I like mine too. I wash the B side while vacuuming the treated A side. Saves some time that way. I also marked one of the finger holes in the record turner puck to keep track of the number of rotations I've made. I just received my bearing upgrade and it looks like it will be a nice improvement. Thanks for making the video.
Good review, to save time when you flip the record and vacuum the side 1 at the same time put solution on the side two and clean it , this way once your side one is vacuumed you can flip it and start side two...
Looks nice. I've been on the fence about getting one of these kinds of devices. Was thinking about the Spin Clean, but, really, for not much more, I like the idea of having a vacuum on the machine. Great demo!! It's on my Christmas Wish List now!!! I'm just hoping Mrs. Claus is willing to indulge me. Otherwise, I'll be waiting until bonus season rolls around (February). I have a local store that sells all the Record Doctor cleaning fluids. They might even carry this RCM. But, given that Audio Advisor is a Michigan company, I don't mind ordering from them. Hey.... other posters here.... Be nice! Even if you aren't impressed with the machine, Mike here just did a nice thing for all of us.
I own 1. I absolutely love this RDV!! I used mine for the first time yesterday and it definitely does the job. My only complaint after its 1st use is the drain hole. It doesn't seem large enough to drain all the water out when you are done. But other than that this little thing works great. By the way I did the bearing upgrade as well. I used this in conjunction with my spin clean and I am completely satisfied with how it sucks all the crap out of the grooves. 2 👍👍s way up!!!
@@nanchanger Sitting at my desk, I actually set up my spin clean on my right side and the RD on my left. I clean my records in the spin clean, making about 10 to 12 spins clockwise then the same counter clockwise the flip the record and do it again. Then pull the record out, shake most of the water off then transfer the record to the RD. Then I spin the record forwards 6 to 8 times each direction then flip the record and repeat the process using a fiber cloth to dry the side that was first dried then flip and repeat. Easy. If the record is super dirty I clean again.
I finally broke down and bought one after hearing from a couple of friends that it works much better than the Spin Clean. I love it. Watched your video to make sure I was doing everything correctly. Thanks!
I ha e a KAB EV-1, which is the same with out the built-in vac. I usually add some cleaning fluid to the pads before my first record and that get rid of the dust line on the first clean,
Thank you for your very informative review! I have ordered one from my local analog guy. I also appreciate the tip pointing us to Jason for a dust cover....like yourself, a very interesting gentleman!
Thanks for the nice comment. As a matter of fact, Jason was at my house today, and showed me his new dust cover design. It's a big improvement on an already nice piece. He's using a heavier nylon and a new construction technique. I have one "on order".
Great video and this helped me with my new RD V. Spinning at the end like you said while it turns off gets rid of the verticle streak! Also I apply cleaner at opposite ends of the record so it gets applied evenly. Quick questions: Are you sure using a paint applicator is safe for the LPs? Also about how often do you need to change the strips on the actual machine? Thanks again!
Mike - thanks for posting this. Do you think the vacuum is powerful enough to remove the embedded dust between the grooves? I have several records that certainly look clean and some that have been cleaned with the Spin Clean and also look clean but they are still noisy from what I am assuming is the embedded dust in the grooves. If this thing will suck that stuff out, I think I'm going to pull the trigger. Thanks again.
It does a good job, IMO, but I've never actually seen the results microscopically. The vacuum is very concentrated, so I think it does help. The main thing is to get the dirt particles suspended, and the vacuum carries all that away. That's the principle anyway!
Mike, I bought this Record Doctor V machine. Spent the whole small bottle of the liquid that came with it. I tried to drain it by unplugging the hole on bottom, but all that came out were a couple of drops. I expected at least 3/4s of the bottle to pour out. What am I doing wrong?
Vlad Grigorian Hmm. You spent the whole bottle in one go? Yeah, I’d expect more to come out. I doubt you’re doing anything wrong! Can you hear the solution sloshing around in the box? As I recall, the hole is quite small, and the bottom is flat (on the inside, too, as far as we know), so you might have to tilt the box around quite a bit to get more to drain out. The one time I drained mine (I tend to do very small batches, so don’t bother draining it), I got a relatively small amount of water out. But as I say in the video, I’m in a very dry climate, so whatever was left I didn’t worry much about. Maybe poke a toothpick up in the hole to ensure it’s clear?
Thanks for the reply. Well, it wasnt one go. I got the machine a week ago. Cleaned at least 50LPs since. There is nothing sloshing inside if Itilit it or shake it. Like it is empty. But it does clean, I removed everything and simply put my finger to the sucking side and it does suck the air in. So, it does work. Still, a bottle went somewhere I have no idea where. I'll try the toothpick, a good idea, may be the clear tube is bent, who knows.
I got one with some birthday money last year and like it a lot. My question to you if you're still keeping track of comments on your video, how often have you changed the cleaning strips which surround the vacuum slot?
Thanks, Mike, for the excellent review. I have just one complaint. I dont get to ask you a single question because all the answers are already in the video and the description. Good job, buddy! I will order my very own unit tomorrow, when my $13 Ebay Bucks certificate become redeemable. Couldn't decide between this and an Okki Nokki, but you convinced me. The fact that you can rotate the platter as slow or fast as you want on the Record Doctor - which you mentioned here - was the deciding factor.
Mike, my unit arrived today. Re-watching your video after reading the manual. I had a question but the answer was in your video. The question was about the lower platter - do I use it with the reflective side up or the rubber side? Your video shows the rubber side up, which make sense because the upper platter goes on top of the record with the rubber side down, so the label wouldn't be damaged. Once again, thanks for the great video and for recommending this model. Your points on advantages of it (the small platter, spinning in either direction, the simplicity of it) were all well made.
Thanks for the great review. I am thinking of getting one but I have a few reservations. 1. with nothing under the record while you are cleaning it, it seems that you wouldn't be able to put very much pressure on the record without flexing it. Or do you only clean in the area where the vacuum slot is so that gives support from the bottom side? 2. While you are cleaning the first side, the unclean side is being rubbed (dry) on the brush surrounding the vacuum slot getting those dirty. Is that a problem? 3. Any residue left? I was thinking after cleaning it might be nice to pour a little distilled water on then vacuuming clean again. 4. Will it do different size records? It seems a 45 wouldn't fully cover the vacuum slot. 5. Can you remove and clean the brushes around the vacuum slot? Thanks!
lemmy999 Glad you enjoyed the review. 1) Apply fluid over the vacuum slot. 2) Yes, that’s a minor concern that I share. Hasn’t been a problem in practice. Consider, though, that other designs have you put the “down side”, possibly just cleaned, onto a felt disc. Trade-offs, I guess. 3) A little, sometimes. I think its reasonable for people to come up with their own practices on such things. 4) I think your theory is correct re 45s. 5) In theory there are replacement “lips” for the vacuum slot. I sometimes just hit it with the little cleaning brush from my old-school Discwasher kit.
Just got my RDV and love it! Two things. I bought the larger hockey puck for the RDVI and well worth the extra $25. Much easier to turn. Second I add a second step of rinsing. Distilled water and a drop of surfactant. This gets rid of the residual cleaner gunk. Thanks.
Fantastic review - thanks Mike. I have a lot of new vinyl which I carbon brush (dry) and put in Nagaoka plastic sleeve liners. Could you use this machine dry to get rid of the paper dust and stuff from the sleeves of the new records before putting them in the Nagaoka ones? I don't really feel a wet clean of a brand new record would be necessary.
I don't see why you couldn't. It would hold the record while you use your brush to lift away the crud. I sometimes use a photography "dust blower" for that kind of thing, but it doesn't get everything off and possibly causes static electricity.
Wrong....I've bought NEW vinyl that was so dirty you could easily see it with your eyes. You should ALWAYS clean a NEW record before playing it. If you don't you can literally embed dirt particles into your groves....with a chance that it will be permanent. Thinking that NEW records come antiseptically clean is a Fool's Paradise.
