@Motionmagnetics. Thank you so much for reviewing my magnet track design, I had started to wonder if it would ever gain momentum. I understand my design still requires work and I would love to collaborate with you if your interested. Money is no longer my focus, I’m not wealthy but I know I have more than many and I will survive, so I would like to contribute something to the people of this beautiful rock we live on, it may very well be that this track isn’t the solution but I’m ok with failure and would love the help of a great researcher such as yourself. I can’t think of any other channel that could help better than yours could, I have watched most of your videos over the years and if there was ever someone capable of helping it might just be you. Sincerely, thank you again.
@@Motionmagneticsgood afternoon. I have a proposal on how to make a magnetic road to generate energy. I propose to study the flight trajectory of spacecraft - a gravitational sling - a spiral fall along the orbit of the planet and then exit from orbit in a straight line.
@@Mechanic-s-Arktura we have never been to the moon since 1970, ask yourself why. And go watch some documentaries on whether we even landed on the moon on 1969.
What about if you use an insulator on the magnets so that all sides are blocking the forces externally to the casing apart from 1 chosen pole lets say north do this on all of the magnets so that it only has opposing poles working in repulsion & zero attractive forces to slow down the motion this would cancel out all cogging also i would have the same north pole maglev bearings to reduce drag hope this helps you on future approach
If you built a rotary one, it should be vertically oriented and there should be a way to over come the stoppage and reset the momentum by gapping the correct section of the rotor differently. Like at the point of gravitational momentum maximum
That's a brilliant idea. Let's try to do that by using electromagnets instead, and switching on only the right ones at any given time to get that "gap" you're talking about; oh, wait, that's exactly how electric motors work already.
Put the magnets in to square holders that span the whole way across so you can do micro tilt adjustments on them all at once to test various size wheels and other fine tuning.
it seems to me that is you take the flat track and make it a circle with the wheel from the flat track in the middle. not one of the wheels but 2 or 3 of them spinning on opposing sides of the inside loop track would make it go.
I have an Idea for a perpetual motion machine that I haven't seen anyone try. Have a one way magnet track that spirals upwards. The magnet then falls down to reset itself back at the beginning of the track. Hopefully you can bypass the repulsive force by skipping it all together with gravity (or at least having gravity help overcome the repulsive force), having the magnet fall into the proper place for propulsion. It's a simple idea, hope it works or at least interests you. Thanks for all the great work you do!
It takes energy to lift an object against the force of gravity. Where would the spiraling object get that energy from? That's why you never see an object roll uphill, or have you?
@@noblephoenix6151 I don't see how it can roll uphill against the force of gravity even the first time at launch. This channel's creator is only moving the object sideways when he gives it slight push. This slight push is the energy required to change it's position. It never increases its height ( potential energy) against gravity. Things don't roll uphill.
You need a magnetic yoke. This will get you past the sticking point (reversal attraction, repulsion, etc) The size, shape, placement, and mobility of the yoke are all vitally important to achieve what you are after. The yoke would need to be part of a working mechanism, so that the yoke is applied with exact timing. Think of clock work escapement as a potential model to achieve this. Also, traditional magnet shapes are not ideal. Custom carved magnets, with proper directional polarity would potentially help as well. All the best!
Is your goal a perpetual motion machine? If you could reduce the friction on a spinning or moving body enough to have it spin or move forever what good would it be if it can't put out any useful work? Where would the energy come from to perform that work?
I explained my thoughts on perpetual motion in my previous video. My goal was simply to see how long the wheel could continue to move along the magnetic track.
Inward/outward spiraling flat track, complimentary arc spiraling arms and multiple disks along the length of each arm. Pulling/pushing across the phase gaps with those in the advanced phases. Keeping the delta v on the inside of the waves barrel. To drive the slackers over their crests, in tow then rolling into the slackers own "push" phase at the tail end of the repulsion stroke. Also being driven through by the other spiral spokes* mind you. Like making that magnetic fountain funnel, but it falls/pushes inward or downward by the time dialation difference between the spiraling track and the arc of the spokes. Magnetically forward by the time sequence, multiple positions in phase of forward thrust and multiple points of time connected on each individual arc, being driven into phase. Almost like physically trapping multiple points in time all entangled to a single sweeping arch. Advancing or falling down the funnel into inverted delta v. Picture a clock with multiple rings of the numbers in rows around the center like the rings of a bullseye target. The outer most shell starts with 12 at the top as usual, but the next inner ring has the 12 time point at the 1 o'clock position, the next starts at 2, and so on. Then on the hands there are disks aligned to run on each track of time. All the disks despite being seperate on different time diameter tracks, are locked into one continuum on the sweep of that hand. As the arm advances the entangled time points create the dimple in space time that the system is always seeking to fill. Being dragged forwared by the points furthest forward in time. The points that are on the inner, forward, cascading side of the wave. Ie. The points that are rolling inside the barrel of the wave are driving the points that need to be paddled in to catch the break of the next wave set. All riding down the wave face in tandem. Flat Achimedese wheel magnetic funnel; Duh. Lol.😅.... No but there's still friction though. However, we are talking magnets here, ie. may still end up being net +. What's the mileage on a RE magnet with that kind of load taxing it's lifespan anyway. Forever..!? I can't imagine a little friction being a higher demand than the direct drive magleve trains weve got flying around. I mean, what about cern. That actuall funnel track for the disks to roll on was an interesting idea that whoever gave. Have the disks roll in an elliptical and sloped curve etc. Sht, what about a (y) axis hexagonal, triple-helix-vector clamshell track. Without the helix... twist... for that matter..! Get some speed racer track RnD sht going down on this perpetual motion biacchh😂 No wait.! A tilted double mobius elipse (on the cricical xy axies points) of course. How the hell would the wheels swivel through the pivots, oh yea.! an L shaped mount to trail wheel pairs like horizontal airplane struts, set back to flip freely behind the arm. Now that just ridiculous...😂 K, that's all... 😂...
@@a.bloke2.0alwayslearning.23 wtf are you babbling about? Are their comments in here I can’t see or something or did you post that under the wrong comment?
I probably should have covered that in the video. The original video that I provided the link to covers that in detail. The north poles of the magnets are facing to one side of the wheel and the south poles are facing the other side. On the track, the poles of the magnets are facing north toward the opening of the track and south toward the opening on the opposite side of the track.
Think of a train circle track, with magnets at both sides like you place those tracks. And the rotation of each magnet changes based on where the wheel (via spring or liquid), so its essentially a self-reinforcing maglev slingshot.
As you explained, you can arrange magnets to get a slingshot effect, however it basically has a boundary you need to cross first. The general idea now is to have enough inertia/momentum to easily overcome this. Once you got that, you enter the slingshot area again, also gaining inertia/momentum again. But somehow I think it's still not that easy
I wouldn't say there's no noticable slowing, 4:00, which there is, but rather that, although the disc slows, the effects of inertia and momentum, are able to overcome the repulsion, thereby resulting in continuous motion. This has to be one of the most promising methods I've seen, and it would be awesome if you two could collaborate, to ultimately achieve the efficiency that eludes everyone thus far... With money and materials as no object, I believe y'all may be on the right track...
Good point. Some of the wheels did slow, while others didn't noticeably seem to. I tested 5 or 6 sizes and orientations and spliced all the clips together. We have discussed collaborating. I would like to see his design work.
@@Motionmagneticsaybe try tilting the magnets or angle them in a way would help. also 6:24 the magnets in the flywheel should be in a 🌀 spiral shape this would help the consistently of inertia I believe
What if you started with a partiality complete circle track and then close the circle after the wheel starts moving? Responding to the 4:50 minute mark.
No. He has to place the roller past the repulsion at the entrance of the track to get that effect. It's similar to how a spring works. If he slowly pushed the wheeled roller toward the beginning of his track it would try to push it away until he reached a certain point past the edge or opening of the track.
