Former Officer Reacts To Video Of Police ‘Refusing’ To Attend Alleged Nearby Assault
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Sussex Police are under fire after footage emerged of a Police Community Support Officer appearing to refuse to attend an alleged assault at a Co-op store just 200 yards away, telling a member of the public who approached him for help: “But then I'll have to deal with it”.
TalkTV’s Ian Collins is joined by former police officer Norman Brennan who says the video is “appalling”.
Norman says: “This makes it look like police officers just don’t care!”
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Amazing. They send upto 6 police officers to a man filming a police station but won't attent actual crimes.
The plonkhead cops sent 5 officers to arrest the woman who was praying silently on the opposite side of the street from an abortion clinic.....they are utterly unfit for purpose.
If you want the police to turn out to help you, tell them you are black or that you are trans and someone just said they don't like you.
They send in a swat team when somebody feels misgendered.
Welcome to western style policing in the 2020s. Cheers!
yeah if anyones seen auditing videos not a good look for british cops
A police Community Support Officer that doesn't Support the Community, is completely pointless!
PCSO,s are usually the kids or relatives of cops full.of nepotism
But it's good for individual virtue signalling points ehh!
Welcome to government.
This is Britain, the sheer amount of grifters in high paid positions of sitting about is phenomenal
A ‘Police Community Support Officer’ is in the very label: Officers who’re hired to only support the police community.
Remember, the police are not on the side of the law-abiding. The police are on the side of the police!
Public Sector Unions took the rest of us out of the equation.
just us
crown servants, not police.
Robocop is already here watching and learning. He has eyes built into every lamp post, junction, crossing, building, every recent vehicle from all sides, stations, your own personal device and from the sky.
If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.
There seems to be more concern about free speech and political views than actual crime. That is what it looks like to the public.
The caller should have told them they were tearing down pride flags and a whole squad would have turned up with dogs and helicopters.
@Wildfox01 To defeat Napoleon.
If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.
@@63mckenzie. Yes, as a “temporary measure”. Funny how it never went away?
Now you’re starting to understand the misgivings and mistrust BLM have towards the police.
I had the same problem with police last month when I called the police. I had 3 big guys trespassing on my property taking drugs and they told me they couldn't attend unless the try and break in. I'm disabled and told them I didn't feel safe and got told to lock myself in my bathroom if they broke in and then I could call them back. Total disgrace.
That's absolutely disgusting! Make a complaint... a huge one. I'd say, even contact the media, I'm sure they'd run your story.
Meanwhile in America, 3 dead criminals
This is sickening. I’m sorry to hear that, the police are paralysed with fear now. They know the justice system is against them so don’t want to risk anything, it’s not their fault really.
You should have told them you were lgbtqxyz and they were offending you. They would have been round in a shot.
@wideye2901 The IOPC is staffed by ex cops mate they’ll do nothing
Can't even police themselves, let alone the public. 🤬
UK Police are a disgrace, & have been for years. Incompetence & plod go hand in glove they are also lazy & cowardly. Never forget the under age vulnerable girls in Rochdale that were being raped on a huge scale for years, & the plod had known about it for years ... i dispise the tax sponging bastards!!!
so why pay for a community police officer who do nothing, not even call a real policeman
I was a PSCO for 12 years and have a wonderful and rewarding time. Yes, the job was to interact and talk (not fight) with the public, call the Police if required - sacking offence if you don't call - and be a professional witness. Eyes and Ears was the usual description. Force multiplier in military terms. But liability issues meant any physical involvement would be under "personal liability" and strictly against orders. If it went wrong you would "on your own" - and they were scared they might get sued! I worked with ethnic minorities who could pass Police exams and people much too old to be Police - and it worked very well in the role of talking and defusing situations that the Police struggled with.
@@HankD13 Thank you for your service but you just highlighted how much of a band aid the PCSO role is.
@@robbailie5878My 12 years was great, and I though (used properly) worked well. Not Police - eyes and ears, freeing Police to more needed roles. We had many people, ethnic minorities and elderly who interacted with the public far better than the Police - which was the idea. (We were also replacements for the Traffic Wardens). We would liked to have done more - but the liability issues were never sorted out in my time. A Post 911 band aid indeed - but was a good idea - but slowly forced more and more into a "Police" role in my final years - that did not work. Then they sacked me for speaking up too much!
