One other feature about the MJJC is that you can easily attach a bottle of straight product to the underside of the nozzle, just in case you want to foam a shampoo directly, with no dilution.
Great video. I also have the MJJC foam cannon pro and also a $15 cheap foam cannon from Amaozn with a swapped out 1.1mm orifice. By looking at the video, my Amazon foam cannon with the 1.1mm orifice has about the same foam consistency as that MTM. The MJJC definitely has thicker and richer foam in my tests also and it is my main foam cannon. I find that you can use shampoos that are usually not as foamy with the MJJC with great success since it foams them up really nice compared to other foam cannons.
Greatly appreciate this extensive review as one of my MTM foam cannons is failing bad and not sure why. Did the maintenance and everything. Just bought the MJJC. You got a subscriber. I think I prefer the 1.25 orifice. Still thick enough and pulls the dirt.
"If you're European", you mean "if you're the rest of the world"? Lol. Great review man! I know US consider this a "budget" foam cannon but I'm from Indonesia and this priced the same as my pressure washer lol. But maybe someday I will try this foam cannon.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. :) The physical quantity is pressure; bar, MPa, PSI, etc. are the corresponding units of measurement. Great review, and I hope the MJJC Pro V2 I bought performs as well as shown in the video!
Hi, thank you for the detailed review! I just watched this one and the Adams 2.0. About the stiff fitting, I have the same pressure washer and for me it is the Adams gun that make it hard to accept the 1/4” male part. Now I have a different brand gun and can insert the foam cannon or nozzles with barely any finger pressure. Just FYI :) thank you for the videos and happy holidays!
I believe that since you applied the MJJC foam first it of course was the first to move off the panel, the great thing about the MJJC is you could dial the concentration down making it foam like the MTM PF22.2, but you still cannot adjust the MTM PF22.2 to perform like the MJJC.
I brought a new Mjjc Pro yesterday and they no longer come with spare filters as I asked my retailer where they were, he said he checked the rest of his stock none in any of the boxes great cannon though 👍
I just bought this item MJJC . I used the mr pink soap ( 2 oz ) . Dewalt electrical pressure washer 2100 psi . The foam wasn’t thick wen I used it . I also changed the 1.1mm orfice .
As popular as that stuff is I’ve actually never used it, so I can’t personally speak to its foaming ability. However you probably just need to add some more product. CG products do foam good, but I’ve found you need to add more than what they say. Also, if you have a hard water, that can effect the foam.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Good to know about the hard water glad I have the water softener system . Any suggestions on the type of shampoo you recommend or that you use ? What about the brand that will not be diluted with water and connect straight to the MJJC?
@@mariaacosta7428 for good foam act citrus wash and gloss has always done a good job for me. I always add an extra ounce though ;) Carpro lift is good, although that’s a strip soap, Adams mega foam is good too. 3D super presoak is good too even at factory dilution. Also I think just about any soap will be good if connected straight.
Thanks for the extensive comparison video. Great details leading to the ultimate purchase of the MJJC. Very helpful. Also, what tracks do you have playing in this video? Love what I am hearing and need to find those as well. Thanks for your time and efforts out there. Keep it up!
Great video! I've purchased the MJJC Foam Cannon Pro V2 after seeing your video, and plan to use it to wash my car on a weekly basis. I've noticed that you fill the MJJC reservoir all the way to the top - how much do you consume to get through a standard SUV? How do you store the excess? Or do you throw the excess away?
Thank you! I’d say for a medium size SUV, depending on how heavy you go on the foam, but generally about half the reservoir should do a medium sized SUV. If your going to use it weekly the just store it in a place where it won’t freeze, and no need to dump out the excess just use the latter half the following week. If you’re going to store it for a long period of time then I would clean and flush it out good with distilled water and let it dry a bit, then store it. If you have extra product in the reservoir, and you plan on store it for a while, then just use up the product in the car, no point in dumping it down the drain.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Thanks for that reply. It`s something that reviewers seem to skip on. For the consumer, the amount it`s gonna cost/go through, is quite important. Great review 👍
I think MJJC is both a better foam cannon AND a better value. For the home enthusiast or pro-detailer alike, they would be smarter to just go with the MJJC. The MJJC also has that wide mouth which is a plus as well. MTM was a great cannon back when it first came out but MTM needs to up their game and invest in making version #3. They should take note of everything that MJJC has done to their cannon and put those features into their own V3 cannon. They should also incorporate the same feature as the Griot's Garage BOSS cannon with the inner thread which allows you to attach the smaller bottles directly to the foam cannon. That is a handy feature which I use on my BOSS cannon. The BOSS cannon is a great cannon too, similar to the quality of these two cannons.
