I was determined to build my own multirotor and after some research started to buy some of the components, motors Esc's and a full Naze. Then realised I didn't have a clue and it was all much more complicated than I thought. The more videos I watched the more I started to lose faith in my ability to achieve my goal. Enter Painless360. After watching just a few of your videos I feel that I am back on track and it is all starting to fall into place. Thanks for clear, informative and interesting videos. You have given me hope and inspiration once again. Thanks very much for a great series of videos.
Your Naze32 video series has been a lifesaver for me. Thanks to you I've become a Naze guru and can get a new quad setup and flying in only a few minutes time. Thanks!
Thank You!!!! Im a new user and I had no idea how to get clean flight and no one else showed it like you did. I spent 3 hours trying to figure it out and you showed how in just a couple of minutes. no one else shows how to install clean flight on your computer...THANK YOU!!!!
You're videos have helped me a LOT. Thank you Sir... I'm an old RC pilot of about 35 years now. A little bit of catching up i need to do it seems. I'm using Open Pilot for the quads i now have, your videos have made ALL the difference in grabbing on to a kinda' sharp learning curve. Still have some questions but, i'll be getting to those as i go. So far, all the flights have been very stable, predictable and most fun to fly. You may not realize just how much you're helping the community with these but i promise, it's much more than you may realize. For that, i really do appreciate the time and effort you've put into making these videos for us. :)
+Danoman Brammer Thanks for the feedback. It is always a pleasure to hear from pilots who find the channel helpful but especially from those who feel we've helped them get into the air in new ways. Happy flying!
I wanted to let you know I fixed the issue previously mentioned,.. after all the trouble I went thru with Win 7 and what I thought was an issue a friend in the hobby mentioned and was right- check the USB cable as some do not provide enough power. I, happily, just flashed MY CONTROLLER CARD!!! Lovely video. Please keep up ALL your good work as I do get much out of a whole array of your subjects! Thank You!
I have used the information in your video tutorials to set up APM's for fixed wing and had considerable success, thank you. I am building my first tricopter using a Quanum Illuminati 32; which is similar to Naze, this video tutorial has been invaluable. Thank you very much.
I have soldered a dozen of these or more to date- I took a tip from mochaboy on my first board and have kept to it successfully since. I take a small bit of flux and wipe across the header holes before and after placing pins. I get a tiny drop of solder on the tip of the iron and touch it to the pin and it will draw down the pin and make a perfect joint every time. Quick, clean, and no boards trashed yet *knocks on wood* Another fine video tutorial !
Painless360 If you plan on doing GPS, read up on the harikari fork of baseflight, or the PID controller that represents this in cleanflight as that was where I left off- when I want GPS features I go with APM- I use the Naze as intended- acro and racing flying, and pure fpv goodness. No crutches or nets.
Painless360 That is because it is the folks that want all the locked in feel of a 32 bit FC, but the safety net of a Naza... it may be prudent to read some of the old timecop-isms to understand why there is only recently an effort to nail down the GPS and autonomous features. He built the naze for acro and fpv- so he never gave a shyte about GPS. You did good and expectedly wise to go with cleanflight. Check out Dominic's channel for up to date info on the led programming, and the PID controller info- Oscar is another if you want some deep reading. I am sure you have already found all this info. You tend to be very well read and prepared for your videos. This Naze32 is a beast to try and parse down and summarize- it is so dynamic. Open source is not for the faint of heart- or patience.
Painless360 Thanks for this. What would be great is an easy how to on Telemetry and Led setup as well. A lot of other videos just seem to get lost in technical jargon and are hard to follow or understand Cheers again.
Hi painless, I always find things work much better when you have set your Tx up, you need the mid point at 1500 (mostly) bottom at 1000, top at 2000. If you've got a neutral (no trim on) Tx, and you plug it in and all channels are say 1520, change mid_rc to 1520. Adjust your start/middle/endpoints to match 1000,1500,2000. Also, if you need to calibrate all ESC's at once, remove props (naturally) and plug board in with no battery power, set min_throttle to 1850 (or your highest throttle setting) you can now do this on the config page... save (reboot) plug in power, ESC's should go to programming mode, change min throttle back to 1050 (or your minimum throttle setting) save... viola! With this board it is better to trim your Tx/Rx to what the board expects, not what your Tx is telling you ;-)
I new to all this but after seeing your videos i ordered everything i needed to build one in my dead DJI phantom ,great success still trying to get the gps to talk to the board but it fly’s very well, what i love about this setup is you can shape everything cleanflight is great,
yep spot on Lee thank you very much rev6 is printed on the board I will wait until I can chat to the team and see where I go from here once again you are a star I will keep you posted just in case anyone else has the same issue
Hi Painless 360, i'm a beginner for Fpv and mini quads, i'm starting to select, compare and check a lot of datas about this and yours videos series are very very interesting for me and seroiusly with yous comments on Naze 32...! Thank's a lot for all this... Fly safe...............Philippe
Excellent video! Very clear and concise! I just bought my first Naze32 (Full) board and to find a video to guide me. I must admit, my hands were shivering when i was soldering those pins onto the board. :-)
Thank you very much this been very helpful I been Fly control planes about six years just started to get into quad Quatro's first one a little 250 keep up the good work we need more people like you
Thanks for a great video,you are the first person to note the Naze32 heading pointing north after calibration,i thought mine was broken,but that clears it up for me looking forward to part 2
I love what is happening with cleanflight. It is running on many different boards (including simple STM32 dev boards from ebay if you supply your own sensors; also from ebay). That means you can use more powerful processors. Computing power is enough with all of them at the moment, but there are many that have much more IO hardware built in. I can't wait to have it running on a board that has 5 hardware serial ports so I can use SBUS, SmartPort telemetry, 5Hz GPS, blackbox recording and CLI for inflight tuning via smartphone bluetooth at the same time!
Wow another set of tutorial, very nice! I've been configuring my 250 Quad for about 2weeks now with this FC. I'm happy that you made this video tutorial so that I can sum up all of my knowledge! :D
Thank you Painless360. This is 100% the info I needed, to decide where to start for building my first quad. You make it look easy. Your explanations are plain english and easy to follow. Very interested to see your other video on GPS. Cheers
Thank you for the series. They were invaluable in getting me into the air, which I am doing as often as the good weather allows. Just wanted you to know that your work is very much appreciated.
Been thro a few of the vids for this board from different subscribers, a nice clear concise explanation, thanks ! look forward to the next one . I have been running this board on a 250 racer , set up by a much more experienced friend , I intend to do another one myself ( hopefully!)
Thanks Derek! Very appreciated. I hope this series gives you what you need to setup the next one yourself. Let me know if I miss something! Happy flying!
hey there! i just wanted to let you know that your channel is great! i just switched from cc3d to naze32 and i am really happy that you have a series of videos for this fc too. :) thanks for all the work you put in this and greetings from vienna/austria! fidi
To calibrate your ESCs , connect to Cleanflight/Baseflight without your flight battery connected. Go to the Motors tab and tick the box (props off!).Using the main slider , slide all four motor inputs to the top , it should give a value equal to your maximum throttle setting. Connect your flight battery and wait for the ESCs to beep , when they have done their thing slide the main slider back down to zero and the ESCs should beep once again. Viola your ESCs are calibrated.
Nice Video, thanks Painless. Based on my recent experience, a warning is in order. FLY-AWAY RISK!!!!!! Last weekend I removed the KK2.1.5 FC board that I had used for weeks on my big quadcopter. I installed a Naze32 (non Baro) board. I took it out and made 4 short test flights, bringing it back inside to the computer and making small adjustments. I was satisfied with the basic setup and was going to call it a night as the light was going fast. I turned off my Turnigy 9x transmitter (with the Nase32 still armed). A second later the big Quad came to full power and flew off into the woods. I haven't found it yet, but will continue to look. With another Naze32 board this week, I confirmed what had happened. The new board is actually a DragonFly32 Pro (baro and magnetometer version). When set up (without doing anything with failsafe), it did (under controlled conditions indoors) the same thing. Powered up and armed, motors run up then back down to zero (motors off). Leave armed and turn off transmitter. A second later the motors go to full power. I NOW have the DragonFly32 Pro configured to RUN the motors when armed...they are just barely ticking over. This gives me an absolute positive confirmation that the board is ARMED or DIS-ARMED. In addition, I now have the failsafe on the DragonFly32 activated, and per several tests, it works as advertised. Both the Naze32 and the DragonFly32 were/are running the same version of CleanFlight with same NAZE32 firmware installed. I have no idea whey the board makers would configure the default settings of the board to permit the motors to go to full power in case of signal loss and ALSO have a default setting of failsafe OFF. You may or may not cover this in your subsequent videos, but a person who has gone through this first one may give in to the temptation to take the copter out and fly it. Without an active FAILSAFE, and without a POSITIVE means of assuring that the board is DIS-ARMED, a fly-away is a very real possibility. Brian Kuehn.
