Kpop Groups That Disbanded Without Any Music Show Win

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2025
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    CORRECTION:
    *High4 have won a trophy with their song "Not Spring, Love, or Cherry Blossoms".
    Here I am with a compilation of kpop groups that disbanded without getting any music show wins.
    Music show wins (or first wins) are so important to kpop groups, it has a meaning that if you win one you're getting recognized by the public. Unfortunately some of the groups didn't get any recognition in their long time career and some of them didn't have a chance to having a long time career.
    I included the groups that I know but of course there are much more other groups that we can include in this list too.
    I am sorry in advance for any mistakes.

Комментарии • 6 тыс.

  • @luvsik4403
    @luvsik4403  5 лет назад +8132

    THANK YOU FOR 1 MILLION VIEWS!
    CORRECTION:
    *High4 have won a trophy with their song "Not Spring, Love, or Cherry Blossoms"
    *Rania is preparing to debut with a new line up under a different group name.
    *Cocosori's disbandment date should've been 01 Feb 2019 not 2018.
    *Lastly, Dalshabet is reuniting very soon.

    • @digiworld1989
      @digiworld1989 5 лет назад +161

      Rania disbanded

    • @nayeonn1e
      @nayeonn1e 5 лет назад +118

      luvsik Yeah they had a silent disband, you may want to change the description as well lol

    • @luvsik4403
      @luvsik4403  5 лет назад +44

      @@nayeonn1e sdgsdf thank you i forgot :D

    • @albertosaurio
      @albertosaurio 5 лет назад +35

      Cocosori didn't disband on February 2018, they disbanded at the end of 2018

    • @luvsik4403
      @luvsik4403  5 лет назад +26

      @@albertosaurio and that shouldve been 2019 not 2018 ooff

  • @asareelferrer1439
    @asareelferrer1439 5 лет назад +17426

    Imagine training for years just to disband 4 months after your debut, that’s heartbreaking.

    • @chilligetthejoke2041
      @chilligetthejoke2041 5 лет назад +396

      After get disband are they gonna be normal Korean people ??

    • @chilligetthejoke2041
      @chilligetthejoke2041 5 лет назад +29

      @@og_apple thanks

    • @dennisvillaflor3359
      @dennisvillaflor3359 5 лет назад +388

      Some dont event get to debut.

    • @chilligetthejoke2041
      @chilligetthejoke2041 5 лет назад +167

      @@dennisvillaflor3359 that more pain and waste time

    • @LOHUT
      @LOHUT 5 лет назад +316

      To be fair wasnt Uni.T (the 4mo group) a project group with a limited contracts? the girls have all debuted before so it was more like a revival effort.

  • @tonymaccarony21
    @tonymaccarony21 5 лет назад +2709

    The fact that 9muses lasted 8 years and 6 months without having a single win is really heartbreaking :')

    • @MindlessArianne
      @MindlessArianne 4 года назад +92

      I swear they even had a documentary on Netflix too I believe a while back

    • @tacgnol4977
      @tacgnol4977 4 года назад +14

      Thats what happens when your borderline good

    • @callumthundow3891
      @callumthundow3891 4 года назад +82

      @@tacgnol4977 Around 2012-13 they were doing really well but their company is notoriously shit which led to constant lineup changes that sadly doomed the group

    • @med1na.
      @med1na. 4 года назад

      @@callumthundow3891 *periodt- sis*

    • @zohoro96
      @zohoro96 4 года назад +2

      Mariella Seifert i mean they were just not that talented enough i guess

  • @alexisaspy2429
    @alexisaspy2429 5 лет назад +11234

    9Muses never getting a win should be a crime. They had so many iconic songs. It’s sad that their entertainment didn’t know how to promote nor did they care enough

    • @holeecheng6873
      @holeecheng6873 5 лет назад +265

      What u've commented is d raw truth. So disappointed n feel sad for them after going through so much training n hard work. This trainees deserve a second chance to make their dream come to fruition.

    • @alexisaspy2429
      @alexisaspy2429 5 лет назад +252

      Ho Lee cheng I don’t know if you watched 9muses’ documentary about them debuting but the company didn’t even have faith in them. From the very beginning they doubted 9muses were going to be successful and it upsets me sm that these women had to put up with that kind of negativity

    • @koolhotsweet
      @koolhotsweet 5 лет назад +150

      Wild love or hurt locker were the songs I expected to win at least once

    • @lawrencepola
      @lawrencepola 5 лет назад +100

      Dolls should've been the one to do it. Perfecr balance of funk, sexy, cute and one of Sweetune's best work. One of the better attempts at line distribution for a large group (best would be 'Glue' for sure)

    • @NekoMiki82
      @NekoMiki82 5 лет назад +70

      @@koolhotsweet Hurt Locker is believed to be the best song in it's year but is very underrated too. It was believed the song has such an excellent music compositions.

  • @Vi-wd1rw
    @Vi-wd1rw 4 года назад +1592

    The fact that Just in 2019 80 groups debut, its a lot of competition, and we have the old ones

    • @a_astwood
      @a_astwood 4 года назад +16

      It's true.

    • @jasonmraz3311
      @jasonmraz3311 4 года назад +74

      It's like 1 group each 4.5 days

    • @Vi-wd1rw
      @Vi-wd1rw 4 года назад +46

      @@jasonmraz3311 is pretty insane, all those dreams.....

    • @Liqhtless
      @Liqhtless 4 года назад +2

      30 groups...

    • @summerboggs7334
      @summerboggs7334 4 года назад +55

      @@lmtlss629 you didn't know everglow debuted...? I thought everyone knew about everglow since they are one of the biggest debuts from last year along with itzy, ATEEZ etc

  • @HeyStobItLyricsVideos
    @HeyStobItLyricsVideos 5 лет назад +2866

    The fact that 9muses went ALMOST AWHOLE DECADE WITHOUT GETTING ONE SINGLE WIN MAKES ME UPSETTTTTTT

  • @apple2879
    @apple2879 5 лет назад +5121

    Imagine all the work they put to become an idol and disbanding just after a short period of time should be really frustrating and heartbreaking

    • @yourmahbuddy1580
      @yourmahbuddy1580 5 лет назад +78

      apple2879 and drepessing

    • @light5978
      @light5978 5 лет назад +68

      Life is harsh.. for some ppl

    • @jlvv_1
      @jlvv_1 5 лет назад +117

      The kpop competition is no joke.. Sooo many girlgroups and boybands atm~ Life is harsh..

    • @pinkpink-kb6dl
      @pinkpink-kb6dl 5 лет назад +63

      At least some groups have a win and they can look back and have a bright memory. These groups dont even get that 😭

    • @blinkue8728
      @blinkue8728 5 лет назад +5

      Really is...

  • @rosieesor
    @rosieesor 5 лет назад +2939

    The problem with a lot of these groups not getting a win isn’t that they were bad, it’s that they were up against groups that were better or more popular.

    • @markwithlove
      @markwithlove 5 лет назад +223

      not better other are just popular

    • @zombievomitxd
      @zombievomitxd 5 лет назад +88

      Yeah some of these groups are my favourite, but these groups had potential, but yeah other groups where more popular

    • @natachaquintero1953
      @natachaquintero1953 5 лет назад +93

      You are right. For me al this issue about "wins" is terrible because it is just popularity, and it can destroy a new grupo with the label "no wins".

    • @zombievomitxd
      @zombievomitxd 5 лет назад +8

      @@natachaquintero1953 yeah I agree, I really wish it wasn't like that

    • @meoviona
      @meoviona 5 лет назад +55

      they are still on the stage of potential, not honed skills. stop with this popular group = are worse than groups with potential. they also have talent. don’t spread toxic mentality.

  • @andarellaaa
    @andarellaaa 4 года назад +2074

    What's even more heartbreaking about UNI.T amd UNB is that they came from a survival show called The Unit. A show that aims to give SECOND CHANCE to underrated idols by debuting them again. (They got the inspiration from Nu'est who rose to fame after joining Produce 101 S2 and even the idols that joined the said show set them as their role models) But sadly, the debut stage and group that they worked so hard on just gave them false hope. It is just so sad and frustrating 'cuz they really deserve the fame (w/ their talent, personality and visual)... Nevertheless, I'll always support them.

    • @katiereamy656
      @katiereamy656 4 года назад +26

      Technically 3 of the members of UNB should've tried out for Produce 101. Also Nuest should've tried out for the UNIT. The premise of the UNIT was for older and underrated goups/ idols to get another chance. Chan,Kijoong,and Marco should've tried for PD101. All 3 groups at the time of the UNIT were 3yrs or younger. Nuest should've waited and tried to get on the UNIT. Jun was the epitome of an underrated idol. UKISS has been around since 2008(Jun joined in 2014) they've only 1 won award and that was on a Chinese show. I was glad when he won. Besides UNB and UNI.T were just temporary groups. Most had their own group they were with. They should've never been on this list. Nine Muses yes. I love them. Wondering why their brother group ZE:A wasn't on it oh well.

    • @anonymoushue
      @anonymoushue 4 года назад +42

      If only The Unit could get as much hype as Produce. All Produce groups' debut blew up because there was hype.

    • @aurylian3218
      @aurylian3218 4 года назад +29

      there was a ton of “hype” surrounding the show actually, with rain and all, but it died out as quickly as it started. also KBS didn’t promote it well at all...