I was just showing someone this video so they could see what I have. I bought one years ago when I decided a dime per record I owned was worth the investment. Works great, I think the guy below talking about rinsing is over thinking it or whatever, I'm not worried about the residue whatever that may be when I'm making a dirty ass Kinks record at least listenable.
Mike, Great review. I was just wondering if there is any worries about putting the dirty side down first and exposing the vacuum felt pieces to whatever is on the lp. I would hate to have that grime, mold, etc. put back onto a side that I just scrubbed.
The record actually sits a bit above the vacuum lips, so if you don't press down too hard, you're probably fine. When you turn on the vacuum, that pulls the record down onto the lips. I suppose you can also brush off the felt after each side (which I generally do). I haven't noticed any issue from the design, but I don't obsess too much, to be honest.
Mike,Thanks for sharing this video I've been interested in one of these machines for a very long time & with over 3,000 Lp's it might just work for me. One thing I noticed is that the plate you use to spin the record on does not cover the whole label? Not that it will be a big problem ( I just don't want to see the label getting wet that's all) & the bearing you're saying I should invest in the aftermarket one? Yep I agree they should have made that part a bit better!!! The only other thing that's kind of stopping me is the Noise!!! (I live in a co-op with paper thin walls) so I'll have to do it on the weekend or when I get home.. Other then that I think I might get one so Thanks again !!
You're kind of in control of whether the label gets wet. It hasn't been a problem for me. The sound, yes, is very loud. But it's no worse than a vacuum cleaner. It's just that it's closer to you than a vacuum :-).
This seems pretty cool and I'd love to buy one, but I'm curious as to why you would wash records in the sink (mentioned at 5:27). Do you use distilled water? If tap water I'd imagine the copper, magnesium, and whatever other minerals that are present in tap water would damage the record over time and leave residue in the grooves.
Eric People who can't afford, or don't want to spend money on, vacuum machines, might choose to use the sink. Yes, I used distilled water for the rinse. Once washed, I wouldn't expect a well-cared for record to need washing again for a long time. I have a video on the process, if you want to look it up.
I have been waffling on purchasing one of these for some time, and yours is the first video I have viewed of it in action. I can live with standard equipment for a bit, but would most likely upgrade as you have. And I would, of course, get a cover from your buddy because, you know! Anyway, I do have a question; when you start the cleaning process and place an uncleaned/dirty record on the machine, does the fact that the felt around the vacuum slot will be in contact WITH a dirty/uncleaned side as the other side gets a bath 'n scrub, a cause for concern? At first glance, it seems counterproductive; almost like toweling off BEFORE you take a shower.
Thanks for your comment. Yes your concern is a minor concern of mine. I don't worry too much since my records start out pretty clean. If you have a really grungy one, you might want to sink-wash it first, and then use the record cleaner on subsequent cleanings (I have a video on that, too somewhere here on my channel). I'm sure Jason would appreciate the business. He's pretty much perfected the covers at this point.
I watched a bunch of videos & scrolled through the forums on how to make a DIY record cleaning machine & just made my own for basically nothing. The only parts that cost any money was fluid because I prefer a certain fluid. & a mofi brush ($20)...oh & of course new mofi inner sleeves were also $20 for a pack of 50. Very important to put newly cleaned records in New inner sleeves. But I already had an old broken turntable, a mini shop vac, so didn't need to spend any money there. I made an attachment for the shop vac that fits over the spindle & sucks up the dirty solution. It works great!
I also prefer a solution that doesn't contain alcohol. I like to let the solution soak for a few minutes at least. Even on new records, but especially on older or dirtier records. It helps loosen up some of the crud. & a solution with alcohol dries way too quickly. & yes I even clean brand new records.
Oh & another thing. Before I apply any fluid or use the mofi brush, I have an extra old carbon fiber brush I use for the cleaning process only, & use it to try to get any loose crud off before doing the wet clean process. (Not the same carbon fiber brush I use on a record before each play, but a different one specifically for this)
Very good record cleaner. I just purchased one. As the reviewer states, the "brush".. and I really do hate to call it that... is complete rubbish. I ended up getting the type of brush that the reviewer used and it works like an absolute champ. I have a large number of records that I picked up for a dollar that I could not clean to a listenable state with my old brush cleaner and the record doctor dropped the noise floor down to almost zero. VERY well worth the investment if you are even remotely serious about collecting vinyl. No need to spend 600 plus on a cleaning machine when 200 will get you anywhere you need to go. Spend the extra 400 on vinyl!
Just want to say thank you for this excellent review. I got back into Vinyl (big time!) I don't think my wife is to happy about it LOL) Was thinking about the Spin Clean and then saw your video on this machine and it's within my budget!! I know what I'm getting for my Birthday thanks!
Hey Mike, I just received a Record Doctor V as a gift, and all the records I clean sound amazing. Unfortunately, there is a smudgy residue left on the record, as if it is wet. Am I doing something wrong? (Also, thanks for uploading the video. It helped a lot.)
Hmm, that definitely doesn't sound right. I doubt you're doing anything wrong. However, I do still (carefully) wave the record around a bit to ensure that it is completely dry. Maybe try that?
the dust line is caused by the felt on the machine collecting the dust from that side of the record while you are spinning/washing the other side. The reason you only see it on that one side is when you are washing the other side, the side that is touching the machine is already clean. Hope that makes sense.
I just bought the Record Doctor VI and I am wondering if I also need to change the bearing on the RD VI or only applies to the Record Doctor V ? Please advise, any feedback from any that knows, will be appreciated thanks!
Question: The handle (for lack of a better word) that you use to hand-rotate the record, does that screw on over the record? How does it grip the record? Is it rubber on the bottom and just by sheer weight maybe the record turns without slipping? I have a do-it-yourself setup and am looking for a way to conveniently add some sort of hand crank for turning the record while brushing and vacuuming, but if this thing really works that well I might go for it. The one on this unit looks like it has finger holes; can you simply put your finger in one of the holes and spin it that way or do you need to apply some pressure while doing it?
Arthur Robillard It’s just a wooden puck with a rubber circle on the bottom of it. I think the “idea” is you’d use a finger, but it really makes more sense to just put light pressure on it with multiple fingers. You’re squeezing the record between the small “turntable” of the cleaner and the puck. Very simple minimalist design. Best of luck.
the Velvets are safe, not scratch the records? Im thinking buy the KAB EV-1 (I like the idea of NO motor) $189 shipped, plastic (not wood, I don't like wood mixed with water stuff) and weight a lot less!
Hi Mike, just got a record doctor V and and the new bearing you mentioned in the video. Was wondering if the new player that they sent you with the new bearing had an included O ring? I see in the video when you put the platter back on you also put on an O ring to secure it. The following platter that came with the record doctor v didn't have an O ring & neither did the new platter that came with the new bearing.
Matt Weigand Hehe, no, I never got around to it. I think it's something like 90% distilled water, 10% high-purity isopropyl alcohol, and a few drops of LFN (surfactant for film development) in a small-to-medium size bottle. I don't make large quantities of it. Some people get all bent out of shape over the alcohol, but it helps with evaporation, and I haven't run into any issues. YMMV.
Does anyone know if the cleaning formula is safe for shellac 78s? I think I heard somewhere that the Record Doctor formula doesn't use alcohol, which is bad for shellac.
200.00 seems to be quite a lot for this machine. It is just a vacuum and as you say the bearing is not great, i believe you replaced it. You said the person at the company said that was not a problem, well for that much money I would think it is... Also I watched some videos about cleaning records and they say never put the cleaner directly on your albums, what is your opinion about that? I have a little over a thousand albums I want to keep clean. This machine does not impress me that much. Are there other systems out there that are better than this one? Thanks, Troy
If you think $200 is a lot for a RCM you haven't done much shopping! This is the cheapest one I know of, aside from maybe finding it used. All RCMs are overpriced if you're a reductionist (for example, calling it "just a vacuum"). Yes, definitely the original bearing is a joke. I replaced it with a larger one from a different company for less than $20. And yes, I was disappointed in the "engineering" that went into that one, as well. The latter is the one where the seller said "not a problem". I disagree with him in principle (and physics :-)). In use though, it is definitely better than the original bearing. Keep in mind, all you really need to get done is to rotate the record with a reasonable amount of ease. Either bearing approximates that. In the end, it's a pretty well put-together machine that does what it is designed to do: clean records efficiently and effectively (in my experience). The cost is reasonable, if you consider the competition. Yes, you could build your own or cobble together some process by which to get the same effect, but if you value your time, I'd call it a false economy. That said, I'm not a shill for this company. There may well be better ways to approach record cleaning, but this one works for me. Regarding other videos on cleaning. Opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one (including me). The internet just makes it worse. People tend to get waaaaaay too anal and weird about record cleaning, IMO.