I do have one question, does that "inner" thread inside the black cap on the bottom allow for smaller bottles to be directly threaded onto the MJJC Foam Cannon head like the Griot's BOSS foam cannon? That would be really nice feature if it did that. Would be a much better deal than the BOSS cannon at approximately $40 less! The pick up tube looks identical to the BOSS. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the same manufacturer of the MJJC Foam Cannon also makes the BOSS cannon for Griot's. They look very similar in design and the pick up tube looks identical. I know the little metering tips from Griot's do work in the MJJC pick up tube, I saw a different video that demonstrated it. The tube is real pliable and has the stainless ball on the end exactly like the BOSS cannon. The only difference to the BOSS cannon is that inner thread so if the MJJC allowed for that, that would be a great value over the BOSS cannon.
Dude, I totally missed that, I just tried it and yes, the MTM nozzle does have an inner barrel that will accommodate a smaller 16oz bottle to directly hook up a bottle of product! Thanks for that suggestion! It’s not threaded, but it slides on fairly snug.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Ok thanks. The Griot's Garage BOSS Foam cannon IS threaded which makes me think the same manufacturer makes the BOSS foam cannon because the cap assembly and pick up tube with that small silver ball looks identical. Griot's probably has some sort of "exclusive rights" to the inner threaded one so the manufacturer (if it is actually the same one) probably has to leave it unthreaded as to not piss off Griot's or infringe on some sort of patent or rights to that inner treaded barrel to accommodate the 16oz and 32oz bottles. If you do use it that way, get a set of METERING TIPS from Griots (they sell just the tips) which fit into that silver ball on the end of the pick up tube and will correctly dilute any chemicals directly hooked up underneath without having to pre-dilute them.
Two thing i think you also missed is that the cap on mjjc is plastic. And plastic to plastic fit is much better over time than plastic to metal fitting. Second, when storing both foam cannon. My MTM was always falling to it's side due to the narrower bottom unlike the MJJC who has much lager base. Anyway great review. I just place my order to the MJJC pro v2.
I did a test as well and the mtm has more suction power if you pour only soaps in the bottle turn the knob all the way to minus on both of them and you will see what im talking about
This is interesting considering JoshV's recent video showed the PF22 & MJJC performing nearly identically. The same soap was used at the same ratios of course. Interesting to see you got drastically different results.
Using the same ratios in the bottle, is actually not the right way of doing it. They are different lances, and they pull product at different rates. The MJJC pulls faster, which is not better, just different. This is in part because the MJJC was designed mainly for the consumer, where the MTM was designed for the pro market. This is also why the MTM has the narrow neck. That means you can fit the sprayer head to most bottles out there. If you want to compare the actual foam producing capabilities, you need to look at the total output ratio of soap and water. We use both and both have their place, but let me put it simply. The MJJC will pull 650 ml of product in the same time that the MTM will pull 425 ml. Again, that has nothing to do with quality or the like, they are just designed different. If you mix the product so that the output ratio is the same, the MTM will outperform the MJJC.
MJJC is Chinese made not European. Just read the box and instructions and you’ll see how bad the English is. Awesome cannon though!! Thanks for the review.
The price of foam guns is ludicrous! The one I use and have been using for nearly 2 years is a Chinese made model that I paid $25 for. It has all the same features as the name brand guns. It's rugged and delivers a nice thick foam.
@@checanet well I've seen a video of the two together and I must say that both foam equally good but that automatic mix feature of griot just knock the it out of the park. Just saying. The price to me is worth it.
Several reasons. If you’re using foam as a pre soak, a high alkaline shampoo can dissolve or at least loosen drier, debris and traffic film so it’s gone when you do your contact wash. If you’re not using it as a pre soak, and it’s just a basic neutral shampoo (which these are for the most part) the thick foam provides lots of lubrication so you severely lessen the risk of scratching or swirling. A pre rinse with just the pressure washer is good, but at a safe PSI, it won’t get everything off that an alkaline shampoo pre soak will prior to hand washing. Hope that makes sense.
