The Complete History of the SS Charlemagne Division (French SS)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • When everything came to an end in Berlin in 1945 most people imagine the typical crowd defending Hitler's bunker to the last. The reality is however that most of these men were actually French. What on earth were these Frenchmen doing here? What is the SS-Charlemagne? Why did Frenchmen choose to fight for Germany? Why fight a doomed cause? What happened to them? This is the full story of the Charlemagne Division.
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    Sources:
    Tony Le Tissier - SS Charlemagne: The 33rd Waffen-Grenadier Division of the SS
    Robert Forbes - For Europe
    Henri Fenet's accounts

Комментарии • 667

  • @ZoomerHistorian
    @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +212

    Couple things!
    1) Yes there will be mispronunciations, I am an Englishman covering both French and German history here and we aren't known for our foreign language ability, my apologies.
    2) The author I used as a source was using the English equivalent of SS ranks and I didn't even catch on until later on. So some are in German and are SS ranks, other are British. Annoying, I know, will keep my eyes peeled in future! Every book I've used covering the SS before had used the SS ranks so I didn't even think about it.

    • @TheWaller
      @TheWaller 11 месяцев назад +18

      I can find it in my heart to forgive this massive mistake..

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 11 месяцев назад +8

      It's alright their ranks aren't really all that different once you learn the purpose of each one.

    • @clarencelafuentes4801
      @clarencelafuentes4801 11 месяцев назад

      The waffen units were correct.
      The globalist, bilderberg, economic forum are the problems that came about as no one ended their mentors/teachers.
      See major Jordan's diaries by federal expression.

    • @jeffkujawa803
      @jeffkujawa803 11 месяцев назад

      Well I have to give you credit for being …what I call an honest man…“your an honest man “… thanks -it’s a good story too… I wonder who of these SS men were definitely or somewhat (unfortunately, in a war involving so many countries that utterly burden their armies with the responsibility that they must encompass these vast logistical land areas and the hard to imagine numbers that represent the human beings involved …just ponder, for a moment the considerable proportions that encompass only the one country of Russia …… I’m not sure this question could even be seriously considered or asked?) “worthy” or to try to put it like this “of the same mention” or maybe one could say “by the same token” but ultimately to consider it with the same phrase I used when I referred to you?….”an honest man”? ….sometimes it might come down to a few factors that could change your mind about pointing out the truth in matters or things : 1) depending on where you are ? 2)depending on who your with? 3) when your there? 4)and not who you are ? 5)and not why you are etc.? ….it’s not an easy thing to be an honest man sometimes ?… well …it’s certainly an interesting thought to consider and even more…ask oneself?

    • @Sundays566
      @Sundays566 10 месяцев назад

      I will be informing the RUclips authorities of your stolen history footage from, unlike yours, very reputable history channels.
      You believe in Q and the false US electing lies as well, don't you.
      Even hearing your voice creeps us out, dripping with righteous hatred.
      You need 6 months in the standing cells in Auschwitz or condemned to death on the Bodger Swing or even better thrown in block 10 in the starvation room....

  • @chaussurefrancaise2693
    @chaussurefrancaise2693 6 месяцев назад +130

    I'm french and this video is an absolute gem. Serious subject treated like a professional.
    You would never find this topic discussed on the french youtube, in the french MSM at large or even among published historians.
    I just discovered your youtube channel, thank you for your work.

    • @markportadown
      @markportadown 6 месяцев назад +1

      How do French people view these men?

    • @chaussurefrancaise2693
      @chaussurefrancaise2693 5 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@markportadown Funnily enough, we tend to undermine the importance of the phenomenon due to the "Resistancialism myth".
      The gaullists and the communists who took over after the Liberation started to create a narrative in which all the french people (or at least 98% of us) resisted against the german occupant.
      So the fact that some Frenchmen willingly joined the Schutzstaffel to fight bolshevism, and that it's not about 50 lost souls but thousands of them, is...hard to blend in this narrative.
      We also tend to represent the SS Charlemagne more as a belgian thing, especially through Léon Degrelle.
      But yeah, the collaborationists were and still are seen as traitors. De Gaulle let the communist resistance do a purge (executions, beatings, humiliations) when he took over in 1944 to allow a "national reconciliation" afterward.

    • @Dorian131
      @Dorian131 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@chaussurefrancaise2693 et toi, t'en pense quoi des collabos?

    • @Luftwaffengel
      @Luftwaffengel 4 месяца назад

      @@Dorian131 Et toi?

    • @Dorian131
      @Dorian131 4 месяца назад +7

      @@Luftwaffengel je n'aimes pas que les nzi étaient contre d'autres européens comme les polonais, mais je trouve que la France d'autre fois avait de meilleures valeurs qu'aujourd'hui, Travail, famille patrie, les français étaient chez eux même si que la partie de Vichy alors qu'aujourd'hui l'Europe est dirigée par des juifs, anti européens, pro islamisation et la France privilégie les non français, mais pour répondre simplement je ne supporte pas tous ce qu'ils ont fait, mais en voyant l'Europe d'aujoud'hui je serai collabo

  • @V4nillakid
    @V4nillakid 9 месяцев назад +66

    The French get a lot of shit about being wimps, but they are historically vicious fighters.

    • @PorkChopAChunky
      @PorkChopAChunky Месяц назад +5

      Historically true. They're not the same people anymore.

    • @ScipioVision
      @ScipioVision Месяц назад +1

      Hitler said they’re the second best soldiers in Europe.

    • @PorkChopAChunky
      @PorkChopAChunky Месяц назад +2

      @ScipioVision Doubtful considering they folded almost immediately when he attacked. If they were so good they wouldn't need the legion. Frances premiere fighting force, that they couldn't seem to find in France.

    • @paulcheng7111
      @paulcheng7111 9 дней назад +1

      @@ScipioVisionWhere, I don’t see that??

