Moved to Springfield after 24 years in Eugene, so happy I did. There are great locations in both cities, but the concentration of young families in the Hayden Bridge area of Springfield feels vibrant in a way that Eugene hasn’t felt in a long time.
Eugene with it’s large population no longer has a hospital. Springfield has two, one of them is huge. I do worry about the folks in west Eugene & the time it would take to get emergency medical attention at a hospital. Eugene had a hospital that closed in the last year.
I have been hearing more and more that we have a pretty significant lack of medical providers for our size. I definitely agree we need a hospital towards West Eugene.
I grew up in Eugene where we scoffed at Springfield for being a trash city. Then I moved around the country for a while and came back to Eugene, where I currently live. I never thought I would say this, but Springfield has improved to the point where I think it's a better place to live, raise a family, etc than Eugene. Most areas have easy enough access to Downtown/University area amenities anyways and Springfield is closer to Mckenzie river activities or river front housing if that's your jam. The local government and school district seem to function a little to a lot better (I will spare you the essay on the city of Eugene's impact on local businesses and the financial waste at 4J). Not to mention the better value per sq ft of house in springfield, combined with a quickly improving restaurant scene.
Eugene currently doesn't have any hospitals. You showed a picture of PeaceHealth at University District which has been closed for almost a year. Only the psychiatric unit is left at that location.
I feel like Eugene is being gentrified by huge rental companies who are buying out the small family landlords. Many places require you to make 3x the rent (so for a $1500 apartment, $4500) which is not affordable for most people. A lot of rich younger people from Cali or other places move here who have parents who can cosign or pay rent for them. But the people who are first generation college students or low income can't keep up. It's very sad. Also crazy that the housing/rental prices are comparable in Eugene to Portland, but we have nowhere near as much to do. One cool thing is that there's a large "out and proud" queer + trans population here. I feel like queer people from the smaller conservative Oregon towns move to Eugene or Portland to find solace in the city. I moved to Eugene from the midwest, and am happy to have done so, but I am also financially privileged. Thank you for this video! It was interesting to see the differences between Eugene and Springfield.
I agree we have a big affordable housing problem. I try to be optimistic and I know there are a lot of people in our community that are seeking solutions, but I do think there would have to be a drastic shift for any substantial change to happen. We do have a strong LGBTQIA+ community, and a lot of ally support! Thank you for watching!
I was born in Eugene and lived most of my life there, but am now living in exile in this other place you're discussing. But in fact, I've always regarded both cities to be more or less the same place. Eventually I think that they will combine in all ways and the name of this new city will be Eugene. Not "Springene" or some other silly concocted name. Our fire departments have already combined in both name and organization. After our police departments and school districts have joined together, it is inevitable that governmentally we'll combine also. The economy and efficiency of size will be a benefit and having to support only one organization for each major municipal function will save money. It will be the placing of an official stamp on a joining together that has already mostly occurred. Eugene is the bluest city in the bluest state and the younger people in both these cities will expand on that as time passes. As the older generation passes on to their just rewards, any differences in politics will fade into obscurity.
If you don't already live here, please don't move here. Eugene has the second highest population in oregon, the first being Portland. We have the highest population, beating Portland, for the size of the city. In 2019, Eugene had a higher homeless rate per capita than New York and Los Angeles. It's gotten much worse. The renting prices are higher than represented here, but good luck getting an apartment or rental. The competition for housing is so bad that when you are trying to get an apartment, you have to just jump on it site unseen, or else they will just choose from the hundreds of other applicants. Do you like your car windows busted in? I hope, because it's definitely going to happen, at minimum once. There is also a high amount of air pollution put off by the factories. I can't remember the statistic off the top of my head, but the levels in west Eugene were tested and they were extremely high. Many people live directly in that area. There is at least one school directly in the area also.... So, if you don't already live here, we are over capacity as it is. This is not a good place to live. There also aren't many things to do here.
I haven't ever had a window smashed in here. I also keep super busy, with community groups, volunteering, city league sports, hiking, you name it. I'm sorry your experience has been so poor.
Thanks for including photo credits but I would like to know your sources for your presented facts-similar to what would be included with your research for a thesis for example.