Hi Brian, sorry to hear about that but even in the world of digital radios and failsafe you must ALWAYS turn off the model first. I still carry scars from 450 class helicopters starting up un-commanded in my early days.. Happy flying!
Same thing happend to me Brian. I grabbed it and it nearly cut my finger off as it tried to take off! (I play bass guitar too) Of course you turn the model off 1st, but occasionally after a few beers you land, and start switching things off... Hell we do it with Naza's never have a problem. Auto dis-arm is da shit.
Your videos are the best on u tube mate, keep up the good work .You have help so many of us to achieve builds when most kits come with out plans or instructions.....many many thanks
I want one of these flight controllers but can not solder that finely. Awesome video. You do a fantastic job showing what a person needs to do step vy step.
Thanks Lee I'm sure it did say rev 6 on it I will check it out and get back to you I will get in touch with hobby rc coz their live chat was good so I will try tomorrow when they are open thanks again I will keep you updated
well done, without a doubt the best instructional video on youtube, and will be changing from base flight to clean flight. thanks for spending the time
When I plug in the naze to the computer everything goes as planned except the green light stays on and has a slow blink. I can adjust the motors and accelerometer and everything works fine but I cannot arm the board because the green light is still blinking. Any ideas?
you need to hook up your rx and transmitter. then in clean flight adjust transmitter travel so the points are around 1000 low end and 2000 high end. my dx6e needs around 150 for travel settings. then setup a switch to arm with. once you have it disarmed and throttle low point is correct light will go off
Well - autotune only if your pids are factory default! I broke an arm on an Diatone FPV250. Since that frame is sturdy it shows the power in this small quad. But... I got loads of spare parts now!!!
Sorry Painless. I guess I felt like you were right here -- not on a video. The portion where you try throttle, roll yaw etc-- I turned on the receiver, made sure it is bound. All ESC's are hooked to the engine order profile. I tried to arm it through the transmitter. When I plug in the Li Battery, green and blue lights come on on the flight controller-- and the receiver powers up. It remains connected to cleanflight throughout. The esc's are in order starting from the end-- opposite the end that says "Beep". It is probably a dumb thing I did-- but there are no dumb questions. Thanks for your help in advance.
+Bud Jones hi, was this in relation to something? It helps if you can reply to the original thread if it is. Sorry we to get you to move it but we get dozens and dozens of questions, messages and comments every day so it's almost impossible to keep track if it isn't linked into the existing conversation in the comments via a 'reply '. Thanks
+Bud Jones p,s, just saw the original question! Check that the reciever settings in Cleanflight match how you've got it wired up. Defaults to PWM. Best of luck!
What's crazy is that the Naze32 boards are now cheaper than the Multiwii SE! I have been using a arduino MEGA with the I2C connected to a dead/fried multiwii SE (the board got hit with 12V! Insta-killed the micro, but sensors are OK! :D) but I had a bad crash and messed up the wiring of this rat's nest (with GPS, UART, minumOSD, etc) so this seems like the most obvious upgrade/repair path!
I'll take a look at it! I already ordered a NAZE32 board with the MPU6500, MS5611 baro, and HMC5983 mag. These are supposedly really good sensors. The MPU6500 acc/gyro has a refresh rate of 35HKz over SPI, vs the older MPU6050 which is a slower sensor using I2C. Would it be worth canceling the order? I am shopping in the $30 price range.
It would be nice to be able to reuse as much of my multiwii accessories as possible, like the GPS module and the minimOSD which appear to be compatible with cleanflight. Given that the "language" multiwii and cleanflight use are very simalar, I would think the minimOSD should work without requiring firmware changes.
+Power Max Cleanflight is the grandson of MultiWii and still talks MSP (MultiWii serial protocol) just like the old days so most of the kit will work with little change. Best of luck!
I figured :) I am now trying to find a cheap F3 board with the sensors this one had. That's seems to be non-existent. Way too many "acro" versions available. I realized that 32K refresh rate is way overkill for a board that struggles at 2K cycles per second, unless the MPU6500 can be configured with averaging... Does cleanflight support the F3 boards or am I wasting my time?
I have just started building a 250 quad, and am setting up a Naze32, following your videos. If I use version 1.7 of the firmware, all lights are as you describe. If I use version 1.12, the blue light comes on steady, but the flashing red and green don't. One goes off,but the one right next to the blue light continues flashing. The board still connects OK, but with one flashing light. And the motors do not spin, in either version (I do not have the receiver connected yet). Advice?
+Richard Baker Tricky to suggest what to try without a lot mode detail. I'd follow the videos and try it with the Rx and power connected to everything.. Best of luck.
Thanks so much for this video Painless. With regard to the motor testing at the end... if you found that one of your motors was NOT turning in the correct direction, is it possible to change the direction through this software.... as opposed to resoldering the wires? Thanks again!
There is no option in software as its the ESC not the flight controller that drives the motors. Swap any two of the wires from the ESC to the motor. I use bullets to make go easier repairs and setup myself.. Best of luck!
This is an "old" video by now, not the content.. but by upload date that is ;) I still love watching these videos, I even rewatch them because I refresh my memory. However, I have a Naze32 Rev6 board laying around and for some reason I have a vague memory that you've done some videos on that board, only if its just one video - vague memory! But I can't find any. I thought you had a video on the connections on the Rev6 for use with PWM inputs and GPS on Soft Uart. I don't know, maybe it wasn't from your channel? I remember seeing both picture connection diagrams and at least a video on the subject, but I just can't find it anymore. I was sure I had downloaded/saved it on my storage drive as well, but I just can't find it.. Wondering if I've dreamed it up somehow.. hehe.. If you have time and interest, let me know if you've done these videos and perhaps removed them for some reason or if you just haven't done any of those.. I sure you have made them though, as your setup videos are the best on all of RUclips! =D
I am new to this Quad R/C game and found your video very very helpful, well spoken and clear with the instructions. How do I find the next video in this series? I have subscribed and gave it a thumbs up. Cheers
Hi Ronald, each of the videos like this is arranged into a playlist so they are easy to find and play. You can see all my playlists by visiting ruclips.net/user/Painless360playlists?view=1&sort=dd Happy flying!
Very good video as usual but I would add one point if I may. You connect the + and - from the esc on the naze32 ONLY ON MOTOR 1 all the other motors you connect the SIGNAL ONLY !!
Thanks for the reply. This is only true if the BECs are switched. Interestingly there is a video on this very subject to be published on the channel on 'Tip Tuesday' next week as I didn't have time to cover it here. Thanks again, happy flying!
Hi Painnless360, I have a few questions after watching your video: 1. For NAze32 6DOF rev5, can we use opto escs? if possible, how to connect? 2. How to connect the FC with PWM configuration for spektrum DX6I transmitter and AR610 receiver? 3. at 19:10, you mentioned 5v, where do you get the 5v from?
1) Yes you can 2) See the rest of the playlist - it's all covered 3) If you're using OPTO ESCs then you'll need it from somewhere else. Some PDB boards provide it. See my Quadcopter Building for Beginners series for all my tips and tricks using modern tech - hope they help!
Hey painless.. great video.. Thanks for taking the time to make it. Question. I have the FrSky D4R-II. But I wanted to use quad with my Devention (walkera) transmitter. Will the naze32 will support the devention? I will have to use a break out cable correct? Is there anyway to make the break out cable vertical... so its not sitting outside the body. THanks
A couple of questions if I can. You didn't check the box for "full chip erase" when you installed the firmware at the start. Is this not necessary? Also, when you plugged in the speed controllers you used all the red wires. I thought this was a no-no, as it would be on a multi motor fixed wing model.
+Lee Wood I don't as a rule, If I'm getting an error or something isn't happy then I will tick the box on the next firmware upload as part of the troubleshooting. Adding/removing the red wires from the ESCs depends on the type of BEC in the ESC - see my other videos for a full explanation.. Happy flying!
