Former Officer Reacts To Video Of Police ‘Refusing’ To Attend Alleged Nearby Assault

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июл 2023
  • Sussex Police are under fire after footage emerged of a Police Community Support Officer appearing to refuse to attend an alleged assault at a Co-op store just 200 yards away, telling a member of the public who approached him for help: “But then I'll have to deal with it”.
    TalkTV’s Ian Collins is joined by former police officer Norman Brennan who says the video is “appalling”.
    Norman says: “This makes it look like police officers just don’t care!”
    #talkradio #talktv

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  • @dogzero1
    @dogzero1 Год назад +544

    Amazing. They send upto 6 police officers to a man filming a police station but won't attent actual crimes.

    • @BrianWaugh-fy4wh
      @BrianWaugh-fy4wh Год назад

      The plonkhead cops sent 5 officers to arrest the woman who was praying silently on the opposite side of the street from an abortion clinic.....they are utterly unfit for purpose.

    • @1977ajax
      @1977ajax Год назад +49

      If you want the police to turn out to help you, tell them you are black or that you are trans and someone just said they don't like you.

    • @CouncilOfWolves
      @CouncilOfWolves Год назад +31

      They send in a swat team when somebody feels misgendered.

    • @shauny2285
      @shauny2285 Год назад +7

      Welcome to western style policing in the 2020s. Cheers!

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 Год назад +16

      yeah if anyones seen auditing videos not a good look for british cops

  • @SimonWallwork
    @SimonWallwork Год назад +424

    Remember, the police are not on the side of the law-abiding. The police are on the side of the police!

    • @mitch_the_-itch
      @mitch_the_-itch Год назад +6

      Public Sector Unions took the rest of us out of the equation.

    • @jimgiordano2576
      @jimgiordano2576 Год назад +2

      just us

    • @BIASED_YOUTUBE
      @BIASED_YOUTUBE Год назад +2

      crown servants, not police.

    • @bigturboxr3i
      @bigturboxr3i Год назад +7

      Robocop is already here watching and learning. He has eyes built into every lamp post, junction, crossing, building, every recent vehicle from all sides, stations, your own personal device and from the sky.

    • @ChronicCraftsman
      @ChronicCraftsman Год назад +11

      If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.

  • @stevedowling1960
    @stevedowling1960 Год назад +412

    A police Community Support Officer that doesn't Support the Community, is completely pointless!

    • @ifyoucanthandletruthdontpost
      @ifyoucanthandletruthdontpost Год назад

      PCSO,s are usually the kids or relatives of cops full.of nepotism

    • @reccerat4446
      @reccerat4446 Год назад +15

      But it's good for individual virtue signalling points ehh!

    • @alexedwards6509
      @alexedwards6509 Год назад

      The government sacked or laid off experienced police officers and now pay for inexperience people without the same powers or training to occupy the police cars.
      Well done the Tory party. Formally known as the law and order party. Who wants help from a 6 foot six ex-soldier when a 5 foot, 110 lb female ex-student is cheaper

    • @trikstari7687
      @trikstari7687 Год назад +4

      Welcome to government.

    • @Lee_303
      @Lee_303 Год назад +16

      This is Britain, the sheer amount of grifters in high paid positions of sitting about is phenomenal

  • @laineyqueen
    @laineyqueen Год назад +180

    There seems to be more concern about free speech and political views than actual crime. That is what it looks like to the public.

    • @63mckenzie
      @63mckenzie Год назад +13

      The caller should have told them they were tearing down pride flags and a whole squad would have turned up with dogs and helicopters.

    • @Aerojet01
      @Aerojet01 Год назад +5

      Remind me why we pay our taxes?

    • @63mckenzie
      @63mckenzie Год назад +4

      @@Aerojet01 To defeat Napoleon.

    • @ChronicCraftsman
      @ChronicCraftsman Год назад +3

      If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.

    • @edwardoleyba3075
      @edwardoleyba3075 Год назад +1

      @@63mckenzie. Yes, as a “temporary measure”. Funny how it never went away?

  • @samanthabowley4773
    @samanthabowley4773 Год назад +188

    I had the same problem with police last month when I called the police. I had 3 big guys trespassing on my property taking drugs and they told me they couldn't attend unless the try and break in. I'm disabled and told them I didn't feel safe and got told to lock myself in my bathroom if they broke in and then I could call them back. Total disgrace.

    • @MarekzAnglii
      @MarekzAnglii Год назад +28

      That's absolutely disgusting! Make a complaint... a huge one. I'd say, even contact the media, I'm sure they'd run your story.

    • @thecuttingsark5094
      @thecuttingsark5094 Год назад +13

      Meanwhile in America, 3 dead criminals

    • @seb1554
      @seb1554 Год назад +1

      This is sickening. I’m sorry to hear that, the police are paralysed with fear now. They know the justice system is against them so don’t want to risk anything, it’s not their fault really.

    • @Simonet1309
      @Simonet1309 Год назад +25

      You should have told them you were lgbtqxyz and they were offending you. They would have been round in a shot.

    • @davidburke7777
      @davidburke7777 Год назад +9

      @wideye2901 The IOPC is staffed by ex cops mate they’ll do nothing

  • @boztec7187
    @boztec7187 Год назад +113

    Can't even police themselves, let alone the public. 🤬

    • @kevinparker461
      @kevinparker461 Год назад +1

      UK Police are a disgrace, & have been for years. Incompetence & plod go hand in glove they are also lazy & cowardly. Never forget the under age vulnerable girls in Rochdale that were being raped on a huge scale for years, & the plod had known about it for years ... i dispise the tax sponging bastards!!!

