Close enough, considering the original is so FOOKING expensive. I missed out on getting one from eBay for just a couple of hundred dollars many moons ago. Should have upbid. Now, I'd go for the Behringer at the price. Great little machine. A solid tribute to the original. Roland should have done this themselves! You can't blame Behringer for just doing what everyone wanted YEARS ago. Roland missed a trick with their half arsed digital recreations. Nobody wanted that.
The pitching of the hats and snare must have been a deliberate decision by Behringer as they can be raised or lowered by changing a single resistor per voice. I suppose it's also possible that it was a manufacturing decision if the ideal values turned out to be non-standard and the closest stock value was chosen, but as someone else has pointed out, they always varied quite a bit from machine to machine - the capacitors used mostly had a tolerance of 30 - 50%, and leakage over the years can lead to a drop in pitch as well. I bought one new in a January sale back in 1985 (2 303s and a 606 for forty quid the lot - no one wanted them then in Norfolk!) and comparing this one with some recordings I made back then this 606 seems quite a bit lower. Personally I don't think it matters, they both sound good. The other thing of course is reliability. Having just spent nine months attempting to kickstart a customer's rotting 606 into life (and failing....) I'm sincerely hoping I never have to look inside another 606! Badly designed and made on the cheap with circuit boards that peel if you stare at them too hard, they're horrible to work on. The RD-6 comes with all the mods I'm asked to install for a lot less money than it costs to upgrade a 606..... ;~)
you could also say the tr606 here has a different pitch calibration to which i suspect Behringer had with their tr606... or collection of tr606's to referenced when making the rd-6.
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What about the sequencer groove on the RD-6? Patterns programmed on an original TR-606 never sound as groovy when you try to program the same patterns on other drum machines or VSTs.
,use the levels,here is where the Magic appears,the sound dont cut itselve they sound together un a unrivaled mode,here is where the Magic of the tr 606 appears!!
I own the TR-606 for one simple reason... it was pretty much the only piece of that 80s drum and bass roland history that I could afford. I never have been all that thrilled with the sounds. I will be skipping the RD-6 for now but who knows... it is definitely cool but just not a priority. Will definitely buy the RD-9 if I am not in a nursing home by the time it is released. 👍
Watch this video and you’ll understand. Even two original TR-606 drum machines compared to each other are vastly different in both the snares and high hats. ruclips.net/video/Wwdq0AeZDkY/видео.html
I used to have a 606 and i'm more happy with the Rd6 serious .Midi , sync and different sync rated even a Korg with 48 ppq can be synced from the Rd6 when you make a minijack to din 5 pin cable . Indu outputs and the dr110 clap extra .
Great video! The snare on the 606 is shorter and bit more "snappy", but with compression you can achieve that also on the RD6. For 150 bucks the RD6 is just amazing! I'm so hyped for the RD9!
yes, you can change the snare without any soldiering. You can take the cover off and adjust it once or you can take careful measurements and drill a tiny hole in the back cover. Then you can use a non-metallic screwdriver and adjust it anytime you want to do so. You can make it soft or punchy. Search up some of the videos on “modding the RD6”
It sounds good enought to me. I like the snare more on the RD6 than the 606, and the toms sounds somewhat better on the 606. As for the snares, they are tuned differently, but both sound fine. Never realized that you can sequence the clap AND the cymbale together, happy days. I read that currently the clap does not output midi data, should be something to be fixed in a firmware update. Probably somebody overlooked something while programming the stuff.
Sounds pretty bang on until you get to the cymbals. However as a TR-606 owner, I'm happy these hates aren't exactly the same. Its nice to have different pallets of sound.
The cymbals on the RD-6 are a semitone higher and slightly more tonal, but this very difference exists between two TR-606's too so it is fully expected. The biggest difference is surprisingly enough the low tom; on the Drumatix it pitches down slightly, giving it a more organic feel, which it doesn't do on the RD-6. Not sure I would pick out the differences if they weren't AxB'd like this, though. Thanks for the video!
Pete Horsham yeah, seems like they should always include the tried and true mods to the classic units on their reissues. There are some extra features on the pro-1 but everything else is pretty basic, except maybe adding usb, etc.
Haven't checked. The quick start mentions that you can adjust the midi out channel. Since just a simple Midi Start/Stop wouldn't be affected by that, i'm pretty sure it is for specifying the midi out channel for the sequencer notes.
@@umusic6 im kinda hoping it can, because if it does im getting one, it would be the highest number of steps per dollar on any drum sequencer on the market
Close enough for the girls I date. I was never in the market for a 606 clone, but my TD-3 could use a dance partner. It’s price makes it an easy impulse buy.
