TnY vs. Artosis $300 Showmatch on Big Game Hunters
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"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 builds once, but I fear the man who has practiced one build 10,000 times. Unless it's TnY." - Artosis
LMFAO
It's interesting than TnY started this best of 5 with exactly 5997 wins on his account, meaning winning the series would involve hitting 6k wins by beating Artosis
The good ol' Carrier rush strat on BGH.
Most people only play one race, but this guy plays only 1 map and 1 strat
the fatslob of SC?
actually 2 strats
It's been ages since I played Star Craft, but I remember BGH was hated as a trash noob map for a reason
@@SeeAndDreamify I think the gateway strat was a panic switch, it didn't look as practiced and seemed very improvised. Still caught Artosis by surprise though
@@SonofTiamat it's still a fun map. Not a place for skill, but a place for fun and memes
Awesome games! Very fun to see different types of games where u have u think a little different
I agree. Showmatches of weird stuff are always good stream content and hopefully good stuff for you to edit also ,eh? ^^
The M&M/firebats/waiths combo was really cool before an 8-player money map stomped on it.
If you're invisible men productions, then how come I can see you?!?
@@larry1videorater96 Artosis scanned me
This is the type of content I like to see 👍
Honestly speaking, despite Artosis general bitching about P being broken, I have to say that on bgh, it actually is. the map being huge allows for multiple ninja exp that are really far for terran to snipe, and the double gas in main grants a free carrier rush pretty much every time. I'm sure if this was played on any random ladder map, TnY would not have taken a single game from Artosis, but on bgh it was quite close. Also count that if the spawns are 2 close, which can happen at 1-3 , 6-7 and expecially 11-12 P has a very easy game harassing T while expanding already anywhere else on the map. Even if P gets somehow choked in main, which on regular maps means a win for T automatically, on bgh it isn't really a big deal because of the infinite minerals and the big distance from all the other ninja expos he can take. I have to say bgh is an extremely frustrating map to play for T against P.
On the flip side, Terran gets comfortable choke points and double gas for free.
@@ModusOperandi2009 that doesnt seem to do anything for T on this map, as you've seen carriers can be massed so fast that T is on a timer to push out so turtling up doesnt help.
@@ModusOperandi2009 gas is not really a huge thing for TvP. That much gas is huge in PvT though. So advantage Protoss for sure.
@@yangpaan453 Agreed, you noticed that last game he just made a timing push and crippled the P right when he needed to. 2 carriers is much better to deal with than 10. Pillow forting against a P on BGH is near suicide unless you really know what you're doing, and even then you can get really unlucky.
Yea if it wash flash , light, nada, boxer it would be easy money
i missed watching full arto games, i cant usually catch the streams
He starts streaming exactly when I'm going to sleep. First world problems.
Same for me! I don't understand why we dont get gameplay videos anymore :((
In the immortal words of Idra: "You're very good at building carriers. Thats an important skill toi have"
I'm so happy to see this, BGH is halfway between a regular map and Fastest so it was interesting to see. I'm scared a little because don't think many people will like this 1 hour long format but I appreciate it. A little bit more variety would have been better but so is life.
Protoss strategy:
-Play BGH.
-Carriers.
-Win.
Dikk a szája
And this strat happens to be a hard counter to RT's playstyle, because neither tanks nor vultures can shoot in the air :D
I used to have friendly 1v1s with tny back in the day, he sure had many people who didn't like him but he was on my friends list. I did have one game where I smurf 1v1d him tvp and nuke rushed him, replay might still be out there lol. Good times.
Post replay pls, i gotta see it
for someone who likes timing attacks, it took Arty till 5th game, to realize that early stage of carrier buildings puts protoss in a vulnerable position
This was so much fun to watch please post more of your games
This should be a recurring theme from RT's stream. "RT's BGH Challenge"
Arty: Sees carriers when he goes mech.
Also Arty: Starts building 3 starports instead of spamming gols and turrets at his main
Also Arty: Toss is op because terra can't build starports and mass wraith before finished carriers fly across map.
Did he pay the $300?
probably not lol
I dunno why In game two as he’s taking out his nexus artosis sees the carriers. His reaction is to build 4 tech buildings and continue depot production instead of mass turrets with goliaths behind that. He def has a solid 2 minutes to get some static defenses up
Yes please post more full games it makes me better
hahahaha that progression from "oh this is actually kinda interesting!" to fucking MADDD was hilarious
That was crazy! Really just brings to light how much the maps play in the balance of sc1. Really impressive games Artosis, awesome stuff.
I feel like BGH was literally the only map he could do carriers like this. His goon harass was so bad yet he was still able to get into that many carriers game 2.
He didn't need to expand. Any other competitive map and he doesn't take a map.
You should get the replays to Tasteless and get him to cast these games.
Yep, have him sarcastic about how bad T players are lolz
"I had to have that scan to win the game" Meanwhile is 50/50 supply blocked
Epic. "Hotkey didn't make" is canonized.