  • @wishteria234
    @wishteria234 Год назад +125

    so why pay for a community police officer who do nothing, not even call a real policeman

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад +1

      I was a PSCO for 12 years and have a wonderful and rewarding time. Yes, the job was to interact and talk (not fight) with the public, call the Police if required - sacking offence if you don't call - and be a professional witness. Eyes and Ears was the usual description. Force multiplier in military terms. But liability issues meant any physical involvement would be under "personal liability" and strictly against orders. If it went wrong you would "on your own" - and they were scared they might get sued! I worked with ethnic minorities who could pass Police exams and people much too old to be Police - and it worked very well in the role of talking and defusing situations that the Police struggled with.

    • @robbailie5878
      @robbailie5878 Год назад +8

      @@HankD13 Thank you for your service but you just highlighted how much of a band aid the PCSO role is.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад +1

      @@robbailie5878My 12 years was great, and I though (used properly) worked well. Not Police - eyes and ears, freeing Police to more needed roles. We had many people, ethnic minorities and elderly who interacted with the public far better than the Police - which was the idea. (We were also replacements for the Traffic Wardens). We would liked to have done more - but the liability issues were never sorted out in my time. A Post 911 band aid indeed - but was a good idea - but slowly forced more and more into a "Police" role in my final years - that did not work. Then they sacked me for speaking up too much!

    • @davidmoody3810
      @davidmoody3810 Год назад +6

      PCSOs are a waste of money, they should enlist more Special Constables who do actually have the powers of arrest and have training to deal with situations like this. I was a special constable for eight years and was a more useful addition to the force instead of PCSOs. We have two female PCSOs where I live and they are completely useless, they can't deal with the anti social behaviour, minor crimes, theft, burglaries etc, its a complete waste of tax payers money.....a few weeks ago they were being verbally abused by some teenagers and just burst out crying, its ridiculous. If I hadn't have stepped in to help they would have been in serious trouble.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад +1

      @@rogermelly8260 Nope. They get paid very well - not as much as qualified police officer, but better than a probationer. "Special Constables" are the unpaid volunteers.

  • @TheWtfnonamez
    @TheWtfnonamez Год назад +114

    I personally experienced the exact same thing in London.
    Local kids smashed in my windows and ran off, only one of them cut himself doing it and we found him because an ambulance turned up.
    We saw a police car, dashed over and tried to get them to arrest the kid. They were eating big macs and checking their mobiles, and they flatly REFUSED to arrest the kid.
    Eventually we gave up and called 999 and they said they would send someone right over.
    Nobody showed up.
    Nobody called at my house
    Nobody ever called me back
    Not a damn thing was ever done.
    Eventually I found out that the incident was logged and then immediately closed.
    Meanwhile people are getting arrested for mean tweets.

    • @dave6199
      @dave6199 Год назад

      Seems like a vicious circle cops lose interest in doing their jobs properly as the crims get a slap on the wrist and told dont do it again but in the mean time crime gets out of hand as seen as normal

    • @MrKbassett17
      @MrKbassett17 Год назад +3

      I got robbed and assaulted and police did nothing didnt even come to get a statement from me even tho I new the person that did it so I took law into my own hands then they arrested me what's point of the police

    • @G-host0069
      @G-host0069 Год назад

      @@MrKbassett17I was robbed in broad daylight, the police turned up instantly they took all of the details and saw to my injuries. The perpetrator was apprehended in another county later that day as he and his accomplices had been tracked via ANPR the whole way back from where they would have been caught on cctv my end.
      HOWEVER I went and did a police lineup and picked the guy straight out but since then they have not been in contact but I am hopeful this will be dealt with correctly and get to court.
      I’m sorry you have been let down but get on at them and assertively get them to take you seriously

    • @MrKbassett17
      @MrKbassett17 Год назад

      @@G-host0069 I did get on there case and they dont want to no this happened last year Feb the 8th police nicked me instead when I was the victim so I took the law into my own hands and paint strip his truck that was brand new as he took my new iPhone 13 and £100

    • @mattaddison1910
      @mattaddison1910 Год назад

      The police are not to blame for what you experienced. Blame your government for cutting funding from the police.

  • @hairyjohn5825
    @hairyjohn5825 Год назад +62

    Everything is in a state of decline!

  • @sjanex
    @sjanex Год назад +131

    Should have said someone was called the wrong pronouns, they would have been straight there.

  • @kevinwebb6338
    @kevinwebb6338 Год назад +35

    The police don't care. Say no more.

  • @joelsmith1866
    @joelsmith1866 Год назад +56

    Should have said they were trans and they had their feelings hurt, he would have shot round there

    • @spudspuddy
      @spudspuddy Год назад

      he couldn't get out the police car, the kinky womens underwear he was wearing was round his knees...he's scum hope the cops he works with give him hell

  • @hellsbells7271
    @hellsbells7271 Год назад +66

    Aww come on they do have priorities they need to attend to first, there's someone offending another person somewhere that's much more urgent than an actual criminal offence.
    Absolutely unbelievable.

  • @rideawhiteswantrex
    @rideawhiteswantrex Год назад +80

    The police will respond in an instance and with force the second that someone is misgendered, so that's how you get the cops to come to a scene.