  • @sddsds768
    @sddsds768 10 месяцев назад +169

    Leclerc executed those men because he got mad as one of them owned him well!
    Leclerc asked the French SS men: "why are you wearing a foreign uniform?"
    And one the SS man just replied to him: "And you my general, why are you wearing a foreign uniform?" as indeed Leclerc and his men were wearing american uniforms.

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +5

      the french are americas oldest ally while the germans have their worst enemies since 1870

    • @simonpierre8283
      @simonpierre8283 5 месяцев назад

      @AlphonseSwedgenso just Antisemtism. America were allies of france. Germany enemies

    • @nicholasferreira3263
      @nicholasferreira3263 4 месяца назад

      @AlphonseSwedgen The opinion of an SS man is worthless now and then. Bayonet fodder.

    • @MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE
      @MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE 3 месяца назад +12

      Well I mean we're they wrong, if you showed any of them France today they'd say Europe lost

    • @danked6731
      @danked6731 12 дней назад +4

      @@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIEexactly

  • @danrich92
    @danrich92 10 месяцев назад +282

    Genuinely and pleasantly shocked at someone actually telling the truth about this topic/era. Nice work.

    • @wolloms
      @wolloms 9 месяцев назад

      It's about time, the demonization propaganda of NS Germany has been so engrained into the Wester Psyche that so many people, even historians completely ignore events or straight up lie about them. But with current events and how they over played their hand the conditioning is starting to break and content like this will be essential especially for those who already have an interest in history. We are living in a very interesting age boys. Tribe and Train, the future is ours.

    • @scrivs1976
      @scrivs1976 9 месяцев назад +4

      Well put!

    • @angry_Australia
      @angry_Australia 8 месяцев назад +9

      Makes you appreciate how hard they fought. While they were doing this I was playing video games.

    • @MaxRoth-mc6nb
      @MaxRoth-mc6nb 7 месяцев назад +3

      Excellent documentation 🎉🎉🎉

    • @globeparasite9381
      @globeparasite9381 7 месяцев назад +3

      You'll find the same neutrality on the Wikipedia page. The unit never stood long enough to commit war crimes regularly.
      Though they did slaughter 113 Jews in Krusyna. And took part in anti partisans operation in Belarus so...
      Though mention of that are H A R D to find

  • @peterkogler9502
    @peterkogler9502 6 месяцев назад +52

    It was a surprising revelation to me to discover that almost every country in Europe had volunteers fighting alongside the Germans against the Soviet Union. In fact, the memoires of foreign SS soldiers became a favorite literary genre of mine for a time. Quite a different picture from the one I received growing up! Thank you for being honest and fair. It's time to set aside war time propaganda and have a more mature and ultimately useful perspective. Your time has come.

    • @qwertyasdfgh1014
      @qwertyasdfgh1014 6 месяцев назад

      Serbs didnt...

    • @samulikarjalainen6107
      @samulikarjalainen6107 3 месяца назад +1

      That doesn't mean that there were no critique. Ukrainians based on statements of many of our SS-men were largely seen as brothers. It was naive for them to think that someone like Himmler would be sidelined for Rosenberg's ideas regarding Ukraine. They don't seem to have any negative feelings towards Steiner. They seem to have blamed Hitler and Himmler for the failed policy in Ukraine. This is why I support them now as much as I can. I don't want to repeat mistakes of the world wars.

    • @Randomuser-ei7is
      @Randomuser-ei7is Месяц назад

      Fighting the soviet people, disgusting.

    • @paulcheng7111
      @paulcheng7111 9 дней назад +1

      We have the Ukrainians, estonians, mongolia, even china, and more.

    • @quthamibnabdul-lat1884
      @quthamibnabdul-lat1884 Час назад

      ​​@@paulcheng7111
      Even in here Indonesia, Javanese was forming NS party due some of them seen germany first hand how effective many of the policy was.
      I add a bit of oversimplified history of indonesia here:
      This party quickly dismissed, ridiculed, ostracized and squashed by sukarno, hatta (both are 1st president & vice president of Indonesian) and his "revolutionary" friend (i know sound too commie but many of them were including sukarno also majority of them was member of frmasn).
      Because many of them who ostracized this movement know if any party that glorified/proud their culture before islamizations of south east asia, wanted to go back to it (just like Germany with HRE & Italy with Roman Empire) it would be harder to control or propagandized. But the same group that is sukarno, hatta and all the 'revolutionary' welcoming japan and even become face figure to promote romusha (japanese forced labour/servitude) due "in the near future japanese promise would give Indonesian a fully independent nation", many of them ended up dying. Because, again, just like any heavy physical labor sanctioned by the dutch, the payment from japan govt was also got pocketted/corrupted by local official (most of them were coming from Surakarta/Jogja Royal family) and a lot of them died in foreign land such as burma and malaysia.
      After the independence of Indonesia sukarno, hatta & co start purging historical books like one of the most important one was Serat Darmogandul (historical record how islam conquer javanese & its neighbor ethnic and entering dark age from 1450 AD).
      After the Dumbs & bootlickers speak louder than Intellectuals sukarno began more into his debauchery, not giving any fck to commoner and start stealing someone's wife (there's total of 11 women he already married). His diplomacy only spouted non sense if you know what really happened in both wars, getting too close with CCP, his own goverment are bunch of corrupt and often filled with r-word people until in 65's we have 650% inflations, some of us eat bulgur(grain for horse fed), wear rice bag due couldn't afford shirt or die of starvations. He ousted because he wanted to usurp the army and install the communist revolutionary as armed forces just like china.
      But it failed, he died of Overdose viagra that caused his organs not working properly, his medication also coming from dog medicine.
      Because of him indonesian now full of people who blind towards their history, thats why you can see many terrorist coming from inddonesia. If only the NS party in Dutch Colonial was unstoppable back then we would not have gone thru all of this.

  • @Charlesputnam-bn9zy
    @Charlesputnam-bn9zy 10 месяцев назад +130

    Georges Blond in his 1952 "L' Agonie De L' Allemagne - The Death Of Hitler's Germany"
    mentioned the French SS contingent in the last battles.
    He further remarked that the non-German SS fought to the very bitter end,
    even when the Germans quit already, because as desperados & renegades in their own
    countries, they would have nowhere to go.

