Pumping Water Without Blades - Magnetic Pumps - Future of Propulsion?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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Magnetic water pumps with no moving parts recently took the internet by storm with multi-million-view RUclips videos showing you how to build one at home. While most of those videos are fake, MHD isn’t. It’s a very real field of physics, and its applications are super surprising. So how do they work and what might they allow us to do? Let's figure this out together!
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Hydrogen would be my favorite fuel.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the movie, "The Hunt for Red October"...
I am absolutely disgusted that you can say your electricity consumption averages 1.8kW 24hrs a day, 30 days a month, without any sign of guilt on your face.
I have NEVER in the 53 years of my life used more than 60kWhr a month for a house and engineering shop combined.
Even if you drive a battery EV you would need to drive 5hrs per day to consume that much if its any kind of efficient.
I operate a cruising yacht with all systems including electric Auxiliary, and tender, with two crew, and we usually require far less than half a kilowatt hour per day of solar generation.
Stop pushing for exponential growth of consumption and screwing the planet with your pathological obsessions with compensation for you inadequacies by excessive displays of obscene extravagance and disposable consumer culture.! 😝
I think you said "Megawatt" where you meant "Kilowatt?"
I can understand you don't w
LK99 is a bust now isn't it?
Yeah, sadly it is.
Link?
Tis the reports they were citing are over 14 years old and been disproven multiple times its a good dream and maybe a reality someday. I think it's because the tech industries know how revolutionary a material like lk99 would be and they want to promote interest in the topic as much as possible
It always was...
Plug, plug, and plug away.
I've been fascinated with MHD since seeing The Hunt for Red October as a kid. I've seen action lab type experiments but no one ever went into depth about the shortcomings.
Acton Lab did.
The CONDUCTIVITY of the fluid is crucial. While MHD is useful for some fluids like liquid metals or molten salts, even seawater is a bit sketchy. And you can pretty much forget using MHD pumps for salt-free freshwater.
But as always, there could be a place for this, and your videos are great as always.
Would it be possible to add something to the fluids that don't work well which you can 100% filter out afterwards, if needed, that could solve the problem?
Was thinking if was run in reverse could generate tidal power without turbines maybe
If you use MHD to pump seawater up hill then the inverse rule for Physics states seawater running downhill will create a current...
I hope Ricky doesn't get his heart broken by that room temperature super conductor. I heard very pessimistic comments on it.
Why not just transfer the kinetic energy from one fluid to another like a turbo does in an engine?
"Red October" Anyone? Literally the fist thing I though of when I heard MHD. So Clancy got it right! ;-)
Wasn't it called a worm drive?
My first thought was Konpeki no Kantai/Deep Blue Fleet.
@@norme1850 A Caterpillar drive in Clancy's book.
Definitely interested in more MHD coverage. It’s a fascinating technology.
I’m also interested in alternative conductor materials. A material as ductile as copper but with half the resistance for a similar cost would have a massive impact. If we can find one…
Was this the “silent drive” utilized by an advanced tech Soviet military submarine in that movie 🎥 THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER
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God that cold war crap🥱
Yes
I would like to have seen Montana ☹
Yes
Yes. And some of the dialogue indicates that, in the mid-Eighties (the period of the story and film), they would have been using liquid helium to cool superconductors.
"I have to find out what's wrong first! It could be a problem with the liquid helium or even the superconductors!" - Capt. 2nd Rank Melekhin, chief engineer
And of course in that era, if it had been well-enough developed, only a nuclear-powered ballistic-missile submarine could have afforded the power requirements. Then again, the very mission of a "boomer" requires that kind of silence, so I can well believe that the Soviet Navy of that era - or the Russian Navy today - would invest in that kind of project. Those Russians love to build 'em big, and even today they build the deepest-diving submarines in the oceans today.
I've seen no report - yet - that the Russians have built a boomer, or a fast-attack, with an MHD drive. But the Japanese never stopped experimenting with it, and I believe they built an experimental submarine.
