I strongly recommend this game for solo gamers and those who like card games. It is a wonderful puzzle to solve. I gave it an 8/10 on BGG. If you are a D&Der, the one complaint is that the game feels repetitive and light on theme (rounds and rounds of fighting monsters followed by a final round of fighting lots of monsters).
This was an instant back for me. I picked up 2 copies, one for myself and one for an eventual gift for my brother. Looks very replayable and the 60 minute game time is huge for me. With little kids, it's hard to get stuck into something taking a lot longer.
Thanks for the playthrough! I almost want to consult your playthroughs before I decide to back a game because you've solidified a backing in one instance (this game), and helped me decide that a game wasn't for me (TEM). Keep up the hard work!
I just got my tracking information for Kickstarter fulfillment, and I am pretty excited. Watching your video again, to get a leg up on my first play - great explanation and presentation, by the way!
well thematically they are drawn to the fire from various original distances to the camp, so they would come one at a time; they might outpace each other but viewed from the camp site there are at most one or 2 "nearest". They are not standing in line, rather it's a radius. At least I don't have a problem with that. Thunderstone also uses this mechanic. I do have a lot of other problems with the game though.
This was a fantastic and entertaining playthrough. I just received mine so I'm pumped to play it and no joke, your run through just made me so much more excited for it
I saw Merchants of Magick, and i liked that game for its easy of how it works, but more tactics on how to combo, but then i saw this as well, and ended up pledging for both, plus expansion. We like coops, we like RPGs, and play mostly fantasy stuff, we have had our fair bit of camping ambushes, and if you really want you could do a game of this as one of those encounters, though it would add quite a bit of time, but you can also of course play it on its own, which we will.
A very good video. It would be fun if you put a stinger, short, music, segment, every time you have to do something really fast. Just looking for ultimate cuteness in an awesome game description. Thank you
I like the gameplay in this game, and D&D is not usually my thing, but I like the fire theme and how the bad dudes are lined up and you have to piece together your attack options. I'd like to play this solo. The inclusion of 8 sided dice is nice too, more games should use alternative dice. The 'exhausted' mechanic is nice as well.
I was curious about this game and after watching your video I'll be definately getting it. Seems great for group interaction, trying to find the best possible outcome. Keep up the good work!
This is probably the best runthrough video I’ve seen, in terms of format. The camera angles are great. You not only explain the rules as you go along, you discuss different strategies. I also love the under-cranked shots of the time-consuming mechanics, like drawing cards and rolling dice. Very awesome - keep ‘em coming!!
36:13 - Skeletons are (albeit accidentally) put on top of the graveyard and should have been put out in the queue the next round 45:16 - 7+4 = 11... At least it was when I was at school.
23:00 does the metal golem also protect against long shot? jon interprets it as No. 1:23:00 Jon was very lucky with the draw here, but prbly would have won nonetheless. Wizard is far too OP, especially curse.
Hi!! At 31:28 you use a 5 direct attack from WIZARD to directly defeat the WYVERN, which has 7 points of life... I guess I missed something there... ¿? Thanks for this great video!!
Do you have a rules reference for this? When I filmed this and sent it to the publisher they didn't note an issue here and my understanding was the serpents health value is always equal to the fire level no matter where it is. It's possible a rule changed between this prototype and the published version.
@@JonGetsGames I got it from the Unofficial FAQ in the Forums on BGG. Here's the extract from that doc. ; "Effects on cards in the Graveyard are disregarded unless the effect explicitly says otherwise. The Fire Serpent and Shade have no health on top of the Graveyard." Todd Walsh also confirms this about Fire Serpent in the linked thread: boardgamegeek.com/article/32403365#32403365
WOW! How did you get a copy? I’m still waiting for my “Set a Watch” pledge rewards from their Kickstarter 3 years ago! You must have bought a copy instead of pledging on Kickstarter. I’m still waiting for my pledge rewards and they have an expansion already.
I am a little perplexed on the sharpshooter ability... Don't we need to use a die in order to activate it once? Is it an ongoing ability? (I haven't played the game physically yet).
This didn't have any effect on game play but at 32:00 you say that the zombie horde would have a total health of 8+7 = 15. I believe the zombie horde would only have 13 since the dragon has - 2 in health due to the Frost Caverns location. 🙂
Perhaps you meant Dungeon of Darkness the card game? boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/229909/dungeon-darkness In DoD your goal is betting the amount of gold or die. There is no fire to keep track of. The Stairs are in a random position, in SaW it's always 8 locations. DoD has almost no attrition, you actually gain items that you can use. DoD uses a single hero (out of 3, a thief, fighter or wizard), SaW uses always 4 (unless that changes in future). DoD has a boss, the dragon, SaW has not, here the fire is just a fire. DoD can also do without dice, the 3xd6+1xd20 can be easily simulated by shuffling the cards and painting 1d6 on each. Same for d20. I don't see how to do that practically with SaW.