Thanks for the great Video but am I right in think that you have all your esc power connections bridged together via the flight controller? (Ie connected in parallel) I take it that it hasn't caused you any problems.
+Stuart Smith yes they are, see our videos about power to see more about how switched and linear battery Eliminator circuit work and the precautions you need when using them. Best of luck!
I am building my first quad. I have the naze32 rev5 and the Radiolink AT9 transmitter and the R9D receiver. IF i go into cleanflight and go to the receiver tab and move the sticks on my transmitter only the roll moves, all other values are at middle. I then looked online and found a webpage with written instructions. It said to flash my naze with the latest firmware with naze in the naze and to check the box wipe board. I did this and now when i go to receiver tab the throttle is at about a 1/4 of the way up and I cant get any of the values to move. I have no idea what i'm doing wrong
i watched a video on RUclips that was really old and i used the same firmware that they did in the video, 1.7.0 and i set it up just like i had been and it worked.
Hi, you do need to be careful as some of the images and names used are confusing! The Funfly version that HobbyKing sells (www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__55819__AfroFlight_Naze32_Acro_AbuseMark_FunFly_Controller.html) is the one without the compass and baro. Happy flying!
Painless360 Lol! I have actually seen it labeled three different ways now. A lot of sites call the one without Mag and Baro the ACRO version and the one with Mag and Baro the FUNFLY version. The Abusemark site: www.abusemark.com/store calls them both Funfly as if Funfly was the brand name but distinguishes Funfly Controller "Acro Naze32" and Funfly Controller "Naze32" with "Naze32" being the full version. The only thing consistent has been the word Acro and the change in price. I guess I'll have to read carefully. Thanks for the info. I've learned a lot from your videos.
Thanks for the feedback! As if to underline your point I thought I'd ordered the funfly/lite/acro version for these videos and then realised that I had actually ordered the full version ( which will allow me to add things like GPS and make a more complete, better series now). Waaaay too confusing! I guess the only way to check is to see if the board has the Baro and Mag on it to have a clue which one your looking at! Apart from the price that is (good point!) Happy flying!
An update for people who are using the NAZE32 REV6a. it is a bit different than the one used in the video and I have been on it for several hours trying to figure out how to connect the NAZE to a PARALLEL receiver (In my case the FS-iA6), so I thought Id publish here the setup I am using and save some time for others. The NAZE32 REV6a has different connectors. The ESC connectors are identical but the receiver connectors are different. On the NAZE, if you align the board so the direction arrow is pointing up, the receiver pins connections are on the left, the two blank connectors (the once on the top with no labels next to them) are : upper - GND, second from the top - +5v. #1 is ROLL and PPM, #2 - PITCH, #3 - YAW, #4 - THROTTLE, #5 - AUX1 .... #8 - AUX4. Connect the GND (most upper pin on the NAZE) to the right most pin on the B/VCC pins line (The one closest to the edge of the receiver) of the receiver. The +5v (second from the top on the NAZE) to the middle pin on B/VCC pins line of the receiver. #1 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 1 most left pin on the receiver, #2 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 2 most left pin on the receiver, #3 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 3 most left pin on the receiver, #4 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 4 most left pin on the receiver. I tried to use the cable supplied with the NAZE but it did not work at any configuration. I had to use individual cable connector to make it work. Also when I connected the power and GND to any other pins the receiver worked but the channels did not match. Only when I connected it as described above did I get the right response. I tried to place images in this post but they did not show after sending the comment so you will have to do with the text. I hope its clear enough I hope that will save some time for others. Thanks for the video.
Painless, Can you please tell me or provide a link, Where you got the ant vibration mount for the Naze32 and also where do you get the leads which connect between the Naze32 and Rx. I thought I have seen you making these leads in another of your videos. Thanks for all your help Garry.
Hi, do you know if I can attach a 2-D gimbal to the Naze32 board? I was looking specifically at the Walkera G-2D gimbal. Your videos are great and help me so much! Thanks a bunch. -Jack
Hi there! I love your videos, they are by far the most informative and well-explained videos on this sort of thing out there. I was just wondering where you bought your Naze32? I've been searching online, and most places seem to only stock the "Acro" or "DOF" versions, but I can't seem to find the Full version. Also, a not-so-Naze32-related question: I'm trying to build a 250 quad, and all the instruction videos seem to use 1300mAh batteries (Or thereabouts). Some of the items I've looked at such as frame kits and pdb's recommend a range from 1300-2200mAh. I'm just curious to know if there's any reason I can't use a bigger battery? What would you recommend for maximum flight time and performance?
If you're looking at a new build then I'd go for something a little newer than the Naze32. The limited memory and horsepower on the Naze32 means that software is having to remove certain features to make it run/fit onto it now. I'd go for something running a STM32F3 or later processor now with more memory and ports. Regarding the battery - 1300-1400mAh packs are for racing and give you 3.5-5.5mins on average (depending on flight). I have a few models here that I fly with a 2200mAh pack (and fly less aggressively) and get 9-11 mins. The performance is impacted as the battery is a lot heavier but it's horses for courses.. Best of luck!
Thanks so much! I've searching, and none of the options I can find mention anything about a magnetometer, which is actually what I was looking for most out of the Naze32 full version. Ultimately I want to enable GPS as per video 6 (I think) of this series. The MotoLab Tornado FC seems like a good option, but again, mentions nothing about a magnetometer.Can you recommend any flight controllers running a STM32F3 processor that would allow me to enable GPS hold/RTH etc?
+Luke Metcalfe I'd suggest looking at the Inav series on the channel. We use two of the most useful boards for GPS and cover more of the gotchas. Best of luck!
Hi painless, May sound a stupid question, but it's the naze 32 board, limited to small size quads only. Was hoping to install one on a 450 Dji type frame.
Fred Kaz You can use them on any size model. I use little Multiwii boards on 450 class quads all the time. It doesn't care about the size of the quad/hex you are installing it on. :) Best of luck with the build.
Hello again there Painless, just want to say thanks for all the help answering my questions in recent weeks, but have recently stumbled on another problem with the drifting. I have two flip32, one on a QAV250, and one on a F450. For some reason they seem to drift toward the same direction to the East, no matter my orientation it somehow just drift towards the same direction. Is there a way to trim that out. I'm on CleanFlight and there a few settings on there like the Accelarometer trim, don't know if that something to mess with,and what does the TPA ajustment do on cleanflight, just trying to get them stable to fly. Oh one more thing would a auto tune clean that drifting out might give a try. Thanks again painless;)
Hello there friend, another question. Is it possible to do auto tune with two position switch or has to be three. I tried it with a DX6i, one switch on horizon mode and the other in autotune, thing is when I hit switch to auto tune while in air seems like nothing happens, think there should be some twitching and moving going on before a beep yes. Mine just sits still just wondering. Thank You Painless reply whenever possible:)
if I might ask a question are you leaving all of your power and ground wires hooked up to the esc pins. Because I always thought you could only use esc power in from 1 esc not all of them.
jan engelen Not yet as the autotune feature in Cleanflight can cause crashes. There is a video that helps you understand manual tuning though - ruclips.net/video/fNYu5coR6Sg/видео.html Hope it helps.
Hello, what made you decide in your frame build here, not to go with the battery on top or in the middle of the quadcopter. If there is a video here about that, I'm sorry I missed it. Thanks for your good info videos.
+Andre Campbell Every frame has a layout that the designer has in mind when he/she designed it. I tend to follow that layout as these frames can present a challenge to fit everything in if you want to add lots of extra little bits (FPV, OSD, GPS etc.) and also try and be creative with component placement.I have lots of frames on the channel and each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Best of luck.
Could you possibly give us a step by step guide for the Rev6 board on how to hook up the d4rii telemetry. And also, how to connect telemetry using the x8r receiver? Like where to hook each wire to and what to set in cleanflight?
Thanks for this series but I went thru it all but seems I missed the setting on Failsave. Should we set the quad to thro all the way down and let me fall from sky when trans is fail? Or just lowering the thro to let me land itself? Which one is the best?
+wing hum thomas fung IMHO, failsafe is about primarily protecting people and property, not your drone. I do cover setting the failsafe to be zero throttle using the failsafe function of the receiver so that the drone comes down as quickly as it can (in practice the props act as airbrakes in the decent from any height to slow the craft and stabilise it) and you could also set the failsafe in the code to turn the props well below hover point to descend. See the documentation for Cleanflight on that feature. Best of luck.