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 Год назад

      It;s the all-new Snowflake Patrol, cowardly wannabe cops hiding in their safe spaces searching for anyone saying rude words and pretending these are grand crimes and pretending to deal with it.

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 Год назад

      Tell them you are a trans migrant and they will then be forced to actually do something.

  • @losttapes1705
    @losttapes1705 Год назад +98

    And how dare he even speak to a member of the public like that. Gross, incompetent, revolting. The whole institution needs overhauling, it's disgusting.

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Год назад +1

      Welcome to the new normal 🫤

    • @ChronicCraftsman
      @ChronicCraftsman Год назад +2

      If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Год назад

      @@rogermelly8260 oh yes a volunteer that doesn’t want to work…. Chocolate teapot!

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Год назад

      @@rogermelly8260 I’m not concerned

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Год назад

      @@rogermelly8260 nah ain’t fussed, the British Establishment and all of its minions can go f£&k themselves 👍🏻

  • @MrClingclong
    @MrClingclong Год назад +61

    "That's very disappointing", that's an understatement!
    This has been going on for quite a while here in the UK, too many idiot cops just killing time until they can get their pension. They're disgusting.

    • @lambastepirate
      @lambastepirate Год назад +2

      That's not as bad as in the US we have too many who shoot at the drop of a hat!!!

    • @alanfrost4661
      @alanfrost4661 Год назад

      Well done yank cops

    • @phoenixrose1192
      @phoenixrose1192 Год назад

      And the police prey on the bereaved as well, they’re sent to people’s houses if an elderly person dies at home in their sleep instead of a hospital or a care home. As if that day wasn’t traumatic enough for us…we had rude, emotionally thick coppers with no medical expertise whatsoever to cope with.😢

  • @rogerwilson6367
    @rogerwilson6367 Год назад +27

    He should have told them there was someone compiling offensive Tweets at the shop. Guaranteed to work every time.

    • @pam164
      @pam164 Год назад +3

      Yep instant arrest.

  • @Steve-ho4xb
    @Steve-ho4xb Год назад +22

    So what is the point of these PCO officers? What a joke!!!

  • @kenholmes7075
    @kenholmes7075 Год назад +26

    Our police are good at just two things, setting up motorist speed traps and dancing the Macarena.

    • @goldiegirl7247
      @goldiegirl7247 Год назад +4

      And drawing a nice fat pension for doing as little as they possibly can ..unless of coarse someone has used some hurty words and they need to be told to check their thinking, they'll respond to that.

    • @kenholmes7075
      @kenholmes7075 Год назад +1

      @@goldiegirl7247 agreed

    • @G-host0069
      @G-host0069 Год назад

      In Lincoln?

  • @idlehands1864
    @idlehands1864 Год назад +42

    If you ever need police to help, just tell them that a 12 year old is sending edgy tweets and theyll be right there

  • @politirel2
    @politirel2 Год назад +65

    He's very brave for challenging a copper, I would be scared that that they woud arrest me, the police these days are a law unto themselves.

    • @jannenreuben7398
      @jannenreuben7398 Год назад +13

      It was a PCSO not a copper. Same authority as a dinner lady but much less useful.

    • @twistedsister2568
      @twistedsister2568 Год назад +2

      Unless we challenge things whether we are at risk us the reason why crime is getting out of control. Too many people sat complaining but doing nothing about it

    • @ianking8315
      @ianking8315 Год назад +7

      he will probably be arrested at a later date due to hurt feelings of the pcso.

    • @ynwa3476
      @ynwa3476 Год назад

      ​@jannenreuben7398 PCSO powers
      •Confiscation of alcohol from any person in a designated place
      • Confiscation of alcohol from young people aged under l8
      • Confiscation of alcohol from young people aged under l6
      • Removal of abandoned vehicles
      • Seizure of vehicles used to cause alarm, distress or annoyance after a warning has been given
      • Enter property to save life or limb or to prevent serious damage
      • Carry out road checks under section 4 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
      • Place traffic signs
      • Stop vehicles for the purpose of testing
      • Stop cycles for riding on a footpath
      • Regulate traffic for the purpose of escorting abnormal loads
      • Enforce cordon areas under section 36 of the Terrorism Act 2000
      • Stop and search of vehicles and items carried by persons in authorization areas in the company of a constable (sections 44 and 45 of the Terrorism Act 2000)
      • Enforce local by-laws
      • Deal with begging under section 3 & 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824
      • Direct traffic for offences other than escorting an abnormal load
      • Remove children in contravention of curfew notices to their place of residence under subsections 15(1)1 (2) and (3) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998
      • Disperse groups and remove persons under 16 to their place of residence under Section 30 of the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003.
      PCSOs also have the power to require a person’s name and address in the following circumstances:
      • Reasonable belief of a relevant offence
      • Relevant fixed penalty notice
      • Offence involving injury, alarm or distress
      • Offence involving loss or damage to property
      • Road traffic offence whereby a pedestrian fails to follow the directions of a PCSO
      • Reasonable belief that a person is acting in an antisocial manner
      Power to detain
      A PCSO has the power to detain a person for a period of up to 30 minutes, pending the arrival of a police constable, or require the person to accompany them to a police station if the following offence is committed:
      Failure to comply with a request to give name and address or gives a false or inaccurate name and address.
      A PCSO may also issue local authority fixed penalty notices for:
      • Dog fouling
      • Litter
      • Graffiti/fly posting
      • Cycling on a footpath
      • Disorder
      •In addition, Traffic PCSO'S also have all the powers of a Traffic Warden in relation to enforcing parking contraventions.
      I didn't know a dinner lady could do any of the above. Stop talking utter nonsense and stop lying to people.

