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  • Опубликовано: 13 июн 2023
  • Ben has seen one too many creators pretending to be a different race online?!! Pop culture has a long history of stealing from black culture from language to fashion to everything in-between. On the extreme end of this, there are people who outwardly claim to be black when they are from entirely different ethnic groups. This week Ben dives into a few case studies of this phenomenon and theorizes the psychology behind what makes people black wash themselves.
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  • @gianextdoor
    @gianextdoor 11 месяцев назад +2224

    If no one’s gonna say it, I will, people who aren’t from African descent want to look like us, but don’t want to experience the racism and things we go through. It’s pathetic.

  • @raay467
    @raay467 11 месяцев назад +2955

    as an indian i am EMBARRASSED for her..

    • @immortous971
      @immortous971 11 месяцев назад +53

      bro- same.. it's just that people I've seen don't know how much it hurts, the guys in my grade say the n-slur a LOT. REFERING to themselves, it's painful to see this when you are aware if basic human rights.

    • @immortous971
      @immortous971 11 месяцев назад +64

      ALSO, can we please talk about how the name 'Vijay' means "Victory" and not "Vagina"

    • @youmuggles3686
      @youmuggles3686 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah .... people are insane.... can't believe the things they do for going viral at a platform which is completely useless.....

    • @Sanrioo_Pochacco
      @Sanrioo_Pochacco 11 месяцев назад +17

      uhuh and thats why u were jamician asian korean and black on other peoples posts?

    • @immortous971
      @immortous971 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@Sanrioo_Pochacco bro- how ? WHERE

  • @ReoSmith-ec5lh
    @ReoSmith-ec5lh 11 месяцев назад +2809

    im half black, half korean and this is genuinely disgusting, like blackfishing should be illegal

    • @sadieskingdom
      @sadieskingdom 11 месяцев назад +83

      Exactly :(

    • @bastian9693
      @bastian9693 11 месяцев назад +129

      Wanting to try a new look with heart in the right place is one thing, but impersonating at someone else other than yourself and bald-face lying is just plain creepy

    • @AfroAlbinoQueen
      @AfroAlbinoQueen 11 месяцев назад +84

      im a blasian too :0 (half nigerian half chinese)

    • @jakejakelawn
      @jakejakelawn 11 месяцев назад +7

      Off topic but nice pfp, my favorite Taco Bell employee

    • @aweris.
      @aweris. 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@BotanRice how is that racist

  • @drakessidechick
    @drakessidechick 11 месяцев назад +1467

    I am an Indian, but my skin is wayyy more fair than the rest of my family. There is nothing wrong with it. But the way people react to my fair skin is wrong. My family praised me for having fair skin and saying that I am a blessing. And people outside my family, asked if I was adopted. Its gone so far that people ask if Im Malaysian or Filipino or Arab. This made me really insecure and I would ask my parents everyday if I was adopted. When i moved to Australia, the heat really effected my skin and got a bit darker, my grandparents were quick to point it out, saying I was becoming less beautiful. Theres always been a hatred for having dark skin in India and people need to understand that having dark skin is completely fine and normal.

    • @BLAIRWILLOWSS
      @BLAIRWILLOWSS 11 месяцев назад +49

      Indian people have a wide range of skin shades, I've seen a lot of " fair " Indians it's not surprising

    • @ember661
      @ember661 11 месяцев назад +28

      SAMEEE and kids in elem acc made me believe i was white 🫣 bc they thought i was and my mom calls me white too like aww little american child perfect skin
      🧍🏻 i just had heavy vitamin d deficiency.. it was so uncalled for 😭😭

    • @sashwathakrishna1368
      @sashwathakrishna1368 11 месяцев назад +11

      I get what u were trying to say but why do we, Indians associate 'fair" with light skinned? "Fair" actually means just and nothing to do with skintones. It's sad we refer to fair as light skinned. As if dark skinned people cannot be "fair" or "just" in morality.

    • @drakessidechick
      @drakessidechick 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ember661 im sorry but i giggled a bit

    • @drakessidechick
      @drakessidechick 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BLAIRWILLOWSS yea especially in the north. Maybe because i was from the south, so people didnt expect it. My eyes were also a different shape from the rest of my family and friends which is why people believed i was malay and filipino, because i was light skinned and had a different eye shape.

  • @KaiKailuv
    @KaiKailuv 11 месяцев назад +4291

    Being black is trendy now. Our skin, lips, body, and style are all being replicated in the media. Obviously the copying of ppl like Izzy goes deeper than a trend. This is just to say we’ve been dealing with ppl replicating our appearance and culture for decades by our oppressors and others it now it’s gone to the extreme. It’s become normal but it’s still kinda crazy to me that ppl are now trying to be us and go this far😭
    Edit:added style

    • @yfw.israaa
      @yfw.israaa 11 месяцев назад +110

      as an arab I agree😭

    • @ScizzoringGirlz
      @ScizzoringGirlz 11 месяцев назад +51

      Because you’re literally the beauty standard.
      And there’s plenty’s of black people in the industry nowadays.
      So why complain?

    • @xnaomisidex3502
      @xnaomisidex3502 11 месяцев назад +444

      @@ScizzoringGirlz what? white features used to be the beauty standard a decade ago. and people dont like black women with black features they like black women with white features and white women with black features

    • @isoliviaraplace
      @isoliviaraplace 11 месяцев назад +152

      I agree with what u said. However, Black people don’t have a specific body. Hourglass figures are not Black figures. No hate, just wanted to clarify :)

    • @thebestsrishti
      @thebestsrishti 11 месяцев назад +107

      As an Indian im so embarrassed. Black people are very beautiful in my eyes

  • @PlanetHertz
    @PlanetHertz 11 месяцев назад +1167

    As a dark-skinned black woman, I've witnessed the gentrification of various aspects of the black community, including fashion, music, and even physical features like lips, skin, and hair. This invasion of black spaces is a harsh reality.
    The concept of "Blackwashing" is sickening because historically, everything about black people, from our bodies to our natural hair, was deemed "unattractive" and criminalized. We were forced to rely on each other for safety and community in a country that viewed us primarily as a source of labor. When black people created close-knit communities and expressed our independence through fashion, hair, makeup, accessories, and music- it became trendy because we generated significant profits in pop culture.
    Blackness became a staple in pop culture, a marketable identity packaged by trends, brands, products, and mass consumerism. But it was only when being black became convenient that others wanted to embrace it and capitalism played a significant role. While the true essence of the black community was disregarded, reduced to something to be ridiculed and imitated for personal gain, america made more money off the backs of the black community.
    They want everything associated with being black except the harsh reality of living as a black person in America. This obvliousy, affects way more than just the black-american population, a ton of cultured communites in america have been oppressed this way, and even though their culture is "marketable", them as a people, are still not "in".
    This observation is not a new or trendy opinion, but rather my personal insight into what blackwashing truly means, and capitilism.

    • @sakakiswife
      @sakakiswife 11 месяцев назад +35

      THANK YOIUU🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿

    • @user-fw4uf9dz1y
      @user-fw4uf9dz1y 11 месяцев назад +22

      Facts 👍🏽

    • @user-fw4uf9dz1y
      @user-fw4uf9dz1y 11 месяцев назад +6

      @priince love ur pfp lol

    • @sakakiswife
      @sakakiswife 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@user-fw4uf9dz1y AWWW OMG LOVE UR DOUMA ONE🩷🩷🩷💕💕💕

    • @FBI.Open.Up.
      @FBI.Open.Up. 11 месяцев назад +26

      "a ton of cultured communites in america have been oppressed this way, and even though their culture is "marketable", them as a people, are still not "in". I was just thinking of this as an Indian with curly hair, like 2a or 3a curly hair, not wavy definitely curly but nor coily. We experience this to at a lesser degree but we're still marketable especially bc 97% of Indians have straight hair. That makes me v really sensitive to how curly hair was seen as unattractive or criminal across a two counties I'm from

  • @Itszaylynn
    @Itszaylynn Месяц назад +124

    MLK did not die for this yo

    • @grubsnub
      @grubsnub 8 дней назад +3

      PLEASE 😭😭🙏

  • @W1STER1A.
    @W1STER1A. 11 месяцев назад +719

    people on tiktok are WILD 😭 like faking their races, faking mental problems, what happened to being u being true # self love???
    but anyways 🤬 love ur podcast always ben! your topics are the best (society is crumbling)

    • @madzis.g0ne
      @madzis.g0ne 11 месяцев назад +9

      fr 😭

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 11 месяцев назад +1

      She's not necessarily faking her race, she's just a fan of Hip Hop culture and she wants to try another look. This is no way disrespectful. A lot of young people today can't seem to tell the difference between mockery and cultural appreciation. And who says Hip Hop culture is strictly for BP?... People forget that non-black rappers like Eminem have existed for decades. Every race is involved in Hip Hop culture, especially the Italians.
      Italians like Al Capone were the first gangsters. Italian Greasers are responsible for normalizing plain white tees & blue jeans in the 1950's. Italian mobsters set the trend for pinstripe suits, tilted hats and thin mustaches. Fonz from Happy Days said "Ayyyeee" before it was Hip Hop culture.
      Black-owned Hip Hop clothing brands like FUBU, Cross Colours, Karl Kani and Sean John were mostly inspired by sports apparel and WHITE-owned brands like Polo, Hilfiger and Carhartt.
      Stereotypical black brands like Nike, Gucci, Coogi and Timberland were created by white men as well. White officers are even responsible for sagging pants when they took away the inmate's belts in a penitentiary, then thugs took the style to the streets and rappers & fashion designers copied & capitalized off of it.
      Outside-groups influenced Hip Hop culture. It's not an exclusive traditional culture and it's often a degenerate culture. Hip Hop culture has only existed since about 1979. Braids aren't exclusive to BP either. Nobody had an issue with 'cultural appropriation' until the BLM movement surfaced.

