Doc Tells the Truth about NBC News piece on Mendi and ADHD
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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Cody Rall, M.D., is a United States Navy trained Psychiatrist who specializes in neurotechnology wearables. He is a co-founder of Stanford Brainstorm, the world’s first academic laboratory dedicated to transforming brain health through entrepreneurship.
Dr. Rall also served as a board member of the psychiatry innovation lab, an annual national competition at the American Psychiatric Association that works as an incubator for groups developing technological solutions to problems in mental health care. He is the founder of Techforpsych, a media and relations company that covers advancements in technology related to neuroscience.
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Episode Timestamp Notes:
Mendi on NBC News: 0:00-1:17
Amen Clinics: 1:17-1:53
My Personal Experience : 1:53-2:35
FDA Approval for ADHD?: 2:35- 3:56
The Latest Research: 3:56-6:06
Medication Alternatives: 6:06-8:54
Professional Athletes: 8:54-10:26
My opinion on ADHD Medication: 10:26-11:45
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Dr. Russell Barkley is very skeptical of Amen’s claims regarding SPECT scans.
I’m surprised you do not hedge when discussing the promise of SPECT scans for diagnosing ADHD.
It does not appear you have any financial conflicts, so would appreciate why you do not feel the need to point out Amen’s claims have reasonable doubt levied against them.
I did have a longer discussion about pros and cons of SPECT scans filmed but felt that it made the video too long. Perhaps I should have included more of it here. But I can def include that discussion in future videos. Thanks for bringing it up Mark.
Hey Doc! Definitely love your earlier reply about looking into Training not treatment, opening up possibilities and without making health-related claims. Better approach, IMHO, is to release expectations, notice what happens and rather be on the lookout for subtle and seamless change and perhaps powerful changes over time… 🙏
Thanks so much for another comment on this Craig. I agree. Let's talk about what we can use to train our minds so that treatments are less necessary!
@@CodyRallMDwanna get into meditation again got the muse like 7 years ago. The space has changed alot. Any recommendations i just want to increase focus & creativity & keep my brain fit. Liked how muse gave you feedback
Hi Cody what's ur opinion on TDCS devices Neuromyst, BRAIN driver....
Hi Cody, I am working on a research project which needs a wireless fNIRS to record data. Do you have any recommendations pop up in your mind? Back in the days when I worked on Muse for EEG signals, your video helped me a lot. Thanks, Cody!
I am using Mendi today. And been using it for over 1 year.
But do you think Sensai is better for medication and focus training? Was thinking about buying 1.
Great perspective, thanks. BTW do you know what's going on with Focus Calm US? They seem to have gone silent.
Thanks Stephan. Yeah I'm not sure about FocusCalm, BrainCo seems to be adjusting their approach. I know the president of the American Division of BrainCo with Focus Calm left is post but I am not privy to the details.
Would meditation with visualization be similar? Like imagining a ball and moving it purposely in your mind's eye?
Probably! When you meditate (insight meditation), you're re-training your focus. Every time you have that random thought pop up, you acknowledge it without judgement and let it go and refocus on [your breath]... You're practicing focus.
People have been doing this for millennia without mendi. But I can see why we need something more (faster/easier to teach children) nowadays with the way screens have ruined our brains.
Edited to fix grammar.
Great insights on the news srory, Cody. Moha was just in my lab, and we went deep down the rabbit hole of possibilities. Your name came up more rhan once for your invaluabe experience and view of these devices. Thanks for your continued encouragement.
That's great! Thanks for the comment Mark.
Thanks Doc! Been using Mendi nearly consistently for a couple weeks now. The highest I ever scored was a 154% NA with 35,424 o2 points. Watched this and a few of your other Mendi videos, just did another session to try out the tips, and hit 3348% NA with 262,601 o2 points, which is crazy because all I could do this morning was 18% NA w 3,275 o2 points. Either its broken (lol) or those were some good tips. Appreciated!