@@TheWorldBelow360 It would cog and not complete a full rotation because you would lose the spring effect once the track lost its exit and entry points that cause the effect.
@@Motionmagnetics So if the circle is complete, the wheeled roller would lose its moments of impetus, that being both repulsion and attraction. Or impulsion, which apparently is a word.
I know this is a long shot but, I'm curious. Laugh if you will but, I'm wondering if you spaced the magnets, according to the 12 notes of the music scale on a piano, what happens! Like A to A sharp being 1/2 step, A to B being 1 whole step, and then B to C not having a 1/2 interval or sharp/flat, continuing from C to D being a whole with a 1/2 interval of C# in between the C & D and the same from D to E but E to F having no 1/2 interval. Or for simplicity purposes just space them like the black keys are spaced from the white keys of the piano! Who knows what would occur!
Job well done Motion Magnetics. Just want to mention that NEO magnets are not accurately checked or labeled for magnetic strength. The magnets that are correctly labeled cost twice as much. Good day and Happy Easter too.
Thank you. Yes, I recently ordered some Neodymium Magnets from China that were not only NOT the pull force that they were listed as but were the wrong size as well. Best to test each one individually when precision is required. Happy Easter to you.
@@Motionmagnetics I already have had delivered the wrong strength and the wrong N S location index. This throw off my experiment and set me back way to long in time too. Also, the nickel plating just peed off. Just so you know MM the epoxy coatings are way better than the plate for strength and durability. Good day Sir too.
Well the system doesn't offer enough thrust. You'd get better results using a liquid conductive material like suspended aluminum. The magnets are controlled with diodes, so you control the balance you get with permanent magnets. The power only flows in one direction. Yes it requires electric magnet coils spaced to deliver a strong pull, with a weak pull back because of the liquid material resistance. You actually gain thrust. The liquid material moves though a pipe (plastic or glass) that has a design narrow to wide. Wide is like a thick piece of aluminum, and narrow has limited conductive ability. The diodes control the whole system, and the speed of flow could reach hundreds of miles an hour. To convert the flow into thrust the liquid pushes into the narrow sections of pipe, and has almost nothing as it expands into the wide sections pushing back. At the end of the flow pipe it has to lift a spring valve to keep the flow continuing. This also transfers into thrust. Aluminum car lift an electric train. So it's going to deliver some strong thrust.
I really know nothing about any of this stuff but I noticed you saying that in your original designs for the track you experimented with symmetrical distances between the magnets and that this led to the problem of having to break the magnetic field of the next cluster using the momentum from the previous one. I notice that the arrangement of the magnets even tho its 5mm to 10mm to 15mm this seems to only go in one directions around the track (meaning on the track at 7:38 for example, two magnets are always closer together on the left with a third slightly farther apart magnet afterwards). Is it possible that there is an irregular sequence of distances between each magnet that may seem haphazard on initial inspection but based on mathematical calculations propel the object from any point in the track from either direction? It seems like the current design is still symmetrical to me
Perhaps using a different spacing on multiple magnets within the rotor in a fashion where some number (1 or more ) radiate from the center out to the periphery will create the imbalance needed to facilitate, in this case, rotation along with the gap between the magnets on the stator.. tanks for your vids and research…
How about adding another track above the disk. With offset timing to stabilize delta velocity. In the ring format the disks would be sandwiched between an inner and outer band. Like the race housing for a ball-bearing casset. Why stop there.? You could stack multiple cassets and tune them in phase to drive the delta constant. Replace the disk with a cylinder that runs the full height of the outer drum, or stack the cassets in different size configurations like a cone, hour-glass etc. Possibly driving through several phase issues in one "direct drive" platform. Pros and cons; multi drive levers for funky housing shapes VS one static sprocket lever for compounding torque; all to the main center* drive shaft of course. Those other ideas some people had are pretty darn genius. Like the square or triangle yoke to encase the planet gears, sorta like inside a rotary engine.! Genius. And moreso the other one where they suggest tipping the track in a rocking coin motion. Creating a wave function like a gravity engine. Perpetual fountain gravity funnel.. 😂 sht is genius.! Don't forget about friction, the shaft that funnel wobbles around could quantize levels of heat we'd need to measure in Hawkins. 😂 actually I think that system might fail at harmonic resonance. The wave dipole space-time dimple would collapse from the extra heat dispersal while in tuned phase. Dropping back into the wake of C. Mass begets gravity, begets mass, x(Pi3)2 after all. IOW the coin will always settle to flatten out, seeking rest from the wave function farting out energy @ resonance like coronal mass ejections. Lol
The figuration using magnetic coils firing and charging in a reasonateable control frequency with mercury fluid dynamics bearings and you got something
i had a thought, the basic idea is to use multiple electromagnets /coils to drag the focused unit around a track by pulsing each...also to optimise the power utilise, the flux field (generated by the field collapse as it's switched off/on) could be directed by diodes to prepare consecutive coils for the pending pulse. Optimally efficiency it would operate in a vacuum enclosure. One potential candidate instead of reinventing the wheel pun, is to repurpose an LG smart drive motor which is inherently preconfigured already and possibly useful for this concept being based on multiple coils in series.
Motionmagnetics, You talked about using momentum and inertia for get past the sticky points. Have you considered using a configuration that would take advantage of leverage in order to help gain more advantage in getting past the sticky points? Years ago I toyed around with perpetual motion ideas. Yours as well as many others' channels got subscribed to and I am always watching new videos to see how people are doing. The one thing I don't see people who get close is then taking the next step and using leverage somehow to make it successful.
Yes, I've been looking at leverage and other forms of mechanical advantage lately. I plan on sharing some new ideas I have once I have built and tested them.
@@Motionmagnetics Another suggestion if you are interested in trying it. When I was messing around with my magnets I found that 2 magnets can pass closely by when they are perpendicular to each other. Let me see if I can describe what I mean... I had a magnet that was N/S on the flat surfaces. I took another just like it, but ran the thinner edge across the flat edge (either pole works). The magnet on edge wanted to rotate to align S to N with the flat magnet. There was no force impeding me sliding the magnet ALONG the flat magnet. So my thought was that you could use the attractive force of the magnets to pull together (by not having they lined up in a neutral position) and then using leverage tilt the end-on magnet just a little until it reaches that neutral position and let it slide by from it's momentum. Since I don't have a 3d printer I could not set up something to make this setup, so I could not check if it would work. If you can't figure out what I'm trying to explain, let me know and I can reach out in an email or something and send a picture or diagram.
@@ronrothrock7116 I'm not positive, but I think I've experimented with a similar configuration? You might present the idea in a video with a diagram to further clarify it? The more ideas we put out there, the more minds there are to explore and expound upon those ideas.
How about this..... Same concept but with cavity with a media inside copper bb's, mercury, or something along that line that could help ignore the negative force and countering the imbalance
Fyi. The magnetic force of attraction exactly equals the magnets force of repulsion. Yherefore, no work can be done with magnets alone. One can extract energy from a magnet, but it would be less than the energy used to make the magnet in the first place, and very little at that. Then you no longer have a magnet. Any device claiming to extract energy from a magnet that runs more than a few seconds is fake. One cannot make a motor turn indefinitely with magnets alone. Energy must be added in order to get energy out, and it's always less than what was put in. Always.
Yea we know... were exploring the horizon looking for new things we don't, know. That's how the forefathers got us to where we're at now. So let's continue to scour for any clues that may have been missed.. Einstein himself said emc2 "isn't complete",,, right...?😏
Add intelligence into the wheel with a microcomputer and some electromagnets...this should smooth out the roll and create acceleration, slowing or stopping. You'll need to protect the circuitry from the magnetic fields and ground out the eddy currents through the track to a common ground. This could all be networked into a series of wheels to a bank of backup computers on board the main vehicle so that motion can be overridden in the case of wheel failure. Or the computer can be placed aboard the vehicle and the wheel electromagnets can be timed since those electromagnets would/could be symmetrically placed.
