not based on who’s the most powerful only by skill with a lightsaber and don’t comment this person should be higher because every placement is debatable. Don’t get too triggered this is just my opinion + check out @force_user
@@kato9158 it says most skilled duelist not Most skilled Force user so technically as long as they can wield lightsabers or any weapon for that matter fits.
@@MinuteManYT He was trained by Count Dooku one of the best Lightsaber duelist, He fought Five full-pledged Jedi and a Padawan single handedly without having force powers. two of those Are Jedi Masters; Shakti and Ki-adi Mundi. He may not be the best but he is probably somewhere on top 25.
I don't think Grievous was even really nerfed, I think he's just a jobber and his opponents get plot armor. Also a little bit of people underrating his opponents, and not taking into account things like say, his opponents already being tired at the battle of Hypori for instance. When Grievous needs to be formidable, he suddenly still is, and according to lore he's still cracked.
He liked to cheat like using magna guards and comandos then pulling a blaster if all else fails like the only jedi he fought one on one would be obi-wan
Actually he never did, it was only mentioned as a RUMOR in a non canon old wii game, and even if you would want to consider the game canon, it was only a rumor, not an actual fact…
@@espadose people keep acting like he ain't on par with Exar Kun and Revan. To call this man a master lightsaber duelist isn't doing his skills justice.
Obi Wan is overrated. His skill with a blade is indeed impressive and made him above average, but he's not legendary status, just above average. Thats why he got ragdolled by Dooku and why Anakin defeated dooku ez. (Yes, I get a part of it was that Dooku went easy on Ani, but that was only for little bit. He went all out on him mid battle and Dooku commented how Anakin was "the finest practitioner of Form V" hes ever seen.)
@@altair227 I always got this quote on speed dial for y'all Kenobi stans because even if he did sacrifice himself for Luke's escape, he would have never been able to kill Vader: "Your powers are weak, old man." Our lightsabers clash. I try to push forward, only to be thrust violently back. It's like striking iron. There's no give in Vader's arms, and far too much in mine. ... "You should not have come back," Vader tells me. My resources are depleted, my body screaming with pain. I have no hope of winning this fight. He lunges at me; slash and counterslash, stab and riposte. The air is thick with plasma discharge, lights dancing on the edge of my vision. I'm forced back, muscle burning, breath ragged. The grip of my lightsaber is slick in my hands, my ears ringing. -- From A Certain Point Of View: Time Of Death
@@tristenrainey1461the Video isnt about the force, Just about lightsaber dueling, thats why I dont understand why Luke is number one. There are Others on the bottom on the list which are way more talented in dueling than him.
Darth Malak (is my favourite Sith, personal preference) is a strong user but I would argue his duelling skills were not as good as his connection to the dark side (arguably stronger connection than Revan) and his abilities in the dark side accompanying his fighting skills made him a relatively formidable opponent, considering Revan is the only one who seemed to be able to take him on and win
We Need to start including Cal Kestis. Canonically he's mestarted Single Bladed, double bladed, dual wielded and cross gaurded lightsabers. He's not someone to be taken lightly in lightsaber combat
As much as I agree. He's still very young and has way more to learn. But in terms of learning all those lightsaber forms... he'll earn his spot eventually.
Ну в топе его место я бы сказал выделено правильно Главное особенность его стиля навыков это поймать противника на ошибке. Все кто до него в списке в той или иной мере совершали оплошности во время дуэлей. Или делали расчет только на один навык(скорость или грубую силу) Что касается Йоды и Люка. У них навыки фехтование были отточенны до идеального уровня. По этому Ревану с ними сражаться будет тяжело, и скорее всего он проиграет им
Dooku was feared by darth plagueis before he turned to the darks side that he would become the next grandmaster because he was the best duelist in the Jedi order at the time. I think Dooku should be way higher up
In both Episode II and the book Dark Rendez-Vous, Dooku flew before Yoda in their duel because Yoda was too skillfull for him. He admitted it himself in dark rendez-vous. I personally think Mace is a better duelist than Dooku, and being grandmaster has nothing to do with the force and your dueslist rank.
Qui Gon was definitely OP as fuck, man trained the high ground master. But he was old as hell, chances are he would be at least 15th in his younger days
But he wasn’t always old as hell, he had his prime. The same way we saw Obi Wan and Anakin in their prime. They put him way too low, like the dude found out about force ghosts!
@@sebisnotemo Yes, but 1. They didn't list him in his prime because we don't know how powerful he was in his prime and we only ever saw him at 60 and 2. Discovering force ghosts doesn't make you any better at dueling.
