She was very polite and respectful to the so called President. Imagine if she preached like John the Baptist! "You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good?" (Seems like that should be in all caps...dont you imagine John being a loud preacher?)
More children and women got raped and killed and trafficked coming across the border to get here thx to the radical left leaders who went there and encouraged them to come over for what future dem voters? I am not a super conservative Christian I agree with mostly what’s on this channel but more of a universalist 🙏
@@michaelcanterbury7400 it's seemed both in the way she said it and what she said.... Jesus was meek and mild but not near as meek and mild as this bishop.
I wanted to share a story with you. Some years ago, I was dating a woman who was Catholic. I am an atheist, but I attended mass with her a few times and found it interesting. I later took her to a Sunday service at my childhood Episcopal church, so she could see what I had grown up with. The priest gave a sermon about how Jesus made himself very unpopular by criticizing those in power. She was talking about Matthew 23, and Luke 11:37, I believe. According to these gospels, Jesus had been invited to a meal with the Pharisees, and rather than fawn over them, he laid into them (far more harshly than this bishop to Trump, I'll add). I remember sitting in my pew, listening to this sermon, and thinking "Wow, that's really admirable. We'd be better off if more people took that example to heart." From my non-believer perspective, this Bishop could really be said to be Christ-like.
I think a lot of Christians think Atheists oppose everything Jesus supposedly stood for. We don't. We agree with the humanitarian aspects,we just don't buy the supernatural stuff. But what really grinds my gears is the people like Trump who claim the Christian title, but have none of the Christian behaviors.
Absolutely. I weep as I read of Trumps lack of care for people. May God have mercy, and may we Christians not be taken in by his narcissistic rhetoric.
Thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking but we don't dare bring it up at Church because we would be shunned by the leadership for the very thought of saying something about Trump...........even my own Pastor had nothing to do with me after pointing this out...........crickets. You said this so beautifully. Thank you and I am now a subscriber.
She was so right,🙏I was so happy to hear her, Christian is loving everyone,we are not the judge❤️she was preaching what is in the scriptures God will bless her🙏
Many marginalized members of society refrain from identifying as Christians or attending church because they feel unwelcome. This sense of exclusion is exacerbated by the rhetoric of figures like Donald Trump, which deepens feelings of fear and despair. Yet, Jesus himself proclaimed, “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” The Good News is meant to be a message of hope and inclusion, and no one should ever feel turned away from it.
Donald Trump named Scott Bessent for United States secretary of the treasury the highest-ranking LGBTQ official in U.S. history and was donor,fundraiser and economic adviser for the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign. And openly gay .
I saw a video of a mom weeping because she had to ration cheese cubes for her kids' lunches. Does her vulnerability not count because of her white privilege and citizen privilege?
Firstly, I would like to say I'm not all that bothered about american politics, apart from that I'd rather Trump didn’t impose tariffs on Britain, and Musk wouldn't interfere with British politcs. But mostly I don't really have a dog in this fight. But I will say I didn’t like this sermon very much. A few reasons why: -This was a sermon which would be seen by many people. It's the perfect opportunity to present the gospel message to as many people as possible. While moral stuff like mercy and working together is important, this feels like a massive wasted opportunity. -Preaching politics from the pulpit will put people off from christianity for those who take the opposite political view. I'm not saying that the bible doesn’t have party political implications, I am saying the preaching publicly about it is unwise, and the bigger the venue, the more unwise it is. -The comment about LBGT issues were tremedously misplaced. While it is of course important to be merciful to LGBT people as much as mercy is important to everyone; *in this venue* it will be taken as an endorsement to perform sinful acts (especially in the way the media will clip it). These kind of comments need strong caveats at the best of times, and it was definitely inappropriate for this setting.
She didn’t preach politics she preached mercy to the stranger which is the Gospel. It’s sad people are equating that with politics. As Christ is to us we should be merciful to the marginal, the stranger, and those not like us. That’s not politics that’s basic teaching of Jesus. She said no more than that.
