@@reishiki8682 Her class is literally the least of her problems, her not having access to Oberon in Turn 3 and her losing her niche of BG damage to carry her dps without him when you use Event CEs is the most important one
@@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686You can go double Oberon with black grail the dmg is lower on the first waves but on 3 is giant nuke, i haver np 5 tho 💀 and the highest dmg ive done is 2 mil with two neutral dmg and one berserk on enemy team the problem is You can't stack Oberon np dmg from 3rd skill
Everyone always forgets my man Edison in this equation. He fulfills Summer Ibuki's roll with a 1-turn skill cooldown (which is all Arcueid's S2 needs in a double Koyan setup) and an NP Strength buff skill for added damage. Likely not to the effect that Summer Ibuki brings but he is not as expensive of an option if you have him.
I don't have Edison, but I do have Izumo. She may not be able to buff Arc with additional steroids, but with maxed A2 she can add her own NP to the Wave 3 damage.
Here's the best way to use arc with summer ibuki. Replace vitch with castoria. Replace the other vitch with the other castoria. And replace arc with summer ibuki. Replace summer ibuki with Oberon. Boom the best buster team around.
Shot in the dark with a heavy amount of copium, but i do hope they buff her. Say shorten her S2 cooldown or make the Battery on S3 also applies to herself. Feels weird that someone with her caliber can't use the best set up for Buster
I agree. Of all 5 stars in the game right now, she’s close to the top that needs a buff the most, and those solutions, either shortening S2 cooldown or making the S3 charge apply to herself too is probably the best ones for her right now. Makes you wonder what the devs were thinking not making her S3 apply to herself from the get-go.
Yeah, no, 100% NP charge for that CD was fair.. and did we really have to rate every servant based of how well are they in Farming? I mean, we can adjust her NP to be more than QAB buff attack..
Finotaisen outright said that if you’re farming with Arc, you better go the distance cause otherwise her damage is poor. And if you’re saving for Summer, probably best to just simply get NP1 and just wait for Summer cause Summer Skadi/Proto Merlin are coming.
@@rdwn1999i mean people still joke about Quick being bad so people probably dismiss Skadi and would pull for Femlin even with regular Merlin or them thinking she's worst
I luckily got her to NP4 thanks to ascension reward so gonna rely on her for a while since her neutral damage deal more than my Morgan normal damage right now
You could also use Tamamo no Mae, with a 70% np battery ce, on wave 2 to reduce the cd on Arc second skill. However, using summer Ibuki probably yields higher overall damage.
they don't need to lower her cooldown, just make her s3 spread charge work on herself as well and she would work with standard double koyan+oberon team
@@reishiki8682 She is already top of Buster farmers. Making her Double Koyan+Oberon compatible would shoot her through the roof. And make her reign even more in multicore.
Well, I tried to 3T farming with my Arc so I can level up her bond faster. The first thing that came to my mind was CD reduction, so I can use her battery on turn 3 too. I tried double Koyan + Tamamo, it worked. But Tamamo need a starting NP CE, which is not that great for event or bond farming. And so... a mad idea suddenly came into me... Behold, my own insane(?) Arc 3T farming: double Koyan + Maid Alter strat! Maid Alter has a targetable CD reduction skill! Looks stupid, but it works! And since my Arc is somehow NP2, her damage output is not that bad with this setup.
Double Oberon is unreliable imo due to how difficult/time-consuming it can be to find a support with Teatime. So her best BG comp for dmg I'd say is with SIbuki (Eidson for now), although Atlas is best for clear times but may require higher NP levels and/or grails due to lacking a dmg buff. A comp I've personally been experimenting with that utilizes Cranking over BG however is Bride (or Dark Koyan, but former is better) + Koyan + Oberon. Simply unload all of Brides' buffs turn 1 and then switch her out for Koyan and go from there. Pretty decent and fun alternative if I do say so myself
Thanks for the video! Right now I'm using her with Double Koyan and Atlas, but I can probably make a variant of formation 1 with Edison instead of Ibuki: it will be lower on damage without her buffs, but being able to use the Plugsuit is already a bonus on its own. I just need to finish bonding some new Servants first, otherwise I won't have the space.
??? Where the hell did this "mooncancer low damage mod" thing came from? This is the 3rd time I saw it in comments from this vid and it's literally false.