    • @romanii1368
      @romanii1368 4 года назад +6

      I loved The Unit, actually was the reason I got into Kpop. But so sad about the outcome 😔 they are so talented, all the guys and girls from The Unit, I really grow to love them ❤️

    • @minminmia7206
      @minminmia7206 4 года назад

      OMG so sad

  • @litzy127
    @litzy127 5 лет назад +4304

    UNB WERE UNDERRATED AND STILL ARE. THEY LITERALLY DESERVED MORE

    • @FrostyAleria
      @FrostyAleria 5 лет назад +18

      They did ;(

    • @shuaberry1609
      @shuaberry1609 5 лет назад +8

      Love your profile picture

    • @sunwoodior
      @sunwoodior 5 лет назад +102

      ADD UP THEIR SISTER GROUP UNI.T OMG- THEY ALL DESERVED MORE

    • @woahleeknow2740
      @woahleeknow2740 5 лет назад +9

      My ult group highly deserved so much better

    • @nmc987
      @nmc987 5 лет назад +1

      Facts

  • @damarisutrera8413
    @damarisutrera8413 5 лет назад +5007

    bruhh the only reason triple h disbanded was cuz edawn found sum luv.

    • @johnlabu1154
      @johnlabu1154 5 лет назад +189

      Is he the one with hyuna?

    • @amie6221
      @amie6221 5 лет назад +75

      yeah disappointing i was a fan of triple h

    • @cedricyu3114
      @cedricyu3114 5 лет назад +4

      PERIOD!

    • @amultifandomtrash2384
      @amultifandomtrash2384 5 лет назад +79

      @@amie6221 what is dissapointing? Is the one that they disband or the one he just found a love? I'm just asking

    • @madmaxfernando
      @madmaxfernando 5 лет назад +1

      Mari Mar wow who wouldthat be

  • @mells2404
    @mells2404 5 лет назад +5529

    To all idols that are listed in this video;
    I'm sorry. From the bottom of my heart. All the tears you've spread as a trainee. All the mental and physical pain you went through. All your depressed days and the sad moments. I am so damn sorry. You've worked so so hard. This is not fair and all of your fans know that. I'm sorry that too many fans weren't able to help. I'm sorry that so much work didn't pay off. I can't imagine how much you actually suffered. And I respect you so much for disbanding with such a sad fact in the neck. The longer you've been trying to become an idol and on stage without the deserved wins... for real, you deserved better.
    And to those idols which debuted again or will debut again; you will get the deserved win one day. And if not, please don't ever feel like a worthless idol. In the end its genuinely just a win and the memories you gave your fans, are way more important. Your fans love and care about you. Please don't give up or let a not existing win ruin your desire to dance, sing or act on the stage. There's more for you in the future. I promise.
    Ya'll are such inspiration. And all of you deserve so much love and respect. I hope each of you understands that. And definitely knows it....

  • @binsyoh196
    @binsyoh196 4 года назад +2354

    still can’t believe triple h didn’t get any win
    edit: thank u for so many likes omg ?

    • @aleeyaqistina7325
      @aleeyaqistina7325 4 года назад +59

      me too im surprised they didnt get any win

    • @katsukikun1184
      @katsukikun1184 4 года назад +5

      Same

    • @AgussxVenus
      @AgussxVenus 4 года назад +4

      THIS

    • @Dayjuly
      @Dayjuly 4 года назад +41

      Yeah and we are talking about the trio more memorable the kpop dude omg i really can't believe 😔

    • @themelati89
      @themelati89 4 года назад +35

      But their sale are not dissapointed at all. As a unit, i think they had a pretty good result.

  • @paulihhh2042
    @paulihhh2042 5 лет назад +1812

    It is sad when a group disbands. Doesn't matter how popular or how long they were around . It's sad

    • @박봄-l2q
      @박봄-l2q 5 лет назад +11

      Pristin is Debuted in 2016 before their song Wee Woo in 2017 after I.O.I disbanded

    • @chynaj7453
      @chynaj7453 5 лет назад +32

      Especially knowing how hard these idols train to debut

    • @vanvan.4667
      @vanvan.4667 5 лет назад +16

      it's because we see hopes and dreams dying aaaaAAAA

    • @mightyobserver12
      @mightyobserver12 5 лет назад +6

      And trained hard for so long

    • @luvlychimmy4680
      @luvlychimmy4680 5 лет назад +5

      Remember *WANNA ONE?*

  • @sour_woodz
    @sour_woodz 5 лет назад +2778

    9 years and not a single win, holy shit-

    • @michaeng4594
      @michaeng4594 5 лет назад +42

      Wait wut group?
      Sorry cuz i was paying attention to the comments 😅

    • @shuying8499
      @shuying8499 5 лет назад +91

      9muses

    • @michaeng4594
      @michaeng4594 5 лет назад +11

      Oh god

    • @DP-mv7ph
      @DP-mv7ph 5 лет назад +41

      That’s depressing

    • @sleeponbednotclc9023
      @sleeponbednotclc9023 5 лет назад +69

      Please support Sera Ryu yt channel she's one of the 9muses members :(

  • @brilianatenriraja
    @brilianatenriraja 5 лет назад +2514

    Pristin - never win in any music show
    Pristin - got rookie award
    WHAT A WASTE OF TALENT 😭

    • @ilovechimchim2713
      @ilovechimchim2713 5 лет назад +41

      Awww.. it must be really hard for them

    • @brilianatenriraja
      @brilianatenriraja 5 лет назад +11

      @@ilovechimchim2713 exact! Omg i'll miss them so much TT

    • @ilovechimchim2713
      @ilovechimchim2713 5 лет назад +22

      @@brilianatenriraja
      They even got an award.. Its a Rookie award.

    • @brilianatenriraja
      @brilianatenriraja 5 лет назад +2

      @@ilovechimchim2713 yeah, thats what i say 😭

    • @scoups8377
      @scoups8377 5 лет назад +22

      Wee Woo, We like, Black Widow, Get it, and dance projectes, I love all. But....

  • @idcifigotohell5470
    @idcifigotohell5470 4 года назад +503

    Pristin: Wins rookie of the year
    Also Pristin: doesn’t get even one music show win
    Ironic huh 😑

    • @ghofranelaouar1164
      @ghofranelaouar1164 4 года назад +9

      If they made a comeback in 2018, they would surely win

    • @haera3688
      @haera3688 10 месяцев назад

      year end award is a scam 😂

  • @mmammg1
    @mmammg1 5 лет назад +1020

    9muses was honestly the saddest case. These poor girls worked hard comeback after comeback, and got nothing to show for it. It breaks my heart that they never got the chanc to experience a win, bur I'm comforted by the fact that all the members are close in real life and still hang out as friends

    • @dt4654
      @dt4654 4 года назад +11

      if you were literally slapped in the face like the poor girl in the documentary, you wouldn't want to even work as their artist.

    • @winry1890
      @winry1890 4 года назад

      @@ShaneFagan wait what omg

    • @AGuyLovesU
      @AGuyLovesU 3 года назад

      @@dt4654 Her name is Ryu Sera (the one who was slapped) Pre-debut leader, Main Vocalist, Center. Check out her RUclips Channel: ruclips.net/user/TheRyuSera

  • @caroline-fy2gi
    @caroline-fy2gi 5 лет назад +2181

    9muses, History, MelodyDay, TheEastLight and The Ark not having any wins is a crime

    • @yandii13
      @yandii13 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah. . . Only on your mind bruh

    • @notyeidy185
      @notyeidy185 5 лет назад +54

      And speed, their choreography was legendary

    • @farisahmad6018
      @farisahmad6018 5 лет назад +32

      Spica also

    • @dyn9415
      @dyn9415 5 лет назад +17

      and pristin too

    • @loonas
      @loonas 5 лет назад +10

      agree + spica

  • @sammwilliams5237
    @sammwilliams5237 5 лет назад +2215

    Wow some them were together for 6 years and 8 years and didn't get one win not one! Kpop is a tough industry!

    • @triggahappyyt5420
      @triggahappyyt5420 5 лет назад +88

      Big bang dominated and it didn't help when they did duos and solos. Then you had 2ne1 and girls generation, exo.. no chance

    • @LoQOpa
      @LoQOpa 5 лет назад +81

      Nah its more if your not the big 3 , most likely you either gonna get your lucky break randomly or never get the recognition til you disband sadly

    • @ailem2707
      @ailem2707 5 лет назад +29

      U-Kiss has been going at it for 11 years and still hasn’t happened (properly)

    • @redegg7653
      @redegg7653 5 лет назад +67

      The only way for a group to gain recognition now is either
      A. Join Survival Shows (recommended is Produce)
      B. One unforgettable fancam
      C. Be a meme
      D. Have a member so handsome/pretty that the group will gain attention just by that member alone
      E. Break norms

    • @cholodanili3274
      @cholodanili3274 5 лет назад +9

      @you're ridiculous And like Nancy and Momoland

  • @darcyvarattre2721
    @darcyvarattre2721 4 года назад +276

    This reminded me of a singer, who debuted in 3 groups. He is now around 30 and has basically trained for nothing since all of the 3 groups failed.
    He was in Roadboyz, BTL and B.Heart.
    B. Heart didn't even last a full year.
    I feel so damn sorry for him.

    • @holy.water.
      @holy.water. 4 года назад +41

      another BTL member ended up almost the exact same way. it’s sad knowing how hard some idols try but just never get lucky enough to be big....

    • @atrapforfools
      @atrapforfools 4 года назад +1

      what’s his name?

    • @darcyvarattre2721
      @darcyvarattre2721 4 года назад +15

      @@atrapforfools In Roadboyz Ha Neul, in BTL Do.Ka, and in B.Heart Tae U. But his real name is Kim Daewoon.

