That sucks. Getting one's child taken away and turned into a total brat is heart breaking. That Grandma is a terrible person for creating not one but two monsters.
Like my step kids. Their mother thinks she's hurting us but she is damaging the children. We have a 10 year old that, last year at 9 couldn't read. I bought two copies of a book to read with her to help her and the mother flipped out and said she didn't have to listen to me, that she doesn't need to learn how to read. She isn't hurting me, but her daughter is an illiterate 10 year old
@@janedavenport5989how about getting the police or child protective services involved? Yes, they might be taken away, but you'd be doing them a favor, because this way it's at least guaranteed they will be prepared to be able to live independently. As insane as that sounds, I think that's a bit more important then a happy childhood, because if they loose their "anchor" to finance them, they won't be able tu survive on their own. My suggestion, get CPS involved. Worst case, they might not have a happy childhood, but at least will gain the ability to build themselves a happy future. That's at least what i would've done. If it forces them to get an education, this might be best for them.
Story # 1. I'm convinced that monsters aren't born, they were made that way. No good ever comes from spoiling a child to such a degree that they are led to believe that the whole world revolves around them. Yikes, unless this is fixed he's going to eventually spend his life in prison.
I find it really interesting that almost nobody in this thread has put any accountability on the mother. I've taken in tons of kids that aren't mine and came from horrible open CPS cases who have been through way more trauma probably than this child, and behind every bit of anger and frustration is PAIN. And she has everything to do with that. She basically if we go by her words that somebody else abducted her child and then she wants to blame the child for what happened in HER absence. I didn't hear anything about counseling, I didn't hear anything about a plan, I didn't hear anything about rebuilding the foundation that needed to be rebuilt. I agree with your comment and I would say in addition to it, the only thing that stands between the monsters and our children is US. I think a huge amount of this relies squarely on the mother's shoulders and the fact that she would then publicly try to shame her son for the situation that she was so intrinsically involved in creating. I find absolutely insane, and a disgrace to her as a mother.
Story 2: that security should have been fired on the spot. He dragged a customer out the store and called the police without hearing both sides of the story. And the fact he was in the wrong opened the store to a lawsuit.
The 1st 1That you told us I feel really bad for that boy the oldest 1 he could have been a really good child if it wasn't for me That lady I hope he gets better And soon realized To be a better boy in apologizing2 is mom
First story: what if I just THINK what the oldest son did I don't think I would be alive my limbs would be separated and sent to Brazil or some place I don't even know what would happen if I ACTUALLY did
Can’t blame the youngest because oldest brother being asshole & entitlements nothing evolve around him there’s other people besides him that’s good the youngest son not being raised asshole
Back when I was a teenager, If I ever spoke to mother or other family relatives in that way and then went on a destructive rant, my mother would have pummeled me to the ground with a wooden spoon in hand or a belt. I grew up in Spain and let me tell you guys something, pissing off a Spanish mother is a huge No No!!. My father, on the other hand. It would be too painful for me to describe if he saw me behave in that way.
Every karen, entitled mother in law or anyone that acts like them: YOU ARE GOING TO HELL FOR PUTTING A HAND ON ME!!! Those people after they die WHY AM I IN HELL!? Also the op on the second story, you are a special kind of person for encountering 2 karens in 1 day. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAL A 2 FOR 1 DISCOUNT
Interesting thing is with story 1 The ex mother-in-law has just proven that she is the reason that the writers ex-husband was such an asshole. Because it’s obvious when given a second chance with her grandson, she basically turn the kid into a carbon copy.
the secend story is were i come in to play not in the story just wat i would do if i was one of the children. Me: Officer she did not steal it from her cart shes all alone no kids so why would she buy a doll house if shes a grown adult and the security cams are the one thing that can tell the truth here.
@@jemeson5332 I agree. It’s a form of neglecting his future emotional and mental state. It’s making them believe that they can have whatever they want just by the snap of their fingers. It’s sad to think that if the OP had kept her son’s custody, that they older son would’ve turned into a decent human being like her 10 year old. But this ex monster in law RUINED this boy. I feel sorry for the OP
Mmm, true. No doubt spoiled from a toddler. story 2, We have a lot of demon witches, and story 3: dude why are you making so hard for people to work peacefully?? They are doing their jobs and know what to do, so adjust the attitude and make it work for them and you or else.
If you ask me the police, courts, and judges are just as guilty. He was essentially kidnapped and they did nothing until it was too late. The police should have arrested her and returned her child, I could care less if the state has grandparents rights what she did was still kidnapping.
There's clearly more to the story as taking a kidnapped child over state lines is a federal crime where a state judge has no jurisdiction. I absolutely would have appealed the judge's decision to give joint custody to this psychotic old bitch. After the last incident, I would have requested that the judge order a Mental Health Exam (as well as sending him to a Group Home) to see if there's anything more which could be done, as well as illustrating just how profoundly that the pathologically narcissistic mother-in-law has damaged him.
I'm the eldest son in story 1 and the ex mother in law is my mother. my parents recently split and my dad is thinking of filiong for divorce. I hope he gets full custody as he seems to be the only person who can fix me. I very sadistic and I love to watch the world burn. please don't hate me for that as I feel very insecure about who I am. I almost want to cut all contact with scociety all together because I feel as though I don't belong. how can I fix that
@@Irish_Chirpo therapy does wonders. If you talk to someone about it and listen to them then you can better yourself for the future to become more ready.
Story One: Reason Why All Of this Happen is Because The Ex - Mother In Law Is An Entitled Woman. Who Passed That Entitlement Down To The Older Son. Who Was Very Much Displaying It. By. Every Is Given To Me At The Drop Of A Coin, You Do What I Say When I Say It. Or He Throws A Fit That He Can’t Have It His Way, and He Takes it. A Lil Too Far
I just hope his future isn't ruined by going to jail. Clearly he is not in the right state, nobody is normally that aggressive. It happens due to neglect and he had to go through a divorce of his parents so that f'ed him up. I have seen many of my friends becoming angry and irritable after divorce. Especially meeting your mom's new kid who had a loving father and a mom from the start made him even more angry I believe. The grandmother did this to him and the father neglected him
The ex MIL in story #1 has ruined this kids life and I'm not sure if there's any coming back from years of her raising him to be a grade a POS. I commend the mother for doing what's right here. Sadly I see this kid being in and out of jail as an adult. Which I keep calling him a child but he's nearing 18 I believe.