I belive you could also do Arc, koyan, crane, koyan, edson/summer ibuki. with plug-suit wave 1 Arc 1st and 2nd skill, koyan 2nd (crane will need the stars) + 3rd + all crane skills Np crane, np arc wave 2 Arc 3rd (if necessary), swaped koyan 1st and 3rd skill, koyan 1st skill. wave 3 plugsuit your last suppor, and buff arc Note: I belive if you give crane 100% charge you can swap her back and use her np 2 times. I can't test the team cause i don't have edson.
For Double Oberon, unless fighting Man attribute enemies, would it not make more sense to use Waver, Reines, or even Castoria instead of Koyanskaya? Then they could NP to have more Wave 3 (or, in the case of Castoria, Wave 2 & 3) damage. Wave 1 damage would suffer though.
Hello, i just got her and just barely played the game is there any recomendation what ce should i take for her? I have konyan and caster only for supports havent claim my free 5 stars tho
If you have Black Grail then use that. Otherwise any pure damage CE that isn't mixed stats (only gives attack bonus in stats ) will do. Something like Heaven's Feel, Hero Elly's Adventure, Ascension of Corrupting Mud that we're going to get somewhat soon. She doesn't really care about charge, but First Day Of Filming or Aerial Drive will also do, if you don't have anything better. Without Oberon you're locked into using Atlas Uniform or Plugsuit with Ibuki (if you get her)/Edison for now, which comes with some damage losses, so you really need a good CE and every other advantage you can get. Atlas is a major damage loss even compared to Edison.
Well, I don't really mind if she is a bit tricky to use for 3T stuff. I mostly will only use her to fight Avenger bosses I guess. I have Morgan for 3T-ing stuff. All I care is I finally have SSR for Mooncancer now. So now I have at least 1 SSR for every classes. The cost? Now my SQ count is down from 700+ to 230... I believe that it's enough for Summer Skadi (and maybe Proto Merlin)...
@@reishiki8682Well, night has arrived and the moon corrupted my mind to gacha more despite how close Summer event is. The urge was so abnormally strong. Now my Arc is NP2, just from 14 pulls lol. Edit: Also, I just want to say that personally, Kiara is one of my most disliked Servant in the game. I just don't like any of her design.
Hey does anyone know how to buy quartz in jp for ios? My friend is really struggling with it and im not sure how to help. I use android so i dont have a problem but im not sure what to do.
I got her jn NP2 due to wanying Xu Fu😂 now I'm being tempted to pull more cuz she NEEDS higher levels to be able to farm higher content. Why is she the first NP2 5* I pulled dammit
@@har8742 level 100 carries hard, especially if you invest Fous the primary issue that comes with using Arc is that her CD being 1 off means you can't Run Oberon for DPS in wave 3 like in typical Buster farming comps. The meme about Arc is that her best support to circumvent this is Summer Ibuki who provides Buffs and a CD, allowing her to get damage for if her Black Grail isn't enough and If you have Summer Ibuki even ag NP1 your gonna be questioning why your not just running Arts If you REALLY wanna farm using Arc theres alot of ways around it, Tamamo, MC, Etc etc but thats where her issue of DPS becomes a problem since wave 3 tends to have high HP enemies. Though Personally she's perfectly fine up to I wanna say..... Most 90+ nodes? Which are perfectly fine since 90++ is more so a test of your overall roster with unique waves(1million hp Enkidu is the first one we get for example on a 1-1-1 node) . Not being able to run 90++ is perfectly fine since even Summer Ibuki at high NP levels struggle with alot of them and personally just being able to farm 90+ is enough cuz its basically the usual for lmthe past years
@@har8742 NP2 100 will be perfectly good for 90% of content. Use Black Grail, Koyan, 2 Oberon setup for single core or use her in multi core setups where she shines. If you don't have Black Grail it will be harder, try best damage CE you have. It might be harder to use her in 90++, but most characters struggle there without super overloaded copy, event bonus or trait damage (and her trait damage is very good, so she can still be used sometimes). And let's be honest: most of the time you don't even need to do 90++, just go with fast 90+.
@@kr4547 I mean, that is better-than-average results. 300-400 is the low-ball average range for each SSR. If you want np2, you are usually looking at ~700 quartz.
