Brexit, Boris and the Rise of New Conservatism | Danny Kruger
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- In this interview, John sits down with Conservative MP Danny Kruger at the recent ARC conference to discuss his role in the rise of 'New Conservatism'.
Danny argues that over time the UK government has drifted away from the will of the people, eroding traditional values and focusing on global over domestic interests. This shift has provided an opportunity for conservatives to unite the country, appealing to basic traditional values people still possess, even in typically safe labor seats.
This change was most evident in the Brexit referendum of 2016 and the election of Boris Johnson in 2019. Kruger argues that this 'New Conservatism' is not a matter of changing values, but rather returning to the values that the public never gave up, such as family, national sovereignty, and patriotism.
Danny Kruger has represented the seat of Devizes since his election in 2019. He serves as the co-chair of the New Conservatives group, formed in the wake of the Brexit referendum. This group aims to realign British politics with the views, values, and interests of the British people.
Danny is also the author of several books, including: 'On Fraternity' (2007) and his latest publication, 'Covenant: The New Politics of Home, Neighborhood, and Nation' (2023).
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00:00 Intro
00:14 Introducing Danny Kruger
01:00 New Conservatism
4:40 Labour seats turning conservative
7:00 How elites betray the masses
11:30 Welfare vs Agency
16:25 To reengage the population, we must start listening
18:30 The best argument for Brexit
20:55 What is the cause of growing social dysfunction
20:30 How should migration look?
29:35 A good nationalism?
34:14 Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
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As an outsider, it seems to me that any faith the people had in Boris has been shattered by his performance since his election.
After the Suella Braverman conversation, I’d love to see the guys on Triggernometry talk to Kruger.
As an American veteran, I have a high degree of allegiance and loyalty to my country. But my highest allegiance is to my God. And without that no country in the West has a chance of recovering from the moral morass we are in.
As always - Mr Anderson - great interview
Boris isn’t conservative in the slightest
Why not?
Nigel was the champion of Brexit not Boris.
@@somah1470he is a globalist Marxist is he not? A puppet of the UN/WEF/WHO.
Are people happy to take credit for that fiasco are they?
@@somah1470 More Liberal Democrat in his views.
Thank you, John and Danny, for a very interesting and necessary conversation.
Can't believe they are touching welfare instead of suggesting the audit of parliament spending
Très intéressant et nous redonnant un peu d'espoir. I would like it very much to have an MP with such convictions and vision for in our French Parliament!
Brexit has not been implemented.
Boris Johnson, terrible!
32:24 "We are all immigrants to some degree, most of us.." WRONG most of us are NOT immigrants.
Well, technically true, it just depends how long into the past you want to go - Romans, Vikings, Danes, Angles, Jutes, Normans, Huguenots...
Tell that to the third of northern English who are of Irish descent… that’s a lot of people.
@@alanbrooke144 OK then let in the Somalis you've convinced me.
@@reecemacaulay1690 Ireland was part of this country till 1922 - they are hardly comparable to Afghans and Chinese. Saying everybody is an immigrant is a weak validation for having no borders.
Another great one John.
Great conversation!
Loved this conversation!
"nationalism is a bad name now"
I don't think that is as much the case as it used to be, least not among the people.
I wish we had more intelligent morally strong men like you two. Society would be happier, as they would be working and trying to improve their own lives, through a purpose and children in schools would be educated to achieve something that makes them feel good about themselves.
Arms crossed...
He forgot to say - Let me be clear!
Indeed.
People always want change unless they don't!
A very interesting interview.
Love what this guy's saying but what's up with these British leaders and their hair? It always looks like they just came in from a windstorm and haven't figured out how to use a brush or a comb.
Blood and soil has no place for this turkey in British identity. More of a new David Cameron than a new conservative.
The education system just says marriage however doesn't put in a proper framework if the financial system doesn't work and the relationships decimate, and the medical industry tries to stick diagnosis into the equation. Such a blocker.