    • @davidmoody3810
      @davidmoody3810 Год назад

      he's not a police officer, he's a PCSO who has no powers at all, can't even give you a ticket

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 Год назад +24

    If they can't do the job that they're paid to do then they should be sacked plain and simple

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      They should report it. But getting "physically" involved could indeed get them sacked. PSCO are not Police - and the Police authorities are scared of the liability issues. PSCO that ignore the order not to get involved do so under "personal liability" so if it goes wrong the Police can disown them or even sack them.

    • @SenpaiTorpidDOW
      @SenpaiTorpidDOW 2 месяца назад

      @@HankD13 PCSOs are Police, they are police officers and police staff. They are not police constables. Were you really a PCSO and you don't even know this? That about sums up the calibre of those recruited for the role...
      I have no idea what you are banging on about with orders and personal liability. That may be a thing local to whatever force you worked for but that is not a national thing in legislation. Plenty of PCSOs get involved in conflict - in fact I have seen them aiding with kicking down doors for house arrests... Any person PCSO or none-police is justified legally in using force to assist a constable in effecting an arrest, or, for arresting a person committing or having just committed an inditable offence that is likely to escape arrest if that person does not use that force!

  • @gillian9178
    @gillian9178 Год назад +35

    If the police refuse to attend a crime, then it is only just & proper that citizens step in to deal with things. With no fear of arrest themselves or prosecution. That would cetainly also sort out once & for all Just Spot Oil protesters blocking roads & disrupting events. I also object to paying for the police & getting nothing for my money.

    • @trikstari7687
      @trikstari7687 Год назад

      You forget, the governments of the west have been taken over by saboteurs whose only desire is to destroy the nations they have infiltrated and subverted.
      They will absolutely arrest you for stepping in an enforcing the laws that they refuse to enforce.
      Nor will they ever allow you to vote your way out of this.

    • @ianashton1593
      @ianashton1593 Год назад +1

      Exactly right, our council tax goes towards paying for the police but they don’t do their job. Cost increases every year and the services get worse !!

    • @miblvd431
      @miblvd431 Год назад

      You are commenting as if there is real law system in place, there is not! People are feeling and experiencing it across the country for some time! There is no support if you step in! You will be dealt with by faux police!

  • @Ms.Shortcake2008
    @Ms.Shortcake2008 Год назад +25

    PCSO and police don’t actually police anymore. Why the surprise? People have been saying this for years.

    • @AllOuttaBubblegum123
      @AllOuttaBubblegum123 Год назад

      They care more about their "image"

    • @spudspuddy
      @spudspuddy Год назад

      thats why they are re-branding to POS

    • @rationalbacon5872
      @rationalbacon5872 Год назад +1

      Oh they police wrong opinions pretty swiftly

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 Год назад

      they do whatever is on the computer or radio nothing else

    • @miblvd431
      @miblvd431 Год назад

      @@hassyg4083 so I guess best to email the evidence into report so there is a trace!

  • @jonnya4209
    @jonnya4209 Год назад +23

    Must have thought being in the police was all joining parades and descending like a swat team on homes of people with different opinions.

  • @truckerfromreno
    @truckerfromreno Год назад +61

    I have come to hate the police. The day will come when the public give them what they deserve.

    • @benjiskitts
      @benjiskitts Год назад

      Old school coppers say don't hate the police hate the government that put them there

    • @barrazoot1777
      @barrazoot1777 Год назад +2

      I won’t hold my breath

    • @fluxington
      @fluxington Год назад +5

      @@barrazoot1777 Asthma?

    • @pam164
      @pam164 Год назад +3

      They get paid for nothing, would love a job there.

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 Год назад +2

      yeah British public too scared to do Paris on them

  • @garymacmillan6401
    @garymacmillan6401 Год назад +12

    I bet if this was an alleged hate crime, they'd be there like a shot.

  • @user-en2tl2fw1c
    @user-en2tl2fw1c Год назад +2

    As a retired +30 year cop ..... any cop refusing to help a member of the public ... ESPECIALLY HIDING AROUND THE CORNER ... IS A COWARD !!!!

  • @linm9598
    @linm9598 Год назад +15

    Absolutely shameful!! Sack them asap & try to change your recruitment process & get people who actually want to do the job!!

  • @arnesaknussemm2427
    @arnesaknussemm2427 Год назад +62

    That is a criminal offence for this officer to refuse to attend.

    • @andywilliams7323
      @andywilliams7323 Год назад +10

      It isn't. There's no legislation in existence which mandates that a PCSO or Police Officer must attend an incident. Police Services will have their own regulations and disciplinary policies regarding the attendance of incidents. But there is no national legislation on the matter. So Police Officers or PCSOs failing to attend an incident is not a criminal offence.

    • @user-sc4jy2hk5e
      @user-sc4jy2hk5e Год назад +6

      Sack him..asap

    • @oddjobtriumph1635
      @oddjobtriumph1635 Год назад +8

      @@andywilliams7323 it's Criminal they take a Pay cheque

    • @patthewoodboy
      @patthewoodboy Год назад

      @@andywilliams7323 so whats the point of employing them , you are obviously a PCSO and unfit for purpose taking 28K a year salary and doing nothing

    • @noelwallace5257
      @noelwallace5257 Год назад +3

      @@andywilliams7323wrong! If a Constable is made aware he’s duty bound to act full stop!