Sometimes the calibration gets a little wonky. If the ball starts going crazy off the get-go, I stop the session and recalibrate. Then it seems to go smoother.
@@CodyRallMD Oh yeah. The ball was going so crazy it went off and stayed off the screen or it switched directions so fast I couldn't even see it. All that was visible was a wall of technicolor flipping back and forth from the left and right side. However, the craziness didn't start till after a minute or so into the session on the high score one earlier. Also just did another session just after finishing lunch and had a similar experience. Hardly any score for the first few minutes, then the ball started bouncing in longer and longer strides in both directions till the same thing happened again where I couldn't even see the ball because it was off the screen again. It felt like my nerves in my arms and legs were tensing my muscles but my muscles were not physically tensing. Kind of like the signal was being sent to tense but no actual tensing was happening, at least not a way that ended with in clinched muscles. Got an NA of 1196% and 113,641 o2 from the latest session. Will be interesting to see what happens over the next week.
@@SandersonRin did you see any more benefits over this past month?
@@ajsanchez-o7i Yes, overall I've noticed as my focus increases, my self-discipline deepens in other areas of my life as well. To be fair I do a lot of things beyond meditation but I can say adding the meditation to my practice correlates with what I described above. Neural scores for June were 3348%, 480%, 28%,181%, 29%, 8%, 9%, 7%, 20%, 65%, 59%, 20%, 65832%, 90%, 9879%. Overall scores for the same period ranged from 76 to 93 with an average in the high 80's eyeballing it.
It would be cool to see you have an interview about tech and psychology and philisophy on the DTFH podcast
Thanks that would be fun. Let him know!
🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
00:56 *🧠 Mendy, a wearable neurofeedback device, targets blood flow in the prefrontal cortex to improve focus and attention in ADHD.*
02:59 *🚫 Mendy is not FDA approved for ADHD treatment in the US yet; cautious wording is needed to avoid overstating treatment efficacy.*
05:06 *💊 Studies suggest Mendy's technology, fNIR neurofeedback, can improve impulsivity and ADHD symptoms faster than EEG neurofeedback, but regulatory approval and funding for research remain challenges.*
08:19 *🏀 Neurofeedback training like Mendy offers potential long-term benefits for ADHD treatment compared to short-term relief from medications, but both medication and therapy can be effective in combination.*
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Thank you for the recap.
You have to notice how LeBron James is wearing a Mendi in the background 6:14 😂
I think it’s just his sweatband haha
@@CodyRallMD It is, but the joke is too easy 😅
Great well balanced video. I really appreciate your balanced commentary Cody. Rather than just drinking the kool aid, you always lead with science and studies to back up the claims. The University of Victoria study was interesting. Thank you so much for your continued leadership to further our understanding of brain health.
Thanks Ben much appreciated!
You need to do those specs on a standing MRI as I believe a lot of brain dysfunction is something structural ie causing loss of blood flow/ draining. Would be interesting to see different results from lying down and upright 😊
Shocked to death is this why ?
Mama help😢
Is Mendi currently available, or in development as a kickstarter or indego project?
I would suggest doing a deep dive into the connection between ADHD and MOLD SICKNESS, aka CIRS OR MCAS.
Mold sickness is known to contract blood vessels, especially in the feet, hands, brain and eyes, in fact a visual acuity test is one of the diagnostic criteria used to determine the degree of mycotoxin exposure. It's a free test on line btw.
I'm 72 year old male, and about two years ago was diagnosed with ADHD/ADD. Went on adderall for about six months, but quit due to side effects. I kept investigating however and have most all the symptoms of CIRS and mast cell activation syndrome.
I have mold growing all over my house!
Most doctors have not heard of these conditions and know very little of mold related illnesses.
Check out neuroquant brain imaging mri, used to measure volume in various sections of the brain. It's being used by some in the cirs community.
Good thought. Maybe I'll have to dive deeper into that. Sorry to hear about your situation!
you know people in dry climates have adhd too.. you come across as a bit ... weird.
