Very great information. Liking these videos very much. It seems very difficult to find anyone that will actually help modified vehicles get to where they need to be on spring rates and valving for specific applications.
Every time I watch another one of your videos, I can't help but think I'm working towards a degree or certification. You guys are a total blessing and keep thing real and personal. Thank you for teaching us and being highly reachable for specific questions on here, in emails, over the phone, as if it's in person.
Fantastic video. I learned a lot about shocks and suspension and you just scratched the surface. It is humbling to realize how much I THOUGHT I knew compared to how little I actually know. It will be great so see the results of your Bronco testing on the tuned Fox Shocks.
Once we have a package we are settled on and tuned I’ll probably drag Mike Kim in to do one of these and discuss the Fox internal bypass with remote compression adjustment and give us all a breakdown
Appreciate the video, Sonny seems like a cool cat to shoot the shit with. You guys touched on a lot of concepts that people need to consider when building their rigs. Keep up the great content.
What would you recommend for maintaining ride height without raising the shock preload? Stiffer springs? My 2021 Bronco tends to squat in the rear even with a modest amount of recovery gear loaded in the back.
Good your trying to educate people! Please do a raptor portal kit! 3.88” lift but no or little preload on shocks it would be killer!!! Plus serious ground clearance even with 37” tires!!!
I will do an in depth dive into this topic with Mike Kim from Fox (head suspension tuner) who is a good friend of mine…will also sit down with Wayne Isrealson from Alltech Motorsports to dive into more shock setups. It’s great to have guys like this who I’ve known and been friends with for years who love the idea of putting out this type of content with the intention of educating those that are willing to listen.
Love the video, thank you! One question regarding your comparison of long travel vs portals with regards to wheel travel. Would your portal (5th gen 4Runner) give the same amount of increased wheel travel (due to arc) as a +3.5" per side long travel kit, since you state in your specs that the portal increases width by 3.5" per side? Always quite confused on this issue. I am fine to keep my speeds under 30mph in Anza Borrego :-), but would (primarily) like better performance rock crawling, i.e. more wheel travel (besides ground clearance of course). Not sure if this is correct but when talking about wheel travel I am thinking of more articulation while going over rocks (and yes, appreciate that swaybar and tons of other things play into that too).
Wider track width does not necessarily equate to “long travel” a long travel setup typically incorporates a longer travel shock. Since we don’t change the shock placement on the OEM arm we are not giving the setup much additional travel. If your goal is a good ride at offroad at moderate speeds the factory travel suspension will be more than enough. A portal will give you ground clearance. A long travel will never do that because as long as the CV is at the center of the wheel there is no way to raise the lower arm for clearance. And in my super biased opinion (all be it based on 20 years of off roading all types of terrain) there is just no substitute for ground clearance in off road terrain. That is why we want bigger tires, for clearance, and because bigger tires make large holes smaller.
@@74weld Haha, "super-biased opinion based on 20 years experience", I'm happy to learn from that any day of the week 🙂. I did not take the changed shock / shock attachment point on LT into account. Thank you very much clearing that up for me!
So what y’all are saying is I should get my fox 2.5 shocks tuned on the Mojave every 30 to 40 thousand miles now is that a full break down or a nitrogen charge and yes I know it’s time I’m starting to hit the bump stops in the front over speed bumps big ones but still I do a lot of beach driving
Very great information. Liking these videos very much. It seems very difficult to find anyone that will actually help modified vehicles get to where they need to be on spring rates and valving for specific applications.
Every time I watch another one of your videos, I can't help but think I'm working towards a degree or certification. You guys are a total blessing and keep thing real and personal. Thank you for teaching us and being highly reachable for specific questions on here, in emails, over the phone, as if it's in person.
I love that this video is assuming people are pretty smart already about suspension. VERY satisfying.
Very awesome video! Really enjoying the stuff yall are putting out. Learning a ton here
Love this kind of stuff. Thanks for putting out some actual educational content!