  • @ericksalamanca5024
    @ericksalamanca5024 5 лет назад +1104

    Spica, 9Muses, Fiestar, Bestie, Stellar, Hellovenus and Rania will always be as iconic as their songs. All those talented groups gave us such bops, and of course deserved better.

    • @FawNdhyl
      @FawNdhyl 5 лет назад +2

      Melodyday were so good too tbh! All the groups you mentioned disbanded like few months befote I got into them. Fiestar was my most favourite out of all these groups,I was so sad to see them disband when Cao Lu was getting more exposure and when Yezi is on the rise. Then boom, I saw the news that they disbanded. So sad...

    • @FawNdhyl
      @FawNdhyl 5 лет назад +4

      Also Spica isn' exactly disbanded according to them right? They still have the chance to get back together whenever possibke right? Like EXID and SNSD?

    • @Katfully_foody
      @Katfully_foody 5 лет назад +5

      Wait. Fiestar disbanded ? What happened to yezi and the chinese girl from wgm?

    • @zailanjailaniable
      @zailanjailaniable 5 лет назад +3

      Agree 100%

    • @FawNdhyl
      @FawNdhyl 5 лет назад +3

      @@Katfully_foody I just remembered, Cao Lu signed with another company called IOK, and she is also on Battle Trip a few months back.
      You can follow her insta, @better_me_CaoLu and Yezi @yeziyaziiii
      Idk much about Yezi cause she barely update her insta :(

  • @evie7004
    @evie7004 5 лет назад +672

    It still shocks me to this day that Triple H and Pristin never got a win when all of their songs are bops

  • @jhm2732
    @jhm2732 5 лет назад +1855

    Dal Shabet, 9Muses & Rainbow are just too iconic

    • @blazo9009
      @blazo9009 5 лет назад +60

      So was MelodyDay and Spica, and Fiestar

    • @indikyo5073
      @indikyo5073 5 лет назад +1

      @@blazo9009 They are

    • @jhm2732
      @jhm2732 5 лет назад +37

      @@blazo9009 yes, them too. But these 3 in special probably had the biggest discography and fandom as well... It's surprising considering less popular groups than them got to win

    • @iekha_triples7718
      @iekha_triples7718 5 лет назад +28

      @@jhm2732 yeah specially Rainbow, imagine when you have iconic song like A, To Me, Sweet Dream and Tell Me but never win.

    • @bkzl
      @bkzl 5 лет назад +14

      @@iekha_triples7718 Black Swan was that song just sucks that it was so overlooked 😭

  • @chingsy3985
    @chingsy3985 4 года назад +844

    Most of the groups doesn't have a lot of media exposure and promotions. Most of them came from small companies. This is the hard truth about KPOP Industry. It doesn't matter how hard you try or how talented you are. What matter is where company u belong, unique talents or visual, good promotions, or just a pure luck.

    • @theez.6238
      @theez.6238 4 года назад +37

      I don't think so .it's just they need to work harder I think . For example like Gfriend they also from small company but able to succeed . Many more groups that success and from small company. They key is just to work harder . It's just my opinion

    • @moririn9923
      @moririn9923 4 года назад +27

      @@theez.6238 true though. I used to think that way when I was an early fan for BTS, I also had some doubt. And they worked very hard and produce money to support and promote themselves. So I dont think media exposure and promotions are the only thing.

    • @theez.6238
      @theez.6238 4 года назад +1

      @@moririn9923 yes . Now there are a lot group already that I think started to be well known as result of their hardworks.

    • @stanloona2852
      @stanloona2852 4 года назад +19

      take bighit for example, they almost went bankrupt before bangtan. Now, the entertainment has 3 successful groups and brings in tons of won in South Korea.

    • @user-tz5hu1hp1r
      @user-tz5hu1hp1r 4 года назад +9

      That's why Produce 101 exist, it literally brought Nu'est back and made them more successful than pledis ever could. Unfortunately there's no more Produce

  • @prinzessinazula8660
    @prinzessinazula8660 5 лет назад +3262

    Me the whole video:
    Wait, they already disbanded?

  •  5 лет назад +2109

    Queen by History was THAT song if they’d been more popular they’d have gotten a win for that song for sure

    • @ChOuChIi1
      @ChOuChIi1 5 лет назад +87

      Yeeees ! If they released that song today it would be super popular... what a pity ! I loved them so much

    • @bequemm
      @bequemm 5 лет назад +71

      I wish they didnt disband bc they could've rereleased it like this year bc the song so fucking good.

    • @xDannisaurus
      @xDannisaurus 5 лет назад +22

      that will forever be my jam

    • @ash.613
      @ash.613 5 лет назад +42

      History’s debut song is one of the best debut song ever.. if they kept that style I think they could’ve reached the korean audience that like ballad groups

    • @peachxtaehyung
      @peachxtaehyung 5 лет назад +17

      That AND i might just die

  • @msbubblegum304
    @msbubblegum304 5 лет назад +753

    9muses is the most painful one of all because it was literally bop after bop every comeback but still not enough and I still don't understand why 😢

    • @Em-nu2dt
      @Em-nu2dt 5 лет назад +9

      Mel Azemi 8 years as well, oh my god so long

    • @Maftixa
      @Maftixa 5 лет назад +17

      Mel Azemi I agree. I think them, Spica, and Rainbow consistently came out with catchy songs.

    • @kennethh7881
      @kennethh7881 5 лет назад +5

      They almost got their win with 9muses A but lost by less then 40 points

  • @namikosugans
    @namikosugans 4 года назад +426

    Madtown didn't so much disband as their company destroyed itself around them when the CEO went to prison for embezzlement and they were left to fend for themselves with no money, no staff, not even a place to live. I can't remember which member it was now, but he was still pretty traumatized from the ordeal and said in an article that he never wants to be in kpop ever again and even discouraged other people from trying it. The whole thing was so tragic.

    • @mnbn
      @mnbn 4 года назад +62

      it still breaks my heart how they were forced to be homeless after that. they were living out of other peoples’ houses :(

    • @sen0440
      @sen0440 4 года назад +25

      bruh thats horrible :(

    • @lovearion
      @lovearion 4 года назад +23

      oh my god thats just terrible, i hope theyre happy and doing alright now :(

    • @namikosugans
      @namikosugans 4 года назад +18

      @@lovearion the only one I really know about is Heojun because of his brother Chan (Victon). He posted something on IG about Victon's last comeback in March and nothing since. I also hope he's busy and doing well.

    • @ad4m781
      @ad4m781 4 года назад +9

      Yeah madtown so talent but the company...

  • @nogamenolife1901
    @nogamenolife1901 5 лет назад +320

    I feel like disbanding without getting famous and recognition is more hurtful.

  • @MZNO
    @MZNO 5 лет назад +593

    Pristin won a mama, an award that any rookie or senior group would want to win, what the hell Pledis was thinking????

    • @anticeon
      @anticeon 5 лет назад +8

      Pledis will debut new group

    • @jejeeenasdfgh4365
      @jejeeenasdfgh4365 5 лет назад +93

      Pledis is just a plain bullshit

    • @eli_sonj
      @eli_sonj 5 лет назад +70

      After School, Nuest, and now Pristin ... fuckin Pledis

    • @meiske5844
      @meiske5844 5 лет назад +4

      MZNO i think it’s their will to disband too bcs knowing that pledis is that trash lol

    • @jungkate6152
      @jungkate6152 5 лет назад +8

      I hate pledis for treating their artist so badly, I love their groups tho

  • @ryan-cl1pv
    @ryan-cl1pv 5 лет назад +3263

    I remember when INFINITE debuted 2010 and almost get disbanded bc they didn't get much attention and their company was onnthe verge of bankruptcy but their CEO gave them a chance, sold his own house, put out his own savings to produce INFINITE's album and they reached the top with Be Mine 💛 then they became the breadwinner of their company. I'm really thankful that they didn't give up and their CEO trusted them 💛💛💛 and now they became one of Korea's pride 💛 Proud of my boys. Inspirits will be right here waiting for your comeback. Fighting!!

    • @meymong1565
      @meymong1565 5 лет назад +16

      😭😭😭

    • @bueaty3656
      @bueaty3656 5 лет назад +157

      Honestly. Infinite and BTS are two of my favourite groups and are success stories that made their companies.
      There’s also boyfriend who along with K.will and sistar made starship the company it is (albiet one with shitty management but nothing new there with companies) and so starship became a more well known ‘reputable’ company and have lots of artist now (which they can’t bloody manage since half of them are locked in a dungeon half the time)

    • @Grinning_shark
      @Grinning_shark 5 лет назад +195

      @@meymong1565 He sold his HOUSE?! Now that's committment.