@@bundles329 not at all… 3-5 minutes typically. If you’re in the sun a little less, but in the sun, you can always add more foam so it doesn’t dry also.
Dude, it's cool that you do these reviews, but you might want to think a bit more about how you execute the comparisons. They are designed differently, and even if you run 1.1 orifices in both, they pull product at completely different rates. The MJJC was from the start designed to be used with smaller washers in the consumer world, whereas the MTM was designed for the pro world first. Not because the washers are much more powerful, but because it gives you a longer work time with a full bottle. If you actually want to test how they compare in terms of foam, you need to use a mix that result in the same output water to soap ratio. Of course the MJJC will foam more if the mix in the bottle is the same. It outputs almost 30% more product. Also a quick note on the neck. That was designed that way so that we can use bottles other than the wide neck bottle. Many of us in the pro world do that all the time. Lastly, to say that you really should go by the manufactures recommendations is not true. That is only true if you know their recommended PIR. Unfortunately most of the soaps sold don't specify this. An example of how bad this is, look at Chemical Guys Honeydew Snow Foam. On the bottle it says to use between 1 and 3 oz for a 32 oz bottle. However, if you call them and speak to them as a pro in need of actual info, they will tell you that their product needs to be used in a 1%-2% PIR. For our MTM canons, that equates to 5 oz for 1% and 9.5 oz for a 2% PIR solution. And this nonsense is the same for many others.
Thanks for the input. I hear what you're saying, but at the same time, keep in mind that the info that you are putting out there is not known by the general public, and generally, all people care about is foam output. I use both these cannons interchangeably on a day to day basis, and i see no significantly longer working time with the MTM compared to the MJJC, if any. When the average person makes a purchase, they're thinking about foam output, not PIR. Even a pro, having more foam on the surface, creating more dwell time on pre-soak and lubrication for a contact wash, is much more important to me than saving a few cents on product. Shampoo is cheaper than having to buff out scratches or swirls. I never stated that that the MTM was a poor product, I use it myself, and I have found it to be more reliable in the long term. But when it comes down to dollars and cents, your average consumer is looking at cost compared to production, and for a person who is going to use a foam cannon once a month or so, again they're not concerned with PIR, they just want foam. Also, about the bottle necks. MJJC also has a provision under the cap to receive a smaller, standard bottle size if someone wants to hook the cannon directly up to a product bottle, plus the wide mouth reservoir opening. And if someone is running product straight from the bottle like that, then they definitely are not concerned with PIR. All in all, both cannons produced very nice foam. But if MTM is concerned with the product flow rate compared to other cannons, and PIR of various shampoos, then they should make that more known to the average consumer, especially if they're going to be making their product available to the average consumer.
All that thick foam is just a waste, it's just foam laying on top of foam. I prefer foam that just covers the vehicle and stars pulling straight away, thicker does not equal better.
Not exactly. Thick foam provides excellent lubrication during the hand washing process, almost eliminating the chance of scratching. I hear you about runny foam, but unless your not going to rinse the foam off, then it doesn’t really matter if the foam drags the dirt down off the car, it just matters if the soap loosens the dirt or not. If the foam has better dwelling time, the better the chance it loosens the dirt before the rinse, rather than just running off the car and not having enough time to loosen the dirt.
@@keithblacknell957 yes sir, that’s what I’m saying, when using as a pre wash, you’re going to rinse it any way, so a thicker foam will give more dwell time for the soap to loosen the dirt before you rinse. While a runny foam may pull some dirt off with it, it won’t get as much dirt because it’s not on their as long. After a prewash, I also use the foam again for a contact wash, it eliminates the bucket, and provides lots of lubrication. Cheers
@@TurnerMobileDetailing I understand what your saying, we're on the same wavelength however we'll have to agree to disagree as in my experience a thinner foam that runs pulls more dirt, I don't need it to dwell longer than a few minutes.
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One other feature about the MJJC is that you can easily attach a bottle of straight product to the underside of the nozzle, just in case you want to foam a shampoo directly, with no dilution.
Very good informative video
Most extensive review I've seen on the MJJC. Excellent work. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
REALLY a Great job, you help me a lot in making my decision on the foam canons. Thanks a LOT.