    • @bus8537
      @bus8537 4 месяца назад +6

      In fact, they were able, after the war to sign for the foreign legion and during the Indochine war, some solders were from ex SS

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 4 месяца назад

      "the non-German SS fought to the very bitter end,
      even when the Germans quit already"
      The Germans fought till the bitter end. Not saying some foreign SS troops didn't but to claim the German SS didn't fight till the bitter end straight up false and disrespectful.

    • @johnaguilera585
      @johnaguilera585 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bus8537I’ve read the book devils guard

  • @Somerandomnamex
    @Somerandomnamex 9 месяцев назад +107

    I can only imagine the months of research it must have taken to make a video of this quality on a topic as obscure as this. Your near complete lack of bias really shows and is greatly appreciated. Keep up the great work!

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  9 месяцев назад +24

      That means the world mate, thank you so much for the big donation!

  • @Bahamut998
    @Bahamut998 11 месяцев назад +224

    The illegal execution of a large group of French surrendered SS by French Free Forces under Leclerc, was one of the sad major stains on the Free French military campaign of WW2. I looked up the details in French not seen on English internet (I am French), and really it was General Leclerc's fault. Leclerc was a French nobleman who held medieval views of class hierarchy and despised most enlisted level (low rank) men he saw like peasants unworthy of life. So when a French SS answered his taunt, he got incredibly angry and had them all shot. The end is absolutely heartbreaking, as French troops shot their own SS countrymen, many of whom died yelling "VIVE LA FRANCE". Some of the French troops shooting the French SS were in tears, and some even died in alcoholism or suicide later because they never got over the event. Keep in mind they shot mostly 18-20 year old French patriot kids by a bullet in the head into ditches. The local German population then kindly buried what they considered "heroes who helped us" and put flowers all over the tombs. Even until after the war, the German population cared for the site of the execution.

    • @sddsds768
      @sddsds768 10 месяцев назад +81

      Leclerc executed those men because he got mad as one of them owned him well!
      Leclerc asked the French SS men: "why are you wearing a foreign uniform?"
      And one the SS man (1 lieutenant) just replied to him: "And you my general, why are you wearing a foreign uniform?" as indeed Leclerc and his men were wearing american uniforms.

    • @Not.Me7363
      @Not.Me7363 10 месяцев назад +2

      Since you are French may I ask a question. I have read multiple books about the "Hundred-Year War" period. Since I am an English speaker (Both My Parents spoke French but I grew up in New England and was lazy so I do not) all the books I read are from the English perspective. I would love to read about the period from French historians, I mean after all the war was more than Crecy, Poitiers, and Agincourt. One would not know from reading only the English POV. Can you give me a list of French Authors on the subject?

    • @jamietighe4784
      @jamietighe4784 10 месяцев назад +26

      Indeed , LeClerk remarked "aren't you ashamed to wear a foreign uniform as a self proclaimed patriot " , (now LeClerk was wearing an American uniform, he clearly hadn't thought this comment through) when the officer commanding this group of young Charlemagne volunteers, replied in rebuke "Are you sir , not ashamed to be wearing such a uniform, as a self proclaimed Patriot and General of France , and you know the tragic outcome from this ironic exchange, probably meant in humour ☮️❤️

    • @robertmaune8557
      @robertmaune8557 10 месяцев назад +7

      Leclerc was also ex-Action Francais. His attitudes would have been very close to the Catholic contingent of the French Charlemagne men.

    • @tictac2therevenge291
      @tictac2therevenge291 10 месяцев назад

      S'ils aimaient tellement la France ils auraient peut être dû se battre pour elle et non pour les boches.
      Leclerc a été trop indulgent, lis un peu comment les SS traitaient leurs prisonniers avant de l'ouvrir

  • @jungothemal7201
    @jungothemal7201 11 месяцев назад +49

    "French attacking siberians at -40c during a snowstorm" what could possibly go wrong! Lmfao

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +3

      💀

    • @alexanderivkin7086
      @alexanderivkin7086 3 месяца назад +2

      These minus 40 degrees is a lie. It was minus 20, maximum minus 30 in front of Moscow back then. Just super normal russian winter. Minus 40 in Moscow was is the winter 42/43.

  • @Grabacr47
    @Grabacr47 9 месяцев назад +35

    One only needs to know Communism to understand how even fighting for Hitler would be preferred...

  • @emmamagers
    @emmamagers 11 месяцев назад +53

    I’m enjoying hearing a different prospect on WWII. Food for thought. Thanks

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +12

      No problem mate, cheers

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 11 месяцев назад +10

      Plenty more truth where that came from. Do the research. You may be surprised at what you find. Remember that the victors write the history and decide the narrative.

    • @alexmeigs4846
      @alexmeigs4846 10 месяцев назад

      @@ruthmoreau6419we all know what you mean by that 🤓 sick fucking world we live in now.

  • @justingiannace3577
    @justingiannace3577 11 месяцев назад +61

    I'm so glad you used the Henri Fenet clip. Ending on that one was very moving. A very nice touch.

  • @JWSitterley
    @JWSitterley 10 месяцев назад +69

    Spain, Vichy France, Italy, Germany, Austria, Croatia, Romania and Finland… Fighting Communism since 1870.

    • @theycallmeanton
      @theycallmeanton 8 месяцев назад +9

      10 000 swedish volunteers were fighting along side their finnish brothers. And atleast a few hundred swedes were in combat in volunteer SS Wiking battalion that saw heavy combat on the eastern front.

    • @rikomagicmk3842
      @rikomagicmk3842 6 месяцев назад

      @@theycallmeantonYep, and today Sweden is being swarmed with muslim invaders. What would they have thought about it back then in 1940s.