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to get one soon. Can you tell me exactly which bearing did you buy? An URL to the actual bearing would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Mike, any idea of the wattage for the motor? I need to buy a compatible power converter 110~220v for Asia and the wattage info cannot be found anywhere on the unit/plug, the box, the manual or any websites..
Sounds like buying a Rega Turntable with all the upgrades that are recommended....nice video though...might have to give a shot although my Spinclean seems like less work and same results...
Can you tell me where you bought that microfiber brush? What store did you buy it from and what exactly was it called? Can't seem to locate one. Thank you!
Was it called a paint "applicator" brush or...? Just want to know what type of brush it is. Also do you think I could use the fluid that came with the Spinclean?
Spike Gruber I don’t remember what they called it, but yes, it is a paint applicator brush. I suspect the Spinclean fluid will be just fine. Good luck!
The site is kind of crappy. Click the "record cleaners" link in the top menu. Then, keep scrolling down. Eventually you'll se an image of the bearing -- it just looks like two concentric circles. The buy buttons are on the right.
Mike Thomas Mike - thanks for the video. I have one on order and look forward to using it. In regards to the bearing - is it the "all models" bearing or the custom R.D.V bearing? Thanks.
Mike That was a great no nonsense review. Ive been looking at the VPI 16.5 but $549.00-$650.00 for the unit is tough for even me to swallow! I cant see spended almost another $400.00 for something that "turns" the record for you. I'll be subscribing to your channel. I was wondering how often you need to replace the vacum brush that contacts the record amd how much it is and how you replace it?
Glad you found my review. I still like this machine. Regarding the vacuum brush, that's a very good question, and I don't know the answer for certain. I feel that I've read about people replacing the brush with aftermarket material, but I could be remembering wrong. Maybe that's the downfall of this machine. I'll probably never wear mine out -- I just don't have (or buy) enough vinyl to really give this thing a workout.
Mike Thomas Thanks Mike. I just picked up a used VPI 16.5 about 4 weeks ago for $345.00. Love it. I always gravitated towards the VPI, but new ones were out of my price range. So the Record Doctor V was my 2nd choice. Thanks for the link though.
good! Im thinking buy one, but!!! wait you STILL need RINSE! that record, using distilled water, is like you use shampoo in your hair but don't rinse with water, after liquids use water.
hey mike ..good review again..but i was thinking about the cleaner ..but after the video i will hold out on buying one..its a good product ..i don't have thousands of records.. so i don't think its for me right now.. and by the way ..i really like washing my used records in the sink ..the old fashion way.. as my collection grows i will have this on my radar ..
ki flex Very correct thinking. I have more than a thousand records and the sink is more than good enough. A record only needs to be cleaned once in its life as long as it is handled properly.
Nice review Mike! Actually, the best and most thorough review that I've seen of the Record Doctor V. I was looking into the Nitty Gritty 1, but this looks equally as good and significantly cheaper. Thanks! George in Florida
Glad you liked the review. I believe the RDV is just a stripped-down version of the NG1. That's fine by me -- I won't be displaying it as furniture :-).
Great review. I just ordered mine . Can you do me a favor and give me the specs of the bearing I need from Amazon? I prefer Amazon because I have the store card and can have it delivered quickly !!!!! Thanks again.
Gary Falzone Hmm. Specs? I think any flat needle bearing about the size of a quarter or half-dollar would do it. Sorry I can't be more specific -- I don't have a micrometer ;-)
Oh, you're testing my memory. Haven't mixed it in a while. Probably something like 90% distilled water, 10% iso alcohol, and a few drops of film wetting agent (for photographic film).
@@mike.thomas Throw in some propylene glycol (some use ethylene glycol) and you have the touted old discwasher formula. The professor at Mizzou who invented the formula did a good job all these many decades ago..lol!
i am hoping that they have improved that machine a lot. I had one fail by having the impeller blades break off inside. i thought, ok, i will just open the bottom. turned it over and found the bottom to be hot glued shut. alrighty then, i have to bash it in and i will just get another piece of fiberboard and glue it in when i am done. so i break into it and this is when i find the impeller blades all broken of. well, i will get an allen wrench or screwdriver and remove the collet that holds the blades and order a new blade part. no such luck, it was a press fit. then i will just remove the motor. nope, it was hot glued, just like the fiberboard bottom. i know, i will call the company and they will have an economical solution. well, NO, they want $100 plus shipping. the only way i can solve this is to glue another bottom in and then drill a hole big enough to hook up a small shop vac to it. so there it sits. overall, wasted money. i bought a SpinClean instead and after cleaning the record in the bath, rinse with my reverse osmosis spigot and then dry with a microfiber cloth, and dry in a rack. actually, in lieu of a rack, i bought several clear plastic easels (the kind yWalmartt display a plate wieth). they were from Walmart called Mainstays 8 inck Tabletop Easel. the spinclean works way better than you would expect and it is much cheaper than ANY ready made vacuuming machine such as rec dr or even the KAB device that takes a vac like i was planning. i really do hate being the bearer of bad news but the rec dr can be a waste of money. ...hifitommy
Thomas Roy Wow, that sucks. Hopefully that's an unusual occurrence, rather than the rule. But it doesn't matter for you -- a bad experience over all. The Spin Clean seems like a good solution. I sink-washed my records before getting the RDV. Worked pretty well, and the Spin Clean is possibly better.
hey mike, when i washed in the sink, i used one of those red directional velvet brushes for lint that you can get for a buck at the dollar stores, a droplet of dawn and scrubbed lightly on both sides, rinsed (a lot with a sink sprayer) and dried with paper towels (not really bad for the records). the spin clean is better but if i get one with a lot of dirt, i sink wash it first. one can get an ultrasonic cleaner for about $600 albeit without the drying feature which would be another $120. i enjoy your YTs , what number are you up to now?
When I was sink washing I used the same microfiber brush-y thing I use now with the RDV. I believe I used a microfiber towel to dry. I think I actually did a video about it (speaking of my video count). Paper towels probably don't do any damage, but they do have glue in them that might leave a residue, but probably nothing atrocious. People get a little weird about records :-). I'm over 350 videos, if you count ALL of them. Probably over 200 are somewhat worthwhile to somebody, somewhere :-). Thanks for watching!
well, i did move to the microfiber cloths. which do you use? the diaper cloth ones that came with my spinclean are not that good, i actually preferred paper towels over those. thanks for putting good subjects on your audio reviews. it sounds like we would get along fine in person. where do you live? ...hifitommy
I agree the design seems good but vacuuming is not necessary. I have cleaned several hundred records without vacuuming with excellent results. What I don't understand is why so many people using a device like this don't rinse the records. If this device and others like it don't have directions that recommend rinsing the records it only further illustrates the fact vacuuming is not necessary for the manufacturer doesn't even understand how to correctly clean records.
Interesting point. You could be right. However, do you feel the rinsing is required in order to get rid of whatever additives the washing fluid has in it, or to carry the dirt away? If it's the former, I think most fluids are probably 95% or greater distilled water and the vacuum pulls most of that away. In my dry climate the record is mostly dry when I pull it off the machine. If it's the latter, that's what the vacuum is for -- to ensure the gunk that you dislodged doesn't just settle back down. Anyway, my method before this was to sink wash. It might have been more effective at actually removing stuff because it's a "bath", and much more fluid is used, but then the records either had to be towel dried (what I did), which always kind of bothered me, or purely air-dried, which left the chance of remaining gunk re-settling or dust falling onto the records as they sat there. And if you don't use distilled water on both sides you run the risk of introducing mineral deposits to the record surface. So, basically I think of this RCM as a labor-saving device. It's probably as good as sink washing, but 100x more convenient. You should do a video on your technique. It would be interesting. Be warned, though, you'll probably get critiques, too -- everyone's an expert on RUclips ;-).