    • @svmb0dy
      @svmb0dy 11 месяцев назад +32

      ​@@Galidorquestbut i can tell u tht, hip hop culture is apart of blk culture.

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@svmb0dy We *started* Hip Hop culture and we're the majority of it, but it's not *exclusive* to us. Unlike the Native Americans, we don't have an exclusive, historic, traditional culture passed down to us. Therefore, it's not cultural appropriation.

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@svmb0dy "cultural appropriation/colonialism and appreciation are two diff things." No they are not. Cultural appropriation is curiosity & appreciation of another group's culture. Colonialism has nothing to do with cultural appropriation either. Colonialism and cultural appropriation are two different things.

  • @earringzarerad
    @earringzarerad 11 месяцев назад +444

    I myself, as a fully Mexican person, relate to wanting to have a culture. I'm white washed, and im very detached from my culture, yet I'm from a very Hispanic area; where you stick out if you're a different ethnicity. Seeing all of my friends and classmates celebrating certain holidays, being bilingual, visiting Mexico on weekends, etc. It made me feel like an outsider, a poser. I felt white, basically, and it made me feel less special and interesting. I cant really explain it, it's more of a "The girls that get it, get it, the girls that don't, don't" type of situation.

    • @zommbys
      @zommbys 11 месяцев назад +71

      I am puerto rican and i also know how this feels, tired of being called a “fake hispanic” cause my dad never taught me spanish or cause i wasnt born on the island.

    • @alexasantos1712
      @alexasantos1712 11 месяцев назад +16

      same with me except im honduran and my mom never taught me spanish

    • @sashaly6667
      @sashaly6667 11 месяцев назад +20

      I get what you mean :/ I’m half white, half Asian. Can’t fully explain it either, but I get the feeling that I’m lame because I’m not bilingual, and that I can’t even really hold chopsticks lmao. Also wearing traditional dresses or hats feels like a costume..

    • @asupersillyperson
      @asupersillyperson 11 месяцев назад +3

      that’s marketed asian i’m pretty sure, using chopsticks, wearing a traditional heirlooms isn’t real asian. it’s marketed. you can be asian or half asian without using chopsticks and stuff like that.

    • @Theconfusedace
      @Theconfusedace 11 месяцев назад +10

      I am black and I feel this way as well and what makes it worse is that my friends make fun of me for it.

  • @user-zl9xc6ez6k
    @user-zl9xc6ez6k 11 месяцев назад +517

    She pretended she was black bcuz there is so much colorism in india and she is much darker than her own family (as seen in pictures) so she just decided to "be black" online bcuz she most likely was bullied for her complexion. She also said she was black bcuz she said the nword MULTIPLE times and sterotyped black people saying on a video "how am I acting white? Sorry I dont have 8 inch nails and I'm ghetto" (she said that even though she LITERALLY made a video saying how shes whitewashed). So basically it was an excuse to be racist to black ppl since shes been bullied for her complexion and seen as a black person. 😬 Lastly, she just wanted clout... 💀

    • @FBI.Open.Up.
      @FBI.Open.Up. 11 месяцев назад +4

      I see black girls wear long oressn on nails now than white girls. Or neither wears it more than the other. I'm just the only Asian who wears press on nails as much

    • @avabackupaccount
      @avabackupaccount 11 месяцев назад

      woww really?? I saw her video talking about how she’s whitewashed a while ago and no one else was really talking abt it

    • @baddiegem6114
      @baddiegem6114 11 месяцев назад +36

      ​@@FBI.Open.Up.no just say african americans :)

    • @superdopegirl
      @superdopegirl 11 месяцев назад +1

      do u know her @ i wanna see her vids

    • @avabackupaccount
      @avabackupaccount 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@superdopegirl I think it was izzygnovel but she got banned

  • @sarah2slayy
    @sarah2slayy 11 месяцев назад +487

    so as a black person it really annoys me to see shit like this because people who do this don’t understand what the black experience is like. it’s not a joke, not a game, and at the end of the day, it’s not something we can just take off. because people who do this still have the privilege of being able to live more comfortably in a society designed for them. which makes it incredibly strange to see a fellow person of color doing this. you would think she would understand the struggle minorities face.

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 11 месяцев назад +5

      But if there's no hate in their heart, then why make a big deal out of it?... I look at it as cultural appreciation. Non-black rappers & Hip Hop enthusiasts have existed for decades and no one gave a shit about them dressing like us until the BLM movement surfaced. If 'cultural appropriation' bothers you, then you're too sensitive.

    • @svmb0dy
      @svmb0dy 11 месяцев назад +76

      ​@@Galidorquestchile.. cultural appropriation/colonialism and appreciation are two diff things.

    • @Galidorquest
      @Galidorquest 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@svmb0dy "cultural appropriation/colonialism and appreciation are two diff things." No they are not. Cultural appropriation is curiosity & appreciation of another group's culture. Colonialism has nothing to do with cultural appropriation either. Colonialism and cultural appropriation are two different things.

    • @sarah2slayy
      @sarah2slayy 11 месяцев назад +51

      @@Galidorquest it’s a big deal because the way they express their “appreciation” is just a mockery and stereotypical of the way black people act, hateful or not. you can be racist unintentionally.

    • @j.r.griffith
      @j.r.griffith 11 месяцев назад +2

      Omg please 😂😂😂

  • @SomePeopleMakeMeSick
    @SomePeopleMakeMeSick 11 месяцев назад +490

    As a person of the black community, me and my people are leaving ✌🏾

  • @anjali_222
    @anjali_222 11 месяцев назад +208

    As an Indian I feel like you oversimplified the struggles many Indians have went through 😭. I am North Indian which gives me a more lighter complexion and bc of that people assume I’m middle eastern or Hispanic. But when they find out I’m Indian, they start saying things like “oh but you don’t act Indian” “you don’t smell Indian”, not to mention the classic Punjab audio they start referencing. They made all these racist remarks towards me and sometimes people even change their behavior towards me upon finding out I’m Indian. I used to let people believe I was Hispanic so they wouldn’t hate me as much. I have finally decided to accept my beautiful culture and in that way I can sympathize with her as to why she is pretending to be something she isn’t. Not saying it’s right ofc but still

    • @angel-ke9vs
      @angel-ke9vs 11 месяцев назад

      You don't smell Indian 😮 like WTF?!!!

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +33

      Yeah but acting as if you’re something you not WHILE stereotyping and disrespecting the very thing you are trying to imitate is beyond me.

    • @anjali_222
      @anjali_222 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@frilledgyaru291 I agree with that, I didn’t end up watching the whole video but whatever the woman is doing is obviously wrong. I just didn’t want our struggles to get oversimplified

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@anjali_222 I agree.

    • @cupidery
      @cupidery 11 месяцев назад +4

      SAME, im south tho but have a light complexion- its so odd

  • @do.re.mi.2713
    @do.re.mi.2713 11 месяцев назад +478

    Hey I'm indian and I loved your video but I wanted to make sure you know that Indians have been through slavery, that's how they ended up in Guyana, Trinidad, South Africa, and the UK. Colonialism did a lot of damage to India and Indians have experienced discrimination like segregation with signs like Dogs and Indians cant enter. But I am glad your experience has not been too bad!

    • @ishikade9172
      @ishikade9172 11 месяцев назад +43

      even in sri lanka, Fiji , Mauritius lots of Indians present due to slavery

    • @Youngneil3289
      @Youngneil3289 11 месяцев назад +68

      That is true but she still shouldn’t have done what she did and still can’t say the n word either.