If there are specific facts or stats, I just googled them. Unfortunately these videos are already quite time intensive, and they are not my thesis project, so I will try to site things as I say them if I can, but I don't make any promises.
Just a few questions, 1. How are the homeless treated? I know that in some cities they are treated unkindly and unfairly. 2. Are there good mental health and autism resources and support groups? Where I live there are no mental health support groups and autism resources are quite limited. 3. How is the air quality due to seasonal fires? It's actually quite bad here. 4. How is the bus situation? They have a lot of busses here but the system as a whole kind of sucks. 5. What is the deal with Dari Mart? Why do they have like 40 stores in only in Eugene and the surrounding areas. I just find it odd that there is a chain with that many stores that are not found anywhere else. Finally, If I knew a person named Eugene in Caldwell, ID the cycle of life would be complete.
Here is some history about Eugene and Springfield. 1. Chex Quest a free PC game included in Chex cereal in the 90's and created using the Doom engine was developed by a company in Eugene. 2. Springfield from the Simpsons was modelled after its namesake city in Oregon. 3. Meredith Brooks started her music career in Eugene.
I guess I would say the homeless are not treated as poorly as they are in most places, but they are not treated well. They are constantly harassed and forced to move, but there are also a lot of resources and organizations trying to help. There is a lot of community support and resources around neurodivergence, with that said, for individuals with higher support needs (doctors, OT, PT, and specialists) there are more resources in and around Portland. I personally say expect a week every summer of pretty nasty air quality, with that said, this summer was super mild and there was only maybe 2-3 days where it was noticeable. Portions of our bus system operate well. The main parts of Eugene and Springfield can be accessed via the EMX. For areas not on the EMX route the bus system does take quite a long time for not very long distances. Dari Mart is a locally owned company that has been around as long as I can remember and all I can do is guess, but they made an impact on the community from very early on, so here they can compete with the larger competitors like AM/PM, 7-11, etc. I don't think they would be able to compete in markets where they haven't created the relationships they have here. Best guess anyway.
I worked for the city of springfield doing landscaping one summer. Hypodermic needles were a major hazard for workers and we would find them everyday. Springfield has a major drug problem.
This depends on your level of comfort and which area of Springfield you live in. Personally, I feel very safe in Springfield. I know some people of color who feel very differently.
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon Yes: 8 at Meadow Park in Springfield, 8 at Westmoreland in Eugene, hopefully 20 at LCC in 2025. Also courts at Sheldon and Churchill, Kidsports, Willamalane.
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Moved to Springfield after 24 years in Eugene, so happy I did. There are great locations in both cities, but the concentration of young families in the Hayden Bridge area of Springfield feels vibrant in a way that Eugene hasn’t felt in a long time.
Excellent job on this.
Very detailed and thorough comparisons
Eugene with it’s large population no longer has a hospital. Springfield has two, one of them is huge.
I do worry about the folks in west Eugene & the time it would take to get emergency medical attention at a hospital. Eugene had a hospital that closed in the last year.
I have been hearing more and more that we have a pretty significant lack of medical providers for our size. I definitely agree we need a hospital towards West Eugene.
I grew up in Eugene where we scoffed at Springfield for being a trash city. Then I moved around the country for a while and came back to Eugene, where I currently live. I never thought I would say this, but Springfield has improved to the point where I think it's a better place to live, raise a family, etc than Eugene. Most areas have easy enough access to Downtown/University area amenities anyways and Springfield is closer to Mckenzie river activities or river front housing if that's your jam. The local government and school district seem to function a little to a lot better (I will spare you the essay on the city of Eugene's impact on local businesses and the financial waste at 4J). Not to mention the better value per sq ft of house in springfield, combined with a quickly improving restaurant scene.
Team Springfield!!!
That's 1 vote for Springfield!
@@MovingtoEugeneOregonthat's one more than Eugene has.
Eugene currently doesn't have any hospitals. You showed a picture of PeaceHealth at University District which has been closed for almost a year. Only the psychiatric unit is left at that location.
Team Springfield! Specifically the washburne!!!!!
I do really love the Washburne, and also really love Jefferson-Westside, which have similar feels.
Springfield has 2 pools. Willamalane on G Street. And the wave pool out in Thurston.
You are right! How could I forget about Splash!
Springfield also has a minor league baseball team, the Drifters.