@@solitarything1209 True, but he was trained by Count Dooku, and we knew that he was one of the greatest duelists in the Jedi Order, if not the BEST. We did only see him at 60, but canonically, he was an incredible duelist in Form IV, Ataru, which includes and consists of many type of acrobatic movements of dueling, like Master Yoda! It’s possible he was still a Master in Form IV, just didn’t jump all over the place like Yoda after one sip of coffee, lmao. Either way, I am rather convinced that the prequel trilogy nerfed him down a bit, because of his old age. I will admit, when I mentioned the fact that Qui Gon Jinn discovered force ghosts, I was completely unaware on the relative relation to being a skilled duelist. In other words, I forgot the title. There are a lot of controversial rankings on this list, not just Qui Gon Jinn. However, he IS my favorite Jedi, and I felt he was wronged being put in last place. I truly believe that the creator of this video, judged Qui Gon Jinn based on what little we got to see in the movie.
@@deepfreeze9293that’s what I thought too! The one defense I know is that tulak never fought a Jedi before. He died before the Sith and Jedi war started. But even so, never lost a duel and fought and won wars. He definitely should’ve been first
@@tonygonzales2696Tenebrae never lost a duel either. He was so strong that he didn't need a lightsaber. Tenebrae would actually toy with Tulak Hord. He would toy with anyone except full potential Anakin.
Indeed. There are also many Sith from the Old Sith Empire who would rekt someone like Vindican, for example. And everyone below him. But Exar Kun is the most obvious pick, he would be Top 10 easy. Some even have him as the absolute goat. To me, that is Tenebrae, as nobody was strong enough to duel him. He was literally defeated only because there were thousands upon thousands against him in the end.
Same here, plus you gotta admit even tbough it was only a short usage kao cen darach literally dual wields a dual bladed and single bladed saber while fighting one on two Yes its only short and yes he switeches to justnusingnone blade and activating the second to defeat vindican but still, it was badass to watch
@@fabiansproer378 I agree that his force power was lacking but it wasn't weak, he was able to block and then counter kfvs force push with one of his own and send him flying, cin was honestly a 6/10 force wise and a 10/10 saber wise
@@Lopnawe He did that in the video game. In the book he lost in 3 moves (which I'll just call a problem with the book because that kind of makes KFV too overpowered, and Cin Drallig is supposed to be the skill insert character for the stunt coordinator, and lore statements suggest he should be in the same tier as people like Yoda and Windu skillwise).
I don't see how mastering all forms of lightsaber combat makes you the best duelist ever? you could master one and still beat people who mastered more...
Vader reached a higher potential than his former self. And he is placed above Dooku on the list. The list is still scuffed though, since the Force is part of every duel. Which means Tenebrae would be goated and then Sheev on 2nd. After that it would probably be Exar Kun on 3rd.
@@Sandlund93 If we're going off of the force being part of every duel, why are any of those above Luke? Especially considering Sheev got his hand cut off in a duel with Luke in Dark Empire, failed to control his force storm, which Luke (with help from Leia and unborn Anakin) redirected? And Luke became way stronger after Dark Empire.
There were other eras, not just Windu's. We are talking 25000 years of galactic history here, being number 10 is insane. Obviously, Tenebrae and Exar Kun would push him down 2 pegs. And possibly someone like Freedon Nadd or Marka Ragnos too.
@@Sandlund93 Marka Ragnos (possessing someone else) loses to a 14 year old from Luke's academy. Granted, Jaden Korr is kind of cracked, I think people might be overselling ancient Sith sometimes for a number of reasons.
@@Jack-qe5qm Every one in Legends moves at that speed. Even in canon, when Anakin was watching Mace fight Sidious, he described it as a purple and red blur 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@niimitz8624 He didn't though. Sidious let him win to appear weak and helpless in front of Anakin. If Anakin hadn't stepped in Sidious wasn't gonna let himself be killed right there.
Revan is more like really overrated, bane underrated. This is already prooven by many ranking bane lower then revan in terms of strength, lightsaber and force mastery, even tough bane was by far superior to revan in all of these aspects.
we are talking solely about lightsaber combat, not force powers. I've seen the game, watched many playthroughs and cutscenes, his only major power is the force, that's how he wins fights, through his force powers, and while his lightsaber combat isn't bad it's also not amazing, if we take the force out of the equation Vader would probably defeat him in a duel.
@GammaBoy I mean... that's what happens when your entire fighting style is based on fighting against dark side/sith users. Look up what vaapad does for mace in a fight against dark side users
@@joycongod4831 feats and other things Lucas had said trump something else he said. Besides that is not guaranteed fact, archimedes can say something about a thing he invented that is flat out false
You can not put Plo Koon that early on in the list because he was the only Jedi EVER to beat Yoda in a sparing match and he was the only Jedi in the grand army of the republic to master let alone be able to use the skill of force judgment(force lightning for Jedi)
One fluke over 900 years means nothing. If anything, Plo Koon is the most overrated Jedi of all. He is just a simple Council member on 13k MC, nothing special. I'm not even sure I would put him on Top 50. There are simply too many Sith who would rekt him. He would rekt Maul though. Easy. But Maul is the most overrated Sith ever.