@@rogermelly8260 Nope. They get paid very well - not as much as qualified police officer, but better than a probationer. "Special Constables" are the unpaid volunteers.
Great for you but pointless wages spent with little to no benefit to actual victims of crime.
Should have said someone was called the wrong pronouns, they would have been straight there.
Thats what im talking about, NO SURRENDER
😂
I personally experienced the exact same thing in London.
Local kids smashed in my windows and ran off, only one of them cut himself doing it and we found him because an ambulance turned up.
We saw a police car, dashed over and tried to get them to arrest the kid. They were eating big macs and checking their mobiles, and they flatly REFUSED to arrest the kid.
Eventually we gave up and called 999 and they said they would send someone right over.
Nobody showed up.
Nobody called at my house
Nobody ever called me back
Not a damn thing was ever done.
Eventually I found out that the incident was logged and then immediately closed.
Meanwhile people are getting arrested for mean tweets.
Seems like a vicious circle cops lose interest in doing their jobs properly as the crims get a slap on the wrist and told dont do it again but in the mean time crime gets out of hand as seen as normal
I got robbed and assaulted and police did nothing didnt even come to get a statement from me even tho I new the person that did it so I took law into my own hands then they arrested me what's point of the police
@@MrKbassett17I was robbed in broad daylight, the police turned up instantly they took all of the details and saw to my injuries. The perpetrator was apprehended in another county later that day as he and his accomplices had been tracked via ANPR the whole way back from where they would have been caught on cctv my end.
HOWEVER I went and did a police lineup and picked the guy straight out but since then they have not been in contact but I am hopeful this will be dealt with correctly and get to court.
I’m sorry you have been let down but get on at them and assertively get them to take you seriously
@@G-host0069 I did get on there case and they dont want to no this happened last year Feb the 8th police nicked me instead when I was the victim so I took the law into my own hands and paint strip his truck that was brand new as he took my new iPhone 13 and £100
@mattaddison1910 How does funding relate to someone's attitude and willingness to do the job they're paid to do?
Everything is in a state of decline!
Signs of a crumbling society.
And how dare he even speak to a member of the public like that. Gross, incompetent, revolting. The whole institution needs overhauling, it's disgusting.
Welcome to the new normal 🫤
If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous.
@@rogermelly8260 oh yes a volunteer that doesn’t want to work…. Chocolate teapot!
@@rogermelly8260 I’m not concerned
@@rogermelly8260 nah ain’t fussed, the British Establishment and all of its minions can go f£&k themselves 👍🏻
The police don't care. Say no more.
Aww come on they do have priorities they need to attend to first, there's someone offending another person somewhere that's much more urgent than an actual criminal offence.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Yeah those mean tweets are “violence” you know
Like having his lunch you mean
The police will respond in an instance and with force the second that someone is misgendered, so that's how you get the cops to come to a scene.
It;s the all-new Snowflake Patrol, cowardly wannabe cops hiding in their safe spaces searching for anyone saying rude words and pretending these are grand crimes and pretending to deal with it.
Tell them you are a trans migrant and they will then be forced to actually do something.
Should have said they were trans and they had their feelings hurt, he would have shot round there
he couldn't get out the police car, the kinky womens underwear he was wearing was round his knees...he's scum hope the cops he works with give him hell
"That's very disappointing", that's an understatement!
This has been going on for quite a while here in the UK, too many idiot cops just killing time until they can get their pension. They're disgusting.
That's not as bad as in the US we have too many who shoot at the drop of a hat!!!
Well done yank cops
And the police prey on the bereaved as well, they’re sent to people’s houses if an elderly person dies at home in their sleep instead of a hospital or a care home. As if that day wasn’t traumatic enough for us…we had rude, emotionally thick coppers with no medical expertise whatsoever to cope with.😢
He should have told them there was someone compiling offensive Tweets at the shop. Guaranteed to work every time.
Yep instant arrest.
If you ever need police to help, just tell them that a 12 year old is sending edgy tweets and theyll be right there
So what is the point of these PCO officers? What a joke!!!
As a retired +30 year cop ..... any cop refusing to help a member of the public ... ESPECIALLY HIDING AROUND THE CORNER ... IS A COWARD !!!!
He's very brave for challenging a copper, I would be scared that that they woud arrest me, the police these days are a law unto themselves.
It was a PCSO not a copper. Same authority as a dinner lady but much less useful.
