Huohuo VS Luocha is more or less high ceiling vs low floor. Huohuo at the fastest will normally get you a 3 turn ult (funnily enough same turn as tingyun), and that is RNG to get hit once, just put her in the middle of the team and against most bosses she’s liable to get splashed at least (also foxian Aggro /s). If your not crazy and to try and minmax this stuff, Then on average every other ult she accelerates by 1 turn (SW E1 is like the biggest exception since she can “easily” ult every other turn, and barely ult every turn), unless you ult slowly like Luka who benefits every ult. As with just doing normal things her ult is 4 turns (you have ERR rope right?). Meanwhile compare the mess above to just letting Luocha do Luocha things. I skipped luocha so I’m glad to have huohuo, but she has caused my OCD to go into overdrive on Min maxing pointless things. Unless MOC 11 and 12 are really scary why bother trying to hit the ceiling when the floor already is standing above the content.
Trying to get Huohuo on a 3T ult is extremely conditional with the common AEA rotation, not only she needs to be hit once or have her trace passive trigger a few times, but also requires 36.4% ERR at the very minimum for 3T ult, otherwise its gonna be a 4T ult for the most part
While its true that Luocha is very good, HuoHuo is also. I very often get my Ult (Sig LC, no ERR Rope), heal 3.7K with HuoHuo, have no Debuff problems on my Team anymore and also just enjoy destroying anything in MoC. Sure, many people do have Luocha BUT many do not. For those who only had Bailu, Natasha or Lynx, HuoHuo is an insane upgrade.
I don't really care about Luocha vs HuoHuo because she's my 2nd healer after Natasha lmao. I got no Lynx, Bailu, or Luocha so i'm very grateful for pulling HuoHuo at low pity. Now i have the motivation to try clearing MoC. For Luocha vs HuoHuo though if i really have to compare, my rule of thumb is if you want a reliable heal, go for Luocha, if you want cleanse & buff, go for HuoHuo. There is no reason to compare them when they both does different things except healing.
I never regretted in pulling for luocha. His healing is high enough for me to survive hard content. Nevertheless, Huohuo is good for those who skipped luocha and fu xuan banner
Huohuo has been helping my team a lot now because I only had bailu to help me before when it comes to sustaining the entire team. Got her on soft pity and got lucky with one ten pull on her light cone. Huohuo unlimited cleanse works helps me survive. I don't have luocha since I chose SW the last time I played and recently got back to HSR
14:23 For the Tingyun thing, try putting Jingliu on slot 3. Her Ai scans from 4 to 1. I had the same problem of her charging Pela and not Kafka and that seemed to fix it.
She is really good but you need to manual her cause her auto battle isn't ideal. Most like using Luocha cause auto-battle with him is braindead, you don't need to do anything. I don't like using auto battle cause it makes you complacent. Right now the game is easy but if the devs decide to add much harder content & fights i don't think auto battle will be ideal.
her and luocha is really good but i think shes way better in some situations/team comp but doesnt mean luocha is not as good as her, theyre in the same level lol
@@gabsjr i just think a lot of content creators over hype her energy regen when it isn't even that much and keep saying she is a must pull due to her attack buff and clense. Which I think is a lil irrisponcible. The value she adds to an account is determined on what units you have already. I feel like if you already have luocha or Fu Xuan and you already have an invested natasha, lynx or bailu she is not a must pull.
@@TheJasperMage well, in my experience I had a Nat very well geared and Luocha. Decided to try my 50/50 cuz she’s cute. The difference she made in my Jingliu team is GIGANTIC (JL, Tingyun, Pela and now her) She give energy to Tingyun and Jingliu. Jingliu is perma ascended basically.
I like everything about her kit but Luocha got me addicted to off-turn healing. I gotta basic attack for DHIL man I ain't using a whole skill point to heal.
He gets it, man. He do. He gets straight to the heart of the video by answering the most important questions and then explain it further so the important dump is easier for consumption❤ But it’s probably cuz he’s hilarious, him and his chat and editor😂 I love your videos Code❤
This is Huo's biggest problem in general, imo. Well, a few things: 1.) Her auto-battle sucks, ESPECIALLY if you have E1 like I do. She doesn't take advantage of it at all. She won't throw it up for speed tuning your group, and if the enemies start smacking your team and her turn isn't up, you're not getting healed on your teammates turns. 2.) If a character decides to get focused, she can do nothing. If it isn't her turn and you don't have Fu Xuan on your team, they can very easily die. I did a solo sustain Huohuo for fun, my pela got to 65% HP, Huohuo's turn came up...and she didn't heal @ 3 skill points available. Pela promptly died right after. Thanks, Huohuo. 3.) Luocha's cleanse and Huohuo's are both tied to their skill...but Luocha gets free casts of skill interrupting enemy turns which does, a lot of the time, coincide with a character going under 50% HP also being debuffed. The full heal and cleanse is absolutely a godsend and happens when you need it. 4.) Luocha can remove enemy buffs. I LOVE Huohuo. If you wanted her for the energy regen, she's fantastic. The attack buff isn't the greatest buff possibly given, but it's still more useful than Luocha's E1. But if you don't manual battle Huohuo is a lesson in frustration. Her AI is dogshit, whereas Luocha is literally his voiceline: "Ha! Ha! Haa!"