Maybe the mother should take a little more accountability and responsibility and build the foundation with her son that she should have instead of pawning him off on the system now and completely giving up on him. I've taken in tons of kids that were incredibly troubled and the one thing I found behind every single one of that bit of anger was hurt and pain. The few words that we heard this kid actually say through the story had everything to do with WHY he was acting that way and maybe as a mother she should have figured that out FIRST. You have to have boundaries, but I see far too many parents do this kind of crap and then they wonder why their kids are a mess. Take responsibility, take accountability and look in the mirror FIRST as the parent. That's my advice and then you'll probably see why your kids acting like a giant f****** lunatic. Every once while there are just bad kids, but I don't think anybody who heard the story thinks that this kid started out that way. She allowed her absence to be that long, a large part of that is on HER. Nobody told her to go out and start a new family and ignore the other kid and let the grandmother take the other kid. She did that. It's technically kidnapping and as a parent you have more rights than the grandparents even in states that have grandparent rights. She let this woman take her kid is what it amounted to for the most part and then she took the easy way out because she was busy living her life and now this kid doesn't fit so easily into her life so it's a problem. Reap what you sew lady, had you put some effort into this kid along the way maybe he wouldn't be like this now and maybe that's exactly what she should be doing at this point. Put some effort into the kid that she had basically let somebody else take and then blamed him for what happened during his abduction is what it really amounts to. Would you do that to any other child that had actually technically been abducted? NO, you would get them counseling, you would get them therapy, you would go through a whole process of reunification with the primary parent, it would take time, it would take effort because the child is damaged. There's pain that has to be addressed. You can't move forward unless you do those things and to think that you can is ignorance and she'll never end up having a relationship with this kid. She will have failed him miserably as his mother and he will grow up exactly the same way he is now, but with more resentment and further trauma and further pain due to this experience that he will likely then inflict on everybody else that comes in his path because hurt people hurt people. This has everything to do with HER, and her lack of accountability I find absolutely disturbing.
@@ttaylor8239 The thing is, MIL and the mother have shared custody, and since the kid is living in a different state and has school, she can only see him 2 days a week. The mother *tried* to take full custody but it didn't work. And while yes, the mother didn't say anything about trying to help the child, that doesn't mean that she didn't try at all. so really, the MIL is the jerk, but if you stretch it, the mother is also kind of bad. But I am not that old soo...
yeah, that's why spoiling children does them a disservice. Unless you're super rich and can isolate your little monsters from birth to death, their actions will have consequences.
I had 3 kids, fortunately mine were pretty well behaved. Because I was beat as kid, I really didn't want to do that to my kids, but I knew that a physical threat had to be there. That's why I subscribed to the 3 Swat Rule! Three seats with the hand, no more. During their entire childhood I only had to use it twice on each of my kids. The oldest girl got an extra one from mother. I was lucky. I think 6 swats for each child was pretty good. I used to get twice that with a belt. That's why I dislike corporal punishment, but the threat has to be there. Oldest girl is a teacher, middle girl is a pharmacist, son makes high quality kitchen cabinets. Good kids.
For the firs story: i honestly feel bad for the oldest son. He was molded into a bad person only because of the grandmother. I hope to god he sees the error of his ways, and can apologize to his family and be apart of it one day.
The second story is a good example of why some kids are scared of police and think they're all bad. Imagine being 4 years old and watching your dad almost get arrested for no reason.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 bro, that doesn’t automatically mean they don’t grammatically understand, they could be asking what you are talking about or something. Also 6 yro aren’t dumb, only like a 4 or less lol.
FINALLY! An adult who UNDERSTANDS that all chargers are "Built different" Also, if you're locked out of your residence, I believe that you're allowed to call the authorities to have them open the door. Edit: It doesn't matter if you're from another state, the police in another state can arrest you if you threaten to disturb the peace or a threat to those nearby. Edit 2: Holy shite 100 likes!
Send him to boot camp he can’t get what he want & can’t get his way ex mother in law can’t do or say anything be because OP is the parents she have more right than grandparents
@@grandkalbi5331 I hear the story grandparents custody right shouldn't have it unless theres neglect from the parents which never happen mostly the son will face the world will kick his ass his grandmother can't do anything
Story 1: That ex-MIL is the worst here for making the older son into a demon like that. I'd battle against her in court all day long, and even more stupid was she took him away to another state just to try and get grandparents rights... which almost seems like a bad form of kidnapping to me. I feel bad for the OP and her family. I'm really surprised the older son didnt get a whooping from the dad or juvie hall too. Story 2: OP is totally not a jerk. Stuff like this is why i dont like going out in public.... too many people like those Karen's out there. I'll also sling mud at the first security guard too, they qualify as a jerk there for how they originally handled it. Story 3: The Frank guy deserved what he got.... all of it!
She flat out just gave up trying to take care of him WELP I guess she tried but she neglected him seriously bro never had a father figure in his life only had a mother figure
@@codmaproguyhaving to be a single mother is the fault of the father and his family. As shown by the mil parenting leading to the child's ruin. Mil was to blame for ALL of it just by raising her son to be a violent deadbeat.
Story 1: No offence, but why would you even want your oldest son around? You fought the courts for years to gain custody of a nightmare teenager who hates you and was being taken care of by someone else anyway? Its not like he'd be homeless without you. Let the old bag deal with the mess she made
it's a sort of "do right by him" thing. I don't think she realized JUST how fucked up he was as she did it, just knew the grandmother was fucking him up based on her ex. People like that -- her ex, the son, and probably the mom -- actually live horrible lives because of how they treat other people --that, and/or deeply abuse the few who sick around-- and I think the mother was trying to save her son from that... or from becoming an abuser herself. I don't think she realized it was too late.
I mean, better late than never right? It is strange tho that the op still wanted him. She probably didn’t realize that he was already so far gone when she got custody.
Maybe it was a bit of guilt that she couldn’t do more earlier and still wants the best for him. Also it isn’t his fault how he turned out. It’s the Ex-Mother in law.