Thank you for tying the recent super conductor with MHD. I instantly wondered about the connection. Please keep exploring all the possibilities such break throughs offer. Mankind (and me) need the hope.
I really hope you mention the fact that it only works if you have an ionic solution, and you need a LOT of dissolved ions to be able to make these even slightly efficient, even ocean water doesn't have enough to make this a very efficient pump.
It's specified
I LOVE this channel. Its one of my top science related channels. Its a great place to get the basics of a complex new tech and still have details for the tech geeks.
you just made my day :) thank you for the kind words!
@@TwoBitDaVinci No, Thank you for this channel. I sub to many science channels and yours is the channel I share with non science types to share my love of science. Other channels are more technical or How-to style, and those are great but sometimes you need a channel that specializes explaining things in a way that focuses on the basic understanding of something, and why something is important vs getting nerdy. You channel makes science more accessible to everyone and not just engineering geeks and science lovers. You channel is one of the few channels me (science nerd) and my wife (non science nerd) can check out during breakfast and both enjoy the knowledge dump. Keep on with what you are doing. Thank you again!
This was the technology used in the movie "The Hunt for Red October". You might be interested that a stream of water can be deflected by an electrostatic charge. I've often thought that this effect could be used to separate fresh water from salt water because only freshwater water molecules are attracted.
The hydrogen bubbles produced by the MHD if run through a fuel cell gives freshwater and energy...
Yes I'm aware of that it's a great piece of tech
Huh! Interesting… 🤔
I’ve always been fascinated by the separation of hydrogen from oxygen by using electricity. And when you burn the hydrogen and it mixes with oxygen we get polluted with water bahahaha
Imagine if we lived in a world that wasn’t motivated by greed? But Humans are truly retarded.
Watch the movie “Idiocracy” this is literally 💯 the way we are heading until we go extinct. Good riddance!!!
RUclipsrs should always pay homage to great sci-fi of the past!
Sean Connery: "I will take a Penis Mightier for $500 Alex"
As sea-water is conductive; would MHD generators be able to generate power anywhere in the coast? Yes an MHD propulsion video would be very cool to watch.
It also sounds like it moves the upper limit for speed. Just as ion thrusters could accelerate spacecrafts to really high velocities higher than conventional engines. Could a long enough magnetic pump increase a fluid to super high velocities? Could a long enough one create a negative pressure such would "stretch" a liquid into a gas?
Unfortunately, it appears the room temp superconductors looks like it is going to be a bust. The search continues though
i concur
I think we'll get some research out of it and new understanding, will it change the world in short or medium term, not that much, if at all.
Don't need superconducting electromagnets for decent MHD drives anyways, so once it comes it can be an efficiency boost, until then there are solvable solutions.
The efficiency increase is very interesting. Further, the 'no moving parts' is intriguing. However, where pressure is high, the exit points of the fluid will eventually show wear and should for designed to ease maintenance and repair.
I'd definitely watch a full video on planes using MHD!
Long time watcher, hardly a commentator...
About the propulsion part, spaceships use ion thrusters for some decades now, and this seems a similar technology. The problem with ion thrusters though is that they lack the force needed for takeoff, so this technology seems more suited for in atmosphere flight
Sir, you are absolutely amazing. Very fascinating technology explaining.
Now, everybody's gonna build a "Red October"... Just listen for magma displacements... ;-P
I'm thoroughly excited by all the possible applications of MHD you've talked about here. I look forward to seeing a future of looking up to see plasma powered aircraft exhaust overhead, like it's total sci-fi. I highly recommend the @PlasmaChannel video on designing and testing a table-top scale MHD water thruster!
I'm also curious how an MHD generator would work at the end of a fusion reactor, being a source of superheated plasma.
