2020 Yamaha YZF-R6 vs 2019 Kawasaki ZX-6R: A Novice Track Rider’s Perspective
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Don’t you ever get tired of reading track comparisons from guys that are riding at international race-winning levels? From guys who have been racing their entire lives and who drag elbow like it’s their job (literally)? Me neither, but the guys here at MO and I thought there might be someone out there who could appreciate insight from what a novice track rider might experience when comparing some of the latest 600-class supersports. The two most recently updated of which happen to be the Yamaha R6 and Kawasaki ZX-6R.
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Kawi, more power, less money, quick shifter, looks great and comfortable. Easy choice.
Yamaha is looter comany anyways less power less performance more money. Kawa rocks all day
Yamaha's paint sucks too. MT07, MT09 XSR700 AND XSR900. All these models have swing arm rust issues even if you buy new. Yamaha R3 has thin paint which is ruined by factory cover easily. DO NOT BUY YAMAHA. Don't trust me? Check out these bike's forums.
@@ClashLAW_Nis yamaha very good quality and top speed win. İ think R6 best 600cc because, very easy control/turn on crucial. Zx6r more power, less money.
Badass Beast Hey bro..! 😉✌️you post same comment in cbr 1000 rr vs r1m 😂 ..! Yamaha is looter company Honda is Honda and etc... 😂 come on bro chill out.! Nothing is perfect!!!.. be happy always 😉
@@vishnuhasana9661 😉😉 yes bruh... cause people could see and make right choice be happy.✌✌
Love the novice rider perspective. As a noob myself I feel this is much more relatable than pros who race them for living.
Agree with this review. I own a 2019 R6 and I’ve ridden the new zx6.
The R6 has a very twitchy throttle , especially in A mode. The R6 is difficult yo drive slowly in the city due to the high and aggressive riding position and the touchy throttle. The zx6r is the better street bike and the R 6 is the better track weapon.
I've had the opportunity to ride them both as well and I agree, the 636 is more comfortable out of the box. The stance on the R6 is a bit more aggressive as mentioned, but not so much as to be a problem. I too would prolly opt for the 636 but in the KRT green. Both bikes are great though. I own a GSXR 600 btw, just so you understand my point of view.
I know this is ages old, but how do you feel about the Gixxer vs. the. Ninja? I’ve ridden the Gixxer and think it’s great, however I do want at least something with a quickshifter and more up to date.
I wasn’t expecting a really in-depth review but it was actually spot on
The 636 for me, just that extra grunt is reason enough and it's even 20% cheaper
I would choose the 636 for some street and track fun!
Can’t wait to see the Aprilia RS660 on the market and in you video 🤘
Enjoy the bike life guys
RS660 😍. Act, im afraid bout the price of rs660. Surely its gonna be premium.
@@littleace8967 i know..i hope its not ducati v2 premium...
@@Krayziedad enought for the street, back roads, and technical tracks. Unless you really want to kill yourself going all out in a straight line.
The ZX-6R is probably the best all around 600 SS. Since I rarely go to the track, I'd have a CBR650R.
Man i plan to buy cbr650r only thing thats keeping me is the insurance.
@@ClashLAW_Nis , are you in the USA? I can't imagine the insurance would be that much. I pay 14 bucks a month for full coverage on my CBR500R.
glsracer lucky you. I’m 26, live in europe. I looked at a 2010 gsxr 600 for a good price. Looked up insurance costs before i bought it. 2700usd in a year for only insurance that does NOT cover damage on your own vehicle. Big no.
@@HeyAddieImTojo it's not unheard of to pay 250 to 300 USD per month for insurance in the USA if you are young. Usually by 25 it's more reasonable. I'm in my 30s and a ZX-6R would probably cost me around 70 bucks per month for full coverage. It helps to have multiple vehicles as well. I have 4 cars and a motorcycle on my account and they know I can't drive them all at the same time so there's a lot of savings there.