"Close enough for the girls they date." - Guess that was the final argument at behringer tr clone strategic meeting where they decided to leave out the quality
@@Imetalman2000 Pretty interesting how strange people react these days, are you some kind of behringer disciple? ...yes sure for that price maybe, but I dont like that cheap sound quality, if it would be better, they could also sell it for tripple price. But they cant recreate that original mojo and just wanna make money with selling lots of units, everybody knows. There are much better clones out there - same with other behringer gear like the 808 clone, just compare the sound to a raw808 clone, behringer sound is in general just not that organic and alive. If you ever owned some of these original machines or played with them for longer time, you should know what Im talking about. SO, please dont compensate your unbalanced knowledge / opinion ratio with aggressive comments, its just ridiculous, thanks and have a great day!
The only real downside of the RD-6 I can think of compared to the original is that it requires a power supply (unlike the original which can use batteries) which makes it less portable
Yes, operating on batteries would have been nice. You could use a 9v Powerpack. Maybe there is even enough space on the inside to do a battery department mod :)
The two 606's i use to own sounded diff than your 606. Especially the snare and cymbal. I bought the green transparant chemicalwaste version.. Always preferred the 606 over the 808. Hihats from the 6 are my favourite. I had one 606 fully modded. Would be cool if you can do something like that with the rd6.
You should compare two tr-606s to illustrate how parts tolerances affect each unit. Each tr-606 will sound about as different from each other as the rd-6 and the tr-606
@@xisotopex I bet the behringers do sound different from each other in terms of the range of the controls. One unit might have a sweet spot in the tone control that another wouldn’t hit. There are always inherent tolerances in the pots and I think behringer uses pots that commonly have 5% tolerance. Not every pot is tested before installing. That’s one way costs are kept to a minimum. All the resistors and capacitors also have between a 1-5% tolerance which results in slightly more or less high/low response per unit.
@@ireadysucks3026 I'm not sure what you're getting at. What point do people already understand? It's not hard to borrow a second unit to compare two similar models just to show that any two units of the same model run will sound about as different from each other as from the clone, and each cloned model will sound different from each other as well. Somehow I doubt everyone understands that judging by the popularity of comparison videos.
Great comparison. The Snare was the only thing I perhaps preferred on the Behringer … its hats were pretty bad, though, and that’s a big problem for a’a 606 clone’ … !! I think they did a much better job with their 303 clones …
I also have the 606 so I could get around to working with the RD6 despite the minimal explanation from it’s manual but I can’t seem to use the ‘clear’ button like on the 606. Is this a bug or did Behringer change this?
Drumbrutes have brilliant sequencers, mutes and solos etc. 64 step patterns as opposed to 16 and much more visual. Drumbrute has a couple of ok snares but none as snappy as the RD-6. Hi hats on the Drumbrute impact is great, nice and metallic. best sounds on the DBimpact. BD on drumbrute impact more like a 909 but not as good as RD-6 for me. Toms I don’t care about. Clap is good on the Rd-6. RD-6 has really good connectivity. Very different machines, both cheap, both have plus points. Get both if you can.
TR-606 sounds better than TR8S in that kit specifically, even with the ACB thing... but anyway TR8S is awesome, one of the best drum machines from these years, tons of fun
Very good, clear comparison. Mine is due Monday, and I've never owned an actual TR-606. There are some interesting differences in quality here. The drum sounds of the RD-6 seem ever so slightly higher pitched than on your 606. The differences between the cymbals and hats are more pronounced; they have a slightly more tonal quality on the RD-6. My theory is that the capacitors and resistors used in the TR-606 have higher tolerances and the variations of resistance and capacitance is important to the design of its cymbals/hats. That said, I understand that no TR-606 will sound quite alike either. For example, this video demonstrates two different units with huge variations in cymbals and hi-hats: ruclips.net/video/Wwdq0AeZDkY/видео.html The clap is a nice addition. The distortion also does a lot to liven up the sound!
Great comment, on point! Yeah definitely much better quality components in 606 - the behringer stuff has cheap sourced parts and its audible! So much great gear these days but the build quality has plummeted!
@@okidot behringer makes components for all sorts of other electronic manufacturers. I doubt its worse than what was available for roland in the 80s. Behringer get first pick off tje line.
@@pahwraith Some of the older vcf/osc circuits are unrivalled - different components made in different era. Older Roland/Korg gear sounds incredible to this day. Not to mention that nobody has come close to an OBX. If someone can’t tell the difference that’s fine by me, but it’s night and day to others.