YES! Please do that in depth episode, would be fabulous...👍
+1
I second this
PLease make another episode about using MHD for rocket thrust, YES PLEASE!!! This is fascinating stuff!
MHD propulsion video - yes please! Gets my vote. Thanks for all your videos Ricky, you take complex tech and make it fun and easy. You are making a difference and many of us love you and your team for it.
Yes. MHD aircraft propulsion video is a must.
At 9:57, the efficiency formula onscreen, 1573/300 doesn't give the result 0.809.. It works only if you go "1 - 300/1573", which is, of course, a different formula. It's the same at 10:10, "1 - 300/3273" gives the right result.
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Yep, I immediately noticed that error. I did know that the higher the temperature difference (or deltaT), the better the efficiency. Maybe the numbers were just shown for illustration purposes, but they really should not be written that way. You need to correct that formula. Otherwise, that was a very interesting video!
Now if that room temperature superconductive material is real (which I really doubt), that would make way for some crazy new technologies.
Thunderf00t posted a critique of your LK-99 video. As expected, it wasn't very kind.
Of course he did ... what a hater
@@Disillusioned_one He also implied Nobel prize In Chemistry winner John B. Goodenough was a scammer. That is rather hateful is doubt there was any truth to it. That is before we delve into his Quran burning.
@roydouce9554 qualified maybe.... I'm just saying it's his whole thing to be a hater it's his niche
@@Disillusioned_one He also implied Nobel prize In Chemistry winner John B. Goodenough was a scammer. That is rather hateful is doubtful there was any truth to it. That is before we delve into his holy book burning or his hard on for that Musk fellow.
super cool stuff! thank you for sharing this!
I am on board with this as long as there are regulations requiring that each power plant equipped with this technology have a 3 story portrait of Sean Connery as Marko Ramius on the outside.
A variant that I've seen used in several applications is MHD flow-meters. Small isolated electrodes inside the pipe, surrounded by a strong electromagnet. As the fluid flows, the electrodes can measure the small voltage generated and signal the velocity of the fluid. Using very sensitive electronics that don't require a lot of current, it works with only weakly conductive fluids. Once you have velocity and known pipe size, the volumetric flow rate is easy to calculate.
Ah yes isolated electrodes, the ground breaking technology that will help us reduce our energy consumption by 100% and save the planet!
membrane pumps are so cheap though and long life. plus bearings on regular pumps can last decades
@@archibibliothekarius2301 saying bros comment sounds made up?! 😂😊
separated electrodes pos neg actuslly will move water but so small amount of force
A flow meter can be turned into a generator anything that spins around and around...
No, I know that a sensor like that can work. Just don't isolate your electrodes if you actually want current flowing through them, otherwise they're pointless.
So like you said, separated is good because otherwise you'd have a short. But isolated is useless @@derrekvanee4567
Lets be honest about what kind of future we're already seeing...
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sounds like *hunt for red October electro hydro dynamic* 😂 LOL the buzz video uses 2 MOTs though talk about watts. bearings are efficient. hho is fun though
Thanks for sharing about the perticular technology 😊
Keep being excited and sharing.
Thanks.
Thanks again for an informative video.
I'd be quite interested in an MHD propulsion system overview
Especially for industrial designs we may not need to wait for a true High Temperature Superconductors, the MIT ARC reactor is using a superconducting ribbon tape which is in current practical use with its fusion reactor design. Isn't it possible to adapt that tape for use in improving the efficiency of current fossil fuel based energy production methods and thus immediately address the level of CO2 production in those power plants, through efficiency gains and thus find that we need fewer new power plants? To be sure that may be true for many other large applications as well, such as, if it were integrated into the propulsion systems of ocean going cargo ships.
LK-99 is not super conductor?
i maybe once saw a demo about dymagnetics: or anti magnet action. water tries move away from a magnet... a little bit. maybe worth looking at
How efficient would be to generate electricity from flowing water using the same setup?
Love your video style. That fake magnetic pump video irritated me as well!