    • @maxgremer7638
      @maxgremer7638 5 месяцев назад +10

      Later then also Hungary and Bulgaria and Slovakia and Croatia and within the Waffen s s divisions actually Europeans from all over the continent

    • @NobleBoss
      @NobleBoss 5 месяцев назад +13

      As was Russia itself ironically (they had a whole civil war over it). They're were also Russians in the German army of WW2 (mainly Romanov monarchists/white army veterans) who wanted to fight against the Bolsheviks/Communists.

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 месяца назад

      And capitalism*

  • @pagarb
    @pagarb 10 месяцев назад +31

    Some of the best units in the Foreign Legion fighting in l'ndochine were "Germans" and eastern Europeans who 'couldn't go home after WW2.. were some of them from the same Charlemagne Division?...

    • @tonyhawk94
      @tonyhawk94 10 месяцев назад +11

      Some indeed joined the French Foreign Legion, some went into exile, some counceled African dictators,...

    • @user-jw6gf4eb2g
      @user-jw6gf4eb2g 9 месяцев назад +2

      of course

    • @bouchacourtthierry8506
      @bouchacourtthierry8506 4 месяца назад

      Absolutly !

    • @quthamibnabdul-lat1884
      @quthamibnabdul-lat1884 Час назад

      ​@@tonyhawk94
      This is exactly what i've read in youtube comment on a French Foreign Legion. Many german was to depressed of what happened, some just don't to go home and few just wanted to die as a fighter (until today many of new men join because they didn't have any reason to live/heartbreak) or few just love to go war.
      Many knowledge about training and warfare from SS/Wehrmacht still retained until today. Many american vets also become their brother in arms.

  • @user-rk5ne7ux5y
    @user-rk5ne7ux5y 9 месяцев назад +16

    What a superb narration. The story, history itself Is far more than compelling. This is one of the best channels that goes really deep into certain subjects that are told more in passing in other videos except for the ones considered more relevant. But these stories are harrowing and insane how must it have been for everyone involved. Real soldiers shooting each other with a life being extinguished in a second. I must say being killed by a sword must've been horrific suffering and then very hard to even be imagined but knowing a single bullet may instantly send you where we all will go one day and not even see it coming in many cases it's just not only physical but mental torture. Gives me the chills. Great channel really enjoyable

  • @bruhism173
    @bruhism173 11 месяцев назад +36

    Im butchering this but bear with this quote, A Frenchman with the US army asked a frenchman with the German army why He was wearing a german uniform, the man responded, "why are you wearing an american one?"

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +12

      Yeah I only saw that afterwards sadly or I’d have included it

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 11 месяцев назад +34

      The Frenchman that you refer to was a General Philippe Leclerc (Hauteclocque). This incident took place in May, 1945 in Bavaria. When Leclerc pompously asked a captured group of SS Charlemagne fighters why they were wearing German uniforms, one boldly asked him why he was wearing an American one. This comment so enraged Leclerc that he ordered the twelve captives executed. The bodies lay where they fell for some weeks before they were buried. No kosher kangaroo Nuremberg show trial for Leclerc.

    • @user-uy8wx4pk4h
      @user-uy8wx4pk4h 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ruthmoreau6419 "No kosher kangaroo Nuremberg show trial for Leclerc."
      One day. If it can happen to Cromwell's corpse, then it can happen to Churchill, FDR, and Leclerc.

  • @TheBritishAngle2
    @TheBritishAngle2 11 месяцев назад +94

    Zoomer Historian! The next David Irving!

    • @TZZV-Z
      @TZZV-Z 11 месяцев назад +17

      Hopefully wont deny a certain event soon 👽

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +32

      Doesn't quite have the same ring to it

    • @justadildeau
      @justadildeau 11 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@ZoomerHistoriankeep on keeping on just as you are. I have zero criticism of your delivery. Simply the best I've seen on this platform so far.

    • @paulgaskins7713
      @paulgaskins7713 11 месяцев назад

      David Irving is a crackpot. This kid is a good historian.

    • @zexen6296
      @zexen6296 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@TZZV-Zstill a controversial event

  • @larryspiller6633
    @larryspiller6633 11 месяцев назад +13

    It sucks terribly that historical work has to have a disclaimer. In fact, it's a crock of sh&t.

  • @adam-byrne
    @adam-byrne 11 месяцев назад +111

    Recently discovered your channel and it is fantastic. Keep up the important work.

  • @PalmBeachPeloponnesean
    @PalmBeachPeloponnesean 11 месяцев назад +38

    Great vid, I'd recomment trying to explore the Balkans in WW2, collaboration governments in Croatia, Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria, and Greece could be interesting

    • @thomaswatson1739
      @thomaswatson1739 11 месяцев назад +4

      I agree we need this so bad

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +6

      Rather far outside of my area of expertise and I wouldn't know where to begin. Any books you'd recommend?

    • @mq7447
      @mq7447 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ZoomerHistorianI don’t know any books but I think Croatia can be good, apparently the waffen SS were disgusted of ante pavelic’s government because of brutality

    • @dariovukojevic926
      @dariovukojevic926 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@mq7447Yeah, it's all lies. If you believe any of those ridiculous horror stories you've beem cheated. It's post war atrocity propaganda.

  • @MinistryofMen
    @MinistryofMen 10 месяцев назад +16

    Your documentaries are pure information, no waffle or drama, just information.

  • @bellissimo999
    @bellissimo999 11 месяцев назад +27

    I love hearing about the various European legions will watch when i catch up

  • @Bazaboi88
    @Bazaboi88 11 месяцев назад +41

    Do one on the Kaminski brigade or the “Russland” division. That would be interesting

    • @asullivan4047
      @asullivan4047 11 месяцев назад +16

      Unfortunately many brave soldiers will never be given the recognition for their valor.

    • @jamietighe4784
      @jamietighe4784 10 месяцев назад +2

      That one there is a bit of a sore topic ,
      There's absolutely no apologizing for some units . You just named the two most infamous, the SS shot Kaminski themselves and gave Dirlwanger the knight's cross . That's pretty damming commentary.☮️❤️

    • @backtoshellac6459
      @backtoshellac6459 10 месяцев назад

      Some of modern history's biggest Uncle Toms, next to the Frenchies in this video lol. And don't even get me started on the 14th SS.

