8 years after m3 dies by itself by eating bearings making the engine scrap, the c63 is now a rattle box, showing worst build quality than a 500.000 mile dacia and with never ending engine problems. Lexus just munching as if it was brand new, solid, unproblematic and still refined.
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Chris harris didnt like the ISF then goes on when reviewing the GSF as the ISF being a decent crack at the M3. some reviewers just need to open both eyes when reviewing cars.
Farah I think mentioned that cars like the ISF and contemporary Astons are unfavorable when compared to their contemporaries but in the case of the ISF it blew by them reliability wise and the Astons, longterm, out-charm them where you just don't care how it compares to, say, a 911 of the same vintage. You're definitely right though as time definitely shifts perspective because it allows you to think of the car in a vacuum and not in the same room as the others, which, possibly haven't aged as well.
@@Petrospect As cars get older we relate far more to how they make us feel emotionally and the driving experience itself. We care less and less about 0-60 times, which changes gear quicker, which is 0.2 seconds quicker around a track. The specs don't really mean anything when a G80 M3 would absolutely destroy all 3 in those metrics.
All these reviews are outdated because of the suspension changes(2011+) and LSD addition(2010) Lexus has made to the ISF. That however is Lexus' fault. They released this car for the first 2 years without an LSD, which makes no sense when you're trying to make a car for drivers.
BMW is Pure Track Car as a hobby and a second Car, pure and simpel.. Merc and Lexus for everyday Use for cruising and driving fast .. So for 95 % of the People BMW is no Option . And dont tell me you are driving on Track everyday , >> bullshit .
M3 is not s track car. Typical "car guy" car comment. I've owned 2 of them and they are one of my absolute favorite cars. But they are definitely not track cars. They are very capable performance luxury cars. And I love them for it. Track cars (GT4, Ariel Atom, Ultima GTR, Exige, etc.. are not practical or remotely comfortable daily drivers. I can take my family on a nice Sunday drive in the M3.. not in a track car.
What is it with UK journos binning Lexus They said its got the worst dash. Are they blind? The m3 looks like a Vauxhall dash with decent red leathers. That c63 dash is laughable. Lexus wins!! Better engine. More rare. Most reliable.easiest to tune. M3 comes second as that v8 with Manual is a peach. But it'll be in the garage all the time. C63. I've got nothing good to say. The engine seems decent but that's it. Lexus all day
Silly comment. The C63 has tonnes going for it. The engine is amazing and its a great chassis. Its sound is otherworldly. Id probably still get the Lexus as its less likely to go wrong and does everything well. The ride is very firm on them though.
Yep the Lexus is the best car for straight lines because even the Japanese admit its handeling is horrid compared to even the m3. When the Japanese programs tested it their every single one of their pro racing drivers agreed the m3 was the superior car.
Epic, love all three of these guys. What people do not understand, is that BMW builds drivers. They are challenging and engaging to drive. The other two are great cars, but BMW has that racing engaged feel, in a comfortable daily car. They have been doing it the longest, and just have it down. Interesting to see how the new turbo will stack up
@@charliecharlie2484Lexus actually has the best build quality and craftsmanship in the car industry, at 100k miles it won’t sound like a rattle box like the m3 and c63
M3 best to drive and ties the Merc for good looks. Merc sounds the best Lexus most reliable. I'd be more than happy with either of them, but if i had to choose, M3 :).
Thanks for posting 'em mate. I'm proud of the fact that I write for what used to be Driver's Republic (SkiddMark), but I absolutely love watching the original videos.
Jethro Bovingdon, Dickie Meaden and Chris Harris. All three now doing automotive journalism with three big publications(Top Gear US, Evo and Top Gear UK respectively)
Having now owned an m3 for over 2 months, not sure i agree. Felt more sp3cial for rhe first few drives because of the motorsport credentials but definitely missing the sense of drama the AMG would have . The looks are good, not great. Interior is very durable , always has one issue after another hahaha but overall its a fantastic car but i prefer more torque. The AMG is more fun but the M car then claws things back when you rev it to 8k without breaking the speed limit. The sound is nowhere near as special as the c63 even when revved up. The thing the M car wins hands down on is the transmission , and thats the only thing that sets it apart . Not when approaching a junction, it hesitates way too much but once yiure on the go, that DCT is spectacular for its age
Actually, the c63 is much slower on a track than the M3 because it suffers from poor handling. Watch the Top Gear review and 5th gear review- they come to the same conclusion. While you're watching those video also consider that the M3 sedan only weighs around 20 more lbs than the coupe.