Danny Kruger has all the right ideas - the ideas that would connect with the British people. The problem for him and others like him, is that too many in his own party don't share those ideas and therefore the Conservatives have failed to tackle the state with the vigour that people elected it (under Boris) to do. The verdict on that will be delivered later this year and Britain will vote for Starmer and Labour, not because the really want them, but to send a message to the Conserative party that it needs to mean what it says.
"have failed to tackle the state with vigour"?
They use the state to enrich themselves? How else were they going to bail out their massive financial crisis? How else could they privatise ever more of the public realm or stuff out-sourcing companies into every single nook and cranny? He wails here about the welfare state: which party threw so many people on the scrapheap in the 80s? Which party started the trick of shifting the unemployed onto incapacity benefit? Which party continues the use of tax credits to subsidise low wage employers and funnels housing benefit to private landlords?
Everything he complains, his party and the financial interests behind them are responsible for every bit as much as the Left
I think that the turn out for the next general election will be very low. Who actually represents the British people today? None of the above, that's for sure.
it's a shame the board of institutions have moved so far away from the people
while it is true that politics cannot work without the people
so the great problem exists.. it is us or them
caught between a rock and a hard place
Our modern philosophers have moved so much from self discovery and virtue towards social psychology of the 2 party system, philosophy has become unrecognizable..... we've turned towards science, technology , and government to solve the problems within man.....but it never did
@@JayTX. These two touch on it during their talk.. the lack of intelligence amongst the powers that be
the new philosophy is cheap and nasty
and is certainly not the best direction to travel
so one can assume the two are heavily connected
a cheap and nasty future to suit our low intellect regime
@@nioengland after diving into Pessoa, Camus , Schopenhauer, Emil Cioran, Dostoevsky, Emerson, even Bukowski.... Jordan Peterson just doesn't compare...
I feel modern psychology has turned towards medication instead of self mastery , there is no ubermensch there's a pill ...
@@JayTX. ive never heard of any of them.. im guessing they are philosophy.. whereas JP is psychology.. he is always based around the mind and it's workings
So too clinical to expect that flowing creativity
@@nioengland oh check them out my friend many great things and titles from all of them , I do not separate the 2 I believe them the same
Your choice of what appear to be Audio-Technica AT2020s over the standard Shure SM7Bs is a bold one Mr Anderson.
Why, do you think he has anything to do with the technical matters?
22:53 if you can find someone to settle down, it’s great. If you can’t, it’s better to be alone than settle down with irresponsible, unfaithful or hidden psychopath 😌
Changing policy to better support families isn’t enough, we need psychological support rolled out to children affected by parental separation so they don’t pass on their trauma.
It can be done, I am proof it can be done. It’s relatively low cost too.
I've been very impressed by Danny Kruger since he was elected, and the more I learn about him, the more I like. It is very easy to see him as a future Conservative leader, should he and the party survive the next election.
He's never worked outside politics and indeed used to be the Director of Research at the Centre for Policy Studies which is responsible for so much of the hyper-liberalism he critiques here
Great man - Danny Kruger - courageous and actually working for „the people“
At the end of the interview I am left rather underwhelmed. Kruger should have spoken directly to the WHO problem, and made a stronger case for the New Conservatives. It was all rather bland to me. Hey ho, the Tories are always so disappointing!
Great interview! Danny Kruger was so right in saying that loose monetary policy favours the wealthy, driving up asset prices. The original long-term target for inflation established by Chancellor of the Exchequer Norman Lamont of 0% to 2% (i.e., with an implicit point target of 1%) was quickly abandoned. It should have been adhered to. The choice of RPIX as the target inflation indicator, once a housing depreciation component was added in 1995, also heled protect Britain against housing bubbles. Although far from perfect, it crudely approximated a net acquisitions approach to owner-occupied housing. If, as planned, the RPI measure is neutred by making it a copy of the CPIH, the UK will have no monthly inflation measure that incorporates housing prices, great for rich people who want to run up the value of their homes, but not for people looking for starter homes.
