Put some fresh lining on the clutch plate and had the pressure plate resurfaced , but then couldnt shift into gear afterwards...... The guy at the machine shop recommended adding the shim washers so the release bearing can travel a bit further to release the clutch and get gears...... I will try this before finally deciding to buy a new kit..... Thanks for reassuring that this might actually work lol
Wow, having gotten by with just a stock clutch PP and disk 'til now in my teenie little 40hp big bore 83mm type 1 engines, I've never given this process any thought. As yours (I believe) is a 300+ HP unit I can see that it becomes a lot more important to know how much holding power there is. I can imagine a day at the drag strip is no fun when you are trailered due to a slipping clutch! Thanks for this interesting video - Ted.
Yeah, I think a stock clutch would have a better 'grip'(?) if you did this, but in practice they have enough straight out of the box that it's not necessary. Clutch problems have plagued me and this thing since I got it back on the road so this is a last ditch attempt to solve them before I have to go down the expensive route of having a custom twin disk setup made. And yep, trailering the car 200 miles to the drag strip and then the clutch not holding is extremely frustrating!
The shims are M8 washers of a known thickness. There are 6 of them and you place them between the clutch cover and the flywheel where the clutch cover bolts go. It can be difficult so a dab of grease or even a light spray glue can be used to hold them in place until you get the bolts in.
They're just washers, but they're washers which are a specific thickness. They go in between the pressure plate and the flywheel. There are 6 of them and they're a bit fiddly to put in because they keep falling out so I used a tiny smear of grease to hold them in place until the bolts were tightened.
No, it was good while it lasted, but a failed gearbox seal contaminated it really badly so it ruined it. I've got a custom made 228mm 5 paddle disc and a matching Kennedy Stage 2 228m cover now. That's all working really well.
@@ddk56vw It's a cerametallic one. I did a video on it here: ruclips.net/video/vp2xB9R_uWc/видео.html After that video, the clip came off the release bearing and destroyed the starter motor so I had to pull it all out. That's when I fitted the Kennedy stage 2 cover as well.
Are you still using original clutch wire? Is that clutch heavy to use? I have a problem with empi stage 2 pressure plate, original wire line is not holding ( that tube in the chassis is bending) i did throw away original wires and assemble hydraulic clutch line, it is stil too hard to use. Yes i know its all about the a lever ratio that need to be fixed 😊
Yes, it's still the stock cable but I'm using a Type 2 bellhousing so I don't know if the lever is a bit longer or anything. It's heavier than a stock clutch for sure, but it's not so bad that it is hard to drive. I can drive this thing in traffic no problem at all.
Worthless video if you don't tell how or where to shim. EDIT: I apologize for my stupidity. I might have overlooked that part trying to skip ahead looking for that part.
I literally tell you exactly where they go at about 1:24 in the video! Edit as well: no worries, it's a blink and you might miss it moment, to be fair.
Put some fresh lining on the clutch plate and had the pressure plate resurfaced , but then couldnt shift into gear afterwards...... The guy at the machine shop recommended adding the shim washers so the release bearing can travel a bit further to release the clutch and get gears...... I will try this before finally deciding to buy a new kit..... Thanks for reassuring that this might actually work lol
Never realised you could do that, thanks for sharing.
I'd heard about it but never actually tried it before. I was surprised at the difference it makes though!
Wow, having gotten by with just a stock clutch PP and disk 'til now in my teenie little 40hp big bore 83mm type 1 engines, I've never given this process any thought. As yours (I believe) is a 300+ HP unit I can see that it becomes a lot more important to know how much holding power there is. I can imagine a day at the drag strip is no fun when you are trailered due to a slipping clutch! Thanks for this interesting video - Ted.
Yeah, I think a stock clutch would have a better 'grip'(?) if you did this, but in practice they have enough straight out of the box that it's not necessary.
Clutch problems have plagued me and this thing since I got it back on the road so this is a last ditch attempt to solve them before I have to go down the expensive route of having a custom twin disk setup made.
And yep, trailering the car 200 miles to the drag strip and then the clutch not holding is extremely frustrating!
You should show the shems and where you put them.
The shims are M8 washers of a known thickness. There are 6 of them and you place them between the clutch cover and the flywheel where the clutch cover bolts go.
It can be difficult so a dab of grease or even a light spray glue can be used to hold them in place until you get the bolts in.
What is this shim looks like and where would it be installed?
They're just washers, but they're washers which are a specific thickness.
They go in between the pressure plate and the flywheel. There are 6 of them and they're a bit fiddly to put in because they keep falling out so I used a tiny smear of grease to hold them in place until the bolts were tightened.
@@2BugsandaBack great thank you
Are you still running this clutch disk? How did you like it?
No, it was good while it lasted, but a failed gearbox seal contaminated it really badly so it ruined it.
I've got a custom made 228mm 5 paddle disc and a matching Kennedy Stage 2 228m cover now. That's all working really well.
@@2BugsandaBack what time of material is the 5 puc made out of. I'm wanting to try a new setup myself. Thanks
@@ddk56vw It's a cerametallic one. I did a video on it here: ruclips.net/video/vp2xB9R_uWc/видео.html After that video, the clip came off the release bearing and destroyed the starter motor so I had to pull it all out. That's when I fitted the Kennedy stage 2 cover as well.
Are you still using original clutch wire? Is that clutch heavy to use? I have a problem with empi stage 2 pressure plate, original wire line is not holding ( that tube in the chassis is bending) i did throw away original wires and assemble hydraulic clutch line, it is stil too hard to use. Yes i know its all about the a lever ratio that need to be fixed 😊
Yes, it's still the stock cable but I'm using a Type 2 bellhousing so I don't know if the lever is a bit longer or anything.
It's heavier than a stock clutch for sure, but it's not so bad that it is hard to drive. I can drive this thing in traffic no problem at all.
Worthless video if you don't tell how or where to shim.
EDIT: I apologize for my stupidity. I might have overlooked that part trying to skip ahead looking for that part.
I literally tell you exactly where they go at about 1:24 in the video!
Edit as well: no worries, it's a blink and you might miss it moment, to be fair.
Sorry. I'm going to check it out again.