@@kosterix123 no I meant It looks like a board game version of Darkest Dungeon, originally on the pc. Which uses a torch light system and a line of monsters and heroes that can attack at range or melee.
This is exactly what i was thinking, the importance of light, a party of 4, enemies arranged in a row. I'll be backing this in the next few days when I get cash.
2 questions at 46:56 you revealed the underground tomb that said reduce the creatures revealed by one but let's say you only had one firewood what would happen? question 2 what if you go above 15 firewood?
I am not sure about your first question, but am assuming you can always see at least 1 creature otherwise the game would likely break. I believe you don't get any further firewood after hitting 15.
I did a late Deluxe pledge and bought the game, (it became expensive but It looks very promising) 25:55 you mean without spending a dice? (and there for it will become exhausted?)
If I got the rules right, you needed to exhaust one more card when the Minotaur showed up. One for the summon and one for the Minotaur going to 1st position, but you exhausted only one?
35:01 you didn't flip the ability to reroll die, secondly if you kill the cultist, then kill the two undead at the same time would they not go into the graveyard in the order they were defeated and if simultaneous they go into the graveyard in the order you were facing them? That would mean you'd be stuck with the skeletons as the top card in the graveyard. There were actually a number of times you defeated a monster and placed it under the previously killed monster. Seems like cheating as the order of the graveyard seems pretty important for certain monsters.
The Cleanse Undead ability states that you can put the creatures into the graveyard in any order you want. It's true that I accidentally put the Skeletons on top here and didn't notice, sorry for adding confusion there.
Kindlesmith80 You always reshuffle the graveyard when the creature deck is empty, so you'd simply shuffle the rest of the cards and add them after the skeletons.
The skeletons, would they continually keep going to the front of the line if they are the very last monster in the encounter because when they get killed they keep getting put to the graveyard (not deck)? Infinite respawning skeletons.
Kindlesmith80 You would only have them respawn once. In this scenario you kill them last and they go onto the graveyard. In the next location you draw them into the line from the top of the graveyard and then since you have no creatures in the deck you reshuffle the graveyard and deal out your line. Then odds are very good you will kill the skeletons early since they are at the start of the line, so they will go into the newly empty graveyard before the rest of the creatures you defeat this round which buries the skeletons.
I expect you'd replace the summon with a Unhallowed and then defeat it, but I'm honestly not 100% sure. I'd suggest writing a post on the BGG forums about this.
This is my favorite RUclips channel right now and your videos are very well done and great to watch. Continue the great work!
This is really great to hear, I'm glad you've been enjoying them :)
He does a great job for sure.
I strongly recommend this game for solo gamers and those who like card games. It is a wonderful puzzle to solve. I gave it an 8/10 on BGG.
If you are a D&Der, the one complaint is that the game feels repetitive and light on theme (rounds and rounds of fighting monsters followed by a final round of fighting lots of monsters).
This was an instant back for me. I picked up 2 copies, one for myself and one for an eventual gift for my brother. Looks very replayable and the 60 minute game time is huge for me. With little kids, it's hard to get stuck into something taking a lot longer.
Thanks for the playthrough! I almost want to consult your playthroughs before I decide to back a game because you've solidified a backing in one instance (this game), and helped me decide that a game wasn't for me (TEM). Keep up the hard work!
The Bear has to be an MTG reference!😂😂 Awesome video. Love this game too.
Thank you for this! Great video; so detailed but still engaging! Would have thought you had designed the game yourself! Just bought it thanks to you!
Set a Watch: I’m glad this video wasn’t about adjusting a Timex. Seriously, looks like a fun game.
I just got my tracking information for Kickstarter fulfillment, and I am pretty excited.
Watching your video again, to get a leg up on my first play - great explanation and presentation, by the way!
I hope you enjoy your copy :)
The monsters are so well behaved,all waiting in line to attack you!
well thematically they are drawn to the fire from various original distances to the camp, so they would come one at a time; they might outpace each other but viewed from the camp site there are at most one or 2 "nearest". They are not standing in line, rather it's a radius. At least I don't have a problem with that. Thunderstone also uses this mechanic.
I do have a lot of other problems with the game though.
@@kosterix123 what other problems are there?
I really like your clear and concise style! This is the most helpful style of review and playthrough. Thank you!