@@glsracer your 50hp cbr?? cos thats relevent to 130hp bikes right?
Comparisson I've been searching for for months now. Ty for bringing it to us!
I've been shopping and doing reviews for 2 years waiting on $$, I'm glad too I've changed my mind numerous times! Lol
The ZX6R is amazing!!
Paid 8900 for my 2019 with abs. Check on cycle trader, deals are out there
Marcelo S Especially in orange
@@yucelguven4816 thats your opinion
Track focus = R6
Best of both worlds = ZX6R
People dont get a 600 for track focus these days tho. Just go to a 1k
@@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2 yeah cause they compensate for their lack of skills😂
The R6 does come with a quick shifter. It has starting in 2017. The R6 is designed as a track weapon and the ZX6R is more street focused. The R6 rewards the skilled rider but punishes you when you do not keep it screaming. If a rider misses a shift on the ZX6R the engine and gearing makes it far less punishing of a mistake. If you are a track focused rider the R6 has the most 600cc wins for a reason. If you are a street focused rider the ZX6R is better priced, more comfortable, and engine and gearing is better.
Yahto TV good right up very true
I consider your point of view but I hope now that stands not as for the Kawasaki's R&D for making the best of all 600-650 class superbikes.,& that's it. Considering the Power to Weight Ratio of them all, this ZX-6R dominates ,& when added with race kits then the 11 lb excess weight along with the tail lights and side light's all might add about 1.5 kgs or more & the silencer here is bigger with a Calatyst & made to meet the Euro 5 or 6 requirements, adding up more weight. But here the R6 needs to meet to the latest pollution standard's of Euro & Bharat VI Standards of India,& might be the reason why they have not launched their R6 in India since Yamaha's entry into India. I was also eager to buy this R6 but though after frequently enquiring them they have not assured to launch it in this competitive motor world as yet, Why ???
But at the ZX 6R at competitive price & more powerful engine than the R6 will dominate the track race also & the rider's skill is all set to make use of it's power to win the track races also, as for it's power to weight ratio is far better than any other 600 c.c bike's hopefully. But this year I'm sure that ZX-6R has some changes to it further than the 2019 model. See it, & you would go for this ZX-6R.
i was gunna say mine came with one and was reading since 2017 they did
@@sridharc8084 I am from the US where the CBR600RR and GSXR600 are still sold. In the US we have access to all the 600cc super sport bikes. They are all very popular here. The CBR and GSXR have a hard core following. Yes I am very aware of all the updates to the ZX-6R. I agree the ZX-6R is a better street bike than the R6 because of the gearing change, the softer suspension, and the ergonomics. But as I stated in my original post it is a more street focused bike than the R6. The R6 is a very track focused bike. But with that said the CBR600RR is the best street bike of all 4 of the Japanese 600cc bikes. It is the lightest and most comfortable. With the GSXR600 and 750 being a very close second in ergonomics. The CBR is the most balanced still to date. Still to date the CBR600RR and Yamaha R6 are the best track bikes. They have more wins/championships than any of the others. Yes the ZX-6R is a good track bike, it feels planted and gives confidence to the rider. Yes an average rider will feel better on a ZX-6R because of this. The softer suspension plus the good brakes. Yes the ZX-6R feels fast on the street because of the little extra low/mid range and the gearing change. But you are never in the low/mid range on the track, or at least you shouldn't be. The R6 is track focused and that way for a reason. You are fooling yourself if you think the ZX-6R is faster on track. Again the average rider that does track day for fun will probably enjoy the ZX-6R more, but a more skilled rider will go faster on the R6. Yes Yamaha has not upgraded from Euro 4 as it did that on the R1 this year. I fully expect all their experience with that to translate to R6 changes in 2021. Not only did they make those changes to the R1 but with no HP loss, meaning there is actually HP gain with engine changes and with a full system and tune you will see nice gains on the R1. Yamaha may have some nice surprises coming in the R6, maybe even a new motor. Honda is coming out with a new CBR600RR as well in 2021. Who knows when and if Suzuki plans on finally doing a long over due update on their 600 & 750. As to HP on all the 600cc super sports. You can get 120HP to the ground out of any of them. There is no wrong 600 to buy. It is all about what the rider wants and what makes them happy as they are all good.
quick shifter not standard. From yamaha r6 web page: "riders looking for an extra edge an accessory quick shift system can be installed ..."