    • @s.amm.y
      @s.amm.y 5 лет назад +86

      I wish all CEOs were like him

    • @cessaycs4557
      @cessaycs4557 5 лет назад +84

      Ewa Słabińska even source music ceo he sold his house just to debut gfriend

  • @keziamanuela506
    @keziamanuela506 4 года назад +1132

    Pledis really waste pristin like that🤦🏻‍♀️ istg they will be big if they treated good enough...
    edit: anyways, pls checkout and support some pristin ex members group, hinapia!! they really deserve it🥺

    • @lyka2746
      @lyka2746 4 года назад +18

      But Kyla of pristin already created a video she said what is the reason why they disbanded she also said that the member decided it not Pledis and she also said don't believe what other people saying
      You can also watch kyla's video here in RUclips
      Pls. Respect my comment 😊❤️
      Sorry for interrupting

    • @mykaylaokwudibonye6135
      @mykaylaokwudibonye6135 4 года назад +25

      _ Monachikos _ the only reason that was is because pledis was treating them like shit and they simply noticed that. i’m pretty sure that would not have happened if pledis treated pristin like they do seventeen

    • @lyka2746
      @lyka2746 4 года назад

      Ow so that's the reason ok thank you for explaining

    • @redblue4127
      @redblue4127 4 года назад +4

      Pledis is notorious for being incompetent

    • @sexsanlol
      @sexsanlol 4 года назад

      666 likes O-O

  • @cookierockstar8
    @cookierockstar8 5 лет назад +1101

    I’m aso shocked 9 muses never won. They had some pretty legendary bops too

    • @PongoXBongo
      @PongoXBongo 5 лет назад +43

      They were never really my cup of tea and even I feel they were robbed.

    • @cookierockstar8
      @cookierockstar8 5 лет назад +11

      PongoXBongo *cries* they deserved more :/

    • @Orangeyougladx3
      @Orangeyougladx3 5 лет назад +14

      Glue was a pretty big song in Korea so even im confused

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 5 лет назад +2

      I agree Maybe it has to do how many members they have and Up against the popular ones. Remember Sera = Snsd Taeyeon Even though her Dialect is the same spoken by Hyemi Eunji and Hyuna because they're from Jeolla Province like Taeyeon if doing a comparison with JYP entertainment twice Sera = Jihyo.

    • @marvinnie
      @marvinnie 4 года назад +3

      @@Orangeyougladx3 And Dolls even more

  • @goddessjessica5897
    @goddessjessica5897 5 лет назад +752

    9muses active for 9years having bops only best title tracks and ICONIC choreos members all top models all SUPER talented with literally the best rappers of kpop.... this group flopping is kpop’s biggest mystery

    • @definzgoody5448
      @definzgoody5448 5 лет назад +27

      9muses will always be one of the Gem in Kpop Industry,
      no matter they got any win or not .
      💓💓💓

    • @jaypascual4379
      @jaypascual4379 4 года назад +17

      they probably got match up with a much popular group

    • @peterjacob7664
      @peterjacob7664 4 года назад +1

      I love them, and rainbow too

    • @peterjacob7664
      @peterjacob7664 4 года назад +4

      @@jaypascual4379 yep, 2ne1,snsd t-ara 4minute really bog one

    • @effingeff3981
      @effingeff3981 4 года назад

      Yeah probably bcs of popular groups from big companies.

  • @charoootte8470
    @charoootte8470 5 лет назад +622

    Pristin was a joke pledis can smfd lmao pristin had so much potential wasted fml

    • @buddyosborn9346
      @buddyosborn9346 5 лет назад +14

      Ohhhhh I hate my dyslexia, I though you said pristin had no potential....
      I was ready to fight, I'm sorry, much love

    • @nitzaherediaruiz785
      @nitzaherediaruiz785 5 лет назад +7

      Well... At least they won a mama

    • @lesleyblackvelvet5802
      @lesleyblackvelvet5802 5 лет назад +17

      Pledis has zero respect from the K-Pop community.

    • @mynameisElisse
      @mynameisElisse 5 лет назад +7

      I genuinely believed their songs had a potential of winning. I always thought they would have one song that would just be such a hit.

    • @sionropheca6473
      @sionropheca6473 5 лет назад +3

      They even got 3 Rookie Of The Year!! F u PLEDIS!!!

  • @ale8117
    @ale8117 4 года назад +388

    I hope KARD won't be one of them, they are too talented :(

    • @MegaXavi999
      @MegaXavi999 4 года назад +23

      Kelsie Mangar
      Yeah, I still stan them and even saw them live but I’ll admit their old song were clearly the best.

    • @Manzana835
      @Manzana835 4 года назад +14

      Is KARD the coed group right? Cause we need more of those

    • @yuatakama3055
      @yuatakama3055 4 года назад +19

      I love them so much and do hope that their latin American fans are still going strong. I'm still a hidden kard up until their latest comeback, Red moon, and I admit their pre-debut songs are dope.

    • @User5777_
      @User5777_ 4 года назад +14

      Their company is actively promoting them in South Korea, but one of them is enlisted in the military. They have a decent fan base & after having huge success in Latin America. They’ve done tours around Mexico, Brazil, Chile & Bolivia.

    • @MegaXavi999
      @MegaXavi999 4 года назад +2

      User5777
      And Argentina

  • @calmthefdown789
    @calmthefdown789 5 лет назад +334

    TheEastLight is such an underrated band and they terminated their contracts instead of a disbandment which is a great thing because their agency treated them abusively. I wish they could be debut together again with a different name in another agency.

    • @MsBie-xy1ph
      @MsBie-xy1ph 5 лет назад +6

      Seriously, they actually deserved better!

    • @little_miss_sunshinee
      @little_miss_sunshinee 5 лет назад +19

      its almost a relief they disbanded, they suffered all kind of violence to be in that band even physical abuse ... no music award or professional success is worth that kind of life

    • @preethiumesh
      @preethiumesh 5 лет назад +2

      @@MsBie-xy1ph I guess when music show wins are purely based on how the group perform that day on the show and their song yhen we can see many underrated groups win.it's unfair for the the groups performing while popular groups even without performing on that day wins because of staying on music charts and popularity and sales .not throwing shade on any popular groups rather saying generally as the groups performing on that day leaves with disappointment without any win

  • @onceatiny5738
    @onceatiny5738 5 лет назад +2529

    Pristin should have gotten their first win with their debut song :/ and now they have no chance becuz of pledis 😭 hope they find manageable agencies

    • @j-rod4600
      @j-rod4600 5 лет назад +115

      They won rookie of the year at the Asia Artist Awards and followed that up with nothing. There has to be more to the story. But it sure seems like poor management.

    • @mengmeiqi6965
      @mengmeiqi6965 5 лет назад +61

      Jerrod Willea it is poor management, they only got 2 title tracks and 1 for a subunit. Then they disbanded. This isn’t the first time pledis does this. Pledis hasn’t given a group named after school a comeback since 2013 and it sucks. Also pledis used to make seventeen buy stuff their self and they couldn’t afford it so they had to use cheap handmade stuff.

    • @j-rod4600
      @j-rod4600 5 лет назад +24

      @@mengmeiqi6965 from everything I've read it does seem like poor management and like you said, they've mismanaged other groups. It just baffles me that you have a successful group with 2 girls coming off the success of IOI and other girls with varying success on produce 101. Even with the bare minimum of effort, all signs pointed to a successful group. The inky thing that makes sense to me is that something else had to be going on. But it's quite possible there wasn't. It's a shame I discovered them so late. :(

    • @carlosantoniolealmarroquin3918
      @carlosantoniolealmarroquin3918 5 лет назад +6

      Wait what? Pristin disbanded?

    • @morklee631
      @morklee631 5 лет назад +3

      @@carlosantoniolealmarroquin3918 uh yeah they disbanded around the end of may

  • @emilinaverse
    @emilinaverse 5 лет назад +1055

    Spica, BESTie, Fiestar, Stellar, Rainbow, hello venus, Dalshabet, 9MUSES...no words. They are literally so talented! Well a trophy/win can’t take that way from them.

    • @luvsik4403
      @luvsik4403  5 лет назад +10

      i definitely agree

    • @medythawp
      @medythawp 5 лет назад +1

      Wassup too!

    • @catalina3
      @catalina3 5 лет назад +9

      They're all so iconic too!

    • @yourlocalgrannie
      @yourlocalgrannie 5 лет назад +5

      You know Dalshabet is reuniting again so it’s just like a second chance to Dalshabet

    • @Savannah-
      @Savannah- 5 лет назад +3

      Hello venus was one of the first groups I fell in love with. I miss them 😭

  • @poursomesugaonme2931
    @poursomesugaonme2931 4 года назад +138

    I'm so disappointed that Kaachi has had more exposure than these groups. Some groups are still going after years while barely getting 20,000 views IN A YEAR

    • @myzen1729
      @myzen1729 4 года назад +6

      But all kachi got is negative press. Is just people like to make fun to made them feel better, include me actually.

    • @alyanaayuni3492
      @alyanaayuni3492 3 года назад +2

      @@myzen1729 well, it's actually a fake rumors plus Kaachi just got famous cause of the rumors

  • @fabiana854
    @fabiana854 5 лет назад +767

    I’ll never understand how Korea slept on Speed, History, Fiestar and Spica...

    • @Hhhh22222-w
      @Hhhh22222-w 4 года назад

      Concept is important

    • @PCats-2023
      @PCats-2023 4 года назад +29

      Fabiana Bueno Lmao stop acting like just Korea slept on them 😭😭. Their music video views are proof ALL Y’ALL slept on them too

    • @springday6259
      @springday6259 4 года назад

      man!

    • @aaron_enri
      @aaron_enri 4 года назад +1

      9muses too

    • @Manzana835
      @Manzana835 4 года назад +10

      There are many factors, not necessarily people ignoring them, but rather a bad timing and publicity, small scandals and concepts that went unnoticed, and don't get me wrong, those groups were not bad, but they came at a time when the market was being taken by other groups like Twice, Red Velvet, EXO, Seventeen and of course BTS, which caught the attention with unique concepts and sounds (and had the support of big companies in some cases), they just had a really really bad timing

  • @씨줄리아
    @씨줄리아 5 лет назад +452

    Nine Muses remains a mystery. They were talented, hard working, beautiful and their songs were all bops. How didn't they win anything?