How could chris forget to mention the c55 amg and c32 amg. Both of those vehicles came before the c63 amg . Im not a Mercedes fan boy I just hate when auto journalists give false info.
I had a mk7 Audi A4 2.0 TFSI special edition Quattro full Audi service history was a super money pit including oil chain pump failure in total I lost 20k just for that alone. I now own a reliable swift Lexus GS 450h f sport and love knowing it’s not an Audi or German.
Its wierd that Harris laughs at people commenting about steering feel in this video, when he doesnt feel too strongly about electric steering despite feeling it's accurate.
I''ll have the merc in silver please. Engine note (sounds like a hound from hell!), power (like being strapped to a rocket!) those seats (ooo, comfy and supportive.)
DAZ605 this is so not true, the s65 engine has been reliable, only ones that blew up are due to supercharging and irregular oil changes, get your facts straight, all these cars like c63 and m3 has high performance engines and you expect people to blow them up due to tuning, but if you care for them all these engines will do well and reward you
xavier xe Yeah, I own a 2013 ZCP M3, the S65 is international engine of the year 2008-2012 five years in a row but the guys above claim that it blows and have no evidence to back it up except from chatter on bimmer posts from guys who supercharged their S65 at a lousy mechanics shop. Any engine blows when one tampers with the already perfectly engineered S65 such as supercharging by a second rate mechanic. Why would one do it to an already fine product blows my mind, These guys above were having a private discussion among themselves and believing one another is even funnier, without a shred of evidence to back up their arguments one guy says yeah to the other...idiots
Nice, praising the non dct m3 as you struggle to pull a gear. Hand on the wheel would not be faster and safer? Nevermind, when f1 tech comes to the street it usually is a good thing. However, I still love my e46 m with SMG 2. You know you just pulled a gear while your hands are on the steering wheel. If you are in doubt ask any gt pro. Yes, I have a dct as well in my 135. It is fast but kind of numb .
M3 is great handling car much faster on track tha both other,but engine is disappointed, C63 only has great engine,that torque and sound is awesome Is has good sund and gearbox!
Love all three of these cars. I think in this generation I like the looks and interior of the Lexus most and the engine of the C63 most but I'll bet the BMW is the most fun especially with that manual. Facelift C63 though just takes it up to another level with looks and interior for me.
8 years after m3 dies by itself by eating bearings making the engine scrap, the c63 is now a rattle box, showing worst build quality than a 500.000 mile dacia and with never ending engine problems. Lexus just munching as if it was brand new, solid, unproblematic and still refined.
As an m3 owner this is painful haha
Bullshit misconception.
C63 or M3 any day, will live with the problems
Best comment.
Id go for a lexus
I know they're old, but some people might like them still. Drivers Republic videos are found nowhere else.
ahpadt thanks for them!! Post more ifyou can
I like them a lot. And the other one, the GT3 review too.
I have an E90 M3 and this video made my day.
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@Christopher Marcelo Instablaster :)
240p and still a wicked review.
Chris harris didnt like the ISF then goes on when reviewing the GSF as the ISF being a decent crack at the M3. some reviewers just need to open both eyes when reviewing cars.
Farah I think mentioned that cars like the ISF and contemporary Astons are unfavorable when compared to their contemporaries but in the case of the ISF it blew by them reliability wise and the Astons, longterm, out-charm them where you just don't care how it compares to, say, a 911 of the same vintage. You're definitely right though as time definitely shifts perspective because it allows you to think of the car in a vacuum and not in the same room as the others, which, possibly haven't aged as well.
@@Petrospect As cars get older we relate far more to how they make us feel emotionally and the driving experience itself. We care less and less about 0-60 times, which changes gear quicker, which is 0.2 seconds quicker around a track. The specs don't really mean anything when a G80 M3 would absolutely destroy all 3 in those metrics.
is it recorded with a potato?
I am afraid they used a toaster for this one mate.
no but your comment was typed with a troll brand keyboard ... was it corsair?
Jesus B You're both wrong. It was an anus.
2003 Nokia cell phone I think. I mean literally!
2003 Nokia cell phone I think. I mean literally!
Lexus is f for me I want to get home
Am I watching this on VHS?
All these reviews are outdated because of the suspension changes(2011+) and LSD addition(2010) Lexus has made to the ISF. That however is Lexus' fault. They released this car for the first 2 years without an LSD, which makes no sense when you're trying to make a car for drivers.