If they ever redo the original trilogy they need to give Luke a massive lightsaber skill rework on showing it cause the stuff for animating back then didn’t allow for the stuff we got in prequels
Anakin imo is probably around no.12-10 depending if he’s knightfall vader or not, lightside Anakin might best Mace if he doesn’t tap into the darkside, if he did he would lose, I doubt he’d beat prime Palpatine though + He would’ve beaten Obi Wan if the duel lasted any longer, he just got arrogant and form III counters V
@@niimitz8624 really? I feel like obiwan always somehow wins, and even though anakin was arrogant, that still means he’s not as good of a duelist as obi as he can’t control his emotions
And yet he gets ragdolled by Dooku. I mean, your lightsaber skill doesn't mean much if you're unconscious. Episode 4 Obi-Wan would fare better ofc, but a bunch of Sith would still beat him. At the very least Tenebrae, Sheev, Exar Kun and Revan. Most likely Vader too.
@@Sandlund93 in revenge of the Sith Dooku stated that he feared Obi Wan's skill w the blade that's why he used the force against him. Obi Wan defeated Maul twice, fought Savage Oppress + Maul at the same time and managed to cut off a limb, defeated Grievous, defeated evil Anakin, defeated Vader. Lol
@@khoanguyenduc2564 There is only one impressive feat among those, the duel on Mustafar. The other opponents are just practice for someone of Obi-Wan's calibre. And the Obi-Wan series is poor fan fiction. I still can't see him defeat Yoda, Dooku or the other 5 mentioned. That puts him at 8th at best, which is still insane among Millions of Force sensitives across 25000 years.
@@Sandlund93 Most versions of the story, all the way back to the original Marvel adaptation, he was going to lose to Vader regardless on the Death Star. Other comment: You might be underselling how good Maul really is, even if Obi-Wan tends to beat him already. I could see Episode IV Obi-Wan > Yoda in III (though I wouldn't actually argue it), and for some reason I doubt Yoda has specifically gotten better with a lightsaber since then considering he no longer has one.
Yeah, Tenebrae is obviously the goat. He was so strong that he didn't even need a lightsaber. He would rekt anyone in a duel. Except a full potential Anakin.
Countless duelists have mastered all 7 forms. Atleast bring a valid argument. And he used force scream against the jedi stunning them for a moment, which is what allowed Sidious to swiftly kill them...not his lightsaber skills.
Maul was literally holding back on Ahsoka, and Vader was literally dominating the entire fight. Ahsoka only slashed his mask because he was focusing on Ezra
No way obi wan is at 15 he defeated general grevious, Darth maul as a padowan, Darth Vader 2 times and was promoted to jedi master within 5 or 6 years after he became a jeid knight
Let’s pretend Ahsoka totally didn’t beat Obi-Wan and Anakin in a duel on Mortis 2 verse 1 when she was corrupted by the son and also that she did not totally defeat Darth Maul
What about Obi wan? He had the most screentime in movies + clone wars + most feats yet people disrespect him because he lost to dooku or Darth Vader. Yes plo koon is underrated that's due to him not having as much screentime but Obi wan is disrespected at #15
Fitting that marr and Shan are next to eachother lmao. There’s definitely heat between em. Theron is screaming inside while marr is clapping them insides.
Agen Kolar should be on this list, yeas Ik the movies made him look fodder but this is Legends and Legends Kolar is above Legends Jinn, Fisto, Tiin etc in terms of just duelling. He was known for his duelling and made dark quinlan vos look like fodder.
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not based on who’s the most powerful only by skill with a lightsaber and don’t comment this person should be higher because every placement is debatable. Don’t get too triggered this is just my opinion + check out @force_user
there is nothing to be triggered but seriously luke? I would put mace on top and put kenobi in at least 7th
@@aametaydin3234you clearly dont know anything about star wars
not triggered but like vader was pretty slow in movement so unless u mean knightfall anakin idk
@@midgellthemidget How tf was Vader “slow in movement”? that mf was quick af
Plus being quick in movements doesn’t = skilled in dueling
@@sablexqz not very acrobatic like he cant jump over opponent and try strike them
Plo Koon who was literally the only one to defeat Yoda in a duel:🗿
Meanwhile that same yoda was unrivalled by any other jedi 🗿
Yoda going toe to toe with darth sidiuous: 🗿
lightsaber duel? or duel with using both lightsabers and force abilities?
@@s1lent_games619 we don’t know, it just said he beat yoda in a duel
Yeah in a non canon game🗿🗿🗿
Let's pretend that Obi-wan didn't defeat Vader twice
The force is strong with this one
He could’ve beat him a 3rd time if he wanted too but he needed to guide Luke through the force
Yes
Because he was the one executing the will of the force so the force boosted him every time
Vader was blinded by his Emotions towards Obi Wan
Plo koon was criminally slept on
Bro beat Yoda and got 24th
@@Average_enjoyer_of_hk ik he probably doesn't know that
@@Average_enjoyer_of_hkin the legends
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He’s not a force user so he doesn’t count but good point
@@kato9158 it says most skilled duelist not Most skilled Force user so technically as long as they can wield lightsabers or any weapon for that matter fits.