    • @AnimeArtest1
      @AnimeArtest1 11 месяцев назад +86

      Thats true, but that doesn't mean shes black or can say the N-word

    • @pris.cillaa
      @pris.cillaa 11 месяцев назад +62

      this is true buts she’s not black 🤦🏽‍♀️ she shouldn’t be saying the n word

    • @rahii5598
      @rahii5598 11 месяцев назад +28

      ok but she can’t say the n word.

  • @BrothSoda
    @BrothSoda 11 месяцев назад +125

    I’m a white person (who is Hungarian) and I have no problems with that. Dispite being a white person with “No culture”, I have never felt the need to steal other cultures from people. These people need help-

    • @_.KIA._
      @_.KIA._ 11 месяцев назад +8

      No seriously

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +43

      You have culture,everybody does!And participating in cultures you respect and admire is fine(with respect),it’s the “blackfishing” and everything that’s wrong.

    • @_.KIA._
      @_.KIA._ 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@frilledgyaru291 yea well everyone has a culture kind of excluding North Americans that aren’t native

    • @sytrilyx
      @sytrilyx 11 месяцев назад +24

      @@_.KIA._ culture definition:
      “the customs, arts, social institutions, and achievements of a particular nation, people, or other social group.”
      -oxford languages
      all people have culture, wether they realize it or not x

    • @auroramist1250
      @auroramist1250 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@_.KIA._ why excluding North Americans exactly?

  • @cordeliahale644
    @cordeliahale644 11 месяцев назад +204

    As a southern white woman i can say that the 'culture' or what mimics that sense of having common ground and being part of something bigger........is usually racism.

    • @mxcha.888
      @mxcha.888 11 месяцев назад +12

      Exactly

    • @Yeibaldreamss
      @Yeibaldreamss 11 дней назад

      Racism refers to targeted harassment and genuine hate crimes. I’m sick of people saying stupid stereotypical jokes like “black people like watermelon” are some foul, racist abominations when they really aren’t. It’s just rude- and that’s it. Real racism, as in lynching, physical harassment and demonizing specific groups has been largely eradicated in America and is SO illegal. The fact that people use the term racism so lightheartedly is kind of disgusting. Please stop- saying “white people have no sense of rhythm” isn’t racist 😭🙏

  • @alohathecinnaroll
    @alohathecinnaroll 11 месяцев назад +106

    Me being black myself, black fishing has always been something that I’ve HATED. Like, why y’all wanna be tryna steal our styles? Y’all don’t be knowin the things we deal wit as black people. Everything ain’t no rainbows and butterflies. Just stay the way you are, you’re fine just the way you are, you ain’t gotta be changing up your style and SKIN TONE just to look prettier. Just, omlllll.

    • @evin2484
      @evin2484 11 месяцев назад +5

      Preach sister

    • @patriciahercules6852
      @patriciahercules6852 11 месяцев назад

      She just showed that she cannot get famous being her own race .

    • @extremelyburntout
      @extremelyburntout 11 месяцев назад +1

      im indian so i dont really have anything to say but I notice that its always the people who discriminate against black people who blackfish?

    • @crumarki
      @crumarki 9 месяцев назад

      @@evin2484are you black too?

    • @evin2484
      @evin2484 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@crumarki um yea

  • @shi_nee_unofficial
    @shi_nee_unofficial 11 месяцев назад +135

    so,i'm arab,and my parents moved from tunisia, then to ireland, then to london. i'm very thankful as my area is quite diverse. the majority of my school is either arab and/or muslim so i had no problem fitting in.i'm just very thankful that i'm proud of my culture and i have a lot of oppurtunities

    • @STRQWBRII
      @STRQWBRII 11 месяцев назад +2

      I’m also Arab! :)

    • @Hades44481
      @Hades44481 11 месяцев назад

      ew

    • @STRQWBRII
      @STRQWBRII 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@Hades44481 what is their to say “Ew” about? There is nothing wrong with what she/he just said?

    • @melonenjoyer
      @melonenjoyer 11 месяцев назад

      Yay another fellow person that moves countries constantly, I've been in the situation except well in different countries, and now I'm in Canada also pretty diverse in here

  • @Robin-bv4es
    @Robin-bv4es 11 месяцев назад +100

    As an arab, I've noticed a lot of my peers (and even younger people, around 7-13 years old) are adopting other cultures (especially east asian cultures), and I could honestly chalk it up to feeling underrepresented. I've noticed that even in, say, tv shows with a diverse cast, there's never an arab character (arab, not muslim.). I've definitely felt that way as a child before, and it doesn't help that western culture often alienates and stereotypes the middle east.

    • @retro-rose1194
      @retro-rose1194 11 месяцев назад +7

      Even when they represent the Middle East! They make sure they stick with stereotypes:/

    • @Robin-bv4es
      @Robin-bv4es 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@retro-rose1194 exactly! it frustrates me especially as a queer arab. It truly shows that people aren't capable of viewing other kinds of people beyond overused stereotypes.

    • @forreal2022
      @forreal2022 11 дней назад

      Yesssss EXACTLY! But for me its more of trying to turn white, to be western, to change everything to look similar to them! From not talking in arabic, to completely neglecting their nationality and who they are

  • @Sbilxz
    @Sbilxz 11 месяцев назад +96

    Im half black half white so idk if i have any say in this but i will say that it boils my blood when people do this because what they are doing is getting all of the "perks" of being black without having any knowlage of the culture and the struggles. (sorry i am bad at spelling)

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +15

      You have a say

    • @crumarki
      @crumarki 9 месяцев назад

      Wtf you are a person of the black community. You have a say. Who taught you that you don’t?

  • @m3ta11ica_
    @m3ta11ica_ 11 месяцев назад +13

    25:08 Indian people have experienced slavery; they experienced it during the 'British Raj' or the rule of the East India company. Research it, you'll find out how terribly they were treated.

  • @hyun.e__star
    @hyun.e__star 11 месяцев назад +101

    as an indian, most parents have taught us that our skin color doesnt really matter, i promise, awareness about this topic is being taught in india.

  • @akishi1022
    @akishi1022 11 месяцев назад +53

    I’m half Indian and black (from Guyana) and I heard about this lady before and it’s so wild. I hate people like her or people who are like “I’m one percent black so xyz” trynna excuse themselves.

    • @uniquenewyork3325
      @uniquenewyork3325 11 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, I've got like 10% native american but I'm not about to start wearing feather headdresses and calling myself native american

    • @urgirllai-lai
      @urgirllai-lai 17 дней назад +3

      i'm half indian and nigerian and it's so weird seeing people trying to kind of steal our culture nd shit

  • @crucifyivy
    @crucifyivy 11 месяцев назад +68

    I am an American white person, but my great grandparents were native/German. I agree with you on the fact that white people do not have any race specific culture, save for in parts of Europe. I do not know why people feel the need to adopt a culture that is not theirs. I myself am a part of the gothic subculture, which is music based. My subculture can be for anyone, as long as you listen to the music. Obviously we have so called goths who are just racist, and say you have to be white to be goth.😑 I know that it isn't true.

    • @HelloKitty-iq8tt
      @HelloKitty-iq8tt 11 месяцев назад

      Wait if white people don’t have a specific culture then… what’s our culture. Can’t we just adopt a culture that isn’t ours since we don’t really have one or do we just stay… culture-less? Not trying to be rude in anyway I’m just kind of confused.

    • @maychonglee5883
      @maychonglee5883 11 месяцев назад +7

      All race have culture

    • @crucifyivy
      @crucifyivy 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@HelloKitty-iq8tt I'm mainly talking in America, but I think it depends. Say if you move to another country or are in a relationship with someone from another country, than yes, I would assume it would make sense to adapt to another culture. I just think that music based subcultures are special because race/nationality isn't specific, so anyone can be a part of them.

    • @crucifyivy
      @crucifyivy 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@maychonglee5883 Yeah, you're right, but I do find that in America specifically, assimilation has watered down a lot of culture. For example, I was never taught German because my great grandmother was not allowed to speak it. I really wish I knew more about my ancestors, but sadly I do not.

    • @j.r.griffith
      @j.r.griffith 11 месяцев назад

      You're embarrassing us white people with thos comment

  • @D3V_Official
    @D3V_Official 11 месяцев назад +27

    As an Indian man with a lighter skin tone, I have experienced a little bit of whitewashing as well, My tuition teacher in 9th grade would always joke about me being American or "From The North" because I had a lighter skin tone and I would always feel so uncomfortable, because he would also touch my hands, compare it to his, show it to others, and just get everyone's attention on me. I'm also an introvert so it made me more uncomfortable.

    • @AlexBrooke-me1uj
      @AlexBrooke-me1uj 11 месяцев назад +4

      He should've never touched your hands without permission. That's just wrong, especially from a teacher.