R6 just looks so mean ❤
636 is soft as doodoo from the factory, soft even for the 150lb rider it's spring for. I put Racetech springs, low friction seals and new fluid in the forks, and did a Ktech re-spring and revalve on the shock for less than the price difference between these 2 bikes. Bike had been totally transformed. Brakes have way way more bite. The Kawi has a much roomier cockpit, you can slide back in the seat much more, and the power midrange isn't even close. My boy has a fully modded R6 and I'm heavier and with just a decat, slip on, and a tune he cannot keep up with the Kawi. Both great bikes, they just go about what they do much differently.
Very well put & no bias..I own a 2014 & agree with what being said to an extent.. Again, very well put without being fully bias towards one bike or the other.👌🏽
Both these are incredible.
I'd probably have the R6 for track.
And if i ever wanted a 600 street supersport I'd pick the 636.
thought supersports were litre bikes
@@tzovlask
Oh, you should learn motorcycling culture around Asian countries then :p
@@tzovlask litre class is Superbike. 600 is super sport
@@pravesh736 ah ok, thanks
@@tzovlask youre gonna hear 20,000 different definitions of supersports during your stay in moto land
I like the fact that they got a newbie to do this
what do you mean newbie? Isn't the guy a race driver?
I have a 2019 R6 and the thing you need to know.. If your under 80kg you will find out that the springs are a little to stiff as the R6 uses the R1 front springs exactly the same.
So the the issue is you have to dial out all of the front preload and compression. To get it to turn in and give you any real feedback.
So the first thing I did was drop the spring ratio to a 8.5 nm spring.
Makes a big difference and then you can stiffen up the front.. He's spot on about the brake is like a brick with feel so then we go into braided lines better lever motul RF600 brake fluid. And EBC pads...
To really get the brakes to preform throw a brembo 18/20 RCS mastercylinder.
Also another issue is the down change its pretty vague I use semi synthetic oil in 10 w 40 and makes a big difference for changing down..
Like anything it's different horses for different courses.
Bringing my brand new 636 home Friday
Take the Kawi. It's a no brainer. Less cost more power.
um zx6r cost abit more than r6 tho
but i would still go for kawi either way
@@TheKccorporation cost is dependent on where u are. The old r6 was cheaper for me but in my area the Kawasaki is cheaper this gen tho I am a Yamaha person between the two. Back made me go to naked sport bikes tho now, but I always loved the r6 sound. The r6 was always my dream bike before my back probs. Sad now that I could afford a newer supersport I can't take the sitting position. But I do love the ride of the naked sport bikes, just not the looks as much
@Johnny Steffy torque is nice though if you are going to do both Street and track. I think the r6 is a better track bike and I love the r6 motor, but it isn't novice friendly so for a new track rider I wouldn't suggest it. But for pure track bike r6 is my pick if u have experience
@@ndperson1 I like the r6 but if i had to daily i would choose the 636. The r6 Ergonomics is mean't for the track, not street riding so much.
it's not a no brainer, the R6 is fucking beautiful!!!!!!!!!!
Taking my R6 any day, love the 06-07 model, which I have, and wouldn’t trade it for the world, absolutely enjoy it
would you say the same about the following years ???