@@Tiredhike Come on, it's pretty obvious her "final plea" was intended to be partisan stabs at the Trump administration. You can preach mercy to the stranger without focusing on party political talking points. But also, it's not the Gospel. Mercy to the stranger is important of course. But the Gospel is that God the Word came down to earth as Jesus to die for our sins. He died on a cross and rose from the dead on the third day. That's the Gospel. That's what she had the opportunity to say to millions of people, but passed up on that opportunity. Mercy to the stranger is important, but it's not as important as that.
@@Tiredhike Yes, we were the stranger and God showed us mercy. That is a good way of framing the gospel. But that's not what she did. Talking about how God showed mercy to us is part of the gospel. Talking about how we should show mercy is not (while important). She did the latter, not the former. If she did the former I would be much happier.
Okay, but you can't expect us not to notice that there is a 100% overlap between the people she is concerned about and who are scared and oppressed, and people that the Democrat party favors as their voting clients. What are the chances that the people that a political party appeal to as their base, and the people she recognizes as vulnerable and in need of consideration are completely the same? If someone pointed out to her that there are many Americans who feel alienated in their communities, are watching their social cohesion disappear, are seeing their wages suppressed, seeing drug use and crime and violence increasing well, scared of the direction society is going...those aren't people who are scared and vulnerable they are just people having a hard time adjusting to changing times. So what this actually looks like is what I think it really is: a bald, partisan, political stunt unbecoming a Christian leader which sullied the authority of the office of president for what is likely personal aggrandizement.
What a ridiculous comment. First of all undocumented workers do not vote in elections, so your overall claim is just a lie. Secondly, it isn't her who's putting a target on those people's backs -- that would be Trump and his vengeful zeal to go scorched earth on this very specific subset of the disadvantaged in American society. None of the draconian policies she is talking about will do anything but cause more division, more fear, and do nothing to address crime and violence. They are stunts intended to placate the radical right wing base of the MAGA Republican party, of which you seem to be a contented member. Do you really believe Trump will do anything to help with the rampant drug epidemic in rural America? He's already broken his promises to cut food prices and bring the price of gas down below $2 -- which his Saudi buddies will not allow him to do anyway. You don't want cohesion and understanding, you want all liberals to be brought under Trump's heel and subjugated out of existence. Did you join in that salute with to Elon?
@MybridWonderful someone would only disagree with you if they smoke crack? Leftists are often like whitewashed tombs outwardly appearing to be moral paragons but inwardly closed minded fundamentalists. I would take a moment and consider that people can disagree with you for good reasons, even if you think they are wrong. If that sounds crazy to you, then I would recommend you get out more and expose yourself to people you would normally avoid so you can get a sense for how they live and think. Or go on thinking that everyone who isn't just like you is mentally deficient or evil, I'm sure that will work out well for you.
@paradisecityX0 Based on your comment, God is making mistakes all the time. People are born with all kinds of problems....Downs Syndrome, Hermaphrodite, brain damage... And God causes more abortions than all abortion doctors combined! For that's what a miscarriage or still birth is : a divine abortion. And how about God's mistakes like natural disasters? And have you studied Gnosticism? What you describe doesn't seem to match any of the corpus I've read. Granted, there's a lot of different groups that get thrown under the same umbrella of "gnosticism." So it's hard to put down an exact list of what they believed.... especially since they didn't call themselves gnostic.
The Trump Bible editors should remove all the unbiblical references to mercy and compassion.
Please don't give them any ideas. They'll start with that, and end up with "Blessed are the billionaires".
@ Haha, true!
@@juliachildress2943Also that part about gaining the world but losing your soul. Christian nationalists have clearly decided that’s an amazing bargain
Just wait until heaven becomes a tiered subscription service
It would be like like Thomas Jefferson's custom Bible, but with the morality taken out, instead of the miracles.
She was very polite and respectful to the so called President.
Imagine if she preached like John the Baptist!
"You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good?"
(Seems like that should be in all caps...dont you imagine John being a loud preacher?)
Like they claim their problem is that women can’t be bishops. Put me in a robe then, and I will be a whole lot less nice.
Only in the way she said it
More children and women got raped and killed and trafficked coming across the border to get here thx to the radical left leaders who went there and encouraged them to come over for what future dem voters? I am not a super conservative Christian I agree with mostly what’s on this channel but more of a universalist 🙏
@@michaelcanterbury7400 it's seemed both in the way she said it and what she said....