Unless we challenge things whether we are at risk us the reason why crime is getting out of control. Too many people sat complaining but doing nothing about it
he will probably be arrested at a later date due to hurt feelings of the pcso.
@jannenreuben7398 PCSO powers
•Confiscation of alcohol from any person in a designated place
• Confiscation of alcohol from young people aged under l8
• Confiscation of alcohol from young people aged under l6
• Removal of abandoned vehicles
• Seizure of vehicles used to cause alarm, distress or annoyance after a warning has been given
• Enter property to save life or limb or to prevent serious damage
• Carry out road checks under section 4 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984
• Place traffic signs
• Stop vehicles for the purpose of testing
• Stop cycles for riding on a footpath
• Regulate traffic for the purpose of escorting abnormal loads
• Enforce cordon areas under section 36 of the Terrorism Act 2000
• Stop and search of vehicles and items carried by persons in authorization areas in the company of a constable (sections 44 and 45 of the Terrorism Act 2000)
• Enforce local by-laws
• Deal with begging under section 3 & 4 of the Vagrancy Act 1824
• Direct traffic for offences other than escorting an abnormal load
• Remove children in contravention of curfew notices to their place of residence under subsections 15(1)1 (2) and (3) of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998
• Disperse groups and remove persons under 16 to their place of residence under Section 30 of the Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003.
PCSOs also have the power to require a person’s name and address in the following circumstances:
• Reasonable belief of a relevant offence
• Relevant fixed penalty notice
• Offence involving injury, alarm or distress
• Offence involving loss or damage to property
• Road traffic offence whereby a pedestrian fails to follow the directions of a PCSO
• Reasonable belief that a person is acting in an antisocial manner
Power to detain
A PCSO has the power to detain a person for a period of up to 30 minutes, pending the arrival of a police constable, or require the person to accompany them to a police station if the following offence is committed:
Failure to comply with a request to give name and address or gives a false or inaccurate name and address.
A PCSO may also issue local authority fixed penalty notices for:
• Dog fouling
• Litter
• Graffiti/fly posting
• Cycling on a footpath
• Disorder
•In addition, Traffic PCSO'S also have all the powers of a Traffic Warden in relation to enforcing parking contraventions.
I didn't know a dinner lady could do any of the above. Stop talking utter nonsense and stop lying to people.
Community Support Officers don't have the authority to make arrests. Pretend cops.
If they can't do the job that they're paid to do then they should be sacked plain and simple
They should report it. But getting "physically" involved could indeed get them sacked. PSCO are not Police - and the Police authorities are scared of the liability issues. PSCO that ignore the order not to get involved do so under "personal liability" so if it goes wrong the Police can disown them or even sack them.
@@HankD13 PCSOs are Police, they are police officers and police staff. They are not police constables. Were you really a PCSO and you don't even know this? That about sums up the calibre of those recruited for the role...
I have no idea what you are banging on about with orders and personal liability. That may be a thing local to whatever force you worked for but that is not a national thing in legislation. Plenty of PCSOs get involved in conflict - in fact I have seen them aiding with kicking down doors for house arrests... Any person PCSO or none-police is justified legally in using force to assist a constable in effecting an arrest, or, for arresting a person committing or having just committed an inditable offence that is likely to escape arrest if that person does not use that force!
That is a criminal offence for this officer to refuse to attend.
It isn't. There's no legislation in existence which mandates that a PCSO or Police Officer must attend an incident. Police Services will have their own regulations and disciplinary policies regarding the attendance of incidents. But there is no national legislation on the matter. So Police Officers or PCSOs failing to attend an incident is not a criminal offence.
Sack him..asap
@@andywilliams7323 it's Criminal they take a Pay cheque
@@andywilliams7323 so whats the point of employing them , you are obviously a PCSO and unfit for purpose taking 28K a year salary and doing nothing
@@andywilliams7323wrong! If a Constable is made aware he’s duty bound to act full stop!
Our police are good at just two things, setting up motorist speed traps and dancing the Macarena.
And drawing a nice fat pension for doing as little as they possibly can ..unless of coarse someone has used some hurty words and they need to be told to check their thinking, they'll respond to that.
@@goldiegirl7247 agreed
In Lincoln?
If people know that Police officers won't attend criminal incidents, then it gives some individuals a free for all to do what they please.
He's not a police officer. He's a PCSO. Get your facts right.