Fantastic video. I learned a lot about shocks and suspension and you just scratched the surface. It is humbling to realize how much I THOUGHT I knew compared to how little I actually know. It will be great so see the results of your Bronco testing on the tuned Fox Shocks.
Once we have a package we are settled on and tuned I’ll probably drag Mike Kim in to do one of these and discuss the Fox internal bypass with remote compression adjustment and give us all a breakdown
Well done guys. Quinn- keep this content coming man!!
Appreciate the video, Sonny seems like a cool cat to shoot the shit with. You guys touched on a lot of concepts that people need to consider when building their rigs. Keep up the great content.
Sonny is a super solid dude
Would love to hear opinions on live valve shocks and other similar technologies.
We will probably do this dive with someone from Fox…but I will make it happen because there is so much cool stuff to talk about.
Another great video. Now I have more questions.
You guys gunna do portals for Sprinters anytime soon???
Great, really useful tech. Thank you!
What would you recommend for maintaining ride height without raising the shock preload? Stiffer springs? My 2021 Bronco tends to squat in the rear even with a modest amount of recovery gear loaded in the back.
Good your trying to educate people! Please do a raptor portal kit! 3.88” lift but no or little preload on shocks it would be killer!!! Plus serious ground clearance even with 37” tires!!!
Love this video!Thanks!
Thanks, it's kinda making sense... I appreciate your guys time to tell us all this info! Cheers!
More Tacoma stuff Quinn! Been noticing bronco and jeep getting too much spotlight 🤙
Ha. I try to spread the love evenly…you will see lots more as soon as I get my 24 taco.
Wish they talked about coilover click adjusters and if they’re worth the extra expense
I will do an in depth dive into this topic with Mike Kim from Fox (head suspension tuner) who is a good friend of mine…will also sit down with Wayne Isrealson from Alltech Motorsports to dive into more shock setups. It’s great to have guys like this who I’ve known and been friends with for years who love the idea of putting out this type of content with the intention of educating those that are willing to listen.
Love the video, thank you! One question regarding your comparison of long travel vs portals with regards to wheel travel. Would your portal (5th gen 4Runner) give the same amount of increased wheel travel (due to arc) as a +3.5" per side long travel kit, since you state in your specs that the portal increases width by 3.5" per side? Always quite confused on this issue. I am fine to keep my speeds under 30mph in Anza Borrego :-), but would (primarily) like better performance rock crawling, i.e. more wheel travel (besides ground clearance of course). Not sure if this is correct but when talking about wheel travel I am thinking of more articulation while going over rocks (and yes, appreciate that swaybar and tons of other things play into that too).
Wider track width does not necessarily equate to “long travel” a long travel setup typically incorporates a longer travel shock. Since we don’t change the shock placement on the OEM arm we are not giving the setup much additional travel. If your goal is a good ride at offroad at moderate speeds the factory travel suspension will be more than enough. A portal will give you ground clearance. A long travel will never do that because as long as the CV is at the center of the wheel there is no way to raise the lower arm for clearance. And in my super biased opinion (all be it based on 20 years of off roading all types of terrain) there is just no substitute for ground clearance in off road terrain. That is why we want bigger tires, for clearance, and because bigger tires make large holes smaller.
@@74weld Haha, "super-biased opinion based on 20 years experience", I'm happy to learn from that any day of the week 🙂. I did not take the changed shock / shock attachment point on LT into account. Thank you very much clearing that up for me!
So what y’all are saying is I should get my fox 2.5 shocks tuned on the Mojave every 30 to 40 thousand miles now is that a full break down or a nitrogen charge and yes I know it’s time I’m starting to hit the bump stops in the front over speed bumps big ones but still I do a lot of beach driving
You only need to change valving if you don’t like what you have. A typical rebuild will consist of seals, oil, and maybe a piston wear band if needed
Measured about 2” of droop on my bilstein 8112’s
Love this kind of stuff. Thanks for putting out some actual educational content!
Love this kind of stuff. Thanks for putting out some actual educational content!
I think you have an echo on your account. You posted this 4 times