  • @christopherdavis4135
    @christopherdavis4135 Год назад +37

    If people know that Police officers won't attend criminal incidents, then it gives some individuals a free for all to do what they please.

    • @bigjohnhansome5779
      @bigjohnhansome5779 Год назад

      He's not a police officer. He's a PCSO. Get your facts right.

  • @eddylloyd7413
    @eddylloyd7413 Год назад +15

    Dereliction of duty and deserving the Order of the White Feather.

    • @user-wf4hy4ub7p
      @user-wf4hy4ub7p Год назад

      @eddylloyd7413. What they deserve is a good smearing of hot tar and LOADS of feathers, white or any other colour.

  • @WetBandit-qo9xd
    @WetBandit-qo9xd Год назад +16

    At the very least he could have taken the word of the driver at face value, driven his little Noddy car around the corner and made a judgement. If his powers under the law or his ability as an individual weren't enough to resolve the situation he would be ideally placed to radio in for back up. Unless of course the rest of the force were dancing with obese black women at Carnival or holding onto the leash of their gimp at Pride.

  • @ofviac
    @ofviac Год назад +5

    I was attacked whilst at work (dumping collection for a local council)
    10+ punches thrown at me, massive lump on my head, concussion and bruising on the face.
    I gave them the address the man walked out of, his number plate, the make and model of the vehicle and a description of the identifying “love my children”tattoo down his arm.
    Didn’t even bother to send anyone out, had to go to the station to make my statement.
    Aaaaaaaand that’s the last I heard of it 👌 this video sums up our entire country’s policing efforts 🤦‍♂️

  • @garrywatters1140
    @garrywatters1140 Год назад +4

    PCSO equates to overpaid security guard. No authority whatsoever. Pointless position.

  • @iamspartacus3114
    @iamspartacus3114 Год назад +10

    Chance would be a fine thing if we ever saw one of these guys to be let down by.

  • @ChronicCraftsman
    @ChronicCraftsman Год назад +7

    If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous

  • @Elldeeve
    @Elldeeve Год назад +8

    They have been told to cause as much disruption to the public. A good way to divide people.

  • @CG-zm9oj
    @CG-zm9oj Год назад +13

    Everyone has a power of arrest. While waiting for a police officer

    • @internetenjoyer1044
      @internetenjoyer1044 Год назад +1

      not worth it, you have to know the crime etc

    • @stuartb4525
      @stuartb4525 Год назад +3

      Depends what it the supposed crime is. You are referring to a Citizen's Arrest, which must be an indictable offence. If you happen to accidentally hurt the perp, then unfortunately these days you will be in trouble. That is why lots of people don't get involved, as they end up in bother, even though they thought they were doing the right thing.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      @@stuartb4525 As a Met PCSO our "any persons" powers were suspended by a standing order. If we did get physically involved (and we often did) it was under "personal liability" and the Police could disown us for disobeying a standing order.

    • @stuartb4525
      @stuartb4525 Год назад +1

      @@HankD13 This wasn't the MET, This was Surrey Constabulary, each force area have different rules for PCSOs as in powers. Some can carry handcuffs because the Chief says you can. Other Chiefs don't grant that power.
      They can still attend a ' crime ' in progress, watch and report if required for real police to attend, this PCSO referred to in the video wasn't even prepared to do that. The least he could of done was a drive past, as most people will assume the police car contained a police person, that might of been the answer.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      @@stuartb4525 True - BTP PSCO has cuffs - train carriages. I am talking ten years ago also - things may have changed. Would still like to know Surry policy - and have the addressed the liability issues?

  • @whurbere_dashcam
    @whurbere_dashcam Год назад +7

    I feel we are no longer policed by consent but are now policed by default. It’s time the police were taken to task and all those corrupt constables fired.

  • @moby1388
    @moby1388 Год назад +3

    PSOs can detain a person for up to 30 minutes until a police constable arrives.

  • @kwanchan6745
    @kwanchan6745 Год назад +6

    the police don't care...why is this such a surprise ?
    I've seen it myself
    the police seem to be more interested in helping just stop oil or dancing the macarena, than preventing or investigating crime

  • @fatwallet13
    @fatwallet13 Год назад +2

    Incident was a 26 second drive away PCSO should be sacked, no ifs or buts! 😡

  • @joeking7707
    @joeking7707 Год назад +2

    Too busy asisting bailiffs evicting family's to deal with minor crimes such as drunken disorder and assault.

  • @Rabmac1UK
    @Rabmac1UK Год назад +4

    Disgraceful. Is it any wonder that we are swiftly losing all confidence in the Police

  • @smilertoo
    @smilertoo Год назад +1

    Should be told his services are no longer required.

  • @noodles8203
    @noodles8203 Год назад +3

    The point is not that they had power of arrest, but they didnt even want to attend, and at least show up.

  • @judithwalton1523
    @judithwalton1523 Год назад +3

    He's not a police officer. He's a volunteer who needs sacking

    • @SenpaiTorpidDOW
      @SenpaiTorpidDOW 2 месяца назад

      If you haven't realised since PCSOs aren't volunteers, unfortunately these useless officers are salaried, albeit at only 60% of that of a full scale PC pay. Special constables are the volunteers and they actually have full police powers.

  • @nathanfurnival8724
    @nathanfurnival8724 Год назад +11

    Shame shame 😳

  • @margo.3466
    @margo.3466 Год назад +2

    Thank you Norman Brenann❤

  • @johnnyhollis9977
    @johnnyhollis9977 Год назад +3

    The very least he could have done was to attend and call for back up! What was the point of him driving a response vehicle or even having a job!