What if we start at the middle of the track but with full momentum? What happens if we use a spring or something to store the initial energy to burst fire some momentum in the wheel?
It will exit the track, but that won't work if you convert it to a rotary track in this configuration. To use a spring you'd have to put in as much energy to compress the spring as you'd get out of it. Nice thought though. Thanks.
Amazing content! Thank you for sharing! I wonder if you have any plan to experiment with pendulums and magnets? Milkovic two stage oscillators are super interesting! In my attempt to make an analog of Tesla's TMT with a wind powered Milkovic oscillator i got some very interesting results.
Possibly. I was looking into escapements and that led to designing a series of gears that could be turned by use of weights, and that led me to start designing a gravity generator.
@@Motionmagnetics Thank you! Yes, escapements are interesting too. I think pendulums are the best mechanical analogy for Tesla's electrostatic oscillators. Similar like is water for electricity, so called electronic-hydraulic analogy. Do you remember a toy from 70's so called 'clackers'? That would be interesting to try with magnets! & magnetic Jojo would be interesting to try too!:)
@@oxiigen They might be, and yes I do. That's a blast from the past. I imagine they would work more like springs as they would start to repel once they were in close proximity to each other rather than just bouncing off upon impact.
@@Motionmagnetics Right, magnetic clackers should use rigid rods instead of ropes and rotation limited to one axis only, that should work. And magnets should be strong enough to avoid direct impact because of damage i guess. Magnets are so fun!
That clip of the hexagon magnets was convincing of actual perpetual motion because the device above it accelerated. But there's no such thing as free energy beyond simply lifting a little above gravity - forever, right?
U need to use negative feed, on outside of a flying saucer, so it doesn't ark. So same with this. But U need to to three big coils top middle and bottom. Or two same size as your magnet setup, and run magnet frequency vibration using spectra spinning magnets not the iron core moving, it's opposite is best always
Give it a try and post your results. It would be good to see more people working together to find the best solution, and it might inspire others to try.
What if you heated the repulsion side of the first magnet at each array? If you could heat only one side of that magnet i think it will retain propulsion and limit repulsion.
Can you have a swing arm which actuates a lift of some type from a circle of magnets lifting always the lead magnet or magnets at all times by the special shape of the swing arm which cannot fail to lift or pop up only the lead magnets as the arm and it's magnet follow until you manually stop or brake the system
What about putting the track on the inner/outer face of the ring. Then have the wheel/wheels revolve like planetary gears, rolling around the track to torque the cranks driving the center shaft. You could split/double the rings and have the crank levers run in between so the wheel can be rail centered on the track and maybe add teeth to keep the force timing alignment consistent. The addition of the gear teeth and at least a second wheel should help overcome the remainder difference from pi. Like having multiple cylinders helps overcome TDC. Also more friction though. Maybe initial enertia can have thermodynamics shove it up its wormhole, after all... Or maybe have it drive the shaft with a magneticly locked drum, like a torque converter. That would need a specific weight reduction design though. Ehh, food for thought.
@@Motionmagnetics I know right.!? First and foremost; friction... time÷motion makes energy get swept away down relativity river with even the tinyest bit of mass interaction, before even getting to physical contact.. Might as well be an inverted slope for all practical purposes. But then there wouldn't be light. Lol. Entropy is a frigid succubus we can't live without. Haha, hey what if you chill the magnets with nitro halfway to supercon but still far from coupling. There would still be the the clearance/suspension issue to resolve though. Between the track, gears and now possibly side rails unless you could get em to lock just right at some critical apex temp or something. Thats a pretty big R.D jump for a hobby prototype though:: 2(x3)d... and then is it really net + with the nitro factored. What about renewable supplements for the cryogenic overhead. Or whatever entropy factor for that matter? Heck energize the plates with a renewable source and turn it into a kinetic turbune. But then were back to heat. round we go... 😆 power plant hybrid combos. Why don't the nuke plants use the excess heat for other applications more prolifically, already; is the question.
Oh btw, instead of repeating uniformity, each cluster should be graduated from the last by the successive increasing factor of 1 of the dirivitives of the aforementioned sums , like specificly calculated random 😉
The key may be in using electromagnets in the areas that cause the motion to stop, have a computer turn off the magnets at that time so the mover can get past that location, in fact, I'm not sure about the energy usage, but using all computer controlled electromagnets you can possibly create more energy than is used to charge the electro magnets... if it takes as much energy to move as it does to charge or more then this concept won't work then the electro magnets just in the areas of magnetic resistance might work and permanent magnets elsewhere. I think that by using the pendulum concept of just pushing it a little more each time with a weak electromagnet that you can build up power. But I haven't thought about this, but I've always known there is something to the magnets that we haven't discovered and I believe that it's a known but hidden secret.
Might a circular version be hampered by some unseen flux that should not be looped? If 4 meters straights works, it's hard to explain why a circle well over a meter in diameter wouldn't.
Some of that was addressed in the latest video that the inventor of this configuration posted in his latest video. You can find the link to his original video in the description, then just click on his latest video from his channel.
When you know Maxwell they said poles atracct and repulsed poles but when you can provides a simple constant and said when one pole toutchy other the fields unitted but when it's the same if the pole is too large them unitted for then repels and ocurrs the same in other polarity, when you known FOCOULT he said when the propagation in serie is confluence the force increasing with ferromanetic presence, and when you meet Lorentz he said the force of electricity can convert to other force that is magnetism, in my own planification I sopoused that a magnet carry is constant energy in flux so I when you had a magnet intervention you must to put first the pole attract and then inertia and pole repels do the rest but not the resistance of flux is the bearing you also can do it if you put a magnetic bearing and then the flux also you can put inside is a powerfull army doing things like attract and repels but instead a force in back returns of line mode angle of 180° had the earth and the fem in motion but instead don't case fem in motion that are North to South poles think in allineated with the earth then put a instead the fem direction don't flux with the arm and also you hadding a better flux then instead the arm have to had 32 poles up and 32 instead secuenciary 32 and 32 is 64 magnets put instead 57 in section into that then 9 into the plate of 57 repels your wheel of 16 poles
I wonder if u get a small electric motor to turn a water vortex setup the vortex like a cluth on a car to see how much the water vortex flywheel can move a car
I have a track design that runs off of weight wanting to roll downhill, both to the right and the left inside the track. I believe it will keep running on it's own, but i don't have the means to build it. If you would like to build one, i would be happy to let you have the plans for it. I don't want anything in return, i literally just want to see if it works.
If you have the time, Shoot a short video with still shots of your plans. I'd be happy to take a look and you might find yourself inspiring people to give it a try if they find your idea compelling.
@@Motionmagnetics The tucking power Top doesn't really need a detailed drawing. It's the 3rd design i'm sharing that uses attraction only, and i don't think it will keep running, but will provide pure raw torque and propulsion with Zero sticky points. It's simply magnetic slats that are attracted to each other at all times, than can slide in towards the center of the top towards each other, and slide out away from the center of the top until they hit stops. So you spin the Top up manually fast enough where the Slats are forced all the way out hitting the stops. Centrifugal force is keeping the slats away from the center of the Top because you are manually spinning the Top up real fast. Now let go, stop manually spinning it.......as the Top slows down, now the Slats magnetically attracted to each other start tucking themselves in towards the center of the Top, which of course makes the Top spin Faster...just like an Ice Skater Tucking their arms in.
Hey man you should do another experiment using electricity. There’s lots being created with your track maybe you can bank it in capacitors and use electromagnets to make it more efficient.
That's been suggested a few times. The idea was to cycle movement without electrical input. Electrical input would, however, make things more interesting.