Brainwashed all 3 of you.
Who drives around @ 8500Rpm all day ?
The IS F is the best all rounder all day long….. set of rod bearings anyone?
If only they knew how terrible this m3 will become in future,with those horrible reability engines...
Three great cars, three great drivers, awesome video. I wish this video was available in HD. I would take the C63 AMG please.
BMW is Pure Track Car as a hobby and a second Car, pure and simpel.. Merc and Lexus for everyday Use for cruising and driving fast .. So for 95 % of the People BMW is no Option . And dont tell me you are driving on Track everyday , >> bullshit .
M3 is not s track car. Typical "car guy" car comment. I've owned 2 of them and they are one of my absolute favorite cars. But they are definitely not track cars. They are very capable performance luxury cars. And I love them for it.
Track cars (GT4, Ariel Atom, Ultima GTR, Exige, etc.. are not practical or remotely comfortable daily drivers. I can take my family on a nice Sunday drive in the M3.. not in a track car.
What is it with UK journos binning Lexus
They said its got the worst dash. Are they blind? The m3 looks like a Vauxhall dash with decent red leathers. That c63 dash is laughable.
Lexus wins!!
Better engine. More rare. Most reliable.easiest to tune.
M3 comes second as that v8 with Manual is a peach. But it'll be in the garage all the time.
C63. I've got nothing good to say. The engine seems decent but that's it.
Lexus all day
Do you own a Lexus or something ?
It’s disgusting. M3 any day over that tub
Silly comment. The C63 has tonnes going for it. The engine is amazing and its a great chassis. Its sound is otherworldly. Id probably still get the Lexus as its less likely to go wrong and does everything well. The ride is very firm on them though.
Yep the Lexus is the best car for straight lines because even the Japanese admit its handeling is horrid compared to even the m3. When the Japanese programs tested it their every single one of their pro racing drivers agreed the m3 was the superior car.
Epic, love all three of these guys. What people do not understand, is that BMW builds drivers. They are challenging and engaging to drive. The other two are great cars, but BMW has that racing engaged feel, in a comfortable daily car. They have been doing it the longest, and just have it down. Interesting to see how the new turbo will stack up
the 3 best car journalist!!!
Cheap plastic in isf? Wtf is this guy on about
Lexus is made of cheap materials and it's true
@@MD-uu5nt you are real tojota fan!
@@charliecharlie2484Lexus actually has the best build quality and craftsmanship in the car industry, at 100k miles it won’t sound like a rattle box like the m3 and c63
The M3 is better :)
M3 best to drive and ties the Merc for good looks.
Merc sounds the best
Lexus most reliable.
I'd be more than happy with either of them, but if i had to choose, M3 :).
+TheJoeMB M3 wins
The Lexus will outlive the German Cars anyday!
All drivers of japanese cars only say that their cars are durable, and it's only one advantage of those cars
Jehtro Bovingdon! Wow! I didn't know he was on driver's republic! Awesome!
Thanks for posting 'em mate. I'm proud of the fact that I write for what used to be Driver's Republic (SkiddMark), but I absolutely love watching the original videos.
Jethro Bovingdon, Dickie Meaden and Chris Harris. All three now doing automotive journalism with three big publications(Top Gear US, Evo and Top Gear UK respectively)
Having now owned an m3 for over 2 months, not sure i agree. Felt more sp3cial for rhe first few drives because of the motorsport credentials but definitely missing the sense of drama the AMG would have . The looks are good, not great. Interior is very durable , always has one issue after another hahaha but overall its a fantastic car but i prefer more torque. The AMG is more fun but the M car then claws things back when you rev it to 8k without breaking the speed limit. The sound is nowhere near as special as the c63 even when revved up. The thing the M car wins hands down on is the transmission , and thats the only thing that sets it apart . Not when approaching a junction, it hesitates way too much but once yiure on the go, that DCT is spectacular for its age
my dream car is right there in the video. Sparkling Graphite E90 M3. I have a sparkling graphite e90 330xi at the moment.
Actually, the c63 is much slower on a track than the M3 because it suffers from poor handling. Watch the Top Gear review and 5th gear review- they come to the same conclusion. While you're watching those video also consider that the M3 sedan only weighs around 20 more lbs than the coupe.
How could chris forget to mention the c55 amg and c32 amg. Both of those vehicles came before the c63 amg . Im not a Mercedes fan boy I just hate when auto journalists give false info.