@@GS_CCCBecause i can and want to collect? You should really touch grass since you're too terminally online and not grasp that "people play casually".
Nah, that's an FGO player that actually makes the farming part fun. Not the be-all end-all metasheep that think Merlin is ass now because Merlin but booba is "better" when she's just a sidegrade.
? The meta isn't double Castoria in most cases, most mat nodes you can 6-slot(frontlone only) with other comps, you don't even need to use 2 supports, and by having better bond efficiency its superior to a comp like double castoria with np5 summer ibuki. JP also added ST nodes with ordeal call adding another type of meta as well. People just hate the word farm and refuse to interact with it. The weakest comp that uses the servants you want to get bond points is the most efficient for the node. You would only think that its braindead if you don't interact with this part of the game.
I'm lying. There are actually only 2 ways.
Please don't use the 3rd and 4th setup.
But hey
Its work 😂
How bout we do ~anyway~
:))
Nah, I will use Double Aoko, Thanks xNaya. :D
After watching the 3rd setup, I have become big brain, processor of meta
the hardest part of double Oberon farming is finding support Oberon with Tea Time.
wanna add me? i have oberon with mlb teatime, my code is 506,508,775
Its really easy.
Just delete all the filler friends ans only have 2/3 added.
Only add more during events or if they also have the sup list you want.
I have like 8 💀 what i don't have is friends with bella lisa so i just farm qp with double koyan
The easiest way would be through Koyan, right?!
@@holiveira130 yeah Oberon gives You more dmg on last waves but less on 1-2 and koyan gives You more dmg on Wave 1-2 but less on 3
after Np3-ing Arcueid and lv100-ing Black Grail, my farming has turned to a new era
Only to realize that her class has a lower damage mod than others.
@@reishiki8682 Waifu over meta. Love over time efficiency
@@reishiki8682 Moon Cancer damage multiplier is normal 1.0. They are not scuffed like Caster or Assassin
@@reishiki8682 Her class is literally the least of her problems, her not having access to Oberon in Turn 3 and her losing her niche of BG damage to carry her dps without him when you use Event CEs is the most important one
@@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686You can go double Oberon with black grail the dmg is lower on the first waves but on 3 is giant nuke, i haver np 5 tho 💀 and the highest dmg ive done is 2 mil with two neutral dmg and one berserk on enemy team the problem is You can't stack Oberon np dmg from 3rd skill
Everyone always forgets my man Edison in this equation. He fulfills Summer Ibuki's roll with a 1-turn skill cooldown (which is all Arcueid's S2 needs in a double Koyan setup) and an NP Strength buff skill for added damage. Likely not to the effect that Summer Ibuki brings but he is not as expensive of an option if you have him.
I don't have Edison, but I do have Izumo. She may not be able to buff Arc with additional steroids, but with maxed A2 she can add her own NP to the Wave 3 damage.
So just MC with cd skill is cheapest way
Just dmg output is low
Step 1 seems to be: Always have Koyanskaya of Light lol
Here's the best way to use arc with summer ibuki.
Replace vitch with castoria. Replace the other vitch with the other castoria. And replace arc with summer ibuki. Replace summer ibuki with Oberon. Boom the best buster team around.
Seems like a broken arcuied comp. Will try that bro👍
LEMME JUST GET MY FREE SUMMER IBUKI IN 1 MULTI!! Oh w8, it's not out yet.
It's funny when summer ibuki is actually a viable support even if the servant isn't a summer version
Aoko the most expensive 🔋 suppliers 8:12
me just chilling with np5 arcueid & morgan
Double Oberon is cracked
Shot in the dark with a heavy amount of copium, but i do hope they buff her. Say shorten her S2 cooldown or make the Battery on S3 also applies to herself. Feels weird that someone with her caliber can't use the best set up for Buster
I agree. Of all 5 stars in the game right now, she’s close to the top that needs a buff the most, and those solutions, either shortening S2 cooldown or making the S3 charge apply to herself too is probably the best ones for her right now. Makes you wonder what the devs were thinking not making her S3 apply to herself from the get-go.
She actually can do 2 Koyanskaya + Oberon with the help of SChloe as long as there are 3 enemies in W1
Farming pilled are we?