I remember in 2007...08...10...many years for the actual clones to emerge. Why did it take businesses so long to realize what people wanted? And still a real 909 is 6k. That should be so easy to get 99%. Come on. No more digital 909 clones. Glad that got this one out. NOw someone do the real 909 again. I'd pay a grand if it was real good.
There are and have been some affordable analog alternatives around for long: Jomox, Nava 909, 9090 project, etc. But maybe not close enough ? Or maybe just Says Law 'production of a product creates demand' ? I thought i really need the TD-3 and RD-8, but hey, the 808 and 303 AWM2 sounds in my old Yamaha RS 7000 are actually sufficient for my needs if i need that flavor, and a lot more flexible concerning integration and tweak ability.
good comparison, i actually like the sound of both machines although i personally feel the RD-6 cymbal could have been tuned a little lower by behringer.
I wished they had given the RD-6 a bit more tweaking options, at least via trimmers to adjust to personal taste. It will be hard to mod due to the tiny SMD components.
This ‘difference between’ tr606s is way overstated. I have loads of naked 606 sample packs and they all have the same signature. The hats on the RD sound more like the tr808. Most of it is close enough , but the cym and HH are off , and this what I would buy it for , that and the snare.
I much prefer the hats on the RD-6 over those old TR-606 machines; my old TR-606 had a really harsh metallic open hat but the RD-6 has a nice airy set of hats. Also, the clap and individual outs are really nice touches.
great video I sure wish someone would make a new MC 202 or CR 78 I'm gonna be an old man by the time that finally happens, I'll never sell my 606 like I did with both my 303s. grrrr I miss 'em but love the Roland new 303
Analog Records - regarding the 202, there are a couple of decent 101 recreations which get the sound you're after. I had a 202 and the sequencer was truly horrendous to use - and I love sequencers!
@@leftmono1016 Thanks I have had several as well and I miss the kick drums you could make with it not to mention the incredible sounds.. may buy another (yes its a quirky sequencer I do agree)
In my opinion the hats/cymbals of the 606 sound better, but then again the RD6 is very inexpensive, newer, and comes in cool colors so for me it's a no-brainer, especially if you don't wanna mess around with dinsync.
Great setup. Doesn't need more than that. I still have to hook up the single outs and run it through comp/delay/reverb. etc. But being able to still control the volume is great news !
Aesthetically similar, but night and day particularly in regards to transients, high end and envelopes. 606 has more depth, punch and balance - unrivaled!
@@AB-dz4yb Ehhh no he didn't, I've heard a lot of demo's wher the 606 kick has no weight or punch to it. Actually, if you read into it, behringer with the RD6 took this into account and tweaked the sound to make it have more body like the 808
It's a shame Behringer can never get the toms sounding right, on the rd8 they sound like a joke. The hats on the 606 will always be unmatched, whatever Roland did is really hard to come close.
There is probably a subtle distortion circuit on the Roland 606 which makes it a bit louder grittier. I bet if you very slightly add a spec of the RD-6 distortion, it will sound much more like the raw 606.
About the Toms, there is more noise mixed in on the TR. The hi hats and cymbal are not tuned exactly the same. This is probably due to component degrading. There is no magic involved, it is just that the components used nowadays are not exactly the same as they were 40 years ago. Tolerances are tighter and there is less noise in the resistors and capacitors.
its crazy how different all the TR 606 sounds against one another. I belive that Behringer nailed it. This is what a brand new 606 would have sounded like
Maybe even brand new ones from back then already sounded different. I don't think RD-6es will sound much different to each other due to the fact that tolerances of parts are much more precise today ?
To be honest, my only complaint about the RD-6 is the volume comparison between the cymbal and clap. The cymbal is a lot louder and if you have them both playing at the same time, and want the clap to be loud, the cymbal is overpowering. But besides that, for such a ridiculous price it is a damn good little drum machine. Even if it doesn't sound 100% like the original.
@@ChromosomeSyndicate Hello there. The Cymbal and Clap use the same volume knob and output and when played together the clap is a lot lower than the cymbal. So if the volume is all the way up on that channel the cymbal completely overpowers the clap. I am sure it can be fixed with a modification but it shouldn't be necessary.
@@mbrombert two things you can do ;) 1 leveling all the drums around the clap volume 2 using a external mixer . I should go for the second option ;) using a drummachine only with a mono output give you not panning extra reverbs or fx on the voices .