@@Leosloth2011 uhhh re-listen to that story. She took a young CHILD to a different state where she knew she could win, obviously without PARENTAL consent, THATS KIDNAPPING BRO
To be honest the mom should have shown the judge videos of how her son turned out by being raised by her ex's mom. There would have been no shared custody and the judge would have told her that she had no business ever raising a child because she obviously had no idea how to do it. Though to be honest, at times I was just like him as a teenager. If someone wouldn't let me do what I want (usually just wanting to walk away leave whatever situation made me upset) or sometimes not get me something I wanted, I would yell and scream, then fight back when someone tried to restrain me. At the time we didn't know I had aspergers disorder. I'm 32 now and definitely got over that. The difference is that I was raised by a single mom who did everything she could to make sure that I turned out to be a successful adult. I think I turned out pretty well. Even started my own small business this year. Haven't made much money yet and definitely spent way more than I've earned so far, but I believe I will get there eventually.
Story 2: Sounds like both the OP and that store are Karen magnets, suggesting that perhaps, instead of avoiding that store, she should go there more often and, with any lick, more Karens will be taken off the streets
I just, no, I can't bring myself to believe this story Two Karens in the same day? Had to call the police two times? They both were high? The high part is where I stopped believing
Shoot for story number 1 if I were to do that stuff the brat did in the story...that be the day I would be seeing which ever super natural being is in charge of the afterlife. I felt like that kid never once has gotten his ass whooped
I kinda feel bad for #1 kid. He didn’t deserve that, if you think about it, he couldn’t control it and was manipulated into being such a brat. Honestly, I hope he’s doing well. Nobody deserves to be manipulated into being a spoiled brat.
It's ironic the Ex-MIL called out OP for ruining her oldest son's life... and if the kid acts like this when someone says no I hate to imagine what he'd be like if a girl refuses his proposal for a date, a job interview rejection or stuff like that... If they continue down this path then he's in for a bumpy ride.
In story one: Oh no, no no no. He assaults you in YOUR own house? Beat his ass. Don't just "call the cops", you teach him yourself that he does not get to act like that.
Omg, I have a cousin exactly like that and on top of that he's literally 6'4 and 250lbs at the age of 15 in a country where average adult male is 5'7. Thankfully he's such a spoiled brat, he doesn't have the discipline to get fit or learn to fight so he doesn't get physically violent as often probably because my uncles, who grew up in street fights, would destroy his ass if they ever heard of something like that. He always make demands and threaten to run away if his mother doesn't agree, he demands too much money from his broke father and blames him of being a bad parent when his father literally screenshots his empty bank account and sends it to him. He wants to go on a one week holiday than says he's bored the 2nd day and says he'll run away if they don't take him back home. He's such a sad case and I can't picture a future for him.
On the story of the two Karen's, no you had nothing to do with them getting arrested they got their own selves arrested by acting stupid and doing drugs. I hope your nephew likes the game.
For the first one, if I was in that situation, I would have just yelled: "I GAVE BIRTH TO YOU, IF IT WASN'T FOR ME, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU GREW UP WITH, SO STOP THIS NONSENSE, AND TREAT ME WITH RESPECT."
Story 1. Why is she fighting for a kid that doesn’t even love her or respect her. She kinda insane for still caring about him. Like he even pushed her and kicked her out of the house.
It's her kid. He was kidnapped. If course she still loves him. Ypu do t grow a whole ass human being in your body without forming a very deep connection
Story 1:"my son is a nightmare to stay around" he's nickname should be nightmare really i don't wanna be mean but hiting a car is a nother level of insane
Story 1 so grandma took the oldest son to another state before she had custody to file for custody. Where I'm from we have a word for that it's called kidnapping that judge should have been disbarred and arrested for allowing that shit to happen.
Story 1: OPs kinda the AH kudos on trying to save her son but if she's not willing to raise him at home herself (for good reason) just let him go live happily with gramma By doing this she is just further ruining his life
@@johnclaybaugh9536 Dude you misunderstood what I was referring to Your right it wasn't her choice to lose her son to granny But after years when she gets her son & he gets arrested HER CHOICE instead of taking him back home to parent or sending him to be with granny she gets the judge to send him to a group home..... Life tip don't be snarky for no reason best case you come off as clever AH or worst case you come off as an incompetent AH
@@kaidrazarc8000 lol. She actually did the best thing there was to do. He was only there for the weekend and wouldn't have listened to mom anyway. But some idiots do think being arrested is a parent's fault and is just horrible. Thankfully some of us know the truth. Heck, my kid hit me and was arrested. That never happened again.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 ohh I agree the entitled son deserved to be arrested for what he did thinking he can make the rules honestly deserved worst But the last bit not letting granny have her entitled brat back instead putting him in a group home just seems spiteful as they're both happy together but OP doesn't want them together while also doesn't want to parent her entitled brat who just makes her life hell But good on ya being a good parent teaching your kid there are consequences & an important lesson that is invaluable to the rest of their life
You can also use it as ammo against the oldest making it look like she loved the younger one more. Sounds honestly like the mother gave up when she got shared custody rather than full custody.
Good lord two high Karens trying to steal from OP in story #2 in the same store. I would say buy a lottery ticket but I feel a third high Karen will try to take that too.
My problem is how did a judge give the grandmother custody when he was basically kidnapped? Like what the hell? She literally took him to another state to get custody. I don't remember the OP giving her any permission to do that. And even if the father did, that's something both parents have to agree on because they are divorced and he was abusive. What kind of court system does this and *allows* it? She should be reimbursed for every court fee she had to pay to fight for custody over her son that was basically kidnapped by his grandmother, and then sue the judge for allowing her to have custody and causing this to happen, because this is the judge's fault for ruling in her favor.