Must have thought being in the police was all joining parades and descending like a swat team on homes of people with different opinions.
PCSO and police don’t actually police anymore. Why the surprise? People have been saying this for years.
They care more about their "image"
thats why they are re-branding to POS
Oh they police wrong opinions pretty swiftly
they do whatever is on the computer or radio nothing else
@@hassyg4083 so I guess best to email the evidence into report so there is a trace!
Absolutely shameful!! Sack them asap & try to change your recruitment process & get people who actually want to do the job!!
If the police refuse to attend a crime, then it is only just & proper that citizens step in to deal with things. With no fear of arrest themselves or prosecution. That would cetainly also sort out once & for all Just Spot Oil protesters blocking roads & disrupting events. I also object to paying for the police & getting nothing for my money.
You forget, the governments of the west have been taken over by saboteurs whose only desire is to destroy the nations they have infiltrated and subverted.
They will absolutely arrest you for stepping in an enforcing the laws that they refuse to enforce.
Nor will they ever allow you to vote your way out of this.
Exactly right, our council tax goes towards paying for the police but they don’t do their job. Cost increases every year and the services get worse !!
You are commenting as if there is real law system in place, there is not! People are feeling and experiencing it across the country for some time! There is no support if you step in! You will be dealt with by faux police!
I bet if this was an alleged hate crime, they'd be there like a shot.
I have come to hate the police. The day will come when the public give them what they deserve.
Old school coppers say don't hate the police hate the government that put them there
I won’t hold my breath
@@barrazoot1777 Asthma?
They get paid for nothing, would love a job there.
yeah British public too scared to do Paris on them
PCSO equates to overpaid security guard. No authority whatsoever. Pointless position.
If someone was "misgendered" or called a name that hurt their feelings the whole station would be there in seconds, but when someone is getting violently attacked or a house gets burgled they ask you to call 111 or report it online. Its ridiculous
Dereliction of duty and deserving the Order of the White Feather.
@eddylloyd7413. What they deserve is a good smearing of hot tar and LOADS of feathers, white or any other colour.
PSOs can detain a person for up to 30 minutes until a police constable arrives.
Yep, but he's cowardly.
Here in Hampshire, The Police refuse to attend an ongoing issue with anti-social behaviour but they are often seen in the garage forecourt literally 200m away drinking coffee!!
Chance would be a fine thing if we ever saw one of these guys to be let down by.
I was attacked whilst at work (dumping collection for a local council)
10+ punches thrown at me, massive lump on my head, concussion and bruising on the face.
I gave them the address the man walked out of, his number plate, the make and model of the vehicle and a description of the identifying “love my children”tattoo down his arm.
Didn’t even bother to send anyone out, had to go to the station to make my statement.
Aaaaaaaand that’s the last I heard of it 👌 this video sums up our entire country’s policing efforts 🤦♂️
Why the fuck have they got a police car
Cops would rather clean up the mess afterwards than put themselves at even the slightest risk by getting involved.
At the very least he could have taken the word of the driver at face value, driven his little Noddy car around the corner and made a judgement. If his powers under the law or his ability as an individual weren't enough to resolve the situation he would be ideally placed to radio in for back up. Unless of course the rest of the force were dancing with obese black women at Carnival or holding onto the leash of their gimp at Pride.
😂👍🏼
Thank you Norman Brenann❤
They have been told to cause as much disruption to the public. A good way to divide people.
Thank you for this vid. That pcso must be fired......there is no excuse for his non action!
Everyone has a power of arrest. While waiting for a police officer
not worth it, you have to know the crime etc
Depends what it the supposed crime is. You are referring to a Citizen's Arrest, which must be an indictable offence. If you happen to accidentally hurt the perp, then unfortunately these days you will be in trouble. That is why lots of people don't get involved, as they end up in bother, even though they thought they were doing the right thing.
@@stuartb4525 As a Met PCSO our "any persons" powers were suspended by a standing order. If we did get physically involved (and we often did) it was under "personal liability" and the Police could disown us for disobeying a standing order.
@@HankD13 This wasn't the MET, This was Surrey Constabulary, each force area have different rules for PCSOs as in powers. Some can carry handcuffs because the Chief says you can. Other Chiefs don't grant that power.
They can still attend a ' crime ' in progress, watch and report if required for real police to attend, this PCSO referred to in the video wasn't even prepared to do that. The least he could of done was a drive past, as most people will assume the police car contained a police person, that might of been the answer.