@@ChromosomeSyndicate leveling all the drums around the clap does not work because as soon as you add cymbals, it will overpower the entire mix as the cymbal sound will be much louder than everything else.
eF Ka Erm, not from my experience. I had 3 x TB-303’s in the 90’s and even then they sounded different. Different cutoffs, envelope amounts and resonance. Never owned a 606 but I would bet that they all sound different now. There’s other demos of 606’s on RUclips and they sound different to this one, especially pitch. As someone else commented, 808’s are similar. I’ve heard 2 RD-8’s and even those sounded very slightly different. If someone really wants their RD-6 to sound like it’s old and detuned I would imagine someone will sort a mod, even on surface mount it’s not complicated.
what is the goal sounding like 40 Years ago.. can some one please explain=? To me it is absolut peak of stupid sound exploring. Get me new fresh and good sounding Sound.. oh jeah äh it sound good good point. But hell thru out the last 20 years a sampler can do better than that! Think about Roland Grooveboxes they had so much of those old sounds in it and it is heard thru out the 90s and mid 2000. Even Korg electribes got great sounding stuff with A LOT more features. These things are just cheap and retro. I do not understand the hype sorry.
I got the TD-3 and I love it. 303 sound is always totally relevant and this is legit for almost no money. Not bothered about the drum machines to be fair to your point.
Thank for the demo. I ordered the Yellow RD-6 to go with my Yellow TD-3. Now the wait begins....Thanks again!
Should I do the same... Dont have either yet... I used to have Roland 309 Raveolution once...
Close enough, considering the original is so FOOKING expensive. I missed out on getting one from eBay for just a couple of hundred dollars many moons ago. Should have upbid. Now, I'd go for the Behringer at the price. Great little machine. A solid tribute to the original. Roland should have done this themselves! You can't blame Behringer for just doing what everyone wanted YEARS ago. Roland missed a trick with their half arsed digital recreations. Nobody wanted that.
i like simple no nonsense comparisons like these
The pitching of the hats and snare must have been a deliberate decision by Behringer as they can be raised or lowered by changing a single resistor per voice. I suppose it's also possible that it was a manufacturing decision if the ideal values turned out to be non-standard and the closest stock value was chosen, but as someone else has pointed out, they always varied quite a bit from machine to machine - the capacitors used mostly had a tolerance of 30 - 50%, and leakage over the years can lead to a drop in pitch as well.
I bought one new in a January sale back in 1985 (2 303s and a 606 for forty quid the lot - no one wanted them then in Norfolk!) and comparing this one with some recordings I made back then this 606 seems quite a bit lower. Personally I don't think it matters, they both sound good.
The other thing of course is reliability. Having just spent nine months attempting to kickstart a customer's rotting 606 into life (and failing....) I'm sincerely hoping I never have to look inside another 606! Badly designed and made on the cheap with circuit boards that peel if you stare at them too hard, they're horrible to work on. The RD-6 comes with all the mods I'm asked to install for a lot less money than it costs to upgrade a 606..... ;~)
Thanks for the insight Dave. Going to buy the lime one in this video for about 120 euro delivered from Amazon Spain.
you could also say the tr606 here has a different pitch calibration to which i suspect Behringer had with their tr606... or collection of tr606's to referenced when making the rd-6.
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What about the sequencer groove on the RD-6? Patterns programmed on an original TR-606 never sound as groovy when you try to program the same patterns on other drum machines or VSTs.
@a F i b But the original 606 supposedly has it's own built-in groove. I guess the original 808 does too.
,use the levels,here is where the Magic appears,the sound dont cut itselve they sound together un a unrivaled mode,here is where the Magic of the tr 606 appears!!
Mine silver unit is coming on Monday, can’t wait!!!
I had the original 606 many years ago but never really liked it very much. I think the RD6 sounds cleaner. Just ordered one. Good video!
RD-6 sounds a tad brighter. It sounds great to me and for $179 it's a great deal! As long as the parts Behringer used don't wear out to quick.
It is a solid build
Pretty close - I wouldn't have thought it would have been that close.
Thanks for the demo!
I own the TR-606 for one simple reason... it was pretty much the only piece of that 80s drum and bass roland history that I could afford. I never have been all that thrilled with the sounds. I will be skipping the RD-6 for now but who knows... it is definitely cool but just not a priority. Will definitely buy the RD-9 if I am not in a nursing home by the time it is released. 👍
the 606 is all about the hats - they wanted to make a replica, why the hats sound so different???????
Watch this video and you’ll understand. Even two original TR-606 drum machines compared to each other are vastly different in both the snares and high hats. ruclips.net/video/Wwdq0AeZDkY/видео.html
this video just convinced me to grab one of the rd-6s!
Love mine
I used to have a 606 and i'm more happy with the Rd6 serious .Midi , sync and different sync rated even a Korg with 48 ppq can be synced from the Rd6 when you make a minijack to din 5 pin cable . Indu outputs and the dr110 clap extra .