I love the R6 🤩my friend has a zx6r and its nice too
who leads ? 😅
I was one of the original Ninja 600R owners back in 1985 :) I paid a whopping $3,400 for it, got radar'd by a trooper at 153mph at about 1500rpm below redline, on level ground, and I think it coud have hit 156 at redline. And I really like the modern ZX-6R bikes :)
LandShark503 - ZX-14R Motovlogs ...What did the trooper have to say? 😂🍻
@@blipco5 :) I got real lucky! He was a motorcycle rider, too. He asked how fast I thought I was going, and I told him I stopped looking at 125mph, but told him it was probably only 132mph. He showed me the radar gun with 153mph clocked on it. I smiled and said, "Huh! I didn't think they were supposed to go that fast, I thought they topped out at about 149mph."
We chatted in his car while he ran my license and was asking all kinds of questions about the bike. I offered to let him ride it, and he had a hard time turning it down.
In the end, he told that he reduced the speeding ticket to 97mph because of the fact that I pulled over and stopped immediately when he flipped on his lights when I could have just kept going and disappeared. He was driving an old 1978 Plymouth Fury cop car.
He said it would let me avoid arrest and would save me a few points on my license, but he told me that I'd have to go before the judge.
I showed up for my court appointment, and the judge says the officer wrote me up for doing 79mph and asked how do I plead?
I thought he trying to trick me into perjury and told him I was written up for 97mph.
He looks at me and says, "Well, I'm reading this as 79mph. Unless you really WANT me to fine you for 97mph? The officer should have written more legibly."
I said, "No, sir. 79mph it is. And thank you."
He smacked his gavel, I paid my fine, and I got the heck out of there fast! :)
LandShark503 - ZX-14R Motovlogs ...Good story. I recently got the blue lights for going 97 in a 55 zone. The cop wrote me up for 84 because I too pulled over. He said after 20 above it was several hundred more dollars in fines. He also said that if I just stayed in my lane he wouldn't have pulled me over at all since he saw I slowed down once I saw him. (A sign of respect).
A few months later I had to outrun a state trooper who caught me doing triple digits in a 50 mph zone. (Triple digits they arrest you and impound the bike). I'm old enough to know when enough is enough. I sold it and bought a more mellow bike.
I love riding and it's best to do it in one piece. Ride well. 🍻
@@Land-Shark Landshark that's a hell of a story. I was a cop for 40 years and a motorcycle guy for 45 years now . I've cut more than a couple motorcyclist a break cuz they stopped like someone with a brain should. In my late sixties now but hope to get some track time on my CBR or Thruxton R as soon as covidd goes away
'03 ZX6RR 176MPH If I were to have tucked anymore than I did, I would have fused with the bike. My buddy was on an '03 R1 and he hit 191MPH. We ran out of road before we ran out of bike. When people say something around 150MPH on a 600cc, that's as fast as they want to go. Don't get me wrong, once you reach 150MPH it seems like you hit a wall, but there is more and you really have to dig for it.
BOTH BIKES ARE SO DAMN KILLER LOOKS KILLER SPEED KILLER PERFORMANCE FOR ME ITS A TIE BUT DEEP INSIDE ME JUST FOR ME YAMAHA R6
Absolutely love 600cc sportbikes properly involving to ride hard.
Can you ride HARD?
4 months ago I went into a dealership with my mind set on a new R6, that Yamaha blue just makes me melt. But I ended up purchasing the Zx6r😂 somthing about that bike just told me it was the better choice due to the fact I will be st. Riding. The Kawasaki was just a more friendly, but it no way does that mean it’s soft. One thing I absolutely hate about it is the exhaust! Absolutely terrible, I sound like moped. And they run a little hot. with that being said I’m glad with my purchase. But when I see a R6 I always cring a bit to kno I could of owned a beautiful blue bike🤤
jay M Do an ECU reflash and get a full exhaust, the reflash and full exhaust will get you even more power and will help the bike run cooler by having the fan come on sooner when temp hits 200 F.
Silly boy! Girls ride Kawas
I hear the forks and rear shock are really soft no matter the settings is this true or is it okay?
R6 anyday 💙 yes Yamaha!
