First Time VESC User - The Real Experience
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- I try taking on the complex world of VESC and making a BIG brushless motor run. Join our electric turbo forum for more info about batteries, ESCs, motors and turbos/superchargers ripe for electric conversion at www.electrifiedboost.com. If you'd like to help me pay for all this stuff checkout my Patreon page: / alexltdlx
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Thanks for the video!
You chose current control in the PPM Configuration. I believe this is effectively torque control. As you have no load the speed will continue to increase until you reach your maximum rpm. I think this is why it is going straight to maximum pwm and rpm.
If you change the PPM Configuration to "Duty Cycle No Reverse" you should have an input that is approximately speed control. I suspect this is what you are expecting to see.
Disclaimer: I am not an expert, just making an observation in an attempt to help :)
Great video Alex!
Great vid Alex, anxious to see it in a live setting.
Thanks. I'm actually working on mounting the TP Power motor to the P2 blower right now. I have all the "hard to get" parts on hand too - particularly the belt and the pulley. Hopefully there will be a video of the whole setup running at least on low power in the next several days.
Hahahaha love the start. Love the intro. I been following, the hobbywing max4 is a great esc. Right know im pushing a 1150kv 5870 on 10s without any issues. Also have a 2280 d3….different class of motor but you can defiantly get more boost with higher kv/ a little more amp draw. You put a lot of time and money so i’m not advising you to spend more. I have a tp 5670 cm 2510 6 pole you could test on 6s safely..spins to 47,000 under load(“8s rated motor” but no esc is capable of running the 6 pole motor’s to + 80,000rpms). I ran it with 10mm bullets. It’s a beast
always learning something new on this channel
Thanks, Robbi.
Neat. I've been putting off getting a VESC since the usual ones cant handle much power, but the trampa stuff looks quality.
It's definitely a nice piece.
Really like the idea of electric turbo/superchargers. I don't have the expertise to make a kit myself and off the shelf kits in the UK are £2100 which is out of my reach but im hoping one day there will be a happy medium.
Are you referring to Torqamp? Those are really only good for about 200 hp. This unit should be good for 600-650 hp (less on lower powered cars that want to run more boost - the boost/max output relationship has yet to be established). This setup would cost about $1,500 USD (sorry, no pound symbol on my keyboard) to reproduce without batteries if you DIY. Not that I'm suggesting you do so. And if you do, I'm not responsible for any harm. But if you do, the really nice thing about this setup is how flexible it is - it'll work just fine on 150 hp engines up to 500 hp engines.
@@AlexLTDLX Hi,yes i was referring to torqamp. Your setup sounds fantastic but i don't feel im knowledgeable enough to partake such a thing.i only have a civic with a 1.6 vtec producing 110bhp and would be happy with something like a 50bhp brief boost for sure, nothing to crazy. I suppose i could fit a Nos kit for that and cheaper but i much prefer this idea. Really enjoy your videos and thank you for the reply.
@@AlexLTDLX Awesome video and a great primer to the 'fun' of figuring VESC out. Thank you.
I can't help but be a troll... 650HP? Is that all? Teslas can do that without the smelly and complicated squish bang expand exhausty bit :-P
@@jibbyjabby7499 if you just add a motor in parallel to the engine as a sort of hybrid, the Trampa could easily give you a 20-25HP boost, and with improved low end torque if you gear it right
“Choose your own adventure with a bad ending in every direction.” LMFAO!
I do wish there was a verified one-stop comprehensive set of instructions...
I like the copper tubing idea
Really want to see the results of this bolted to the new P2 supercharger. Hurrry up :) please
Belt for blower arrived today. Waiting on pulley for the motor... Doing my best.
Nice to see the vesc used for electric boost , if you need help , i can give you some hints !
Check out my most recent vid, where we power up the VESC/P2 e turbo for the first time. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
Run the FOC tune algorithm tabs
They're the buttons sorta lower right of the screen in the FOC page
Tried everything possible, under the tutelage of Frank at Trampa. Just not good at high power/high eRPM. If you look through my videos, I've given the VESC many, many tries.