    • @tomskonieczka2385
      @tomskonieczka2385 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@asullivan4047 if. you think Kaminski or Dirlewanger were brave, you must be a very specific kind of sadist

  • @maestroenwebear
    @maestroenwebear 11 месяцев назад +47

    Great video! Hope you cover up about the Spanish blue division some day.

  • @andreas2610
    @andreas2610 10 месяцев назад +13

    2:44 omg the dog

    • @shawnv123
      @shawnv123 6 месяцев назад +4

      it’s wearing a pickelhauble

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@shawnv123lol

  • @areyoutheregoditsmedave
    @areyoutheregoditsmedave 11 месяцев назад +84

    would love to hear in depth all of the peace offer AH made to adversaries before and during the war. the few times you’ve mentioned it in videos has piqued my curiosity.

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +49

      It's on the list, will cover when it comes up chronologically in the Hitler series, probably as it's own video

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 11 месяцев назад

      All this information is out there. Turn off Talmudvision and do some research.

    • @MinistryofMen
      @MinistryofMen 9 месяцев назад +3

      I'd also like to know which of those he would have honoured.

    • @donlopezdeaguirre4048
      @donlopezdeaguirre4048 9 месяцев назад +1

      Es waren unzählige Friedensangebote seitens des Deutschen Reiches. Unzählige. Diese wurden bespuckt und in den Müll geworfen. Ein unfassbares Kriegsverbrechen der Alliierten! Einfach unfassbar.!!!

    • @notapuma
      @notapuma 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@MinistryofMenHe would've honored any offer he made. The goal was the destruction of Communism, not the destruction of Western Europe.

  • @50TNCSA
    @50TNCSA 10 месяцев назад +14

    you deserve more subscribers man

  • @dramaticequation6321
    @dramaticequation6321 11 месяцев назад +16

    Thumbs up. This one is very well done.

  • @mario_1683
    @mario_1683 11 месяцев назад +14

    Very well and detailed video! I learned much from it, thanks for the great videos.

  • @TheWaller
    @TheWaller 11 месяцев назад +33

    Oh boy. I have been looking forward to this!

  • @grimdesaye6534
    @grimdesaye6534 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for giving these men The Honor of True History ,Good Sir. God Bless you and have a Happy New Year 🎉

  • @Abyyss33
    @Abyyss33 11 месяцев назад +55

    I suggest Europa the Last Battle for some more historical context on a great many things WW II.

    • @backtoshellac6459
      @backtoshellac6459 10 месяцев назад +4

      That'd be like watching Enemy At The Gates for a report on Stalingrad...total dullard move.

    • @tripwire8457
      @tripwire8457 10 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@backtoshellac6459 Why is that? We have been fed a lot of lies and misinformation over the years.

    • @mayachico9766
      @mayachico9766 3 месяца назад +2

      I also recommend Europa the last battle....

    • @pdworld2418
      @pdworld2418 3 месяца назад +3

      @@backtoshellac6459room temperature IQ type talk

    • @scottydees2748
      @scottydees2748 2 месяца назад

      And maybe read when the flagpoles bloomed as well.

  • @aapoahola9725
    @aapoahola9725 11 месяцев назад +11

    Great one again!

  • @Invaders757
    @Invaders757 11 месяцев назад +7

    Fantastic work man, you deserve way more views

  • @daveweiss5647
    @daveweiss5647 9 месяцев назад +6

    Your videos truely are a treasure. A rare brilliant gem of thorough informative objective historical documentaries in a sea of biased propaganda. I really really hope they are all saved in totality with multiple back ups in case something happens, they shoukd be reposted on multiple/every site that still allows free speech and thought... the value of these as a true historical record cannot be overstated! Thanks again for what you do! Please keep up the amazing work and please please make sure these are preserved for both future and current generations to watch and learn from...

  • @rc59191
    @rc59191 11 месяцев назад +37

    Well this is a nice surprise lol. As soon as I move into my new house I'll start donating to your patreon. I finally got caught up on all your videos it's nice to see someone from my generation providing an actual unbiased opinion about these topics. Channels like Lazerpig, Tik, and Armchair Historian, are entertaining to watch but it always feels like it's the same thing over and over again with their Germans evil Soviet and Allies good comments. Im proud of my service and my families service in World War II but it wasnt anything close to good guys vs bad guys like you mentioned in a previous video. Nobody likes hearing that the Germans were ordinary people not to mention we had a ton of Germsn POW's here in Kansas some worked on my family's farms and even stayed since my town started off as a German and Czech colony. Anyways keep doing what you're doing buddy I been downloading your videos because I'm sure someones gonna try and get them taken down and all history should be preserved.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 11 месяцев назад +9

      Well said.👍

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Occident.thank you.

    • @MrJohansen
      @MrJohansen 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, I used to enjoy those channels too but eventually the propaganda and lies just became too much to bear. Like how tik claims Hitler was left wing and that he was a socialist in the same way karl marx was a socialist which is just an insane thing to say. Or how armchair's explanation for the invasion of poland was "Hitler was looking for any excuse to invade and subjugate the poles, so they did a false flag attack and used that as justification"
      Also props to you for downloading these, it's very important that this information be preserved

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +9

      Thanks very much mate!

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +15

      Lol the idea that Hitler just randomly attacked Poland is crazy, armchair historian said that? Smh

  • @hugosophy
    @hugosophy 10 месяцев назад +8

    Can’t believe someone like henri fenet survived the war and then captivity

  • @jacobwilkerson6212
    @jacobwilkerson6212 6 месяцев назад +15

    These are great love your content! Watch Europa the Last Battle if you already have not.