Some states have grandparents rights which basically is a dumb law saying granny and pop pop are legally allowed to have visitation with their grandkids and the parents can't refuse it. Bit... I mean Karen, sorry dunno where that typo came from, took mom to court and exploited it to basically get custody. Probably through lies and half truths and denying things the mother rightfully claimed but couldn't prove
Story 1. Hate to say it, your ex mil ruined your oldest. You should have left him with his grandmother. The doll house story, that security officer should be disciplined for his actions
8:48 the MIL has ruined the kid’s life and she can’t blame the OP. Also what kind of court allowed her to have shared custody with the kid, she is just the grandma not a parent she had no right and when that boy learns the hard way that it was his grandma that ruined his life not his mum, stepdad, step grandma or half brother, it will be too late because they won’t trust him or feel safe around him. And he can only blame himself and his grandma for it
Story 1 she should flat out tell her son that he is a scumbag due to his grandmother and father and you never want to see him again. Make him watch as you sign away any rights to him and watch his reaction when you submit it. Then laminate him a copy of the finalized paperwork for Christmas
Op from the first story is just as guilty. She neglected him and never offered him therapy after everything that had happened. She wanted custody to prove a point to the granny. Ofc granny is still ta. And I’m not justifying the kid’s actions, he’s a menace.
*Story 1:* OMG! There's spoilt, and then there's *totally* spoilt rotten! This is insane! I was spoilt as a boy and as a teenager, but nothing like this. Assuming this is a true story, I hope the spoilt brat gets what he deserves, some much needed discipline.
Story 1 the first child is a literal disaster I think op should just give up custody of the first child since the ex mother in law RUINED him and 2 the first child has no place in ops house.
what i would have said in the court for the entitled brat is i want to disown him and have him banned from my property and get a restraining order for the son and the ex. that would be the SMART thing to do
Story 2 im from the Philippines too and also you do not deserve to be treated like that you are absolutely not the jerk because that level of entitlement is just bizarre for a human being i feel so sorry for you and why would they do that to you anyways hope you have a wonderful day 😁😁🇵🇭🇵🇭
Sure I'm spoiled. BUT ATLEAST I HAVE LIMITS!. Sure I'd take any offers from my parent's friends/family. BUT I DO NOT JUST OUTRIGHT DEMAND THINGS. Sure i do go shopping with my mother and buy anything i can have or want. BUT ATLEAST I HAVE AN SPENDING LIMIT (1.5 dollars. I'm Indonesian) Meanwhile this older kid character just goes "Give me chips or no house."
As much as I hate to say it, but the mother in law of the 1st story does have a point about the original poster not being a good mother. She fought so long and hard to get custody for her son, only to send him AWAY to a group home after getting him back. If the mom can't take care of the one that she PARTIALLY raised and teach him that this stuff is wrong, then I'm afraid she isn't as good as she says she is.
@@Leosloth2011 it's not that you should be asking. You should be asking, "What was the point in fighting for all this custody if I'm forced to get rid of my son if there's nothing I can do to salvage my relationship with him?"
That sucks. Getting one's child taken away and turned into a total brat is heart breaking. That Grandma is a terrible person for creating not one but two monsters.
But now maybe the kid is gonna go to a better place, maybe
That kid is worse than my brother! Who would let an ex-mother in law do this? How about the ex mother in law have that child to see how she likes it?!
Like my step kids. Their mother thinks she's hurting us but she is damaging the children. We have a 10 year old that, last year at 9 couldn't read. I bought two copies of a book to read with her to help her and the mother flipped out and said she didn't have to listen to me, that she doesn't need to learn how to read. She isn't hurting me, but her daughter is an illiterate 10 year old
If I did anything like this I would get slapped back to the roman empire lol
@@janedavenport5989how about getting the police or child protective services involved? Yes, they might be taken away, but you'd be doing them a favor, because this way it's at least guaranteed they will be prepared to be able to live independently. As insane as that sounds, I think that's a bit more important then a happy childhood, because if they loose their "anchor" to finance them, they won't be able tu survive on their own.
My suggestion, get CPS involved. Worst case, they might not have a happy childhood, but at least will gain the ability to build themselves a happy future.
That's at least what i would've done. If it forces them to get an education, this might be best for them.
Story # 1. I'm convinced that monsters aren't born, they were made that way. No good ever comes from spoiling a child to such a degree that they are led to believe that the whole world revolves around them. Yikes, unless this is fixed he's going to eventually spend his life in prison.
I find it really interesting that almost nobody in this thread has put any accountability on the mother. I've taken in tons of kids that aren't mine and came from horrible open CPS cases who have been through way more trauma probably than this child, and behind every bit of anger and frustration is PAIN. And she has everything to do with that. She basically if we go by her words that somebody else abducted her child and then she wants to blame the child for what happened in HER absence. I didn't hear anything about counseling, I didn't hear anything about a plan, I didn't hear anything about rebuilding the foundation that needed to be rebuilt. I agree with your comment and I would say in addition to it, the only thing that stands between the monsters and our children is US. I think a huge amount of this relies squarely on the mother's shoulders and the fact that she would then publicly try to shame her son for the situation that she was so intrinsically involved in creating. I find absolutely insane, and a disgrace to her as a mother.
@@ttaylor8239 You can't put it all on the mother, she didn't dream him all on her own. It takes two equal parents to rear a child.
@@ttaylor8239 Your avatar checks your braindead logic
@@pjgumby wtf do you even mean it’s all to blame on the Ex mother in law she’s the issue here she’s the only bad one and the kid of course
@@ttaylor8239 your coo coo it’s all the Ex mother in law she made him like this in the first place you pos
Story 2: that security should have been fired on the spot. He dragged a customer out the store and called the police without hearing both sides of the story. And the fact he was in the wrong opened the store to a lawsuit.
The 1st 1That you told us I feel really bad for that boy the oldest 1 he could have been a really good child if it wasn't for me That lady I hope he gets better And soon realized To be a better boy in apologizing2 is mom
First story: what if I just THINK what the oldest son did I don't think I would be alive my limbs would be separated and sent to Brazil or some place I don't even know what would happen if I ACTUALLY did
The youngest son in the first story just doesnt give a crap about his entitled older brother
Can’t blame the youngest because oldest brother being asshole & entitlements nothing evolve around him there’s other people besides him that’s good the youngest son not being raised asshole
2nd: Folks, we found the Karen Whisperer! 😂😂😂
Back when I was a teenager, If I ever spoke to mother or other family relatives in that way and then went on a destructive rant, my mother would have pummeled me to the ground with a wooden spoon in hand or a belt. I grew up in Spain and let me tell you guys something, pissing off a Spanish mother is a huge No No!!.
My father, on the other hand. It would be too painful for me to describe if he saw me behave in that way.