    • @rontaylor8641
      @rontaylor8641 5 лет назад +70

      씨줄리아 popularity is honestly a hard thing to obtain, im just surprised they lasted this long without a win :(

    • @daisy0138
      @daisy0138 5 лет назад +12

      Their giant women concept didn't appeal to the public and they couldn't hold a steady fan base

    • @holeecheng6873
      @holeecheng6873 5 лет назад

      Agree with u on your fair n accurate comment.

    • @NekoMiki82
      @NekoMiki82 5 лет назад +1

      No joke, they'd make group like GFREIND looks small because they're such a tall girl group.

    • @chikkooranepadayao216
      @chikkooranepadayao216 5 лет назад +3

      They debuted in 2nd Generation competing with the Legends

  • @mrAndre125
    @mrAndre125 5 лет назад +1421

    Before Mamamoo, we have Spica and Melodyday who have a strong vocal

    • @adeliaprimadini9102
      @adeliaprimadini9102 5 лет назад +60

      Oh my God This is What I Though Spica's Vocal are no joke,they were supposed to be get 1st win,they deserved it So much

    • @masakazuhiruko550
      @masakazuhiruko550 5 лет назад +20

      Honestly Spica is a fucking dope group. The rapper honestly sounds like a main vocal material. If you heard their cover of right here. Damn

    • @jwibao
      @jwibao 5 лет назад +17

      Well it's time to us open our eyes about the 'fairness' of KPOP world. Ones that has a strong backing (big agencies) and looks surely always ended as the winner. That's 100% guaranteed tho. Only PLEDIS trying to mess around with their good group such as PRISTIN.

    • @marchelinaelin
      @marchelinaelin 5 лет назад +14

      We still have Matilda, at least the last time I know they still exist.

    • @marchelinaelin
      @marchelinaelin 5 лет назад +11

      And 15& isn't officially end.

  • @azusa0421
    @azusa0421 5 лет назад +3244

    Now I remember that BTS was supposed to disband also before the I NEED U Era. I'm so glad BigHit pushed them through and BTS never gave up even with the tough and toxic industry especially for talents from small companies. There are so many underrated groups out there, all they need is a chance to prove themselves and a caring company to support them all through out and treat their groups as a family and not just money-makers.

    • @NyokouChannel
      @NyokouChannel 5 лет назад +213

      Exactly. That's what makes BTS success so amazing. There were some groups from small companies that made it big in 2nd gen too like SISTAR with Starship and Beast/4minute with Cube. But everyone thought K-pop was starting to die in 2013/2014... A lot of 2nd gen fans were very blinded with their egos, they couldn't see past their own noses enough to notice that 3rd gen groups were debuting with more polished skills than most 2nd gen groups did

    • @Coco-no5fn
      @Coco-no5fn 5 лет назад +107

      Yes and so many new armys don’t know that...

    • @sunlxve
      @sunlxve 5 лет назад +79

      Yeah, I also hope that groups in these videos would’ve pushed more and could get more success than disbanding, it’s like wasting talent, I mean look at BTS now, they thriving

    • @茶茶-v5l
      @茶茶-v5l 5 лет назад +65

      It also helped that they know how to write/produce their own music. Most of these idols are manufactured so they are disposable with the next young generation. If they don’t got anything else.

    • @belladonna2606
      @belladonna2606 5 лет назад +6

      Wait they were gonna disband?

  • @giss23
    @giss23 5 лет назад +375

    So many of these groups lasted a long time without any wins. This shows that bops are produced by many groups but only the mainstream one's are seen and given wins.

    • @yachishairclips2250
      @yachishairclips2250 5 лет назад +34

      That is why even with controversies Big Company Has... They are still the safest bet to debut with all that years of hard work as a trainee.

    • @deekshab9417
      @deekshab9417 5 лет назад +2

      One word: zimzalabim.
      ( And it is no bop in any way)

    • @soopyrat5732
      @soopyrat5732 5 лет назад +3

      @@yachishairclips2250 they are usually but there are some artist that haven't gotten wins in bigger companies. Even then it can take over a year to get a win, but yeah, you're usually promised a win.

    • @Ms1stprime
      @Ms1stprime 5 лет назад +8

      @@yachishairclips2250 because win in music show doesn't mean everything. A group could hold and survive as long as they make income. And all groups from big company will always make enough income. Because eventough they don't win any music show they still could make a concert or even they sales are already make enough profit. This is proven with Got7 who lasted 3 years before they 1st win, day 6 even without no win until now. Their profit was enough for them to survive and not disband

    • @IFMM-zk1wp
      @IFMM-zk1wp 5 лет назад +6

      @@Ms1stprime Fyi, GOT7 got their 1st win below 2years actually around Oct 2015 I believe. Even tho they not really famous then in Korea but their i-fans are huge and keep growing eveb until today. But i agreed with your statement . As long as the band can make profit with album sales, concert, fan meetings, merch etc the chances to be disband earlier is less.

  • @yue1084
    @yue1084 5 лет назад +378

    the number of ggs on this list is just saddening...

    • @aanabs
      @aanabs 5 лет назад +20

      And most of them are talented and even have some bops. What a tight competition 😭

  • @josephadriangutierrez3312
    @josephadriangutierrez3312 4 года назад +118

    if the song played every group is theirs, im shocked. most of them were bop and has unique concepts

  • @amirrafiqbinrizal5192
    @amirrafiqbinrizal5192 5 лет назад +515

    Nine muses, dal shabet, stellar, rainbow, history, madtown was iconic. So sad to see groups disband without thier first win

  • @Misspark91
    @Misspark91 5 лет назад +234

    This just shows the reality is the kpop market is over saturated and you could be a phenomenal singer/performer/visual and still not make it big...

    • @ijwd424
      @ijwd424 5 лет назад +8

      Exactly. Companies keep pumping out new groups for the sake of trying to make some money. It's basically impossible to make it unless you come from a big company or you are really lucky.

    • @defiantaichi
      @defiantaichi 5 лет назад +1

      It doesn't help that artists have minimum to nil creative control. Making all songs sound factory produced

  • @neelemio
    @neelemio 5 лет назад +322

    ok but not at how nobody talks about THE EASTLIGHT, these young and talented boys deserved so much better,they got abused and hurted by they're own producer and CEO so much... I loved them and still do,hope they are recovering well...

    • @mxmb9044
      @mxmb9044 4 года назад +10

      Yess i stan them and it so sad that their company didn't treat them well 🥺

    • @lovearion
      @lovearion 4 года назад +7

      i have heard of them and listened to some of their songs, theyre so talented, they deserved so much more but their company didnt treat them right :(((

    • @alyssachan4330
      @alyssachan4330 4 года назад +1

      I also hope they make a comeback tgt

  • @seriousleh
    @seriousleh 4 года назад +81

    9muses were active for almost a whole damn decade and after
    A ton of member lineup changes
    No music show wins
    Being underrated
    And being treated very badly by their company
    They disbanded #9musesdeservedbetter

  • @caytlin100
    @caytlin100 5 лет назад +1921

    Change the title to
    Highly underrated talent that Koreans didn’t appreciated enough

    • @hihihihihihihihh
      @hihihihihihihihh 5 лет назад +48

      And international fans.

    • @unknown316xtz
      @unknown316xtz 5 лет назад +15

      Genius comment

    • @immiliz8152
      @immiliz8152 5 лет назад +2

      caytlin100 So True ~ Thanks ♥️

    • @kyeoptaveve
      @kyeoptaveve 5 лет назад

      the accuracy

    • @jeonkhargosh1213
      @jeonkhargosh1213 5 лет назад +14

      I don't understand why international kpop fans have to always target Koreans 😑😐.

  • @larabrigitte
    @larabrigitte 5 лет назад +874

    Triple H was my favorite mixed group...
    I hate cube + 'fans'

    • @mariemaresch5463
      @mariemaresch5463 5 лет назад +10

      They deserved so much better ... their music was incredibly good ... I miss them so much ...

    • @miran.6633
      @miran.6633 5 лет назад +4

      same tbh their songs were rlly good :/ i. miss them a lot

    • @larabrigitte
      @larabrigitte 5 лет назад +4

      Anyway I hope Cube won't treat their other groups like that in case of dating 'scandals'

    • @youregay6449
      @youregay6449 5 лет назад +7

      Christian D.O ikr I hate it how people call it scandals they are saying as if dating is bad

  • @amyrodriguez9866
    @amyrodriguez9866 5 лет назад +152

    it’s even more sad because they left their families, dieted, trained for years and even learned a new language for this dream just so it could end like that

  • @renandadiva881
    @renandadiva881 4 года назад +37

    Let's admit that we actually like or even knew at least one of them. And it's hard breaking to see them disbanded without winning

  • @itsme______1
    @itsme______1 5 лет назад +2905

    I am pretty mad about UNB, Uni.T, The Ark and Triple H😡
    (Edit: wow 2.5 K humans agree with me...thats cool👍)

    • @kimimiralte3787
      @kimimiralte3787 5 лет назад +47

      me too...at least Hui is still der...i hope Pentagon will win soon!