Painless360 Wanted to suggest an idea for your naze playlist,how about a tutorial on how to setup blackbox? I'm sure there are loads of people wanting the quick and dirty (aka painless) version on how to set it up on the naze :)
I am trying to set up a Naze32 Rev 5 on a Quanum Trifecta Tricopter. I have only had previous experience on CC3D Flight Controller and found that relatively easy to set up. I was able to solder the connectors on myself and flash the empty Naze32 with the current software. I am using a Taranis Plus radio with OrangeRx module and trying a OrangeRx R410X which has both PWM and CPPM capability. Since my Trfiecta is a tricopter, Rear motor is #1, Front RH motor is #2 and Front LH Motor is #3. However when I plug these motors in in sequence at pins 1 through 3 (counting from the RHS), the mapping of motors/ESC are incorrect using CleanFlight Motor test. Also, regradless if I use PWM or CPPM, I am unable to power my RX from the FC after a successful bind. I measured the voltage coming out of the 5v and GND and I read only 0.7volts on my meter. Where Am I going wrong or have I damaged my FC board during soldering. I have checked I have no short circuits on the board. Please comment, thanks!
+Etops Flight I'd check that the outputs are plugged in the right way (see 21:07 in the video) and confirm that you have the right pins for the 5v too.. Best of luck..
+Painless360 Followed your video to the tee. You didn''t show how to connect the receiver cables but I think I go that figured out. Just realised that my Afro 12A ESC's only have two cables on the plug, it seems only a ground and signal wire, the middle red wire is missing. Is this normal and how will affect my setup? Etops
Nevermind, found another of your useful videos about Opto ESC's. Had to power the FC separately using a UBEC (robbed from a DLG) and now the Rx has power but all my motors/rudder servo mappings all all over the place/not responding! Thanks for your videos!
Just received a full Naze32 board and followed your video instructions, which are very clear and easy to follow. However, after flashing, the board is displaying the blue light and a red light. Might you be able to help me understand what is going on and why I do not have just the blue light as you have in the video?? Thanks for the video and your help.
Hi, did you install additional software before connecting the NAZE32 to your USB ? Any drivers ? pre install software other than ClaenFlight ? NAZE32 is not recognized and CleanFlight has only COM1 which is not connected to the NAZE.
Different subject but i am just trying to pass on info to you, don't know if you have used the "Goodluckbuy" site, i found it by accident and spotted a little module (Fpv N1 OSD) that works with the "Naza M Lite" and is only £13.64 and it works great, since i connected it to my naza it does not drift an inch, there are 3 different OSD display modes you can use, there are plenty of users on youtube instructing how to set it up as you don't get instructions with it, well worth it for this price.
Hi Painless! I am very very new to quads and flight controllers. I found your series of videos and I am happy to see step by step explanations. However, I've run into a bit of a snag. I was able to get the accelerometer calibrated with no troubles. However, I could not get the magnetometer calibrated. When you move the cursor over an option, the little pointer arrow turns to a pointer finger. However, when I moved my cursor over the "Calibrate Magnetometer", the pointer cursor did not turn to a point finger. It's as if the "Calibrate Magnetometer" is not a selectable option. Would you have any ideas on what I should do?
***** it depends on the board version you have, if you have the basic version without the magnetometer then you will not be able to select this option. I cover the differences in the baords towards the start of this video. Hope it helps.
Thanks for the reply! I just went back to your video and, true enough, you did state the the "Funfly" version of the Naze32 does not have a magnetometer. Perhaps I should pay closer attention to your video from now on, lol.
+ST Logan I'd check you are using compatible firmware with the GUI (it updates all the time) and make sure that nothing else is plugged into UART1 when using USB... Best of luck..
Hi there , thanks for the videos in the frsky transmitter !!! I have brought a eachine racer with a cc3d board in. I fancy putting GPS on it for hold and RTH. Is it possible or should I look at getting a Naza 32 kit. Thankyou for your help 👍🏻
Sorry, we're not planning to. There are lots of new controllers that now include extra features like F4 processors, vector OSDs and integrated PDB, OSD and F3 based FC that they are what we will be covering next.. We've looked at lots of F3 based boards in the channel and they are all very similar.. Happy flying!
hi, a hard question, what u prefer naze32 or openpilot or pixhawk ? witch is more stable fly or witch is more agile ... and 1 silly q can we do a 360 roll like the one with preseted button ? Thanks great vid., great explain
+Painless360 i order the same frame like u have here but with cc3d and flysky i6 remote and receiver and i want to put some stuff like gps, gimbal,fpv and i want to know witch is best, but i want to make another one with 250 frame like thoes that are racing one, but in the future. BTW i`m noob i dont get my hand on a remote and a drone before :)) hope to get it right i will watch vid. now ty.
I have videos on learning to fly and always recommend that if you are new then by a little Hubsan X4 to learn to fly with. Less expensive andante dangerous to learn on.. The CC3D series on the channel is designed for new pilots and builders and goes through every step. Best of luck.
+Painless360 Thanks i will wait to all my parts arrive, till then i will watch your vid. with how to fly. I allready make order u can watch on my google+ what parts i order, but they are order before to see your video, now i have cc3d but monday will buy a naze32 is nice with all feature. Thanks
Hey there, wondering if I need to install Cleanflight for my new Naze 32 or if I can use LibrePilot like I do with my cc3d. Great videos, super helpful. Keep up the awesome job
I was determined to build my own multirotor and after some research started to buy some of the components, motors Esc's and a full Naze. Then realised I didn't have a clue and it was all much more complicated than I thought. The more videos I watched the more I started to lose faith in my ability to achieve my goal.
Enter Painless360. After watching just a few of your videos I feel that I am back on track and it is all starting to fall into place. Thanks for clear, informative and interesting videos. You have given me hope and inspiration once again.
Thanks very much for a great series of videos.
Your Naze32 video series has been a lifesaver for me. Thanks to you I've become a Naze guru and can get a new quad setup and flying in only a few minutes time. Thanks!
Thank You!!!! Im a new user and I had no idea how to get clean flight and no one else showed it like you did. I spent 3 hours trying to figure it out and you showed how in just a couple of minutes. no one else shows how to install clean flight on your computer...THANK YOU!!!!
Glad it helped! Best of luck with the build!
You're videos have helped me a LOT. Thank you Sir...
I'm an old RC pilot of about 35 years now. A little bit of catching up i need to do it seems. I'm using Open Pilot for the quads i now have, your videos have made ALL the difference in grabbing on to a kinda' sharp learning curve. Still have some questions but, i'll be getting to those as i go. So far, all the flights have been very stable, predictable and most fun to fly. You may not realize just how much you're helping the community with these but i promise, it's much more than you may realize. For that, i really do appreciate the time and effort you've put into making these videos for us. :)
+Danoman Brammer Thanks for the feedback. It is always a pleasure to hear from pilots who find the channel helpful but especially from those who feel we've helped them get into the air in new ways. Happy flying!
You've made all the difference,Sir...
I wanted to let you know I fixed the issue previously mentioned,.. after all the trouble I went thru with Win 7 and what I thought was an issue a friend in the hobby mentioned and was right- check the USB cable as some do not provide enough power. I, happily, just flashed MY CONTROLLER CARD!!!
Lovely video. Please keep up ALL your good work as I do get much out of a whole array of your subjects!
Thank You!
I have used the information in your video tutorials to set up APM's for fixed wing and had considerable success, thank you. I am building my first tricopter using a Quanum Illuminati 32; which is similar to Naze, this video tutorial has been invaluable. Thank you very much.
+Steve Cowell glad you found the videos helpful, happy flying!
I have soldered a dozen of these or more to date- I took a tip from mochaboy on my first board and have kept to it successfully since.
I take a small bit of flux and wipe across the header holes before and after placing pins. I get a tiny drop of solder on the tip of the iron and touch it to the pin and it will draw down the pin and make a perfect joint every time. Quick, clean, and no boards trashed yet *knocks on wood*
Another fine video tutorial !
Thanks Hiway, I do like this board, like Multiwii on steroids. Interested in how easy it is to add things like GPS next..
Happy flying sir!
Painless360 If you plan on doing GPS, read up on the harikari fork of baseflight, or the PID controller that represents this in cleanflight as that was where I left off- when I want GPS features I go with APM- I use the Naze as intended- acro and racing flying, and pure fpv goodness. No crutches or nets.
thanks, adding GPS to this board is the number one request from the subscribers on the channel. Happy flying!