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Story 2: sounds about right for San Francisco.
Spoiled son That’s a new one
the man is the best uncle ever 😂
subtitles be like: illegal toys
Happy Thursday Everyone from Tacoma Washington ! ( Stay Safe)
Yeah, that double karen story, dude is just going to walmart.
Every karen, entitled mother in law or anyone that acts like them: YOU ARE GOING TO HELL FOR PUTTING A HAND ON ME!!!
Those people after they die WHY AM I IN HELL!?
Also the op on the second story, you are a special kind of person for encountering 2 karens in 1 day. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAL A 2 FOR 1 DISCOUNT
I had no idea “grandparents’ rights” was a thing…..like how?
You should have pressed charges for kidnapping
On The Last Story, about the evil Frank, Karma bit him in the butt. People like that is what get company sued.
Story 2: 2 Karens served karma by the same person in 1 day
What a miracle drug addict San Francisco 😂The young man should perhaps think about wearing a body cam all the time I mean his luck 😂😁😂
Story 1: The origin of entitlement
Interesting thing is with story 1
The ex mother-in-law has just proven that she is the reason that the writers ex-husband was such an asshole.
Because it’s obvious when given a second chance with her grandson, she basically turn the kid into a carbon copy.
Yes
I feel like the law grandparents rights is stupid tbh
This sounds just like my brother 1st
here from shorts lololol
God of war games me now knowing why its all gone on stores and amzone
the secend story is were i come in to play not in the story just wat i would do if i was one of the children. Me: Officer she did not steal it from her cart shes all alone no kids so why would she buy a doll house if shes a grown adult and the security cams are the one thing that can tell the truth here.
13:15 only in walmart
If the OP is female, why not do this with a female bot voice? It can't be that freaking difficult!
Power trip is a geometry dash level in subzero 15:58
Story One: This is why I believe that spoiling is just as dangerous as neglect.
Extremes are bad. Balanced Is the way
In a way, it is a form of neglect.
@@jemeson5332 I agree. It’s a form of neglecting his future emotional and mental state. It’s making them believe that they can have whatever they want just by the snap of their fingers. It’s sad to think that if the OP had kept her son’s custody, that they older son would’ve turned into a decent human being like her 10 year old. But this ex monster in law RUINED this boy. I feel sorry for the OP
And why 'Grandparents Rights' are fucked up.
Grandparents should've no right when it comes to their grandchildren.
Grandparents rights work when the child is being neglected or abused by the parent/parents, but for actual functioning parents it’s ridiculous
I feel sorry for the OP in story one. She loved her eldest and an evil old woman likely ruined him beyond repair
Mmm, true. No doubt spoiled from a toddler. story 2, We have a lot of demon witches, and story 3: dude why are you making so hard for people to work peacefully?? They are doing their jobs and know what to do, so adjust the attitude and make it work for them and you or else.
If you ask me the police, courts, and judges are just as guilty. He was essentially kidnapped and they did nothing until it was too late.
The police should have arrested her and returned her child, I could care less if the state has grandparents rights what she did was still kidnapping.
There's clearly more to the story as taking a kidnapped child over state lines is a federal crime where a state judge has no jurisdiction. I absolutely would have appealed the judge's decision to give joint custody to this psychotic old bitch.
After the last incident, I would have requested that the judge order a Mental Health Exam (as well as sending him to a Group Home) to see if there's anything more which could be done, as well as illustrating just how profoundly that the pathologically narcissistic mother-in-law has damaged him.
I'm the eldest son in story 1 and the ex mother in law is my mother. my parents recently split and my dad is thinking of filiong for divorce. I hope he gets full custody as he seems to be the only person who can fix me. I very sadistic and I love to watch the world burn. please don't hate me for that as I feel very insecure about who I am. I almost want to cut all contact with scociety all together because I feel as though I don't belong. how can I fix that
@@Irish_Chirpo therapy does wonders. If you talk to someone about it and listen to them then you can better yourself for the future to become more ready.
Story one: hopefully the oldest son can get some help and in the future realize how his grandmother is insane
fingers crossed
Story One: Reason Why All Of this Happen is Because The Ex - Mother In Law Is An Entitled Woman.
Who Passed That Entitlement Down To The Older Son. Who Was Very Much Displaying It. By.
Every Is Given To Me At The Drop Of A Coin, You Do What I Say When I Say It.
Or He Throws A Fit That He Can’t Have It His Way, and He Takes it. A Lil Too Far
I just hope his future isn't ruined by going to jail. Clearly he is not in the right state, nobody is normally that aggressive. It happens due to neglect and he had to go through a divorce of his parents so that f'ed him up. I have seen many of my friends becoming angry and irritable after divorce. Especially meeting your mom's new kid who had a loving father and a mom from the start made him even more angry I believe. The grandmother did this to him and the father neglected him
200th like yayyy!
The ex MIL in story #1 has ruined this kids life and I'm not sure if there's any coming back from years of her raising him to be a grade a POS. I commend the mother for doing what's right here. Sadly I see this kid being in and out of jail as an adult. Which I keep calling him a child but he's nearing 18 I believe.
The fuckwit is a child, just in an adult body
@@brendanboomhour7606 sure is!
Put him in the military school and dont let him out until he is an obedient dog
Maybe the mother should take a little more accountability and responsibility and build the foundation with her son that she should have instead of pawning him off on the system now and completely giving up on him. I've taken in tons of kids that were incredibly troubled and the one thing I found behind every single one of that bit of anger was hurt and pain. The few words that we heard this kid actually say through the story had everything to do with WHY he was acting that way and maybe as a mother she should have figured that out FIRST. You have to have boundaries, but I see far too many parents do this kind of crap and then they wonder why their kids are a mess. Take responsibility, take accountability and look in the mirror FIRST as the parent. That's my advice and then you'll probably see why your kids acting like a giant f****** lunatic. Every once while there are just bad kids, but I don't think anybody who heard the story thinks that this kid started out that way. She allowed her absence to be that long, a large part of that is on HER. Nobody told her to go out and start a new family and ignore the other kid and let the grandmother take the other kid. She did that. It's technically kidnapping and as a parent you have more rights than the grandparents even in states that have grandparent rights. She let this woman take her kid is what it amounted to for the most part and then she took the easy way out because she was busy living her life and now this kid doesn't fit so easily into her life so it's a problem. Reap what you sew lady, had you put some effort into this kid along the way maybe he wouldn't be like this now and maybe that's exactly what she should be doing at this point. Put some effort into the kid that she had basically let somebody else take and then blamed him for what happened during his abduction is what it really amounts to. Would you do that to any other child that had actually technically been abducted? NO, you would get them counseling, you would get them therapy, you would go through a whole process of reunification with the primary parent, it would take time, it would take effort because the child is damaged. There's pain that has to be addressed. You can't move forward unless you do those things and to think that you can is ignorance and she'll never end up having a relationship with this kid. She will have failed him miserably as his mother and he will grow up exactly the same way he is now, but with more resentment and further trauma and further pain due to this experience that he will likely then inflict on everybody else that comes in his path because hurt people hurt people. This has everything to do with HER, and her lack of accountability I find absolutely disturbing.