    • @mengmeiqi6965
      @mengmeiqi6965 5 лет назад +65

      I’m also mad about pristin because pledis sucks, they could’ve won if they stayed together and actually got songs but no they got 2

    • @ash.613
      @ash.613 5 лет назад +44

      To be fair UNB and Uni.T didn’t have to many comebacks so less chances to win... I think if they stuck around a little longer they would’ve gotten a first win.... whereas older groups like SPEED or 9Muses had probably a dozen comebacks and never got a win :(

    • @itsme______1
      @itsme______1 5 лет назад

      @@mengmeiqi6965 you are right

    • @itsme______1
      @itsme______1 5 лет назад

      @@ash.613 true

  • @mica8804
    @mica8804 5 лет назад +166

    9Muses is really one of the most painful cases ever in Kpop history.
    They really came out with Bops like WILD, GLUE, NEWS, DOLLS, GUN and more but they never win anything in almost 9 years ;-; It's really so SAD.

    • @meulful
      @meulful 5 лет назад +1

      It's hard to win an award cause of their big rivalries like TWICE, BTS, and other big group in kpop industries.. that's the sad part of being a kpop Idol..

    • @meulful
      @meulful 5 лет назад

      @entre mlm i don't think they will be paid, cause the years of training and expenses of the companies that they invested to their Idol... if they got commercial.. or guesting etc. That money will go their company because Idol that has recently debut are in debt... meaning before they debut they all have debt so if they fully out of deb to their company.. that's where they gonna receive their first salary.. have u watch one of the episode of korean variety show which a momoland member is a guess, where she revealed that she haven't get her first salary yet because they're all in debt.

  • @juno3650
    @juno3650 5 лет назад +1195

    Old school Kpop fans know:
    Rainbow
    Hello Venus
    Dal Shabet
    9 muses
    😊

    • @NoneKnowing
      @NoneKnowing 5 лет назад +12

      RIP right these are the ones that hurt and the boy groups are another thing 😭

    • @steadysilver4154
      @steadysilver4154 5 лет назад +14

      I loved dal shabet 💔

    • @sebongiecarrot2804
      @sebongiecarrot2804 5 лет назад +5

      NoneKnowing right?! I used to stan C-Clown but nobody I know irl knows them cause they never got the promotion/attention they deserved TT-TT

    • @Emi_doesnt_like_it
      @Emi_doesnt_like_it 5 лет назад

      I miss them 😢

    • @xree5935
      @xree5935 5 лет назад +8

      And secret

  • @jackierico449
    @jackierico449 4 года назад +28

    *I was literally broken apart when I saw the news about History disbanding!! I mean they were one of my first groups they were like the light to my soul!! I WAS JUST HEARTBROKEN BY THE NEWS!!!*
    Also for 9Muses, gosh they had bops but people just didn’t do much for them!! They lasted long and I’m thankful for that!!

  • @standreamcatcher2371
    @standreamcatcher2371 5 лет назад +231

    9muses story is the saddest to me. They had great music, so much talent and amazing stage present, they just couldn't make it. It hurts, because I was trying to learn more about them when they disbandent, and it felt horrible. I can't imagine how the most harcore fans of they could had felt.

  • @rebeccachoi1889
    @rebeccachoi1889 5 лет назад +561

    Not enough people are talking about Fiestar and Stellar. They both had such amazing songs, but they weren't promoted enough and their companies did them dirty. It breaks my heart because they two of my favorite groups.

    • @xenojust1310
      @xenojust1310 5 лет назад +6

      Agreed. Theres so much wasted talent here.

    • @DrDiborane
      @DrDiborane 5 лет назад +14

      Same. Used to absolutely love Stellar but their management was a nightmare. Same with Fiestar.

    • @funtimeswithtom4108
      @funtimeswithtom4108 5 лет назад +12

      You would think the momentum that Yezi had from Unpretty Rapstar 2 that Fade Entertainment could have promoted Fiestar to the moon.

    • @xenojust1310
      @xenojust1310 5 лет назад +6

      @@funtimeswithtom4108 Entertainments do not know how to promote. Except for maybe Big Hit

    • @whaamwheem3260
      @whaamwheem3260 5 лет назад +10

      I remember Stellar saying that they were forced to do sexy concepts because it was the only album/songs that gives them sales :((((( Even though they were so talented they were slept on :(

  • @troubledbory
    @troubledbory 5 лет назад +194

    Nine Muses will ALWAYS be that girl group who were the most underrated throughout their whole career. With all the inconsistent company line up changes and factors they weren't able to control, they always served amazing bops and were talented visually, vocally and with dance.

    • @ferchen17
      @ferchen17 5 лет назад

      Agreed

    • @definzgoody5448
      @definzgoody5448 5 лет назад +1

      So true, the most disayangkan group in kpop history.

  • @chrisozera814
    @chrisozera814 4 года назад +50

    Some of the group were ahead of the time. If they were to debut in 2019, they will do well I think.

  • @nyuflame2271
    @nyuflame2271 5 лет назад +294

    Its unfortunate that these groups didnt get a win :'(

  • @exolvideos
    @exolvideos 5 лет назад +206

    Madtown had some great songs... Emptiness was so good.
    I'm sad for the eastlight and I hope they will form a group under a GOOD company.
    I loved history's songs too.. It's sad they disbanded.
    Ajax members used to be on the older variety shows that I used to watch. They were so funny. It's so disappointing they disbanded.

  • @sheggy1986
    @sheggy1986 4 года назад +146

    For all of those worring about Dreamcatcher ,there's no need for that they're not going anywhere :) here's some infos why cuz i did research.Their youtube channel gain more than 200k new subs in just 2 months,they sold over 50k albums for this new comeback and ppl still buying albums every day,me myself bought 4 :) #Dreamcatcher was trending #1 on bugs (which is kinda similar to spotify so ppl in korea seached for them) for few weeks .You can clearly see that they getting stronger each comeback,i don't even need to tell you that they gained alot of international fans too do i :)

    • @nias3905
      @nias3905 4 года назад

      I think because DC ever disbanded with name minx and the member is depression, and i heard if they disbanded again the ceo of they compeny will makes a kimchi restaurant for them

    • @imara9033
      @imara9033 4 года назад

      Happy to hear *sorry i mean read :v that
      That fact that they almost win over everglow who is similiar famous with dc in the show when promoting deja vu remember? Everglow wins 7 points over dc, only 7 pointss, but well i stan everglow more than dreamcatcher back than but i feel sad that the fact they didnt win bcs they already long time ago debut

    • @bb_143
      @bb_143 3 года назад

      Their member Aurora participated in Youth with You 2 under OACA

  • @JS-vp6wg
    @JS-vp6wg 5 лет назад +440

    Jiwon was in spica and uni.t can you imagien what that feels like

    • @ty0ngfei388
      @ty0ngfei388 5 лет назад +94

      And Woohee was in Dalshabet and uni.t
      And Yoonjo was in Hello Venus and uni.t
      And Lee Suji was in the ark and uni.t

    • @jwibao
      @jwibao 5 лет назад +81

      Then all members in uni.t experienced the double disbandment :(

    • @ty0ngfei388
      @ty0ngfei388 5 лет назад +19

      @@jwibao NC.A is an very underrated solo artist
      Dia (Yebin was in uni.t) didn't disband, are underrated but actually have a first win
      Sonamoo (Euijin was in uni.t) didn't disband, are underrated but win an award at list ( new korean wave music star award of 2017 )
      Laboum (ZN was in uni.t) didn't disband, are underrated but actually have a first win
      April (Lee Hyunjoo) left her group as Yoonjo did with Hello Venus
      So yeah Uni.t members history is sad in general ( and it's the same for a lot of other The Unit contestant

    • @ty0ngfei388
      @ty0ngfei388 5 лет назад

      @MiekoNeko same...

    • @JS-vp6wg
      @JS-vp6wg 5 лет назад +3

      Black Shire uni.t was such a disappointment like honestly how could they do that??

  • @ilikechez5775
    @ilikechez5775 5 лет назад +336

    Madtown, Speed, History, Cclown, Hello Venus, 9 Muses and Stellar were fairly well known, too. They had quite a few fans as well! And yet they never won.

    • @Ekinhae
      @Ekinhae 4 года назад +4

      Don’t forget cclown too they on they spot light suddenly they disband

    • @ilikechez5775
      @ilikechez5775 4 года назад +1

      @@Ekinhae Oops! I'll add them now!

    • @janglici3540
      @janglici3540 4 года назад +2

      Amemura Ramuda ikr I really miss HelloVenus! They had so many good songs 😢

    • @rivertothemoon
      @rivertothemoon 4 года назад +1

      SPICA was also actually quite well known

    • @SelviaRidhoha
      @SelviaRidhoha 4 года назад

      So sad when they disbanded TT

  • @borntosurvey4919
    @borntosurvey4919 5 лет назад +1207

    Lets hope that in the future we don´t see Dreamcatcher and Loona on this list, just because they are too unique for the koreans and their ridiculous music shows.

    • @al-faz5833
      @al-faz5833 5 лет назад +62

      Weki meki

    • @PND-ye3hq
      @PND-ye3hq 5 лет назад +12

      I don't think that will happen. I predict that they will get a win soon.

    • @likesforlisa2077
      @likesforlisa2077 5 лет назад +58

      loona got a win now!

    • @jes2704
      @jes2704 5 лет назад +17

      Yeah, SBS be doing everything they can to steal Dreamcatchers well deserved win.