Adding a "tri-pole" magnet into the configuration might solve your problems. There's a few you tube videos on tri-pole magnets. There are ones that repel both + and = as well as attract both polarities.
Excellent concept & video. I am loving it. Thank you. just a suggestion .. try putting a neutral track (no magnets) before and after the entry/exit. My understanding is that the circular wheel will not enter the magnetized portion. And also .. after completing its journey (if at all it does) to the magnetic edge it may continue forward. But will roll back after traveling 6 to 8 inches. Can both entry and exit be accomplished by adding a weight to the circular wheel. Basically im-balancing it at the point of entry and exit. The weight should force the wheel to enter the magnetic track. Additionally the weight should also force the wheel out of the magnetic system. The trick would be to have just the right length of the track. So the wheel escapes the magnets with the additional gravitational force. Provided by the extra weight on the wheel. Also just a thought. Obviously using a another magnet for the extra weight would not be a good idea. Because of interference with the magnetic flux on the track. Similarly using heavy metal weights like iron/copper/lead will also be counter productive. Because of eddies (and magnetic forces) created by motion. Something neutral like stone would be excellent. Shall be eagerly waiting to hear your comments. Thank you. Blessings & Warm Regards.
Thanks. It's really just my review of another RUclips creator's work. You have to push the wheel into the field, but it will exit the track even if you add an extra track without magnets. You can use weight to force it into the track, but that can also cause drag as you exit. The trick is to try to keep it imbalanced. Stone is not a bad idea. Thanks for the kind words.
Put a 2l soda bottle on top with it full of water and golf balls try 3 or 2 and see if it increases the speed with the water vortex the gulf balls make,i heard a water vortex can increase speed x6 like a flywheel but lighter and better
@Motionmagnetics I think you're missing the giant elephant in the room... Why would expect a 3D result from a 2D design? The forces will push/pull the rotor through the stator axially. Love your work btw 😘 I've watched you for years
If only we could get that magnet in the right way, or get a bigger magnet, heck, let's even call the Tube Bar and see if the Hallgalikeakick guy is in?
Hey mate, long time sub and really enjoy your videos. Just jumped over to rumble and wanted to confirm that you only have 3 videos over there? Or have I somehow gone to some spook site haha? Please let me know so I can sub to the right channel. Cheers
Thank you. Yes, that's the one. It's really six videos, as I remastered my 3 part series on the types of magnetic motors into one video and combined the 2 videos I did on validating a magnetic motor. I intend to put more content up there later, but it will also serve as a backup in case I ever need to recreate this channel.
@@Motionmagnetics perfect just wanted to check in mate 👍🏻 Keep them coming mate, it’s nice to keep the brain ticking and thinking about new possibilities 👍🏻
if you are still doing experiments i have a pretty good idea that you may want to try if i can get in contact with you i can explain it, its very simple wont take much to be made
Oh, and yes, metal is your worst enemy, at least as long as you're not harvesting these eddy currents. Ball bearings also increase their friction drastically when introduced to magnetic fields. So you definitely have to use full! ceramic bearings.
So are you saying you could build roads like this and as long as you had a small motor to build speed you can then turn it of and roll the full length of the road massively reducing costs and carbon
I'm going through my recommended videos and I come across some random channel claiming perpetual motion from permanent magnets called motoflux. Out of sheer curiosity I looked them up and while they themselves don't claim it's perpetual (and specifically state perpetual motion is impossible), they do claim it's a motor that uses only laminated ferromagnets and permanent magnets. Not only that, but they claim to have a patent, and that the torque output of the motor is much greater than the torque input. I wouldn't mind a 3rd party looking into it. Lol
Hello, I have seen a number of your videos on RUclips. I have 2 questions; (1)Did you manage to measure the torque (in case of a working rotary permanent magnet motor) or the thrust (in case of a working linear permanent magnet motor)? (2)what was the total mass of the system (rotary or linear) that corresponds to that torque/thrust? Regards, Sam ps, I do design electric motors and if the torque/thrust mass density of these permanent magnet motors is high/low you might start/cancel my journey with these permanent-magnet motors.
I emplore u to try this... ive spent years investigating PI and PHI as linear equations, to which ALL things are governed by universal constants... i believe the "spacing of the magnets IS the key to overcome the inertia... the problem is the numbers... reproduce using all increments of PI and PHI 😊ex. 3.141 ÷2 = 1.57 , 1.618÷2= .80 , 1.618 -1.57 = .048 , 3.14- 1.618= 1.52...etc... hopefully u see without me going through all, that any spacing can be had from tiny to large by mixing,/+/- these numbers and incorporating / substituting for your sequences.... the right combination should lead to a result neither of us can imagine 🤔...esp. if making circle tracks, seems almost blaphamous to not include PI haha 😊 hope this is the answer 🙏
@Motionmagnetics. Thank you so much for reviewing my magnet track design, I had started to wonder if it would ever gain momentum. I understand my design still requires work and I would love to collaborate with you if your interested. Money is no longer my focus, I’m not wealthy but I know I have more than many and I will survive, so I would like to contribute something to the people of this beautiful rock we live on, it may very well be that this track isn’t the solution but I’m ok with failure and would love the help of a great researcher such as yourself. I can’t think of any other channel that could help better than yours could, I have watched most of your videos over the years and if there was ever someone capable of helping it might just be you.
Sincerely, thank you again.
You're very welcome. And thank you, that's very kind of you. I just responded on your channel as to what I think is the best first step.
@@Motionmagneticsgood afternoon. I have a proposal on how to make a magnetic road to generate energy. I propose to study the flight trajectory of spacecraft - a gravitational sling - a spiral fall along the orbit of the planet and then exit from orbit in a straight line.
@@Mechanic-s-Arktura we have never been to the moon since 1970, ask yourself why. And go watch some documentaries on whether we even landed on the moon on 1969.
You have worked this more than anyone I have met. I have always felt there is some way to make this work. Still do.
Thanks. I've of the same opinion.
What about if you use an insulator on the magnets so that all sides are blocking the forces externally to the casing apart from 1 chosen pole lets say north do this on all of the magnets so that it only has opposing poles working in repulsion & zero attractive forces to slow down the motion this would cancel out all cogging also i would have the same north pole maglev bearings to reduce drag hope this helps you on future approach
Thanks for the suggestions.
If you built a rotary one, it should be vertically oriented and there should be a way to over come the stoppage and reset the momentum by gapping the correct section of the rotor differently. Like at the point of gravitational momentum maximum
That's a brilliant idea. Let's try to do that by using electromagnets instead, and switching on only the right ones at any given time to get that "gap" you're talking about; oh, wait, that's exactly how electric motors work already.
Put the magnets in to square holders that span the whole way across so you can do micro tilt adjustments on them all at once to test various size wheels and other fine tuning.
it seems to me that is you take the flat track and make it a circle with the wheel from the flat track in the middle. not one of the wheels but 2 or 3 of them spinning on opposing sides of the inside loop track would make it go.
I have an Idea for a perpetual motion machine that I haven't seen anyone try. Have a one way magnet track that spirals upwards. The magnet then falls down to reset itself back at the beginning of the track. Hopefully you can bypass the repulsive force by skipping it all together with gravity (or at least having gravity help overcome the repulsive force), having the magnet fall into the proper place for propulsion.
It's a simple idea, hope it works or at least interests you.
Thanks for all the great work you do!
Sounds similar to a SMOT device in that gravity would play into the design.
@@Motionmagnetics pretty much yes, except one that would not be on a circle track, but a corkscrew that spirals up to then drop back in.
It takes energy to lift an object against the force of gravity. Where would the spiraling object get that energy from? That's why you never see an object roll uphill, or have you?
@@William_Hada From the initial magnetic launch, starting however you like.