Yeah, no, 100% NP charge for that CD was fair.. and did we really have to rate every servant based of how well are they in Farming? I mean, we can adjust her NP to be more than QAB buff attack..
np buff would also be really nice...
I am noticing that step one appears to be getting NP4 ... with step two being grail to 100.
Finotaisen outright said that if you’re farming with Arc, you better go the distance cause otherwise her damage is poor. And if you’re saving for Summer, probably best to just simply get NP1 and just wait for Summer cause Summer Skadi/Proto Merlin are coming.
@@Eyeshield11721 You don't really need Proto Merlin for most contents tbh
@@rdwn1999she's decent in boss fights but most content is farming and you don't really need her there.
@@rdwn1999i mean people still joke about Quick being bad so people probably dismiss Skadi and would pull for Femlin even with regular Merlin or them thinking she's worst
@@rdwn1999 Thank you for stating this. I rarely ever see Proto Merlin ever used unless it's a challenge quest.
"Normie" farming with BG Arcueid: proceeds to Sibuki to cd reduction.
Yeah. Normie.
😂😂 that thumbnail
Chloe and the dark Mafia magical girls including a Witch and a Vampire 😂😂
Chloe is the final boss of primsa Illya all along.
I luckily got her to NP4 thanks to ascension reward so gonna rely on her for a while since her neutral damage deal more than my Morgan normal damage right now
You could also use Tamamo no Mae, with a 70% np battery ce, on wave 2 to reduce the cd on Arc second skill. However, using summer Ibuki probably yields higher overall damage.
Definitely Double Oberon, honestly it’s I’m okay if they never lower her cooldowns but it would be nice if she had an NP Buff.
they don't need to lower her cooldown, just make her s3 spread charge work on herself as well and she would work with standard double koyan+oberon team
@@Zeon081...so basically make her the same as the other Buster farmers but worse because her class SUCKS.
@@reishiki8682 She is already top of Buster farmers. Making her Double Koyan+Oberon compatible would shoot her through the roof. And make her reign even more in multicore.
Well, I tried to 3T farming with my Arc so I can level up her bond faster. The first thing that came to my mind was CD reduction, so I can use her battery on turn 3 too. I tried double Koyan + Tamamo, it worked. But Tamamo need a starting NP CE, which is not that great for event or bond farming. And so... a mad idea suddenly came into me... Behold, my own insane(?) Arc 3T farming: double Koyan + Maid Alter strat! Maid Alter has a targetable CD reduction skill! Looks stupid, but it works! And since my Arc is somehow NP2, her damage output is not that bad with this setup.
Just use the Atlas MC then lol.
@@justawanderingoldman7699 Edison is just better though lol
@@HopeforDespairSIbuki is better.
@@cosmicaler as you comment a week after shes out if you can see I made the comment 2 weeks ago
If Arcuid was a better class like a foreigner or an avenger I don’t think people would be complaining
Nah, people are complaining mostly because they don't understand multicore or double Oberon setup options.
Double Oberon is unreliable imo due to how difficult/time-consuming it can be to find a support with Teatime. So her best BG comp for dmg I'd say is with SIbuki (Eidson for now), although Atlas is best for clear times but may require higher NP levels and/or grails due to lacking a dmg buff. A comp I've personally been experimenting with that utilizes Cranking over BG however is Bride (or Dark Koyan, but former is better) + Koyan + Oberon. Simply unload all of Brides' buffs turn 1 and then switch her out for Koyan and go from there. Pretty decent and fun alternative if I do say so myself
How supposedly? I always have like 3 Oberon with Teatime to choose from.
It’s just way less common in general even outside your FL since it’s mostly Castoria or Koyan Light that has the farm CEs.
Thanks for the video! Right now I'm using her with Double Koyan and Atlas, but I can probably make a variant of formation 1 with Edison instead of Ibuki: it will be lower on damage without her buffs, but being able to use the Plugsuit is already a bonus on its own. I just need to finish bonding some new Servants first, otherwise I won't have the space.
Used 24 tickets and 200 sqs. Got her np2 and xufu np5. Satisfied with what i got. Now I'll save for summer 7
I got her in 180 sq and 10 tickets but blowed remaining236 sq for kiara and got nothing 😢. Okay mlb honey lake.