@@DanteS-119the commenter doesn't suggest that mold is the only possible cause of ADHD. You come across as a little offensive.
I’m a victim of mind tech can u help me please
If it's true that this treatment also helps people who do not have ADHD, then that tells me that it does exactly what ADHD medications do. I don't know that it's clear whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.
I am not aware of any side effects when using the Mendi but there are definitely side effects from stimulant medications
@@CodyRallMD yes, side effects (or a lack of side effects) would be an important consideration. I would think that appetite suppression would become a non issue with the Mendi. I'm wondering if this would be helpful as an adjunct treatment. I've done well on stimulants for a very long time and I have some really good self management strategies, but it's not perfect . . . Maybe this would get me a little closer. These kinds of treatments have been around for quite some time and I always thought they sounded promising.
@snowmonster42 hi which medicine is helping you ?
Money and motivation give access to treatments this kid utilized. Also most people want meds not unproven treatments.
Will this work for people with darker skin? will the amount melanin in the skin may effect its accuracy? it’s known that medical devices that use red light are not as effective on darker skin.
You referred to studies done in Germany, not very many people of color there.
The fact that you made the original video private, and reposted it after the comment with my experience with the Mendi on ADHD/depression, sadly tells me everything I wish I had known, before I bought the Mendi :(
Feel free to repost your comment here. The re-upload had nothing to do with your comment.
What happened? made adhd worse?
If mendi didnt help your condition, its likely not a blood flow to the frontal cortex, but a resistance to dopamine in the receptors from chronic addiction to instant gratification.
@@petekkrishnansanBURN!
So I guess you have a better recommendation ? Like perhaps micro doses of lsd?
And of course you do know the FDA is compromised at best
Great to see some drug-free alternatives for amphetamine deficit disorder
Wow "Amphetamine Deficit Disorder". Have people been saying that? Interesting term.
@@CodyRallMD Just me being both cynical and silly. I appreciate your work - Thanks!
So I guess you have a better recommendation ? Like perhaps micro doses of lsd?
Are Amen clinics a major $cam! Sensational & false claims by this broadcast. Advertorial.
Is this a question?
@@CodyRallMD Don't want to make statements. don't want to be sued. That is a myth that scans can detect brain abnormalities as there a re NO genes that relate to DSM diagnosis or any MI.
Sign me up now please 🙏! 😂
Cool so who are patients going to sue later since you said you know whose all doing it? Dont use peoples data.
This kiddo did meditation and therapy alongside the device. Both of them have been very well studied to improve ADHD symptoms in kids and adults.
What did this little device do that was more than those treatments?
Can't be isolated how much of the difference made was purely because of MENDI
Had they showed that the kid tried the regular meds free protocol vs meds free protocol with mendi and had that showed significant difference... I would take this more seriously
Otherwise this thing is still not FDA approved and has no studies
This is a startup doing a paid PR campaign with CNBC and using NASA's claims to boost credibility.
In the video, what parents said about adderall not working has been covered up with what the narrator is saying. We have no way of knowing if CNBC was 100% truthful in reporting what those parents said or how much of CNBC's script was made up.
This is a toy.
Parents of kids with ADHD or Autism or both:
Please do not get distracted by this shiny new device because NASA is using it. NASA can use a lots of things without testing. They're doing it on adults not kids. Their employees are not artists, they're engineers and astronauts.
Wanting to cure your kids ADHD puts them at the risk of losing their core strengths.
Please listen to Alex Partridge's podcast episodes to educate yourself.
There are plenty of well studied and documented and effective non meds options for ADHD.
Mendi's only claim to fame is a polished and well edited PR campaign. It's not studied. It's got no real proven merit other than paid endorsements.
Which one would you rather spend on?
These are silly just read books.
This guy is definitely encouraging people here to buy mendi because of his affiliation with them. Mendi is just paying him and other scientists and mds to promote mendi because they need research money or for personal profit. The richer mendi gets, the richer these endorsed scientists and mds get. Lel
Mendi has been out for a while now.
Agreed