@@noblephoenix6151 I don't see how it can roll uphill against the force of gravity even the first time at launch. This channel's creator is only moving the object sideways when he gives it slight push. This slight push is the energy required to change it's position. It never increases its height ( potential energy) against gravity. Things don't roll uphill.
You need a magnetic yoke. This will get you past the sticking point (reversal attraction, repulsion, etc) The size, shape, placement, and mobility of the yoke are all vitally important to achieve what you are after. The yoke would need to be part of a working mechanism, so that the yoke is applied with exact timing. Think of clock work escapement as a potential model to achieve this. Also, traditional magnet shapes are not ideal. Custom carved magnets, with proper directional polarity would potentially help as well. All the best!
Interesting idea. I like where your thought process took you, as I've been researching clock escapements recently for another project.
Finaly someone true and willing to actualy do and show some scientific content thanks man Im going to suscribe to keep up!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
The key is to obtain an inmbalance between the rotor and stator and by dividing among the digits (1,...,9) can lead you to the answer.
Is your goal a perpetual motion machine? If you could reduce the friction on a spinning or moving body enough to have it spin or move forever what good would it be if it can't put out any useful work? Where would the energy come from to perform that work?
I explained my thoughts on perpetual motion in my previous video. My goal was simply to see how long the wheel could continue to move along the magnetic track.
I might have this I have a good idea
Inward/outward spiraling flat track, complimentary arc spiraling arms and multiple disks along the length of each arm. Pulling/pushing across the phase gaps with those in the advanced phases. Keeping the delta v on the inside of the waves barrel. To drive the slackers over their crests, in tow then rolling into the slackers own "push" phase at the tail end of the repulsion stroke. Also being driven through by the other spiral spokes* mind you. Like making that magnetic fountain funnel, but it falls/pushes inward or downward by the time dialation difference between the spiraling track and the arc of the spokes. Magnetically forward by the time sequence, multiple positions in phase of forward thrust and multiple points of time connected on each individual arc, being driven into phase. Almost like physically trapping multiple points in time all entangled to a single sweeping arch. Advancing or falling down the funnel into inverted delta v. Picture a clock with multiple rings of the numbers in rows around the center like the rings of a bullseye target. The outer most shell starts with 12 at the top as usual, but the next inner ring has the 12 time point at the 1 o'clock position, the next starts at 2, and so on. Then on the hands there are disks aligned to run on each track of time. All the disks despite being seperate on different time diameter tracks, are locked into one continuum on the sweep of that hand. As the arm advances the entangled time points create the dimple in space time that the system is always seeking to fill. Being dragged forwared by the points furthest forward in time. The points that are on the inner, forward, cascading side of the wave. Ie. The points that are rolling inside the barrel of the wave are driving the points that need to be paddled in to catch the break of the next wave set. All riding down the wave face in tandem. Flat Achimedese wheel magnetic funnel; Duh. Lol.😅.... No but there's still friction though. However, we are talking magnets here, ie. may still end up being net +. What's the mileage on a RE magnet with that kind of load taxing it's lifespan anyway. Forever..!? I can't imagine a little friction being a higher demand than the direct drive magleve trains weve got flying around. I mean, what about cern.
That actuall funnel track for the disks to roll on was an interesting idea that whoever gave. Have the disks roll in an elliptical and sloped curve etc. Sht, what about a (y) axis hexagonal, triple-helix-vector clamshell track. Without the helix... twist... for that matter..! Get some speed racer track RnD sht going down on this perpetual motion biacchh😂
No wait.! A tilted double mobius elipse (on the cricical xy axies points) of course. How the hell would the wheels swivel through the pivots, oh yea.! an L shaped mount to trail wheel pairs like horizontal airplane struts, set back to flip freely behind the arm.
Now that just ridiculous...😂
K, that's all... 😂...
one of these days man, one of these days.
+1
@@a.bloke2.0alwayslearning.23 wtf are you babbling about? Are their comments in here I can’t see or something or did you post that under the wrong comment?
Kapow!
@@IAMElectric369 Doesn't matter.
You would not understand as evinced by the evidence that you CAN'T understand.
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@@a.bloke2.0alwayslearning.23 you don’t know a thing about me. How very narcissistic and shallow of you. What an amazing soul you are. Not.
Gravity momentum and attraction all need to be considered.
I would love to see a diagram of the pole orientation on both this and the circular one as it would help with some ideas I have.
I probably should have covered that in the video. The original video that I provided the link to covers that in detail. The north poles of the magnets are facing to one side of the wheel and the south poles are facing the other side. On the track, the poles of the magnets are facing north toward the opening of the track and south toward the opening on the opposite side of the track.
@@Motionmagnetics hi. out of topic but just want to ask, have you tried using hydraulic jack? to lift heavy object using less force.
@@randompvp3266 I have not, but I've experimented with pulleys and levers.
Think of a train circle track, with magnets at both sides like you place those tracks. And the rotation of each magnet changes based on where the wheel (via spring or liquid), so its essentially a self-reinforcing maglev slingshot.
As you explained, you can arrange magnets to get a slingshot effect, however it basically has a boundary you need to cross first. The general idea now is to have enough inertia/momentum to easily overcome this. Once you got that, you enter the slingshot area again, also gaining inertia/momentum again. But somehow I think it's still not that easy
If all of the most brillant minds in the world have failed to achieve this, I doubt that a youtuber with a 3d printer will succeed.
Nikola Tesla achieved it and we buried it
@@ljeanabldr not possible to achieve the impossible
I wouldn't say there's no noticable slowing, 4:00, which there is, but rather that, although the disc slows, the effects of inertia and momentum, are able to overcome the repulsion, thereby resulting in continuous motion.
This has to be one of the most promising methods I've seen, and it would be awesome if you two could collaborate, to ultimately achieve the efficiency that eludes everyone thus far... With money and materials as no object, I believe y'all may be on the right track...
Good point. Some of the wheels did slow, while others didn't noticeably seem to. I tested 5 or 6 sizes and orientations and spliced all the clips together. We have discussed collaborating. I would like to see his design work.
@@Motionmagneticsaybe try tilting the magnets or angle them in a way would help. also 6:24 the magnets in the flywheel should be in a 🌀 spiral shape this would help the consistently of inertia I believe
@@Motionmagneticsyeah I would try a V shape or a spiral shape of magnets in the inside the flywheel
What if you started with a partiality complete circle track and then close the circle after the wheel starts moving? Responding to the 4:50 minute mark.
This design has to have a certain precision to work properly, so it's tricky to tweak it without causing it to lose functionality.
Could you use an electromagnet to increase the speed of the rolling device
Beginning at 4:38, where the mass takes off real fast, isn’t that it? Keeping up with the moment when while getting a boost from the past?
No. He has to place the roller past the repulsion at the entrance of the track to get that effect. It's similar to how a spring works. If he slowly pushed the wheeled roller toward the beginning of his track it would try to push it away until he reached a certain point past the edge or opening of the track.
@@Motionmagnetics
Ok. But what if the angled mags were in a circle?
@@TheWorldBelow360 It would cog and not complete a full rotation because you would lose the spring effect once the track lost its exit and entry points that cause the effect.
@@Motionmagnetics
So if the circle is complete, the wheeled roller would lose its moments of impetus, that being both repulsion and attraction. Or impulsion, which apparently is a word.
@@TheWorldBelow360 In the current configuration that I featured in the video, yes.
Has anyone mentioned that you are trying to make a perpetual motion machine?
Use aluminum shielding/obscuring to the magnetic or field induction.
I know this is a long shot but, I'm curious. Laugh if you will but, I'm wondering if you spaced the magnets, according to the 12 notes of the music scale on a piano, what happens! Like A to A sharp being 1/2 step, A to B being 1 whole step, and then B to C not having a 1/2 interval or sharp/flat, continuing from C to D being a whole with a 1/2 interval of C# in between the C & D and the same from D to E but E to F having no 1/2 interval. Or for simplicity purposes just space them like the black keys are spaced from the white keys of the piano! Who knows what would occur!