@@AwefulWaffle88Huohuo’s cleanse isn’t completely tied to her skill though? Her skill also has cleanse but her talent makes if to where she can cleanse whenever a character’s turn starts or they use their ultimate as long as she has charges of her talent. Yeah you have to use her skill to activate her talent but the ideal way to play her in the first place is to skill basic skill to take advantage of her talent’s healing and cleanse. Luocha is definitely better at healing but Huohuo is way better at cleansing.
I've been using Jingliu, Blade, Pela, HuoHuo team coz I ticked my guarantee with HuoHuo in 20 pulls 😂 And also, damn that team is very fun(Jingliu's syzygy health drain, HuoHuo's small tick heal, Blade's passive FUA, and Pela's all enemy defense shred is just mayhem/Tug of war on health for both teams😂)
Huo Huo auto battle in general needs a rework. Her heals go for the one with the least HP like most healers, but often times it would be more ideal to manually choose because sometimes she'll only heal 2 people where she could've healed 3.
As a DHIL main I’m still pulling for Luocha even after getting HuoHuo. HuoHuo just ain’t SP friendly enough for him. HuoHuo will be glued to my Jingliu though.
Huohuo is another futuristic character. Her energy recharge would work best for units like argenti since he has a high er cost and for future characters who might have the same kit as argenti.
I remember when Luocha first came out community dished him for not having emergency heal button. What is the difference from Huo2? She also heals only from skill + continuous heal. One point to bring up, Luocha can abuse Abundance blessing in SU - 45% recover SP everytime ally heal - there are also Def, spd, buff, etc His abbyss make any allies who attacks heal. Huo2 also OP, her ult can save one turn rotation for dps / harmony. Just pick ur poison 😅
Fun fact: "Abyss Flower" is also the name of a "Divine Key" weapon in Honkai Impact 3rd. It's the choice weapon of Durandal in the game's story, but before her, Kiana's mom, Cecilia, used that weapon as her signature weapon. If you've played enough of Honkai Impact 3rd, you probably know what weapon type it is, considering the fact that you can equip it on Durandal, and all Battlesuits of a single character you equip the same weapon type to. All of Kiana's Battlesuits you equip twin pistols to, wherever she uses that weapon type in gameplay or not, for example.
Comparing Huohuo with Bailu, it's obvious who is better at restoring HP and cleansing. But Bailu has the unique ability to resurrect a fallen character and her healing through ult removes the reliance on skill points to heal. Both of which are very handy in some fights like Phantylia.
Hey 3:17 !?! No Slander against JY, bro can finally do dps dmg bcs of the new relic sets now (e0s0 70k dmg on single enemy for 10 stack follow-up atk and no support), Bailu also in the team for emotional support, also for one-shot res.
The reason why tinyun is giving blade energy is she is splitting buffs. Blade is 90% hp scaling just like you said in your guide so she does her skill on jinglu then she has her burst so she splitting buffs for both dps on your team
how it work the speed buff from her E1? It only buff the base speed or the total speed with the boost of the relics? I was thinking to farm glamoth for blade and jingliu if it boost the total speed.
even with 130+ err she's still so slow to get her ult back. her and danil have the same cost but he charges it up in like 3 turns with 100% err while it takes huohuo like 4+ with 130
I think the biggest problem with Bailou is that he Splash Heal is random, she once healed a full HP kafka TWICE. I feel like Houhou is what they tried to do with her but failed so they just remade her
Seeking advice! I have Fu Xuan and just got Huo Huo (also Bailu, but she’s finally been benched lol) & I’m trying to figure out where to put them… Which one of them should be on my Kafka dot team & which one on my Blade team? (I also just got Clara, so maybe one would pair better with her?) Thanks in advance if anyone does answer ♡
I have both Luocha and Huo Huo. I wanted Huo Huo because she's cute and just because second healer. And yea, I'm too used to Luocha healing when it's not his turn but I do like Huo Huo too. It's better though to yea just manual battle with Huo Huo, but she's still strong as a healer and I love her
All I can say Im happy she came home to me Im desperately need SUPPORTS. I can do manual in other Phase I leave my JingYuan kill the rest :). I have so many DPS in my account with Lightcones that I don't have SW :( And I'm praying to get Bronya. Welt, where are you? I need you to accompany dragonheng
If you prefere one over the other (design and personnality wise), then you could pull for either. They both get the job done. However, if you want to build a solid team, then you might consider how SP hungry your DPS and supports are. For DHIL, Seele (if you're not going for mono quantum) and I'd argue even blade, Luocha is the best pick since his kit just synergizes perfectly with them. Huohuo is very good and maybe she'll find better utility with future DPS and team comps. Personnaly, if you can clear decent amont of content with your current healers, then I'd advise you to wait for Luocha. He is the most valuable pull you can ever make in this game imo.