    • @JellyfishYouTube
      @JellyfishYouTube 10 месяцев назад +4

      Wtf is wrong with that guy

    • @daninielle
      @daninielle 9 дней назад

      nah bro... nothing about your skin tone he was prolly js yk... a pedo.

  • @Lunaxoxo3333
    @Lunaxoxo3333 11 месяцев назад +24

    I'm an Indian growing up in India,and I've seen other Indians use the n word COUNTLESS times,they don't bother know the history behind the word or black ppl and their reasoning is we have similar skin tones ,omg the shame i feel from this

    • @johnkingbad
      @johnkingbad 11 дней назад +3

      People need to realize that dark skinned doesn't mean black

    • @dundundun2383
      @dundundun2383 8 дней назад

      It’s kinda messed up but my Indian mom says they used call people that not even trying to be racist when she was young but she is in her 50s

    • @dundundun2383
      @dundundun2383 8 дней назад

      Also she calls Indian that East Asian smaller eyes as having “chinky” eyes which sounds so bad but it’s just how older generations were raised

  • @tanazmeherin
    @tanazmeherin 11 месяцев назад +54

    I’m a Bangladeshi who grew up abroad. As much as her actions disgust me a part of me hurts for her. The colorism in our community (South Asia) is so bad it makes most dark skinned people feel inferior which manifests into racism and self hatred. It all roots back to colonization. We are and will continue to face the affects of colonization for generations to come. It’s quite sad actually. Also about your point on Indians/South Asians not having it as hard as other races is quite backhanded. It’s more nuanced than that. Yes we don’t and will never understand the generational trauma of other races it’s still different. We all have our own struggles and but at the end of the day we all experience systematic racism in one way or the other.

  • @mapleluvssk3tches512
    @mapleluvssk3tches512 11 месяцев назад +24

    19:20 thank you Ben, I really needed to hear that.
    I am a light skinned latina and I have always been self conscious about my skin tone, especially for situations that are focused around Hispanic pride/heritage. I would always ask my self if I belonged or if I stuck out like a sore thumb.
    Background: my Abuelo came from Mexico and met my Abuela who was also Mexican but was a little lighter. Unlike my mothers other siblings she got the light skin gene. Then she married my German father and sense there both light skinned I was also light skinned. My sisters and brother inherited the black hair and face shape while I took after my dads.

    • @oreotypical949
      @oreotypical949 11 месяцев назад +1

      Aw I feel you. Im also a light skinned. I’m also pretty mixed. I’m super pale. Im like the lightest skinned person in my family and I’ve always felt self conscious of it. People would always tell me that I couldn’t be half Mexican because I was too light. 😭😭 I agree with you I really needed to hear this too ❤❤

  • @milanmorris-herring2410
    @milanmorris-herring2410 11 месяцев назад +45

    i saw her on my fyp and knew she wasn’t black i mean you can tell (i’m black)

  • @dilf4life
    @dilf4life 11 месяцев назад +67

    I definitely think that there are a lot of Asian people who just want to be white because as long as we can blame it on colorism and how it is because of social rank in a capitalist society, its not just about skin color. the beauty standard in asian is basically white ppl: pale skin, big eyes(double eyelids), high nose bridge

    • @kleeyourenemies2927
      @kleeyourenemies2927 11 месяцев назад

      I feel like it's more about their history tho...like if you check, even before asians had any connection with the west, you could see that in their portraits they have like white, literal white skin. Not only in Asia but also in Europe, check the portraits of royalties and you'll find that they were all pretty pale. It's more a thing of status both in Europe and Asia, but as we can see it's stronger in Asia... if you had a darker skin tone you were poor because you worked in the fields under the sun meanwhile if you had pale skin that meant you never had to work in the sun and actually tried to protect yourself from it so you were rich. That's it.
      Pale skin=noble heritage
      And for the the other beauty standards: big eyes make you look younger and the high bridge is not a Western beauty standard (it is the button nose with a low bridge i think) meanwhile in Asia i think it's the straight nose.

    • @dilf4life
      @dilf4life 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@kleeyourenemies2927 im asian who live in asia bro, i know. A LOT of people here want to look white. if you said to someone they look like a white person, its a complement. and about the nose thing, they literally come to the plastic surgeon asking for white people nose the high nose bridge thing, we literally call that "western nose"

    • @kleeyourenemies2927
      @kleeyourenemies2927 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@dilf4life jesus then this is way worse than i thought😀

    • @izzalrahizam8865
      @izzalrahizam8865 11 месяцев назад

      @@kleeyourenemies2927 nahhhhh

    • @GOJOistheBESTuRAT
      @GOJOistheBESTuRAT 11 месяцев назад

      @@dilf4life 😭…

  • @Mrs.swaggintonthe1st
    @Mrs.swaggintonthe1st 11 месяцев назад +16

    Hi Ben, around 25:38 You said that Indians haven't experienced anything similar to slavery which is kind of true but in South African history Indians were imported by Europeans to work in Durban which is why there's a predominantly large population of Indians in South Africa I don't know if I'd say it was as impactful as slavery but it did happen. 😅 I'm African btw before y'all try dox me💀👍🏽

  • @charthesmile
    @charthesmile 11 месяцев назад +11

    there’s a kid in my grade who, up until 7th grade, told everyone he was black. he is indian. 100% indian. why he did it? no fricking clue.

    • @AlexBrooke-me1uj
      @AlexBrooke-me1uj 11 месяцев назад

      Damn. Has he said sorry for doing that?

    • @charthesmile
      @charthesmile 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@AlexBrooke-me1uj not to my knowledge. he told everyone it was his history month during black history month.

    • @AlexBrooke-me1uj
      @AlexBrooke-me1uj 11 месяцев назад

      @@charthesmile That's so fucked up. Did he stop himself, or did he stop because someone found out? Or has he even stopped?

  • @Rimjhimjiii
    @Rimjhimjiii 11 месяцев назад +21

    As an Indian this sucks like what and like I feel bad for them they’re hating hating their own culture and alsoooo vijay is a name of a big Tamil hollywood/ kollywood actor

  • @uhm-ff8xk
    @uhm-ff8xk 11 месяцев назад +17

    as a Southeast Asian, i just wanna say that stuff like this is insane. we do not claim her, and are glad she doesnt have a problem with that. trust me when i say, we are not like her and most of us are actually pretty chill…..unless they’re an Americanized Southeast Asian.

  • @siritsandhu
    @siritsandhu 11 месяцев назад +37

    I’m fully Indian and born in America, but I haven’t been bullied at school for my culture. But it kind of shocks me that people bullied you for culture, it’s your own culture and you shouldn’t be bullied for it. Anyways, I luv your videos Ben ❤ Also, just wondering, what area of India is your family from? If you’re fine with answering 😊

    • @AvniShrimali
      @AvniShrimali 11 месяцев назад +2

      Same with me. I don't get bullied ever for being Indian because everyone would hate them for that. However, I live in Australia and sometimes there are so casual racism like people making fun of the panjabi mc song beware of the boys and they always go like ringadingading. It's annoying but yeh. Also I think Ben is from Goa I think because that state was owned by the Portuguese like Ben said. Goa is an independent state.

    • @Spydr..
      @Spydr.. 11 месяцев назад

      In a video Ben said that his dad was from kerala.

    • @serahjoby6250
      @serahjoby6250 11 месяцев назад

      @@Spydr.. omggg yahhh malayaliii les gooo

  • @mothwood4781
    @mothwood4781 11 месяцев назад +21

    As a white person it's always interesting to see this kinda stuff. To be fair I'm not American, but it's strange to see people try and identify with other cultures and makes me kinda sad. I think it's definitely like a more personal insecurity then anything and it sucks because it's hurting more than just them. I think there's also this feeling of needing to be discriminated in some way to justify your own emotions, particularly with people who are straight, neurotypical, cis, white and stuff. It's wild.

    • @its_yourgirlyyy_
      @its_yourgirlyyy_ 11 месяцев назад +2

      HELP WHY DO I ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE THIS. like I would NEVER od what she did but I feel like none of my struggles are valid because I feel like a boring person and i feel as if people dislike me because I'm white

    • @mothwood4781
      @mothwood4781 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@its_yourgirlyyy_ That's not at all true! You may not experience racial struggles but the fact that you don't doesn't invalidate any of the other experiences you have. It's always good to recognize your privilege but that doesn't mean you don't struggle at all. Everyone struggles to some degree, and that's okay. ❤

    • @its_yourgirlyyy_
      @its_yourgirlyyy_ 11 месяцев назад

      @@mothwood4781 thank you tho for that

  • @Frankesu666
    @Frankesu666 11 месяцев назад +68

    I’m white. And I’m COMPLETELY FINE with being WHITE. I have my own culture (celtic culture) and don’t understand why people are so uncomfortable with being the race they were born. Every race is beautiful and equal. stay safe y’all ❤️❤️

    • @ginack19
      @ginack19 11 месяцев назад +22

      people need to stop saying that being fully british for example is somehow 'boring' or 'not as cool or exciting' as other cultures. Everyone's roots are equally interesting. I have a long Irish and French-Canadian ancestry but am quite disconnected from that culture myself, only really identifying as British.