Like it too.. but stone hard seats though! Shame
@@jeffroze5955 Watch motonosity's video on new seat fro R6. Comfortable AF
Azal Darain link to video?
R6 is not comfortable lol it’s tall cramped and no juice low mid range. Not practical against Zx6r much more useable power ALOT better for street. I own 2020 636 n my buddy own 2020 r6 n he’ll tell u same thing. R6 is a great bike tho I’m not knocking it at all.
The R6 is a race bike, set up for street riding. The ZX6r is a street bike you took to a track.
Every con you mentioned for the R6 is a pro for a racer, ever pro you mentioned for the
ZX6r is a con for a racer.
Kawazaki is a boss at corners, and lean angles
But with that big headlights kinda sucked the sharpness off the bike to end up looking like 250cc bike
Yamaha got me with their design honestly.
R6 for dedicated track bike.
ZX-6R for street use.
Both are great.
Kawa for me, easily 💚
1:30 the clouds look like its a huge planet right next to our planet
After a long time your comparison reviews are coming.. Awesome and keep going
I appreciate these videos. Been riding for a year and im always looking/comparing bikes to see what I should pick up next.
For street riding I'm looking at the Kawasaki z900 been out of riding a while but that bike looks great to me
Man, that music at the beginning is.... rough.
noobasdfjkl what’s the song name ?
@@AlexPerez-qe4tf
Artist: Audio-ology
Song: Roar Of A Lion
soundcloud.com/audio-ology/audio-ology-roar-of-a-lion
@@kzawada1674 Thanks man!
@@kzawada1674 BLESS 🙌🏼🙌🏼 appreciate it bro
😂
I’m a 66 year old dude ridden many bikes including harleys but fell in love with my 2017 ninja gets to over 100 miles an hour with ease no problems did it twice just to show others (non believers)
r6's design is miles ahead of the other one. and performance wise, its all about the rider.. you can kick even liter bikes ass in a race track if youre good enough.. so its r6 anyday..
I was really confused between these two and because of your report, I am able to choose one now.
I tried the 2019 636 and I fell in love with it immediately but now I want the R6 because my goal is to start learning on track with instructor, that's my passion but as a package in general I would choose the kawi, it's amazing.
Thank you very much.
Start with Kawi, when you become better rider and exploit it to the limit sell it and buy R6
God who is the DJ?! Hell of a songlist you got there.
This video was really helpful for me to choose my next bike!
Fantastic choice for shootout. Middleweight bikes shootout + Audiology music.... Good old days :)
With all said, judging solely by the looks, R6. Everything else counting in, Kawa is better choice, especially for the newbie rider.
If looks are a consideration, who do you choose? My dollar says Yamaha. The 636 is a damn fine machine, very confidence inspiring.
For a bike I'd be riding 99% of the time on the road, I'd go for the Ninja for sure.
Great comparison and the best place to do it. Can't go wrong with either bike.
R6 does have a quick shifter, not sure if you meant as a standard feature. Def has one though
Nice comparison. I hope to see these bikes in an actual race together with other 600's. I guess, someday, 636 will have a supercharger, too. Man, Kawi is really serious about producing monster bikes!
Easy decision: Want to have a nice track bike? Yamaha R6. Want to have a nice street bike? Kawasaki ZX6R
@Lexacy If you are a Fitness freak with great body, R6 could be comfortable .
Have a 2009 ZX6-R and love it. Will get a new one next year.
They're both great bikes. I have a 2019 ZX-6R. Both are way ahead of what Suzuki, and especially Honda has to offer at that engine size. I am an owner of Kawasaki, Yamaha, and Honda bikes. I think Yamaha gets the build quality nod, Kawasaki gets the power nod, and Honda is losing their standing due to a lack of updates. Suzuki has their 750 advantage. Get what you want people. All will make you happy.
what would you say is the quickest in a straight. in your own opinion
@@matteezy8915 My own personal best? I couldn't really say without going to a track (drag). I doubt I can get into the 10's with my ZX-6R because when the front tire lifts off the ground I get freaked out. I can launch it well and know how to slip the clutch just right (and the bike has traction control) so the problem isn't the bike. It's me. If you're comfortable doing wheelies, you can get under 11 with the bike. There's plenty of RUclips videos showing that.