Huohuo is better than luocha 90% of the time. Luocha is still a crazy good unit tho so if you already have him it’s unnecessary to pull for her. Huohuo is only a must pull if your only sustain is bailu or the 4 star healers
Ruan Mei any day, cuz SW can be subbed by pela if u are looking for def shred. Current top tier hyper carries i.e DHIL and Jingliu dont care weakness break so SWs value as weakness implanter is diminished, shes good to have but the current best hyper carry comps dont use her.
@@insaniaaa1627 why is she good for dual dps? I’ve checked her now I don’t remember a lot but I think she increases speed (?) break effect, maybe break efficiency and increases the turns that enemies stay in weakness break, I thought she’d be very good for kafka nihility team
@@corrin-1976 She provides team wide buffs and dmg% increases. She's technically a much better version of Asta in terms of value. Yes, she is also very good with Kafka DoT teams.
@@corrin-1976 All of this is party wide +30% dmg just by existing +24% dmg to broken enemies + break effect and break effect efficiency +16% speed +20% all element res penetration She's great for dual dps comp especially with blade since all her buffs work on him. Her E1 is busted, making her sp positive and permanent +40% atk, ofc unless you let her skill expire.
Even having Fu Xuan E0S0 and Gepard E1S1, The main reason why I pulled for huohuo is because of how cute she is. I just love her design and character that's why I kept on pulling singles even if the banner is with the worse line up of 4 stars (all dps) and even I don't need a healer. Luckily I got her early which I didn't expect and didnt experience the pain of getting the rate up 4* characters at every pull. I even won 50/50 after losing 3 times and getiing the guaranteed characters at high pity T_T I guess huohuo is indeed my lucky charm.
based. I didn't feel that it was worth it cause I'm a little too stingy with my pulls, but I tried until I lost 50/50. I'd trade my Luocha for her in a heartbeat, I prefer characters that are a bit more high risk high reward rather than braindead basic attack every round. That, and she's so adorable and must be protected.
Yeah we all just pull the 5 star cause no one uses 4 star characters right? 😂 E20 Serval and E0 Asta is the same as E6 Serval and E6 Asta. I really did want Huohuo but I had to cut my losses when I lost 50/50 (I was 1 ten pull from pity). No way I can chase her when the next banner has Hanya, Asta and Lynx. Also guaranteed Ruan Mei sounds really nice. Hopefully I don't get spooked by E1 SW early or something.
I remembered "having a dream" about huo huo. And I remember thinking "if huo huo ultimate is 130 energy or less she's going to be amazingly good." Unfortunately the moment I saw 140 energy my dreams were broken... And I could not recover. Might just save for a luocha rerun
@@cain7627 legitimately if you like silver wolf go for her. I personally will. I like the character but honestly I'm mainly pulling cause the 4 stars are wayyy too good for my account
@@cain7627 silver wolf is definelty worth it. im not even taking account mono quantum teams. for now she is the best debuffer in the game. 53% def shred (45% from ult and 8% from talent) + reduce the enemy general elemental resistance by 13% (10% from skill + 3% from trace) and extra 20% elemental resistance for a single element. apart from just enabling your dps to weaken the toughness bar of enemies. she definelty a good invesment. even more if you get the free event lightcone from her first banner that makes her ult every 2 turns.
25 from boots, others from trace even u dont have rolls on it a speed substats from all slot aside boots gives you 10, 35 already and average speed rolls on each relic is +4 so another 20, u got 55 speed + 5 from huo trace. its average 2 rolls into speed substat on your relics, its not that hard than reaching 170, 170 is above average relics
Luocha have emergency heal. Hou hou have buff. But in hard content luocha cannot prevent instant kill. So u need Fu xuan. But if the battle take too long or too much damage from enemies. Fu xuan cant solo sustian. u need a healer with Fu Xuan. So HouHou mini heals play well with Fu Xuan
If u hve fu and luocha ez skip huo huo.Remember better save for future meta character than pulling another sustain But i can feel it new game mode HSR you need third team😂😂😂
@@ATHOS_of_INDEX wdym cope? that true if you are comfortable with loucha or fuxuan then you dont need to pull her , she is not a must pull , me personally have both loucha and fuxuan so im gonna skip houhou to get ruan mei
Same, I have Luocha and FX (E1 + light cone). So I don't need HuoHuo at this point. Imma try a few pulls for Hanya though (as E1 SW isn't horrible), as she looks cool and her animation painting is right up my alley! Then I'm saving for Harmony 5 star. Don't have Bronya yet and I'm curious to see what other path they cross the new unit with 🤔
Saying Huo Huo is better than Luocha is such a bad statement lol. She eats a lot of skill points (i tested it myself, lol), she is nowhere near as comfortable as Luocha and she does not have any way to out of turn heal except if a character uses ultimate (and their turn heals too but that healing is really low). i hope people dont get baited by this and try to ''upgrade'' their luocha by pulling huo huo. From my personal experience, she feels nice at some teams but you cant call her an upgrade over Fu Xuan or Luocha in sustain. Her buffs are mostly on her 140 cost ultimate so you always have a downtime between buffs too. She is an upgrade over 4*s and at similiar levels for the other sustain units in my opinion. A worth to pull if you wanna upgrade your 4* sustain (or maybe you just like her lol if you do please get her she is cute) now that i think about it if you have blade you probably want Lynx over any sustain im not sure
i see some Lucha hater said she heal more than Luocha and I was like "huh?" they clearly don't have Lucha if they think she can even heal 50% of what Luocha can heal by just attacking lol
eats a lot skill points? what game are you playing. u dont have to use skills when ur full hp. like he said, huo huo e0 is +1 or sp neutral at worst ive been playing her with blade bronya jingliu, i dont run any issue huo huo consuming skills a lot. in fact she does generate +1 every 2 turns. if u have luocha and fuxuan u dont need huo huo, any working brain of non fetus knows that. luocha generates sp but his buffing capabilities is 0, huo the other side provide more offensive capabilities. luocha runs better on auto, huo runs better on manual at what frame exactly code saying huo is an upgrade of fx and luocha?