    • @j.r.griffith
      @j.r.griffith 11 месяцев назад +11

      Thsnk you! We need more voices like this. I'm white and fucking proud! 1000%

    • @pluto-kl5od
      @pluto-kl5od 11 месяцев назад +7

      you know what they say, "everyone always wants to be something they're not".

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ginack19 Not to be rude but I really haven’t seen the interesting side of Bristish culture,is there actually something?😅/g

    • @ginack19
      @ginack19 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@frilledgyaru291 well britain is separated into england and then the celtic countries : wales, scotland and northern ireland. the celtic countries have their own foods and style of dance, traditional dress etc so have a very distinct culture. in england its hard to distinguish between what is our culture and what is just our history, i dont think there has been a continuous culture that has passed through time really but i guess like other countries we have traditional dishes like say mince pies for example. also in a country which is so ethnically diverse, british culture means a lot of different things to a lot of people, our national dish is literally tikka masala, a product of indian immigration.

  • @SiriHiremath
    @SiriHiremath 11 месяцев назад +12

    I feel like these topics need to be talked about and researched more in this society. I definitely agree with his perspective as someone who is half Indian and half Mexican. Some people have an obsession with cultures and races that aren't theirs that cross the line. Colorism, where you grow up, and stereotypes definitely play a part in situations like this. I didn't even know you were Indian, that so cool btw!

  • @hrts4niaa
    @hrts4niaa 11 месяцев назад +24

    as a west Indian, Im honestly disgusted on how people can like blackfish it’s just weird, all races are equal. I don’t understand why people do this it’s just messed up. 🤦‍♀️

  • @205._gang
    @205._gang 11 месяцев назад +14

    the beginning where u talked about ur childhood really spoke to me. Im half asian half white. Ive always been too white for the asian kids or too asian for the white kids. I have had so many identity changes. I was into my white side but then i realized i wanted to learn my asian culture. But I feel like I will never look asian enough or white enough for people to accept me. being a mixed kid is a struggle people dont really talk about.

    • @alexasantos1712
      @alexasantos1712 11 месяцев назад +1

      same I'm Honduran and white with very pale skin so i don't know where i stand, especially not being able to speak Spanish in my predominantly Hispanic neighborhood. Its embarrassing telling my Hispanic friends i can't speak Spanish so i have no idea what they're saying.

  • @kittyruth8336
    @kittyruth8336 11 месяцев назад +19

    Ok well, I am black and as a young black girl, like not even 15 I have experienced racism before and bullying. Obviously when you are bullied for things that make me ethnic like my curly hair and dark skin, it made me want to get rid of those things, I have permanently straightened my hair, and when it comes to my skin, I am very insecure about it still, and sometimes still want to find a way to bleach it. I know it’s sad, but that’s where white washing has come to me. I don’t want pity, I was just wanting to share. For anyone out there, your hair is beautiful. It’s your crown, so make sure you treat it right 💗

    • @AlexBrooke-me1uj
      @AlexBrooke-me1uj 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm really, really sorry you have to go through that. No one should.

    • @GD-xn5cn
      @GD-xn5cn 9 месяцев назад +1

      Your a queen and ur beautiful, forget the haters. As Afro Latino I finally love my black side from my Dad and my Spanish side from my Mom. You know how many people want to be black and how many men love black women around the world. Don't let those people get to u,it's big world and ur just probably around some racist people that hate themselves.#onelove

  • @aradhyatyagi2488
    @aradhyatyagi2488 11 месяцев назад +7

    as an indian i feel EMBARRASED

  • @ameliaSOS
    @ameliaSOS 11 месяцев назад +29

    Im a white person, i completely agree with the no culture thing, even i get jealous sometimes that there not anything special about me culturaly but id never just take somebody else's and claim its my own. But I do really love japan and japans culture but for me its appreciating it instead of stealing it, i'd never try to pretend i'm Japanese

    • @frilledgyaru291
      @frilledgyaru291 11 месяцев назад +7

      I’m sure you have culture,maybe you’re just a bit discomennected,what are you?😄

    • @ameliaSOS
      @ameliaSOS 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@frilledgyaru291 Im just white, both of my parents are white, i grew up in arizona and now i live in a different state in the US

    • @waterhealerr
      @waterhealerr 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ameliaSOSWhat country of Europe does your family come from?

    • @ameliaSOS
      @ameliaSOS 11 месяцев назад

      @@waterhealerr mostly Germany and England

    • @waterhealerr
      @waterhealerr 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@ameliaSOS Germany most certainly has culture. England is iffy but depending on which region there is def also culture. I recommend just looking into it :)

  • @maka_maku_machu
    @maka_maku_machu 11 месяцев назад +27

    I'm Korean Mexican, seeing all the craziness with Oli London and how openly he (he goes by he/him again) was talking about "switching race and culture." We've also seen this huge shift in pop culture following the success of kpop in north America, while also continuing to gentrify and take parts of other non-white cultures. We saw celebrities like Ariana Grande trying to look more Hispanic, and it's always made me wonder why. Like bro ain't you got your own thing going on 😭😭 thx for making this video ben ❤❤

    • @its_yourgirlyyy_
      @its_yourgirlyyy_ 11 месяцев назад

      From a very white person idk ig we sometimes feel like we got nothing going on and we feel boring bcs of it- like we feel "bland" and stuff is the best way I can describe it.

  • @iluv_cookies
    @iluv_cookies 12 дней назад +3

    I am 25% filipino and 25% irish so my whole race thing is rlly weird. i get a lot of , “ r u Mexican, like columbian”. In the winter i’m very pale so i look so white but i tan in the summer rlly well so the amount of “what race are you” comments are absolutely insane. i try to know some stuff about my filipino culture like food and some of the language (i forgot the name and no it’s not called filipino, stop) but i rlly want to know more about my culture. i’m proud it’s just sometimes confusing.

  • @leomiso
    @leomiso 11 месяцев назад +60

    One of my racism experiences: I am a Japanese-white (wasian) who is pretty connected to her culture. I was born in Japan, I can speak Japanese, I know a lot of traditions, etc. but I dont look full of course because of my white side but I do pass as Japanese in Hawaii (where I live) but I don’t really pass back home in Japan. This story occurs in third grade so I can’t really blame the kid who said it to me but it’s was a brown boy who I believe is Hawaiian or another form of Pacific Islander. He came up to me with a book about WW2 looking pissed, pushed the book into my face, and said, “I know I don’t know you but I hope you die now because of what your people did to us..” He was referring to the Pearl Harbor bombing that happened on another Hawaiian island. I didn’t know what to say in the moment but I was genuinely just stunned. I know this case is mild compared to others but I find it shocking that racism is actually pretty common within groups of POC and it’s not always white people targetting them. 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

    • @FBI.Open.Up.
      @FBI.Open.Up. 11 месяцев назад +7

      I'm extremely sorry you went thrifty that. No one is responsible for the actions of theor race in the past. And not one race on earth is innocent from wartime acts, or ruthlessness in riots. Not one. As for racism within POC groups, there were rival gangs formed within POC groups in the early 90s. As well as clear racism within POC groups back then. There still is its a bit more subtle now. Amd that ignorant boy forgot about the interment camps for Japanese POW after WW2. Thosw camps were inhumane. Someone should also educate him about Chiune Sugihara, a Japanese diplomat who served as vice-consul for the Japanese Empire in Kaunas, Lithuania. During the Second World War, Sugihara helped thousands of Jews flee Europe by issuing transit visas to them so that they could travel through Japanese territory, risking his job and the lives of his family. The fleeing Jews were refugees from German-occupied Western Poland and Soviet-occupied Eastern Poland, as well as residents of Lithuania. In 1985, the State of Israel honored Sugihara as one of the Righteous Among the Nations for his actions

    • @lovelyqu
      @lovelyqu 11 месяцев назад

      that’s a horrible thing to say. i’m so sorry about that. don’t listen to the fucker

  • @bhargavipkh
    @bhargavipkh 11 месяцев назад +8

    In India, there is internalized colorism and racism so as a result of that i have seen people act like that and have seen them say the n word too. Furthermore, taking an example of Lily Singh on RUclips who did in fact use AAVE and kids have idolized her so other kids learnt bad habits or things. It is wrong but it is common but education and corrsction is necessary to prevent this situation- not necessarily from friends and family but know your own worth and your own culture and be proud of that.
    Ben thank you for educting us❤!