Great video! The snare on the 606 is shorter and bit more "snappy", but with compression you can achieve that also on the RD6. For 150 bucks the RD6 is just amazing! I'm so hyped for the RD9!
Thx! Same for me.
Its $180 in US
Yes, there is one 'Noise Level' trimmer inside
@@zel0521 it’s 135 for some models on amazon
yes, you can change the snare without any soldiering. You can take the cover off and adjust it once or you can take careful measurements and drill a tiny hole in the back cover. Then you can use a non-metallic screwdriver and adjust it anytime you want to do so. You can make it soft or punchy. Search up some of the videos on “modding the RD6”
It sounds good enought to me. I like the snare more on the RD6 than the 606, and the toms sounds somewhat better on the 606. As for the snares, they are tuned differently, but both sound fine.
Never realized that you can sequence the clap AND the cymbale together, happy days. I read that currently the clap does not output midi data, should be something to be fixed in a firmware update. Probably somebody overlooked something while programming the stuff.
Been fixed
Rd6 sounds dope
The behringer sounds great..
The RD-6 and 606 are OK but I choose the TR-06 anyway!
Hell yeah! Me too.
Sounds pretty bang on until you get to the cymbals. However as a TR-606 owner, I'm happy these hates aren't exactly the same. Its nice to have different pallets of sound.
The cymbals on the RD-6 are a semitone higher and slightly more tonal, but this very difference exists between two TR-606's too so it is fully expected. The biggest difference is surprisingly enough the low tom; on the Drumatix it pitches down slightly, giving it a more organic feel, which it doesn't do on the RD-6. Not sure I would pick out the differences if they weren't AxB'd like this, though. Thanks for the video!
Or adjust the trimmers inside ;)
*** Of which there are none...
I think they should have given a bit of control on the Kick. I've got a Roland 606 and I just wish I could lengthen the kick, 808 style!
Bet there’s a well documented mod to do just that
@@verifiedpersonae7332 yeah exactly! Seems like Behringer should have added some control of the kick.
Pete Horsham yeah, seems like they should always include the tried and true mods to the classic units on their reissues. There are some extra features on the pro-1 but everything else is pretty basic, except maybe adding usb, etc.
Get a Volca Kick and sync it to the 606
Overall it sounds good on its own, specially with the clap, to me the RD6 sounds closer to the BOSS DR-110 , specially the hats.
Clap from the boss
Close enough for an equalizer to do the rest
Exactly !
do you know if the midi out can be used to turn this into a sequencer for another drum like a volca or whatever?
Haven't checked. The quick start mentions that you can adjust the midi out channel. Since just a simple Midi Start/Stop wouldn't be affected by that, i'm pretty sure it is for specifying the midi out channel for the sequencer notes.
@@umusic6 im kinda hoping it can, because if it does im getting one, it would be the highest number of steps per dollar on any drum sequencer on the market
I checked Midi Out, its working just like that. See more details here: www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14965995&postcount=784
@@umusic6 Thanks for this info, it certainly proves there is midi implementation on the RD-6 =P
@@umusic6 well that settles it then, its genuinely worth the money as a pure drum sequencer, regardless of the sound, which is decent anyway
Damn those videos! Now I wanna spend 500€ for original :)
No one will give your music anymore praise so I wouldnt bother.
Does anyone know yet if the RD-6 tom trigger outs actually drive Roland trigger ins yet cos the RD-8 trigger out never did. ?
Close enough for the girls I date. I was never in the market for a 606 clone, but my TD-3 could use a dance partner. It’s price makes it an easy impulse buy.
if you find a girl who says "that snare ain't a proper 606" you're onto a winner
"Close enough for the girls they date." - Guess that was the final argument at behringer tr clone strategic meeting where they decided to leave out the quality
@@mrg1775 the quality is good for the price. It’s always the dude with no content that like to talk the most trash.
@@Imetalman2000 Pretty interesting how strange people react these days, are you some kind of behringer disciple? ...yes sure for that price maybe, but I dont like that cheap sound quality, if it would be better, they could also sell it for tripple price. But they cant recreate that original mojo and just wanna make money with selling lots of units, everybody knows. There are much better clones out there - same with other behringer gear like the 808 clone, just compare the sound to a raw808 clone, behringer sound is in general just not that organic and alive. If you ever owned some of these original machines or played with them for longer time, you should know what Im talking about. SO, please dont compensate your unbalanced knowledge / opinion ratio with aggressive comments, its just ridiculous, thanks and have a great day!
The TR sounds more tight than the RD, but they’re close.
The only real downside of the RD-6 I can think of compared to the original is that it requires a power supply (unlike the original which can use batteries) which makes it less portable
Yes, operating on batteries would have been nice. You could use a 9v Powerpack. Maybe there is even enough space on the inside to do a battery department mod :)
pre-ordered a purple and a green one.