@@anthonylim8939 Damnn. Don't worry I'm pretty much sure you'll get lucky wihtin ur next character pulls cuz somehow thats the algorithm based on my experience (lost to JL and got guaranteed (Topaz) high pity as well)
mr editor doing weird titles
HIII
Editor bustin
considering that you don't script it he's doing a damn good job though, very nice video
The title got me ready to fight for my mans honor T.T
Mr.Editor making me smile with those edits, thanks both of you ❤
Huohuo VS Luocha is more or less high ceiling vs low floor.
Huohuo at the fastest will normally get you a 3 turn ult (funnily enough same turn as tingyun), and that is RNG to get hit once, just put her in the middle of the team and against most bosses she’s liable to get splashed at least (also foxian Aggro /s). If your not crazy and to try and minmax this stuff,
Then on average every other ult she accelerates by 1 turn (SW E1 is like the biggest exception since she can “easily” ult every other turn, and barely ult every turn), unless you ult slowly like Luka who benefits every ult. As with just doing normal things her ult is 4 turns (you have ERR rope right?).
Meanwhile compare the mess above to just letting Luocha do Luocha things.
I skipped luocha so I’m glad to have huohuo, but she has caused my OCD to go into overdrive on Min maxing pointless things.
Unless MOC 11 and 12 are really scary why bother trying to hit the ceiling when the floor already is standing above the content.
Luocha also enables Bronya team with future SP heavy support/DPS, with his multiplication SP printing
Trying to get Huohuo on a 3T ult is extremely conditional with the common AEA rotation, not only she needs to be hit once or have her trace passive trigger a few times, but also requires 36.4% ERR at the very minimum for 3T ult, otherwise its gonna be a 4T ult for the most part
Think you mean high ceiling vs high floor?
While its true that Luocha is very good, HuoHuo is also.
I very often get my Ult (Sig LC, no ERR Rope), heal 3.7K with HuoHuo, have no Debuff problems on my Team anymore and also just enjoy destroying anything in MoC.
Sure, many people do have Luocha BUT many do not. For those who only had Bailu, Natasha or Lynx, HuoHuo is an insane upgrade.
I don't really care about Luocha vs HuoHuo because she's my 2nd healer after Natasha lmao. I got no Lynx, Bailu, or Luocha so i'm very grateful for pulling HuoHuo at low pity. Now i have the motivation to try clearing MoC.
For Luocha vs HuoHuo though if i really have to compare, my rule of thumb is if you want a reliable heal, go for Luocha, if you want cleanse & buff, go for HuoHuo. There is no reason to compare them when they both does different things except healing.
I never regretted in pulling for luocha. His healing is high enough for me to survive hard content. Nevertheless, Huohuo is good for those who skipped luocha and fu xuan banner
Haha that's me, cries
I want to have both Luocha and HuoHuo
ABOUT TIME! i got sick using boring Luocha, ye hes broken op but NOT WAIFU!!! he makes me sick :3
@@Aproxyswtf touch some grass dude
Can i use both of them on the same team😔
Oh god I can't breath after that 2:36 part "I Want to Help" LOL, as always great Clara showcase Code
Huohuo has been helping my team a lot now because I only had bailu to help me before when it comes to sustaining the entire team. Got her on soft pity and got lucky with one ten pull on her light cone. Huohuo unlimited cleanse works helps me survive. I don't have luocha since I chose SW the last time I played and recently got back to HSR
14:23 For the Tingyun thing, try putting Jingliu on slot 3. Her Ai scans from 4 to 1. I had the same problem of her charging Pela and not Kafka and that seemed to fix it.
I can't do anything cuz I borrow someone else's Blade 😢
Code yelling at HouHou in the background sounds like a dad who's lost control of their kid. Lol.
Thanks for being real on Huohuo. I feel like a lot of content creators have been over hyping her and calling Luocha garbage in comparison.
She is really good but you need to manual her cause her auto battle isn't ideal. Most like using Luocha cause auto-battle with him is braindead, you don't need to do anything. I don't like using auto battle cause it makes you complacent. Right now the game is easy but if the devs decide to add much harder content & fights i don't think auto battle will be ideal.
her and luocha is really good but i think shes way better in some situations/team comp but doesnt mean luocha is not as good as her, theyre in the same level lol
She’s better if you know what you’re doing. Luocha is way more comfortable
@@gabsjr i just think a lot of content creators over hype her energy regen when it isn't even that much and keep saying she is a must pull due to her attack buff and clense. Which I think is a lil irrisponcible. The value she adds to an account is determined on what units you have already. I feel like if you already have luocha or Fu Xuan and you already have an invested natasha, lynx or bailu she is not a must pull.