@@ttaylor8239 The thing is, MIL and the mother have shared custody, and since the kid is living in a different state and has school, she can only see him 2 days a week. The mother *tried* to take full custody but it didn't work. And while yes, the mother didn't say anything about trying to help the child, that doesn't mean that she didn't try at all. so really, the MIL is the jerk, but if you stretch it, the mother is also kind of bad. But I am not that old soo...
That son is going to try that with the wrong person and end up in jail, a hospital, or a morgue.
Agree...at minimum I expect he'll be in and out of jail as an adult.
@@bobbiec2829 military school is perfect for him just saying
yeah, that's why spoiling children does them a disservice. Unless you're super rich and can isolate your little monsters from birth to death, their actions will have consequences.
I had 3 kids, fortunately mine were pretty well behaved. Because I was beat as kid, I really didn't want to do that to my kids, but I knew that a physical threat had to be there. That's why I subscribed to the 3 Swat Rule! Three seats with the hand, no more. During their entire childhood I only had to use it twice on each of my kids. The oldest girl got an extra one from mother. I was lucky. I think 6 swats for each child was pretty good. I used to get twice that with a belt. That's why I dislike corporal punishment, but the threat has to be there. Oldest girl is a teacher, middle girl is a pharmacist, son makes high quality kitchen cabinets. Good kids.
Hopefully before he do what that kid in Milwaukee did.
For the firs story: i honestly feel bad for the oldest son. He was molded into a bad person only because of the grandmother. I hope to god he sees the error of his ways, and can apologize to his family and be apart of it one day.
The second story is a good example of why some kids are scared of police and think they're all bad. Imagine being 4 years old and watching your dad almost get arrested for no reason.
Oh god-
Except that he did not get arrested.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 what did you say
@@kieraleah6768 can you not read? The simplest typo shouldn't cause issues. Unless your 6.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 bro, that doesn’t automatically mean they don’t grammatically understand, they could be asking what you are talking about or something. Also 6 yro aren’t dumb, only like a 4 or less lol.
FINALLY! An adult who UNDERSTANDS that all chargers are "Built different"
Also, if you're locked out of your residence, I believe that you're allowed to call the authorities to have them open the door.
Edit: It doesn't matter if you're from another state, the police in another state can arrest you if you threaten to disturb the peace or a threat to those nearby.
Edit 2: Holy shite 100 likes!
I'd like but u hav 100 on the .
@@huntersawyer5633 holy shit I didn't even know.
That kid in Story 1 will get his ass handed to him eventually and then learn what happened when that kind of mentality has repercussion
Send him to boot camp he can’t get what he want & can’t get his way ex mother in law can’t do or say anything be because OP is the parents she have more right than grandparents
FACTS MAN😂
@Sentient Toaster damn 😂
@@pandamoon8067it'll probably turn him into even more of a psychopath
@@grandkalbi5331 I hear the story grandparents custody right shouldn't have it unless theres neglect from the parents which never happen mostly the son will face the world will kick his ass his grandmother can't do anything
Story 1: That ex-MIL is the worst here for making the older son into a demon like that. I'd battle against her in court all day long, and even more stupid was she took him away to another state just to try and get grandparents rights... which almost seems like a bad form of kidnapping to me. I feel bad for the OP and her family. I'm really surprised the older son didnt get a whooping from the dad or juvie hall too.
Story 2: OP is totally not a jerk. Stuff like this is why i dont like going out in public.... too many people like those Karen's out there. I'll also sling mud at the first security guard too, they qualify as a jerk there for how they originally handled it.
Story 3: The Frank guy deserved what he got.... all of it!
"i need to speak to your manager"
Uhm story 1 : literally neglected her kid I mean ofc the ex MIL spoilt him cuz she probably felt bad for him
She flat out just gave up trying to take care of him WELP I guess she tried but she neglected him seriously bro never had a father figure in his life only had a mother figure
@@codmaproguyhaving to be a single mother is the fault of the father and his family. As shown by the mil parenting leading to the child's ruin. Mil was to blame for ALL of it just by raising her son to be a violent deadbeat.
@@lolarichter9415 ur supposed to blame both but the mom still raised a deadbeat now I understand why she's a single mother
Story #1 - That oldest son would have found himself in the ICU!
Story#2 - That story shows why I stay home or shop very early.
Or don't shop in San Francisco....
Story 1: No offence, but why would you even want your oldest son around? You fought the courts for years to gain custody of a nightmare teenager who hates you and was being taken care of by someone else anyway? Its not like he'd be homeless without you. Let the old bag deal with the mess she made
fr. I don’t get it either. she literally only spend 1/4 of the year or even less with him.
it's a sort of "do right by him" thing. I don't think she realized JUST how fucked up he was as she did it, just knew the grandmother was fucking him up based on her ex. People like that -- her ex, the son, and probably the mom -- actually live horrible lives because of how they treat other people --that, and/or deeply abuse the few who sick around-- and I think the mother was trying to save her son from that... or from becoming an abuser herself.
I don't think she realized it was too late.
I mean, better late than never right? It is strange tho that the op still wanted him. She probably didn’t realize that he was already so far gone when she got custody.
Becuase he's her son
Maybe it was a bit of guilt that she couldn’t do more earlier and still wants the best for him. Also it isn’t his fault how he turned out. It’s the Ex-Mother in law.
