Star Trek Beyond reviewed by Mark Kermode
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Mark Kermode reviews Star Trek Beyond. Deep in space during their five-year mission, the crew of the Enterprise are separated by a dangerous villain who threatens the Federation itself.
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Did anyone notice Pegg crowbarred a Spaced reference in there.
Later in the movie when Spock is explaining about how they can find the prisoners, Kirk rolls his eyes and says "Skip to the end..."
Which is something that was said on more than one occasion in Spaced.
There you go now, fact fans.
now there's a slice of fried gold!
I love the way Mark and Simon have the same bickering husband and wife energy of Spock and Bones.
I thought this was the most "Trek" film in the franchise since The Undiscovered Country. If anything I felt more joy from this film over being a Star Trek movie than any of the JJ Abrams flicks. Like, ever since the TNG films it feels like the movies have been ashamed of being Star Trek and tried to hide it, but this one LOVES being Star Trek and builds on old ideas and tropes from the TV show whilst presenting it with new aliens and worlds. It doesn't even hit you over the head with the "REMEMBER THIS?" iconography, but rather it's got some references to deep cuts from the franchise through the technobabble dialogue. Pegg is such a nerd. I loved it.
The Sabotage scene doesn't work for me.
yea...after 40 years or so i discovered Sulu is gay. But...after what they did to other characters like Kahn...heck...not a surprise. Not interested yep.
Sort of agree - this is the most Trek since Nemesis. But UD seemed like a dry run for the wrong-headedness of ID to me.
I love Mark he honestly goes to bat for any film, I can't stand artsy fartsy critics who hate blockbuster level movies but Mark judges & comments about a movie on the quality it has within its target audience & genre etc.
Definitely a more credible critic than most.
Yes great point
You all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account?
I was stupid forgot the password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@Brysen Dash Instablaster =)
"I wasn't a fan of Star Wars untill the JJ Abrums film" u wot m8?
"all this works well..stop doing that..." hahaha
I didn't realize Mark and Simon were married
They have been for about 10 years now.
To each other?
Yes, 6:40 to 6:55 for example
You must be new here.
As a big Star Trek fan who really hasn't been a fan of the two JJ Abrams films, I have to say I thought this was much more enjoyable.
By far the best part of the film is the characters interaction which is great, I also like the fact that it isn't just a Kirk/Spock/Bone's film in the way most of the films have been. The humour works well and the acting spot on. The story is ok, though nothing more, it doesn't have the silliness of 'Trans warp beaming' which is just annoying or other huge plot holes.
The big negative is the baddies motivation just feels odd and the action scenes just feel too busy and over the top. Also when bad things are happening to the Enterprise, it doesn't have the feel of impending doom that it should.
Over all though a good film and much better than the last two films.
Wrong, Bones was diminished to near cameo role in Into Darkness
oscar o baoill I was including the original film series, which are very much Kirk/Spock/Bones film. So not wrong but maybe I should have made that clearer.
ah, no problem
First contact is my favourite trek, it holds up well.
Mark Kermode's reviews could be summed up with "HEY, YOU! DON'T WATCH THAT! WATCH THIS!"
It was soo much better than the previous two movies. Never liked JJ Trek at all. Beyond was a huge step up, bringing back some desperately needed charme and character interaction. And the screen wasn't permanently filled to the brim with distracting, unnatural lensflares anymore!
Star Trek II - Wrath of Khan is the best Star Trek movie....ever
2nd Best of all Time.
First Contact
"First Contact" isn't even in the top 4.
+B CH It really isn't. Any of these 3 could be higher. (Personal Opinion)
Love the bickering. It always makes me smile. :)
I thought it was pretty inconsequential. It was enjoyable, but felt nothing more than an extended television episode put on the big screen. It all felt a bit small-scale for me.
A lot of the comments seem to be praising it for a return to its roots, but I didn't quite get it in the end.
I watched it last night and found it dreadfully boring.
Huge amounts of exposition, with Simon Pegg calling up characters to explain obvious points of the plot because they clearly didn't trust the audience to be intelligent enough to understand what was going on.
What bothered me the most is how every problem or moment of peril was solved by completely convenient plot contrivance.
"OH NO! Our deblabber core is broken. How will we solve this problem?"
"Oh, don't worry, I have a jar of marmite, which just happens to be the very one thing which fixes deblabber cores."
OH NO! The enemy have a sploogle beam weapon. How will we get out of this one?"
"Oh, don't worry, it just so happens that sploogle beams are ineffective against people who wear pink socks. I conveniently happen to have a pair of pink socks for every member of the crew."