@@TheJasperMage well, in my experience I had a Nat very well geared and Luocha. Decided to try my 50/50 cuz she’s cute. The difference she made in my Jingliu team is GIGANTIC (JL, Tingyun, Pela and now her) She give energy to Tingyun and Jingliu. Jingliu is perma ascended basically.
I like everything about her kit but Luocha got me addicted to off-turn healing.
I gotta basic attack for DHIL man I ain't using a whole skill point to heal.
same lol im never gonna use her with dhil but shes v useful for all my other teams, especially in moc
He gets it, man. He do.
He gets straight to the heart of the video by answering the most important questions and then explain it further so the important dump is easier for consumption❤
But it’s probably cuz he’s hilarious, him and his chat and editor😂
I love your videos Code❤
I think Huohuo's biggest auto battle problem is that she doesn't abuse her talent enough, which is especially annoying if you have her LC.
This is Huo's biggest problem in general, imo. Well, a few things:
1.) Her auto-battle sucks, ESPECIALLY if you have E1 like I do. She doesn't take advantage of it at all. She won't throw it up for speed tuning your group, and if the enemies start smacking your team and her turn isn't up, you're not getting healed on your teammates turns.
2.) If a character decides to get focused, she can do nothing. If it isn't her turn and you don't have Fu Xuan on your team, they can very easily die. I did a solo sustain Huohuo for fun, my pela got to 65% HP, Huohuo's turn came up...and she didn't heal @ 3 skill points available. Pela promptly died right after. Thanks, Huohuo.
3.) Luocha's cleanse and Huohuo's are both tied to their skill...but Luocha gets free casts of skill interrupting enemy turns which does, a lot of the time, coincide with a character going under 50% HP also being debuffed. The full heal and cleanse is absolutely a godsend and happens when you need it.
4.) Luocha can remove enemy buffs.
I LOVE Huohuo. If you wanted her for the energy regen, she's fantastic. The attack buff isn't the greatest buff possibly given, but it's still more useful than Luocha's E1.
But if you don't manual battle Huohuo is a lesson in frustration. Her AI is dogshit, whereas Luocha is literally his voiceline: "Ha! Ha! Haa!"
@@AwefulWaffle88Huohuo’s cleanse isn’t completely tied to her skill though? Her skill also has cleanse but her talent makes if to where she can cleanse whenever a character’s turn starts or they use their ultimate as long as she has charges of her talent. Yeah you have to use her skill to activate her talent but the ideal way to play her in the first place is to skill basic skill to take advantage of her talent’s healing and cleanse. Luocha is definitely better at healing but Huohuo is way better at cleansing.
I've been using Jingliu, Blade, Pela, HuoHuo team coz I ticked my guarantee with HuoHuo in 20 pulls 😂
And also, damn that team is very fun(Jingliu's syzygy health drain, HuoHuo's small tick heal, Blade's passive FUA, and Pela's all enemy defense shred is just mayhem/Tug of war on health for both teams😂)
Finally mr editor is healthy 😢
I'm sorry Huohuo, I'm targeting Dr. Ratio rn 😢😢
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Huo Huo auto battle in general needs a rework. Her heals go for the one with the least HP like most healers, but often times it would be more ideal to manually choose because sometimes she'll only heal 2 people where she could've healed 3.
Im expecting a clara or march showcase chode. Idk why the title says huohuo guide.
As a DHIL main I’m still pulling for Luocha even after getting HuoHuo. HuoHuo just ain’t SP friendly enough for him. HuoHuo will be glued to my Jingliu though.
Something I noticed was that whenever an ally used an ult they got healed and cleansed by huohuo which is pretty neat
Thats if you have her lightcone i believe.
@@hueyyang10it's part of her talent
Just because Code tells answer at the beginning, I decided to watch the full vid
Wasn't that 1 energy trace originally the one that you needed an Erudition character in your team for more energy regeneration?
We don't talk about co-dependent traces
What does that mean?
Yes, thankfully it got scrapped, it was a horrible idea
Yes, I was going to skip her because of that lol. That was a dead trace to me
i think the event light cone isnt bad for Huo since the outgoing healing will last the same amount of turns as the passive from her heal
Thanks for answering the question at the start, I'll afk until the end of the video out of respect.
Typical Code video. Gives the answer 20s in the video, proceeds to mald for 15 minutes.
Ok, that vergil transition is smooth
Huohuo is another futuristic character. Her energy recharge would work best for units like argenti since he has a high er cost and for future characters who might have the same kit as argenti.
I remember when Luocha first came out community dished him for not having emergency heal button.
What is the difference from Huo2? She also heals only from skill + continuous heal.
One point to bring up, Luocha can abuse Abundance blessing in SU
- 45% recover SP everytime ally heal
- there are also Def, spd, buff, etc
His abbyss make any allies who attacks heal.
Huo2 also OP, her ult can save one turn rotation for dps / harmony.
