As for the reflection on opening image, I think for this story it would be cool if in the first scene on the train, she (Kelly?) had an issue with the thief stealing from ordinary people, by pickpocketing at the start. And then in the end they could be on the beach, and someone drops their wallet and the thief returns it. The theme could still be the trials for the "American Dream", and they understand that it's not other people that are the enemy that's why they steal an expensive egg from a museum and not an individual. It's a small character arc but still, something. 😅
i guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account?? I somehow forgot the account password. I would love any help you can offer me
@Hassan August i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
I like how while taking notes on the video i was also running a small movie in my mind. The story was interesting and your video is very useful as i was struggling to find a proper story structure to work my story on and i am excited try it. Thanx alot!
I think at the end it should have a dilemma: either the egg (being rich) or the friendship (relation with brother Greg maybe?) There's more potential in this story. Still, nicely done in 20 minutes!
Thanks so much for this, as I decided yesterday to go with Save the Cat instead of 27 Chapter! But I must say that this outline has a decided lack of goblin moths 😉😆(if you know, you know). Also, would y'all ever make a video about how to develop subplots and balance them out within your plot? I'm struggling with subplots in general
Back in the sixties, the big relief from all the caper and heist movies coming out of our ears, was to finally hear someone furtively whisper that they weren't fun, and that stealing is wrong, and it costs somebody, the victims who have to pay the price. Back then, those movies depended on the perception that the only ones being stolen from were insurance companies, already thought to be thieves, themselves. That gave it a Robin Hood quality: steal from rich thieves, and give it to yourselves: sexy, a-moral sociopath-ettes, who were of course, the "representatives" of the poor, as well as the recipients of the proceeds. But no one bothered to mention that the insurance companies would not take a loss, but would pass it on to people who could least afford a financial loss. The ever-popular, sexy, sociopaths stonewalled the cries of the poor being priced out of survival. Like James Bond, those gazillions of fashionable, 60s sociopath movies, were never all that much fun. And here you thought it was a "summer of love". Amorality is boring, as well as heart-sickening. All the drama is between right or wrong, just or unjust, faithful or treacherous, merciful or ruthless.
I really just structure intuitively! The only specific plot points I make sure I have are the inciting incident and the climax, and for the rest of the book I just think about creating a 'causal chain' (aka a series of linked events, each causing the next) and adjust the pacing based on intuitive. I find splitting my book into parts and knowing the main arc of each part also helps me, and I look at each chapter as a mini-episode.
@@Reedsy Thank you for the answer! Maybe I'll try the intuitive method one day as well, it sounds potentially very interesting, specially on the first draft ;0
Nice video, clear. You forgot the post-credits scene: Olivia and Kelly raise glasses of champagne in a toast, and a plastic Fabergé egg rolls into frame. They look up to see Greg in sunglasses and a Hawaiian shirt, who says, "Really? St. Petersburg? Well, since we're all here, know of any good museums?-I feel I'm about to have enough to put a bid on an item or two."
I’m currently editing my first novel, and in some spots I feel like something is wrong, but I can’t pinpoint why it’s wrong. Do you have any advice for ways I can identify why something in my novel isn’t working?
Check out Abbie Emmons' channel. She helps you get to the heart of your story and character motivations so you can trim the fat off your plot. It's helped me tons.
Also, this is long and probably unnecessary, but I wanted to share this mindblowing revelation i had while trying to use this structure to get my story concept unstuck (it's not really mindblowing for skilled writers, probab, but i'm a beginner and my mind still has to get flexible about this whole hellcraft). I'm still in the early stages, so I don't know how good this will work out, but at least it got me out of my block and helped me understand my plot better -- i thought maybe it can help someone else, too! So, I'm plotting a romance, but the relationship development I had in mind felt way too complex for this structure to be applicable to it (which i think is partly due to my internalized mysoginy: in order not to feel guilty for writing romance, i somehow feel the need to make plots super weird). Anyway, then BOOM, I realized that I didn't need _one_ save the cat beat sheet; I needed three. I just needed to break my story into parts and apply a tiny Save the Cat to each of them. At the Finale of the first part, a relationship milestones gets unlocked (eg. now my characters trust each other), and the second part can begin with a new milestone in mind. Now everything suddenly feels consequential and organic, the plot is getting chemistry, the pacing feels right and I'm super thrilled about my story again. This has another advantage. A big problem i was having was that it felt wrong to choose one of the two characters as the overall protagonist. At the same time, I feel Save the Cat is much easier if you focus it on only one character; I don't think i have the skills yet to weave two character developments in the same beat structure, giving them both the same importance and keeping it balanced. But now, I can have each character as the protagonist of each of the first two parts; for the third part, well, I'll see, but it should be much easier to write them both because now, rather than reacting to each other, they'll have to react to the world around them to reach a common goal. I don't know if any of this makes sense, but I thought that my thought process could be interesting for someone writing the same thing - if anything to just learn from my mistakes :*
I'm writing a dual POV romance and i really want to dive in the psychology and emotions of the characters. But making a structure for each protagonist is so hard
@ Tryphène Kileki Check out Abbie Emmons' channel--she talks about how to get into character motivations for each character, and her approach is very easy to understand and intuitive. She also has POV help videos, and her favorite genre to write in is romance, so I think her videos would be a good fit for you. Her vids have helped me a lot.