Name me a period in which conservatives ever acted in any other way than collectively.
What about two tier families? Some people have parent families and siblings and some have wife and child families there's very clear differences.
Where has he been hiding?
what do the other 15 to 25 million people in the uk do? of the 5m on welfare and the 40 million working population?
I DONT UNDER STAMD ???
I agree with all he’s said but sadly his party has implemented none of what he has suggested - they’ve done the total opposite. He’s in a woke liberal party and doesn’t seem to recognise that. The honourable thing to do at some point is to quit the party and serve as an independent MP.
Countering the madmess rhetorically should have been easy - you assert the need for Rooted Progress, not the unmoored kind & demand Sustainable Diversity in the global context by first protecting & treasuring what is our own.
How rooted does rooted progress need to be rooted.
In your opinion.
The gutless directionless political incompetence in the UK is bewildering. I've never seen it so bad in my lifetime. The enfeeblement of the English is saddening. The naivety and gullibility of the politicians and judicial system is nauseating. The Conservative Party has given us shocking instability and chaos in government and a squandered 80-seat majority. After 45 years in the EU British politicians don't know how to govern this country and the calibre of British politicians is woefully low. The police are openly failing. The NHS is failing more than it ever has. We can't get a GP appointment. We can't get a dentist. An ambulance is no longer guaranteed. So many towns and cities in this country are looking like the third world. Millions of immigrants from the very worst parts of the world bringing unprecedented obscenities to our country. It's so bad it makes you think Remainers are doing to the country on purpose by way of revenge or to force us back into the EU. I was raised a proud Brit, Queen & country, but I hate this place and want to get out. People are leaving in droves and I envy them.
@kevinengland “I am not…” agree, emigrate to Australia. We need people like you.
He’s another one who says the right things but nothing gets implemented majority never gets what we voted for time for a something revolutionary
It is hardly surprising that this is the state of our politics, where the families of the nations the comprise the UK are disregard for this foreign issue. The combination of the long established disproportionate influence of the Jewish population on British institutions with the rapid mass importation of Muslims population to the point where there are more in the UK than the combined native populations of the Northern Irish, Welsh & Cornish; which equates to as many, or pehaps more than the native population of Scots.
Making crimes special, or things crimes that otherwise aren't, because of the group targetted only makes sense for the definitionally vulnerable, which isn't Jews or Muslims.
Meanwhile our security state has deemed anyone who can look around & see the complete lack of respect by the masses of incomers & can read the statistical trends showing natives due to be rendered a minority in a few years as extremists.
The official figures from schools in England show English children will be a minority within 11 years.
By the trends of the official voluntarily provided census, along with official immigration ones, show the English nation will be a minority in their homeland in a mere few decades & all Britons in the Isles some short years after that.
All the influential parliamentary parties continue to support demographic policies that lead inevitably to native minoritisation & the omerta on stating the plain facts still remains unbroken on state & corporate media & most of the alternative with hot air about distractions instead.
When supposed democracy for a people has meant the institutions of power & influence proceed to demographically minoritise native people in their own land with policies that were never proposed let alone received any mandate, it is useless & we are in an existential situation where self defence moral calculus may well apply
As an Australian I agree. Our last census shows that if you have a grandparent born in the country, even one, your are a minority. It begs the question is a democracy still a democracy when the voters have been replaced.
Well I'm pleased to finally understand why malnutrition is now an issue in England.
Success apparently, is now at hand.
@@grannyannie2948”As an Australian I…”29.5 % are born outside Aus. Are you putting it that anyone with at least 1 Grandparent born overseas is not an Australian ?
"Trust in Boris" Ha Ha Ha.
Rosanne Barr called herself a Strict Constitutionalist. I think a Strict Chaterists would be the most appropriate name for you, sir. Or maybe New Chaterists?