Mike Thomas Actually I did make a video several months ago demonstrating how to use a specific product. The product I use requires a rinse otherwise as you pointed out residue from the cleaner will remain on the surface and be audible. Regardless of what is used some residue from the cleaner will remain if not properly rinsed. How much remains depends on the concentration of the solution used and as you also pointed out most cleaning solutions are likely very high in water content. I don't use Loyd Walkers product and don't plan on but he points out in a video just drying your hair after washing isn't an effective way of cleaning. Using a cleaner high in water and sticking your head into a vacuum tube may suck most of the debris off your hair making it appear clean it will still be dirty.
This is an endless debate and without a controlled study in a lab with microscopic examination, ya'll are just assuming your facts to be true and/or utilizing confabulation. Usually, the more money you pay for a product, the better you feel it does. And in many cases, a low priced product has to mean an 'inferior' product. We used to call that 'stepping over dollars to pick up pennies'. I bought this unit (never used it yet) that sets your records up vertically....then you use a special nozzle attached to your sink faucet or hose, cleaning the record in a specified pattern. Finish by using a liquid 'preservative' type substance. I can't say one way or another about this process since I haven't used it.....other than my vote would be outside with better pressure than the sink faucet. Again, without science backing me up, any claims would be subjective. There is KNOWN, however, that there are substances that can harm vinyl......so at least do the research on that.
But....the proof is in the pudding. You say it rocks, and I believe you. Show us! Play a record you've cleaned and make a video so we can hear how good it sounds!
I sold mine but I'm buying another one soon. I loved it but I needed money damn sucks to . I wish someone buy me one for my birthday I never get shit anymore .
thanks Mike, yes I saw the plug in pics but looks too little, don't have any hose or something, see the pic: www.decibelhifi.com.au/assets/alt_3/RDV.jpg looks like a hole in a coconut! I don't figure out how the water can pull out from there with a hose or something.
It was the great video until you turn it on. That record machine vacuum is ear piercing. I was sold on it until it was turned on. otherwise thank you for the wonderful video.
microfiber cloths and your microfibre paint brush leave material fibres on the record. You should be using a carbon fibre brush to work in the cleaning fluid. You should never touch your records with tap water !!!!! And you wonder why there is dust/microscopic material filaments on your record after cleaning that you remove with your carbon brush. No carbon brush is going to remove the calcium and other deposits left from the tap water.. Your records probably are in worse condition after you have cleaned them with your method.
So: It requires, a cover, which is not available. The bearing on the floppy little spindle is a piece of junk, so you replaced that. The brush is a piece of junk, so you bought a little paint applicator from Home Depot. The small bottle of cleaning fluid is quickly used up and way overpriced. And the RD V is terribly noisy. And you say we’d be nuts not to buy this? For a third of the price and no great effort I can build something myself that will do the same job without all of these deficiencies. The recipe for making your own cleaning fluid in large quantities is readily available, too.
Cover not required. I wanted one. Got it for free from a friend. Yes, the supplied bearing sucks, but it works OK. Replacement is dirt cheap, but not required. Similar with the brush. I do make my own cleaning fluid, though perhaps I didn't mention it or wasn't using it at the time. All vacuum record cleaners are noisy. You'd only be nuts not to consider it if you are *actually interested in buying a record cleaner*. Apparently you aren't that interested, or perhaps you haven't comparison shopped. Record cleaners are definitely crazy expensive, and this one is dirt cheap by comparison. You should do a video of the one you build. That would be cool.
Waste of Money. Clean my records in the sink and they sound Perfect. As long as I clean With soft microfiber spunge and put them in clean inners they only need one clean ever as long as I hold them by the sides. Stay away from this overpriced machine and use the sink wih great results, every time.
aquavitvibes72 Yeah, I've used the sink, too. I even have a video about it. This is quicker and neater, IMO. Other folks can decide for themselves whether it's a waste of money.
What a pile of rubbish you go on about not having a platter and that is better but you're forgetting that the Velvet lips are touching the dirty record surface and is transferred onto the clean surface vacuum pump idea is not the best way to dry it just let it dry naturally you're introducing more dirt from the air and causes of static charge. Take the Velvet lips off might help and a stopper on the end. Don't use tap water distilled or deionized only
I like mine too. I wash the B side while vacuuming the treated A side. Saves some time that way. I also marked one of the finger holes in the record turner puck to keep track of the number of rotations I've made. I just received my bearing upgrade and it looks like it will be a nice improvement. Thanks for making the video.
Good review, to save time when you flip the record and vacuum the side 1 at the same time put solution on the side two and clean it , this way once your side one is vacuumed you can flip it and start side two...
Nice idea!
Looks nice. I've been on the fence about getting one of these kinds of devices. Was thinking about the Spin Clean, but, really, for not much more, I like the idea of having a vacuum on the machine. Great demo!!
It's on my Christmas Wish List now!!! I'm just hoping Mrs. Claus is willing to indulge me. Otherwise, I'll be waiting until bonus season rolls around (February).
I have a local store that sells all the Record Doctor cleaning fluids. They might even carry this RCM. But, given that Audio Advisor is a Michigan company, I don't mind ordering from them.
Hey.... other posters here.... Be nice! Even if you aren't impressed with the machine, Mike here just did a nice thing for all of us.
I own 1. I absolutely love this RDV!! I used mine for the first time yesterday and it definitely does the job. My only complaint after its 1st use is the drain hole. It doesn't seem large enough to drain all the water out when you are done. But other than that this little thing works great. By the way I did the bearing upgrade as well. I used this in conjunction with my spin clean and I am completely satisfied with how it sucks all the crap out of the grooves. 2 👍👍s way up!!!
aaron rojas Glad you like the RDV. I like your avatar. Takes me back to my college days in the 80s. :-)
How do you use it with the SC?
@@nanchanger I clean the record on the spin clean then transfer the wet record over to the RD.
@@aaronrojas5399 so you wet it with cleaner only once?
@@nanchanger
Sitting at my desk, I actually set up my spin clean on my right side and the RD on my left. I clean my records in the spin clean, making about 10 to 12 spins clockwise then the same counter clockwise the flip the record and do it again. Then pull the record out, shake most of the water off then transfer the record to the RD. Then I spin the record forwards 6 to 8 times each direction then flip the record and repeat the process using a fiber cloth to dry the side that was first dried then flip and repeat. Easy. If the record is super dirty I clean again.
I finally broke down and bought one after hearing from a couple of friends that it works much better than the Spin Clean. I love it. Watched your video to make sure I was doing everything correctly. Thanks!
Ellen Scalf Glad you dig it. Jason still makes the covers if you’re interested (no pressure, of course).
Ellen Scalf awesome! Im thinking of getting 1 too. Has it significanlty reduced vinyl noise during playback for your records? Thanks
This seems like it would be a great 2nd step after using a SpinClean. Wash with the spin clean and use the Record Doctor V to vacuum dry the record.
That’s a pretty good idea. Would probably really do the trick!
I ha e a KAB EV-1, which is the same with out the built-in vac. I usually add some cleaning fluid to the pads before my first record and that get rid of the dust line on the first clean,
Ordered the record doctor yesterday and the roller bearing from KAB. I’m gonna use it in conjunction with my spin clean. Thanks for the video.
Great! I hope it works well for you.
Thank you for your very informative review! I have ordered one from my local analog guy. I also appreciate the tip pointing us to Jason for a dust cover....like yourself, a very interesting gentleman!
Thanks for the nice comment. As a matter of fact, Jason was at my house today, and showed me his new dust cover design. It's a big improvement on an already nice piece. He's using a heavier nylon and a new construction technique. I have one "on order".