Just pick ur poison 😅
Huohuo is best to abuse abundance in su. Not only ally heals every turn but heals all ally every ult.
Luocha with sp gain is really busted in abundance.
The fact that Luocha looks like Otto might be another reason why ppl skip him
at least that what my friend do
Fun fact: "Abyss Flower" is also the name of a "Divine Key" weapon in Honkai Impact 3rd. It's the choice weapon of Durandal in the game's story, but before her, Kiana's mom, Cecilia, used that weapon as her signature weapon. If you've played enough of Honkai Impact 3rd, you probably know what weapon type it is, considering the fact that you can equip it on Durandal, and all Battlesuits of a single character you equip the same weapon type to. All of Kiana's Battlesuits you equip twin pistols to, wherever she uses that weapon type in gameplay or not, for example.
Comparing Huohuo with Bailu, it's obvious who is better at restoring HP and cleansing. But Bailu has the unique ability to resurrect a fallen character and her healing through ult removes the reliance on skill points to heal. Both of which are very handy in some fights like Phantylia.
Hey 3:17 !?! No Slander against JY, bro can finally do dps dmg bcs of the new relic sets now (e0s0 70k dmg on single enemy for 10 stack follow-up atk and no support), Bailu also in the team for emotional support, also for one-shot res.
The reason why tinyun is giving blade energy is she is splitting buffs. Blade is 90% hp scaling just like you said in your guide so she does her skill on jinglu then she has her burst so she splitting buffs for both dps on your team
HuoHuo: Stormcaller!
Blade: Shart Sword!
how it work the speed buff from her E1?
It only buff the base speed or the total speed with the boost of the relics?
I was thinking to farm glamoth for blade and jingliu if it boost the total speed.
even with 130+ err she's still so slow to get her ult back.
her and danil have the same cost but he charges it up in like 3 turns with 100% err while it takes huohuo like 4+ with 130
I think the biggest problem with Bailou is that he Splash Heal is random, she once healed a full HP kafka TWICE. I feel like Houhou is what they tried to do with her but failed so they just remade her
Seeking advice!
I have Fu Xuan and just got Huo Huo (also Bailu, but she’s finally been benched lol) & I’m trying to figure out where to put them…
Which one of them should be on my Kafka dot team & which one on my Blade team? (I also just got Clara, so maybe one would pair better with her?)
Thanks in advance if anyone does answer ♡
I ignored Huohuo's banner to wait for Lingsha, because I wasn't sure if Huohuo was really important at the moment T^T
I have both Luocha and Huo Huo. I wanted Huo Huo because she's cute and just because second healer. And yea, I'm too used to Luocha healing when it's not his turn but I do like Huo Huo too. It's better though to yea just manual battle with Huo Huo, but she's still strong as a healer and I love her
Jingliu went to her Happy Place
Still players don't know that huohuo is actually made for argenti
All I can say Im happy she came home to me Im desperately need SUPPORTS. I can do manual in other Phase I leave my JingYuan kill the rest :). I have so many DPS in my account with Lightcones that I don't have SW :( And I'm praying to get Bronya.
Welt, where are you? I need you to accompany dragonheng
Wanted to ask someone who knows more than me. If I have e6 nat, e3 lynx and e2 bailu, should I wait for luocha or pull for huohuo?
If you prefere one over the other (design and personnality wise), then you could pull for either. They both get the job done. However, if you want to build a solid team, then you might consider how SP hungry your DPS and supports are. For DHIL, Seele (if you're not going for mono quantum) and I'd argue even blade, Luocha is the best pick since his kit just synergizes perfectly with them. Huohuo is very good and maybe she'll find better utility with future DPS and team comps. Personnaly, if you can clear decent amont of content with your current healers, then I'd advise you to wait for Luocha. He is the most valuable pull you can ever make in this game imo.
Huohuo is better than luocha 90% of the time. Luocha is still a crazy good unit tho so if you already have him it’s unnecessary to pull for her. Huohuo is only a must pull if your only sustain is bailu or the 4 star healers
I got her LC for my Luocha
since i don't have Luocha and went to SW, i get her, i do have Fu Xuan also and also using Bailu in MoC, and yes I'm a day 1 player 😅.
i love the scripted guide!
they still dont fix tingyun auto targets her ult on wind? kafka+sampo tingyun E always on kafka while tingyun ult always targets sampo on auto
I couldn't get her weapon so i think the event weapon would be good for her 🙂
quick question, would you guys pull for Ruan Mei or Silverwolf? Is silverwolf necessary for the op Hypercarry teams or nah?
Ruan Mei any day, cuz SW can be subbed by pela if u are looking for def shred. Current top tier hyper carries i.e DHIL and Jingliu dont care weakness break so SWs value as weakness implanter is diminished, shes good to have but the current best hyper carry comps dont use her.
20% to Argenti ult sounds like 40 energy to me!
For how new this game still kinda is, there's a shit ton of healers ☠️
Im pissing my pants seeing clara's normal attack name ''I want to help'' compared to ''STORMCALLER'' from HuoHuo XD
Here after i lost 50/50, tried building pity to prepare for Ruan Mei, and then got her at 37 pity
Now ive lost my guaranteed for Ruan Mei 😢
Luocha is best for me. Doesnt use a single sp, infinite healing. You can literally put him in any team and he does his thing.