@@DreamerFromBeyondhe lost in a 1v1 to obi wan
@@MinuteManYT He was trained by Count Dooku one of the best Lightsaber duelist, He fought Five full-pledged Jedi and a Padawan single handedly without having force powers. two of those Are Jedi Masters; Shakti and Ki-adi Mundi. He may not be the best but he is probably somewhere on top 25.
@@MinuteManYTin the tv series of clonewars oby wan was defeated 1000 by grievous
Legends Grievous was a crazy good duelist, too bad he got nerfed.
I don't think Grievous was even really nerfed, I think he's just a jobber and his opponents get plot armor. Also a little bit of people underrating his opponents, and not taking into account things like say, his opponents already being tired at the battle of Hypori for instance. When Grievous needs to be formidable, he suddenly still is, and according to lore he's still cracked.
He liked to cheat like using magna guards and comandos then pulling a blaster if all else fails like the only jedi he fought one on one would be obi-wan
Bro did plo koon dirty.. literally the only duelist who defeated Yoda in a lightsaber dual 💀
Its legends, plus ki adi mundi better
@@exposedclickbaitaRblxPlo could stomp Ki-Adi, Mid diff
Actually he never did, it was only mentioned as a RUMOR in a non canon old wii game, and even if you would want to consider the game canon, it was only a rumor, not an actual fact…
@@wolf_876exactly
This urban legend must end. It is just a "rumor" in a game that was neither canon nor legends, which Anakin claimed to have heard
Finally, someone putting respect on Tulak horde.
Nah that's not respect Luke is ass compared to him😂
Ong , everyone keep disrespecting em 😭
@@espadose people keep acting like he ain't on par with Exar Kun and Revan. To call this man a master lightsaber duelist isn't doing his skills justice.
@Sunlight cosmos revan would beat him but tulak is top 3 duelists
Never heard of him
Anakin laughing in the corner 😂😂
He didn't have the rank of master 😂
@@edouardbinet7893 😅
@@edouardbinet7893 Didn't have the rank of master, ... but single-handedly massacred all the Jedi... Mic drop!
@@deckard5pegasus673windu is better
@@Note-DS *Slices Windu's Hand*
never let bro cook again
Real
Mace Windu getting up there, soon people will realise actually how good of a duelist he was
George Lucas also confirmed he beat Palpetine fairly, without the force. He beat the sith lord with just a light saber.
When Obi-Wan gains the high ground: RANK 1
That an old repititive and more importantly a cringe meme. It's just tells that anakin should have made that jump on mustafar.
Calm down, just a joke.
@@ishitatiwari6056Cringe
Actually it would be rank -1000
@@ishitatiwari6056в дурку
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Overrated
My brain left the chat by this comment
@@deathstarisop4791 doesn’t change the fact he’s overrated💀
Anakin is legless imao
@@Viaz_wthe said this because Darth Vader, is Anakin Skywalker, and whoever made this comment, somehow didn’t realize…
Obi Wan needs to be ranked higher. His Battle IQ is built different. He also bested the chosen one 2x
Obi Wan is overrated. His skill with a blade is indeed impressive and made him above average, but he's not legendary status, just above average. Thats why he got ragdolled by Dooku and why Anakin defeated dooku ez. (Yes, I get a part of it was that Dooku went easy on Ani, but that was only for little bit. He went all out on him mid battle and Dooku commented how Anakin was "the finest practitioner of Form V" hes ever seen.)
@@hamstey1603 still anakin lost to obi wan twice kiddo lol .
@@altair227 And Vader mopped the floor against the most powerful version of Kenobi...
@@hamstey1603 he didn't mop the floor he just killed an old has been obi wan who sacrificed himself deliberately so luke can escape.
@@altair227 I always got this quote on speed dial for y'all Kenobi stans because even if he did sacrifice himself for Luke's escape, he would have never been able to kill Vader:
"Your powers are weak, old man." Our lightsabers clash. I try to push forward, only to be thrust violently back. It's like striking iron. There's no give in Vader's arms, and far too much in mine.
...
"You should not have come back," Vader tells me.
My resources are depleted, my body screaming with pain. I have no hope of winning this fight.
He lunges at me; slash and counterslash, stab and riposte. The air is thick with plasma discharge, lights dancing on the edge of my vision.
I'm forced back, muscle burning, breath ragged. The grip of my lightsaber is slick in my hands, my ears ringing.
-- From A Certain Point Of View: Time Of Death
I like it that this guy mixes canon with legends and makes his own list
Thank you so much for adding Old Republic characters
My boy Obi soo underrated
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Nah he was way too high
More like overrated.
@@RheemQTHANK you…
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@@ClownAsleep grievous is not a force user and darth jar jar is not even a thing
@@tristenrainey1461based on skill with a lightsaber, not power, if you read the post
@@tristenrainey1461the Video isnt about the force, Just about lightsaber dueling, thats why I dont understand why Luke is number one. There are Others on the bottom on the list which are way more talented in dueling than him.