Was a lot of fun, interesting matchups where it was carrier, carrier and carrier
That was interesting. Clearly protoss player was worse Starcraft player than Arto but map knowledge gave him some level of edge. I think it was somewhat balanced and was unsure who would win best of 5. Well done!
When he finally made turrets in the last game 😂😂😂
That was a ton of fun to watch, thanks for posting it. gg!
24:45 the fact arty didn’t just throw down a dozen turrets at home right then to buy time for goliaths is on him. At that point you need to just stay alive until you can best the carriers
I don't think he knew that on a map with lots of resourses the protoss player default setting is to go to carriers. Either that or he underestimated his opponent.
@@SargentGunnery ya he def didn’t know how easy it is to get carriers. But once you see the carriers, turrets. Just get them down and stay alive
Regardless, he won a best of 5 on a map he had virtually no experience on against a person who has over 10,000 hours of experience on it.
If Artosis played this guy 100 times on bgh he would probably end up winning the last 50 in a row.
He also did not prioritize making goliaths , he could’ve had 8 and a wraith or two with the next 4 ready to pop out if he started production as soon as he saw the carriers 💀
@@petercha4092 yea ... if he was doing commentary on this game, he would have begged Terran to get Goliaths .. he did so many times in these situations ... lets face it ... Arty was not in his prime state of mind these games
Carriers every game? Such talent
reminds me of a fellow named fatslob in aoe2
@@gyozanomics With fatslob, it's not whether or not he wins... It's whether or not he makes someone play an 8 hour game and cry himself to sleep at night.
I thought the M and M strat in game 1 was interesting. I figured you would 100% go mech
He was going mech until he was able to scout stargate tech and lack of an army for his opponent with his vultures which is a huge tipoff that opponent is going carrier. Arty didn't have his armory yet so he threw down a bunch of barracks because he wouldn't have time to get into goliaths.
so did his opponent, pretty much anyone that goes marine medic and gets scouted loses to reaver or storm.
If the player doesn’t have splash damage then marine medic is the best counter to carriers
that was brilliant by Artosis. He figured that's the perfect counter against early carriers, because mm work quite fine against them if they're still in the 4-5 range, while goliaths take up 2 much gas and would have taken 2 long to push.
Would a few ghosts with lockdown help a lot since it was pretty obvious the guy would go carrier every game?
Imagine you build first carrier and there is “nuclear launch detected”
This was a great video. thanks for posting it.
big game hunters was my childhood man
Why does Artosis have the same shirt as Bert from Sesame Street?
why cut right after the last game, i wanted to hear RTs thoughts on it
Damn only didn't go carriers when he was close by air lmao the mind games
Do people play The Hunters map, the one that released with the game?
Really fun to watch
How much time do you need to take a second base 😮
About the scout, I think on this map u have to go after make a depot. Even think about one scv each direction to see what the gameplay will be for prottoss. I think the less worse to this map is marine, tank and goliaths. I think you need to take the close expansion cause if not the economy don't grow fast enough. I don't think marine only is good cause he can just switch and attack on ground. But maybe we should just ask flash 📸
Actually, on BGH i scout straight after starting 1st pylon (on 7 population). Also most players are ok not expanding ... this is BGH (not regular hunters), just make a lot of SCV/drones/probes, and you won't know how to spend it.
Wanne see the replay file of those games.
nice games from both players and chat was on fire! XD
Nice job, RT!
this was a wild ride alright
GG Arty! That was great :D
this makes me very happy
What does "a5 // 5" mean?
Phenomenal performance!!!
Last game was hilarious!
Did he go nexus first on any games? I feel like that's high % win especially vs artosis.
Loved it Arty. Great job you stud! More BGH!
With this map its to easy to go nexus first and have your first carrier before artosis can scout. Then if you do counter carrier protoss can switch into anything and finish you.
Protons is OP because Terran has to be completely reactive, 'toss has many game-ending cheeses, and Terran move-out has to be flawless. Even then toss can backstab.
Laughs in flying zerg monkeys
PROTONS IMBA
how is it reactive? just build some tech and push. thanks to narrow roads you have a shitload of good positions to take. if he actually builds zeals/goons just wait till 200 limit and upgrades then he dies
scouting only with 1 scv is not good. you also need to send 1st marine to scout in oposite direction on this map
Classic BGH Protoss player with the carrier rush. Toss is broken in this map
Honestly a fun series to watch. But also frustrating to see how OP some P strategies are. Like P can get DTs so early and then do anything they want behind it basically. And T just cannot leave their base to do anything about it basically until they get to science vessels, which is way fkin late and P can already easily have some carriers by then.
Science vessel the last detector in Terran tech tree. Comsat station and missile turrets come first
so any protoss starts with dt because its imba lol?
How you not gonna show the aftermath chat and/or payment!
This is sooo good😄🙌
Love the wholesome content. Much better than the Twitch garbo
BGH, the map where people who wish they were playing Civilization. It almost feel like playing Monopoly
I'm so hyped
The wraith play should be in ASL highlights
Why do they never expand?