Great video and this helped me with my new RD V. Spinning at the end like you said while it turns off gets rid of the verticle streak! Also I apply cleaner at opposite ends of the record so it gets applied evenly.
Quick questions: Are you sure using a paint applicator is safe for the LPs? Also about how often do you need to change the strips on the actual machine? Thanks again!
Mike - thanks for posting this. Do you think the vacuum is powerful enough to remove the embedded dust between the grooves? I have several records that certainly look clean and some that have been cleaned with the Spin Clean and also look clean but they are still noisy from what I am assuming is the embedded dust in the grooves. If this thing will suck that stuff out, I think I'm going to pull the trigger. Thanks again.
It does a good job, IMO, but I've never actually seen the results microscopically. The vacuum is very concentrated, so I think it does help. The main thing is to get the dirt particles suspended, and the vacuum carries all that away. That's the principle anyway!
Thanks so much for this review. It was to the point and extremely helpful in convincing me to order one. Awesome job!
Glad it was useful to you. Thanks for the comment!
Mike, I bought this Record Doctor V machine. Spent the whole small bottle of the liquid that came with it. I tried to drain it by unplugging the hole on bottom, but all that came out were a couple of drops. I expected at least 3/4s of the bottle to pour out. What am I doing wrong?
Vlad Grigorian Hmm. You spent the whole bottle in one go? Yeah, I’d expect more to come out. I doubt you’re doing anything wrong! Can you hear the solution sloshing around in the box? As I recall, the hole is quite small, and the bottom is flat (on the inside, too, as far as we know), so you might have to tilt the box around quite a bit to get more to drain out.
The one time I drained mine (I tend to do very small batches, so don’t bother draining it), I got a relatively small amount of water out. But as I say in the video, I’m in a very dry climate, so whatever was left I didn’t worry much about.
Maybe poke a toothpick up in the hole to ensure it’s clear?
Thanks for the reply. Well, it wasnt one go. I got the machine a week ago. Cleaned at least 50LPs since. There is nothing sloshing inside if Itilit it or shake it. Like it is empty. But it does clean, I removed everything and simply put my finger to the sucking side and it does suck the air in. So, it does work. Still, a bottle went somewhere I have no idea where. I'll try the toothpick, a good idea, may be the clear tube is bent, who knows.
Vlad Grigorian Good luck. Aside from this are you happy with its performance?
Absolutely, it is a solid buy, especially for the little money it cost. Thanks
I got one with some birthday money last year and like it a lot. My question to you if you're still keeping track of comments on your video, how often have you changed the cleaning strips which surround the vacuum slot?
Thanks, Mike, for the excellent review. I have just one complaint. I dont get to ask you a single question because all the answers are already in the video and the description. Good job, buddy!
I will order my very own unit tomorrow, when my $13 Ebay Bucks certificate become redeemable. Couldn't decide between this and an Okki Nokki, but you convinced me. The fact that you can rotate the platter as slow or fast as you want on the Record Doctor - which you mentioned here - was the deciding factor.
Vlad Grigorian I hope you enjoy it!
Mike, my unit arrived today. Re-watching your video after reading the manual. I had a question but the answer was in your video. The question was about the lower platter - do I use it with the reflective side up or the rubber side? Your video shows the rubber side up, which make sense because the upper platter goes on top of the record with the rubber side down, so the label wouldn't be damaged. Once again, thanks for the great video and for recommending this model. Your points on advantages of it (the small platter, spinning in either direction, the simplicity of it) were all well made.
Thanks for the great review. I am thinking of getting one but I have a few reservations.
1. with nothing under the record while you are cleaning it, it seems that you wouldn't be able to put very much pressure on the record without flexing it. Or do you only clean in the area where the vacuum slot is so that gives support from the bottom side?
2. While you are cleaning the first side, the unclean side is being rubbed (dry) on the brush surrounding the vacuum slot getting those dirty. Is that a problem?
3. Any residue left? I was thinking after cleaning it might be nice to pour a little distilled water on then vacuuming clean again.
4. Will it do different size records? It seems a 45 wouldn't fully cover the vacuum slot.
5. Can you remove and clean the brushes around the vacuum slot?
Thanks!
lemmy999 Glad you enjoyed the review. 1) Apply fluid over the vacuum slot. 2) Yes, that’s a minor concern that I share. Hasn’t been a problem in practice. Consider, though, that other designs have you put the “down side”, possibly just cleaned, onto a felt disc. Trade-offs, I guess. 3) A little, sometimes. I think its reasonable for people to come up with their own practices on such things. 4) I think your theory is correct re 45s. 5) In theory there are replacement “lips” for the vacuum slot. I sometimes just hit it with the little cleaning brush from my old-school Discwasher kit.
@@mike.thomas Thanks!
Just got my RDV and love it! Two things. I bought the larger hockey puck for the RDVI and well worth the extra $25. Much easier to turn. Second I add a second step of rinsing. Distilled water and a drop of surfactant. This gets rid of the residual cleaner gunk. Thanks.
Where did you find a larger puck for the RDV? I've seen replacements but the larger RDVI pucks are apparently not compatible with the RDV.
Can you clean 45s with this too?
Fantastic review - thanks Mike. I have a lot of new vinyl which I carbon brush (dry) and put in Nagaoka plastic sleeve liners. Could you use this machine dry to get rid of the paper dust and stuff from the sleeves of the new records before putting them in the Nagaoka ones? I don't really feel a wet clean of a brand new record would be necessary.
I don't see why you couldn't. It would hold the record while you use your brush to lift away the crud. I sometimes use a photography "dust blower" for that kind of thing, but it doesn't get everything off and possibly causes static electricity.
Wrong....I've bought NEW vinyl that was so dirty you could easily see it with your eyes. You should ALWAYS clean a NEW record before playing it. If you don't you can literally embed dirt particles into your groves....with a chance that it will be permanent. Thinking that NEW records come antiseptically clean is a Fool's Paradise.
I was just showing someone this video so they could see what I have. I bought one years ago when I decided a dime per record I owned was worth the investment. Works great, I think the guy below talking about rinsing is over thinking it or whatever, I'm not worried about the residue whatever that may be when I'm making a dirty ass Kinks record at least listenable.
Mike,
Great review. I was just wondering if there is any worries about putting the dirty side down first and exposing the vacuum felt pieces to whatever is on the lp. I would hate to have that grime, mold, etc. put back onto a side that I just scrubbed.
The record actually sits a bit above the vacuum lips, so if you don't press down too hard, you're probably fine. When you turn on the vacuum, that pulls the record down onto the lips. I suppose you can also brush off the felt after each side (which I generally do). I haven't noticed any issue from the design, but I don't obsess too much, to be honest.
@@45rockinwax nature
I purchased one. You're correct, it rocks!
Mike,Thanks for sharing this video I've been interested in one of these machines for a very long time & with over 3,000 Lp's it might just work for me. One thing I noticed is that the plate you use to spin the record on does not cover the whole label? Not that it will be a big problem ( I just don't want to see the label getting wet that's all) & the bearing you're saying I should invest in the aftermarket one? Yep I agree they should have made that part a bit better!!!
The only other thing that's kind of stopping me is the Noise!!! (I live in a co-op with paper thin walls) so I'll have to do it on the weekend or when I get home.. Other then that I think I might get one so Thanks again !!
You're kind of in control of whether the label gets wet. It hasn't been a problem for me. The sound, yes, is very loud. But it's no worse than a vacuum cleaner. It's just that it's closer to you than a vacuum :-).
Thanks, I'm still thinking!!
This seems pretty cool and I'd love to buy one, but I'm curious as to why you would wash records in the sink (mentioned at 5:27). Do you use distilled water? If tap water I'd imagine the copper, magnesium, and whatever other minerals that are present in tap water would damage the record over time and leave residue in the grooves.
Eric People who can't afford, or don't want to spend money on, vacuum machines, might choose to use the sink. Yes, I used distilled water for the rinse. Once washed, I wouldn't expect a well-cared for record to need washing again for a long time. I have a video on the process, if you want to look it up.