Great video. I also have the MJJC foam cannon pro and also a $15 cheap foam cannon from Amaozn with a swapped out 1.1mm orifice. By looking at the video, my Amazon foam cannon with the 1.1mm orifice has about the same foam consistency as that MTM. The MJJC definitely has thicker and richer foam in my tests also and it is my main foam cannon. I find that you can use shampoos that are usually not as foamy with the MJJC with great success since it foams them up really nice compared to other foam cannons.
Thank you. Yes I like the MJJC for the same reason.
Most excellent comparison on RUclips! Keep it up man, thanks a lot
The MJJC uses 3 filters, the foam filter is sandwiched between two metal mesh, a great system for creating more foam
Nice, thanks for that!
MJJC hands down ! I’m just wash my truck once a week, but I love this thing. I found that the best mixture for me is 2.5OZ soap / 500ML of warm water.
Greatly appreciate this extensive review as one of my MTM foam cannons is failing bad and not sure why. Did the maintenance and everything. Just bought the MJJC. You got a subscriber. I think I prefer the 1.25 orifice. Still thick enough and pulls the dirt.
"If you're European", you mean "if you're the rest of the world"? Lol. Great review man! I know US consider this a "budget" foam cannon but I'm from Indonesia and this priced the same as my pressure washer lol. But maybe someday I will try this foam cannon.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. :) The physical quantity is pressure; bar, MPa, PSI, etc. are the corresponding units of measurement. Great review, and I hope the MJJC Pro V2 I bought performs as well as shown in the video!
And I just realised that multiplying pressure by flow gives power, e.g. 10 MPa x 0.2 L/s = 2 kW.
Excellent review/comparison. Subscribed 👍
Great job, i love MJJC
MJJC killed it in every test. Huge difference with the Gold Class which was not really formulated to be a foaming shampoo originally.
I totally agree! I use it now as my primary foam cannon
Hi, thank you for the detailed review! I just watched this one and the Adams 2.0. About the stiff fitting, I have the same pressure washer and for me it is the Adams gun that make it hard to accept the 1/4” male part. Now I have a different brand gun and can insert the foam cannon or nozzles with barely any finger pressure. Just FYI :) thank you for the videos and happy holidays!
Thank you for the comment! I actually had the same experience when I switched from an Adam’s gun to a MTM gun.
I believe that since you applied the MJJC foam first it of course was the first to move off the panel, the great thing about the MJJC is you could dial the concentration down making it foam like the MTM PF22.2, but you still cannot adjust the MTM PF22.2 to perform like the MJJC.
I brought a new Mjjc Pro yesterday and they no longer come with spare filters as I asked my retailer where they were, he said he checked the rest of his stock none in any of the boxes great cannon though 👍
Wow that stinks, the filters last a while though especially if you’re not using it every day.
I just bought this item MJJC . I used the mr pink soap ( 2 oz ) . Dewalt electrical pressure washer 2100 psi . The foam wasn’t thick wen I used it . I also changed the 1.1mm orfice .
As popular as that stuff is I’ve actually never used it, so I can’t personally speak to its foaming ability. However you probably just need to add some more product. CG products do foam good, but I’ve found you need to add more than what they say. Also, if you have a hard water, that can effect the foam.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing
Good to know about the hard water glad I have the water softener system . Any suggestions on the type of shampoo you recommend or that you use ? What about the brand that will not be diluted with water and connect straight to the MJJC?
@@mariaacosta7428 for good foam act citrus wash and gloss has always done a good job for me. I always add an extra ounce though ;) Carpro lift is good, although that’s a strip soap, Adams mega foam is good too. 3D super presoak is good too even at factory dilution. Also I think just about any soap will be good if connected straight.
@@mariaacosta7428 check out my Summer of foam video from a few months back
MJJC 4 life!
Thanks for the extensive comparison video. Great details leading to the ultimate purchase of the MJJC. Very helpful. Also, what tracks do you have playing in this video? Love what I am hearing and need to find those as well. Thanks for your time and efforts out there. Keep it up!
Great video! I've purchased the MJJC Foam Cannon Pro V2 after seeing your video, and plan to use it to wash my car on a weekly basis. I've noticed that you fill the MJJC reservoir all the way to the top - how much do you consume to get through a standard SUV? How do you store the excess? Or do you throw the excess away?