@@stuartb4525 True - BTP PSCO has cuffs - train carriages. I am talking ten years ago also - things may have changed. Would still like to know Surry policy - and have the addressed the liability issues?
I feel we are no longer policed by consent but are now policed by default. It’s time the police were taken to task and all those corrupt constables fired.
The point is not that they had power of arrest, but they didnt even want to attend, and at least show up.
Disgraceful. Is it any wonder that we are swiftly losing all confidence in the Police
They're all university graduates that have never seen real life....i love a good punch up.
The very least he could have done was to attend and call for back up! What was the point of him driving a response vehicle or even having a job!
If they haven't got the powers of the police then they shouldn't be dressed as an officer...
Disgusting officer, we should stop paying the council tax over this in court
@@rogermelly8260 PCSO’s are fully payed and payed well from Council taxes and are expected to deal with criminal situations I’m not sure what you are relating this incident to from anything from the past???
Norman was absolutely correct most PCSOs would have dealt with this member of the public’s concerns about the ongoing incident the officer in the police car needs retraining or sacking as he is not fit for purpose as an ex PCSO with 14 years service I’m disgusted at how the officer responded to the request of a member of the public and as the saying goes Wouldn’t have happened on my watch
car driver to PCSE " I witnessed someone misgerndering a shop worker and making a hurtful tweet".
PCSO "Hold my beer"......
Goes full Rambo
Shame shame 😳
Incident was a 26 second drive away PCSO should be sacked, no ifs or buts! 😡
the police don't care...why is this such a surprise ?
I've seen it myself
the police seem to be more interested in helping just stop oil or dancing the macarena, than preventing or investigating crime
They don't care. If the driver of that car (cammer) had tinted windows the officer would of fined him but 15 yr old drunk kids assaulting people doesn't make revenue.
My problem isn’t the police refusing to act, it’s citizens refusing to reclaim their rights and take responsibility for what’s happening around them. Get rid of the police. Take back your guns. Take back your streets. You’re paying them to do nothing.
Yes that's going to solve the problem DOH .
we all will follow you
@@MARTIN-bd7gm More so than any of the lefts policies of "destroy your own civilization and genocide yourself because history bad".
yeh more gangs with guns. machine gun shoot outs
PCSO's are not Police. They are civilians under very strict orders not to get physically involved with members of the Public. If they are injured, or injure a member of the public - they are very officially "on their own". Liability issues which scare Police authorities and leave them open to being sued.
When a man is making a fool of himself. Let him continue.
What's he doing in a marked police car.
Mr Brennan knows his law.
Unlike this man .and senior officers.
Yes, I been let down in this way. I had neighbourhood drug dealers selling outside of my property, their kids physically assaulted me, my kids and my dog broke my house windows and damaged my car. The police told me there was nothing they could do without evidence, even though one of the buggers admitted it and said he did it because, and I quote "He is a pedo."
They all like to use that now. It gives them a free for all
The absolute worst of humanity right there.
Surprised he wasn't arrested for something or other.
Edit: Ah, I see it's Sussex police. As a resident of Sussex, that explains a lot!
Should be told his services are no longer required.
So what is that officer paid to do? Arrest someone for reporting outside of a sentencing hearing because clearly they are the real criminal! Our police are politized into policing your thoughts, not protecting your physical safety.
Why are you afraid to state Tommy's name? 😅
PSCOs are not Police. Civilians, with no powers of arrest and under strict order not to get physically involved with members of the public. Eyes and ears. Legal liability issues mean the authorities are scared of getting sued if it went wrong. If a PCOS does get involved, it would be their own "personal liability" (unlike Police) and it would be against orders and the Police can then disown them to avoid liability - no training or equipment(ie cuffs) provided to PSCO that Police get.
@@Paul-pf6rm Because it's not just Tommy, it'll be all of us.
I am a joiner,good job I’m not terrified of wood and nails 😂😂😂
Seems like a lot of crimes are committed at the wild bean cafe
Do you know he's been a Police officer for 33 years. Never heard him mention that before.😮
He's not a police officer. He's a volunteer who needs sacking
If you haven't realised since PCSOs aren't volunteers, unfortunately these useless officers are salaried, albeit at only 60% of that of a full scale PC pay. Special constables are the volunteers and they actually have full police powers.