I have been waffling on purchasing one of these for some time, and yours is the first video I have viewed of it in action. I can live with standard equipment for a bit, but would most likely upgrade as you have. And I would, of course, get a cover from your buddy because, you know!
Anyway, I do have a question; when you start the cleaning process and place an uncleaned/dirty record on the machine, does the fact that the felt around the vacuum slot will be in contact WITH a dirty/uncleaned side as the other side gets a bath 'n scrub, a cause for concern? At first glance, it seems counterproductive; almost like toweling off BEFORE you take a shower.
Thanks for your comment. Yes your concern is a minor concern of mine. I don't worry too much since my records start out pretty clean. If you have a really grungy one, you might want to sink-wash it first, and then use the record cleaner on subsequent cleanings (I have a video on that, too somewhere here on my channel).
I'm sure Jason would appreciate the business. He's pretty much perfected the covers at this point.
I watched a bunch of videos & scrolled through the forums on how to make a DIY record cleaning machine & just made my own for basically nothing. The only parts that cost any money was fluid because I prefer a certain fluid. & a mofi brush ($20)...oh & of course new mofi inner sleeves were also $20 for a pack of 50. Very important to put newly cleaned records in New inner sleeves. But I already had an old broken turntable, a mini shop vac, so didn't need to spend any money there. I made an attachment for the shop vac that fits over the spindle & sucks up the dirty solution. It works great!
I also prefer a solution that doesn't contain alcohol. I like to let the solution soak for a few minutes at least. Even on new records, but especially on older or dirtier records. It helps loosen up some of the crud. & a solution with alcohol dries way too quickly. & yes I even clean brand new records.
Oh & another thing. Before I apply any fluid or use the mofi brush, I have an extra old carbon fiber brush I use for the cleaning process only, & use it to try to get any loose crud off before doing the wet clean process. (Not the same carbon fiber brush I use on a record before each play, but a different one specifically for this)
Very good record cleaner. I just purchased one. As the reviewer states, the "brush".. and I really do hate to call it that... is complete rubbish. I ended up getting the type of brush that the reviewer used and it works like an absolute champ.
I have a large number of records that I picked up for a dollar that I could not clean to a listenable state with my old brush cleaner and the record doctor dropped the noise floor down to almost zero.
VERY well worth the investment if you are even remotely serious about collecting vinyl. No need to spend 600 plus on a cleaning machine when 200 will get you anywhere you need to go. Spend the extra 400 on vinyl!
Thanks very much for your thoughts. I'm glad the machine is working well for you.
Got a link to the troupe of brush to buy?
Just want to say thank you for this excellent review. I got back into Vinyl (big time!) I don't think my wife is to happy about it LOL) Was thinking about the Spin Clean and then saw your video on this machine and it's within my budget!! I know what I'm getting for my Birthday thanks!
+Ed Young Cool. I think it's a better option than the Spin Clean, and reasonably affordable.
Hey Mike, I just received a Record Doctor V as a gift, and all the records I clean sound amazing. Unfortunately, there is a smudgy residue left on the record, as if it is wet. Am I doing something wrong? (Also, thanks for uploading the video. It helped a lot.)
Hmm, that definitely doesn't sound right. I doubt you're doing anything wrong. However, I do still (carefully) wave the record around a bit to ensure that it is completely dry. Maybe try that?
Thanks, I'll try that.
Mike, I just got mine and I also get the hard line on the first side! Did you ever figure out what is causing this?
No, just worked around it.
the dust line is caused by the felt on the machine collecting the dust from that side of the record while you are spinning/washing the other side. The reason you only see it on that one side is when you are washing the other side, the side that is touching the machine is already clean. Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for such a thorough review and demonstration!
Thanks for your comment!
I just bought the Record Doctor VI and I am wondering if I also need to change the bearing on the RD VI or only applies to the Record Doctor V ? Please advise, any feedback from any that knows, will be appreciated thanks!
Thanks for the great review - just put in an order for one.
Question: The handle (for lack of a better word) that you use to hand-rotate the record, does that screw on over the record? How does it grip the record? Is it rubber on the bottom and just by sheer weight maybe the record turns without slipping? I have a do-it-yourself setup and am looking for a way to conveniently add some sort of hand crank for turning the record while brushing and vacuuming, but if this thing really works that well I might go for it. The one on this unit looks like it has finger holes; can you simply put your finger in one of the holes and spin it that way or do you need to apply some pressure while doing it?
Arthur Robillard It’s just a wooden puck with a rubber circle on the bottom of it. I think the “idea” is you’d use a finger, but it really makes more sense to just put light pressure on it with multiple fingers. You’re squeezing the record between the small “turntable” of the cleaner and the puck. Very simple minimalist design. Best of luck.
the Velvets are safe, not scratch the records? Im thinking buy the KAB EV-1 (I like the idea of NO motor) $189 shipped, plastic (not wood, I don't like wood mixed with water stuff) and weight a lot less!
Hi Mike, thanks for the review and video. Any chance of making a before/after video or two? Thanks!
Can you clean 78 rpm records with this? Thanks for a great video!
Great video and review, Mike. I love the small footprint of that machine. Keep the videos coming! Garner
Thanks, Garner. Will do :-)
Hi Mike, just got a record doctor V and and the new bearing you mentioned in the video. Was wondering if the new player that they sent you with the new bearing had an included O ring? I see in the video when you put the platter back on you also put on an O ring to secure it. The following platter that came with the record doctor v didn't have an O ring & neither did the new platter that came with the new bearing.
Boy, you're testing my memory. I really don't remember, sorry! I don't think it's a super-important part of the mechanism, so you're probably OK.
Mike Thomas thanks for the information. I'm sure I will be fine. Did you ever post a video on making your record cleaning solution? Thanks
Matt Weigand Hehe, no, I never got around to it. I think it's something like 90% distilled water, 10% high-purity isopropyl alcohol, and a few drops of LFN (surfactant for film development) in a small-to-medium size bottle. I don't make large quantities of it. Some people get all bent out of shape over the alcohol, but it helps with evaporation, and I haven't run into any issues. YMMV.
Does anyone know if the cleaning formula is safe for shellac 78s? I think I heard somewhere that the Record Doctor formula doesn't use alcohol, which is bad for shellac.
200.00 seems to be quite a lot for this machine. It is just a vacuum and as you say the bearing is not great, i believe you replaced it. You said the person at the company said that was not a problem, well for that much money I would think it is... Also I watched some videos about cleaning records and they say never put the cleaner directly on your albums, what is your opinion about that? I have a little over a thousand albums I want to keep clean. This machine does not impress me that much. Are there other systems out there that are better than this one? Thanks, Troy
If you think $200 is a lot for a RCM you haven't done much shopping! This is the cheapest one I know of, aside from maybe finding it used. All RCMs are overpriced if you're a reductionist (for example, calling it "just a vacuum").
Yes, definitely the original bearing is a joke. I replaced it with a larger one from a different company for less than $20. And yes, I was disappointed in the "engineering" that went into that one, as well. The latter is the one where the seller said "not a problem". I disagree with him in principle (and physics :-)). In use though, it is definitely better than the original bearing. Keep in mind, all you really need to get done is to rotate the record with a reasonable amount of ease. Either bearing approximates that.
In the end, it's a pretty well put-together machine that does what it is designed to do: clean records efficiently and effectively (in my experience). The cost is reasonable, if you consider the competition. Yes, you could build your own or cobble together some process by which to get the same effect, but if you value your time, I'd call it a false economy.
That said, I'm not a shill for this company. There may well be better ways to approach record cleaning, but this one works for me.
Regarding other videos on cleaning. Opinions are like belly-buttons, everyone has one (including me). The internet just makes it worse. People tend to get waaaaaay too anal and weird about record cleaning, IMO.
@Mike Thomas, sir you are right, I haven't done very much shopping around and I appreciate all your info thank you very much..Troy
No problem. Best wishes!