Thank you! I’d say for a medium size SUV, depending on how heavy you go on the foam, but generally about half the reservoir should do a medium sized SUV. If your going to use it weekly the just store it in a place where it won’t freeze, and no need to dump out the excess just use the latter half the following week. If you’re going to store it for a long period of time then I would clean and flush it out good with distilled water and let it dry a bit, then store it. If you have extra product in the reservoir, and you plan on store it for a while, then just use up the product in the car, no point in dumping it down the drain.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing great, thank you for the detailed response! Can it store for about a month?
@@mrdunu7340 should be fine as long as the soap is a pretty mild soap, Ph neutral
@@TurnerMobileDetailing thank you!
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Thanks for that reply. It`s something that reviewers seem to skip on. For the consumer, the amount it`s gonna cost/go through, is quite important. Great review 👍
I think MJJC is both a better foam cannon AND a better value. For the home enthusiast or pro-detailer alike, they would be smarter to just go with the MJJC. The MJJC also has that wide mouth which is a plus as well. MTM was a great cannon back when it first came out but MTM needs to up their game and invest in making version #3. They should take note of everything that MJJC has done to their cannon and put those features into their own V3 cannon. They should also incorporate the same feature as the Griot's Garage BOSS cannon with the inner thread which allows you to attach the smaller bottles directly to the foam cannon. That is a handy feature which I use on my BOSS cannon. The BOSS cannon is a great cannon too, similar to the quality of these two cannons.
I do have one question, does that "inner" thread inside the black cap on the bottom allow for smaller bottles to be directly threaded onto the MJJC Foam Cannon head like the Griot's BOSS foam cannon? That would be really nice feature if it did that. Would be a much better deal than the BOSS cannon at approximately $40 less! The pick up tube looks identical to the BOSS. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the same manufacturer of the MJJC Foam Cannon also makes the BOSS cannon for Griot's. They look very similar in design and the pick up tube looks identical. I know the little metering tips from Griot's do work in the MJJC pick up tube, I saw a different video that demonstrated it. The tube is real pliable and has the stainless ball on the end exactly like the BOSS cannon. The only difference to the BOSS cannon is that inner thread so if the MJJC allowed for that, that would be a great value over the BOSS cannon.
I totally agree, MTM it kind of a dinosaur now, they need to update more than just the shape of their bottle.
Dude, I totally missed that, I just tried it and yes, the MTM nozzle does have an inner barrel that will accommodate a smaller 16oz bottle to directly hook up a bottle of product! Thanks for that suggestion! It’s not threaded, but it slides on fairly snug.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Ok thanks. The Griot's Garage BOSS Foam cannon IS threaded which makes me think the same manufacturer makes the BOSS foam cannon because the cap assembly and pick up tube with that small silver ball looks identical. Griot's probably has some sort of "exclusive rights" to the inner threaded one so the manufacturer (if it is actually the same one) probably has to leave it unthreaded as to not piss off Griot's or infringe on some sort of patent or rights to that inner treaded barrel to accommodate the 16oz and 32oz bottles. If you do use it that way, get a set of METERING TIPS from Griots (they sell just the tips) which fit into that silver ball on the end of the pick up tube and will correctly dilute any chemicals directly hooked up underneath without having to pre-dilute them.
@@joevanseeters2873 interesting, I’ll have to look into that.
Two thing i think you also missed is that the cap on mjjc is plastic. And plastic to plastic fit is much better over time than plastic to metal fitting.
Second, when storing both foam cannon. My MTM was always falling to it's side due to the narrower bottom unlike the MJJC who has much lager base.
Anyway great review. I just place my order to the MJJC pro v2.
I did a test as well and the mtm has more suction power if you pour only soaps in the bottle turn the knob all the way to minus on both of them and you will see what im talking about
I felt like the MTM bottle wasn't turned all the way it looked as if more water was coming out ...
Would love to see the head to head using adams mega foam. But this a great head to head comparison. Thanks for posting, good stuff
I've seen both foam cannons from reviews using the Adam's and the MJJC wins
This is interesting considering JoshV's recent video showed the PF22 & MJJC performing nearly identically. The same soap was used at the same ratios of course. Interesting to see you got drastically different results.
I couldn't find the video from him you're referring to, I'd like to see it, could you please send a link?