And the bit at the end with the surfing and the music...UGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Maybe I have lost my sense of humour, but it just made me roll my eyes. My friend, who sat next to me, let out a sigh.
Most fun I've had at the movies all summer! Perfectly in keeping with everything I love about all incarnations of this property and bringing a fresh story/adventure. Can't wait to see it again!
Chas Smash AKA Cathal "Carl" Smyth sang the words.
Kermode is a 50's cockney binman. Mayo is a 1980's relic . But together, for 20-odd years they have been really good at putting out proper movie reviews.
And I can't hear anything they have to say about the film because I'm yelling "Chas Smash!" at the radio...
The Beastie Boys sequence is the best one this summer by a mile
Doesn't beat the other Star Trek Beastie Boys sequence though.
Very likeable movie. Light-hearted, humourous and with clear themes. My favourite of the reboots.
Saw Star Trek 2009 again yesterday, it still feels like Star Trek Nemesis as imagined by Michael Bay.
Pretty subjective. A kind of unfair.
Johnny Skinwalker Nah not really. Michael Bay doesn't even try with character. But J.J. does.
Nineteen1900Hundred J.J Abrams didn't write the script, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman did, the same people who wrote Transformers.
***** Neither does Michael Bay.
***** I agree with you but I definitely think there's many people in the world that are dumb.
Everyone loves Simon Pegg so no one wants to say how bad it was overall. The beaming up gag, and the radioactive jewelry joke, were the only laughs in our audience. Ugh: The distress signal setup. Calling her "lassie" with no comeuppance. Cuisinart action scenes. Idris uncompelling. Music as the kill button is from Mars Attacks. The excrement line DID fall completely flat...(more)
I'm not adding any more to the list of ... I just...meh. Trying to think of something good to say ...I guess Karl Urban was pretty good. Still love Hot Fuzz, a movie classic forever....
I want to know what it says on that piece of paper the guy brought into the room.
Seen it today and was properly entertained. Loved it plus That Tune in a cinema ,, magic
"Perfectly fine popcorn entertainment"? That's not what I want to hear about Star Trek film. :(
That Gallifrey comment is even better now.
I couldn't help, but notice your pain!
My pain?
Share it with me!
Glad that Tupac made use of that as a sample
00:26 Just imagine the script read through "I'm doing what, with who?!" said God.
The film is well acted, well characterised, stylish, well written, intriguing, well scored & is A terrific entry into the rebooted series. (86%) (4.5/5 stars) (positive)
My secret hope is they replace Anthon Yelchin with Nick Frost and write in a cornetto line.
I'm liking this video strictly for the "Pontius Pilates" joke. Absolutely genius.
Nothing can beat Undiscovered Country IMO.
i went back and watched wrath of khan, and it really wasn't very good at all.
+Matthew Clark I agree. I watched it yesterday and it was so incredibly boring.
first contact
Come everyone knows the best is the one where they go back in time to 1980s San Francisco.
that was 5. Not undiscovered Country.
You can jump to 2:41 before they even start discussing it.. Trouble with Kermode is his critical faculties seem to desert him when he is discussing Trek. He's obviously a huge fan-boy and as such is viewing the current output through rose-tinted glasses. They also didn't mention this film had its director replaced half way through production which is NEVER a good sign for the end product.
Star Trek did amazing on every even movie, but the reboot seems to do great on the odd movies. My only complaint on the movies is that they don't grab on to their seats and shake about as they did on the T.V. set. If that is the future world then it exists and thus must be represented as so. Furthermore, the beaming needs to take that time and use the same graphics every time. Simple complaints which would make me feel so happy to see that the bugs in new technology are there as they should be.
Star Trek Beyond is absolute garbage.
The great things about this film was racial variety, strong female character not used just for the sake of illuminating the male lead, special effects were amazing. There were definite problems but I was satisfied overall
I enjoy that song a lot. Thanks for bringing it up.
These guys love JJ Abrams for reasons that many dislike him. Because of their reverence of him, it's tough to tell where their review lines up with my taste. Combined with other reviews, it sounds like this is a really good Summer Blockbuster, and a surprisingly good Star Trek movie. Focusing on the ensemble and going away from Chris Pine (who is pretty terrible) seems to be where they've gone with this one. Good choice.
The trailer will have failed this movie if it doesn't do well opening weekend. The trailer made it look like rubbish, and definitely not a Star Trek movie.
This one wasn't directed by Abrams.
owhwaodwa I know. I was saying their general taste in cinema is tough to gauge due to their love of all things Abrams.