  • @pseudonym745
    @pseudonym745 11 месяцев назад +44

    Calling Churchill the biggest warmonger takes some guts. But you are absolutely right. Maybe you could have added a big idiot..😅 Great chanel! Subscribed

    • @ruthmoreau6419
      @ruthmoreau6419 11 месяцев назад +26

      Churchill was all that and more. I would add that Roosevelt called him a drunken bum.

    • @tripwire8457
      @tripwire8457 10 месяцев назад +6

      Churchill was a warmonger and is responsible for the killing of many, including the sinking of part of the French Navy.
      He really hated the Germans. I personally believe his experience in South Africa played a role.

    • @user-jw6gf4eb2g
      @user-jw6gf4eb2g 9 месяцев назад

      Churchill was a Jewish puppet

    • @johnroyal4054
      @johnroyal4054 8 месяцев назад +7

      Because of his foolishness the great empire fell. He lived long enough to see the results

    • @garyking3576
      @garyking3576 7 месяцев назад

      It's become vogue to describe Churchill this way and suggest that Hitler, by comparison, was dove-like. Taylors Origins of the Second World War is a good account for balance.

  • @MrJohansen
    @MrJohansen 11 месяцев назад +23

    Another banger as always my man

  • @adriancrossman1569
    @adriancrossman1569 11 месяцев назад +12

    Very interesting and informative.

  • @Devilinabag
    @Devilinabag 6 месяцев назад +7

    These guys were bad ass

  • @justingiannace3577
    @justingiannace3577 11 месяцев назад +10

    Another banger.

  • @patrikfrostrand1555
    @patrikfrostrand1555 11 месяцев назад +24

    Great content as always, i really like how i learn from you after reading about ww2 for 20 years. Please do a doc about the Brown Eminence Martin Bormann. Mentioned far to less and had way bigger influence and control over the Furious Fuhrer. Thx :)

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +6

      He's on the list for sure! Doing a Goring one soon as the first of many biographies to come

  • @jman2903
    @jman2903 6 месяцев назад +6

    Good to see some real history not saturated with emotional propaganda

  • @LILliquid
    @LILliquid 9 месяцев назад +6

    I thought Leon Degrelle was in the Charlemagne SS until I looked it up today but apparently he was in another unit known as the Walloon.

    • @Somerandomnamex
      @Somerandomnamex 9 месяцев назад +9

      Of course. Degrelle was belgian not french so he was in the belgian (Walloon) division

    • @LILliquid
      @LILliquid 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Somerandomnamex That's literally what I said

    • @MonTube2006
      @MonTube2006 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@LILliquidNah

  • @thesecondsilvereich7828
    @thesecondsilvereich7828 10 месяцев назад +5

    Zapp brannigan of the ussr: i sent wave after wave of my own men at them till the enemy ran out of bullets

    • @AAaa-wu3el
      @AAaa-wu3el 10 месяцев назад

      Do not eat BS, boy. Just stop doing it, just stop.

  • @brominelover6747
    @brominelover6747 11 месяцев назад +7

    great work on the thumbnail too, looks great

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t make them but he is indeed a thumbnail genius yes

  • @SaturnReturns
    @SaturnReturns 11 месяцев назад +78

    I love hearing these accounts on the eastern front, but the endings are all always tragic and sad. Then I look around me at the current state of things and feel even worse 😂...
    Another great video. Thanks for your work.

    • @thebeimg
      @thebeimg 11 месяцев назад +1

      would you have enjoyed starving to death in kurland?

    • @SaturnReturns
      @SaturnReturns 11 месяцев назад +19

      @@thebeimg That's not the comparison I am making.

    • @thebeimg
      @thebeimg 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@SaturnReturns would be worse if they won

    • @SaturnReturns
      @SaturnReturns 11 месяцев назад +23

      @@thebeimg lol.

    • @danke1150
      @danke1150 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@thebeimg I'm not Jewish, so no.

  • @kronan3647
    @kronan3647 11 месяцев назад +9

    Another great video 👍

  • @AB-fo3hj
    @AB-fo3hj 6 месяцев назад +5

    History repeating itself for centuries, Europeans killing each other, so disappointing.

  • @Scotland2306
    @Scotland2306 11 месяцев назад +8

    Like your style. Liked and subscribed 💎

  • @yourmum256
    @yourmum256 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great video man

  • @salcrusader4813
    @salcrusader4813 3 месяца назад +4

    One of the best video about the Charlemagne heroes! Thank you!

  • @mochabean4325
    @mochabean4325 11 месяцев назад +6

    was looking forward to this one when I saw it recommended to me 😁

  • @Parabellum-oe3sw
    @Parabellum-oe3sw 10 месяцев назад +7

    When you fight harder for the country that occupied you than for your own

    • @MonTube2006
      @MonTube2006 7 месяцев назад

      Do you often display your ignorance in that manner ?

  • @nickdarr7328
    @nickdarr7328 9 месяцев назад +3

    Who remembers the line in the movie "Fury" where a company leader or some such minor officer is giving orders to Brad Pitts character to block a crossroads. The officer asks; why are they still fighting? They have to know they're beat. Pitt asks in return; would you stop fighting? Both give the look saying no, as long as there's an objective and someone giving orders they'd keep fighting. I can't imagine how narrow a focus a soldier has. You probably don't even know the situation of another company in your battalion let alone how the other fronts and theaters fair

  • @psforos
    @psforos 10 месяцев назад +5

    It's interesting to see events from a vantage point of the defeated, even if we reach different conclusions on certain aspects and outcomes of said events.

  • @Daggz90
    @Daggz90 7 месяцев назад +3

    Great work. Good stuff, was a pleasure to digest. Although much of this wasn't news to me, some of it was.
    Keep up the great work.

  • @strykermoonfall2220
    @strykermoonfall2220 11 месяцев назад +6

    Subscribed. You have an excellent channel

  • @DonutL
    @DonutL 11 месяцев назад +9

    Can you make a video about The Nazis Religion?