Jesus was meek and mild but not near as meek and mild as this bishop.
I wanted to share a story with you. Some years ago, I was dating a woman who was Catholic. I am an atheist, but I attended mass with her a few times and found it interesting. I later took her to a Sunday service at my childhood Episcopal church, so she could see what I had grown up with.
The priest gave a sermon about how Jesus made himself very unpopular by criticizing those in power. She was talking about Matthew 23, and Luke 11:37, I believe. According to these gospels, Jesus had been invited to a meal with the Pharisees, and rather than fawn over them, he laid into them (far more harshly than this bishop to Trump, I'll add).
I remember sitting in my pew, listening to this sermon, and thinking "Wow, that's really admirable. We'd be better off if more people took that example to heart."
From my non-believer perspective, this Bishop could really be said to be Christ-like.
I think a lot of Christians think Atheists oppose everything Jesus supposedly stood for. We don't. We agree with the humanitarian aspects,we just don't buy the supernatural stuff.
But what really grinds my gears is the people like Trump who claim the Christian title, but have none of the Christian behaviors.
Absolutely. I weep as I read of Trumps lack of care for people. May God have mercy, and may we Christians not be taken in by his narcissistic rhetoric.
Can you do a video on divine hiddenness?
Thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking but we don't dare bring it up at Church because we would be shunned by the leadership for the very thought of saying something about Trump...........even my own Pastor had nothing to do with me after pointing this out...........crickets. You said this so beautifully. Thank you and I am now a subscriber.
She was so right,🙏I was so happy to hear her, Christian is loving everyone,we are not the judge❤️she was preaching what is in the scriptures God will bless her🙏
Your books Progressive Christians & Doubters Creed arrived at my house today. Just wish I hadn't had to buy them on Amazon.
I made an exception for Randall's books too.
Many marginalized members of society refrain from identifying as Christians or attending church because they feel unwelcome. This sense of exclusion is exacerbated by the rhetoric of figures like Donald Trump, which deepens feelings of fear and despair. Yet, Jesus himself proclaimed, “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” The Good News is meant to be a message of hope and inclusion, and no one should ever feel turned away from it.
Trump calling someone nasty and ungracious is like...Trump calling someone a liar and a crook.
My grandmother (of blessed memory) would identify Mr. Trump's calling anyone nasty and ungracious " the pot calling the kettle black."
@@deefisher1797 Yes, exactly.
Good stuff Randal!
Thank you so much. I just shared this on Facebook.
Donald Trump named Scott Bessent for United States secretary of the treasury the highest-ranking LGBTQ official in U.S. history and was donor,fundraiser and economic adviser for the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign. And openly gay .
Its like all these so called christians never read any of the stories of the prophets Samuel or Nathan
I saw a video of a mom weeping because she had to ration cheese cubes for her kids' lunches. Does her vulnerability not count because of her white privilege and citizen privilege?
Firstly, I would like to say I'm not all that bothered about american politics, apart from that I'd rather Trump didn’t impose tariffs on Britain, and Musk wouldn't interfere with British politcs. But mostly I don't really have a dog in this fight.
But I will say I didn’t like this sermon very much. A few reasons why:
-This was a sermon which would be seen by many people. It's the perfect opportunity to present the gospel message to as many people as possible. While moral stuff like mercy and working together is important, this feels like a massive wasted opportunity.
-Preaching politics from the pulpit will put people off from christianity for those who take the opposite political view. I'm not saying that the bible doesn’t have party political implications, I am saying the preaching publicly about it is unwise, and the bigger the venue, the more unwise it is.
-The comment about LBGT issues were tremedously misplaced. While it is of course important to be merciful to LGBT people as much as mercy is important to everyone; *in this venue* it will be taken as an endorsement to perform sinful acts (especially in the way the media will clip it). These kind of comments need strong caveats at the best of times, and it was definitely inappropriate for this setting.
She didn’t preach politics she preached mercy to the stranger which is the Gospel. It’s sad people are equating that with politics. As Christ is to us we should be merciful to the marginal, the stranger, and those not like us. That’s not politics that’s basic teaching of Jesus. She said no more than that.