  • @penguin22penguin22
    @penguin22penguin22 11 месяцев назад +10

    15:58 literally this guy in my class says the n-word all the time when he is from EGYPT being from Africa DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BLACK. He says he's technically "half-black" Because his mom looks darker (she isnt black btw) Like it is SO DUMB. He says it all the time. Nobody does anything, some people tried but it's impossible cuz he's a popular kid.

    • @_Buggg_.
      @_Buggg_. 11 месяцев назад +5

      OMG SAME THIS EGYPTIAN GIRL I USED TO BE FRIENDS WITH IN 6th grade would not stop saying it , she kept on saying after we told her not too and I just immediately stopped being friends with her, it was so annoying because she would call me and my other friend “monkeys”, “jiga****” , etc. then would make fun of other African countries.

    • @user-yr1eg9ct6e
      @user-yr1eg9ct6e 11 месяцев назад

      @@_Buggg_. oh my days wtfff 💀💀💀

    • @penguin22penguin22
      @penguin22penguin22 11 месяцев назад

      @@_Buggg_. Oh gosh that sounds even WORSE.. But the thing about the guy in my class he sometimes makes racist jokes also... Im so sorry you had to go through having a friend like that, it must've been terrible.!

    • @elephant4053
      @elephant4053 12 дней назад +1

      This one girl I knew told people she was the female Kim Jong Un (she was ¼ Chinese) and I found her old Instagram where she told people she was latina because her mum had relatives who lived in Mexico. She was Scottish- accent and everything. People be wild

  • @lolpoop7685
    @lolpoop7685 11 месяцев назад +12

    wait she said she was Indian and black on her TikTok when she was showing her childhood pictures my mind is blown..... idk why ppl do that its very disgusting and unattractive now ik she was lying thank God ppl still exposes ppl who try to change their race.

  • @jelly_beans123
    @jelly_beans123 11 месяцев назад +6

    I'm a South Indian on the lighter side but one side of my family is really dark and my sister is similar to their complexion and all I hear from people is asking how we're related and how i'm the "normal" sibling and the crazy thing is all this comes from other indians that are sometimes even as dark as my sister. it's just crazy how indians truly have serious internalized racism even in a place such as America where I live where this should be the place where we all blend culture. People always assume i'm Hispanic or North Indian just not South Indian because I'm lighter and I don't really look South Indian. I'm also Christian and most people that learn that are shocked because no one expects indians to not be muslim or hindu and they call me whitewashed when both sides of my family has been christians long before the British even came to India...indian's biggest enemy are themselves and i don't think the racism between us will ever end because literally everyone has partook in some type of casual racism against each other even me. And the whole thing about Izzy saying the n-word, i was not surprised she has because im not lying when i say that almost every indian guy i know says the n-word and where i'm from is very indian populated. they have this idea that bc they're brown they can say it and it's normalized...

  • @ily_arusha70_
    @ily_arusha70_ 11 месяцев назад +12

    I love this guy nd his energy nd i relate to him sm he seems like such a cool person to be friends w 😭

  • @ExistentialConfusion
    @ExistentialConfusion 11 месяцев назад +12

    And then there’s adriana grande black washing herself💀
    Edit: damn, you mentioned her too
    Right, so I’m Chinese and wanted to be white when I was in 2nd grade since it was the majority and I wanted to fit in. Blonde hair, blue eyes, everything. Now I take pride in my race although some people still say shit like ching chong which is just stupid, and I mainly just ignore it or accept it as a joke

  • @-lemonade-9412
    @-lemonade-9412 11 месяцев назад +6

    As an Indian, we don’t claim her.

  • @defnotiva
    @defnotiva 5 месяцев назад +6

    Vijay means victory 😭 but i understand ur point

  • @mxcha.888
    @mxcha.888 11 месяцев назад +9

    Honestly as a white person when you say "white people don't have culture" I can agree with that. Though there are stereotypes and there are certain ways of our culture they're not like what people would consider to be "unique" if you know what I mean? Like for some white people our culture isn't something to be proud of because at least in my opinion I think a lot of Americans are hateful people. So yes, I definitely do think that it's common for white people to try to "steal" other cultures because of how ours is almost like non-existent. I think you definitely make some good points

    • @floryct
      @floryct 9 месяцев назад +1

      I agree. It’s very sad to see that especially in america and canada how many people abandoned their cultures to fit in and how at the time of immigration, and how much that has had an impact into creating a mono-white culture. Personally, all of my greek family were given typical white/english names to fit in in the 1960’s and it sucks that we gave that up. :(

  • @sophiemoore2262
    @sophiemoore2262 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ive been waiting for this topic🙌

  • @iloveu207
    @iloveu207 11 месяцев назад +8

    Wait can we all take a moment bc the dude who always thought he was Korean finally accepted the fact he’s not and is starting to make videos saying he’s not Korean growth im proud of him tbh😭🥹

  • @nuhi786
    @nuhi786 11 месяцев назад +10

    I’m an East African girl but a lot of the time people say to me you’re Indian or from Thailand Africa has different features from the east and the north west and the south

  • @FeelNotSoGoodInc.-cx9cp
    @FeelNotSoGoodInc.-cx9cp 11 месяцев назад +7

    Some drama- My friends keep ignoring me especially on call or in the gc. They always talk about stuff they like but when I talk about mine they respond with “K” or “Oh.” Or ignore it most of the time. I just don’t feel respected or included anymore. Not really good drama but I still appreciate it if Uve seen this Ben I really love the podcasts keep it up thanks

    • @sophiepurtell
      @sophiepurtell 11 месяцев назад +3

      I would just make new friends bc if there not respect you are at least put in the effort to talk to you or at least act like they care then they aren't really ur friends (I know u didn't ask for my opinion but I hope this helps!) ❤ have a good day and I wish you the best 😊

    • @CoolBabyGamerisCoolisMySister
      @CoolBabyGamerisCoolisMySister 11 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe make other friends, tell them how you feel and if they don't change or try to and slowly start leaving them? I did something like this onceee but it doesn't work for everyone-- hopefully this helps and ben better see this >:(((((

    • @FeelNotSoGoodInc.-cx9cp
      @FeelNotSoGoodInc.-cx9cp 11 месяцев назад

      @@CoolBabyGamerisCoolisMySister That might work guess but i also struggle to make new friends so it might take a while. Im gonna wait a bit and see how it goes

  • @ashleysbored6710
    @ashleysbored6710 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think what you said about white Americans lacking culture is so true. I can't even count how many countries I have ancestors from, so there's no real cultural heritage other than my grandmother being from Scotland.

  • @LisaLee__
    @LisaLee__ 7 дней назад +1

    So incredibly refreshing especially one specific part about not having it as bad as a certain other race. Im scared to even write this but im just glad to hear this coming from you especially with your background. Like, Gen Z is going to be okay if you guys have such evolved views. Oh to be 10 years younger dude my goodness lol good for you

  • @mammadingo9165
    @mammadingo9165 11 месяцев назад +1

    I find it sad, so much unique newness is burried under people not accepting their authentic selves. 😢

  • @Lemonberryz
    @Lemonberryz 11 месяцев назад +12

    As someone who is 100% middle eastern but born with a lighter skin tone. I have experienced many people wether they were joking or not, tell me that I wasn’t middle eastern and that I was white because of my skin color and my hair type. I’m not sending any hate towards white people but I’ve just always found it annoying to be called white or whitewashed, since it just felt like my culture or my genuine race was being ignored or joked about. I also have experienced many people hate or laugh about my culture as well as Arab music (not every middle eastern is Arab, I just am!), saying that it was “trash” or “what the hell is that?” While they fantasize other foreign languages music such as Spanish. (No hate to anybody who speaks Spanish, I love the language and the music as well! This is just based off my personal experience) not to mention I have experienced this from all age groups. I’ve also had hate towards my religion, but I’ve already typed a lot to even tell any stories on that😭
    Remember that even if you have experienced such hate or you felt confused and unsure about your culture or religion, do not let it get to you! You should always be proud of who you are🩷

    • @Levamii
      @Levamii 11 месяцев назад +2

      My lord I couldn’t relate to this any more. I’m also middle eastern and received that exact treatment! So sorry you have people telling you what you are and what you aren’t.

    • @Lemonberryz
      @Lemonberryz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Levamii yeah, there’s a lot of hate towards middle easterns I feel. Especially after 9/11.
      And don’t worry, I’m plenty aware of who I am and nobody can tell me otherwise. It just stings sometimes but it’s nothing I can’t get through.