BMW4VER, ///M rules...best road car ever made
God i love this, you guys should have made it. this is better then 5th gear and top gear
240p we meet again... never heard of this show.
Casey Weaver 144p mate
I dont care what ghey say, c63 beats m3 (stock to stock) check everywhere. I mean come on he just said it "i own a bmw" ;)
Only the m3 comes manual, so the other two are shit by default
BMW is just best sport car, thats all :)
Lexus, it will never break.
A Chris Harris with hair!
I had a mk7 Audi A4 2.0 TFSI special edition Quattro full Audi service history was a super money pit including oil chain pump failure in total I lost 20k just for that alone. I now own a reliable swift Lexus GS 450h f sport and love knowing it’s not an Audi or German.
why such a crap resolution
It's a 12-13 yearold video.
Its wierd that Harris laughs at people commenting about steering feel in this video, when he doesnt feel too strongly about electric steering despite feeling it's accurate.
it's funny how Chris says that the 4-door version is better than the coupe....and he bought a coupe M3 lol
I''ll have the merc in silver please. Engine note (sounds like a hound from hell!), power (like being strapped to a rocket!) those seats (ooo, comfy and supportive.)
And still... I would go direct to C63 just because its "madness".
Another reason to go for the C63 is because E90/E92 engines seem to blow up.It's a true fact now.
EvoPower2010 Really?! They are claimed to be a world leader in engine development... but obviously not so ;)
benzfen Of course not...
DAZ605 this is so not true, the s65 engine has been reliable, only ones that blew up are due to supercharging and irregular oil changes, get your facts straight, all these cars like c63 and m3 has high performance engines and you expect people to blow them up due to tuning, but if you care for them all these engines will do well and reward you
xavier xe Yeah, I own a 2013 ZCP M3, the S65 is international engine of the year 2008-2012 five years in a row but the guys above claim that it blows and have no evidence to back it up except from chatter on bimmer posts from guys who supercharged their S65 at a lousy mechanics shop. Any engine blows when one tampers with the already perfectly engineered S65 such as supercharging by a second rate mechanic. Why would one do it to an already fine product blows my mind, These guys above were having a private discussion among themselves and believing one another is even funnier, without a shred of evidence to back up their arguments one guy says yeah to the other...idiots
Such hi tech cars but shot in such poor vid quality, would be great if the vid was in HD.
Too bad they were too early to the market with it. Beats anything currently offered.
Drifting in the wet is not how you test a car's ability. But hey when you have to film you must.
In outright numbers (power, torque etc.).. certainly not laptimes or to drive..
ALIEN SPOTTED 0:22!!!!!!!
Wild to think two of these guys are now on top gear shows
A real talk review from respectable individuals. Wish they did every review.
And Chris buys a coupe anyway..
wrong info - m3 is not torqy at all.
Wow look at ten journalists on this! This video is a hidden gem
Don't listen to these moaning chaps, keep the vids coming!
I can't believe I've never seen this.
Thanks for the upload. All these episodes are new to me.
There was c43 amg raw and potent car
///M wins again.
Filmed with a toaster, brilliant.
You do realise this was filmed 10 years ago, right?
hello pixels
Now he is on DriveTribe! :o
ur sick brah
I agree 100%
Great vid.
C63 all the way..
0:39
M power BABY
Proud to own an E90 M3. Best car ever.
All 3 are very good cars & I'd be happy to have any of them but for me the C63 amg blows the other 2 away with its engine note I'd take that
Nice, praising the non dct m3 as you struggle to pull a gear. Hand on the wheel would not be faster and safer? Nevermind, when f1 tech comes to the street it usually is a good thing. However, I still love my e46 m with SMG 2. You know you just pulled a gear while your hands are on the steering wheel. If you are in doubt ask any gt pro. Yes, I have a dct as well in my 135. It is fast but kind of numb .
Ya cant drive sunny, n ur making excuses for it 🤣
Rubbish you don't know what you talking about M3 is the best numbers don't lia final
And let me guess your a better driver and experienced then the legendary chris Harris? 🤣
///M = ///MINT
M3 is great handling car much faster on track tha both other,but engine is disappointed,
C63 only has great engine,that torque and sound is awesome
Is has good sund and gearbox!
Love all three of these cars. I think in this generation I like the looks and interior of the Lexus most and the engine of the C63 most but I'll bet the BMW is the most fun especially with that manual. Facelift C63 though just takes it up to another level with looks and interior for me.