  • @brominelover6747
    @brominelover6747 11 месяцев назад +15

    Very informative as always, thank you for your work

  • @seas1829
    @seas1829 11 месяцев назад +14

    As you were speaking about frenchmen signing up because of their christian faith i got to thinking if you ever considered making a video on A.Hs and WW2 Germanys view on christianity, some people will claim they were very anti christian even among right wing circles however I think there are many quotes especially from A.H that would disprove this myth. Great video as always!

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +13

      Yeah it's on the list for sure, I'll do it in the not so distant future

    • @redcrown5154
      @redcrown5154 11 месяцев назад

      Thank you!@@ZoomerHistorian

    • @asusorion4756
      @asusorion4756 11 месяцев назад

      @seas1829 Adolf Hitler was not anti-Christian this is allied wartime propaganda trying to make the Germans seem Godless. A.H. was raised Catholic but like many these days did not actively keep going to church as an adult. A.H. encouraged strong church ties amongst his people to a certain extent because of the strong moral teachings and the cultural connection it held with many. What A.H. did not like was when Religion started to get involved with politics so permitted christianity as long as they kept to the religious side and kept out of politics. To stop Churches exploiting church peoples for muny they banned church donations from lay people and the state payed ministers wages . in the German Army belt buckle it said "God is with us." Gott mitt uns "

    • @dasaavawarsuploads1143
      @dasaavawarsuploads1143 5 месяцев назад +1

      "We will wash off the Christian veneer and bring out a religion peculiar to our race"

  • @totallyordinaryguy7570
    @totallyordinaryguy7570 11 месяцев назад +11

    Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷!

  • @Klaus_Schwab_Official
    @Klaus_Schwab_Official 11 месяцев назад +28

    Notre honneur s'appelle fidélité.

  • @h.p.lovecraft6904
    @h.p.lovecraft6904 11 месяцев назад +10

    another great video

  • @collinmaloney9001
    @collinmaloney9001 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for the video.

  • @nzmonsterman
    @nzmonsterman 4 месяца назад +1

    A magnificent video. Thank you for sharing. Sone great footage also.

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 10 месяцев назад +3

    Really, it was an informadible introduction episode and informative video...thank you for sharing

  • @TexanSillyBilly
    @TexanSillyBilly 11 месяцев назад +10

    Do a video on the Italian division in the SS! No one ever talks about that but it’s so interesting!

  • @asullivan4047
    @asullivan4047 11 месяцев назад +4

    Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Special thanks to veteran soldiers/civilians sharing personal information/combat experiences. Thru diaries/Memoirs enabling historians to replicate those stories. For future generations to better appreciate the hard ships/sacrifices suffered by the soldiers/civilians. Fighting/perishing /surviving knowing at times debilitating wounds were often times possible. Yet still advanced forward regardless of the consequences. True grit style determination to succeed!!! By mid 1944 the allies had military operations advantages over the axis troops. The disillusioned leadership in Berlin. Lived in denial that wonder weapons would give them an advantage in turning the war around to their advantage.

  • @robertlast3052
    @robertlast3052 4 месяца назад +2

    The only SS unit that didn't surrender but, was destroyed in Berlin.

  • @mvegetaxachilles7211
    @mvegetaxachilles7211 9 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing work!

  • @qefucan7591
    @qefucan7591 11 месяцев назад +17

    No more brother wars. Defend Europe and America.

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +1

      america and europe are not brothers dummy

  • @mrwhips3623
    @mrwhips3623 11 месяцев назад +8

    They seem based

  • @MrGroyper
    @MrGroyper 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome content man

  • @derrymullins-fp8pl
    @derrymullins-fp8pl 8 месяцев назад +2

    A very interesting video in a little reported part of the war thank you

  • @willgreen3665
    @willgreen3665 23 дня назад +2

    I was sold at war monger Churchill!

  • @justadildeau
    @justadildeau 11 месяцев назад +30

    Those last Frenchmen who fought to the end near the Fuhrerbunker are the only Frenchmen who redeemed my negative thoughts of France up until that point in post Napoleonic France's most recent history.
    However in truth I say this as a conflicted man of German, Italian, French and Spanish blood.

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 11 месяцев назад +8

      France pretty much ceased being a big boy after Napoleon was defeated. They went on a decline, by 1914 they barely hung on against just 60% of the German army on 1 front and needed British, Russian, Italian and American support to just scrape a win. Tf was that by France??

    • @justadildeau
      @justadildeau 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@rhysnichols8608 if you read my comment, you'll know you're in essence repeating much of what I said.
      What's the point you'd like to convey here? Can I learn something from your contribution?

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 11 месяцев назад

      @@justadildeau
      Stop being a cunt, I’m just engaging in discussion. Usually when someone agrees with you and reaffirms your point, it’s not customary to get passive aggressive. My mistake, next time I won’t seek discussion with people who share my niche views.

    • @didierpaya9069
      @didierpaya9069 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@rhysnichols8608 read a book of history please...

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 11 месяцев назад

      @@didierpaya9069
      I have , compared to her previous power France went on a decline after 1815. This is evident in 1870 and 1914, and the wars they did win against Mexico and Italy and Russia weren’t as good as their previous military record, these were largely second rate powers and France had strong allies to rely on in the Crimean war. When they actually faced peer on peer warfare in 1870 they were crushed. France of course was still powerful after Napoleon, but compared to the 17th to early 19th century, France was not the same player she was in the 19th and 20th century. How can France, the country that marched to Moscow and dominated Europe for centuries, barely manage to beat Germany when they had the 2 biggest empires in the world on their side, ww1 was a shock to many, really the combined might of France, the British empire, Russian empire and Italy ought to have won the war within months, it wasn’t until the US joined that Germany finally circummed. You can point out many individual cases of French brilliance post 1815, such as Solferino or Verdun, but on the hole they did take a steady general decline. They weren’t the foremost nation in Europe anymore

  • @rhysnichols8608
    @rhysnichols8608 11 месяцев назад +11

    Napoleon took on the banks before it was cool.