    • @Levamii
      @Levamii 11 месяцев назад +1

      @Melody-ik6by I completely understand. Nowadays there is literal debates on what middle easterns truly are. For example when I tell someone I'm middle eastern I have people say "so white?" "so western asian?" "So European?" It's very annoying.. especially because the USA has a different system than outside of the USA for example middle easterns in the US are considered to be white Caucasians although on the other hand outside of the US we are considered to fall under either western asians or european!
      Having people telling us what we are and what we aren't can get under my skin sometimes as alot of people don't understand the difference between race and ethnicity. People use our appearance to tell us what we are and what we aren't. So..I definitely agree with you! So glad you're able to stay true to yourself

    • @Lemonberryz
      @Lemonberryz 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Levamii if this didn’t perfectly describe the majority of our situations I don’t know what else would. Me and my siblings have been told to be a race far from middle eastern. Judging based off the skin tone, even in a harmless manner, it’s still upsetting.

    • @Levamii
      @Levamii 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Lemonberryz exactly!

  • @lmnop447
    @lmnop447 11 месяцев назад +6

    drama time!! i have a friend that i don’t want to be friends with. she expects everyone to care abt stuff she cares abt but doesn’t care abt anyone else’s interests. and she thinks white men are oppressed. anyways idk how to cut her off…she thinks we’re besties, also her mom is my dance teacher and WILL post abt me on facebook. so yea love your podcast and you. have a beautiful day 💚💚

    • @lmnop447
      @lmnop447 11 месяцев назад +1

      also sorry realizing this is very long…didn’t rlly know how else to say it

    • @avabackupaccount
      @avabackupaccount 11 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a difficult thing to deal with but you probably have to try hanging out with other people or find someone else to be closer with since that won’t directly be cutting her off it will just be as if you kind of became distant and the friendship just faded. You could confront her but it could make a more difficult situation.

  • @Aiaikakao
    @Aiaikakao 11 месяцев назад +2

    Your story is exactly what my dad had to go through after moving to Kentucky from Japan, he got extremely bullied for not being a full white person to the point that he never acknowledged his heritage. My dad really regrets not learning anything about his culture because he realized he can’t pass it on to me and my brother.

  • @CelineBally23
    @CelineBally23 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'm an Trinidadian was surprised you mentioned my country.😅❤ I am west Indian, people told me I look like a Chineses and a Spanish. I'm a thick fair-skinned woman who have an French name Celine. 😂😂 So I as fars as I know I am an Indian and I just laugh about it whenever people called me that.😂😂

  • @caughtin4k359
    @caughtin4k359 11 месяцев назад +13

    I am half white and half Caribbean and the difference on how comfortable I am with Americans (mainly white Americans) versus other caribbeans is crazy. I grew up in both the Caribbean and America and have spend more time in the Caribbean. When I moved to America I had to change the way I spoke and acted so that people would look at me the same. But when I’m in the Bahamas while I do get poked fun at by my cousins and friends for being half white I’ve never felt uncomfortable around Bahamians like I do Americans. I can speak the way I want and talk about the same things. Down to the mannerisms of the people there is such a huge difference. So I do understand why people would want to be whitewashed or need to to have a normal life in America but I don’t understand blackfishing or Asian fishing, etc.

    • @CoolBabyGamerisCoolisMySister
      @CoolBabyGamerisCoolisMySister 11 месяцев назад +1

      I guess some people see ethnicity as a trend which like n o :) but I get that as diverse as America may be (internalized) xenophobia, racism etc is still a problem which suckssss hopefully you don't have to change yourself some day to "fit in"

    • @ReplyIfyoumad
      @ReplyIfyoumad 11 месяцев назад +1

      I feel the same way just not for the wanting to be white wash I love my thick hair even though it be getting poofy and I love my features but I understand where your coming from (I'm Puerto Rican and Italian and Mexican-The Italian and Mexican part is from one of my parents the other one if full blood Puerto Rican they came up after a few years when my grandma wanted to start a new life

  • @kayemendi4501
    @kayemendi4501 11 месяцев назад +3

    I have biracial children. They are half black and half white mexican. They are fully integrated into both their cultures and races.
    Parents who mix have to be open to discussing race and culture because their children will be negatively affected if they don’t.

  • @zoechloe5526
    @zoechloe5526 10 месяцев назад +4

    It’s okay to like culture and learn about. I personally am interested in learning more about Japanese culture. However, I’m NOT going to get plastic surgery, change my name, claim I’m Asian, and get annoyed when people say I’m not. It’s different to like a culture and wear a shirt that has a different language on it than to pretend you are from that culture.

  • @sachsoup
    @sachsoup 11 месяцев назад +6

    I'm Filipino, which is pretty far from you guys, but I dislike whitewashing and colourism. I've seen numerous skin whitening lotion and soap commercials, the obsession with glutathione, and the fact that they're also obsessed with Eurocentric features... I remember not liking my nose because it was flat and not *"matangos".* Other than that, most actors here are pale and have some Eurocentric features.

  • @hiccup7457
    @hiccup7457 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hellooo, im half filipino and my mom's the filipino one and it's actually insane how many times I've had to tell her NOT to bleach her skin or use those kind of skin care products that do that. Besides appearance that she tries to change, because she thinks her skin is ugly, which it definitely isn't like she looks like s goddesss.. she really tries to get me and my sister into our culture and everything which I'm super thankful for and all. My white bald dad is also super great with all of it and makes sure my mom doesn't do stuff that like gets her skin cancer or something. My mom has gotten surgery for a nose bridge already and honestly I'm just like do what makes you feel great, because even though she's doing this she makes sure not to forget her culture and family and everything, on top of that she knows 4 filipino dialects and I'm just glad she never fully whitewashed herself like she wanted to before. Also, since I'm half filipino, my hair is like super curly and thick naturally, and now my hair is always really bad looking and dead because my mom put a straightening chemical in it which caused it to be straight forever and it wore off and now my hair literally just looks straight and dead and on top of that I hate having straight hair and I always have hated getting my hair straightened. So now I get to wait like 5 years to get my natural hair to grow back in because my hair grows super slowly. Basically, appearance wise, it's insane how much my mom tries to throw away. I'm glad I got to share that in this comment section, so uhhhhhhhhh yeah bye

  • @freakshow7739
    @freakshow7739 11 месяцев назад +4

    I agree with all things he says besides what he said here 25:08. Asian people have experienced forms of slavery. During ancient China 5% of the Chinese population was enslaved and Japan had an official slave system during the third century and finally had it abolished in the 1930s.

  • @Dead_Internally
    @Dead_Internally 11 месяцев назад +6

    I’m Danish, my culture is Lego and the Little mermaid 😂

  • @N_ei_L
    @N_ei_L 11 месяцев назад +5

    5:05 My guy you're half Indian, I felt like you'd know that Vijay (विजय) means Victory in Sanskrit.

    • @miilktyong_
      @miilktyong_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      i meannn he is white as wellll soooo like what do u expect white ppl always find a way

    • @N_ei_L
      @N_ei_L 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@miilktyong_ True lmfao.

  • @-_Alina_
    @-_Alina_ 9 месяцев назад +3

    I’m from Pakistan which is a neighbouring country to India and being one of the darker ones I can tell you that their is racism/colourism (kinda?) imbedded in our culture so it’s weird why she would do this. I’m not sure why but everybody seems to think that’s it’s bad that I have darker skin and whenever it’s summer time they tell me to stay inside or where sunscreen to not get tanned. But they never say it too my lighter cousin it’s like she gets praised for having lighter skin and they panic when she goes outside in the summer too beacuse they are scared of her getting tanned which is weird but honestly I have never really cared about it. I think she probably did this too “fit” in but still doesn’t make it an excuse.

    • @ammarahNOMAN
      @ammarahNOMAN 8 месяцев назад +1

      Colourism heavily effects people.. I'm an Indian and since I was a child I've seen that people with a fair skin get praised ALOT! and this made me super upset i didn't even knew my skin tone bcz i played alot in the sun and i used to get really tanned i thought I had a dark skin I was ugly the society engraves the fair beauty standard in our head since our childhood.. we can't feel confident if our skin isn't fair i hate it so much bcz I have a seasonal skin tone and I get dark and light every season.. i just hate asian standards

  • @pris.cillaa
    @pris.cillaa 11 месяцев назад +19

    we really are the blueprint if people are trying to be us 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @shalbec3232
      @shalbec3232 11 месяцев назад

      But they will deny it they are using our feautures for beauty trends and standard it wrong and should be illegal

  • @ErieRosewood
    @ErieRosewood 10 дней назад +1

    Growing up in New Jersey, it genunly baffled me how so many people talked about "being the only indian kid" it wasnt until i was gushing about lehengas to my roomate that i decided to look up little indias near me, thinking there was one in philly. there isnt, but central jersey is _the_ hub for indian americans. one town theyre actually the majority, which is the only one in america. i took a lot of honors classes in hs, so of course half of my classmates were indian. sometimes it surprises me how few there are in my college in vt.