I'm very sure Jar Jar Binks being a sith lord is only a fan made theory, not cannon
Darth Malak is extremely underrated! He was described as the brawn to Revan’s brain!
That doesn't mean he was good...
Darth Malak (is my favourite Sith, personal preference) is a strong user but I would argue his duelling skills were not as good as his connection to the dark side (arguably stronger connection than Revan) and his abilities in the dark side accompanying his fighting skills made him a relatively formidable opponent, considering Revan is the only one who seemed to be able to take him on and win
@@Marlockie he was literally stated as being a better duelist that Revan…so if anything he should be 3 and Revan 4
He is really skilled tho
@@lou98tYet he literally lost to Revan in a duel.
What about Exar Kun?
Yeah he should be third below hord and luke
Obi wan: Hold my High Ground
We Need to start including Cal Kestis.
Canonically he's mestarted Single Bladed, double bladed, dual wielded and cross gaurded lightsabers. He's not someone to be taken lightly in lightsaber combat
As much as I agree. He's still very young and has way more to learn. But in terms of learning all those lightsaber forms... he'll earn his spot eventually.
Cal not a top duelist mans always 2v1 people. Power that's a different story
@@6aft3r23 As if his opponents don’t ever 2v1 him.
Seer is way more powerfull tho
@@Noa_persicoSeer?
Revans got enough skill with his tactical brain to get anyone and everyone f'd up.
Ну в топе его место я бы сказал выделено правильно
Главное особенность его стиля навыков это поймать противника на ошибке.
Все кто до него в списке в той или иной мере совершали оплошности во время дуэлей. Или делали расчет только на один навык(скорость или грубую силу)
Что касается Йоды и Люка. У них навыки фехтование были отточенны до идеального уровня.
По этому Ревану с ними сражаться будет тяжело, и скорее всего он проиграет им
Dooku was feared by darth plagueis before he turned to the darks side that he would become the next grandmaster because he was the best duelist in the Jedi order at the time. I think Dooku should be way higher up
In both Episode II and the book Dark Rendez-Vous, Dooku flew before Yoda in their duel because Yoda was too skillfull for him. He admitted it himself in dark rendez-vous. I personally think Mace is a better duelist than Dooku, and being grandmaster has nothing to do with the force and your dueslist rank.
He wasn’t scared he respected him.
@@QuantumParadisei would say he is fairly rated. But tbh when you get to the really high tier characters it could go either way often
Count Dooku is a much more skilled Duelist than anyone on this list.
There’s no way you did Qui Gon so dirty 😭
Qui Gon was definitely OP as fuck, man trained the high ground master. But he was old as hell, chances are he would be at least 15th in his younger days
But he wasn’t always old as hell, he had his prime. The same way we saw Obi Wan and Anakin in their prime. They put him way too low, like the dude found out about force ghosts!
@@sebisnotemo Yes, but 1. They didn't list him in his prime because we don't know how powerful he was in his prime and we only ever saw him at 60 and 2. Discovering force ghosts doesn't make you any better at dueling.
@@solitarything1209 True, but he was trained by Count Dooku, and we knew that he was one of the greatest duelists in the Jedi Order, if not the BEST. We did only see him at 60, but canonically, he was an incredible duelist in Form IV, Ataru, which includes and consists of many type of acrobatic movements of dueling, like Master Yoda! It’s possible he was still a Master in Form IV, just didn’t jump all over the place like Yoda after one sip of coffee, lmao. Either way, I am rather convinced that the prequel trilogy nerfed him down a bit, because of his old age. I will admit, when I mentioned the fact that Qui Gon Jinn discovered force ghosts, I was completely unaware on the relative relation to being a skilled duelist. In other words, I forgot the title. There are a lot of controversial rankings on this list, not just Qui Gon Jinn. However, he IS my favorite Jedi, and I felt he was wronged being put in last place. I truly believe that the creator of this video, judged Qui Gon Jinn based on what little we got to see in the movie.
@@sebisnotemodude got destroyed by maul settle down fanboy
Lots of ppl are disagreeing but this is skill wise, many force users implement force augmentation into their duels
Fax + finally someone showing respect to Dooku
Bravo! I’m glad you put tulak hord on there
But how isn’t he 1st? He never lost a duel in his life
@@deepfreeze9293that’s what I thought too! The one defense I know is that tulak never fought a Jedi before. He died before the Sith and Jedi war started. But even so, never lost a duel and fought and won wars. He definitely should’ve been first
@@deepfreeze9293 its because Luke is the most popular and usually the most popular get away with shit it kind of pisses me off
@@tonygonzales2696Tenebrae never lost a duel either. He was so strong that he didn't need a lightsaber. Tenebrae would actually toy with Tulak Hord. He would toy with anyone except full potential Anakin.
Anakin!!! Don't worry about this guy's ratings, you were the chosen one!!!!