    • @CSmania1991
      @CSmania1991 6 месяцев назад +1

      Well, as a French, Napoleon put us in the shit. Our bank is owned by private, but the state finance and support everything. I beleive it is kind the same in USA with the %3D

    • @thesecondsilvereich7828
      @thesecondsilvereich7828 5 месяцев назад

      More like banked rolled by them

  • @DonaldTrumpGriefing
    @DonaldTrumpGriefing 6 месяцев назад +2

    How do you find the information you use for the videos? The amount of detail is extensive, and I would imagine much of this was buried and un-googlable.

    • @wingatebarraclough3553
      @wingatebarraclough3553 6 месяцев назад +1

      There are at least 2 books, "charlemagne " and "for europe "

    • @maxn.7234
      @maxn.7234 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@wingatebarraclough3553Another one: H1tl3r's Crusade.

  • @tonyelberg7814
    @tonyelberg7814 11 месяцев назад +2

    great video mate, ive got a charlemagne uniform

  • @behindthespotlight7983
    @behindthespotlight7983 11 месяцев назад +6

    4:56 sooooo you don’t like Churchill? He did get the job done. And was ignominiously turned out the back door before the war was won.

    • @commanderseraphus8059
      @commanderseraphus8059 10 месяцев назад

      Apparently wanting to fight nazis is warmongering.

    • @maxn.7234
      @maxn.7234 5 месяцев назад +3

      He got the job done, but who was he working for? Not the British people.

    • @chadplow824
      @chadplow824 3 месяца назад

      What job? Destroying the British Empire (and all of Europe) so he could defeat the enemies of his “sponsor” bankers?

  • @TrimbakkiFonElsass
    @TrimbakkiFonElsass 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this video. I have the book Pour L'Europe, reading it brings a lot of strong emotions.

  • @Odin-2233
    @Odin-2233 11 месяцев назад +7

    Oh yes!

  • @kleinesschreckgespenst319
    @kleinesschreckgespenst319 10 месяцев назад +9

    The elite 2th REP of the FFL still uses an old SS-March as their Regiment March. They basicly altered the text of the infamous song "SS marschiert ins Feindesland (SS marches in enemy territory)" aka "Teufelslied (The Devil's Song)" which was also used by the SS Charlemagne Division and slowed it down a bit, so it matches to their slower marching speed.
    The lyrics are:
    La Légion marche vers le front
    En chantant nous suivons,
    Héritiers de ses traditions
    Nous sommes avec elles.
    Nous sommes les hommes des troupes d’assaut,
    Soldats de la vieille Légion
    Demain brandissant nos Drapeaux
    En vainqueurs nous défilerons
    Nous n’avons pas seulement des armes
    Mais le diable marche avec nous.
    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Car nos aînés de la Légion
    Se battant là-bas, nous emboîtons le pas.
    Pour ce destin de chevalier,
    Honneur, Fidélité,
    Nous sommes fiers d’appartenir
    Au 2ème REP.

    • @pekkatuutti232
      @pekkatuutti232 9 месяцев назад +1

      A friend of mine served 5 years in 2eme REP

  • @davebarrowcliffe1289
    @davebarrowcliffe1289 10 месяцев назад +2

    Frightened of Bolshevism. Perfectly understandable.

  • @anglishbookcraft1516
    @anglishbookcraft1516 7 месяцев назад +20

    I think everyone needs to know that the Partisans weren’t heroic countrymen but barbaric communists.

  • @robertstewart6956
    @robertstewart6956 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @PseudoCommando
    @PseudoCommando 11 месяцев назад +5

    KINO VIDEO

  • @EnragedAngloSaxon
    @EnragedAngloSaxon 10 месяцев назад +13

    these are the Only Frenchmen form the WW2 Era who are Respectable.

    • @louisdedieu4662
      @louisdedieu4662 10 месяцев назад

      How can you say such a thing when Eisenhower had estimated French resistance at 20 armed divisions?
      Above all, they betrayed our nation even if I can recognize the motivation to continue the fight towards the end of the war because of communism, they are traitors and fighting in the name of losing Germany does not make them more glorious.

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +1

      i think the ones who sacrificed themselves covering the british fleeing at dunkirk might not like this com

    • @smal750
      @smal750 6 месяцев назад +1

      also your profile picture depicts a french norman soldier the ones who ended anglo saxon rule in england and started its frenchification that lasted centuries so it doesnt match your anglo saxon name

  • @torymartinez2439
    @torymartinez2439 9 месяцев назад

    Outstanding information. Awesome

  • @NYG5
    @NYG5 9 месяцев назад +4

    Crazy how them and the Spanish kept fighting for Berlin instead of trying to cut and run to the American lines

    • @Somerandomnamex
      @Somerandomnamex 9 месяцев назад +1

      They knew they had no home to go back to anymore. It would almost be worse for them to surrender to the Americans them to the soviets. They would be immediately handed over to french authorities where they would be placed before a kangaroo court and executed for treason within weeks.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 7 месяцев назад +2

      Because they would certainly have known they would be labelled as traitors to their country well the French anyway and would be executed as such.

  • @terrywarner8657
    @terrywarner8657 11 месяцев назад +1

    The interlude music at 34:54 is ironically, The Maple Leaf Forever, an older Canadian patriotic song.

  • @davidwatt4511
    @davidwatt4511 10 месяцев назад +3

    just found this channel and love it.ive read 100s of books on ww2 but almost nothing about this.easterfront and last battles are what i like the most.

  • @mayachico9766
    @mayachico9766 3 месяца назад +1

    I recommend Europa, the last battle....

  • @Lakeland_IV
    @Lakeland_IV 11 месяцев назад +2

    awesome LVF documentary 👍 RIP czonian ghetto

  • @youngnationalist6211
    @youngnationalist6211 11 месяцев назад +9

    You should do das reich next

    • @ZoomerHistorian
      @ZoomerHistorian  11 месяцев назад +6

      The material I have would mean it's the Latvian SS next if I do another big SS video

  • @mullythebully5557
    @mullythebully5557 11 месяцев назад +7

    Respect to Eugene Vaulot