@@TurnerMobileDetailing ruclips.net/video/bxkDZpExMII/видео.html
Using the same ratios in the bottle, is actually not the right way of doing it. They are different lances, and they pull product at different rates. The MJJC pulls faster, which is not better, just different. This is in part because the MJJC was designed mainly for the consumer, where the MTM was designed for the pro market. This is also why the MTM has the narrow neck. That means you can fit the sprayer head to most bottles out there. If you want to compare the actual foam producing capabilities, you need to look at the total output ratio of soap and water. We use both and both have their place, but let me put it simply. The MJJC will pull 650 ml of product in the same time that the MTM will pull 425 ml. Again, that has nothing to do with quality or the like, they are just designed different. If you mix the product so that the output ratio is the same, the MTM will outperform the MJJC.
Hi very informative video, I have purchased the mjjc V2 after watching here in the UK. What trigger gun are you using for the comparison ?
Thanks! In this video I’m using the snub nose gun from Adam’s Polishes
MJJC is Chinese made not European. Just read the box and instructions and you’ll see how bad the English is. Awesome cannon though!! Thanks for the review.
You are correct, thank you. The term bar automatically makes me think of Europe.
The price of foam guns is ludicrous! The one I use and have been using for nearly 2 years is a Chinese made model that I paid $25 for. It has all the same features as the name brand guns. It's rugged and delivers a nice thick foam.
Nice
MJJC now sells this version for $89, yet still Chinese made.
@@mylifetune im based in South Africa. I paid R750 which is about 45USD.
How many hours per week do you use it?
New sub i have a adams premium foam cannon which worked well but i just purchased the mjjc
Cool man, thanks!
Do you think that it will be possible to swapped out the brass1.1mm orifice. for a stainless steel orifice?.
I guess, can’t say for sure
Can I use it with normal shampoo for cars?
Should be fine
MJJC F,C pro2 is the best foam cannon in the galaxy !!!
It just might be! 😉
Nope. Griots 'the boss' foam cannon is the best.
@@zonedoutentertainment4778 griot is the boss of the price only. MJJC the boos of the foam tick
@@checanet well I've seen a video of the two together and I must say that both foam equally good but that automatic mix feature of griot just knock the it out of the park. Just saying. The price to me is worth it.
Really well done video. 👍🏻
Thank you sir!
If u pre-wash it with the pressure washer first, why does the very thick foam matter?
Several reasons. If you’re using foam as a pre soak, a high alkaline shampoo can dissolve or at least loosen drier, debris and traffic film so it’s gone when you do your contact wash. If you’re not using it as a pre soak, and it’s just a basic neutral shampoo (which these are for the most part) the thick foam provides lots of lubrication so you severely lessen the risk of scratching or swirling. A pre rinse with just the pressure washer is good, but at a safe PSI, it won’t get everything off that an alkaline shampoo pre soak will prior to hand washing. Hope that makes sense.
@Turner Mobile Detailing Yes it makes a lot of sense. How long should I leave the foam on before rinsing off if u don't mind me asking?
@@bundles329 not at all… 3-5 minutes typically. If you’re in the sun a little less, but in the sun, you can always add more foam so it doesn’t dry also.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing Thank u 🙏🏾
Also what's this entrancing music playing over the foam footage? I'm talking about the music playing at 17:00 minutes in if that helps.
at 17:00 it's a stock audio clip called Tribal House
16:45 starts the comparison
Dude, it's cool that you do these reviews, but you might want to think a bit more about how you execute the comparisons. They are designed differently, and even if you run 1.1 orifices in both, they pull product at completely different rates. The MJJC was from the start designed to be used with smaller washers in the consumer world, whereas the MTM was designed for the pro world first. Not because the washers are much more powerful, but because it gives you a longer work time with a full bottle. If you actually want to test how they compare in terms of foam, you need to use a mix that result in the same output water to soap ratio. Of course the MJJC will foam more if the mix in the bottle is the same. It outputs almost 30% more product.
Also a quick note on the neck. That was designed that way so that we can use bottles other than the wide neck bottle. Many of us in the pro world do that all the time.