This was a fantastic and entertaining playthrough. I just received mine so I'm pumped to play it and no joke, your run through just made me so much more excited for it
Awesome, I hope you enjoy it :)
I saw Merchants of Magick, and i liked that game for its easy of how it works, but more tactics on how to combo, but then i saw this as well, and ended up pledging for both, plus expansion.
We like coops, we like RPGs, and play mostly fantasy stuff, we have had our fair bit of camping ambushes, and if you really want you could do a game of this as one of those encounters, though it would add quite a bit of time, but you can also of course play it on its own, which we will.
A very good video.
It would be fun if you put a stinger, short, music, segment, every time you have to do something really fast.
Just looking for ultimate cuteness in an awesome game description.
Thank you
Reminds me a little of Tiny Epic Defenders. Significant differences, clearly, but some similar vibes.
Jon - your channel is easily in my top 3! Love it!
The best review and teaching gameplay.
53:30 - If the zombie horde 's health is 7 from the card and 8 from the graveyard totaling 15, shouldn't the forest giant have 8+8+7=23 of health?
Good catch! I needed to handle that situation differently it seems. I've added a note to the subtitles.
I like the gameplay in this game, and D&D is not usually my thing, but I like the fire theme and how the bad dudes are lined up and you have to piece together your attack options. I'd like to play this solo. The inclusion of 8 sided dice is nice too, more games should use alternative dice. The 'exhausted' mechanic is nice as well.
more games should use no dice at all.
I was surprised at the d6s alongide d8s at first, but agree that it seemed to work well here.
I was curious about this game and after watching your video I'll be definately getting it. Seems great for group interaction, trying to find the best possible outcome.
Keep up the good work!
This is probably the best runthrough video I’ve seen, in terms of format. The camera angles are great. You not only explain the rules as you go along, you discuss different strategies. I also love the under-cranked shots of the time-consuming mechanics, like drawing cards and rolling dice. Very awesome - keep ‘em coming!!
Thanks Jim, I'm glad you found it useful :)
36:13 - Skeletons are (albeit accidentally) put on top of the graveyard and should have been put out in the queue the next round
45:16 - 7+4 = 11... At least it was when I was at school.
Good catches, I've added klingon subtitles for both.
23:00 does the metal golem also protect against long shot? jon interprets it as No.
1:23:00 Jon was very lucky with the draw here, but prbly would have won nonetheless.
Wizard is far too OP, especially curse.
Gameplay looks great, and the artwork is just beautiful! I consider backing game on kickstarter. Anyway, as always great video.
Great video! So glad i backed this game
Hi!! At 31:28 you use a 5 direct attack from WIZARD to directly defeat the WYVERN, which has 7 points of life... I guess I missed something there... ¿?
Thanks for this great video!!
1:12:27 When the fire Serpent is in the Graveyard it has no health so the Zombie Horde would only be 7.
Do you have a rules reference for this? When I filmed this and sent it to the publisher they didn't note an issue here and my understanding was the serpents health value is always equal to the fire level no matter where it is. It's possible a rule changed between this prototype and the published version.
@@JonGetsGames I got it from the Unofficial FAQ in the Forums on BGG. Here's the extract from that doc. ;
"Effects on cards in the Graveyard are disregarded unless the effect explicitly says otherwise.
The Fire Serpent and Shade have no health on top of the Graveyard."
Todd Walsh also confirms this about Fire Serpent in the linked thread:
boardgamegeek.com/article/32403365#32403365
Great game and great explaination! Thank you!
What an amazing playthrough! Your channel is just awesome. ^^
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
You can't use a dice from an adventurer A to activate an ability on an adventurer B. Correct?
Unfortunately it's been too long since I made this to remember rules clarifications like this, sorry.
WOW! How did you get a copy? I’m still waiting for my “Set a Watch” pledge rewards from their Kickstarter 3 years ago!
You must have bought a copy instead of pledging on Kickstarter. I’m still waiting for my pledge rewards and they have an expansion already.
This was filmed using a prototype and this video was part of the original Kickstarter campaign.
great play through! Looks fun
Around 54:00, why didn't you add the hydra to the back of the line?
Unfortunately it's been too long since I recorded this to remember specific rule questions like this one.
awesome video as usual :D thank you!
I am a little perplexed on the sharpshooter ability... Don't we need to use a die in order to activate it once? Is it an ongoing ability? (I haven't played the game physically yet).
Oh... You can use it once per round (free) without the need of a die.. am I right?
Yeah, no die needed. You "pay" for it by subtracting one hit, which means you do one less damage.