Entitled af like imagine going on a rampage as a high schooler because someone told you no
Wait a minute he is high schooler 🤨
@@fumo33 I was wondering about the age too
Story 1: How was she not charged with kidnapping?
Be cuase theyre storys are made up and tooken from reddit
bro she can’t be charged with kidnapping if she has custody
@@Leosloth2011 uhhh re-listen to that story. She took a young CHILD to a different state where she knew she could win, obviously without PARENTAL consent, THATS KIDNAPPING BRO
First story is the reason why you should brutally correct your spoiled kids.
If I ever did that when I was little I would've gotten the belt
@@1v1dogfights81 I was gonna say....This older son was really lucky that his mother and her 2nd husband were not people that would ever get physical.
Because beating kids is the way. There are other forms of discipline.
@@Garret007 bro i wasnt hit that much but even i know how to behave
@@1v1dogfights81same.
Story 2: am I the jerk for sending a Karen to jail?
No, you’re a saint
Fr 😂😂❤❤
To be honest the mom should have shown the judge videos of how her son turned out by being raised by her ex's mom. There would have been no shared custody and the judge would have told her that she had no business ever raising a child because she obviously had no idea how to do it. Though to be honest, at times I was just like him as a teenager. If someone wouldn't let me do what I want (usually just wanting to walk away leave whatever situation made me upset) or sometimes not get me something I wanted, I would yell and scream, then fight back when someone tried to restrain me. At the time we didn't know I had aspergers disorder. I'm 32 now and definitely got over that. The difference is that I was raised by a single mom who did everything she could to make sure that I turned out to be a successful adult. I think I turned out pretty well. Even started my own small business this year. Haven't made much money yet and definitely spent way more than I've earned so far, but I believe I will get there eventually.
Story 2: Sounds like both the OP and that store are Karen magnets, suggesting that perhaps, instead of avoiding that store, she should go there more often and, with any lick, more Karens will be taken off the streets
seems like an area problem more than a store problem
city people are crazy
I just, no, I can't bring myself to believe this story
Two Karens in the same day? Had to call the police two times? They both were high?
The high part is where I stopped believing
@@CaptainTom_EW all Karen’s are high from brain fumes
@@CaptainTom_EW Dude, he said he was in San Francisco. That's all you need to know. That city has become a cesspool.
Story 1) sounds like the making of an abuser or psychopath in the early stages.
In story 1 I used to be like that and in the end I learned my lesson the hard way and mentally I'm alot better now so I 100% agree with the mom.
Story 1: If That Was Me, The Brat Would've Been Dead By The Time The Cops Arrived.
“Maam, we got a police call, uhhh where is the suspect?”
“6 feet under.”
In that first story that son is clearly beyond help he is a sociopath that will end up in jail for life where he belongs.
Or in hospital since he would anger the one person one day
Story 1: The ex-mother is straight from hell. I can only imagine the pain that the mother had to face… stay strong 🙏
Oh god. Poor OP in the first story
God yeah. Her eldest son needs a bloody good slap!
Shoot for story number 1 if I were to do that stuff the brat did in the story...that be the day I would be seeing which ever super natural being is in charge of the afterlife. I felt like that kid never once has gotten his ass whooped
The double Karen story the OP must have been shopping at a Walmart XD always trouble at those stores
I kinda feel bad for #1 kid. He didn’t deserve that, if you think about it, he couldn’t control it and was manipulated into being such a brat. Honestly, I hope he’s doing well. Nobody deserves to be manipulated into being a spoiled brat.
fr
It's ironic the Ex-MIL called out OP for ruining her oldest son's life... and if the kid acts like this when someone says no I hate to imagine what he'd be like if a girl refuses his proposal for a date, a job interview rejection or stuff like that... If they continue down this path then he's in for a bumpy ride.
Yea
In story one: Oh no, no no no. He assaults you in YOUR own house? Beat his ass. Don't just "call the cops", you teach him yourself that he does not get to act like that.
Omg, I have a cousin exactly like that and on top of that he's literally 6'4 and 250lbs at the age of 15 in a country where average adult male is 5'7. Thankfully he's such a spoiled brat, he doesn't have the discipline to get fit or learn to fight so he doesn't get physically violent as often probably because my uncles, who grew up in street fights, would destroy his ass if they ever heard of something like that. He always make demands and threaten to run away if his mother doesn't agree, he demands too much money from his broke father and blames him of being a bad parent when his father literally screenshots his empty bank account and sends it to him. He wants to go on a one week holiday than says he's bored the 2nd day and says he'll run away if they don't take him back home. He's such a sad case and I can't picture a future for him.
Can you post this story with more details on the channel? I’d love to hear more. And so would many other viewers.
On the story of the two Karen's, no you had nothing to do with them getting arrested they got their own selves arrested by acting stupid and doing drugs. I hope your nephew likes the game.
"That it's actually in the illegal toys"
💀
Wow the son is terrible
Story one. The older son would have been whooped. I would have been sent to the shadow realm if I ever pulled that crazy shit.
For the first one, if I was in that situation, I would have just yelled: "I GAVE BIRTH TO YOU, IF IT WASN'T FOR ME, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU GREW UP WITH, SO STOP THIS NONSENSE, AND TREAT ME WITH RESPECT."
Story 1. Why is she fighting for a kid that doesn’t even love her or respect her. She kinda insane for still caring about him. Like he even pushed her and kicked her out of the house.
It's her kid. He was kidnapped. If course she still loves him. Ypu do t grow a whole ass human being in your body without forming a very deep connection
Wait...the mother in law KIDNAPPED the son, and gets away with it?!?
Story 1:"my son is a nightmare to stay around" he's nickname should be nightmare really i don't wanna be mean but hiting a car is a nother level of insane
7th clicker boiiii
Edit : 9th?
Story 1 so grandma took the oldest son to another state before she had custody to file for custody. Where I'm from we have a word for that it's called kidnapping that judge should have been disbarred and arrested for allowing that shit to happen.