In some ways I prefer the cymbals over the OG, others not.
Exciting times 😁
Yeah I agree, the rd6 sounds pretty amazing
I gues there is a internal tune pot for the sounds its analogue you know
*** seriously??
There are sadly no trimmers in there other than one titled 'noise level'
umusic6 interesting
The two 606's i use to own sounded diff than your 606. Especially the snare and cymbal. I bought the green transparant chemicalwaste version.. Always preferred the 606 over the 808. Hihats from the 6 are my favourite. I had one 606 fully modded. Would be cool if you can do something like that with the rd6.
It will be hard to mod, since it is smallest SMD, but doable.
You should compare two tr-606s to illustrate how parts tolerances affect each unit. Each tr-606 will sound about as different from each other as the rd-6 and the tr-606
i would like to see (hear) that, also with the 808 909 303 etc. doubt the benringers sound different from each other but in 20 years they might.
@@xisotopex I bet the behringers do sound different from each other in terms of the range of the controls. One unit might have a sweet spot in the tone control that another wouldn’t hit. There are always inherent tolerances in the pots and I think behringer uses pots that commonly have 5% tolerance. Not every pot is tested before installing. That’s one way costs are kept to a minimum. All the resistors and capacitors also have between a 1-5% tolerance which results in slightly more or less high/low response per unit.
ah yes, spending another 1,000$ just to make a point that most people understand already.
@@ireadysucks3026 I'm not sure what you're getting at. What point do people already understand? It's not hard to borrow a second unit to compare two similar models just to show that any two units of the same model run will sound about as different from each other as from the clone, and each cloned model will sound different from each other as well. Somehow I doubt everyone understands that judging by the popularity of comparison videos.
Pitch is definitely higher across the board, on the RD-6. Trimmers on the inside to adjust pitch, would have been SICK.
I feel like the OG might have detuned over the years like the 808 cowbell did
Sounds awesome
The behringer kick sounds like it has more body! It’s a brand new 606 vs and old 606….simple conclusion.
Great comparison. The Snare was the only thing I perhaps preferred on the Behringer … its hats were pretty bad, though, and that’s a big problem for a’a 606 clone’ … !! I think they did a much better job with their 303 clones …
I also have the 606 so I could get around to working with the RD6 despite the minimal explanation from it’s manual but I can’t seem to use the ‘clear’ button like on the 606. Is this a bug or did Behringer change this?
You have to hold the pattern button first, then hit clear
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How would you compare Behringer RD-6 to e.g. Arturia DrumBrute (Impact/Creation/etc)?
Isn't the RD-6 more "specialized"??
Drumbrutes have brilliant sequencers, mutes and solos etc. 64 step patterns as opposed to 16 and much more visual. Drumbrute has a couple of ok snares but none as snappy as the RD-6. Hi hats on the Drumbrute impact is great, nice and metallic. best sounds on the DBimpact. BD on drumbrute impact more like a 909 but not as good as RD-6 for me. Toms I don’t care about. Clap is good on the Rd-6. RD-6 has really good connectivity. Very different machines, both cheap, both have plus points. Get both if you can.
The snare on the RD-6 seems to have slightly more sustain than the 606.
What's it like vs TR-8S?
TR-606 sounds better than TR8S in that kit specifically, even with the ACB thing... but anyway TR8S is awesome, one of the best drum machines from these years, tons of fun
Rd6 for the win 🏆
both your CY and HH on the tr-606 sound lower than my two tr-606s
Very good, clear comparison. Mine is due Monday, and I've never owned an actual TR-606. There are some interesting differences in quality here. The drum sounds of the RD-6 seem ever so slightly higher pitched than on your 606. The differences between the cymbals and hats are more pronounced; they have a slightly more tonal quality on the RD-6. My theory is that the capacitors and resistors used in the TR-606 have higher tolerances and the variations of resistance and capacitance is important to the design of its cymbals/hats.
That said, I understand that no TR-606 will sound quite alike either. For example, this video demonstrates two different units with huge variations in cymbals and hi-hats: ruclips.net/video/Wwdq0AeZDkY/видео.html
The clap is a nice addition. The distortion also does a lot to liven up the sound!
Thanks for the link very interesting!
Great comment, on point! Yeah definitely much better quality components in 606 - the behringer stuff has cheap sourced parts and its audible! So much great gear these days but the build quality has plummeted!
@@okidot behringer makes components for all sorts of other electronic manufacturers.
I doubt its worse than what was available for roland in the 80s.
Behringer get first pick off tje line.