Jesus, just carriers every time? This guy is a clown
4th game didn't have any carriers
The guy seems to have figured out a carrier rush strat would give him the edge and Artosis countered it with M+M.
@@Ghooostie at that point you don't even need a costume
standard protoss tactics :D
Post these full games arty, R-Tee
I think you should be making another cc at some point or multiple ccs to boost your acv production and income.
I haven't played sc1 in years but I'm curious, why not consider making a few Goliaths to take out this one trick pony making a handful of carriers?
Just curious how you met your wife, and if she is from pei how she came to korea
Considering Arty doesn't know BGH, it's so easy for this guy to hide Stargates every single game.
Bastard still had carriers in the end....
That toss was a total clown.
That was awesome.
Archons, carriers , arto does marines??!! wow
Justice prevails
More games without TTS. Beautiful
Protoss cheese with those noob carriers
Did arty get the prize money?
Tosis is on BGH and doesn't even touch tanks when the Toss goes ground game. Tanks on BGH are OP
1:00:00 what you are doing with those wraiths had me shouting at the screen. why didn't you just kill all his probes?
This was so fucking stressful to watch.
This was a fun bo5. The other guy seems like he's played big game hunters forever, and is a good player but came off like a one trick pony.
Why not expand? I wonder
52:42 he's using com-sat but why isn't it showing the enemy base?
that was only the sound of selecting the building, the comsat scan has a different kind of beeping.
BGH, I thought is a 1-1-1, quick dropship map for terran.
Artosis works hard for the money.
Hope the guy paid up.
One base marine for almost 20 minutes then tilt for almost 20 minutes, sort of a high intensity interval bw
1:14:56 why are you not attacking the pylon?
I’m confused why you aren’t going mech in these games
MM counters carriers really well, and the other player was going carrier every game
There's no open ground for gols. They'd get picked off little by little as the carriers can choose to engage and disengage at any point.
I expected something more. Like, stasis on SCVs or mass dark archons.
what happened last game, like, trying not to spoil it, what was the loser's intended strategy?
Get carriers out before Artosis pushed. If Artosis turtled for another minute or two instead of pushing the guy woulda won
He was probably hoping RT didn't make a million turrets.
thats what its really like bgh 1v1 vs protoss
gj Artosis!
mission failed. we'll get next time
in the second game, if TnY would've killed Art's scanner, would've been GG cause the DT wouldn't killed a ton of his marines.
Carrier good unit
I've probably played hundreds of games on Hunters - which is why I watched Arty play on the map with great interest. In the first game he builds tons of marines with medics and siege tanks and goes to destroy the opponent's base - WHILE BARELY escaping his own base being destroyed by mass carriers. How he escaped destruction was impressive. In the second game he also builds siege tanks - except he doesn't have marines - and THERE ARE NO TURRETS IN THE MAIN until too late - at which point there is ONE. DUDE. You've almost lost previous game because of no turrets. In the second game you don't have marines - AND YET YOU FORGET TURRETS - AGAIN - this time you don't even have bunkers. The moment Arty spots/hears carriers - he should have built a forest of turrets in his main - yet he's fiddling around with siege tanks in the opponents base (which are going to be killed anyway). Jesus, Arty - I've never been able to say this - because your level of play is one of the top 100 globally - but this was sloppier than I could ever have played. Will show this game to my kid - on how NOT TO PLAY - ie, how not to be sloppy. So I guess - thanks for that, greetings from Latvia. Edited: and most hilariously, he rages about the game that it's "broken" and that Protoss is OP. No, Arty. JUST NO.
The real question: Did the man pay up?
man if the guy just played straight up he would coast on how ez protoss is. but he tried to carrier way too early.
He would've been wrecked if he played straight up. The guy just did abusive strats relying on the imbalance of the map.
@@abstractdaddy1384 not when he went ground + ht
He plays bgh because he doesn't want to play straight up. He tries playing ladder and gets 2 fact all day probably. So he instead plays bgh to do "real strategies" and avoid all the "sweaty nerds" and their "macro" and "builds"
@@Virtua..
If I'm not mistaken Artosis got last scout in that game. Last scout on an 8 player map is horrible (that's why bgh sucks).
If the guy played ht/arbiter every game, Artosis would get to play mech and would roll him.
If Artosis gets a late scout he can easily get unlucky either by playing mech and then oops it was fast carriers, or playing MM and oops it was HT.
imo he could have waited 2nd nexus to go for carriers because the distance in general on bgh heavily favours P. T can't really push for anything if P chokes him at the mid while trying to get out. but I guess he knew Artosis was better than him so he tried to abuse carriers asap
That guy he played against is actually so infuriating to watch. "i could beat artosis in a bo5 lol" when all he does is carrier - except for 1 game which just so happens to be the only game artosis didnt have tanks. how can you think youre good if you rely on ONLY making 1 high tier unit asap. Any donkey can get out carriers..
Did RT get paid?
and if you scout him and he is not building army, only probes and carriers go kill him every time like last game. But Arty didn't scout like he should every game...