But how to you propose to suppose family fidelity when the leader of the “new conservatism” you brought in wasn’t married to his pregnant girlfriend? I forget how many women his children have come from?
Easy he was a figurehead, he brought those people into the fold. People like Kruger rode in on the tailwinds.
27:35 "we need to remove people who have come here illegally but have not passed a law that will enable that". A law must be passed that enables rectification of not enforcing a law? How in heaven's name does an immigration law get passed without a "or else" mandate embedded in the law. Typically here in the USA a statute that forbids an activity will designate the authority for enforcement and decree a mandate to enforce ("the authority shall" ,etc) . While the executive authority may choose to not enforce it, at least the remedy is electing an executive who will (or will appoint a subordinate executive) enforce it (or starving that authority of funding), without having to create more law to see the original law is enforced. The number of males in prison here is abominable but in addition to family destruction it is due to unrealistic cultural expectations of wealth attainment. Young men have always had little patience for working themselves up into middle class affluence and the more impoverished the conditions one is born into the less hope and patience there is for hard steady work and frugal living. Now inflation and the unattainability of home ownership is creating a downward spiral of these failed expectations that were already unrealistic.
Simply put, new conservatives are collectivists. That's their main difference with traditional conservatives. Collectivist conservatism was used to be called nationalism.
What does "collectivism" mean? They are the party of global finance and they preside over the atomised society that 45 years of Thatcherism has produced
Inherent in the individual's role, in the gift of life, is a broad responsibility which is greater than the dictates of every organizational phenomenon of humanity - past, present, and future. There is no escaping this responsibility, although it is shirked at every level. We cannot fully know or understand God as many say we can. Perhaps we may have a glimpse into that mystery if we are fortunate. What we can assume based upon the evidence that is plain to see is that we appear to be the vanguard of sentient life on this planet, and probably further. As such, in each culture throughout history, we have tried to establish our own customs and morals, often excluding those in other gatherings or tribes. Strong feelings and protective parochialism have sparked disagreements, war, and other unpleasantries. The apparently safe way forward in a violent world was to make enemies first and friends later. Out of the resulting sea of protective and self-serving dogma, a byproduct of somewhat universal principles reflecting our common genetic basis emerged predictably. This secularity of distributed particularities manifests as the progress of our best ideas, saddled as it is with every bad idea even to this day, apparently. These ideas are oriented forward, often willing to deny or postpone the present in favor of a better future for our own affiliations, if not for humanity itself. Those of us who have the most are more likely to deny and postpone the boons for those who do not have much. Therein lies a great and continuing struggle. Those devoted to the best in us and for us as befits our status of dominance on the planet are being thwarted by those who are intent upon taking us back to a better time that never existed, except for the few. The reluctance to look to the past for guidance echoes the difficulty of and unwillingness to deal with what brought us to this point. So when a specter from other times or places forces itself into our caravan of hope, we prefer to welcome the unsavory stranger rather than to exclude him. If he does not want to cede the privileges of his own world and join our group with a status that befits his value, we do know that he yet desires the pleasures and benefits of our civilization, which he could have created but did not achieve himself. His appeal is to our humanity; but on his own terms with no allegiance to the same. Our tendency is again and again to hope that he will fit in without our using his favorite and often preferred weapons - raw force and extreme barbarity. Our strength is our weakness; so we must apply it most wisely. The idea of a parallel development of civilizations is appealing to us, but unacceptable to those who have not progressed very far. We must take the lead role.
I was brutally let down but honestly not surprised by Mr Johnson, but the role he took to turn the Ukrainian war into a real bloodbath is what really is vile
Prefer Brexit?
Prefer Putin.
John is absolutely sexy ❤
Some sensible stuff about families, but cutting welfare isn't the solution. The problem with the UK welfare state is that it subsidises the very poor in the most miserable form of poverty, but it offers no financial security to the vast majority of people. We need a national unemployment protection insurance scheme, which would pay out, say, 70% of your average income over the first four months, then 60% for four months, then 50% for four months. In other words, it would give you time to find a new job in your field. That would give some economic security to the lower middle class - those who make more than minimum wage, but don't have massive savings, investments, or sources of passive income to cushion them.