Finally someone calls Darth Tyranus by his sith name instead of Count Dooku
Everyone talking about Plo koon but not Exar Kun who somehow didnt make the list
Indeed. There are also many Sith from the Old Sith Empire who would rekt someone like Vindican, for example. And everyone below him.
But Exar Kun is the most obvious pick, he would be Top 10 easy. Some even have him as the absolute goat.
To me, that is Tenebrae, as nobody was strong enough to duel him. He was literally defeated only because there were thousands upon thousands against him in the end.
Course i would switch some placement but this list is damn fine overall
Same here, plus you gotta admit even tbough it was only a short usage kao cen darach literally dual wields a dual bladed and single bladed saber while fighting one on two
Yes its only short and yes he switeches to justnusingnone blade and activating the second to defeat vindican but still, it was badass to watch
The lack of cin drallig is absolutely criminal, he was literally the best duelist in the whole ass order
@@Lopnawe only kinda tbh. He was by far the best teacher and the technically best. But his lack of force power really makes him hard to rank
@@fabiansproer378 I agree that his force power was lacking but it wasn't weak, he was able to block and then counter kfvs force push with one of his own and send him flying, cin was honestly a 6/10 force wise and a 10/10 saber wise
@@Lopnawe He did that in the video game. In the book he lost in 3 moves (which I'll just call a problem with the book because that kind of makes KFV too overpowered, and Cin Drallig is supposed to be the skill insert character for the stunt coordinator, and lore statements suggest he should be in the same tier as people like Yoda and Windu skillwise).
I don't like sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
Wich song is this? I love it (and your shorts 😁)
Just ignoring that Palpatine literally mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber combat
True
So did Yoda and Darth Vader and probably Plagueis
I don't see how mastering all forms of lightsaber combat makes you the best duelist ever? you could master one and still beat people who mastered more...
so did vader plagueis yoda and luke
And yet Mace Windu beat him without issue without even using the force.
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This did star killer dirty
Exactly he took on Vader then right after took on palps
@@DevinRice-lc9ou 1 year later is crazy
Grievous' personality is lightsabers, yet he isn't even on the list. XD
You did Plo Koon dirty
we have to remember that dooku has been killed in a lightsaber duel by a man who is not on the list
Vader reached a higher potential than his former self. And he is placed above Dooku on the list.
The list is still scuffed though, since the Force is part of every duel. Which means Tenebrae would be goated and then Sheev on 2nd. After that it would probably be Exar Kun on 3rd.
@@Sandlund93 If we're going off of the force being part of every duel, why are any of those above Luke?
Especially considering Sheev got his hand cut off in a duel with Luke in Dark Empire, failed to control his force storm, which Luke (with help from Leia and unborn Anakin) redirected? And Luke became way stronger after Dark Empire.
vader and anakin are the same person why would he make them separate
Windu was called the best swordsman in his era boecouse of his Vappad and here he is 10 .... so underrated character
Vappad is mostly effective against users of the Dark side.
There were other eras, not just Windu's. We are talking 25000 years of galactic history here, being number 10 is insane.
Obviously, Tenebrae and Exar Kun would push him down 2 pegs. And possibly someone like Freedon Nadd or Marka Ragnos too.
@@Sandlund93 Marka Ragnos (possessing someone else) loses to a 14 year old from Luke's academy. Granted, Jaden Korr is kind of cracked, I think people might be overselling ancient Sith sometimes for a number of reasons.
Luke is probably the most inexperienced lightsaber duelist (not wielder, duelist specifically) on this list lmao
Yeah but in legends he was so fast they thought he was using multiple light sabers so it's only fair to put him at #1
@@Jack-qe5qm Every one in Legends moves at that speed. Even in canon, when Anakin was watching Mace fight Sidious, he described it as a purple and red blur 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Star Wars in Legends compared to the live action movies it’s like anime lmao.
Luke inexperienced? Man...he's mastered 3 forms of lightsaber combat and Anakin has only mastered one, for example
@@EditsSWWhe mastered all of them. Then he invented new ones that he deemed were better
Anakin Skywalker not being on this list is criminal.
why have him on there twice? should we have dooku on there twice then as well?
Because Anakin pre-Vader was still intact and it's safe to assume his lightsaber skills was nerfed a lot rocking that heavy ass suit
@@sIowburn darth vader and anakin are different even though they re the same
@@marrymejisoo3413 yeah he slow as fuck he cant do fancy moves or get aggressive like before.
Yeah, old anakin was more op vader
Why is Exar kun not in this list, this man was soloing the jedi order with his own lightsaber skill alone
Finally Revan getting some recognition
Bro made Sidious weaker than Windu
Windu beat Sidious in RotS
Not weaker, simply less skilled with a lightsaber. Palps is still stronger in the force
@@niimitz8624 He didn't though. Sidious let him win to appear weak and helpless in front of Anakin. If Anakin hadn't stepped in Sidious wasn't gonna let himself be killed right there.
@@whitepaws60 nope Lucas comfirmed Windu beat Sidious in a fair fight.