Painless360
That is because it is the folks that want all the locked in feel of a 32 bit FC, but the safety net of a Naza... it may be prudent to read some of the old timecop-isms to understand why there is only recently an effort to nail down the GPS and autonomous features. He built the naze for acro and fpv- so he never gave a shyte about GPS.
You did good and expectedly wise to go with cleanflight. Check out Dominic's channel for up to date info on the led programming, and the PID controller info- Oscar is another if you want some deep reading. I am sure you have already found all this info. You tend to be very well read and prepared for your videos. This Naze32 is a beast to try and parse down and summarize- it is so dynamic. Open source is not for the faint of heart- or patience.
Painless360 Thanks for this.
What would be great is an easy how to on Telemetry and Led setup as well. A lot of other videos just seem to get lost in technical jargon and are hard to follow or understand Cheers again.
Hi painless, I always find things work much better when you have set your Tx up, you need the mid point at 1500 (mostly)
bottom at 1000, top at 2000. If you've got a neutral (no trim on) Tx, and you plug it in and all channels are say 1520, change mid_rc to 1520. Adjust your start/middle/endpoints to match 1000,1500,2000.
Also, if you need to calibrate all ESC's at once, remove props (naturally) and plug board in with no battery power, set min_throttle to 1850 (or your highest throttle setting) you can now do this on the config page... save (reboot) plug in power, ESC's should go to programming mode, change min throttle back to 1050 (or your minimum throttle setting) save... viola!
With this board it is better to trim your Tx/Rx to what the board expects, not what your Tx is telling you ;-)
I new to all this but after seeing your videos i ordered everything i needed to build one in my dead DJI phantom ,great success still trying to get the gps to talk to the board but it fly’s very well, what i love about this setup is you can shape everything cleanflight is great,
yep spot on Lee thank you very much rev6 is printed on the board I will wait until I can chat to the team and see where I go from here once again you are a star I will keep you posted just in case anyone else has the same issue
Hi Painless 360, i'm a beginner for Fpv and mini quads, i'm starting to select, compare and check a lot of datas about this and yours videos series are very very interesting for me and seroiusly with yous comments on Naze 32...! Thank's a lot for all this...
Fly safe...............Philippe
+Drones Visions Aériennes Our MiniQuad series starts tomorrow so that should be interesting!
Excellent video! Very clear and concise! I just bought my first Naze32 (Full) board and to find a video to guide me. I must admit, my hands were shivering when i was soldering those pins onto the board. :-)
Thank you very much this been very helpful I been Fly control planes about six years just started to get into quad Quatro's first one a little 250 keep up the good work we need more people like you
Thanks for a great video,you are the first person to note the Naze32 heading pointing north after calibration,i thought mine was broken,but that clears it up for me
looking forward to part 2
Thanks for the comment, the next one is out later today!
Happy flying..
I love what is happening with cleanflight. It is running on many different boards (including simple STM32 dev boards from ebay if you supply your own sensors; also from ebay). That means you can use more powerful processors. Computing power is enough with all of them at the moment, but there are many that have much more IO hardware built in. I can't wait to have it running on a board that has 5 hardware serial ports so I can use SBUS, SmartPort telemetry, 5Hz GPS, blackbox recording and CLI for inflight tuning via smartphone bluetooth at the same time!
just want to thank u for your responses and videos. my first build came out great.
Wonderful! Happy flying!
Wow another set of tutorial, very nice! I've been configuring my 250 Quad for about 2weeks now with this FC. I'm happy that you made this video tutorial so that I can sum up all of my knowledge! :D
Thank you Painless360.
This is 100% the info I needed, to decide where to start for building my first quad.
You make it look easy. Your explanations are plain english and easy to follow.
Very interested to see your other video on GPS.
Cheers
Lots more videos in this series! Including GPS..
Verry good video. Clear language, good camera procedure, simple professional.
Thank you.
Thank you for the series. They were invaluable in getting me into the air, which I am doing as often as the good weather allows. Just wanted you to know that your work is very much appreciated.
+More Luck Than Judgement Thank you for the comment, always nice to hear when the series has helped another pilot!
I've never seen a video this complete, It's absolutely awesome, and as well useful. Thanks bro !
Been thro a few of the vids for this board from different subscribers, a nice clear concise explanation, thanks ! look forward to the next one . I have been running this board on a 250 racer , set up by a much more experienced friend , I intend to do another one myself ( hopefully!)
Thanks Derek! Very appreciated. I hope this series gives you what you need to setup the next one yourself. Let me know if I miss something!
Happy flying!
hey there! i just wanted to let you know that your channel is great!
i just switched from cc3d to naze32 and i am really happy that you have a series of videos for this fc too. :)
thanks for all the work you put in this
and greetings from vienna/austria!
fidi
+fidi fpv Thank you! Happy flying..
Thanks for the Naze32 full videos they really helped when setting up my 450 quad
To calibrate your ESCs , connect to Cleanflight/Baseflight without your flight battery connected. Go to the Motors tab and tick the box (props off!).Using the main slider , slide all four motor inputs to the top , it should give a value equal to your maximum throttle setting. Connect your flight battery and wait for the ESCs to beep , when they have done their thing slide the main slider back down to zero and the ESCs should beep once again. Viola your ESCs are calibrated.
i like this tip. Nice
Nice Video, thanks Painless. Based on my recent experience, a warning is in order. FLY-AWAY RISK!!!!!! Last weekend I removed the KK2.1.5 FC board that I had used for weeks on my big quadcopter. I installed a Naze32 (non Baro) board. I took it out and made 4 short test flights, bringing it back inside to the computer and making small adjustments. I was satisfied with the basic setup and was going to call it a night as the light was going fast. I turned off my Turnigy 9x transmitter (with the Nase32 still armed). A second later the big Quad came to full power and flew off into the woods. I haven't found it yet, but will continue to look. With another Naze32 board this week, I confirmed what had happened. The new board is actually a DragonFly32 Pro (baro and magnetometer version). When set up (without doing anything with failsafe), it did (under controlled conditions indoors) the same thing. Powered up and armed, motors run up then back down to zero (motors off). Leave armed and turn off transmitter. A second later the motors go to full power. I NOW have the DragonFly32 Pro configured to RUN the motors when armed...they are just barely ticking over. This gives me an absolute positive confirmation that the board is ARMED or DIS-ARMED. In addition, I now have the failsafe on the DragonFly32 activated, and per several tests, it works as advertised. Both the Naze32 and the DragonFly32 were/are running the same version of CleanFlight with same NAZE32 firmware installed. I have no idea whey the board makers would configure the default settings of the board to permit the motors to go to full power in case of signal loss and ALSO have a default setting of failsafe OFF. You may or may not cover this in your subsequent videos, but a person who has gone through this first one may give in to the temptation to take the copter out and fly it. Without an active FAILSAFE, and without a POSITIVE means of assuring that the board is DIS-ARMED, a fly-away is a very real possibility.
Brian Kuehn.
Hi Brian, sorry to hear about that but even in the world of digital radios and failsafe you must ALWAYS turn off the model first. I still carry scars from 450 class helicopters starting up un-commanded in my early days..
Happy flying!
Same thing happend to me Brian. I grabbed it and it nearly cut my finger off as it tried to take off! (I play bass guitar too) Of course you turn the model off 1st, but occasionally after a few beers you land, and start switching things off... Hell we do it with Naza's never have a problem. Auto dis-arm is da shit.
One tip for whom cannot find the glue, I usually use normal tape to fix the pins, they will be stable. :) quite easier.
Your videos are the best on u tube mate, keep up the good work .You have help so many of us to achieve builds
when most kits come with out plans or instructions.....many many thanks
You're welcome - have great festive season!
I want one of these flight controllers but can not solder that finely. Awesome video. You do a fantastic job showing what a person needs to do step vy step.
+Tim Miller Thanks for that, get a fine tip for the soldering iron and a magnifying glass and you'll be amazed at what you can do.. Best of luck!
Nah I've tried burned boards and components it's like giving super glue and a propane torch to a toddler
:D
Thanks Lee I'm sure it did say rev 6 on it I will check it out and get back to you I will get in touch with hobby rc coz their live chat was good so I will try tomorrow when they are open thanks again I will keep you updated
well done, without a doubt the best instructional video on youtube, and will be changing from base flight to clean flight. thanks for spending the time
yep, monday i will buy a naze32 is the best for what i want, thanks for video.