No clue whatsoever what you described, but I do like horsepower!
Lol - that makes two of us - on both fronts! Perhaps that's why there's been so much fire in this electric turbo development... speaking of which, this controller will control a second, more streamlined and cheaper/easier to build unit than my first one. Thanks for posting and subscribing!
@@AlexLTDLX This is some very cool stuff you are doing! So in-depth that I'm sure the electrical guys are enjoying it, and I am trying to understand some of it, but my old brain isn't "wired for it" (see how I did that...lol) Just can't wait for some more rolling footage!
how have you sliced the 3 wires from the vesc together? Obviously you have to join up the 3 power wires from the vesc and connect top the single power wires from battery / to motor. Be grateful to know how you did that. THanks
Love how yours just works. Mine isn't.
I'm sorry to hear that. I think there's still work to be done before it can truly be considered ready for the public. But once it does get sorted, it should be a great tool because of all the data you can get out of it in real time.
what is the connector called, the one for the power and ground red and black cable coming from the vesc?
Thinking of using this with my e-bike. Do you know if this works with a torque meter/pedal assist?
I honestly don't know. But given its flexibility, there's a good chance it does.
I had the same problem with servo controller, it's either on or off, no incremental throttle
supposed to be able to control it with the keyboard arrows too but it just sits there and grinds when I try that
it depends, current control without any load will go max speed without any control, you need to use PID speed control or Duty Cycle control if you actually just wanna control the speed, but that way you need to be sure the rest is set up correctly cause it'll try to push all the power it can to its set limits
i prefer current control for the sake of being able to control how much power/torque i feed maximally
I have a flipsky pro v2 on a bafang. But it gives a hard punch to the motor at the bottom of the gas handle. It feels just like a punch u also hear it. Can i get this away by curving the voltage / amps?
Probably. You could also make sure the control signal ramps up slowly if you can't do it in the VESC.
wow i was expecting something smoky
Lol. Me too, tbh.
At least this video reassures me ill be fine haha
Alex, plz model motor
Would it be able to handle low rpm high torque 3000w 75v bldc motor? I'm planning to build a large ugv that would carry couple of specimen :)
Yeah, that should be easy for it. But they do recommend staying around 63 volts; they're concerned about voltage spikes.
what kind of battery is that?
That's a Zeee 9,000 mah 4s pack. This is a two pack of these exact batteries: amzn.to/3T2TFmy , this is a single battery but with a deans connector (and a better price): amzn.to/3e8v9Bo
brother how do you install that tool, its too complicated please help
It's been a while; VESC is honestly problematic all around. I don't remember the install process, but I'm seeing the latest update is a bit difficult to install for others. It's disappointing; and I'm a bit annoyed I wasted that much money on it. It's not really a useable product.
Hello, Do you know what ppm is?
Yes - in this case it refers to the signal from an RC receiver or servo tester. Typically 50 hz, with a pulsewidth of 1-2ms. 1ms being throttle off (or full brake or reverse - depending on how you have the thing configured) and 2ms being full throttle.
@@AlexLTDLX Do you know what device is connected to PPM Port? I am making EV Car with VESC 75/300 Controller, but I don't know how to use this.
@@AlexLTDLX Additionally, Could you tell me model name of anti-spark switch that you used?
Wh u not castle xlx2 mine holds 600amp runs and only 260 $
Not enough voltage capability. I've already stepped back from 70 volts to 60 to accommodate available ESCs.
@@AlexLTDLX you should check out the BESC G2 - an open source VESC variant, you order the PCBs yourself so you basically make it but it is beefy - 100V 400A… you can build it alternatively to handle 150V and 250A. And the best thing is it only costs about $200 I believe? It varies with the cost of the electronics.
Everything can be solved Blowing up controllers by going by how many cells are used ....... ridiculous blowing a controller
Did you mention what plug you used to connect pc to vesc?
It's a micro USB connector.
You read the manual, I bet you would ask for directions if you were lost also! )
Lol. Yeah, I admit - I do ask for directions if I'm lost (and have no phone or service...)