I have no idea. Interesting thought though.
Very nice work
Thanks!
Job well done Motion Magnetics. Just want to mention that NEO magnets are not accurately checked or labeled for magnetic strength. The magnets that are correctly labeled cost twice as much. Good day and Happy Easter too.
Thank you. Yes, I recently ordered some Neodymium Magnets from China that were not only NOT the pull force that they were listed as but were the wrong size as well. Best to test each one individually when precision is required.
Happy Easter to you.
@@Motionmagnetics I already have had delivered the wrong strength and the wrong N S location index. This throw off my experiment and set me back way to long in time too. Also, the nickel plating just peed off. Just so you know MM the epoxy coatings are way better than the plate for strength and durability.
Good day Sir too.
@@victoryfirst2878 Good to know. Thanks!
You should make the track into a loop and see how it goes.
Conch cell shape but with magnets in inner shell pockets on top of magnets to recycle energy..four inches apart
Well the system doesn't offer enough thrust. You'd get better results using a liquid conductive material like suspended aluminum. The magnets are controlled with diodes, so you control the balance you get with permanent magnets. The power only flows in one direction. Yes it requires electric magnet coils spaced to deliver a strong pull, with a weak pull back because of the liquid material resistance. You actually gain thrust. The liquid material moves though a pipe (plastic or glass) that has a design narrow to wide. Wide is like a thick piece of aluminum, and narrow has limited conductive ability. The diodes control the whole system, and the speed of flow could reach hundreds of miles an hour. To convert the flow into thrust the liquid pushes into the narrow sections of pipe, and has almost nothing as it expands into the wide sections pushing back. At the end of the flow pipe it has to lift a spring valve to keep the flow continuing. This also transfers into thrust. Aluminum car lift an electric train. So it's going to deliver some strong thrust.
I really know nothing about any of this stuff but I noticed you saying that in your original designs for the track you experimented with symmetrical distances between the magnets and that this led to the problem of having to break the magnetic field of the next cluster using the momentum from the previous one. I notice that the arrangement of the magnets even tho its 5mm to 10mm to 15mm this seems to only go in one directions around the track (meaning on the track at 7:38 for example, two magnets are always closer together on the left with a third slightly farther apart magnet afterwards). Is it possible that there is an irregular sequence of distances between each magnet that may seem haphazard on initial inspection but based on mathematical calculations propel the object from any point in the track from either direction? It seems like the current design is still symmetrical to me
Perhaps using a different spacing on multiple magnets within the rotor in a fashion where some number (1 or more ) radiate from the center out to the periphery will create the imbalance needed to facilitate, in this case, rotation along with the gap between the magnets on the stator.. tanks for your vids and research…
How about adding another track above the disk. With offset timing to stabilize delta velocity. In the ring format the disks would be sandwiched between an inner and outer band. Like the race housing for a ball-bearing casset. Why stop there.? You could stack multiple cassets and tune them in phase to drive the delta constant. Replace the disk with a cylinder that runs the full height of the outer drum, or stack the cassets in different size configurations like a cone, hour-glass etc. Possibly driving through several phase issues in one "direct drive" platform. Pros and cons; multi drive levers for funky housing shapes VS one static sprocket lever for compounding torque; all to the main center* drive shaft of course.
Those other ideas some people had are pretty darn genius. Like the square or triangle yoke to encase the planet gears, sorta like inside a rotary engine.! Genius. And moreso the other one where they suggest tipping the track in a rocking coin motion. Creating a wave function like a gravity engine. Perpetual fountain gravity funnel.. 😂 sht is genius.! Don't forget about friction, the shaft that funnel wobbles around could quantize levels of heat we'd need to measure in Hawkins. 😂 actually I think that system might fail at harmonic resonance. The wave dipole space-time dimple would collapse from the extra heat dispersal while in tuned phase. Dropping back into the wake of C. Mass begets gravity, begets mass, x(Pi3)2 after all. IOW the coin will always settle to flatten out, seeking rest from the wave function farting out energy @ resonance like coronal mass ejections. Lol
Ight angle on magnets will help push or pull off the centre line
Is it possible to build a track over a track, to make propulsion faster?
The figuration using magnetic coils firing and charging in a reasonateable control frequency with mercury fluid dynamics bearings and you got something
What if you dropped the rotor into spinning position as an alternative to the beginning of the track?
I don't know. Haven't tried that.
i had a thought, the basic idea is to use multiple electromagnets /coils to drag the focused unit around a track by pulsing each...also to optimise the power utilise, the flux field (generated by the field collapse as it's switched off/on) could be directed by diodes to prepare consecutive coils for the pending pulse. Optimally efficiency it would operate in a vacuum enclosure. One potential candidate instead of reinventing the wheel pun, is to repurpose an LG smart drive motor which is inherently preconfigured already and possibly useful for this concept being based on multiple coils in series.
The intent of this project was to build a track that could propel a wheel along a track over a great distance using only permanent magnets.
Ever look into the Earl Efect Generator?
Motionmagnetics, You talked about using momentum and inertia for get past the sticky points. Have you considered using a configuration that would take advantage of leverage in order to help gain more advantage in getting past the sticky points? Years ago I toyed around with perpetual motion ideas. Yours as well as many others' channels got subscribed to and I am always watching new videos to see how people are doing. The one thing I don't see people who get close is then taking the next step and using leverage somehow to make it successful.
Yes, I've been looking at leverage and other forms of mechanical advantage lately. I plan on sharing some new ideas I have once I have built and tested them.
@@Motionmagnetics Another suggestion if you are interested in trying it. When I was messing around with my magnets I found that 2 magnets can pass closely by when they are perpendicular to each other. Let me see if I can describe what I mean...
I had a magnet that was N/S on the flat surfaces. I took another just like it, but ran the thinner edge across the flat edge (either pole works). The magnet on edge wanted to rotate to align S to N with the flat magnet. There was no force impeding me sliding the magnet ALONG the flat magnet.
So my thought was that you could use the attractive force of the magnets to pull together (by not having they lined up in a neutral position) and then using leverage tilt the end-on magnet just a little until it reaches that neutral position and let it slide by from it's momentum. Since I don't have a 3d printer I could not set up something to make this setup, so I could not check if it would work. If you can't figure out what I'm trying to explain, let me know and I can reach out in an email or something and send a picture or diagram.
@@ronrothrock7116 I'm not positive, but I think I've experimented with a similar configuration? You might present the idea in a video with a diagram to further clarify it? The more ideas we put out there, the more minds there are to explore and expound upon those ideas.
Is it possible to build a truck over a track, to make propulsion faster?
Great video.
Btw, your onboard sound has an aweful interference in the background. That's normal, you might want to get some sort of sound-card.
How about this..... Same concept but with cavity with a media inside copper bb's, mercury, or something along that line that could help ignore the negative force and countering the imbalance
Fyi. The magnetic force of attraction exactly equals the magnets force of repulsion. Yherefore, no work can be done with magnets alone. One can extract energy from a magnet, but it would be less than the energy used to make the magnet in the first place, and very little at that. Then you no longer have a magnet. Any device claiming to extract energy from a magnet that runs more than a few seconds is fake. One cannot make a motor turn indefinitely with magnets alone. Energy must be added in order to get energy out, and it's always less than what was put in. Always.
Yea we know... were exploring the horizon looking for new things we don't, know. That's how the forefathers got us to where we're at now. So let's continue to scour for any clues that may have been missed.. Einstein himself said emc2 "isn't complete",,, right...?😏
@@kerstanpark2629 just don't claim something works when it doesn't. We don't need another "hidden technologies" :)
Back in the 90s we used to call this the THOMY device.