I appreciate this video. Speaking only for myself, it would be easier for me to follow if you weren't bouncing back and forth between beats. Perhaps, some day, you could work out the sequence and content of the beats before you turn on the camera and then fill in the beats without bouncing back and forth. Thank you.
20:13 Uh, no. Degenerate characters cost too much to root for. At this point, I'm asking for my money back for the book/movie. I don't need cutsie evil in my brain.
What if the women were both being foeced, manipulated by someone who controls or coerces them? So, the twist is that there is a bigger criminal plot at play and Olivia and Kelly are the victims.?
The plot generator is nice!
This was awesome... I wrote out my beats at the same time as watching and it really helped so much... thank you!
As for the reflection on opening image, I think for this story it would be cool if in the first scene on the train, she (Kelly?) had an issue with the thief stealing from ordinary people, by pickpocketing at the start. And then in the end they could be on the beach, and someone drops their wallet and the thief returns it. The theme could still be the trials for the "American Dream", and they understand that it's not other people that are the enemy that's why they steal an expensive egg from a museum and not an individual. It's a small character arc but still, something. 😅
Very cool idea!
i guess Im asking randomly but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account??
I somehow forgot the account password. I would love any help you can offer me
@Hassan August i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Hassan August it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thank you so much you saved my account :D
@Andres Kristopher glad I could help :)
You are an impressive person. I just wanted to point that out.
@Legion ?
“Sketchily-minded” is my new favorite descriptor.
I like how while taking notes on the video i was also running a small movie in my mind. The story was interesting and your video is very useful as i was struggling to find a proper story structure to work my story on and i am excited try it. Thanx alot!
Excellent outline with such a good description of the details along each beat. Thank you for making this. 🙌😎
The lighting/color/styling during the “actual part of the video” is all lovely. Also, I love this channel so much!
Interesting how well screenwriting techniques work for prose. I wrote my novel after reading Sid Field’s book on the short screenplay.
You going through the process was a great example! I really appriciate this!
I think at the end it should have a dilemma: either the egg (being rich) or the friendship (relation with brother Greg maybe?) There's more potential in this story. Still, nicely done in 20 minutes!
Nice Typing-Speed.
Not God-Like, but decent.
Not like mine, but decent.
Thanks so much for this, as I decided yesterday to go with Save the Cat instead of 27 Chapter! But I must say that this outline has a decided lack of goblin moths 😉😆(if you know, you know).
Also, would y'all ever make a video about how to develop subplots and balance them out within your plot? I'm struggling with subplots in general
Abbie Emmons has a video on how to balance subplots C:
(Sorry my reply is a year after the fact 😬)
@@opalfenwick3953 thank u
Always grateful to Shaelin for everything she does
You have the vigor! Keep it, and don’t let go.
Thank you for this! Definitely adding this to my wheelhouse!
the beats remind me of the Movie taxi Driver. I need to watch it again and try to see the beats!
can you suggest a great book on comedy writing
sketch and sitcom
Thank you so much you channel very clear and helpful.
I am law student from Thailand
Back in the sixties, the big relief from all the caper and heist movies coming out of our ears, was to finally hear someone furtively whisper that they weren't fun, and that stealing is wrong, and it costs somebody, the victims who have to pay the price. Back then, those movies depended on the perception that the only ones being stolen from were insurance companies, already thought to be thieves, themselves. That gave it a Robin Hood quality: steal from rich thieves, and give it to yourselves: sexy, a-moral sociopath-ettes, who were of course, the "representatives" of the poor, as well as the recipients of the proceeds. But no one bothered to mention that the insurance companies would not take a loss, but would pass it on to people who could least afford a financial loss. The ever-popular, sexy, sociopaths stonewalled the cries of the poor being priced out of survival. Like James Bond, those gazillions of fashionable, 60s sociopath movies, were never all that much fun. And here you thought it was a "summer of love".
Amorality is boring, as well as heart-sickening. All the drama is between right or wrong, just or unjust, faithful or treacherous, merciful or ruthless.
How do you structure your novels, if not using plot structures? :) Just asking out of curiosity!
I really just structure intuitively! The only specific plot points I make sure I have are the inciting incident and the climax, and for the rest of the book I just think about creating a 'causal chain' (aka a series of linked events, each causing the next) and adjust the pacing based on intuitive. I find splitting my book into parts and knowing the main arc of each part also helps me, and I look at each chapter as a mini-episode.