  • @jon-gz4ed
    @jon-gz4ed Год назад +5

    Why the fuck have they got a police car

  • @gmdhargreaves
    @gmdhargreaves Год назад +3

    Disgusting officer, we should stop paying the council tax over this in court

    • @gmdhargreaves
      @gmdhargreaves Год назад

      @@rogermelly8260 PCSO’s are fully payed and payed well from Council taxes and are expected to deal with criminal situations I’m not sure what you are relating this incident to from anything from the past???

  • @Andy-yh5ry
    @Andy-yh5ry Год назад +1

    Here in Hampshire, The Police refuse to attend an ongoing issue with anti-social behaviour but they are often seen in the garage forecourt literally 200m away drinking coffee!!

  • @loganblackwood2922
    @loganblackwood2922 Год назад +4

    Yes, I been let down in this way. I had neighbourhood drug dealers selling outside of my property, their kids physically assaulted me, my kids and my dog broke my house windows and damaged my car. The police told me there was nothing they could do without evidence, even though one of the buggers admitted it and said he did it because, and I quote "He is a pedo."

    • @G-host0069
      @G-host0069 Год назад

      They all like to use that now. It gives them a free for all

  • @CalmingAnxiety
    @CalmingAnxiety Год назад +4

    car driver to PCSE " I witnessed someone misgerndering a shop worker and making a hurtful tweet".
    PCSO "Hold my beer"......

  • @Jim90117
    @Jim90117 Год назад +1

    PCSO should be dismissed immediately. They are clearly not capable.

  • @robg5958
    @robg5958 Год назад +1

    The PCSO in question should be sacked as an example to the rest of them and to restore public confidence.

  • @doozie98
    @doozie98 Год назад +5

    Seems like a lot of crimes are committed at the wild bean cafe

  • @davebritton7648
    @davebritton7648 Год назад +3

    Surprised he wasn't arrested for something or other.
    Edit: Ah, I see it's Sussex police. As a resident of Sussex, that explains a lot!

  • @duncansmith7562
    @duncansmith7562 Год назад +1

    The mistake was for the member of the public to NOT say "someone was misgendered and it looks like a Pride flag was torn down at the supermarket"

  • @Nilzipan
    @Nilzipan Год назад +1

    The absolute worst of humanity right there.

  • @lizheart3058
    @lizheart3058 Год назад +4

    We Needed police and got CCTV footage. They came a week later and told us that they couldn’t take the footage we had to do it online LOL

  • @graemef6852
    @graemef6852 Год назад +7

    The fact is PCSO's are not Police officer's. Why forces are allowing PCSO's to drive Police cars I'll never understand. PCSO's were designed to cover jobs that did not need a warranted officer, ie carrying out crime scene security, giving crime prevention advice in neighbourhoods, providing a visible presence outside a school. They do have a power to detain, also numerous other powers but PCSO's are generally lazy. I have experience of PCSO's in West Midlands Police who have refused to provide a statement for a crime they've witnessed, they have refused to walk on patrol to a point it was Police officers walking and the PCSO's driving around in the marked police cars. WMP now place PCSO's in domestic violence teams, back office jobs etc etc all of which is contrary to their original deployment plan under David Blunkett the then Home Secretary.
    I am glad this incident has come to light, but this is happening across the country. PCSO's are just wanna be cops, who dont want any responsibility or accountability.

    • @melb6528
      @melb6528 Год назад

      Ditto for West Mercia and Warwickshire, the worrying thing is that after all these years they general public still often think they are talking to a police officer .

    • @AthenaLolita2
      @AthenaLolita2 Год назад

      They have been given responsibilty but no power. Not their fault.

    • @graemef6852
      @graemef6852 Год назад

      ​@@AthenaLolita2no, please look at all the powers they do have, they can detain people, issue fixed penalty notices for numerous offences, deal with kids smoking under age, drinkers on the streets, off license selling drink to drunk people. They have powers, they just don't use them, which comes down to laziness or cowardice as this member of the public described.

    • @graemef6852
      @graemef6852 Год назад

      ​​​@@AthenaLolita2so the fact this particular PCSO is hiding in a marked police vehicle proves the point. Perhaps if he actually got out of the car and walked around the shopping area he might have prevented this incident actually happening in the first instance.
      I'm guessing you are one of these PCSO's that is why you are so defensive and offended.
      Just remember, facts don't care about your feelings.

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 Год назад

      @@AthenaLolita2 But they are shitty people to start with, wanting to play power piggie, so there is that, which is their fault.

  • @nigelleyland166
    @nigelleyland166 Год назад +2

    They are a complete waste of tax payers money, It would be better spent on more real officers rather than these plastic clones!

  • @Stop-this714
    @Stop-this714 Год назад +2

    I’ve witnessed the Same, Weak Scared Police being abused by youths in Birmingham in a shopping centre full of Shoppers then the Police driving off whist being insulted, I did complain stating if the Police are seen to be scared and run away from these thugs what are the Citizens supposed to think 😞

  • @robbeales5516
    @robbeales5516 Год назад +3

    I am a joiner,good job I’m not terrified of wood and nails 😂😂😂

  • @radbot1
    @radbot1 Год назад +4

    So what is that officer paid to do? Arrest someone for reporting outside of a sentencing hearing because clearly they are the real criminal! Our police are politized into policing your thoughts, not protecting your physical safety.