Add intelligence into the wheel with a microcomputer and some electromagnets...this should smooth out the roll and create acceleration, slowing or stopping. You'll need to protect the circuitry from the magnetic fields and ground out the eddy currents through the track to a common ground. This could all be networked into a series of wheels to a bank of backup computers on board the main vehicle so that motion can be overridden in the case of wheel failure. Or the computer can be placed aboard the vehicle and the wheel electromagnets can be timed since those electromagnets would/could be symmetrically placed.
What if we start at the middle of the track but with full momentum? What happens if we use a spring or something to store the initial energy to burst fire some momentum in the wheel?
It will exit the track, but that won't work if you convert it to a rotary track in this configuration. To use a spring you'd have to put in as much energy to compress the spring as you'd get out of it. Nice thought though. Thanks.
Have you tried allowing the bottom tack to move at the same time in opposite direction ? The
I have not.
That can work for a generator with magnet...or thw spinning magnets creates its own poles with it pushes itself and repel form one end to other
Amazing content! Thank you for sharing!
I wonder if you have any plan to experiment with pendulums and magnets? Milkovic two stage oscillators are super interesting! In my attempt to make an analog of Tesla's TMT with a wind powered Milkovic oscillator i got some very interesting results.
Possibly. I was looking into escapements and that led to designing a series of gears that could be turned by use of weights, and that led me to start designing a gravity generator.
@@Motionmagnetics Thank you! Yes, escapements are interesting too. I think pendulums are the best mechanical analogy for Tesla's electrostatic oscillators. Similar like is water for electricity, so called electronic-hydraulic analogy. Do you remember a toy from 70's so called 'clackers'? That would be interesting to try with magnets! & magnetic Jojo would be interesting to try too!:)
@@oxiigen They might be, and yes I do. That's a blast from the past. I imagine they would work more like springs as they would start to repel once they were in close proximity to each other rather than just bouncing off upon impact.
@@Motionmagnetics Right, magnetic clackers should use rigid rods instead of ropes and rotation limited to one axis only, that should work. And magnets should be strong enough to avoid direct impact because of damage i guess. Magnets are so fun!
@@oxiigen That sounds about right. Aren't they though?
That clip of the hexagon magnets was convincing of actual perpetual motion because the device above it accelerated. But there's no such thing as free energy beyond simply lifting a little above gravity - forever, right?
It's not really doing what it appears to be doing.
What if you made the track circular?
U need to use negative feed, on outside of a flying saucer, so it doesn't ark. So same with this. But U need to to three big coils top middle and bottom. Or two same size as your magnet setup, and run magnet frequency vibration using spectra spinning magnets not the iron core moving, it's opposite is best always
could the principles apply in a ring?
Why not use an electro magnet to energize it self to propel energy around. Gaining energy and speed from its on propulsion.
If you could get upward motion that is one possible goal that could change the technology. If you prove that, next you want to use balls.
What if you shift, out of alignment, the opposite sides of the track?
Give it a try and post your results. It would be good to see more people working together to find the best solution, and it might inspire others to try.
What about a figure 8?
What if you heated the repulsion side of the first magnet at each array? If you could heat only one side of that magnet i think it will retain propulsion and limit repulsion.
What about a verticle loop instead of horizontal. Like a hotwheels loop
And then the loop track could be on a wheel. So like if your wheel was the hamster, and the track was the hamster wheel
@@David_Mash Interesting idea. Brings to mind a planetary gear type of assembly.
Try electromagnets and the rotating magnetic field. Should become a breakthrough technology, since no one ever invented something like that.
Can you have a swing arm which actuates a lift of some type from a circle of magnets lifting always the lead magnet or magnets at all times by the special shape of the swing arm which cannot fail to lift or pop up only the lead magnets as the arm and it's magnet follow until you manually stop or brake the system
I think I'd have to see a 3D model of that.
What about putting the track on the inner/outer face of the ring. Then have the wheel/wheels revolve like planetary gears, rolling around the track to torque the cranks driving the center shaft. You could split/double the rings and have the crank levers run in between so the wheel can be rail centered on the track and maybe add teeth to keep the force timing alignment consistent. The addition of the gear teeth and at least a second wheel should help overcome the remainder difference from pi. Like having multiple cylinders helps overcome TDC. Also more friction though. Maybe initial enertia can have thermodynamics shove it up its wormhole, after all...
Or maybe have it drive the shaft with a magneticly locked drum, like a torque converter. That would need a specific weight reduction design though.
Ehh, food for thought.
I think that might introduce too much friction, but I love the idea of setting the track up like planetary gears.
@@Motionmagnetics
I know right.!? First and foremost; friction... time÷motion makes energy get swept away down relativity river with even the tinyest bit of mass interaction, before even getting to physical contact.. Might as well be an inverted slope for all practical purposes. But then there wouldn't be light. Lol. Entropy is a frigid succubus we can't live without. Haha, hey what if you chill the magnets with nitro halfway to supercon but still far from coupling. There would still be the the clearance/suspension issue to resolve though. Between the track, gears and now possibly side rails unless you could get em to lock just right at some critical apex temp or something. Thats a pretty big R.D jump for a hobby prototype though:: 2(x3)d... and then is it really net + with the nitro factored. What about renewable supplements for the cryogenic overhead. Or whatever entropy factor for that matter? Heck energize the plates with a renewable source and turn it into a kinetic turbune. But then were back to heat. round we go... 😆 power plant hybrid combos. Why don't the nuke plants use the excess heat for other applications more prolifically, already; is the question.
Oh btw, instead of repeating uniformity, each cluster should be graduated from the last by the successive increasing factor of 1 of the dirivitives of the aforementioned sums , like specificly calculated random 😉
The key may be in using electromagnets in the areas that cause the motion to stop, have a computer turn off the magnets at that time so the mover can get past that location, in fact, I'm not sure about the energy usage, but using all computer controlled electromagnets you can possibly create more energy than is used to charge the electro magnets... if it takes as much energy to move as it does to charge or more then this concept won't work then the electro magnets just in the areas of magnetic resistance might work and permanent magnets elsewhere. I think that by using the pendulum concept of just pushing it a little more each time with a weak electromagnet that you can build up power. But I haven't thought about this, but I've always known there is something to the magnets that we haven't discovered and I believe that it's a known but hidden secret.
You could build it that way, but all you'd be doing is making an electric motor.
Might a circular version be hampered by some unseen flux that should not be looped? If 4 meters straights works, it's hard to explain why a circle well over a meter in diameter wouldn't.
Some of that was addressed in the latest video that the inventor of this configuration posted in his latest video. You can find the link to his original video in the description, then just click on his latest video from his channel.
When you know Maxwell they said poles atracct and repulsed poles but when you can provides a simple constant and said when one pole toutchy other the fields unitted but when it's the same if the pole is too large them unitted for then repels and ocurrs the same in other polarity, when you known FOCOULT he said when the propagation in serie is confluence the force increasing with ferromanetic presence, and when you meet Lorentz he said the force of electricity can convert to other force that is magnetism, in my own planification I sopoused that a magnet carry is constant energy in flux so I when you had a magnet intervention you must to put first the pole attract and then inertia and pole repels do the rest but not the resistance of flux is the bearing you also can do it if you put a magnetic bearing and then the flux also you can put inside is a powerfull army doing things like attract and repels but instead a force in back returns of line mode angle of 180° had the earth and the fem in motion but instead don't case fem in motion that are North to South poles think in allineated with the earth then put a instead the fem direction don't flux with the arm and also you hadding a better flux then instead the arm have to had 32 poles up and 32 instead secuenciary 32 and 32 is 64 magnets put instead 57 in section into that then 9 into the plate of 57 repels your wheel of 16 poles
the power of magnets is amazing...like in yang!