Lastly, to say that you really should go by the manufactures recommendations is not true. That is only true if you know their recommended PIR. Unfortunately most of the soaps sold don't specify this. An example of how bad this is, look at Chemical Guys Honeydew Snow Foam. On the bottle it says to use between 1 and 3 oz for a 32 oz bottle. However, if you call them and speak to them as a pro in need of actual info, they will tell you that their product needs to be used in a 1%-2% PIR. For our MTM canons, that equates to 5 oz for 1% and 9.5 oz for a 2% PIR solution. And this nonsense is the same for many others.
Thanks for the input. I hear what you're saying, but at the same time, keep in mind that the info that you are putting out there is not known by the general public, and generally, all people care about is foam output. I use both these cannons interchangeably on a day to day basis, and i see no significantly longer working time with the MTM compared to the MJJC, if any. When the average person makes a purchase, they're thinking about foam output, not PIR. Even a pro, having more foam on the surface, creating more dwell time on pre-soak and lubrication for a contact wash, is much more important to me than saving a few cents on product. Shampoo is cheaper than having to buff out scratches or swirls. I never stated that that the MTM was a poor product, I use it myself, and I have found it to be more reliable in the long term. But when it comes down to dollars and cents, your average consumer is looking at cost compared to production, and for a person who is going to use a foam cannon once a month or so, again they're not concerned with PIR, they just want foam. Also, about the bottle necks. MJJC also has a provision under the cap to receive a smaller, standard bottle size if someone wants to hook the cannon directly up to a product bottle, plus the wide mouth reservoir opening. And if someone is running product straight from the bottle like that, then they definitely are not concerned with PIR. All in all, both cannons produced very nice foam. But if MTM is concerned with the product flow rate compared to other cannons, and PIR of various shampoos, then they should make that more known to the average consumer, especially if they're going to be making their product available to the average consumer.
Dude do you work for MTM? Lighten up....good grief!!
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I don’t. Just don’t like reviews where one product is shown to be inferior for the wrong reasons.
You use 6oz of product in every foam cannon you use? That’s wasteful, 3oz is good enough
No, I was referring to when I use p&s pearl. In the rest of the video, I clearly state the different dilution ratios for the other soaps.
It's not a bad Cannon, but their Karcher adapters are terrible, nightmare to fit to a Karcher style pressure washer, avoid it like the plague!
Good to know, thanks for letting everyone know!
All that thick foam is just a waste, it's just foam laying on top of foam. I prefer foam that just covers the vehicle and stars pulling straight away, thicker does not equal better.
Not exactly. Thick foam provides excellent lubrication during the hand washing process, almost eliminating the chance of scratching. I hear you about runny foam, but unless your not going to rinse the foam off, then it doesn’t really matter if the foam drags the dirt down off the car, it just matters if the soap loosens the dirt or not. If the foam has better dwelling time, the better the chance it loosens the dirt before the rinse, rather than just running off the car and not having enough time to loosen the dirt.
@@TurnerMobileDetailing I always rinse foam down, then do a contact wash with soap. I thought the whole idea of foam is to use it as a prewash.
@@keithblacknell957 yes sir, that’s what I’m saying, when using as a pre wash, you’re going to rinse it any way, so a thicker foam will give more dwell time for the soap to loosen the dirt before you rinse. While a runny foam may pull some dirt off with it, it won’t get as much dirt because it’s not on their as long. After a prewash, I also use the foam again for a contact wash, it eliminates the bucket, and provides lots of lubrication. Cheers
@@TurnerMobileDetailing I understand what your saying, we're on the same wavelength however we'll have to agree to disagree as in my experience a thinner foam that runs pulls more dirt, I don't need it to dwell longer than a few minutes.
@@keithblacknell957 that’s cool man, whatever works best for you, so many ways of doing things. Thanks for chatting
good video apart from that freaking earache music
MJJC from European?
China people : 😂
You`d be surprised what comes from China 👍😉🤣
1000 ml is 1 ltr. Just sayin'😁
What did I say?
@@TurnerMobileDetailing you said 1000 ml which is the same as 1 ltr. I was just giving you grief brother. 😆😈
I just recently discovered your channel. I like your approach to detailing. I've been at it for almost 25 yrs. You and I are on the same page about so many things. I really like your content. It's delivered well and your info is concise and on point. Keep it coming!
Steve
Chandler, AZ
@@stevemclean5787 gotcha 😂
@@stevemclean5787 thanks man! I try my best. Nice to meet and hear from a fellow detailer! I love your screen name btw! 😉