@@pahwraith Some of the older vcf/osc circuits are unrivalled - different components made in different era. Older Roland/Korg gear sounds incredible to this day. Not to mention that nobody has come close to an OBX.
If someone can’t tell the difference that’s fine by me, but it’s night and day to others.
Nice, they sound the same to on my laptop speakers...you could even have switched the audio track around and no one would notice the difference...
wow the hats are much more metallic on the original, love that, but the behringer is closer than the cyclone (that costs three times as much)
apart from what i suspect is some wonky pitch calibration on the old roland tr606, the rd6 is pretty much spot on.
I remember in 2007...08...10...many years for the actual clones to emerge. Why did it take businesses so long to realize what people wanted? And still a real 909 is 6k. That should be so easy to get 99%. Come on. No more digital 909 clones. Glad that got this one out. NOw someone do the real 909 again. I'd pay a grand if it was real good.
There are and have been some affordable analog alternatives around for long: Jomox, Nava 909, 9090 project, etc. But maybe not close enough ? Or maybe just Says Law 'production of a product creates demand' ? I thought i really need the TD-3 and RD-8, but hey, the 808 and 303 AWM2 sounds in my old Yamaha RS 7000 are actually sufficient for my needs if i need that flavor, and a lot more flexible concerning integration and tweak ability.
Possibly the cost and speed of the pick and place machines at the time.
The Roland has more snap on the snare and toms and more realism on the hats. Behringer kick was a tiny bit deeper tho
I like the tr606 it sounds flatter, in a good way
Like how a Bb sounds compared to a C, and in Behringer’s case, an ugly C#
good comparison, i actually like the sound of both machines although i personally feel the RD-6 cymbal could have been tuned a little lower by behringer.
I wished they had given the RD-6 a bit more tweaking options, at least via trimmers to adjust to personal taste. It will be hard to mod due to the tiny SMD components.
@@umusic6 yes, indeed.
I would have happly paid 40€ more for double the knobs and patch points ;)
This ‘difference between’ tr606s is way overstated. I have loads of naked 606 sample packs and they all have the same signature. The hats on the RD sound more like the tr808. Most of it is close enough , but the cym and HH are off , and this what I would buy it for , that and the snare.
hats are more like volca
I much prefer the hats on the RD-6 over those old TR-606 machines; my old TR-606 had a really harsh metallic open hat but the RD-6 has a nice airy set of hats. Also, the clap and individual outs are really nice touches.
Lol😂
Not EXACTLY the same BUT no two TR-606’s sound the same either. It’s like the comparing two 303’s. Sound good overall to me.
indeed but its obviously that the RD's got that volca china cheapness in the sound hah
mr g silly comment. Most Drum machines including all of Rolands, Korgs etc are made in China now.
@@RecMirage is that sarcasm or indeed a strange case of bad knowlegde?
mr g do you seriously thing Behringer is the only one making gear in China?
mr g and yes, Roland and Korg have stuff made in China.
Subjective sounds 606 hihats better for me.
great video I sure wish someone would make a new MC 202 or CR 78 I'm gonna be an old man by the time that finally happens, I'll never sell my 606 like I did with both my 303s. grrrr I miss 'em but love the Roland new 303
Analog Records - regarding the 202, there are a couple of decent 101 recreations which get the sound you're after. I had a 202 and the sequencer was truly horrendous to use - and I love sequencers!
@@leftmono1016 Thanks I have had several as well and I miss the kick drums you could make with it not to mention the incredible sounds.. may buy another (yes its a quirky sequencer I do agree)
In my opinion the hats/cymbals of the 606 sound better, but then again the RD6 is very inexpensive, newer, and comes in cool colors so for me it's a no-brainer, especially if you don't wanna mess around with dinsync.
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Kinda sad behringer didnt release a rd6 mo with your typical 606 mods. Would have been a banger. Of course you can always mod yourself, but im lazy 😔
sounds different to me....
Hi Olli ! Different but not bad at all. Probably also because of aged components of my original.
Great setup. Doesn't need more than that. I still have to hook up the single outs and run it through comp/delay/reverb. etc. But being able to still control the volume is great news !
Have two poly 800's and they are different . Tune the inside trimmers and they sound the same or is it because it's a Behringer ?
Aesthetically similar, but night and day particularly in regards to transients, high end and envelopes. 606 has more depth, punch and balance - unrivaled!
Clearly!!!ahaha :)
@@Jota.Barrakero this is no laughing matter!