    • @blop8220
      @blop8220 5 лет назад +8

      Loona comeback is supposed to be more mainstream so maybe a first win

  • @sen0440
    @sen0440 4 года назад +30

    i remember madtown, high4, history's songs are BOP and them visual is no joke but well, the competitiveness is too strong out there :(

  • @ParkJimin-ec3pf
    @ParkJimin-ec3pf 5 лет назад +839

    Maybe Triple H would've won a award if cube didn't kick hyuna and e'dawn out 🤦🏽‍♀️🙄

    • @jonesanderson8023
      @jonesanderson8023 5 лет назад +37

      And it's just because they're dating🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️

    • @kinga9445
      @kinga9445 5 лет назад +11

      @@jonesanderson8023 darling, thats becouse stupid people and cube ent. Not bz they wanted to find happiness in their lonely lifes

    • @mojoutube
      @mojoutube 5 лет назад +29

      But no worries. Hyuna & Edawn still together always hanging out at IG. & signed to Psy's new agency. She said she has more control on her future songs & acts. More freedom & more money.

    • @hyemibo395
      @hyemibo395 5 лет назад +5

      @@kinga9445 I think @Jones Anderson meant because Hyuna and E'dawn are dating, they were kicked out of Cube.

    • @plasmus100
      @plasmus100 5 лет назад +1

      Park Jimin he was busy, winning championships at wrestlmania. How would triple H have time, to sing. Lol

  • @arohicunt1356
    @arohicunt1356 5 лет назад +442

    What Bestie,Rainbow,Stellar,Feistar,Dashalbet,9 Muses,Rania Didn't Won Any Award? That's Sad And Suprising

    • @rezaanggara9033
      @rezaanggara9033 5 лет назад +9

      I think Dalshabet won in other shows but not in popular show like music bank or mnet. Because Dalshabet never won in popular shows.

    • @NekoMiki82
      @NekoMiki82 5 лет назад +11

      @glossorange I heard that a lots of none fans said they heard a lot about Nine Muses and thought they were popular but it surprised them as they found out that NM is not popular at all.

    • @jorrdan.
      @jorrdan. 5 лет назад +7

      NekoMiki82 i think a lot of people know of 9muses, especially back a few years ago before all the lineup changes. Their sales used to be pretty good (not as big as really popular groups but not bad at all), but I think all the lineup changes really hurt them (even though I think all the members are great).

  • @yimdiw6236
    @yimdiw6236 5 лет назад +923

    Now i'm scared for April, Sonamoo, SF9, Pentagon, Gugudan, Kard and Weki meki 😥😖

    • @nicole9856
      @nicole9856 5 лет назад +306

      Kard is doing great tbh, they have a much large international fanbase than korean + they win awards. It's almost pentagon and sf9's time i hope ;-;

    • @timeep
      @timeep 5 лет назад +134

      It's nearly done for Sonamoo, complicated for SF9, April but Gugudan, WM and Pentagon are pretty safe for now

    • @user_23ap
      @user_23ap 5 лет назад +78

      Juan García I believe all groups will stay in the scene for a long period of time. Pentagon and SF9 are almost at the brick of popularity. They’re almost there, they just need more publicity. As for the girl groups, I think they’ll all be fine in the industry, except for Sonamoo. It is true they could possibly be almost up, but let’s hope not.

    • @markwilliams125
      @markwilliams125 5 лет назад +26

      @@nicole9856 but jseph has to go to the military next year and kard will be stalled without creating a fanbase..

    • @saidaneines4890
      @saidaneines4890 5 лет назад +23

      Astro is in danger too😭

  • @natasyahelmy7393
    @natasyahelmy7393 4 года назад +45

    Imagine the fans that stan them ... It's really hurt... imagine what they're thinking about them .. and they need to move on... that's sad..This made me feels hurt as my fav group hasn't get any too... Please don't let pentagon become one of them , just please

    • @lightyagami2255
      @lightyagami2255 4 года назад +1

      Even I was thinking the same thing 😭

    • @rivertothemoon
      @rivertothemoon 4 года назад

      One of my ult groups are gonna disband real soon and i really wish they get a win with their last comeback but i just know they most probably won't cause their management is pure shit

    • @jasonzhao9641
      @jasonzhao9641 4 года назад

      Illogically Logical Are u talking about pentagon are they really disbanding soon?

  • @petitejelly1189
    @petitejelly1189 5 лет назад +1325

    I miss the old kpop era when they get win because of their music and talent 😢

    • @Sumehvu
      @Sumehvu 5 лет назад +5

      @lexha wish I agree with you

    • @irisdovera7500
      @irisdovera7500 5 лет назад +71

      When was that? Idol group has always been build by popularity. Only after they have enough fans, they could show music and talent.

    • @chaeralee9611
      @chaeralee9611 5 лет назад +8

      2nd Gen😢

    • @mendozaromylenecarillo7555
      @mendozaromylenecarillo7555 5 лет назад +18

      @@chaeralee9611 nah. I am a 2nd gen fan. When you are going against snsd, it would be hard to compete. 4minute was also talented but only won 1 tine against 2ne1 and snsd.

    • @chaeralee9611
      @chaeralee9611 5 лет назад +3

      Mendoza Romylene Carillo I don't against on them ok

  • @stickywater3728
    @stickywater3728 5 лет назад +455

    Damn Spica were arguably the best girl vocal group. No joke, really good vocals

    • @sahni2901
      @sahni2901 5 лет назад +2

      Heesoo Shin honestly

    • @CoCo-ov9eb
      @CoCo-ov9eb 5 лет назад +2

      Heesoo Shin I know they were amazing 😭😭😭

    • @stua2279
      @stua2279 4 года назад +8

      Ikr! They had this classy vibe too. I was inconsolable when i found out they disbanded😶

    • @gmiranda2194
      @gmiranda2194 4 года назад +2

      Fck yes

    • @fearle_1302
      @fearle_1302 4 года назад +2

      True i like them so much :(

  • @sixteenskies
    @sixteenskies 5 лет назад +589

    i think this is proof that songs and/or talent is a small, small percentage of an idol group’s success.

    • @chewyxcookies
      @chewyxcookies 5 лет назад +41

      Mostly it depends on which company they belong to😢 cuz on the list they actually have it all talent,charm,visual,perfect mv and bop song...

    • @lugi25
      @lugi25 5 лет назад +13

      Yeah talent and good music usually doesn't matter. All about promotions.

    • @jandyljessguia2434
      @jandyljessguia2434 5 лет назад +8

      How lucky to those groups who belongs to big companies

    • @chewyxcookies
      @chewyxcookies 5 лет назад +6

      @@jandyljessguia2434 Yeah but being in a big company like sm,yg or jyp there are still chance for the idols to be mistreated..

    • @mrteddy5814
      @mrteddy5814 5 лет назад

      @@chewyxcookies yg is not a big company ... thats what yall stated and its ture they arent big 3 anymore .

  • @Jojokyu24
    @Jojokyu24 4 года назад +15

    I only know, The ark, triple H, pristin, madtown, speed, spica, fiestar, stellar, rainbow, hello venus, rania, dalshabet, 9 muses. Unbelievable, they had no single win.

  • @archangel1392
    @archangel1392 5 лет назад +162

    High4, Speed, Madtown, 9 muses, The Ark, Spica, Stellar and the rest of these groups really deserve an award.

  • @definzgoody5448
    @definzgoody5448 5 лет назад +540

    Nine Muses is such an iconic kpop underrated Legend . * tragedy)
    People always imagining how great if they were in SM.

    • @Buffaylo
      @Buffaylo 5 лет назад

      why SM?

    • @NekoMiki82
      @NekoMiki82 5 лет назад +19

      @@Buffaylo because Nine Muses is a super visual group but I doubt it that Nine Muses would be able to do the music they did in their whole career.

    • @gowonshealthyscalp2127
      @gowonshealthyscalp2127 5 лет назад +20

      @@Buffaylo because most K-pop stans focus on Big Companies such as SM

    • @sistarnctwjsnlovers7805
      @sistarnctwjsnlovers7805 5 лет назад

      FACTS!

    • @myeaasa
      @myeaasa 5 лет назад +5

      @@gowonshealthyscalp2127 i know right... Most of them simply stan on most big company without look at small company eventho how talented they are😢😢

  • @PinkMuffin420
    @PinkMuffin420 5 лет назад +207

    The Ark was legit. Wish they would get back together

    • @nurnadhirahsaing6169
      @nurnadhirahsaing6169 4 года назад +2

      Didn't they used to cover other group dances ? I watched a video where they cover BTS choreography once. I never thought that they were underrated 😭 they're so good though

    • @mauriceoledannarag
      @mauriceoledannarag 4 года назад

      so truue

  • @zuzubels
    @zuzubels 4 года назад +62

    4:52 i have to admit, this one's a bop.

    • @Xenyia.
      @Xenyia. 4 года назад +4

      hotssey topsey most of them are bops ngl, better than some other songs i’ve listened to

    • @alyasyahirah7011
      @alyasyahirah7011 4 года назад +2

      tbh it's remind me of big bang good boy 😂

  • @91lovemusic
    @91lovemusic 5 лет назад +501

    Meloday 😢
    9muses 😢😓💔
    Pristin 😢
    Spica 😢
    Bestie 😢
    Stellar 😢😓
    Rainbow 😢😓💔
    Hello Venus 😢
    Dal Shabet 😢😓
    History 😢
    Ajax 😢

  • @itsme______1
    @itsme______1 5 лет назад +429

    All the sexy and mature groups disbanded...#notfair

    • @ahmedbarakat2809
      @ahmedbarakat2809 5 лет назад +57

      A lot of them were forced to do that concept because at that time most groups out of the big3 flopped and small companies being money hungry were using these women

    • @nino5505
      @nino5505 5 лет назад +8

      Yeah... the only one I can think of is Aoa but they’re most likely to disband since they lost 2 members... and their fanbase isn’t that big

    • @가장예쁜여자미나
      @가장예쁜여자미나 5 лет назад +6

      Sexy concept isn't always good, most of them disband because it was boring.