Or u can go with normal double Koyan and Oberon, run a 50% ce. Not the best combo but it works 🤷
She needs an NP Interlude with maybe a 20% NP DMG Up or something for 3T. Mooncancers suffer so bad with their low damage mods.
???
Where the hell did this "mooncancer low damage mod" thing came from?
This is the 3rd time I saw it in comments from this vid and it's literally false.
Man they really to buff Shiki, looking at the other Type-Moon heroines, she is really behind a lot.
Comes with the territory of being a year 1 Servant.
I am not really a fan of summer Ibuki, but gonna try and pull her anyway for stat # 1. Anything for my Arcueid!
I hope Arcueid will rerun on JP version... damn it
Can I use Edison to lower the cooldown too for the first?
Yes
For the first setup, wouldn't it be easier just to bring the Atlas MC? Instead of plug with Ibuki/Edison
Moen Drives
I belive you could also do
Arc, koyan, crane, koyan, edson/summer ibuki.
with plug-suit
wave 1
Arc 1st and 2nd skill, koyan 2nd (crane will need the stars) + 3rd + all crane skills
Np crane, np arc
wave 2
Arc 3rd (if necessary), swaped koyan 1st and 3rd skill, koyan 1st skill.
wave 3
plugsuit your last suppor, and buff arc
Note: I belive if you give crane 100% charge you can swap her back and use her np 2 times. I can't test the team cause i don't have edson.
For Double Oberon, unless fighting Man attribute enemies, would it not make more sense to use Waver, Reines, or even Castoria instead of Koyanskaya? Then they could NP to have more Wave 3 (or, in the case of Castoria, Wave 2 & 3) damage. Wave 1 damage would suffer though.
Hello, i just got her and just barely played the game is there any recomendation what ce should i take for her? I have konyan and caster only for supports havent claim my free 5 stars tho
If you have Black Grail then use that. Otherwise any pure damage CE that isn't mixed stats (only gives attack bonus in stats ) will do. Something like Heaven's Feel, Hero Elly's Adventure, Ascension of Corrupting Mud that we're going to get somewhat soon. She doesn't really care about charge, but First Day Of Filming or Aerial Drive will also do, if you don't have anything better. Without Oberon you're locked into using Atlas Uniform or Plugsuit with Ibuki (if you get her)/Edison for now, which comes with some damage losses, so you really need a good CE and every other advantage you can get. Atlas is a major damage loss even compared to Edison.
Does NP2 Arcueid will be sufficient for general farming ?
Sama dapet np2 lvl 100, farming biasa udah lebih dari cukup, tapi damage agak kurang
>np4
Well, I don't really mind if she is a bit tricky to use for 3T stuff. I mostly will only use her to fight Avenger bosses I guess. I have Morgan for 3T-ing stuff. All I care is I finally have SSR for Mooncancer now. So now I have at least 1 SSR for every classes. The cost? Now my SQ count is down from 700+ to 230... I believe that it's enough for Summer Skadi (and maybe Proto Merlin)...
You could've settled for Summer Kiara and she'd work at just NP1, now you have an anemic Moon Cancer that hits less than a Caster lol.
@@reishiki8682But I actually read TM stuff so I don’t care lol
@@reishiki8682 When do you already have a beserker that does things better than other classes? I only give rolls for waifu
@@reishiki8682Well, night has arrived and the moon corrupted my mind to gacha more despite how close Summer event is. The urge was so abnormally strong. Now my Arc is NP2, just from 14 pulls lol.
Edit:
Also, I just want to say that personally, Kiara is one of my most disliked Servant in the game. I just don't like any of her design.
@@raeosBasically me with my NP3 Lv120 Morgan + double Koyan and Oberon lol
what is best, summer ibuki np1 or arcueid np3?
Summer ibuki np3 and arc np1
But tbh i have np2 arc and np1 sibuki
Got only NP1. I currently don't have any intention to do more so tell me how does she do
At NP1?
Not great…
@@r.k845is she good at np2?
It's wet noodle dmg at np1 if you grail her and stuff maybe you can farm 90 nodes but 90++ no way oh and you need koyan and Oberon and black grail
@@pairedformula8920 No one will farm 90++ on NP1 solo.
Xu Fu setups when?
Me ? Double Morgan and AA ( all NP5+ black grail). I'm lazy
Will NP3 be enough damage wise?