The enterprise was destroyed in STar trek 3. It meant something. It was destroyed in the first next gen movie, and meant nothing. new trek does it in 3 as well, but I just don't care.....
I saw it this morning, good engaging fun with some creative cinematography, though not a single joke in the film lands.
I'm still kinda bummed that Claudio Miranda (Tron Legacy, Life of Pi and Oblivion) didn't do the cinematography.
GiRayne It might be different with better audiences but the crowd this morning had no one even chuckling.
Zack Thomas Roper That would have been cool but I promise theres some really cool stuff, the space station in the first act was awe-inspiring.
I think the clip they showed would have worked if it wasn't in every trailer.
There's no need to like or dislike this film, - it's just a movie. However, I'm remiss to let the point slide.
Remaking Star Trek as action movies of fast running, jumping, shooting, blam blam whosh smash, crack it to 11 and electrify the warp core, falls as flat as remaking Thelma and Louise in the style of Sex and the City.
The characters are there in name and flat-pack, but everything that happens is contrary to the nature of the story. So yes, enjoy the movie and it's pop-cornedness, but when Thelma and Louise meet and decide to get over their troubles by going on a wild shopping spree and road trip to Vegas, giving favours to bar tenders and sipping Cosmopolitans by the craps table - we'll all wonder if we haven't been cheated out of what was once an endearing and engaging story.
I'm off to watch a Next Generation episode, where I can enjoy a philosophical and character driven story.
back in your cave, troll....
erm, blow me?
What's your name, troll?
Well Mr J McKendry, I hope the real people in your life find you as interesting to talk to. How's that going by the way; with the real people in your life? Things going well? Quite popular with your friends?
Hey, you tell me. I just wanted to see how easy it was to bait an internet troll - and yes, it seemed to take 3 message before you turned tail.
I hope you can still get fulfilment from being snarky to people on the internet though; if that's the only way you can get attention from people, I mean. Wouldn't want you being too lonely where ever you are, Me J McKendry. Maybe there's an abortion counselling site where you can tease women there? If that's what you're into I mean.
Wrath and Journey Home are so brilliant. Search for Spock acts as a nice middle of the trilogy. Loved Beyond, hated the other two.
Kermode...why no review of #Kabali?
This is the biggest film release in Asia...!!
It's the first one without those darn lens flares, I like it better than 1 but khan always nails it even if it is cumberbatch n not Ricardo
JJ Abrams is a journeyman director at best, his third acts always fall apart.
I guess Kermode is a J. J. Abrams fanboy.
This was honestly one of the worst films I've ever seen. The acting and character development was terrible, I was very tempted to leave. I didn't care about any of them, I barely understood what was going on. Mark I feel like you're being a bit lazy with this review, saying it's a fine popcorn movie sounds like you've been paid by the studio but are trying hard to not be negative about it.
I've enjoyed a lot of Star Trek TV episodes in the past, and I liked the reboot films, but this was a return to Star Trek's reputation of being awful in film-format. Mayo was right when he said everything looked like polystyrene, except he failed to also put the cast and plot in that plastic category.
Beyond is the first new Star Trek that actually feels like a Start Trek, JJ versions feel like SW wannabes. Tone, characters - the whole thing feels so much closer to old Star Trek movies.
"When they beamed down to the surface it looked like the to series from the 70s'. Christ
BIG BOLD LETTERS
Did Mark and Simon tie the knot yet?
ha
Leave that watch alone, Simon
"What was going on with the one where Kirk had a fight with God, bluuurgh"..."well, He wasn't actually God"...answered your own pithy criticism there lads. Also you're setting the film up for a fall by saying "everybody loved the first Star Trek", well I doubt that but hey ho, critics love making definitive statements, even if they're false
Indeed, One Step Beyond is Chas Smash not Suggs.
So they can't perform it anymore... 😨
Star Trek beyond was like fast and furious with starships lol. A bit too over the top action, but spectacular to
look at though. Not much Star Trek'ness to it like not much happening in engineering, not much scanning and science. Just blow up the enemy before they blow u up.
They take too long to get to the review. Too much filler talk. I wanna know about the new movie. Is it worth seeing or not? That's what I want to know.
no 720p?
I only saw this the other day, THREE years later!. LAUGHED as Mayo complained about the "polystyrene" sets on the planet.That is EXACTLY what jumped out at me straight away.The "rocks" looked as fake as F**k.Also SICK of simon Pegg and his very unfunny Scotty.HOW MUCH MONEY has Star Fleet now spent replacing the Enterprise time and time again?. It must be......ASTRONOMICAL!. LOVED 1, not keen on 2. £....OK ish.