    • @yimdiw6236
      @yimdiw6236 5 лет назад +7

      @@가장예쁜여자미나 i love sexy/mature concept 💖 its a shame that a lot people hate it 😔

    • @yusukefuuma08
      @yusukefuuma08 5 лет назад

      @@가장예쁜여자미나 agree

  • @esteebee
    @esteebee 5 лет назад +63

    The fact that some of these are due to improper management is heartbreaking

  • @sunflowerss7395
    @sunflowerss7395 4 года назад +102

    nobody’s talking about madtown:( i miss them

  • @TheCheery101
    @TheCheery101 5 лет назад +245

    It boggles my mind that Dalshabet never got a win for Someone Like You.

    • @kmadelin
      @kmadelin 5 лет назад +1

      My same exact thoughts

    • @legallyownedbyjeonjungkook9903
      @legallyownedbyjeonjungkook9903 5 лет назад +7

      *right?!!! That song was really iconic af! The fact that they didn’t get a win with that song gives me anxiety*

    • @ummnaim5862
      @ummnaim5862 5 лет назад +2

      Or even Fri. Sat. Sun.

  • @queenyblahblah
    @queenyblahblah 5 лет назад +476

    Literally EVERY spica song should be worthy of a first win. I don’t understand how they never got one :(

    • @Cristyface
      @Cristyface 5 лет назад +1

      Secret time kills me. It's so good

    • @lebahmadu1297
      @lebahmadu1297 5 лет назад +8

      Fandom babe, their fandom are not big enough, like most of popular groups do.

    • @revooluv
      @revooluv 5 лет назад +2

      tonight was so good :(

    • @noonooshK
      @noonooshK 5 лет назад +2

      lebah madu but why their fandom don’t grow? Bcoz dont popular groups start with small fandoms as well? It is so sad that they are so so many kpop groups that never make it outside of South Korea or Asia or barely make it even in South Korea while some grow extremely huge whether it is only in South Korea or just in Asia or internationally. I will never understand what makes that difference.
      Most of their songs are just as good, so i don’t get it. I feel sorry for all those who sacrificed so much and even their whole youth, but don’t reach their dreams.

    • @hakdughakdug6521
      @hakdughakdug6521 5 лет назад +3

      @@noonooshK lacking of promotion. That's it.

  • @carlateresareyes6133
    @carlateresareyes6133 5 лет назад +314

    I feel bad for UNI.T :< Imagine how they worked hard and disbanded for just 4 months.

    • @koirasikin
      @koirasikin 5 лет назад +4

      ikr :( i didnt even know about them before but after listening their song was great

    • @notebeans3134
      @notebeans3134 5 лет назад +2

      they were a temp group from the survival show The UNI.T

    • @randomsheep1165
      @randomsheep1165 5 лет назад +4

      @@notebeans3134 yes but they weren't meant to disband 4 months after the shows finale lol. They were meant to have at least 9 months

    • @monnawei5036
      @monnawei5036 5 лет назад +1

      randomsheep11 why did they disband so earlyy

    • @randomsheep1165
      @randomsheep1165 5 лет назад +2

      @@monnawei5036 because they weren't very successful and their company didn't have enough money to continue to promote them

  • @divyangiraghav2758
    @divyangiraghav2758 4 года назад +33

    Now just think about those trainees who couldn't even debut after training for so many years ...
    Now I can get it why so many kpop idols suffer from depression so much..
    God it breaks my heart to even think of all this happening in the same industry that I enjoy listening to so much...

    • @sen0440
      @sen0440 4 года назад +4

      same man, its like a tragic behind all those happy tunes we listened all day.. but thats just how the world works damn

    • @ggk2134
      @ggk2134 4 года назад

      koeun and lami from sm left the company and i'm crying because they trained for so long

  • @ChriH.
    @ChriH. 5 лет назад +57

    I can't believe I forgot about The Ark, that debut video hit everyone hard. Feels forever and such a sad mv about a real life tragedy. They've always had my respect for that.

    • @averageasian9060
      @averageasian9060 5 лет назад

      Christina H. Two of the former members debuted together as a duo! They’re called khan and they debuted a year ago with “I’m your girl”
      ( just in case you didn’t know )

  • @notcaligo
    @notcaligo 5 лет назад +495

    I’m pretty sure The Ark had all the potential to be big :(

    • @notcaligo
      @notcaligo 5 лет назад +14

      Maia M I never really understood why. All I know is that the agency forced them to separate without any other explanation for their fans. They lasted about a year only, maybe less.. :(

    • @dnaia3705
      @dnaia3705 5 лет назад +20

      @@norazlina2847Nope, it was because their main vocal (Yujin) fell sick and had to have surgery on her vocal cords... leading to their hiatus and eventual disbandment since the company didn't want to put effort in promoting them afterwards. The Ark truly deserved better. They were well-rounded singers, dancers and performers in general. The members are still close to each other up to this day though!
      Two of the members, Jeon Minju and Euna Kim (leader-lead vocalist and main rapper) are now in a duo called KHAN, and Jung Yujin (main vocal) is now a solo artist by the stage name MAIL.
      Halla (Lee Suji), the main dancer, actually got into a group Real Girls Project for a web drama called Idolm@ster.KR but the group wasn't really known. She also got into the group UNI.T (first group mentioned in the video) after participating in The Unit. Sadly, UNI.T was also short-lived. She is now in Apple of the Eye Entertainment as an actress, not an idol.
      Jane, the youngest, is now in college.

    • @crudojoshuaricofort8795
      @crudojoshuaricofort8795 5 лет назад +7

      @@dnaia3705 a fact to throw to y'all, it was believed that hyewon of iz*one was almost part of the ark... She dodged that bullet, and now iz*one prevented an early disbandment...

    • @notcaligo
      @notcaligo 5 лет назад +1

      YOU SHOULD GO AND LOVE YOURSELF wow are u sure? Because I know nothing, I swear 😂but I don't think that was the case tbh or else I‘d have seen more information about it

    • @norazlina2847
      @norazlina2847 5 лет назад

      @@dnaia3705 omg im sorry... it was another g.group... thank you for explain!!😷😷

  • @WaynGiveSmile14
    @WaynGiveSmile14 5 лет назад +188

    Jessy is now more popular I think after disbanded from lucky J

    • @morningstar9818
      @morningstar9818 5 лет назад +13

      idk anything about k-pop other than bts but even i know jessy queen

    • @havizhsyiva7424
      @havizhsyiva7424 4 года назад

      Morning Star you're not kpopers when you just know 1 group ;

  • @cherie88cc92
    @cherie88cc92 4 года назад +12

    These songs are actually so good- a lot of them reminds me of old 2nd gen kpop which I miss:)

  • @legalalien355
    @legalalien355 5 лет назад +450

    The disbandment of HISTORY was painful af, they were so amazing 😭

    • @LitJev
      @LitJev 5 лет назад +14

      still hurts

    • @huhuhubhhg4710
      @huhuhubhhg4710 5 лет назад +2

      Yess! 😤

    • @kristaljade7089
      @kristaljade7089 5 лет назад +2

      Legal Alien History and Pristin😢

    • @darcystyles5043
      @darcystyles5043 5 лет назад +1

      THEY WERE SO GOOD!! I INTRODUCED SO MANY OF MY FRIENDS TO THEM AND MADE THEM LOVE THEM

    • @katieb6799
      @katieb6799 5 лет назад +1

      Literally! They were the band that got me into kpop 😭

  • @Krypton853
    @Krypton853 5 лет назад +40

    There's just to many kpop groups running around now. The chances for a success is slim to none cause you have to compete with the well known major groups. It's sad to see them disband like that after they work hard. Let's not forget they still have to pay on what the company owes them.

  • @sky-bf8bu
    @sky-bf8bu 5 лет назад +73

    Speed is and will always be one of my fav Kpop groups. Same for the legend and history.

    • @DineshDeArt
      @DineshDeArt 5 лет назад +3

      Same here they deserve more n i don't know mbk ent. thinking...

    • @dey3084
      @dey3084 5 лет назад +2

      same, i dont think i can move on from speed

  • @thatbooksgirl
    @thatbooksgirl 4 года назад +14

    Damn... after watching this video I realized that the groups I Stan like NCT and stray kids aren't even underrated and I used to get pissed saying they are so underrated

  • @Fammangalover
    @Fammangalover 5 лет назад +330

    It's a cut throat industry. Sadly a lot of good groups fall through the cracks.

    • @aaa-tm6sf
      @aaa-tm6sf 5 лет назад +1

      but they either di something else or do acting or so.ething so at least there's that

    • @Fammangalover
      @Fammangalover 5 лет назад +6

      @@aaa-tm6sf nope. That's plain wrong. They're plenty of reasons and examples for why it doesn't work out. And very rarely is it the artists fault. Prime example Pristin with the company Pledis. Great girl group, company completely mismanaged a popular group.

    • @JohnT2088
      @JohnT2088 5 лет назад +5

      But its still a cut throat industry. If your in the big three or well known companies your chances are higher than others if not you got to work your ass really hard to get notice. Im not saying well known companies are guarantee success but just a much higher chance than others at the moment in korea.

    • @erwinsmith2066
      @erwinsmith2066 5 лет назад +1

      And then some cliche crap gets all the clout. It's not fair