Great videos explaining setup of the Naze32 and will be a great help when I do a first time fit of one of these soon :)
Awesome setup can't wait for gps setup
Brilliant info Very well explained and easy to understand! Thanks Very much! Keep up the good work!!!
Thank you! I saw your video. I'm getting full version now.
Oh yes that it is. Looking forward to it mate. Cheers
Thanks for this video; very clear and well explained.
Great video explaining the set up
Excellent tutorial Lee, onto the next one
Thanks a lot for the high level of detail!
Like always, great information and again thank you for your information!!
Thanks man! You're a legend! This will help me a lot with my first build which is on it's way in the post! :D
Great video very easy to follow. Thanks so much.
Quadcopter Fan You're welcome :)
When I plug in the naze to the computer everything goes as planned except the green light stays on and has a slow blink. I can adjust the motors and accelerometer and everything works fine but I cannot arm the board because the green light is still blinking. Any ideas?
you need to hook up your rx and transmitter. then in clean flight adjust transmitter travel so the points are around 1000 low end and 2000 high end. my dx6e needs around 150 for travel settings. then setup a switch to arm with. once you have it disarmed and throttle low point is correct light will go off
What I did forget to tell you is that the pin layout is a little different where you put ppm there is about 8 or 9 pins on that row now too
Great, thanks. That's the next fc I want to buy.
Awesome, and informative! Thanks
Well - autotune only if your pids are factory default! I broke an arm on an Diatone FPV250. Since that frame is sturdy it shows the power in this small quad. But... I got loads of spare parts now!!!
Sorry Painless. I guess I felt like you were right here -- not on a video. The portion where you try throttle, roll yaw etc-- I turned on the receiver, made sure it is bound. All ESC's are hooked to the engine order profile. I tried to arm it through the transmitter. When I plug in the Li Battery, green and blue lights come on on the flight controller-- and the receiver powers up. It remains connected to cleanflight throughout. The esc's are in order starting from the end-- opposite the end that says "Beep". It is probably a dumb thing I did-- but there are no dumb questions. Thanks for your help in advance.
+Bud Jones hi, was this in relation to something? It helps if you can reply to the original thread if it is. Sorry we to get you to move it but we get dozens and dozens of questions, messages and comments every day so it's almost impossible to keep track if it isn't linked into the existing conversation in the comments via a 'reply '. Thanks
+Bud Jones p,s, just saw the original question! Check that the reciever settings in Cleanflight match how you've got it wired up. Defaults to PWM. Best of luck!
Thanks for the video!
Many many thanks man.. well done.
What's crazy is that the Naze32 boards are now cheaper than the Multiwii SE! I have been using a arduino MEGA with the I2C connected to a dead/fried multiwii SE (the board got hit with 12V! Insta-killed the micro, but sensors are OK! :D) but I had a bad crash and messed up the wiring of this rat's nest (with GPS, UART, minumOSD, etc) so this seems like the most obvious upgrade/repair path!
If you like GPS then I'd look at a SP3 now. See our hidden series on iNav for GPS flight modes that work great - just like Multiwii! :D
I'll take a look at it! I already ordered a NAZE32 board with the MPU6500, MS5611 baro, and HMC5983 mag. These are supposedly really good sensors. The MPU6500 acc/gyro has a refresh rate of 35HKz over SPI, vs the older MPU6050 which is a slower sensor using I2C. Would it be worth canceling the order? I am shopping in the $30 price range.
It would be nice to be able to reuse as much of my multiwii accessories as possible, like the GPS module and the minimOSD which appear to be compatible with cleanflight. Given that the "language" multiwii and cleanflight use are very simalar, I would think the minimOSD should work without requiring firmware changes.
+Power Max Cleanflight is the grandson of MultiWii and still talks MSP (MultiWii serial protocol) just like the old days so most of the kit will work with little change. Best of luck!
I figured :) I am now trying to find a cheap F3 board with the sensors this one had. That's seems to be non-existent. Way too many "acro" versions available. I realized that 32K refresh rate is way overkill for a board that struggles at 2K cycles per second, unless the MPU6500 can be configured with averaging... Does cleanflight support the F3 boards or am I wasting my time?
I have just started building a 250 quad, and am setting up a Naze32, following your videos. If I use version 1.7 of the firmware, all lights are as you describe. If I use version 1.12, the blue light comes on steady, but the flashing red and green don't. One goes off,but the one right next to the blue light continues flashing. The board still connects OK, but with one flashing light. And the motors do not spin, in either version (I do not have the receiver connected yet). Advice?
+Richard Baker Tricky to suggest what to try without a lot mode detail. I'd follow the videos and try it with the Rx and power connected to everything.. Best of luck.
Cheers mate, you are a legend.
Thanks so much for this video Painless. With regard to the motor testing at the end... if you found that one of your motors was NOT turning in the correct direction, is it possible to change the direction through this software.... as opposed to resoldering the wires? Thanks again!
There is no option in software as its the ESC not the flight controller that drives the motors. Swap any two of the wires from the ESC to the motor. I use bullets to make go easier repairs and setup myself..
Best of luck!
This is an "old" video by now, not the content.. but by upload date that is ;) I still love watching these videos, I even rewatch them because I refresh my memory.
However, I have a Naze32 Rev6 board laying around and for some reason I have a vague memory that you've done some videos on that board, only if its just one video - vague memory! But I can't find any. I thought you had a video on the connections on the Rev6 for use with PWM inputs and GPS on Soft Uart.
I don't know, maybe it wasn't from your channel? I remember seeing both picture connection diagrams and at least a video on the subject, but I just can't find it anymore. I was sure I had downloaded/saved it on my storage drive as well, but I just can't find it.. Wondering if I've dreamed it up somehow.. hehe..
If you have time and interest, let me know if you've done these videos and perhaps removed them for some reason or if you just haven't done any of those.. I sure you have made them though, as your setup videos are the best on all of RUclips! =D
Hello, you seem to like the Naze32 very much. So is there no reason from choosing a MultiWii SE 2.5 over this flight controller? Thanks
I am new to this Quad R/C game and found your video very very helpful, well spoken and clear with the instructions. How do I find the next video in this series? I have subscribed and gave it a thumbs up. Cheers
Hi Ronald, each of the videos like this is arranged into a playlist so they are easy to find and play. You can see all my playlists by visiting ruclips.net/user/Painless360playlists?view=1&sort=dd
Happy flying!
Very good video as usual but I would add one point if I may. You connect the + and - from the esc on the naze32 ONLY ON MOTOR 1 all the other motors you connect the SIGNAL ONLY !!
Thanks for the reply. This is only true if the BECs are switched. Interestingly there is a video on this very subject to be published on the channel on 'Tip Tuesday' next week as I didn't have time to cover it here.
Thanks again, happy flying!
Thanks for that. For the sake of people in this hobby (my self included) I would veer on the side of caution
Wait till Tuesday ;) This video was already up to 30 mins and the explanation of the power system and options takes at least 6..
Happy flying!
Hi Painnless360, I have a few questions after watching your video:
1. For NAze32 6DOF rev5, can we use opto escs? if possible, how to connect?
2. How to connect the FC with PWM configuration for spektrum DX6I transmitter and AR610 receiver?
3. at 19:10, you mentioned 5v, where do you get the 5v from?
1) Yes you can
2) See the rest of the playlist - it's all covered
3) If you're using OPTO ESCs then you'll need it from somewhere else. Some PDB boards provide it.
See my Quadcopter Building for Beginners series for all my tips and tricks using modern tech - hope they help!
What differences, if any can I expect for the Naze 32 rev6 or 6a? Thanks.
+VD2021 That's a question for the vendor :) Happy flying!
Hey painless.. great video.. Thanks for taking the time to make it. Question. I have the FrSky D4R-II. But I wanted to use quad with my Devention (walkera) transmitter. Will the naze32 will support the devention? I will have to use a break out cable correct? Is there anyway to make the break out cable vertical... so its not sitting outside the body. THanks
+Mark H Sorry, I've not used that radio. Best of luck with it!
looking forward to your GPS + naze32 vid, please include flight test with Hold and RTH.
Please tell which one is better cc3d vs Naze32 10DOF vs KK 2.1.5
They are all very old flight control hardware that isn't supported by modern firmware. ruclips.net/video/r0TIkxU8Zbs/видео.html
A couple of questions if I can. You didn't check the box for "full chip erase" when you installed the firmware at the start. Is this not necessary? Also, when you plugged in the speed controllers you used all the red wires. I thought this was a no-no, as it would be on a multi motor fixed wing model.