The issue isn't welfare it's jobs. The Tories have NEVER EVER supported Full Employment - even after WW2 some of them were advocating creating pools of unemployment to crush people (c/f Raab Butler): they accepted it through gritted teeth in the 50s, 60s and early 70s and then they reintroduced mass unemployment to destroy the labour movement. And we still have far more people out of work than vacancies because that's the means by which wages are held down. That's why they persist with mass immigration to keep that oversupply of labour going and the upward pressure on house prices.
They are absolute liars when they say anything to the contrary
In Australia, prior to the 1980s, having a wife or children was a tax deduction. This could be a better way of supporting families. Letting them keep more of their own money rather than taxing them to provide welfare.
@@grannyannie2948 "keep more of their own money" - and yet conservatives never say a dickie bird about wages or indeed whether someone has a job or not.
Welfare and pensions are paid for through national insurance schemes
ALL the problems with the welfare state were created by free marketeers when they abandoned Full employment and embraced deindustrialisation / globalisation. They lie about this like the Left lies about the consequences of mass immigration
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rpAll politicians are liars.
My Australian perspective is that Labor nolonger represents workers either. They also love immigration. Today they represent university educated Champaign socialists. The laptop class who do not get negatively affected by immigration. The actual working class are more right leaning. But their politicians also love mass immigration. There is no way of voting out of the situation.
To a point, yes. But I think the biggest problem is a lack of security for working people - a recession comes, and people get laid off. We need a system of spreading the risks. One family, especially if dependent upon one or 1.5 incomes, in inherently vulnerable to economic shocks.What if the breadwinner is sick, or dies, or is made redundant.There needs to be a way of pooling risks to ensure families have economic security. @@grannyannie2948
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@GodsOwnPrototype
Well no they are not actually and they were not derogatory
Blah blah blah all talk.
At least he has provable action from his past before he was an MP and is making positive strides to enact change.
A potential future Conservative leader after Sunak…
elected on the basis of unity, but couldn't unify the party with this mandate - pathetic!
The only true path to unity is freedom, anything else is a shortcut and will backfire in the face of authority. The genius of a free speech society is the ability to assimilate the disaffected. Everyone has a voice, everyone has a place, nobody is unavoidably oppressed, and even if you oppose your current situation you have the power to help shape it for the future.
He’s one of the reasons I won’t vote for the Conservatives any more. I first voted for them in 1979, but they’ve lurched to the right.
UK is in total limbo at the moment, since Brexit manufacturing has reduced, with an ageing population much like Germany and Italy. The problem I see, since the UK left the EU, and since then, on both occasions with Trump and Biden, UK trade negotiators were left with blood running from their eyes, the US trade deal will be much worse than the EU deal, period, including into the future. The US only has 3 free trade agreements in the world, the one with Australia is terrible from an Australian point of view. I feel the only forward now is for the UK to become a servant of the US, which would actually kick-start the economy I think. I just don't see any way forward positively for the UK at the moment, with an economy that is not performing. Trying to form partnerships etc with distant nations etc like the old days is not the answer, it doesn't work, we need to be bonded to the US, the strongest economy in the world, for any hope, other than that, to go back into the EU. I just don't see a way forward for the economy to kick-start with any sort of momentum.
Peter Zeihan has been predicting Britain doing trade deals with the US
😄
Trade deals with individual State in US. works better for UK at the moment ...
Seems like to much money.. ya think ya a God. Its like a Roman day..,??? Keith and Debborha m. In Ohio. U.S.A. me lost?
The people voted for change and you ignored them. Your job is safe and your property portflolio is increasing in value. Not like they have anyone else to vote for. No wonder you look so smug.