@@Tiredhike
Come on, it's pretty obvious her "final plea" was intended to be partisan stabs at the Trump administration.
You can preach mercy to the stranger without focusing on party political talking points.
But also, it's not the Gospel. Mercy to the stranger is important of course.
But the Gospel is that God the Word came down to earth as Jesus to die for our sins. He died on a cross and rose from the dead on the third day.
That's the Gospel. That's what she had the opportunity to say to millions of people, but passed up on that opportunity.
Mercy to the stranger is important, but it's not as important as that.
@@IamGrimalkin We were the stranger and God showed us mercy. You have an impoverished view of the scope of Gospel.
@@Tiredhike
Yes, we were the stranger and God showed us mercy.
That is a good way of framing the gospel.
But that's not what she did.
Talking about how God showed mercy to us is part of the gospel.
Talking about how we should show mercy is not (while important).
She did the latter, not the former. If she did the former I would be much happier.
Too bad she says NOTHING about the massacre in Gaza. Where’s her humanity in that? Hypocrites!
Okay, but you can't expect us not to notice that there is a 100% overlap between the people she is concerned about and who are scared and oppressed, and people that the Democrat party favors as their voting clients. What are the chances that the people that a political party appeal to as their base, and the people she recognizes as vulnerable and in need of consideration are completely the same?
If someone pointed out to her that there are many Americans who feel alienated in their communities, are watching their social cohesion disappear, are seeing their wages suppressed, seeing drug use and crime and violence increasing well, scared of the direction society is going...those aren't people who are scared and vulnerable they are just people having a hard time adjusting to changing times.
So what this actually looks like is what I think it really is: a bald, partisan, political stunt unbecoming a Christian leader which sullied the authority of the office of president for what is likely personal aggrandizement.
Uhh, let's see here, checks notes, you are wrong with " people that the Democrat party favors as their voting clients". Lay off the crack pipe.
What a ridiculous comment. First of all undocumented workers do not vote in elections, so your overall claim is just a lie.
Secondly, it isn't her who's putting a target on those people's backs -- that would be Trump and his vengeful zeal to go scorched earth on this very specific subset of the disadvantaged in American society. None of the draconian policies she is talking about will do anything but cause more division, more fear, and do nothing to address crime and violence. They are stunts intended to placate the radical right wing base of the MAGA Republican party, of which you seem to be a contented member. Do you really believe Trump will do anything to help with the rampant drug epidemic in rural America? He's already broken his promises to cut food prices and bring the price of gas down below $2 -- which his Saudi buddies will not allow him to do anyway.
You don't want cohesion and understanding, you want all liberals to be brought under Trump's heel and subjugated out of existence. Did you join in that salute with to Elon?
@MybridWonderful someone would only disagree with you if they smoke crack? Leftists are often like whitewashed tombs outwardly appearing to be moral paragons but inwardly closed minded fundamentalists. I would take a moment and consider that people can disagree with you for good reasons, even if you think they are wrong. If that sounds crazy to you, then I would recommend you get out more and expose yourself to people you would normally avoid so you can get a sense for how they live and think. Or go on thinking that everyone who isn't just like you is mentally deficient or evil, I'm sure that will work out well for you.
I can see clearly that you think more about your Dear Leader than the teachings of Jesus.
I thought Democrats wanted to increase the minimum wage. Wouldn't that benefit those disenfranchised Americans?
A heretic bishop publically lecturing the Anti-Christ. That was quite a performance
"For he that is not against us is for us” Jesus
He uses them instead
No, she is a legit Bishop of the Episcopal Church. So not heretical.
A "bishop" who thinks God made mistakes by putting people in the wrong body, is not biblical. That's Gnosticism
@paradisecityX0 Based on your comment, God is making mistakes all the time.
People are born with all kinds of problems....Downs Syndrome, Hermaphrodite, brain damage...
And God causes more abortions than all abortion doctors combined! For that's what a miscarriage or still birth is : a divine abortion.
And how about God's mistakes like natural disasters?
And have you studied Gnosticism?
What you describe doesn't seem to match any of the corpus I've read.
Granted, there's a lot of different groups that get thrown under the same umbrella of "gnosticism." So it's hard to put down an exact list of what they believed.... especially since they didn't call themselves gnostic.