@@mike.thomas true, if you read enough about it, everything is good and everything is bad...
Great video. Thanks. I am going to order one!
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to get one soon. Can you tell me exactly which bearing did you buy? An URL to the actual bearing would be appreciated. Thanks.
Please see the description. The site doesn't lend itself to a direct link, unfortunately.
Hi Mike, any idea of the wattage for the motor? I need to buy a compatible power converter 110~220v for Asia and the wattage info cannot be found anywhere on the unit/plug, the box, the manual or any websites..
No idea. Sorry!
Thanks.
muziknusantara Amazon.com has European for you
Thanks Shawn.. However I already bought from US with a separate transformer ヅ
can you remove the vacuum strip and clean it? I can imagine it collecting a lot of dust.
It's replaceable. Until then, I just brush it off with the stiff side of the included brush (I didn't show that).
Sounds like buying a Rega Turntable with all the upgrades that are recommended....nice video though...might have to give a shot although my Spinclean seems like less work and same results...
Good video thank you I just bought one.
Mine works great except for one thing...the black plate which situates the cleaning brushes and spin top seems to be coming unglued on the one end.
Thanks for video, you answered my questions. I was wondering one thing, why would you put a clean album back in the original sleeve? Thanks!
You probably wouldn’t. If I did it here (I haven’t re-watched), it was convenience for the video, or I was out of new sleeves.
You weren't listening...
Would this work with 7”” records too?
Can you tell me where you bought that microfiber brush? What store did you buy it from and what exactly was it called? Can't seem to locate one. Thank you!
Pretty sure I just got it at a paint store. Any similar should do.
Was it called a paint "applicator" brush or...? Just want to know what type of brush it is. Also do you think I could use the fluid that came with the Spinclean?
Spike Gruber I don’t remember what they called it, but yes, it is a paint applicator brush. I suspect the Spinclean fluid will be just fine. Good luck!
I'm hoping to get one in the future. I can't find the bearing on the site in the description.
The site is kind of crappy. Click the "record cleaners" link in the top menu. Then, keep scrolling down. Eventually you'll se an image of the bearing -- it just looks like two concentric circles. The buy buttons are on the right.
Mike Thomas Mike - thanks for the video. I have one on order and look forward to using it. In regards to the bearing - is it the "all models" bearing or the custom R.D.V bearing? Thanks.
Mike
That was a great no nonsense review.
Ive been looking at the VPI 16.5 but $549.00-$650.00 for the unit is tough for even me to swallow!
I cant see spended almost another $400.00 for something that "turns" the record for you. I'll be subscribing to your channel.
I was wondering how often you need to replace the vacum brush that contacts the record amd how much it is and how you replace it?
Glad you found my review. I still like this machine.
Regarding the vacuum brush, that's a very good question, and I don't know the answer for certain. I feel that I've read about people replacing the brush with aftermarket material, but I could be remembering wrong. Maybe that's the downfall of this machine. I'll probably never wear mine out -- I just don't have (or buy) enough vinyl to really give this thing a workout.
Mike Thomas Here’s the place to get new strips www.wsdistributing.com/record-doctor/record-doctor-sweeper-strip-kit/
Looks like Audio Advisor has them now, too. I just got an email from them the other day regarding that.
www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RDSSK
Mike Thomas
Thanks Mike.
I just picked up a used VPI 16.5 about 4 weeks ago for $345.00.
Love it.
I always gravitated towards the VPI, but new ones were out of my price range.
So the Record Doctor V was my 2nd choice.
Thanks for the link though.
good! Im thinking buy one, but!!! wait you STILL need RINSE! that record, using distilled water, is like you use shampoo in your hair but don't rinse with water, after liquids use water.
where did you get the paint applicator? is there one you recommend? thanks!
+Luke D I got it ... wait for it ... at a paint store! :-D
Just look for one that looks like the one I have, and you'll probably be fine.
@@mike.thomas does it have to be microfiber?
Can you clean 45s with it?
Might not make a good suction, since the 45 is so small relative to an LP.
Ok, thanks
hey mike ..good review again..but i was thinking about the cleaner ..but after the video i will hold out on buying one..its a good product ..i don't have thousands of records.. so i don't think its for me right now.. and by the way ..i really like washing my used records in the sink ..the old fashion way.. as my collection grows i will have this on my radar ..
That's totally understandable.
ki flex Very correct thinking. I have more than a thousand records and the sink is more than good enough. A record only needs to be cleaned once in its life as long as it is handled properly.
Nice review Mike! Actually, the best and most thorough review that I've seen of the Record Doctor V. I was looking into the Nitty Gritty 1, but this looks equally as good and significantly cheaper. Thanks!
George in Florida
Glad you liked the review. I believe the RDV is just a stripped-down version of the NG1. That's fine by me -- I won't be displaying it as furniture :-).
Great review. I just ordered mine . Can you do me a favor and give me the specs of the bearing I need from Amazon? I prefer Amazon because I have the store card and can have it delivered quickly !!!!! Thanks again.
Gary Falzone Hmm. Specs? I think any flat needle bearing about the size of a quarter or half-dollar would do it. Sorry I can't be more specific -- I don't have a micrometer ;-)
It looks like the original components are not that good since you modified it. It looks like you love and want what is best for your collection
What is your home-made cleaning solution?
Oh, you're testing my memory. Haven't mixed it in a while. Probably something like 90% distilled water, 10% iso alcohol, and a few drops of film wetting agent (for photographic film).
@@mike.thomas Throw in some propylene glycol (some use ethylene glycol) and you have the touted old discwasher formula. The professor at Mizzou who invented the formula did a good job all these many decades ago..lol!
Kevin Fetner Thanks. Good to know!
@@kevinfetner7983 do you have one without alcohol?
watch for mold buildup inside the box
I was ready to buy a Spin Clean, but now ... :)
5:29 - yeeeeeee buddy yeeeeee....
i am hoping that they have improved that machine a lot. I had one fail by having the impeller blades break off inside. i thought, ok, i will just open the bottom. turned it over and found the bottom to be hot glued shut.
alrighty then, i have to bash it in and i will just get another piece of fiberboard and glue it in when i am done. so i break into it and this is when i find the impeller blades all broken of. well, i will get an allen wrench or screwdriver and remove the collet that holds the blades and order a new blade part.
no such luck, it was a press fit. then i will just remove the motor. nope, it was hot glued, just like the fiberboard bottom. i know, i will call the company and they will have an economical solution. well, NO, they want $100 plus shipping.
the only way i can solve this is to glue another bottom in and then drill a hole big enough to hook up a small shop vac to it. so there it sits. overall, wasted money. i bought a SpinClean instead and after cleaning the record in the bath, rinse with my reverse osmosis spigot and then dry with a microfiber cloth, and dry in a rack.
actually, in lieu of a rack, i bought several clear plastic easels (the kind yWalmartt display a plate wieth). they were from Walmart called Mainstays 8 inck Tabletop Easel.
the spinclean works way better than you would expect and it is much cheaper than ANY ready made vacuuming machine such as rec dr or even the KAB device that takes a vac like i was planning.
i really do hate being the bearer of bad news but the rec dr can be a waste of money.
...hifitommy
Thomas Roy Wow, that sucks. Hopefully that's an unusual occurrence, rather than the rule. But it doesn't matter for you -- a bad experience over all. The Spin Clean seems like a good solution. I sink-washed my records before getting the RDV. Worked pretty well, and the Spin Clean is possibly better.
hey mike,
when i washed in the sink, i used one of those red directional velvet brushes for lint that you can get for a buck at the dollar stores, a droplet of dawn and scrubbed lightly on both sides, rinsed (a lot with a sink sprayer) and dried with paper towels (not really bad for the records). the spin clean is better but if i get one with a lot of dirt, i sink wash it first.
one can get an ultrasonic cleaner for about $600 albeit without the drying feature which would be another $120.
i enjoy your YTs , what number are you up to now?