@@matteezy8915 Oh, maybe you mean which bike. Definitely the Kawasaki ZX-6R (excluding the GSXR-750) is the quickest in a straight line and comes stock with a quick shifter and traction control. The ZX-6R cheats with the 636 cc engine so it's got about 5% more horsepower and torque compared to any 600 cc. The Yamaha may be the better track bike, though, but it costs quite a bit more. The Yamaha may also have slightly better build quality and their engines are bulletproof. Like I said, the Hondas are getting obsolete and are even more expensive.
R6 love it 😍😍😍
The last few years of testing is beginning to show how well all bikes are made. It is not an obvious choice anymore. I buy what I want and price may be as 3 on the check list. How the bike looks is my number one preference. I can adapt to any bike style. How does the bike make me feel riding it is my second check box. I do rely on professional reviewers to help evaluate bikes. I never go for car or motorcycle test rides. When I make up my mind, I click and buy on line and have it shipped.
The Yammie will feel lighter, quicker and more flickable as it is lighter, has wheel base that is shorter and a reduced steering angle. Perfect blend for a track day bike. Let’s face it as that’s what these are intended for. No ether of them are good for “commuting” on. Unless you know what you are doing and use them for a weekend bike in the twisties. 😜
Kawi is cheaper, and has more power. With the price difference you can have added parts, better brakes, better suspension and would still be faster on a track or straightaway pull
Jonathan Pontel, I agree. However for say track only being lighter and sharper with its stearing makes it better, much better suited to track days. Anyone can go fast in a straight line however cornering speed and flicking a bike from side to side only a few can master the art of race craft.
@@marcusgeorge1825 true that's why I stated doing pulls is more suitable for everyone as opposed to skill level on tracks. And you weren't wrong on the commuting part cause they are super uncomfortable for long distance even mediocre distance
Jonathan Pontel comfort on sport bikes is personal preference i commute on both a r6 and a zx6r daily and find each of them pretty comfortable
NathanDaniel how do you commute on two bikes daily. You must be one hell of a talented individual.
Why did Kawasaki go with the ninja 400 front end ? Absolutely ruins the premiumness of the bike.
I disagree. They only look similar from the side. If you looked at both bikes from the front the 636 is way more aggressive, with its massive intake
@@SpyvsSpy-yl9ip have you seen the headlights ?
@@animealpha4795 Yeah I have a 2019 636. The headlights look great. Very sharp and aggressive. Just my opinion
@@SpyvsSpy-yl9ip I don't know why but to me, the zx6r looks like a frog....
@@animealpha4795 Lol a very fast frog ! I almost purchased the 2016 yellow anniversary R6 but the one at my dealership had 3400 miles on it and for the same price i got a brand new 2019 636 with 1 mile on it. It was an easy choice. I love both bikes and yamaha will always be my 2nd favorite bike brand, but Kawasaki will always be my #1
Just bought the 21 Ninja 650. I have also rode an r6 so I completely agree with your comparisons. The R6 is very nimble compared.
Yamaha for the track, kawi for the street.
Haha the video which the Dr ordered. Thanks Adam.
WoW I thought you would talk about it in your channel!!
R6 and zx6r, your views on it...vdo chahiye vai🙂
Man can you make english subtitles for your yamaha r6 review, since no other Indian reviewer has covered it yet.
Adam or Ryan ?
How could you compare when the kawasaki has different tires compound..should have been stock to stock comparison..
I have the 19 zx-6r same color with a yoshi alpha exhaust. I think that the 636 is the best 600 but yamaha makes the best liter bike. Kawi for 600 class and Yamaha for 1000cc class
Jonathan Rhea would disagree with you. 5 times.