Is Pela E4 better than tingyun in the Jingliu blade huohuo team?
Yes. Also, an upcoming character Ruan Mei is good for dual dps teams as well. You might want to check her out.
@@insaniaaa1627 why is she good for dual dps? I’ve checked her now I don’t remember a lot but I think she increases speed (?) break effect, maybe break efficiency and increases the turns that enemies stay in weakness break, I thought she’d be very good for kafka nihility team
@@corrin-1976 She provides team wide buffs and dmg% increases. She's technically a much better version of Asta in terms of value.
Yes, she is also very good with Kafka DoT teams.
@@insaniaaa1627 I’m gonna bet my middle nut that people will call her the Kazuha of HSR. I can’t
@@corrin-1976
All of this is party wide
+30% dmg just by existing
+24% dmg to broken enemies
+ break effect and break effect efficiency
+16% speed
+20% all element res penetration
She's great for dual dps comp especially with blade since all her buffs work on him. Her E1 is busted, making her sp positive and permanent +40% atk, ofc unless you let her skill expire.
Now I wait for the topaz guide :)
I found ATK% bonus is kinda more rare and important in HSR than daamge % bonus, am I insane?
havent lost a 50/50 yet on my off account so i pulled for huohuo just hoping id miss and i didnt lmao
Also what was the thing about "in my dream" "three teams MoC" ... is that a legit leak? Would be so bad ass if they implement it.
I have a question, does Tingyuns buff scale with the bonus attack that HuoHuo provides?
huohuo seggs alarm
here I am after just loosing my 50/50 to clara.
Thank God it only took me 20 pulls. Forgot how much I did last time.
can you use the new sets of follow up relic for march 7th?
not worth since her FUA only deal 1 hit then it got reset
I feel like ruan mei, blade, jingliu and huohuo will be so broken
Even having Fu Xuan E0S0 and Gepard E1S1, The main reason why I pulled for huohuo is because of how cute she is. I just love her design and character that's why I kept on pulling singles even if the banner is with the worse line up of 4 stars (all dps) and even I don't need a healer. Luckily I got her early which I didn't expect and didnt experience the pain of getting the rate up 4* characters at every pull. I even won 50/50 after losing 3 times and getiing the guaranteed characters at high pity T_T I guess huohuo is indeed my lucky charm.
based. I didn't feel that it was worth it cause I'm a little too stingy with my pulls, but I tried until I lost 50/50. I'd trade my Luocha for her in a heartbeat, I prefer characters that are a bit more high risk high reward rather than braindead basic attack every round. That, and she's so adorable and must be protected.
The game refuses to give me Loucha.
Yeah we all just pull the 5 star cause no one uses 4 star characters right? 😂 E20 Serval and E0 Asta is the same as E6 Serval and E6 Asta. I really did want Huohuo but I had to cut my losses when I lost 50/50 (I was 1 ten pull from pity). No way I can chase her when the next banner has Hanya, Asta and Lynx. Also guaranteed Ruan Mei sounds really nice. Hopefully I don't get spooked by E1 SW early or something.
My plan as well, 0 pity atm. I really don't want SW.
3 teams MoC seems fun
can't wait to see how angry the luocha simps get because the title dared to say anything remotely negative about a video game character.
I have luocha, e1 fu xuan, and huohuo😂. Got huohuo in just 27 pity
Everyone that hate on her on vids saying (dont pull skip) they have her. Its really cringe when they say this and they pull for said unit..😂😂😂😂😂
I'm fine if they need 3 teams if they double the weekly rewards
18:17 well it was funny, but I'm tired boss... I'm tired of being a f2p with shitty gears and struggling to get the characters I want.
Trust me, I am lowkey spamming for Arlan
I dont have acses to luocha since i started when the ps5 version released so huohuo is my best opsion
Yeah thanks for the info 👍 and editor ok now?😅
For that team who could I put instead of blade? I don’t own bronya either
You can just make a hyper carry Jingliu team with Tingyun & Pela as supports.
@@insaniaaa1627 ahh okay sweet thanks 🙏🏾
why so many avatar changes
Can't really use multiplication sadge
I remembered "having a dream" about huo huo. And I remember thinking "if huo huo ultimate is 130 energy or less she's going to be amazingly good."
Unfortunately the moment I saw 140 energy my dreams were broken... And I could not recover. Might just save for a luocha rerun
Same, also I was wondering if it was a good idea to get silverwolf on her rerun or just to stick with my E1 Pela, got any advice for that?
@@cain7627 legitimately if you like silver wolf go for her. I personally will. I like the character but honestly I'm mainly pulling cause the 4 stars are wayyy too good for my account
@@cain7627 silver wolf is definelty worth it. im not even taking account mono quantum teams. for now she is the best debuffer in the game. 53% def shred (45% from ult and 8% from talent) + reduce the enemy general elemental resistance by 13% (10% from skill + 3% from trace) and extra 20% elemental resistance for a single element. apart from just enabling your dps to weaken the toughness bar of enemies. she definelty a good invesment. even more if you get the free event lightcone from her first banner that makes her ult every 2 turns.