I once pulled a suicide victim out of a garage filled with car fumes, lifted him over his car and placed him on the grassed area by the garages to try CPR but I could tell he had passed away, went to my mother's and phone for the police and ambulance on return to the scene the services were there so I asked the police officer if they wanted a statement as I had moved the body and the reply was " don't bother, it'll be alright".
Move along sir, there's nothing to see here, nowt changes
We Needed police and got CCTV footage. They came a week later and told us that they couldn’t take the footage we had to do it online LOL
Yes i was beat up by 3 women and they wasn't even arrested, shocking 🤯
The fact is PCSO's are not Police officer's. Why forces are allowing PCSO's to drive Police cars I'll never understand. PCSO's were designed to cover jobs that did not need a warranted officer, ie carrying out crime scene security, giving crime prevention advice in neighbourhoods, providing a visible presence outside a school. They do have a power to detain, also numerous other powers but PCSO's are generally lazy. I have experience of PCSO's in West Midlands Police who have refused to provide a statement for a crime they've witnessed, they have refused to walk on patrol to a point it was Police officers walking and the PCSO's driving around in the marked police cars. WMP now place PCSO's in domestic violence teams, back office jobs etc etc all of which is contrary to their original deployment plan under David Blunkett the then Home Secretary.
I am glad this incident has come to light, but this is happening across the country. PCSO's are just wanna be cops, who dont want any responsibility or accountability.
Ditto for West Mercia and Warwickshire, the worrying thing is that after all these years they general public still often think they are talking to a police officer .
They have been given responsibilty but no power. Not their fault.
@@AthenaLolita2no, please look at all the powers they do have, they can detain people, issue fixed penalty notices for numerous offences, deal with kids smoking under age, drinkers on the streets, off license selling drink to drunk people. They have powers, they just don't use them, which comes down to laziness or cowardice as this member of the public described.
@@AthenaLolita2so the fact this particular PCSO is hiding in a marked police vehicle proves the point. Perhaps if he actually got out of the car and walked around the shopping area he might have prevented this incident actually happening in the first instance.
I'm guessing you are one of these PCSO's that is why you are so defensive and offended.
Just remember, facts don't care about your feelings.
@@AthenaLolita2 But they are shitty people to start with, wanting to play power piggie, so there is that, which is their fault.
It didn't involve hurty words towards the protected groups, or legally photographing a station... so not that serious an incident, presumably.
A PCSO can use reasonable force to arrest or detain a suspected offender. PCSOs in theory can all use handcuffs to detain using their own detention powers or arrest using 'any person' powers when on duty
It depends entirely on which Police Service the PCSO serves in. The former police officer was not entirely accurate in his statement. What powers a PCSO has and what they can and can't do varies significantly across the various Police Services of the UK. PCSOs serving in Sussex Police DO NOT have any arrest powers. They DO NOT carry handcuffs, and they DO NOT carry a baton or CS Spray. They only have the power and ability to politely/nicely detain someone for a maximum of 30 minutes while they wait for a Police Officer to attend.
As a Met PCSO we had a standing order: "Under NO circumstances must a PSCO become physically involved with members of the public, even to come to the aid of Police Officer" - it was a liability issues - and the Met was scared of getting sued. If we were injured, or injured someone, the lack of training or PPE equipment (NO CUFFS) it would be under "personal liability" and leave the Met open to being sued. As a PSCO you knew if any thing went wrong, you would be "out on your own" and had disobeyed a very clear and direct standing order.
@@HankD13So, if someone's life was being threatened and a PCSO was there they would just stand by and watch someone being harmed or murdered?
How noble.
@@andywilliams7323 How does the policy of Sussex Police override national law? Genuine question, I'm struggling to understand the situation.
@@trolleriffic Well, because the legislation (law) of the Policing and Crime Act 2017 mandates that Chief Police Officers (the most senior Police Officer in a Police Service) must decide which powers they wish to give to their PCSOs from the list of available powers outlined in the Act. Such as the Power of Arrest, the Power of Stop and Search, etc. As the decision on which powers PCSOs can have lies entirely with the Chief Police Officers of each Police Service. The individual Cheif Police Officers in the various Police Services make different decisions regarding what powers their PCSOs can have. Hence why what powers PCSOs have varies considerably across the various Police services of the UK.
Too busy asisting bailiffs evicting family's to deal with minor crimes such as drunken disorder and assault.