@@awnis001 can i have your opinions
I love the Kawi I own a 400 and 650 so Im kinda bias but DAMN is that R6 a sexy bike!
tnx for the info, now I can decide which will be my next bike
If you have no issues for the bugget easily go for owsome Yzfr6.... Cz R6 is more fun n attractive looks.. &... Sexies 600cc category bike
A bit strange how the whole first intro is him repeating himself a whole time over...
This is pretty cool. Most moto journalist are experienced and talk of details that a novice would never ever see, or feel, diluting conclusions about what is "good" for them. My take. Any bike you get from the East (big 4) today, will be a great motorcycle for you. Pick a color you like is what I say. It will be more motorcycle than you will ever need for many years. Don't let people talk you out of a 250 either. If that is where you feel you are, then do that. Learn to ride the wheels off of that 250 before you move forward in power. That means the foot pegs are worn down to two little big toes.
So much competition and great bikes to choose.
In my own experience the R6 is an easier motorcycle and made for the circuit, contrary to the 636 which is more comfortable for the street but (generally) it will be easier to take an R6 on the circuit than a 636, even so I raced on the same circuit with both and I had better performance in the Zx6r, even so the R6 is beautiful 😍
I daily my 2020 r6 it’s wild to me how many ppl say it’s so uncomfortable. I love the way the seating position is.
you mind me asking your weight n height ???
@@matteezy8915 5’11 & like 220 lol
Imma fat fuck okay
Kawa is the best bang for buck in the 600 class.
I love the kawasaki always alldays !!!!
I’m absolutely torn between which bike to get.
me too man
ive been searching for that intro song for the last 20 minutes and 0 luck. Anyone know what song that is?
My 2005 636 still has all the features todays 636 has, more power, minus the abs and traction control.
The 05 isnt making more power than a 13+ lmao. My 15 is making 127whp.
OK guys with over all consent which is best to buy. With dynamics and fairing also
I would personally go for the Duke 790 as it's always leading in the video 😁
Ajit Menon M That was the camera bike with GoPros mounted front and rear. 😎
i have both of them as my track toy the kawasaki aclerate harder out of the box and have better brakes the r6 handle better and is lighter on its toe if you chasing that tenth of second then r6 is probally slightly better it also have better top end but that beacuse of the long gearing the zx6r is probally faster for 90 percent of rider while r6 has more racing potential and better aftermarket mods
Kawi is the best buy for your buck! Plus, the cheaper Kawi encourages brand loyalty for future investments !!! American's are brand loyal to their grave on all types of vehicles!
Are the newer R6’s still really uncomfy?(mainly because of the wide seat)
i thought it was cuz of the short seat n not being able to slide back
@@matteezy8915 i dont know honestly. Probably a combo of wide tank and just being hunched over with a lot of weight moved toward the wrists.
@@kyore789 you’re most likely exactly right !!
That’s the exact opposite of what a longer wheelbase means in regards to turn in. Longer wheelbase means more stability at higher speeds and less so in low to mid speed turns. Especially with the heavier weight of the ninja vs the R6.
Good decision you have made in selecting ZX 6R as far better than the R6 (though this about 11 lbs less, but lacks in it's HP & power to weight ratio). ZX-6R passes the Euro-6 & Bharat -VI pollution standards requirements as of now, but the R6 has not yet passed these requirements. It's not just the 600 c.c bikes but even about six 2-wheelers 150 c.c scooters of Yamaha sales has wounded up so as to meet the above requirements in India. I don't know why the Yamaha India is lacking behind in meeting to the environmental certification requirements. Sad though 😯
ZX6R- biggest deal-maker is it's capability to generate torque below the powerband, making it a much more usable street bike. Biggest takeaway from this is the relatively downplayed 'slingshot' effect that's typical of a 600, which makes the biggest single difference in removing a novice's fear factor upon their initial season of riding. Add that to more open and relaxed ergonomics, and it's a sure winner for the everyday rider, new or otherwise.