I wonder if u get a small electric motor to turn a water vortex setup the vortex like a cluth on a car to see how much the water vortex flywheel can move a car
Use magnetic with copper coils placed in a geometric pattern u gota find a specific pattern that works tho
Just look at Tesla's invention. The alternator.
Have u ever heard of David LaPoint Array? It should be good for the linear motion you are searching for
Yes. I've looked at his Array. I have 3D models of it and plan on doing a video about it at some point.
I have a track design that runs off of weight wanting to roll downhill, both to the right and the left inside the track. I believe it will keep running on it's own, but i don't have the means to build it. If you would like to build one, i would be happy to let you have the plans for it. I don't want anything in return, i literally just want to see if it works.
If you have the time, Shoot a short video with still shots of your plans. I'd be happy to take a look and you might find yourself inspiring people to give it a try if they find your idea compelling.
@@Motionmagnetics The tucking power Top doesn't really need a detailed drawing. It's the 3rd design i'm sharing that uses attraction only, and i don't think it will keep running, but will provide pure raw torque and propulsion with Zero sticky points.
It's simply magnetic slats that are attracted to each other at all times, than can slide in towards the center of the top towards each other, and slide out away from the center of the top until they hit stops. So you spin the Top up manually fast enough where the Slats are forced all the way out hitting the stops. Centrifugal force is keeping the slats away from the center of the Top because you are manually spinning the Top up real fast. Now let go, stop manually spinning it.......as the Top slows down, now the Slats magnetically attracted to each other start tucking themselves in towards the center of the Top, which of course makes the Top spin Faster...just like an Ice Skater Tucking their arms in.
@@dr.davidbannerf.e.s.6217 It's an interesting idea.
Hey man you should do another experiment using electricity. There’s lots being created with your track maybe you can bank it in capacitors and use electromagnets to make it more efficient.
That's been suggested a few times. The idea was to cycle movement without electrical input. Electrical input would, however, make things more interesting.
Bro it has to be a way you can force magnets off of the ground using another one in some form it has to be a way
I think it is something to do with the three body problem.
Adding a "tri-pole" magnet into the configuration might solve your problems. There's a few you tube videos on tri-pole magnets. There are ones that repel both + and = as well as attract both polarities.
I'm sure that would get some different results.
Excellent concept & video. I am loving it. Thank you. just a suggestion .. try putting a neutral track (no magnets) before and after the entry/exit. My understanding is that the circular wheel will not enter the magnetized portion. And also .. after completing its journey (if at all it does) to the magnetic edge it may continue forward. But will roll back after traveling 6 to 8 inches.
Can both entry and exit be accomplished by adding a weight to the circular wheel. Basically im-balancing it at the point of entry and exit. The weight should force the wheel to enter the magnetic track. Additionally the weight should also force the wheel out of the magnetic system. The trick would be to have just the right length of the track. So the wheel escapes the magnets with the additional gravitational force. Provided by the extra weight on the wheel.
Also just a thought. Obviously using a another magnet for the extra weight would not be a good idea. Because of interference with the magnetic flux on the track. Similarly using heavy metal weights like iron/copper/lead will also be counter productive. Because of eddies (and magnetic forces) created by motion. Something neutral like stone would be excellent.
Shall be eagerly waiting to hear your comments. Thank you. Blessings & Warm Regards.
Thanks. It's really just my review of another RUclips creator's work. You have to push the wheel into the field, but it will exit the track even if you add an extra track without magnets.
You can use weight to force it into the track, but that can also cause drag as you exit. The trick is to try to keep it imbalanced.
Stone is not a bad idea.
Thanks for the kind words.
@@Motionmagnetics Sweet! Thank you for your quick response.
What if all the magnets could be adjusted inside a wheel from a fly by wire system on handle bar.
Put a 2l soda bottle on top with it full of water and golf balls try 3 or 2 and see if it increases the speed with the water vortex the gulf balls make,i heard a water vortex can increase speed x6 like a flywheel but lighter and better
Can you do this in a circular track?
We're working on it.
@Motionmagnetics I think you're missing the giant elephant in the room... Why would expect a 3D result from a 2D design? The forces will push/pull the rotor through the stator axially. Love your work btw 😘 I've watched you for years
What if we tried spiral path?
That would be interesting.
If only we could get that magnet in the right way, or get a bigger magnet, heck, let's even call the Tube Bar and see if the Hallgalikeakick guy is in?
Hey mate, long time sub and really enjoy your videos. Just jumped over to rumble and wanted to confirm that you only have 3 videos over there? Or have I somehow gone to some spook site haha? Please let me know so I can sub to the right channel. Cheers
Thank you. Yes, that's the one. It's really six videos, as I remastered my 3 part series on the types of magnetic motors into one video and combined the 2 videos I did on validating a magnetic motor. I intend to put more content up there later, but it will also serve as a backup in case I ever need to recreate this channel.
@@Motionmagnetics perfect just wanted to check in mate 👍🏻
Keep them coming mate, it’s nice to keep the brain ticking and thinking about new possibilities 👍🏻
Whats always weird about this Design, is the sightings of a similar wheel in space.
if you are still doing experiments i have a pretty good idea that you may want to try if i can get in contact with you i can explain it, its very simple wont take much to be made
Oh, and yes, metal is your worst enemy, at least as long as you're not harvesting these eddy currents. Ball bearings also increase their friction drastically when introduced to magnetic fields. So you definitely have to use full! ceramic bearings.
So are you saying you could build roads like this and as long as you had a small motor to build speed you can then turn it of and roll the full length of the road massively reducing costs and carbon
in the words of Homer Simpson, trying is the first step on the path to failure. 😂
Energy is an abstract reality.
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It's not Mylow again is it
I'm going through my recommended videos and I come across some random channel claiming perpetual motion from permanent magnets called motoflux. Out of sheer curiosity I looked them up and while they themselves don't claim it's perpetual (and specifically state perpetual motion is impossible), they do claim it's a motor that uses only laminated ferromagnets and permanent magnets. Not only that, but they claim to have a patent, and that the torque output of the motor is much greater than the torque input. I wouldn't mind a 3rd party looking into it. Lol
I think we'd all like that. lol
They've been saying that for years though... All have proven bogus, so far... well have to see it in action to believe it. Right.?😏
@@kerstanpark2629 I would definitely have to see it.
@@kerstanpark2629 yeah it's literally just a magnetic torque converter. That's why they emphasized heavily on the greater torque output.
Hello, I have seen a number of your videos on RUclips. I have 2 questions; (1)Did you manage to measure the torque (in case of a working rotary permanent magnet motor) or the thrust (in case of a working linear permanent magnet motor)? (2)what was the total mass of the system (rotary or linear) that corresponds to that torque/thrust? Regards, Sam ps, I do design electric motors and if the torque/thrust mass density of these permanent magnet motors is high/low you might start/cancel my journey with these permanent-magnet motors.
I emplore u to try this... ive spent years investigating PI and PHI as linear equations, to which ALL things are governed by universal constants... i believe the "spacing of the magnets IS the key to overcome the inertia... the problem is the numbers... reproduce using all increments of PI and PHI 😊ex. 3.141 ÷2 = 1.57 , 1.618÷2= .80 , 1.618 -1.57 = .048 , 3.14- 1.618= 1.52...etc... hopefully u see without me going through all, that any spacing can be had from tiny to large by mixing,/+/- these numbers and incorporating / substituting for your sequences.... the right combination should lead to a result neither of us can imagine 🤔...esp. if making circle tracks, seems almost blaphamous to not include PI haha 😊 hope this is the answer 🙏
Хорошая работа. Будем решать задачу дальше.
Thanks! That's the best way to solve it.
Didn't Tesla (the scientist not the car) have a gizmo like this?
The alternator
cool!
I want magnetic gravity powered robots and I want them NOW!
do s.e.g generators work?