That's right! I forgot about the Drifters.
As someone who has lived in both, Springfield has MUCH cheaper utility bills. Eugene is 3x more than my previous place in Springfield.
SUB definitely reigns supreme.
Springfield is great
Agreed!
I live in Springfield on mountian gate my property taxes are almost 8k a year.
I feel like Eugene is being gentrified by huge rental companies who are buying out the small family landlords. Many places require you to make 3x the rent (so for a $1500 apartment, $4500) which is not affordable for most people. A lot of rich younger people from Cali or other places move here who have parents who can cosign or pay rent for them. But the people who are first generation college students or low income can't keep up. It's very sad. Also crazy that the housing/rental prices are comparable in Eugene to Portland, but we have nowhere near as much to do.
One cool thing is that there's a large "out and proud" queer + trans population here. I feel like queer people from the smaller conservative Oregon towns move to Eugene or Portland to find solace in the city.
I moved to Eugene from the midwest, and am happy to have done so, but I am also financially privileged. Thank you for this video! It was interesting to see the differences between Eugene and Springfield.
I agree we have a big affordable housing problem. I try to be optimistic and I know there are a lot of people in our community that are seeking solutions, but I do think there would have to be a drastic shift for any substantial change to happen.
We do have a strong LGBTQIA+ community, and a lot of ally support! Thank you for watching!
I was born in Eugene and lived most of my life there, but am now living in exile in this other place you're discussing. But in fact, I've always regarded both cities to be more or less the same place. Eventually I think that they will combine in all ways and the name of this new city will be Eugene. Not "Springene" or some other silly concocted name. Our fire departments have already combined in both name and organization. After our police departments and school districts have joined together, it is inevitable that governmentally we'll combine also. The economy and efficiency of size will be a benefit and having to support only one organization for each major municipal function will save money. It will be the placing of an official stamp on a joining together that has already mostly occurred. Eugene is the bluest city in the bluest state and the younger people in both these cities will expand on that as time passes. As the older generation passes on to their just rewards, any differences in politics will fade into obscurity.
Thank you for your opinion! I agree they often feel like one city and your take on the potential future is very interesting.
If you don't already live here, please don't move here. Eugene has the second highest population in oregon, the first being Portland. We have the highest population, beating Portland, for the size of the city. In 2019, Eugene had a higher homeless rate per capita than New York and Los Angeles. It's gotten much worse. The renting prices are higher than represented here, but good luck getting an apartment or rental. The competition for housing is so bad that when you are trying to get an apartment, you have to just jump on it site unseen, or else they will just choose from the hundreds of other applicants. Do you like your car windows busted in? I hope, because it's definitely going to happen, at minimum once. There is also a high amount of air pollution put off by the factories. I can't remember the statistic off the top of my head, but the levels in west Eugene were tested and they were extremely high. Many people live directly in that area. There is at least one school directly in the area also.... So, if you don't already live here, we are over capacity as it is. This is not a good place to live. There also aren't many things to do here.
I haven't ever had a window smashed in here. I also keep super busy, with community groups, volunteering, city league sports, hiking, you name it. I'm sorry your experience has been so poor.
I grew up in Springfield (Yolanda area, Briggs Jr. High). We referred to it as "Springtucky".
I have heard that a time or two.
Just a note Willamalane has TWO swim centers. Splash, as you noted, plus a Swim center at the park On Mohawk and G Street.
I actually didn't know this! Thank you for sharing. Is it in that sort of park area on the west side of Mohawk?
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon yes. Exactly. It is a great swim center.
Great video! It would be good to include taxes as well utilities in both cities
Great point! I will have to do an updated one!
Springfield is about 2/3 or less the cost of utilities than Eugene
I’m moving to eugene in a few weeks from the east coast, thanks for making this video!
Welcome! Thank you for watching!
Thanks for including photo credits but I would like to know your sources for your presented facts-similar to what would be included with your research for a thesis for example.
If there are specific facts or stats, I just googled them. Unfortunately these videos are already quite time intensive, and they are not my thesis project, so I will try to site things as I say them if I can, but I don't make any promises.
Your showing two pictures of Eugene for your cover photo!
Are you from around here?