@@Reedsy Thank you for the answer! Maybe I'll try the intuitive method one day as well, it sounds potentially very interesting, specially on the first draft ;0
@@Reedsy Thanks for the spontaneous explanation of the formulaic approach and your honesty in not using it yourself.
This is a very timely video, thanks!
What is the theme stated for harry potter first book? Is theme stated completely skipped there?
Anyone think this is only good if its genre writing for a novel or can I also apply it to literary fiction?
Nice video, clear. You forgot the post-credits scene: Olivia and Kelly raise glasses of champagne in a toast, and a plastic Fabergé egg rolls into frame. They look up to see Greg in sunglasses and a Hawaiian shirt, who says, "Really? St. Petersburg? Well, since we're all here, know of any good museums?-I feel I'm about to have enough to put a bid on an item or two."
I’m currently editing my first novel, and in some spots I feel like something is wrong, but I can’t pinpoint why it’s wrong. Do you have any advice for ways I can identify why something in my novel isn’t working?
Check out Abbie Emmons' channel. She helps you get to the heart of your story and character motivations so you can trim the fat off your plot. It's helped me tons.
Just watched the Christmas film Klaus and realised how it's a great example of Save the Cat
Are each beats chapters?
Fantastic! Would you create one of these for every character???
Very helpful thanks!
Love this, what if the brother was a cop?
Also, this is long and probably unnecessary, but I wanted to share this mindblowing revelation i had while trying to use this structure to get my story concept unstuck (it's not really mindblowing for skilled writers, probab, but i'm a beginner and my mind still has to get flexible about this whole hellcraft). I'm still in the early stages, so I don't know how good this will work out, but at least it got me out of my block and helped me understand my plot better -- i thought maybe it can help someone else, too!
So, I'm plotting a romance, but the relationship development I had in mind felt way too complex for this structure to be applicable to it (which i think is partly due to my internalized mysoginy: in order not to feel guilty for writing romance, i somehow feel the need to make plots super weird).
Anyway, then BOOM, I realized that I didn't need _one_ save the cat beat sheet; I needed three. I just needed to break my story into parts and apply a tiny Save the Cat to each of them. At the Finale of the first part, a relationship milestones gets unlocked (eg. now my characters trust each other), and the second part can begin with a new milestone in mind. Now everything suddenly feels consequential and organic, the plot is getting chemistry, the pacing feels right and I'm super thrilled about my story again.
This has another advantage. A big problem i was having was that it felt wrong to choose one of the two characters as the overall protagonist. At the same time, I feel Save the Cat is much easier if you focus it on only one character; I don't think i have the skills yet to weave two character developments in the same beat structure, giving them both the same importance and keeping it balanced.
But now, I can have each character as the protagonist of each of the first two parts; for the third part, well, I'll see, but it should be much easier to write them both because now, rather than reacting to each other, they'll have to react to the world around them to reach a common goal.
I don't know if any of this makes sense, but I thought that my thought process could be interesting for someone writing the same thing - if anything to just learn from my mistakes :*
I'm writing a dual POV romance and i really want to dive in the psychology and emotions of the characters. But making a structure for each protagonist is so hard
@ Tryphène Kileki Check out Abbie Emmons' channel--she talks about how to get into character motivations for each character, and her approach is very easy to understand and intuitive. She also has POV help videos, and her favorite genre to write in is romance, so I think her videos would be a good fit for you. Her vids have helped me a lot.
Can somebody please tell me what the "beat" means here? In what meaning is it used? Or how can we simply translate it into another language?
Beat means event. So the opening image beat simply means the opening image event.
I appreciate this video. Speaking only for myself, it would be easier for me to follow if you weren't bouncing back and forth between beats. Perhaps, some day, you could work out the sequence and content of the beats before you turn on the camera and then fill in the beats without bouncing back and forth. Thank you.
Great explanation! Thank you :)
great stuff.thanks .
Next video, Beat the Dog; a moment where a character is beaten either physically or mentally.
I'm just looking at the Catalyst and OCD by Rhett and Link is playing in my head: Missing parantheses! Uneven, capris! Dun dun.... Googling askew....
A good overview of Blake Snyder's 15 beat outline... And the girl's cute too.
Why is it named "Save the Cat" ?
Save the Egg?
She looks lesbian
"but I love that for them" 🤣
Wow
I think I felt in love with this woman.
Save the cat?
My dog does not approve of the title.
😛
is this why that one she-ra episode is named save the cat
Who doesn't want "Friendship Shenanigans"?
20:13 Uh, no. Degenerate characters cost too much to root for. At this point, I'm asking for my money back for the book/movie. I don't need cutsie evil in my brain.
What if the women were both being foeced, manipulated by someone who controls or coerces them? So, the twist is that there is a bigger criminal plot at play and Olivia and Kelly are the victims.?
Nice Typing-Speed.
Not God-Like, but decent.
Not like mine, but decent.