When I was sink washing I used the same microfiber brush-y thing I use now with the RDV. I believe I used a microfiber towel to dry. I think I actually did a video about it (speaking of my video count). Paper towels probably don't do any damage, but they do have glue in them that might leave a residue, but probably nothing atrocious. People get a little weird about records :-).
I'm over 350 videos, if you count ALL of them. Probably over 200 are somewhat worthwhile to somebody, somewhere :-). Thanks for watching!
well, i did move to the microfiber cloths. which do you use?
the diaper cloth ones that came with my spinclean are not that good, i actually preferred paper towels over those.
thanks for putting good subjects on your audio reviews. it sounds like we would get along fine in person. where do you live?
...hifitommy
Thomas Roy Re microfiber cloths, I just used some clean ones that I had laying around.
I live in the Denver, CO area. Thanks for watching!
i just clean records washing with wather and soap, and let it dry.... so simple and cheap....
Nuno Lopes It is. I have a video on that, too. This is an improvement IMO, but to each his own.
I agree the design seems good but vacuuming is not necessary. I have cleaned several hundred records without vacuuming with excellent results. What I don't understand is why so many people using a device like this don't rinse the records. If this device and others like it don't have directions that recommend rinsing the records it only further illustrates the fact vacuuming is not necessary for the manufacturer doesn't even understand how to correctly clean records.
Interesting point. You could be right.
However, do you feel the rinsing is required in order to get rid of whatever additives the washing fluid has in it, or to carry the dirt away? If it's the former, I think most fluids are probably 95% or greater distilled water and the vacuum pulls most of that away. In my dry climate the record is mostly dry when I pull it off the machine. If it's the latter, that's what the vacuum is for -- to ensure the gunk that you dislodged doesn't just settle back down.
Anyway, my method before this was to sink wash. It might have been more effective at actually removing stuff because it's a "bath", and much more fluid is used, but then the records either had to be towel dried (what I did), which always kind of bothered me, or purely air-dried, which left the chance of remaining gunk re-settling or dust falling onto the records as they sat there. And if you don't use distilled water on both sides you run the risk of introducing mineral deposits to the record surface.
So, basically I think of this RCM as a labor-saving device. It's probably as good as sink washing, but 100x more convenient.
You should do a video on your technique. It would be interesting. Be warned, though, you'll probably get critiques, too -- everyone's an expert on RUclips ;-).
Mike Thomas Actually I did make a video several months ago demonstrating how to use a specific product. The product I use requires a rinse otherwise as you pointed out residue from the cleaner will remain on the surface and be audible. Regardless of what is used some residue from the cleaner will remain if not properly rinsed. How much remains depends on the concentration of the solution used and as you also pointed out most cleaning solutions are likely very high in water content. I don't use Loyd Walkers product and don't plan on but he points out in a video just drying your hair after washing isn't an effective way of cleaning. Using a cleaner high in water and sticking your head into a vacuum tube may suck most of the debris off your hair making it appear clean it will still be dirty.
This is an endless debate and without a controlled study in a lab with microscopic examination, ya'll are just assuming your facts to be true and/or utilizing confabulation. Usually, the more money you pay for a product, the better you feel it does. And in many cases, a low priced product has to mean an 'inferior' product. We used to call that 'stepping over dollars to pick up pennies'. I bought this unit (never used it yet) that sets your records up vertically....then you use a special nozzle attached to your sink faucet or hose, cleaning the record in a specified pattern. Finish by using a liquid 'preservative' type substance. I can't say one way or another about this process since I haven't used it.....other than my vote would be outside with better pressure than the sink faucet. Again, without science backing me up, any claims would be subjective. There is KNOWN, however, that there are substances that can harm vinyl......so at least do the research on that.
But....the proof is in the pudding. You say it rocks, and I believe you. Show us! Play a record you've cleaned and make a video so we can hear how good it sounds!
I sold mine but I'm buying another one soon.
I loved it but I needed money damn sucks to .
I wish someone buy me one for my birthday I never get shit anymore .
Chinese Rocks
how pull out the fluids, you forget show that.
There's a drain hole, with a plug, in the bottom of the unit.
thanks Mike, yes I saw the plug in pics but looks too little, don't have any hose or something, see the pic: www.decibelhifi.com.au/assets/alt_3/RDV.jpg looks like a hole in a coconut! I don't figure out how the water can pull out from there with a hose or something.
John Smith Yes, the drain hole is very small. It’s an inexpensive record cleaner (relatively speaking), so lots of corners were cut.
IM SOLD!
I just buy Photo-Flo and make my own cleaner. I use a label protector and scrub with a paint applicator in the sink. Ain't getting any cleaner.
Photo-Flo is a great idea!
Does it clean scratches?
thats no way to clean scratch....lol is plastic dude, just wash with soap and let it dry!!!
Impossible
Never use tap water with records, other then that everything else seems legit.
It was the great video until you turn it on. That record machine vacuum is ear piercing. I was sold on it until it was turned on. otherwise thank you for the wonderful video.
Rxonmymind Heh. Yeah, record cleaners are loud. It's ironic, since the thing you use to make your records sound better can make you deaf.
microfiber cloths and your microfibre paint brush leave material fibres on the record. You should be using a carbon fibre brush to work in the cleaning fluid. You should never touch your records with tap water !!!!!
And you wonder why there is dust/microscopic material filaments on your record after cleaning that you remove with your carbon brush. No carbon brush is going to remove the calcium and other deposits left from the tap water.. Your records probably are in worse condition after you have cleaned them with your method.
youve just put a cleaned record back into a sleeve that the dirty record came out of
you just watched and didn't listen...
That is really loud
why not to go to audio shop and clean with real mashine?
Sounds like a pain in the ass, that's why. What's un-real about this one, anyway? Just the fact that it doesn't turn the record for you? Get real.
are you sure that this toy are so good like for instance-keith monks? does this mashine able to suck out all mud from the bottom of the groove?
say what bitch?
Vincent Vin
Point being, not everyones got 2 grand to spend on something to clean their records.
It is real...
has a cheap bearing..leaves a hard line and dust behind...comes with a cheap brush.....all for just 200$ ?
Yes
getting too HOT after 10 records cleaning?
So: It requires, a cover, which is not available. The bearing on the floppy little spindle is a piece of junk, so you replaced that. The brush is a piece of junk, so you bought a little paint applicator from Home Depot. The small bottle of cleaning fluid is quickly used up and way overpriced. And the RD V is terribly noisy. And you say we’d be nuts not to buy this?
For a third of the price and no great effort I can build something myself that will do the same job without all of these deficiencies. The recipe for making your own cleaning fluid in large quantities is readily available, too.
Cover not required. I wanted one. Got it for free from a friend.
Yes, the supplied bearing sucks, but it works OK. Replacement is dirt cheap, but not required.
Similar with the brush.
I do make my own cleaning fluid, though perhaps I didn't mention it or wasn't using it at the time.
All vacuum record cleaners are noisy.
You'd only be nuts not to consider it if you are *actually interested in buying a record cleaner*. Apparently you aren't that interested, or perhaps you haven't comparison shopped. Record cleaners are definitely crazy expensive, and this one is dirt cheap by comparison. You should do a video of the one you build. That would be cool.
Waste of Money. Clean my records in the sink and they sound Perfect. As long as I clean With soft microfiber spunge and put them in clean inners they only need one clean ever as long as I hold them by the sides. Stay away from this overpriced machine and use the sink wih great results, every time.
aquavitvibes72 Yeah, I've used the sink, too. I even have a video about it. This is quicker and neater, IMO. Other folks can decide for themselves whether it's a waste of money.
They can decide, but don`t say I did not warn them. Most People will probably regret it. ust not enough benefits to defend the price.
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What a pile of rubbish you go on about not having a platter and that is better but you're forgetting that the Velvet lips are touching the dirty record surface and is transferred onto the clean surface vacuum pump idea is not the best way to dry it just let it dry naturally you're introducing more dirt from the air and causes of static charge. Take the Velvet lips off might help and a stopper on the end. Don't use tap water distilled or deionized only
Air dry is only good if you're using 100% pure water...