+Lee Wood I don't as a rule, If I'm getting an error or something isn't happy then I will tick the box on the next firmware upload as part of the troubleshooting. Adding/removing the red wires from the ESCs depends on the type of BEC in the ESC - see my other videos for a full explanation.. Happy flying!
Thanks for the great Video but am I right in think that you have all your esc power connections bridged together via the flight controller? (Ie connected in parallel) I take it that it hasn't caused you any problems.
+Stuart Smith yes they are, see our videos about power to see more about how switched and linear battery Eliminator circuit work and the precautions you need when using them. Best of luck!
I am building my first quad. I have the naze32 rev5 and the Radiolink AT9 transmitter and the R9D receiver. IF i go into cleanflight and go to the receiver tab and move the sticks on my transmitter only the roll moves, all other values are at middle. I then looked online and found a webpage with written instructions. It said to flash my naze with the latest firmware with naze in the naze and to check the box wipe board. I did this and now when i go to receiver tab the throttle is at about a 1/4 of the way up and I cant get any of the values to move.
I have no idea what i'm doing wrong
i watched a video on RUclips that was really old and i used the same firmware that they did in the video, 1.7.0 and i set it up just like i had been and it worked.
I believe the Funfly is actually the Full version and the Acro is the one without the Mag and Pressure sensor. Please double check.
Hi, you do need to be careful as some of the images and names used are confusing!
The Funfly version that HobbyKing sells (www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__55819__AfroFlight_Naze32_Acro_AbuseMark_FunFly_Controller.html) is the one without the compass and baro.
Happy flying!
Painless360 Lol! I have actually seen it labeled three different ways now. A lot of sites call the one without Mag and Baro the ACRO version and the one with Mag and Baro the FUNFLY version. The Abusemark site: www.abusemark.com/store calls them both Funfly as if Funfly was the brand name but distinguishes Funfly Controller "Acro Naze32" and Funfly Controller "Naze32" with "Naze32" being the full version. The only thing consistent has been the word Acro and the change in price. I guess I'll have to read carefully. Thanks for the info. I've learned a lot from your videos.
Thanks for the feedback! As if to underline your point I thought I'd ordered the funfly/lite/acro version for these videos and then realised that I had actually ordered the full version ( which will allow me to add things like GPS and make a more complete, better series now). Waaaay too confusing!
I guess the only way to check is to see if the board has the Baro and Mag on it to have a clue which one your looking at! Apart from the price that is (good point!)
Happy flying!
An update for people who are using the NAZE32 REV6a. it is a bit different than the one used in the video and I have been on it for several hours trying to figure out how to connect the NAZE to a PARALLEL receiver (In my case the FS-iA6), so I thought Id publish here the setup I am using and save some time for others.
The NAZE32 REV6a has different connectors. The ESC connectors are identical but the receiver connectors are different.
On the NAZE, if you align the board so the direction arrow is pointing up, the receiver pins connections are on the left, the two blank connectors (the once on the top with no labels next to them) are : upper - GND, second from the top - +5v. #1 is ROLL and PPM, #2 - PITCH, #3 - YAW, #4 - THROTTLE, #5 - AUX1 .... #8 - AUX4.
Connect the GND (most upper pin on the NAZE) to the right most pin on the B/VCC pins line (The one closest to the edge of the receiver) of the receiver. The +5v (second from the top on the NAZE) to the middle pin on B/VCC pins line of the receiver. #1 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 1 most left pin on the receiver, #2 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 2 most left pin on the receiver, #3 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 3 most left pin on the receiver, #4 on the NAZE to CHANNEL 4 most left pin on the receiver.
I tried to use the cable supplied with the NAZE but it did not work at any configuration. I had to use individual cable connector to make it work. Also when I connected the power and GND to any other pins the receiver worked but the channels did not match. Only when I connected it as described above did I get the right response.
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I hope that will save some time for others.
Thanks for the video.
+ehboym1 thanks for posting. Nice work!
great stuff, we used to live in Tarvin .. guess it's close to you somewhere ... :-)
Yep, about 10 miles as the quad flies :)
Painless, Can you please tell me or provide a link, Where you got the ant vibration mount for the Naze32 and also where do you get the leads which connect between the Naze32 and Rx. I thought I have seen you making these leads in another of your videos. Thanks for all your help Garry.
Garry Nutter the PWM cable should come with the controller - I would go back and ask the supplier. Best of luck.
Your playlist link for this one doesn't seem to work.
No biggie as the playlist does work still
Hi, do you know if I can attach a 2-D gimbal to the Naze32 board? I was looking specifically at the Walkera G-2D gimbal. Your videos are great and help me so much! Thanks a bunch.
-Jack
Hi there! I love your videos, they are by far the most informative and well-explained videos on this sort of thing out there. I was just wondering where you bought your Naze32? I've been searching online, and most places seem to only stock the "Acro" or "DOF" versions, but I can't seem to find the Full version. Also, a not-so-Naze32-related question: I'm trying to build a 250 quad, and all the instruction videos seem to use 1300mAh batteries (Or thereabouts). Some of the items I've looked at such as frame kits and pdb's recommend a range from 1300-2200mAh. I'm just curious to know if there's any reason I can't use a bigger battery? What would you recommend for maximum flight time and performance?
If you're looking at a new build then I'd go for something a little newer than the Naze32. The limited memory and horsepower on the Naze32 means that software is having to remove certain features to make it run/fit onto it now. I'd go for something running a STM32F3 or later processor now with more memory and ports. Regarding the battery - 1300-1400mAh packs are for racing and give you 3.5-5.5mins on average (depending on flight). I have a few models here that I fly with a 2200mAh pack (and fly less aggressively) and get 9-11 mins. The performance is impacted as the battery is a lot heavier but it's horses for courses.. Best of luck!
Thanks so much! I've searching, and none of the options I can find mention anything about a magnetometer, which is actually what I was looking for most out of the Naze32 full version. Ultimately I want to enable GPS as per video 6 (I think) of this series. The MotoLab Tornado FC seems like a good option, but again, mentions nothing about a magnetometer.Can you recommend any flight controllers running a STM32F3 processor that would allow me to enable GPS hold/RTH etc?
+Luke Metcalfe I'd suggest looking at the Inav series on the channel. We use two of the most useful boards for GPS and cover more of the gotchas. Best of luck!
Where did you purchase the ppm cable for the orange receiver?
Great Video, that helped me a lot. Thank you very much!
Hi painless,
May sound a stupid question, but it's the naze 32 board, limited to small size quads only. Was hoping to install one on a 450 Dji type frame.
Fred Kaz You can use them on any size model. I use little Multiwii boards on 450 class quads all the time. It doesn't care about the size of the quad/hex you are installing it on. :)
Best of luck with the build.
Hello again there Painless, just want to say thanks for all the help answering my questions in recent weeks, but have recently stumbled on another problem with the drifting. I have two flip32, one on a QAV250, and one on a F450. For some reason they seem to drift toward the same direction to the East, no matter my orientation it somehow just drift towards the same direction. Is there a way to trim that out. I'm on CleanFlight and there a few settings on there like the Accelarometer trim, don't know if that something to mess with,and what does the TPA ajustment do on cleanflight, just trying to get them stable to fly. Oh one more thing would a auto tune clean that drifting out might give a try. Thanks again painless;)
Yep. Autotune. Best of luck
Hello there friend, another question. Is it possible to do auto tune with two position switch or has to be three. I tried it with a DX6i, one switch on horizon mode and the other in autotune, thing is when I hit switch to auto tune while in air seems like nothing happens, think there should be some twitching and moving going on before a beep yes. Mine just sits still just wondering. Thank You Painless reply whenever possible:)
if I might ask a question are you leaving all of your power and ground wires hooked up to the esc pins. Because I always thought you could only use esc power in from 1 esc not all of them.
+Mick Schlosser Watch the videos about RC power in the 'Introduction to RC' playlist as we have a few videos that cover this.. Best of luck.
Hi, Is there allready an episode on autotuning PIDs on how this works in cleanflight ?
regards. Jan
jan engelen Not yet as the autotune feature in Cleanflight can cause crashes. There is a video that helps you understand manual tuning though - ruclips.net/video/fNYu5coR6Sg/видео.html
Hope it helps.
Hello, what made you decide in your frame build here, not to go with the battery on top or in the middle of the quadcopter. If there is a video here about that, I'm sorry I missed it. Thanks for your good info videos.