Good catch! ;) If you sleuthed that out, I bet if you watch other videos you can determine if I am from around here or not.
Just a few questions,
1. How are the homeless treated? I know that in some cities they are treated unkindly and unfairly.
2. Are there good mental health and autism resources and support groups? Where I live there are no mental health support groups and autism resources are quite limited.
3. How is the air quality due to seasonal fires? It's actually quite bad here.
4. How is the bus situation? They have a lot of busses here but the system as a whole kind of sucks.
5. What is the deal with Dari Mart? Why do they have like 40 stores in only in Eugene and the surrounding areas. I just find it odd that there is a chain with that many stores that are not found anywhere else.
Finally, If I knew a person named Eugene in Caldwell, ID the cycle of life would be complete.
Here is some history about Eugene and Springfield.
1. Chex Quest a free PC game included in Chex cereal in the 90's and created using the Doom engine was developed by a company in Eugene.
2. Springfield from the Simpsons was modelled after its namesake city in Oregon.
3. Meredith Brooks started her music career in Eugene.
The homeless are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want basically it's a real problem
I guess I would say the homeless are not treated as poorly as they are in most places, but they are not treated well. They are constantly harassed and forced to move, but there are also a lot of resources and organizations trying to help.
There is a lot of community support and resources around neurodivergence, with that said, for individuals with higher support needs (doctors, OT, PT, and specialists) there are more resources in and around Portland.
I personally say expect a week every summer of pretty nasty air quality, with that said, this summer was super mild and there was only maybe 2-3 days where it was noticeable.
Portions of our bus system operate well. The main parts of Eugene and Springfield can be accessed via the EMX. For areas not on the EMX route the bus system does take quite a long time for not very long distances.
Dari Mart is a locally owned company that has been around as long as I can remember and all I can do is guess, but they made an impact on the community from very early on, so here they can compete with the larger competitors like AM/PM, 7-11, etc. I don't think they would be able to compete in markets where they haven't created the relationships they have here. Best guess anyway.
Were thinking of renting a home on forsythia and s 41st st. Is that neighborhood nice? I know its next to the railroad.
As long as you are okay with the train sounds, it is a pretty quiet, quaint residential neighborhood.
Q: What does Springfield have, but Eugene doesn't?
A: A major Oregon city within five miles.
True.
Springfield utility board is way better than eugene water and electric board.
I would agree with this.
I’ve lived in both, been ripped off in both. I’ll stick with Eugene.
There are pros and cons with both, certainly!
Springfield has less homeless so there’s less violence
That may be true.
Eugene likes to cater to the thieving-addicts. (AKA homeless)
I worked for the city of springfield doing landscaping one summer. Hypodermic needles were a major hazard for workers and we would find them everyday. Springfield has a major drug problem.
@@josephr9930 I live off 99. It's way worse over here.
Springfield is doing what Eugene SHOULD!
What are they doing?
Is springfield safe to live???????
This depends on your level of comfort and which area of Springfield you live in. Personally, I feel very safe in Springfield. I know some people of color who feel very differently.
All people are welcome here and you'll have less chance of getting in an altercation in Springfield than Eugene by far
Ummm…I lived in both I would said neither. Run as fast as you can!!
Where do you live now? Is it better?
Pickleball!
PICKLEBALL! How could I not mention it! Lot's of Pickleball everywhere.
@@MovingtoEugeneOregon Yes: 8 at Meadow Park in Springfield, 8 at Westmoreland in Eugene, hopefully 20 at LCC in 2025. Also courts at Sheldon and Churchill, Kidsports, Willamalane.
Springfield has Deliverance vibes.
Thanks for providing your opinion!
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Springfield is for people who want to raise a family. Eugene is the EXACT opposite.
Also raising a 2 year old in Eugene and have been so happy with it, but not everyone would be.
Shirts hella wrinkly
I want to be a person that irons, but its just not me.
There are less thieving-addicts(AKA homeless) in Springfield.
Eugene likes to cater to them?
I would agree there are less homeless in Springfield.
This would be a great opportunity for social workers and a shelter project
Eugene trends Democratic and Springfield trends Republican
Thanks for sharing!
It depends on where you live in both cities. They both have good and bad places,but Eugene's bad places are much worse than Springfield has.
I think this is a totally fair take!