Always so informative your videos Dude 🙂🙏
Yup! This will be the future of propulsion! 👏😄✨ This is good news.
It sounds like it would also avoid the cavitation problems that limit the speeds of propellors.
Technically it does not eliminate them as you could in therory try to pull in water faster than than it can move into your intake and cause cavitation bubbles but as a pratical mater you are correct. Youd have other material stress issues elsewhere if you could pump the water that fast let alone the power generation issues needed to pump that much current and that strong of a magnetic field on anything mobile.
would
Yeah, it's still subject to the same limits. It's not an issue with the prop or the magnet. It's a water issue
Problem with at least of your uses for this pump.
It can't be run Hot because there's magnets involved and you can't run it near a computer chip because Magnetic effecting the chips.
So there's tiny plastic bath toys or submarines.
Wow the future is truly wild and amazing it seems.
@7:57 I'd be _very_ interested in an episode covering magnetic pumps. I'd be specially looking for *_ship_* (or *_submarine_* ) propulsion application.
Can you imagine these as _thrusters_ on a *CyberTruck* as it fords a stream? 🤔🤓👍
If room temperature Superconductor is invented, then this MSD will become economical.
Hello,
Sadly, the chances that the supraconductivity breaktrough is real are very low.
Many scientists and other specialized RUclipsr's (Sabine Hossenfelder or Anton Petrov) are scpetical, with very good arguments.
Anyway, you teached me how the MHD works, so now, we have to wait for room T° conductivity !
Thank You
"The Hunt for Red October" 1990, comes to mind.
Yes same tech
Konpeki no Kantai/Deep Blue Fleet came to my mind.
What about the Nicola's Tesla's pump. No blades or pistons. Can even pass fish through (borderline).
Hmm. The video did gloss over other practical issues. Fast corrosion of the electrodes and unwanted production of gas such as hydrogen or chlorine.
that's a mind blower ... 'specially as you say, in combination with room temp SConductor. Amazing potential. Your enthusiasm is diamonds n gold btw.. don't stop!
I'd like to see another episode with an elaboration on the topic.
I think that, the idea of using it in high heat doesn't hold, the reason is that, magnets don't like heat. That's why magnets work better when, they're cooled.
Hence the excitement about a room temperature superconductive material.
@@flightmaster999 room temperature is an absurdly far cry from 3000K
Thank you for the video. I studied Physics as a major, and don't even hear of this phenomena before. Awesome!!!!
HOW CAN WE GET THE 2 TECHNOLOGIES TO WORK TOGETHER ? AND HOW FAR ARE THEY DOWN THE LINE ? AS i WOULD LIKE TO USE THEM FOR WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT
With sea levels rising why not use a MHD pipeline across the country and if MHD can power a nuclear submarine it can pump alot of sea water uphill. Then use gravity feed turbines downhill you could cascade these over-abundent-unity power plants across the country, because with MHD there is more energy you can harvest.
On the downhill side use the reverse rule in physics applies, which states saltwater running downhill will pick up a charge of its own.
Also you can harvest MHD hydrogen bubbles by running it through a fuel cell.
This could be a totally green system with no harmful byproducts...
Doubt it will replace good ol centrifugals, output per hp is excellent on them
there is tokamaks which use magnetic isolation to fix need o superconductors but probbly wastes lots of energy
Why isn't this applied in generating electricity from ocean waves?
MHD propulsion sounds dope. That video would be interesting
Fresh water is not a horrible conductor. Fresh water will conduct electeicity quite well. Now, if you want to talk about deionized water, you would be correct.
Is it possible to apply magnetohydrodynamics to Nicola Tesla's disc turbine? Or valve
With a room-temperature superconductor, cars wouldn't need batteries. The charge could be stored in the superconductor as current and siphoned off as need. Also regenerative braking is possible, making the cars even more efficient.
