Watching these mid 70s teams figure all that out is fascinating. Those cars were so bad ass. Then they absolute madness of the 80s hit. Lol. What a stretch of time for F1.
@@wulfffo Of course they knew how to do aerodynamics, they were limited by the technology, not innovation. And the cars back then generated a higher percentage of their downforce from the floor than todays cars do. That is why most ran without front wings and very skinny rear wings. Around 80% of the downforce was generated by the floor back then.
really nicely done video but i have to disagree about something. current cars don't generate most of their downforce from front wing and diffusor. any good aero engineer will tell you that the front wing is only a conditioner for the whole car ! it doesn't generate much downforce. its primary goal is to make sure air flows nicely everywhere it's supposed to go ! it's been said that the front wing is around 10%, floor around 40 and combo diffusor + rear wings (b included) are about 50%. the floor is also a conditioner for the diffusor and rear wings. so basically the front conditions the floor and the floor conditions the rear. but most of the downforce comes from floor and rear. b wing is conditioned by the the flow over the car and rear suspension/gearbox.
16:39 Jones & Reutemann lost wins due to fuel vaporisation caused by a non-radiused component in the fuel system which created air pockets. It had nothing to do with downforce or fuel sloshing around in the tank.
Is this a true statement?, indy doesn't have the downforce f1 has, and is massively slower at circut of America because of it, I know they have more h/p but I thought the aero was much more simple
Heres a video idea: take a modern f1 season from the past 7 or so years so that there arent many driver changes. Randomly choose half the grid and see how the season goes
Don’t we love those days with distinctive colored cars fighting for supremacy? The black (and gold) beauty, the white (and green) beauty and the yellow (and white/ black) beauty got me hooked to F1.
The Chaparral 2J was extremely fast when it worked properly but basically never did, so it never actually had the opportunity to dominate much of anything. It was so unreliable it only finished one of its four races in 1970, and even then it only managed 6th (I don't know where the stats on its Wikipedia page come from, because this thing did not start 18 races and definitely didn't win any, but it did take two poles and a fastest lap). It was banned mostly because McLaren - who, it should be pointed out, had *actually* been dominating Can-Am for years - were worried about what might happen if Jim Hall got the 2J to hold together for an entire race distance, so they lobbied the governing body to ban the 2J by arguing the fans constituted movable aerodynamic devices.
I mean the 126 c2 was the dominant car of the year they basically won a championship whith a dead driver a broken leg driver and a 42 years old . It was no match for the others lol
Räikkönen of F1 videos, underrated yet those who know, know!
babe wake up, peter brooks uploaded a new video
i just woke up when he posted lol
Peter wake up, babe just posted another video
21:02 I just love that every photo of the new ground effect is just a mercedes or red bull on a crain in Monaco
mercedes, INEOS sponsor on the wing
Crane
The real only way to get a clear view of the floor, other than photos of mechanics carrying the floor around the garage
The sheer amount of experimentation during this period of F1 would be so good nowadays!
Watching these mid 70s teams figure all that out is fascinating. Those cars were so bad ass. Then they absolute madness of the 80s hit. Lol. What a stretch of time for F1.
I loved the JPS car when I was a kid. The car that got me in to F1. Followed the sport for 45 years.
The F1 cars with Ground effect in 1981 and 1982 are actually far less porpoising than in 2022.
noone knew how to do aerodynamics then, so it makes sense that the cars didn't make enough use of ground effects to trigger the porpoising effect.
@@wulfffo Of course they knew how to do aerodynamics, they were limited by the technology, not innovation. And the cars back then generated a higher percentage of their downforce from the floor than todays cars do. That is why most ran without front wings and very skinny rear wings. Around 80% of the downforce was generated by the floor back then.
Great video again. Love the deep dives of an engineering standpoint and the good flow of the video! The photos you use are also great!
can you rank every current driver based on their debut race? also good video
Wow! Level with the most informative F1 videos I have ever watched.
Brilliant video Peter, thanks for your efforts
really nicely done video but i have to disagree about something. current cars don't generate most of their downforce from front wing and diffusor. any good aero engineer will tell you that the front wing is only a conditioner for the whole car ! it doesn't generate much downforce. its primary goal is to make sure air flows nicely everywhere it's supposed to go !
it's been said that the front wing is around 10%, floor around 40 and combo diffusor + rear wings (b included) are about 50%. the floor is also a conditioner for the diffusor and rear wings. so basically the front conditions the floor and the floor conditions the rear. but most of the downforce comes from floor and rear. b wing is conditioned by the the flow over the car and rear suspension/gearbox.
16:39 Jones & Reutemann lost wins due to fuel vaporisation caused by a non-radiused component in the fuel system which created air pockets. It had nothing to do with downforce or fuel sloshing around in the tank.
IndyCar never stopped using ground effects! It just kept getting refined and F1 is very similar.
Is this a true statement?, indy doesn't have the downforce f1 has, and is massively slower at circut of America because of it, I know they have more h/p but I thought the aero was much more simple
You should make a video covering every Ferrari win ever.
Heres a video idea: take a modern f1 season from the past 7 or so years so that there arent many driver changes. Randomly choose half the grid and see how the season goes
The Lotus 78 and 79s were the most beautiful F1 cars of all 😊
Don’t we love those days with distinctive colored cars fighting for supremacy? The black (and gold) beauty, the white (and green) beauty and the yellow (and white/ black) beauty got me hooked to F1.
Remake???? I swear it is. Anyway another great video peter
6:45 That scary looking face on the front of the car
Does anyone know what happened to the original video he made about the ground effect era?
I unlisted it
@@PeterBrookF1 Good grief, why?
@@jamiecloughgaming25387 because we have this version now
heres a fun fact the Elfin MR9 is the only F5000 car desgined fully for ground affects
3º still podium
Nice to see the real innovators credited instead of Mr C taking all the credit.
The Chaparral 2J was extremely fast when it worked properly but basically never did, so it never actually had the opportunity to dominate much of anything. It was so unreliable it only finished one of its four races in 1970, and even then it only managed 6th (I don't know where the stats on its Wikipedia page come from, because this thing did not start 18 races and definitely didn't win any, but it did take two poles and a fastest lap). It was banned mostly because McLaren - who, it should be pointed out, had *actually* been dominating Can-Am for years - were worried about what might happen if Jim Hall got the 2J to hold together for an entire race distance, so they lobbied the governing body to ban the 2J by arguing the fans constituted movable aerodynamic devices.
In fairness, the fans were precisely that, and illegal by the rules.
Dang F1 cars used to be so much cooler and different! Nowadays car rules are so restrictive and boring
I mean the 126 c2 was the dominant car of the year they basically won a championship whith a dead driver a broken leg driver and a 42 years old . It was no match for the others lol
Fact that modern f1s problems would go away if they just allow the side skirts back
Probably not, active suspension would probably help though, with porpoising
man just seeing the pictures of these cars is wild... how much coke did they do back then? :D
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Tony Rudd, I think, was involved in the design of the Mosquito