@@sadettinata9207 only in a lightsaber fight
Meetra Surik is hella underrated.
By the way, where’s the Solo twins?
Ah yes revan one of my favourite characters in Star Wars
me too , Raven Best Jedi/Darth Story
"hero of tython" bro, no kidding. i was the best
lol
This is outrageous..its not fair !
I feel revan is to underrated for his actual power
Not really , most star wars fans have him in top 5 in most lists ranking power.
Revan is more like really overrated, bane underrated. This is already prooven by many ranking bane lower then revan in terms of strength, lightsaber and force mastery, even tough bane was by far superior to revan in all of these aspects.
Revan is more known for his affinity to the Force
Revan is overrated
@@dead3464 agreed
Starkiller is beating 75% of these ppl just off raw power
Starkiller Is Weaker Then Vader And Palpatine.
@@ДмитрийРубежов-э1бNo he’s not lol. He’s stronger than Vader, and has more potential than Palpatine:
@@slimmoses4129bro read tfu novelisation galen is weaker than palps and vader
@@PrinceDaemonTargaryen he is totally stronger than Vader but I'm not so sure about Palpatine
we are talking solely about lightsaber combat, not force powers.
I've seen the game, watched many playthroughs and cutscenes, his only major power is the force, that's how he wins fights, through his force powers, and while his lightsaber combat isn't bad it's also not amazing, if we take the force out of the equation Vader would probably defeat him in a duel.
Plo Koon deserves more respect he is the only one to defeat Yoda in a battle he has force lightning of yellow colour 💛
Why is Ahsoka not here??? She’s a very skilled duelist!
Top 100 also means very skilled. And she probably makes Top 100.
Darth Jar Jar laughs in the corner.
I know Mace beat Palpatine but I feel as though palpatine is overall a better duelist, mace was just more suited against him
I dont even know what this means. Mace beat him
Palps was way better and obviously threw the fight
@@Anglicanism_go_brr_JLY no not when George Lucas himself said he lost💀
@GammaBoy I mean... that's what happens when your entire fighting style is based on fighting against dark side/sith users. Look up what vaapad does for mace in a fight against dark side users
@@joycongod4831 feats and other things Lucas had said trump something else he said. Besides that is not guaranteed fact, archimedes can say something about a thing he invented that is flat out false
You can not put Plo Koon that early on in the list because he was the only Jedi EVER to beat Yoda in a sparing match and he was the only Jedi in the grand army of the republic to master let alone be able to use the skill of force judgment(force lightning for Jedi)
One fluke over 900 years means nothing. If anything, Plo Koon is the most overrated Jedi of all. He is just a simple Council member on 13k MC, nothing special.
I'm not even sure I would put him on Top 50. There are simply too many Sith who would rekt him. He would rekt Maul though. Easy. But Maul is the most overrated Sith ever.
If they ever redo the original trilogy they need to give Luke a massive lightsaber skill rework on showing it cause the stuff for animating back then didn’t allow for the stuff we got in prequels
Dont let bro cook again💀
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Where do you think anakin ranks? (Not Vader) probably before obiwan since he lost to him
Anakin imo is probably around no.12-10 depending if he’s knightfall vader or not, lightside Anakin might best Mace if he doesn’t tap into the darkside, if he did he would lose, I doubt he’d beat prime Palpatine though + He would’ve beaten Obi Wan if the duel lasted any longer, he just got arrogant and form III counters V
@@niimitz8624 really? I feel like obiwan always somehow wins, and even though anakin was arrogant, that still means he’s not as good of a duelist as obi as he can’t control his emotions
@@niimitz8624 knightfall vader > darth vader
vader isnt very agile/acrobatic
@@romanator649 Anakin beating Dooku is honestly more impressive than all of Kenobi’s prequels dueling feats imo.
@@AP0PT0SISDooku was far from prime by that point though.
I don’t think obi wan should be that low on the list. His Soresu is impenetrable
And yet he gets ragdolled by Dooku. I mean, your lightsaber skill doesn't mean much if you're unconscious.
Episode 4 Obi-Wan would fare better ofc, but a bunch of Sith would still beat him. At the very least Tenebrae, Sheev, Exar Kun and Revan. Most likely Vader too.
@@Sandlund93 in revenge of the Sith Dooku stated that he feared Obi Wan's skill w the blade that's why he used the force against him.
Obi Wan defeated Maul twice, fought Savage Oppress + Maul at the same time and managed to cut off a limb, defeated Grievous, defeated evil Anakin, defeated Vader.
Lol
@@khoanguyenduc2564 There is only one impressive feat among those, the duel on Mustafar. The other opponents are just practice for someone of Obi-Wan's calibre. And the Obi-Wan series is poor fan fiction.
I still can't see him defeat Yoda, Dooku or the other 5 mentioned. That puts him at 8th at best, which is still insane among Millions of Force sensitives across 25000 years.