Skip all the fluff, and straight to beyond info 2:21
Mark didn't really say what he didn't like about the film
Utter swill. Incomprehensible rubbish. Ridiculous action sequences punctuated by leaden humour. Boring characters who you couldn't care less about. Plus the FX were inconceivably a tad ropey. I struggled to stay awake and couldn't wait to leave.
I'm sad to say but I really didn't like this film. The gulf between silliness and seriousness was too great in it. I loved the previous two JJ star treks but I just didn't enjoy this as much :(
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people miss episodes of Doctor Who? hm...
I normally agree with Mr K on movies but not this one, the film didn't feel like a Trek Film at all, beastie boys and motorbikes wtf. Plus the swarm just seem like a really cheap cgi blur of movement. Like that many ships came up from the planet surface anyway smh. Aspects we're good, treating the real death of the original spock aka Leonard Nimoy, Sophia whatshername with the stripey black and white face makeup, george? town city in space bubble thing. But the worse of the lot and a bit dull to be honest.
The Villian was very weak. Idris elba was wasted. They could have sneaked in a bit more social commentary with the unity vs devision theme. The Beastie boys scene was horrific, a plot device stolen from Mars Attacks. Great. It's better than Independence Day Resurgence though.
That's what I was waiting for as well, for the themes of unity vs division* to be developed. I found myself asking what is this movie about? It was like an unintentional slow burner but then it eventually picked up and I was satisfied overall. The special effects were amazing imo
+bob polo yeah it looked good but in the context of the hero vs villain genre which is over crowded right now, it is a very average and forgettable movie. I dare them to do better and take a risk with the next one, make Star Trek shine and do away with a villain entirely.
Ricardo Warner Do away with the villain? Then what
yeah, the best Trek stories have no villain at all.
But Star Trek 2, Star Trek 6, and First Contact all have villains.
good review
Not interested. This is a complete circus.
What in gods name is he blathering about
star trek
Mark Kermode manages to speak so much waffle without ever really saying anything substantial or intelligent...The fact that he thinks Farce Awakens is a good movie also tells you how ignorant he is about good film making.. Star Trek 2009 is the ONLY movie JJ Abrams has made that is any good...ST Beyond is ok, but it would have been better if the talentless Simon Pegg had less to do with it.
I hate Pegg's 'Scotty'. His character is just there for filler. Constant wise-cracking is tiresome beyond belief and not even funny. He's just turned the character into an unfunny joke. Doohan's Scotty had some genuinely funny moments but surely the character has to be serious at least SOME of the time..
BBC is on the payroll of Klingons.
It's no secret that klingons wants to destroy the Start Trek franchise. They are behind this silly script in the latest installment.
Star Trek started simple.
The techno/geeky/logic dialogs that tried to comprehend the problems and find the solutions are gone.
Replaced by some action and significantly influenced by the Star Wars is destroying the spirit of the Star Trek logic.
The Fist-Fight with God (which wasn't *actually* what happened - He was a Noah-style rock-monster) was in fact ENTIRELY Shatner's idea.
And I now realise that that is the ONLY good part of that movie.
WAY better than Noah.
I enjoyed the first two but found this one rather tiresome.
Star Trek where Kirk had a fistfight with God ???? what ? when ??
No, Kermode got it wrong. Kirk didn't have a fight with God. The character portraying Spock's brother had a sort of 'wressle' with an alien passing itself off as God.
Thanks , What film / tv episode ?
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. The scene is towards the end.
awful movie
Poor review, ends with Kermode droning on and on about spock and relationships. Very wishywashy. Did he even see the Movie ?
Didn"t like this film. Rank it alongside "star trek motion picture" as one of the worst. Too many holes in the plot and convenient ways to solve problems. Motorboike, invisible ship etc. I can suspend belief but only to a point !
So you don't like cloaking devices or holograms? ;)
Since the klingons were the only ones with a cloaking device and thst was some time in the future it comes as a surprise to find the technology was available when kirk was in his youth. And since he helped the least they could do was share that technology. Scotty was hanging on "by one hand on a cliff edge but they never showed how he managed to save himself or any help he recieved. I"ve watched star trek since the 70"s and loved the first two films of this young starship version." Beyond" felt rushed and stunted. Just an opinion but felt it was poor compared to the first two though we were spoilt especially with the first one !
mediocre film...
Mark i really thought you were a quality movie lover and i am disgusted by your positive review of this piece of SH.....T,and i know what i am saying as i saw every one of the 700plus episodes and all the movies this is by far the very Worst,it´s BEYOND worst!!!
Wow, Karl Urban has a GREAT head of hair on him!