Would mhd propulsion eliminate cavitation? I would imagine that the navy would be VERY interested
Fire isn't really ionized or a plasma, it can become so if you put it in a strong electric field, but otherwise it's just neutral and incandescent.
If light and Radio waves is made of the same Electromagnetic waves, what will the antenna length be for light. Will more than one Lambda dish produce energy?
Electroboom has already applied this in practice. You can already guess what the result is.🤣😂
@8:30 Are you telling me it's possible to produce energy from auto exhaust after turbo? Why hasn't anyone done this?
9:56 the equation should be 1 - (300/1573) = 0.8092181... Sorry but 1500 divided by 5 times less can't be point anything nor 0.8
I remember reading about this back in the 90s in a science magazine and was wondering why it wasn't in wide use.
This is one of those technologies that has been one break through away from being practical for many decades, and is likely going to stay that way. If there was a way to make this silent propulsion actually work, even if expensive and not commercially practical, the US Navy would have it on nuclear submarines. They make gobs of electricity and don't care about economics.
Tom Clancy wrote the "Hunt for Red October" which was released in 1984, nearly 40 years ago. One of the major plot points was the USSR having a submarine with a new silent drive called the "tractor". They never used the name MHD, but the description sound very much MHD as a pump that pulls in and expels water with no moving parts.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a video on MHD propulsion!
Great vídeo, very interesting! ✌🏼🤓
Amazing modified pump .
Doesn't take a lot of energy to make heat? So wouldn't that kinda make it moot point?
We can thank Marko Aleksandrovich Ramius for this technology.
Cen you use those pomps in see water witout killing any fish who get to close? Dose it electricade whater geting out from pomp?
This technology starred in a great movie, The Hunt for Red October (1990 Sean Connery).
the plasma channel just started doing experiments with this phenomena
Sound off if you want, but based on the smile at 7:58, you can tell the MHD episode is already in the works
I want a hands-on demonstration of one of the technologies you talked about working.
From what I've seen about the new "Superconductor" is that it is likely not actually a superconductor, as no one has been able to reproduce the results yet
You didn’t use the efficiency equation correctly even though you showed the correct formula. At 9:43 to 10:16 the visuals are incorrect. You use TH/TL instead of 1-TL/TH.
I cant wait for thunderf00t video in response.
It's the "caterpillar drive" from The Hunt for Red October
Technologically, what counts is only what can be introduced en masse, in the real, tangible, visible and perceptible world, not what is on RUclips or LinkedIn or any other Internet portal.
Yes! Please make a video on MHD. Your description of it here lost me.
I think this was part of the plot in The Hunt For Red October.
So, would you say that we're on a Hunt for the Room Temperature Superconductor? Doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "Hunt for the Red October" lol.
haha no it definitely doesnt' but i like it!
FYI: the electromagnetic hydro drive concept was the root base for the famous Tom Clancy novel Hunt for Red October which became a famous movie starring, among others, Sean Connery, Tim Curry, Alec Baldwin
I would not bet on LK99 as a technology for these pumps ;)
Did I miss something, 1573k/300k = 5.25 not .809
Isn't this a form of electrolysis and would therefore generate acid in the sea water.
maybe this will help the fusion process ?
You omitted hyperfast torpedoes and hypersonic missiles in the list of critical techs MHD powers. They allow to partially or maybe completely remove wake by making all the outside of the vehicle into a propeller, literally picking the molecules of air or water in the front and putting them in the back. The Russians seem to have mastered this technology using air as a fluid, despite its high resistivity.
LK-99 has now been disproven, most likely iron contamination that led to the effect, according to Anton Petrova.
mhd propulsion video please!
ok!
isnt the room temp super conducter already more or less proven a scam or fake because no other lab could replicate it so far? with like a dozen having it tried already with the same procedure that they proclaimed to be working?
Yes… we filmed this a week ago… I’ll do a follow up
How r any conceivable superconductors gonna be working with molten tin or salts?