@@Sandlund93 Most versions of the story, all the way back to the original Marvel adaptation, he was going to lose to Vader regardless on the Death Star.
Other comment: You might be underselling how good Maul really is, even if Obi-Wan tends to beat him already. I could see Episode IV Obi-Wan > Yoda in III (though I wouldn't actually argue it), and for some reason I doubt Yoda has specifically gotten better with a lightsaber since then considering he no longer has one.
Anakin: bro my son is up there what did you put me in the negative 2 spot
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Yeah, Tenebrae is obviously the goat. He was so strong that he didn't even need a lightsaber. He would rekt anyone in a duel. Except a full potential Anakin.
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Not even close
Obi wan cut 2 of grievous' hands off in 30 seconds...
@serpent5955 he means 2003 I thinkn
@@GamblingLeopard ohhh, but that grievous isnt canon and doesn't really count
@@Curlyheadedgar101in legends, he was more powerful than the 2003 version. And for the love of god, legends characters should be ranked.
Ain’t no way Darth Sidious is 11th place
Bro he knows every form of lightsaber combat and was able to easily beat every council member within seconds simultaneously. Except Windu
Countless duelists have mastered all 7 forms. Atleast bring a valid argument. And he used force scream against the jedi stunning them for a moment, which is what allowed Sidious to swiftly kill them...not his lightsaber skills.
@@SaintEthanbaronNusjuro alright, name 5 of these countless duelists
@@SyedHaiderJafri-vw7jo Vader, Yoda, Luke, Revan, Cin Drallig, Sora Bulq, Kas'im, Maul
@@SaintEthanbaronNusjuro We are talking canon here, not legends, am I correct?
Plo Koon defeated only Yoda, he was very underestimated
In a wii game rumor haha. Not in any reliable lore sorry
Luke entrance cold as f 😱
Bruh where he placed maul is criminal
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she never came close to besting vader, she was almost killed by him and would be if it wasnt for ezra
Bro said pummelled when Maul wasn’t even trying and disarmed her multiple times throughout the fight . God I hate Ashoka ass lickers
Maul was literally holding back on Ahsoka, and Vader was literally dominating the entire fight. Ahsoka only slashed his mask because he was focusing on Ezra
My top 3: 3: Darth Vader 2:Master Yoda 1: Count Dooku
Dooku is no way as strong as Luke 😂😂😂
@@raphaelantoine7331he’s a way better duelist then luke
@@raphaelantoine7331 not strength here…it’s fueling
@@raphaelantoine7331 *dueling
@@JackTheShadowMuncher not if you compare to legends Luke , not a chance
No way obi wan is at 15 he defeated general grevious, Darth maul as a padowan, Darth Vader 2 times and was promoted to jedi master within 5 or 6 years after he became a jeid knight
My favorite duelist and character of the all Star Wars is ANAKIN SKYWALKER. 😊❤
Never let bro cook again seriously
bro graduated from walmart
In my opinion I think maul should be way higher like he fought to well trained jedi at the same time for a good couple minutes(amazing edit)
Let’s pretend Ahsoka totally didn’t beat Obi-Wan and Anakin in a duel on Mortis 2 verse 1 when she was corrupted by the son and also that she did not totally defeat Darth Maul
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bruh he's there
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Anakin.
You might not regonize me at first but I assure you it’s still me I always come back
Idk why but I feel like Wolffe with his Jetpack could be 25, but realistically no
Luke skywalker fanboying is getting crazy
“Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the force itself.”
Tulak Hord as number two...I actually agree with that. Kreia did give him a lot of praise considering his dueling prowess.
Plo Koon is one of the most underrated characters in the Clone Wars time. Mad respect for him and how he treated his clones.
What about Obi wan? He had the most screentime in movies + clone wars + most feats yet people disrespect him because he lost to dooku or Darth Vader. Yes plo koon is underrated that's due to him not having as much screentime but Obi wan is disrespected at #15
@@OmniSphinx Agreed, but he still gets more attention than Plo Koon. He also never beat Yoda.
Amazing.
You put master Jedi ploo koon on 24? He defeated master yoda
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Fitting that marr and Shan are next to eachother lmao. There’s definitely heat between em. Theron is screaming inside while marr is clapping them insides.
Crazy to think this entire list combined would be utterly outmatched by prime Anakin 😂😂
Or Tenebrae.
Darth Maul at 22 is a crime against human
Yeah, he is more like 122.
Surik, who mastered all saber forms and was able to adapt to enemy fightning style right in combat - #23. So much for the top.
Reven should not be that high but otherwise facts
Exar Kun not even being in this list is fucking wild 💀 💀
Darth Malak Head Must feel crazy
Bro where’s anakin
bro pulled these numbers right outta his ass
Agen Kolar should be on this list, yeas Ik the movies made him look fodder but this is Legends and Legends Kolar is above Legends Jinn, Fisto, Tiin etc in terms of just duelling. He was known for his duelling and made dark quinlan vos look like fodder.
Padme: Anakin where are u
Anakin: i lost some respect