@@MelVridos Will they release her event lightcone with the rerun? I joined the game towards the end of Kafka's banner back in 1.2
@@cain7627 SW only if you intend to go mono quant with hanabi. Else Pela is better as a general debuffer
E0 Luocha > E0 Huohuo
E1 Huohuo > E1 Luocha
E2 Huohuo > E6 Luocha
His name is Lulucha????
How does one get 160 speed?!?
Godly speed stat rolls on relics alongside speed boots 😞
my tingyun has 161 speed but all of her relics have speed rolls
25 from boots, others from trace even u dont have rolls on it a speed substats from all slot aside boots gives you 10, 35 already and average speed rolls on each relic is +4 so another 20, u got 55 speed + 5 from huo trace. its average 2 rolls into speed substat on your relics, its not that hard than reaching 170, 170 is above average relics
Where tf you get that much e res 😭
Luocha have emergency heal. Hou hou have buff.
But in hard content luocha cannot prevent instant kill. So u need Fu xuan. But if the battle take too long or too much damage from enemies. Fu xuan cant solo sustian. u need a healer with Fu Xuan. So HouHou mini heals play well with Fu Xuan
pls show ur artifacts!
"no gear"
I have fuxuan and luocha but I still roll for huohuo but I lost the 5050😂
At least you still have 2 really awesome sustains! There's always her rerun which will almost certainly have better 4 stars.
no discord 😟😟😟😟
I want a hoyo crossover where hu toa harasses huo hou.
Is 140 energy recharge good for huo huo?
HELLO? That's a lot.
No way in hell you are getting 140 er at the moment bud
@@CastielReborn it's actually possible to get 140%, you need her light cone, one of the two planar sets that give 5% ERR and an ERR rope
@@CastielRebornprobably Natasha's LC S5 + ERR rope + Vonwacq/Penacony set
Er rope on the one you need to kill the big bot for and Nat lightcone s5 will get you that
Yeah no, i'll still pull for luocha.
If u hve fu and luocha ez skip huo huo.Remember better save for future meta character than pulling another sustain
But i can feel it new game mode HSR you need third team😂😂😂
Cope
@@ATHOS_of_INDEX wdym cope? that true if you are comfortable with loucha or fuxuan then you dont need to pull her , she is not a must pull , me personally have both loucha and fuxuan so im gonna skip houhou to get ruan mei
Same, I have Luocha and FX (E1 + light cone). So I don't need HuoHuo at this point. Imma try a few pulls for Hanya though (as E1 SW isn't horrible), as she looks cool and her animation painting is right up my alley! Then I'm saving for Harmony 5 star. Don't have Bronya yet and I'm curious to see what other path they cross the new unit with 🤔
me who have 7k huo huo belike XD
Saying Huo Huo is better than Luocha is such a bad statement lol. She eats a lot of skill points (i tested it myself, lol), she is nowhere near as comfortable as Luocha and she does not have any way to out of turn heal except if a character uses ultimate (and their turn heals too but that healing is really low). i hope people dont get baited by this and try to ''upgrade'' their luocha by pulling huo huo. From my personal experience, she feels nice at some teams but you cant call her an upgrade over Fu Xuan or Luocha in sustain. Her buffs are mostly on her 140 cost ultimate so you always have a downtime between buffs too. She is an upgrade over 4*s and at similiar levels for the other sustain units in my opinion. A worth to pull if you wanna upgrade your 4* sustain (or maybe you just like her lol if you do please get her she is cute)
now that i think about it if you have blade you probably want Lynx over any sustain im not sure
Yeah totally agree on that
click bait for people who can't read title lol
i see some Lucha hater said she heal more than Luocha and I was like "huh?" they clearly don't have Lucha if they think she can even heal 50% of what Luocha can heal by just attacking lol
eats a lot skill points? what game are you playing. u dont have to use skills when ur full hp. like he said, huo huo e0 is +1 or sp neutral at worst ive been playing her with blade bronya jingliu, i dont run any issue huo huo consuming skills a lot. in fact she does generate +1 every 2 turns.
if u have luocha and fuxuan u dont need huo huo, any working brain of non fetus knows that. luocha generates sp but his buffing capabilities is 0, huo the other side provide more offensive capabilities. luocha runs better on auto, huo runs better on manual
at what frame exactly code saying huo is an upgrade of fx and luocha?
she will be fantastic with Hanya. if you manage skill points properly shes not bad
"Unless you play Blade +/ Jingliu"
Well I've been found out it seems
hope their release cleanse lc for bailu she good but yeah ..
I don't think you know what "endless" mean
I'm so happy that i accidentally got her on 23 pity
i got at 165
i got her at 6 pity after bronya
@@anthonylim8939 is that even possiblee?? T__T or both are just hard pt?
@@MonoMono-ch7jd sadly yes
@@anthonylim8939 Damnn. Don't worry I'm pretty much sure you'll get lucky wihtin ur next character pulls cuz somehow thats the algorithm based on my experience (lost to JL and got guaranteed (Topaz) high pity as well)