  • @Whatever_Cat
    @Whatever_Cat 11 месяцев назад +1

    I mean, the great thing about the U.S places where there are so many different races all in the same areas, a lot of cultural things have been shared around and I think that sharing things like recipes and traditions can be a very binding, positive thing if not taken to such a crazy extent as Ben talks about here :)

  • @sallynx51
    @sallynx51 11 месяцев назад +6

    OMG HE USED MY DRAMA TYSM BEN I love your content!!

  • @ni_c00pt
    @ni_c00pt 11 месяцев назад +4

    I think your so right about American white people appropriating cultures because they have none, it’s something I’ve been thinking about a lot. It’s kinda sad tbh- I think culture is so important, and not having one at all would feel really weird. Most white Americans abandoned their cultures to create a mono white culture, since there used to be a lot of fighting between white people. By uniting all white cultures under a ‘white’ label, it was easier to unite them against ‘non white’ cultures. Idk if this makes since, but It’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while.

  • @LoviBear
    @LoviBear 11 месяцев назад +1

    hey ben! i just wanted to clear up the things about a lot of asian countries marketing skin bleaching products. usually in more of eastern asia (or at least china) being more pale skinned makes you appear more attractive, rich, or powerful in a sense. i don't remember the phrase but when i was in school learning chinese, we started learning very common phrases that you should not be offended by. one of them was something that translates to "pale skinned woman" or "white woman" and it's mainly used as a compliment. it's like saying "oh wow, your skin is beautiful!" i didn't really understand it myself, but I'm pretty sure it is more of just attractiveness. having paler skin also makes you appeal younger, and everyone can agree that nobody wants to get older. so of course a lot of bleaching products are produced and sold in markets. this is also a bit unrelated but during when china was devided up into many nations, women who were seen as more on the heavy side and pale skinned were sometimes thought out to be very wealthy. having more skin on you makes you seem more well fed compared to somebody skinny. and if you were quite pale at the same time, that really ads to it cause people might assume you have quite the easy life. like staying at home and lounging on your couch all day, not a care in the world. well that's all, thanks for taking the time to read my rant lmao
    (edit: sorry for any typos, too lazy to fix)

  • @jaded4me
    @jaded4me 11 месяцев назад +3

    as for the colorism note, i can speak on the experiences i have as mainly of southeast asian descent (filipino and a bit of chinese). throughout the philippines and most of east asia as well, having lighter skin goes back to the idea that those who worked in the farms and fields were typically of lower class. due to sun exposure, they typically had a darker complexion to those of "higher class" who were able to stay inside or work jobs that did not require much manual labor. that is the main piece of the reasoning behind the massive colorism for most of asia (east, southeast, and south) from my knowledge. obviously, there are other factors depending on the country that fortifies this idea into the culture. for example, in philippines, because of colonism from spain, we were encouraged to become of lighter complexion due to the mentality forced upon us by our colonizers from the west, including a fairer complexion. it is honestly sad that centuries later this idea is still so ingrained in most of asia. i am naturally very pale (literally ghostly white as a baby) and do not tan easily, which is typically uncommon among my extended family and most filipinos. the amount of praise received from purely fitting into this beauty standard juxtaposing the amount of critic i witness other family members receive because they do not, makes me so frustrated and sad. in the philippines though that specific aspect is improving, though there are many other harms within our beauty standards we need to address.

  • @norahsimon4447
    @norahsimon4447 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’m white, but I have never felt the urge to do this. I thank the fact that I am Jewish for that. It is a culture in a way, we have food, clothes, holidays, and languages that are just Jewish and I am very glad for that. This is ridiculous, I can see why people have the urge, but nobody should act on it.

  • @CHXSER
    @CHXSER 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm a huge mix of a ton of cultures, but the main four are Native American, British, Italian, and French Canadian. And to be honest I will never truly understand why people are so desperate to be different cultures. Like just embrace your own!! It's ok to be interested in a culture other than your own but being envious or almost mocking that culture is not ok. :(

  • @mimigrace0907
    @mimigrace0907 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm half-white and half-Filipino and on the lighter side, and my mom always praises me for having a lighter skin color. She also told me about all the whitening products they have in the Philippines as well as surgeries and injections you can get to make your nose less wide. I find it interesting that in many Asian countries, the beauty standard is to look as "white" as possible yet in the U.S many want to look tanner or even go as far as to blackfish.

  • @vedangisingh4151
    @vedangisingh4151 3 месяца назад +6

    Umm I mostly agree with you. The only point I disagree with is when you said that Asian people have NEVER experienced slavery at 25:00 because if you know anything about Indian history, you should know that during the colonial era, there was infact slavery. Indian people were enslaved by the Britishers. I think you should look into it. Apart from that, I loved the video 💗

  • @leeberry4ever
    @leeberry4ever 11 дней назад +3

    AS a member of the Indian community I proudly say we do not claim her

  • @biggail
    @biggail 6 месяцев назад +3

    i'm in high school, so there is a lot of people figuring out who they are which is perfectly normal and okay, but i had a trans friend and he was trying to figure out what he should change his name to. i was helping him with ideas when all of a sudden he started going on and giving korean name suggestions, (i'm korean). at some point i asked this white person why he wanted to change his name to a korean name and he just dodges the question. i forgot about it for a while but almost a month later the same friend asked me about my grandma's name, (which is lee-jum rae, a veryyy old-school name that a lot of people in korea think is ugly. its. kinda like korea's karen.) i told him my korean grandma's name and guess what happens next. he changed his name to my grandmother's name. ik this isnt the same as what izzy did, but some white people are SO deperate for culture that they'll even steal grandma names just to seem more colored.

  • @alisha_lulu8797
    @alisha_lulu8797 4 месяца назад

    watching this as a mixed indian made me feel so seen ngl, i relate to this man on a different level

  • @masonjar1405
    @masonjar1405 11 месяцев назад

    ben u struck a nerve with this one so many ppl are upset over the weirdest things

  • @autistic_howler_monkey3878
    @autistic_howler_monkey3878 11 месяцев назад +11

    hey ben i love your podcast!
    here’s my drama- so im a lesbian and this girl at my school is bi and she knows I’m lesbian. We used to be friends but now she’s telling everyone that I’m dating her for no reason and I don’t know what to d. What’s your advice?

  • @romimichaeli
    @romimichaeli 11 месяцев назад +3

    As a white person that had lived with her family in India for three years, I remember my parents explaining to me about the whole fare skin thing, they had told me that people with darker skin are more likely to be the more poor or work more than indian people with lighter skin. Over my years living here I noticed I have adopted some of the stuff the people do, like head movements or words
    Btw love your videos so much, you make me laugh every time

  • @lomiles83
    @lomiles83 11 месяцев назад

    Shoutout to your perspective on your grandparents. So fuggin annoying when people can't respect the predicaments our grandparents went through when it comes to discrimination and survival.

  • @kayliegrant8995
    @kayliegrant8995 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Ben!!! I am from Trinidad and I LOVE watching ur videos 🇹🇹❤

  • @nikkidias2681
    @nikkidias2681 8 дней назад +3

    I'm an Indian roman catholic and even if I live in India people think I'm whitewashed. Other Indians have this stereotype about our community that we are different from Indian culture..... yes, our weddings take place in church and we wear a white dress but our weddings also last 5 days including mehndi rasam, sangit, vidai. But yes, we do look a little different- most people in our community are fair and some could be mistaken as white AND we have very white names.

  • @Chris-wi8br
    @Chris-wi8br 11 месяцев назад +4

    so I am half Vietnamese and half white. In middle school it was predominantly white kids. There were a lot of people that were obsessed with kpop and or Anime. Because of this I found out that people wanted to “date” me because I was half asian so they could live out their dreams of dating an asian person. sarcastic yayy

  • @lucyab
    @lucyab 11 месяцев назад

    i think that in this age of social media people want something that makes them feel unique. weather that be finding one native ancestor you aren’t even directly related to and saying they were a princess or getting a tan 5 shades to dark and perming your hair to look like ramen noodles. it such a weird phenomenon

  • @Nikolayevsk
    @Nikolayevsk 11 месяцев назад +7

    i like how ben is always looking down doing an advertisement cause he reads a script lol

  • @almost_an_almond1384
    @almost_an_almond1384 11 месяцев назад +6

    Gonna be a wild episode...

  • @lilnick3327
    @lilnick3327 11 месяцев назад +4

    I mean: as a white girl (from the Netherlands) I do like anime for example, or henna. But not because I want to be that race, it’s just because it’s fun 😂