R6- A far more track-focused and dedicated racing machine that takes advantage of a 600's high-RPM power potential, and thus shies away from generating torque down low to generate more power up top. Add that to the more aggressive rider triangle and you come away with a machine that's far easier for a novice track rider to get accustomed to, due to requiring less overall physical effort to achieve the same result.
Verdict?
Kawi's dominate the street for a reason, and Yamaha's swarm the track for a reason. The only question is where are you going to do most of your riding?
Side note: Kawi for taller riders (bigger than 5'7"/greater than 30" inseam), yamaha for shorter, more compact riders
the 600s have gotten to got damn high
They are "race" bikes...
@@fokuz02 there to got damn expensive 13k for a bike that makes 106 horsepower. 2k more gets you a left over 1000 gixxer 190 horsepower....duh
@@fokuz02 he's right. In 08 shit even in 2010 they had 600s brand new for 7-8k. All this mumbo jumbo shit you dont need like abs, quick shifter, etc etc... just to add $$ to the price point. On SHIT YOU DONT EVEN NEED!!!
@@phillippugh2161 you must have never ridden a 600 to full capacity. 600s are just as capable of race bike standards just like a 1k bike and were cheap speed 10 years ago and still is cheap speed today.
@@fokuz02 most will finance there new 13k toy . Another 1to 2k only adds about 10 bucks to your payment. there about the same weight only one makes almost twice the horsepower. your money do what you want . If I'm spending over 12k already why second guess my dission a year later
I’m going to pick Yamaha R6
How do these 2 compare with the daytona 675r
The 675 makes low end. It's a 3 cylinder. Totally different bike.
They don’t break down....
The r6 in my opinion look more modern but the 636 look more comfortable and less painful to ride long but i like the r6 desing more the ol kawi in my opinion look way better
Unfortunately you’re a novice. However that’s a great point to learn from. Track days can teach you road craft. Racing is a different category and will teach you much more. However to be a racer takes much more than ability alone. You need that 6th sense working 100% of the time and unfortunately only 0.001% of riders have that.
I wish R6 wasnt that expensive 😭
Agree whit you broth now whatabout s1000rr vs cbr1000rr-r sp 2020?
That's gonna be a rough battle
So comparingly which is best in engine maintainance. And durability..
Should have compared these 2 with Daytona
Both good bikes can’t go wrong with either !
Anywhere you can find a list of bike models and what category they fall under etc? The nomenclature is so confusing. “Ninja xxx” and many of them aren’t very related at all
I love the colour of the zx6r !!!!!!
1:30 , I'm sorry did you leave the tire spec sticker on the front wheel of the ZX-6R and then track it?!?!
Yamaha is designed to be a track bike, Kawasaki is designed to be a stunt bike. You always see people comparing Kawasaki to Yamaha on the track, But have you ever heard of anyone comparing Yamaha to Kawasaki as a stunt bike? So what does that tell you? Yamaha may very well. Be better than Kawasaki. On the track however Yamaha can't hold a candle to Kawasaki as a stunt bike, So if I was Kawasaki, I would say you may be slightly better than me in your field, but I'm way better than you in my field. Therefore It makes me a totally better bike.
I like Kawasaki and i have one but the r6 front end looks sick
I mean the best track bike a novice should get is whatever supersport you can find on the marketplace for less then 3 grand
Could the decision between these two bikes depend on the frame of each individual person?
Is R6 good form me, I'm a biginner. 5,57 and 63kg. Thanks.
R6 always!!!
Zx6r - Put 8mm shim on the rear shock mount and flick for days. 636 FTW
*I hate to be that guy but if you want a 600 for the streets Honda is the way to go*
What is the name of the opening song please
J. Lawrence did you end up finding it ? I got no luck