Story 1: OPs kinda the AH kudos on trying to save her son but if she's not willing to raise him at home herself (for good reason) just let him go live happily with gramma
By doing this she is just further ruining his life
It wasn't her choice. Learn English and listen again.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 Dude you misunderstood what I was referring to
Your right it wasn't her choice to lose her son to granny
But after years when she gets her son & he gets arrested HER CHOICE instead of taking him back home to parent or sending him to be with granny she gets the judge to send him to a group home.....
Life tip don't be snarky for no reason best case you come off as clever AH or worst case you come off as an incompetent AH
@@kaidrazarc8000 lol. She actually did the best thing there was to do. He was only there for the weekend and wouldn't have listened to mom anyway.
But some idiots do think being arrested is a parent's fault and is just horrible. Thankfully some of us know the truth. Heck, my kid hit me and was arrested. That never happened again.
@@johnclaybaugh9536 ohh I agree the entitled son deserved to be arrested for what he did thinking he can make the rules honestly deserved worst
But the last bit not letting granny have her entitled brat back instead putting him in a group home just seems spiteful as they're both happy together but OP doesn't want them together while also doesn't want to parent her entitled brat who just makes her life hell
But good on ya being a good parent teaching your kid there are consequences & an important lesson that is invaluable to the rest of their life
The mom from story one is an absolute G
Honey that's not your son anymore just a stranger that's spoiled rotten by a entitled woman. Sad to say that you need to just cut all ties with him
You can use the 10 year old as an example that you are a good parent
You can also use it as ammo against the oldest making it look like she loved the younger one more. Sounds honestly like the mother gave up when she got shared custody rather than full custody.
Good lord two high Karens trying to steal from OP in story #2 in the same store. I would say buy a lottery ticket but I feel a third high Karen will try to take that too.
THIS MEN NEED A MILLION SUBS i love karens or brats getting punis or karma UR MY FAVE sub+
My problem is how did a judge give the grandmother custody when he was basically kidnapped? Like what the hell? She literally took him to another state to get custody. I don't remember the OP giving her any permission to do that. And even if the father did, that's something both parents have to agree on because they are divorced and he was abusive. What kind of court system does this and *allows* it? She should be reimbursed for every court fee she had to pay to fight for custody over her son that was basically kidnapped by his grandmother, and then sue the judge for allowing her to have custody and causing this to happen, because this is the judge's fault for ruling in her favor.
Some states have grandparents rights which basically is a dumb law saying granny and pop pop are legally allowed to have visitation with their grandkids and the parents can't refuse it. Bit... I mean Karen, sorry dunno where that typo came from, took mom to court and exploited it to basically get custody. Probably through lies and half truths and denying things the mother rightfully claimed but couldn't prove
Story 1. Hate to say it, your ex mil ruined your oldest. You should have left him with his grandmother.
The doll house story, that security officer should be disciplined for his actions
8:48 the MIL has ruined the kid’s life and she can’t blame the OP. Also what kind of court allowed her to have shared custody with the kid, she is just the grandma not a parent she had no right and when that boy learns the hard way that it was his grandma that ruined his life not his mum, stepdad, step grandma or half brother, it will be too late because they won’t trust him or feel safe around him. And he can only blame himself and his grandma for it
Story 1 she should flat out tell her son that he is a scumbag due to his grandmother and father and you never want to see him again. Make him watch as you sign away any rights to him and watch his reaction when you submit it. Then laminate him a copy of the finalized paperwork for Christmas
Op from the first story is just as guilty. She neglected him and never offered him therapy after everything that had happened. She wanted custody to prove a point to the granny.
Ofc granny is still ta. And I’m not justifying the kid’s actions, he’s a menace.
*Story 1:* OMG! There's spoilt, and then there's *totally* spoilt rotten! This is insane! I was spoilt as a boy and as a teenager, but nothing like this. Assuming this is a true story, I hope the spoilt brat gets what he deserves, some much needed discipline.
I fell like in the first story the mother in law is like: if you divorce my son.I am turn your own blood son against you
The first story made me think of all the times I got my butt whooped and why I got whooped, and I thank my parents for humbling me😂😂
Story 1 the first child is a literal disaster I think op should just give up custody of the first child since the ex mother in law RUINED him and 2 the first child has no place in ops house.
Grandparent rights sound completely insane. WTf
what i would have said in the court for the entitled brat is i want to disown him and have him banned from my property and get a restraining order for the son and the ex. that would be the SMART thing to do
Story one: it’s clear that the ex MiL is a idiot and failed as a parent and grandparent, she reaped what she sewn in being a karen
Story one: beat the brat. Treat him as he treats everyone else, lock him outside. If my son acts like that he knows the consequences
That first son would know what jail is. Some people have no respect.
Story 2 im from the Philippines too and also you do not deserve to be treated like that you are absolutely not the jerk because that level of entitlement is just bizarre for a human being i feel so sorry for you and why would they do that to you anyways hope you have a wonderful day 😁😁🇵🇭🇵🇭
Story 1: I believe the true and most jerk is the ex mother in law as if the older son stayed with the op then none of this would have happened
Sure I'm spoiled. BUT ATLEAST I HAVE LIMITS!. Sure I'd take any offers from my parent's friends/family. BUT I DO NOT JUST OUTRIGHT DEMAND THINGS. Sure i do go shopping with my mother and buy anything i can have or want. BUT ATLEAST I HAVE AN SPENDING LIMIT (1.5 dollars. I'm Indonesian) Meanwhile this older kid character just goes "Give me chips or no house."
The Best Chanel
Now that he's in a group home cut contact with him. If he's older and tries to apologize don't forgive him. Leave him out of the will and everything
9:24 (story 2)
"It's in the Isle labeled toys."
"It's Illegal toys."
*confused screaming*
As much as I hate to say it, but the mother in law of the 1st story does have a point about the original poster not being a good mother. She fought so long and hard to get custody for her son, only to send him AWAY to a group home after getting him back. If the mom can't take care of the one that she PARTIALLY raised and teach him that this stuff is wrong, then I'm afraid she isn't as good as she says she is.
What is she gonna do when he’s already broken beyond repair
@@Leosloth2011 it's not that you should be asking. You should be asking, "What was the point in fighting for all this custody if I'm forced to get rid of my son if there's nothing I can do to salvage my relationship with him?"
Hope the spoiled kid in the first story got sorted out and learns whats right and wrong, he needs to make it in this world.