Yes, it should be enough.
*mlb black grail
Is NP2 good
KitaKITA!!!
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Hey does anyone know how to buy quartz in jp for ios? My friend is really struggling with it and im not sure how to help. I use android so i dont have a problem but im not sure what to do.
I got her jn NP2 due to wanying Xu Fu😂 now I'm being tempted to pull more cuz she NEEDS higher levels to be able to farm higher content.
Why is she the first NP2 5* I pulled dammit
Sorry to bother you, farming with arc NP lvl 2 and grailed until lvl 100 is enough?
@@har8742 level 100 carries hard, especially if you invest Fous the primary issue that comes with using Arc is that her CD being 1 off means you can't Run Oberon for DPS in wave 3 like in typical Buster farming comps.
The meme about Arc is that her best support to circumvent this is Summer Ibuki who provides Buffs and a CD, allowing her to get damage for if her Black Grail isn't enough and If you have Summer Ibuki even ag NP1 your gonna be questioning why your not just running Arts
If you REALLY wanna farm using Arc theres alot of ways around it, Tamamo, MC, Etc etc but thats where her issue of DPS becomes a problem since wave 3 tends to have high HP enemies.
Though Personally she's perfectly fine up to I wanna say..... Most 90+ nodes? Which are perfectly fine since 90++ is more so a test of your overall roster with unique waves(1million hp Enkidu is the first one we get for example on a 1-1-1 node) .
Not being able to run 90++ is perfectly fine since even Summer Ibuki at high NP levels struggle with alot of them and personally just being able to farm 90+ is enough cuz its basically the usual for lmthe past years
I didn't expect you to give such a long answer, and now I feel bad about it. So sorry and thank you
@@har8742 NP2 100 will be perfectly good for 90% of content. Use Black Grail, Koyan, 2 Oberon setup for single core or use her in multi core setups where she shines. If you don't have Black Grail it will be harder, try best damage CE you have.
It might be harder to use her in 90++, but most characters struggle there without super overloaded copy, event bonus or trait damage (and her trait damage is very good, so she can still be used sometimes). And let's be honest: most of the time you don't even need to do 90++, just go with fast 90+.
Kinda feel bad for pulling now. Cos I could only manage to get np1 and most of her use cases are np2 and above
Should have just saved
How many tiks and sq did it take?
I for one am skipping because i'm already hyper invested in my NP2 Morgan (planning for NP5, 120)
@@gachagamer536 around 210 or 240. Can't remember. Also used 10 tics
@@kr4547 good luck on the summer rolls or whatever else you want 👍
@@gachagamer536 thanks. You too
@@kr4547 I mean, that is better-than-average results. 300-400 is the low-ball average range for each SSR. If you want np2, you are usually looking at ~700 quartz.
Why does tea time do?
Gives you more bond xp
NP2 and didn't even actually want her. Well, at least she isn't an anemic NP1 copy that's just warming the bench.
Play tsukihime and u will love her. If that not enough, her story in FGO will, I know my Goat is cooking another LB6
@@reiiz9942No i mean i already know her, it's mostly gameplay-sided, since Moon Cancers aren't exactly top of the line when it comes to damage.
Why did you summon for her then?
@@GS_CCCBecause i can and want to collect? You should really touch grass since you're too terminally online and not grasp that "people play casually".
@@reishiki8682 ??????
you said you didn't want her you lunatic.
read the first sentence of the original comment
lvl 4 np, zzzz
Please tell me is Np3 enough for future 90++ nodes ??
Fgo players when farming isnt as braindead .
Nah, that's an FGO player that actually makes the farming part fun. Not the be-all end-all metasheep that think Merlin is ass now because Merlin but booba is "better" when she's just a sidegrade.
?
The meta isn't double Castoria in most cases, most mat nodes you can 6-slot(frontlone only) with other comps, you don't even need to use 2 supports, and by having better bond efficiency its superior to a comp like double castoria with np5 summer ibuki.
JP also added ST nodes with ordeal call adding another type of meta as well.
People just hate the word farm and refuse to interact with it.
The weakest comp that uses the servants you want to get bond points is the most efficient for the node.
You would only think that its braindead if you don't interact with this part of the game.
Waste of good 12 tickests imo.
Double aoko is pretty cool