Might be me but the Behringer seems to have a bit more bass to it
Did you listen with a sub? You've got it backwards mate
@@AB-dz4yb Ehhh no he didn't, I've heard a lot of demo's wher the 606 kick has no weight or punch to it. Actually, if you read into it, behringer with the RD6 took this into account and tweaked the sound to make it have more body like the 808
The only thing That I do care, that is not digital 💪
the TD hi hats really trigger my tinnitus
It's a shame Behringer can never get the toms sounding right, on the rd8 they sound like a joke. The hats on the 606 will always be unmatched, whatever Roland did is really hard to come close.
There is probably a subtle distortion circuit on the Roland 606 which makes it a bit louder grittier.
I bet if you very slightly add a spec of the RD-6 distortion, it will sound much more like the raw 606.
That's exactly what i found out also. Something is overdriven somehow.
About the Toms, there is more noise mixed in on the TR.
The hi hats and cymbal are not tuned exactly the same. This is probably due to component degrading.
There is no magic involved, it is just that the components used nowadays are not exactly the same as they were 40 years ago. Tolerances are tighter and there is less noise in the resistors and capacitors.
Sounds like the RD6 is pitched about a step above the TR-606
This is common with old 606's
its crazy how different all the TR 606 sounds against one another. I belive that Behringer nailed it. This is what a brand new 606 would have sounded like
Maybe even brand new ones from back then already sounded different. I don't think RD-6es will sound much different to each other due to the fact that tolerances of parts are much more precise today ?
It will be interesting to see if the circuit aging affects the sound in the RD6
To be honest, my only complaint about the RD-6 is the volume comparison between the cymbal and clap. The cymbal is a lot louder and if you have them both playing at the same time, and want the clap to be loud, the cymbal is overpowering. But besides that, for such a ridiculous price it is a damn good little drum machine. Even if it doesn't sound 100% like the original.
You have volume knobs and seperate outputs what is the problem .
@@ChromosomeSyndicate Hello there. The Cymbal and Clap use the same volume knob and output and when played together the clap is a lot lower than the cymbal. So if the volume is all the way up on that channel the cymbal completely overpowers the clap. I am sure it can be fixed with a modification but it shouldn't be necessary.
@@mbrombert two things you can do ;) 1 leveling all the drums around the clap volume 2 using a external mixer . I should go for the second option ;) using a drummachine only with a mono output give you not panning extra reverbs or fx on the voices .
@@ChromosomeSyndicate leveling all the drums around the clap does not work because as soon as you add cymbals, it will overpower the entire mix as the cymbal sound will be much louder than everything else.
rd-6 is cleaner and 606 seems deeper but dirtyer
The resonance hurts my ears on the Behringer hats
I think only the Snare sounds better on the RD-6
pretty damn close for £150 .🙌👍
Disappointing a clone should be a clone not Half A Clone!
At least not a clone of MY TR-606. I can't speak for others. Have no clue how similar a bunch of 40 yo 606es are to each other.
eF Ka Erm, not from my experience. I had 3 x TB-303’s in the 90’s and even then they sounded different. Different cutoffs, envelope amounts and resonance. Never owned a 606 but I would bet that they all sound different now. There’s other demos of 606’s on RUclips and they sound different to this one, especially pitch. As someone else commented, 808’s are similar. I’ve heard 2 RD-8’s and even those sounded very slightly different. If someone really wants their RD-6 to sound like it’s old and detuned I would imagine someone will sort a mod, even on surface mount it’s not complicated.
The clap that should have been on the RD8 finds its way onto the 606 clone, where it has no business whatsoever. Go figure.
I'll take it - just the same. ;)
Sometimes more is more.
They are absolutely not close at all. They sound too much different. I prefer the Roland.
Wow that's actually a huge difference
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what is the goal sounding like 40 Years ago.. can some one please explain=? To me it is absolut peak of stupid sound exploring. Get me new fresh and good sounding Sound.. oh jeah äh it sound good good point. But hell thru out the last 20 years a sampler can do better than that! Think about Roland Grooveboxes they had so much of those old sounds in it and it is heard thru out the 90s and mid 2000. Even Korg electribes got great sounding stuff with A LOT more features. These things are just cheap and retro. I do not understand the hype sorry.
I got the TD-3 and I love it. 303 sound is always totally relevant and this is legit for almost no money. Not bothered about the drum machines to be fair to your point.
A hardware 606 is pointless, very good samples about you would not tell apart
nothing can beat the sequencer in them.
In which regard ? It's pretty limited i think. My RS7000 sequencer is much more flexible.
a volca drum is more interesting than both of these...
So is the Drum Brute. This is pretty bare bones / meh but I guess $179 for someone's first drum machine is nice. Definitely unnecessary for my rig.
Very different... RD-6 is very Pitchy, sounds on Key D too much, I guess it's gonna be a problem.
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