    • @Paul-pf6rm
      @Paul-pf6rm Год назад

      Why are you afraid to state Tommy's name? 😅

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      PSCOs are not Police. Civilians, with no powers of arrest and under strict order not to get physically involved with members of the public. Eyes and ears. Legal liability issues mean the authorities are scared of getting sued if it went wrong. If a PCOS does get involved, it would be their own "personal liability" (unlike Police) and it would be against orders and the Police can then disown them to avoid liability - no training or equipment(ie cuffs) provided to PSCO that Police get.

    • @radbot1
      @radbot1 Год назад +1

      @@Paul-pf6rm Because it's not just Tommy, it'll be all of us.

  • @newbymick1
    @newbymick1 Год назад +1

    This makes the position of a PCSO pointless and a drain on the public purse.

  • @Simonet1309
    @Simonet1309 Год назад +1

    What amazes me is that you ever thought the police did give a 💩.

  • @LeadsTheFallen
    @LeadsTheFallen Год назад +6

    A PCSO can use reasonable force to arrest or detain a suspected offender. PCSOs in theory can all use handcuffs to detain using their own detention powers or arrest using 'any person' powers when on duty

    • @andywilliams7323
      @andywilliams7323 Год назад

      It depends entirely on which Police Service the PCSO serves in. The former police officer was not entirely accurate in his statement. What powers a PCSO has and what they can and can't do varies significantly across the various Police Services of the UK. PCSOs serving in Sussex Police DO NOT have any arrest powers. They DO NOT carry handcuffs, and they DO NOT carry a baton or CS Spray. They only have the power and ability to politely/nicely detain someone for a maximum of 30 minutes while they wait for a Police Officer to attend.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад +2

      As a Met PCSO we had a standing order: "Under NO circumstances must a PSCO become physically involved with members of the public, even to come to the aid of Police Officer" - it was a liability issues - and the Met was scared of getting sued. If we were injured, or injured someone, the lack of training or PPE equipment (NO CUFFS) it would be under "personal liability" and leave the Met open to being sued. As a PSCO you knew if any thing went wrong, you would be "out on your own" and had disobeyed a very clear and direct standing order.

    • @_dude..
      @_dude.. Год назад

      ​@@HankD13So, if someone's life was being threatened and a PCSO was there they would just stand by and watch someone being harmed or murdered?
      How noble.

    • @davidmoody3810
      @davidmoody3810 Год назад

      wrong, a PCSO cannot detain or arrest anyone, they have no powers of arrest and no powers at all only to observe and report the incident. They are basically just a video camera with legs!!

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic Год назад

      @@andywilliams7323 How does the policy of Sussex Police override national law? Genuine question, I'm struggling to understand the situation.

  • @angusgibson7954
    @angusgibson7954 Год назад +4

    My experience with PCSO's is they are rarely of the Character where they can cope with inflamed situations. the community would be better served if the pcso fund was funnelled into the police force Allowing more fully operational officers. it is also about time that police officers were allowed to do their Jobs without their hands being tied to politically correct woke quotas and imagined crimes. and when they do their jobs they must be backed up by a strong legal system, when governments can't get the basics right everything else collapses around it.

  • @susanbishop5228
    @susanbishop5228 Год назад +1

    When a man is making a fool of himself. Let him continue.
    What's he doing in a marked police car.
    Mr Brennan knows his law.
    Unlike this man .and senior officers.

  • @garyinmaine1278
    @garyinmaine1278 Год назад +2

    I always wanted to visit England, But not now, Its no place for a Normal person.

  • @McMillanScottish
    @McMillanScottish Год назад +37

    My problem isn’t the police refusing to act, it’s citizens refusing to reclaim their rights and take responsibility for what’s happening around them. Get rid of the police. Take back your guns. Take back your streets. You’re paying them to do nothing.

    • @MARTIN-bd7gm
      @MARTIN-bd7gm Год назад +3

      Yes that's going to solve the problem DOH .

    • @Richard-hc6zj
      @Richard-hc6zj Год назад +2

      we all will follow you

    • @goneaway9185
      @goneaway9185 Год назад

      ​@@MARTIN-bd7gmif you can't look after yourself. Then you're nothing!

    • @trikstari7687
      @trikstari7687 Год назад

      @@MARTIN-bd7gm More so than any of the lefts policies of "destroy your own civilization and genocide yourself because history bad".

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 Год назад +2

      yeh more gangs with guns. machine gun shoot outs

  • @crotchet1586
    @crotchet1586 Год назад +2

    They should have a monthly bingo game for all the crime reference numbers they give out. At least they'll be useful then

  • @margo.3466
    @margo.3466 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this vid. That pcso must be fired......there is no excuse for his non action!

  • @B-26354
    @B-26354 Год назад +1

    The role of PCSO needs to be reviewed and gotten rid of.
    They're useless, a huge waste of tax payer money.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 Год назад +4

    Messed up situation.

  • @reccerat4446
    @reccerat4446 Год назад +6

    Give the plod some credit, he/she/it (you never know nowadays) was probably researching a facebook post that had hurty words in it!

  • @junkyarddog4411
    @junkyarddog4411 Год назад +1

    I wish I could get paid for sitting in my car and not doing my job.

  • @rogermellie8068
    @rogermellie8068 Год назад +1

    Defunding the police sounded ridiculous 3 years ago now it doesn't.