This didn't have any effect on game play but at 32:00 you say that the zombie horde would have a total health of 8+7 = 15.
I believe the zombie horde would only have 13 since the dragon has - 2 in health due to the Frost Caverns location. 🙂
Ah yes, good catch. I'll add a note to the subtitles, thanks!
@@JonGetsGames happy to help... your videos are a huge help for me when learning the game. Great job👍🙂
This looks like Darkest Dungeon the board game, which is a good thing. Have already Kickstarted.
Perhaps you meant Dungeon of Darkness the card game? boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/229909/dungeon-darkness
In DoD your goal is betting the amount of gold or die. There is no fire to keep track of.
The Stairs are in a random position, in SaW it's always 8 locations.
DoD has almost no attrition, you actually gain items that you can use.
DoD uses a single hero (out of 3, a thief, fighter or wizard), SaW uses always 4 (unless that changes in future).
DoD has a boss, the dragon, SaW has not, here the fire is just a fire.
DoD can also do without dice, the 3xd6+1xd20 can be easily simulated by shuffling the cards and painting 1d6 on each. Same for d20. I don't see how to do that practically with SaW.
@@kosterix123 no I meant It looks like a board game version of Darkest Dungeon, originally on the pc.
Which uses a torch light system and a line of monsters and heroes that can attack at range or melee.
Wow, what a great idea. Darkest Dungeon the boardgame. Epic
This is exactly what i was thinking, the importance of light, a party of 4, enemies arranged in a row. I'll be backing this in the next few days when I get cash.
2 questions at 46:56 you revealed the underground tomb that said reduce the creatures revealed by one but let's say you only had one firewood what would happen?
question 2 what if you go above 15 firewood?
I am not sure about your first question, but am assuming you can always see at least 1 creature otherwise the game would likely break. I believe you don't get any further firewood after hitting 15.
thanks for answering
I did a late Deluxe pledge and bought the game, (it became expensive but It looks very promising)
25:55 you mean without spending a dice? (and there for it will become exhausted?)
Ah yes, I meant dice instead of card there sorry about that. I hope you enjoy the game :)
I always wondered what the guy from Gremlins was doing now!
Hey Jon, why did you stop releasing regular reviews?
You can see the reasons why in my vlog here: ruclips.net/video/TeW7P6UXfGc/видео.html
I see. Cool. Thanks for your content and hope you're having a better time :D
If I got the rules right, you needed to exhaust one more card when the Minotaur showed up. One for the summon and one for the Minotaur going to 1st position, but you exhausted only one?
I believe I did exhaust 2, I just talked a bit between them which may have obscured that.
Ah yes, sorry I play through twice but still manage to miss it:) Thank you for the reply and the video:)
35:01 you didn't flip the ability to reroll die, secondly if you kill the cultist, then kill the two undead at the same time would they not go into the graveyard in the order they were defeated and if simultaneous they go into the graveyard in the order you were facing them? That would mean you'd be stuck with the skeletons as the top card in the graveyard.
There were actually a number of times you defeated a monster and placed it under the previously killed monster. Seems like cheating as the order of the graveyard seems pretty important for certain monsters.
The Cleanse Undead ability states that you can put the creatures into the graveyard in any order you want. It's true that I accidentally put the Skeletons on top here and didn't notice, sorry for adding confusion there.
Another question, if the skeletons are the last card and on top, does that pretty much signify game over?
Kindlesmith80 You always reshuffle the graveyard when the creature deck is empty, so you'd simply shuffle the rest of the cards and add them after the skeletons.
The skeletons, would they continually keep going to the front of the line if they are the very last monster in the encounter because when they get killed they keep getting put to the graveyard (not deck)? Infinite respawning skeletons.
Kindlesmith80 You would only have them respawn once. In this scenario you kill them last and they go onto the graveyard. In the next location you draw them into the line from the top of the graveyard and then since you have no creatures in the deck you reshuffle the graveyard and deal out your line. Then odds are very good you will kill the skeletons early since they are at the start of the line, so they will go into the newly empty graveyard before the rest of the creatures you defeat this round which buries the skeletons.
What happen if you Long Shot a Summon?
I expect you'd replace the summon with a Unhallowed and then defeat it, but I'm honestly not 100% sure. I'd suggest writing a post on the BGG forums about this.
heal should also be 6+ for the camp phase because some heroes have 8 sided dice
I believe it is actually exactly 6 for the heal, the d8 players still have to use a 6 to use that ability.
Doesn’t really seem like a player can ever lose. The check map is kind of weird.
Looks like all the decisions are braindead easy. The last round was painfully easy with the most boring ending I've ever seen.