+Andre Campbell Every frame has a layout that the designer has in mind when he/she designed it. I tend to follow that layout as these frames can present a challenge to fit everything in if you want to add lots of extra little bits (FPV, OSD, GPS etc.) and also try and be creative with component placement.I have lots of frames on the channel and each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Best of luck.
Copy that! Thanks for your insights.
Could you possibly give us a step by step guide for the Rev6 board on how to hook up the d4rii telemetry. And also, how to connect telemetry using the x8r receiver? Like where to hook each wire to and what to set in cleanflight?
+Christopher Hemmings I think I'm in the same boat as you with the rev6, but I'm using the 9xrpro opentx with the FrSky telemetry DJT on the back
Thanks for this series but I went thru it all but seems I missed the setting on Failsave. Should we set the quad to thro all the way down and let me fall from sky when trans is fail? Or just lowering the thro to let me land itself? Which one is the best?
+wing hum thomas fung IMHO, failsafe is about primarily protecting people and property, not your drone.
I do cover setting the failsafe to be zero throttle using the failsafe function of the receiver so that the drone comes down as quickly as it can (in practice the props act as airbrakes in the decent from any height to slow the craft and stabilise it) and you could also set the failsafe in the code to turn the props well below hover point to descend. See the documentation for Cleanflight on that feature.
Best of luck.
Your videos are great
ziddy1478 Thank you!
Painless360 Wanted to suggest an idea for your naze playlist,how about a tutorial on how to setup blackbox? I'm sure there are loads of people wanting the quick and dirty (aka painless) version on how to set it up on the naze :)
Blackbox will be covered as part of the upcoming SeriouslyPro series.. Watch this space!
awesome! will that be the same configuration on the naze though?
Cleanflight is Cleanflight ;)
I am trying to set up a Naze32 Rev 5 on a Quanum Trifecta Tricopter. I have only had previous experience on CC3D Flight Controller and found that relatively easy to set up.
I was able to solder the connectors on myself and flash the empty Naze32 with the current software. I am using a Taranis Plus radio with OrangeRx module and trying a OrangeRx R410X which has both PWM and CPPM capability.
Since my Trfiecta is a tricopter, Rear motor is #1, Front RH motor is #2 and Front LH Motor is #3. However when I plug these motors in in sequence at pins 1 through 3 (counting from the RHS), the mapping of motors/ESC are incorrect using CleanFlight Motor test.
Also, regradless if I use PWM or CPPM, I am unable to power my RX from the FC after a successful bind. I measured the voltage coming out of the 5v and GND and I read only 0.7volts on my meter. Where Am I going wrong or have I damaged my FC board during soldering. I have checked I have no short circuits on the board. Please comment, thanks!
+Etops Flight I'd check that the outputs are plugged in the right way (see 21:07 in the video) and confirm that you have the right pins for the 5v too.. Best of luck..
+Painless360
Followed your video to the tee. You didn''t show how to connect the receiver cables but I think I go that figured out.
Just realised that my Afro 12A ESC's only have two cables on the plug, it seems only a ground and signal wire, the middle red wire is missing. Is this normal and how will affect my setup?
Etops
Nevermind, found another of your useful videos about Opto ESC's. Had to power the FC separately using a UBEC (robbed from a DLG) and now the Rx has power but all my motors/rudder servo mappings all all over the place/not responding!
Thanks for your videos!
thank you a ton! !
very good video like your work
Just received a full Naze32 board and followed your video instructions, which are very clear and easy to follow. However, after flashing, the board is displaying the blue light and a red light. Might you be able to help me understand what is going on and why I do not have just the blue light as you have in the video?? Thanks for the video and your help.
+Aaron Pitts
Hey Arron ..getting the red light too ..what did you do? What Radio are you using?
Hi, did you install additional software before connecting the NAZE32 to your USB ?
Any drivers ? pre install software other than ClaenFlight ?
NAZE32 is not recognized and CleanFlight has only COM1 which is not connected to the NAZE.
No, everything installed automatically. I'd delete the device you have there in device manager and then start again. Best of luck!
Different subject but i am just trying to pass on info to you, don't know if you have used the "Goodluckbuy" site, i found it by accident and spotted a little module (Fpv N1 OSD) that works with the "Naza M Lite" and is only £13.64 and it works great, since i connected it to my naza it does not drift an inch, there are 3 different OSD display modes you can use, there are plenty of users on youtube instructing how to set it up as you don't get instructions with it, well worth it for this price.
Hi Painless! I am very very new to quads and flight controllers. I found your series of videos and I am happy to see step by step explanations. However, I've run into a bit of a snag. I was able to get the accelerometer calibrated with no troubles. However, I could not get the magnetometer calibrated. When you move the cursor over an option, the little pointer arrow turns to a pointer finger. However, when I moved my cursor over the "Calibrate Magnetometer", the pointer cursor did not turn to a point finger. It's as if the "Calibrate Magnetometer" is not a selectable option. Would you have any ideas on what I should do?
***** it depends on the board version you have, if you have the basic version without the magnetometer then you will not be able to select this option.
I cover the differences in the baords towards the start of this video. Hope it helps.
Thanks for the reply! I just went back to your video and, true enough, you did state the the "Funfly" version of the Naze32 does not have a magnetometer. Perhaps I should pay closer attention to your video from now on, lol.
What is the "clay" that you are using to help hold the board while soldering??
David Layton Called Blu Tak here in the UK, it's the stuff you put posters up with. I always have a ball on the desk and it gets used for all sorts ;)
thanks for the awesome info video .....will it matter the orientation of the board ? ilike if the USB plug is to the right or left side ?
+ST Logan All covered in the series ;) ruclips.net/video/4LqySEZzoLY/видео.html
Painless360 cool thanks ...i am wondering why i click save and reboot ..it keeps going on with waiting for data
Not sure, I've not had that here..
Painless360 i cant click a diff. tab it just stuck in waiting for data..
+ST Logan I'd check you are using compatible firmware with the GUI (it updates all the time) and make sure that nothing else is plugged into UART1 when using USB... Best of luck..
Hi there , thanks for the videos in the frsky transmitter !!! I have brought a eachine racer with a cc3d board in. I fancy putting GPS on it for hold and RTH. Is it possible or should I look at getting a Naza 32 kit. Thankyou for your help 👍🏻
+Adam Ingram Keep watching the series for the answer. GPS RTH isn't reliable on any Cleanflight powered board at the moment..
NICE series for naze32
but you have to launch series for
EMAX skyline32 advanced v2
Sorry, we're not planning to. There are lots of new controllers that now include extra features like F4 processors, vector OSDs and integrated PDB, OSD and F3 based FC that they are what we will be covering next.. We've looked at lots of F3 based boards in the channel and they are all very similar.. Happy flying!
hi, a hard question, what u prefer naze32 or openpilot or pixhawk ?
witch is more stable fly or witch is more agile ... and 1 silly q can we do a 360 roll like the one with preseted button ?
Thanks great vid., great explain
All are good at most things but some are better in some areas than others. ruclips.net/video/k4tQAmg2ssA/видео.html
+Painless360 i order the same frame like u have here but with cc3d and flysky i6 remote and receiver and i want to put some stuff like gps, gimbal,fpv and i want to know witch is best, but i want to make another one with 250 frame like thoes that are racing one, but in the future.
BTW i`m noob i dont get my hand on a remote and a drone before :)) hope to get it right
i will watch vid. now ty.
I have videos on learning to fly and always recommend that if you are new then by a little Hubsan X4 to learn to fly with. Less expensive andante dangerous to learn on.. The CC3D series on the channel is designed for new pilots and builders and goes through every step. Best of luck.
+Painless360 Thanks i will wait to all my parts arrive, till then i will watch your vid. with how to fly.
I allready make order u can watch on my google+ what parts i order, but they are order before to see your video, now i have cc3d but monday will buy a naze32 is nice with all feature.
Thanks
Hey there, wondering if I need to install Cleanflight for my new Naze 32 or if I can use LibrePilot like I do with my cc3d. Great videos, super helpful. Keep up the awesome job
+Ernest Ginter if it's a Naze32 then you'll need Cleanflight or Betaflight. Best of luck!
Cheers for the reply buddy. Is there any board that has a more reliable gps that could be fitted +Painless360??
+Adam Ingram This may help - ruclips.net/video/fEatKjiJUwM/видео.html