  • @djjlc
    @djjlc Год назад +7

    Jobs are given to people based on who they know. Not what they know. As long as society continues down This path don’t expect things to go good for you. Nepotism is dangerous

  • @hassyg4083
    @hassyg4083 Год назад +3

    like the PCSO said its not his job . each police constabulary has its own policies and procedures in England. They come out in force for auditors and people filming in public if anyones seen auditing videos

    • @John_Lyle
      @John_Lyle Год назад

      If it is "not his job" then why is he getting paid?
      Perhaps if the person had reported that somebody had said something transphobic the PCSO would have intervened, and probably called for support in force like they for gor "auditors"

  • @critterIMHO
    @critterIMHO Год назад +1

    Cops would rather clean up the mess afterwards than put themselves at even the slightest risk by getting involved.

  • @David_Camerwrongun
    @David_Camerwrongun Год назад

    Had my house bricked 3 weeks in a row, told it wasn't a crime and been ignored since

  • @petersmith9470
    @petersmith9470 Год назад +2

    I once pulled a suicide victim out of a garage filled with car fumes, lifted him over his car and placed him on the grassed area by the garages to try CPR but I could tell he had passed away, went to my mother's and phone for the police and ambulance on return to the scene the services were there so I asked the police officer if they wanted a statement as I had moved the body and the reply was " don't bother, it'll be alright".
    Move along sir, there's nothing to see here, nowt changes

  • @Agaliki6
    @Agaliki6 Год назад +2

    Yes i was beat up by 3 women and they wasn't even arrested, shocking 🤯

  • @simonmenzies3142
    @simonmenzies3142 Год назад +1

    I was mugged by 4 polish lads and had my phone stolen out of my hand in Doncaster town center.
    There were two police cars directly infront of me. I ran over to the car, and told them.
    I was told to ‘go away or they would arrest me’
    I instantly went to the police car behind and told them. They also told me to ‘go away or they would arrest me’
    The muggers simply walked up the street.
    Witnesses told me they saw tbe whole thing and couldn’t believe it.
    I no longer go to Doncaster town center it is completely unsafe.
    Police are there for decoration only

  • @number_48
    @number_48 Год назад +5

    Really hard to defend. Symptomatic of our society sadly. If he doesn't WANT or feel he NEEDS to do something, then I fear he may be in the wrong job.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Год назад

      Absolutely agree

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      PSCO's are not Police. Civilians with very limited powers - they should call it in, that is indeed their job - but are under orders not to get physically involved. Not because they don't want to, but it is a liability issue. No training or ppe equipment like Police - so if it went wrong - the Police Authority could be liable. So they issue a clear order, not to get involved, so they can then disown anybody to takes the risk to do so - under "personal liability" and risk getting sacked.

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic Год назад

      @@HankD13 They have powers of arrest and he could at the very least have driven round, investigated the situation and requested backup even if he felt he wouldn't be able to deal with it alone.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 Год назад

      @@trolleriffic As a Met PCSO we did not have any power or arrest - quite the opposite. I often got involved with things I should not have - risking "personal liability" issues. Yes, they must call it in - may even have heard it being called in (their radios should pick it up). Personally would have gone around, since I know that usually turning up is enough to see them off - but it was stressed that that was NOT our job - not police officers, not trained, nor equipped to get "involved" with, or lay hands on, members of the public - report it, yes indeed.

  • @kw68
    @kw68 Год назад +2

    I live in this village
    The kids are Robbing co-op on a daily, they know that no one’s gonna do anything,and get away with it…local police station got closed down years ago

  • @pauls-bf1si
    @pauls-bf1si Год назад +1

    If you want the old bill to appear quickly.. Just tell them someone called you a name and you're offended.

  • @pam164
    @pam164 Год назад +2

    This is how this country is going to the Dogs.

  • @user-dl6ft1mg1n
    @user-dl6ft1mg1n Год назад +2

    If they haven't got the powers of the police then they shouldn't be dressed as an officer...

  • @pheasantplucker6117
    @pheasantplucker6117 Год назад +1

    Do you know he's been a Police officer for 33 years. Never heard him mention that before.😮

  • @manishalu7415
    @manishalu7415 Год назад +1

    He should have told the cop "There are people who are trying to break a 'just stop oil' protest by driving around them".
    The cop would be there in a jiffy while also asking for additional backup on the way.

  • @tech10k14
    @tech10k14 Год назад +2

    It didn't involve hurty words towards the protected groups, or legally photographing a station... so not that serious an incident, presumably.

  • @chappy2121
    @chappy2121 Год назад +1

    They wouldn't attend an assault but could send 6 officers to intimidate someone who'd re-tweeted a meme about the rainbow people. Absolutely mental. They wonder why theyre despised and no one helps them 🤦

  • @simonhadley8829
    @simonhadley8829 Год назад +1

    I bet if you dragged that PCSO out of his car he'd suddenly discover his power of arrest.

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 Год назад

      The guy should have properly insulted the coward, called him a pathetic lazy snowflake and a waste of a uniform and tax-payers money, watch the little scumbag squirm, and if the twat presses charges, repeat the insults loud and clear in the court and your reason for using those words.

  • @grahamdaniel9534
    @grahamdaniel9534 Год назад +1

    Norman was absolutely correct most PCSOs would have dealt with this member of the public’s concerns about the ongoing incident the officer in the police car needs retraining or sacking as he is not fit for purpose as an ex PCSO with 14 years service I’m disgusted at how the officer responded to the request of a member of the public and as the saying goes Wouldn’t have happened on my watch