They should have a monthly bingo game for all the crime reference numbers they give out. At least they'll be useful then
I always wanted to visit England, But not now, Its no place for a Normal person.
Messed up situation.
The crazy thing is if someone had called another person a name on twitter… that officer would have on his way blue lights the lot.. This country is finished and I’m scared for my kids and grandchildren
Sad to say it but your right :( My kids are teens up to two adults & I have 2 Granbabies & I too fear just as you do. I am seriously thinking of emergrating at the grand old age of nearly 60, I shouldn't have to be thinking of fleeing my homeland & starting again at my age or uprooting my younger kiddos & trying to persuade my 2 adult kids to leave with their families & come with us but I truly fear for us all here in the UK.
Jobs are given to people based on who they know. Not what they know. As long as society continues down This path don’t expect things to go good for you. Nepotism is dangerous
I’ve witnessed the Same, Weak Scared Police being abused by youths in Birmingham in a shopping centre full of Shoppers then the Police driving off whist being insulted, I did complain stating if the Police are seen to be scared and run away from these thugs what are the Citizens supposed to think 😞
My experience with PCSO's is they are rarely of the Character where they can cope with inflamed situations. the community would be better served if the pcso fund was funnelled into the police force Allowing more fully operational officers. it is also about time that police officers were allowed to do their Jobs without their hands being tied to politically correct woke quotas and imagined crimes. and when they do their jobs they must be backed up by a strong legal system, when governments can't get the basics right everything else collapses around it.
I've had intruders in my building for 2 hours and the police have kept me on the phone asking questions rather than send someone round. Have they done a? It doesnt matter they have broken in and entered illegally. Ah but you see if they havent done a (yet) then that just counts as x and we dont send officers out for x.
Give the plod some credit, he/she/it (you never know nowadays) was probably researching a facebook post that had hurty words in it!
They are a complete waste of tax payers money, It would be better spent on more real officers rather than these plastic clones!
like the PCSO said its not his job . each police constabulary has its own policies and procedures in England. They come out in force for auditors and people filming in public if anyones seen auditing videos
If it is "not his job" then why is he getting paid?
Perhaps if the person had reported that somebody had said something transphobic the PCSO would have intervened, and probably called for support in force like they for gor "auditors"
they do have common law powers to make a citizen's arrest for anything other than a breach of the peace.
I wish I could get paid for sitting in my car and not doing my job.
Defunding the police sounded ridiculous 3 years ago now it doesn't.
Had my house bricked 3 weeks in a row, told it wasn't a crime and been ignored since
AND THEY WONDER WHY THE PUBLIC TAKE MATTERS IN THERE OWN HANDS.
What amazes me is that you ever thought the police did give a 💩.
You got it wrong. You should have told him there is a man with a camera filming the floor. You would have had 10 coppers there in under 30 seconds serving a section 43.
I live in Sussex and this is the norm is all to much paperwork
PCSO should be dismissed immediately. They are clearly not capable.
I've had the opposite problem in the past. Driving in my car (at the speed limit) I turned into a road and was confronted with another unmarked car travelling in the same direction but crawling along at walking speed and veering into the kerbside and then out into the middle of the lane several times, when it was safe to do so I overtook the vehicle only to immediately be pursued (at the speed limit) by the vehicle flashing its main beams repeatedly at me and twice beeping its horn.
I carried on to my house which was a few hundred yards away and as I pulled up to reverse into my drive was stopped from doing so by this idiot in the other car pulling up right behind me. I got out to ask him to move from my driveway and was confronted by what I can only describe as a power crazed inadequate in an ill-fitting PCSO outfit complete with paramilitary stab jacket that looked as if he'd borrowed it off his dad. He and his disinterested "oppo" who spent the next 10 minutes messing with his mobile phone (probably playing "Crossy road") attempted to intimidate me for having safely overtaken him. Needless to say 10 minutes later he drove off sheepishly after not having received the trembling submission he'd expected, instead having been given the "Hairdrier treatment". Where do they get these inadequates from?
And on that day, the PCSO's micro-penis grew a whole millimetre!
It’s a possible option that this PCSO’s bank account should get closed down by his bank as he’s clearly picking up a annual salary under the false pretence he’s actually earned it by an honest intent !
The PCSO in question should be sacked as an example to the rest of them and to restore public confidence.
PCS officers should be fired.