I've made stuff from pallets for years and as a point I sent samples from 25 different pallets for testing including shavings from end grain, inside a board, whole boards, drilled out and sent in the saw dust from that drilling and absolutely none of it showed any trace of mb or any harmful substances. So thank you for this! Edit, they were all stamped with mb
I was just about to say "you wouldn't really know unless you tested it". I mean, some guy from the MB industry tells us all "it's fine, don't worry", yeah come on. Great that you tested for MB directly, that gives me some confidence. How much did it cost to get the tests done?
@@AshleyMillsTube I don't really remember, it wasn't as much as shipping cost though. But I shipped a lot of material lol this was probably 8-10 years ago. I want to say it was around 400 total. That was to ship material and for the testing too. Been thinking about doing it again but much smaller pieces just to make sure it wasn't a fluke
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 that's cool, thanks for the response. 400 total! jesus, you really went for it lol Would be great to do it again and make a video about the results. I've never worked with pallets but will at some point. I'll investigate here in the UK where testing can be done.
@@dainermade I can tell you, having worked in the petro-chemical and the chemical industry in general, if anything even remotely harmful gets spilt on a palette, that palette is then sent off to what they call "deep burial" at considerable expense, in toxic waste management dumps. The really nasty stuff is put deep underground, entombed in concrete. At least that's what the big boys do. Generally, that's what everyone does. When I was much younger, one of my first jobs before I left school (some 3 decades ago) was to convert an old 40ft container into a kiln. I got to play with some electronics on an actual project for the first time, however the painting the roof and sides with black jack wasn't much fun, nor was the smell of whatever it was that I had to gerni out of the floor. I assumed at the time it was just the remnant smell of the MB. Though having watched this, not so sure about that anymore. When I left school, my first real job was working for the same people in a timber shed. There was a big ass cyclone for dust extraction but this was back in the 90's when PPE wasn't even an acronym. At any rate, I've worked in all sorts of industries, exposed to all manner of VOC's, particulates and chemicals. I'm still here. I've even got two good eyes and ten fingers left! God knows how given all the pedestal and hand grinders I've used in my time without safety glasses, a face shield and the medics on standby. 😉
Well Done Mate!, I have over 30 years in the trade, and this is the best common sense explanation I have ever come upon, there is so much B*****ks talked by so many people trying to sound clever, it's nice to hear commonsense, if you are a woodworker you are used to managing risks, it's how you stay fit and healthy, I have no breathing problems, and I worked with MDF for years, always with good extraction, dust control and a Mask when necessary, I wouldn't have it any other way, also always wore eye and ear protection, for a risk there is a solution, and anyone who doesn't get that does not belong in a workshop or on site!, also if fumigants did not dissipate, you would need PPE just to handle palletised goods, and foodstuffs could not even be shipped on them, it's not a Coating, it a Gas folks, and you and Andy made the point perfectly , Beaut Job Mate ! Julie from UK
I can´t read 307 comments so please excuse me if this has already been said. CN is code for China. CA is Canada. Great video. First time viewer. I´m making a video about making compost with a pallet. Your video was very helpful. Thanks. And oh yes... I´m Canadian.
Mark, you're a bloody champion mate! I only came across your clips by accident but have now subscribed to watch the progression and evolution of' Dainer Made'. Your sense of humour and the way you present a project is truly inspiring. Thumbs up from 'The Birches Woodworking', Sandfly Tassie.
I use pallet wood often in projects. I always pressure wash them before I break them down. I do this mostly for a basic clean up and to get any fine particles from whatever was sitting on them during shipping. It also cleans up the wood from any spillage etc. that may stain the wood.
Mate. I’m about to see someone to be so informative and helpful. You covered everything so far. From where to get it , what to get, how to get it . How to take it a part, how to handle it and reassemble it in something spectacular. Don’t forget about last videos saying also what to do that sell’s easily and get yourself on the game. Please never stop doing what you do best that is inspiring people like me. I need it. Lol. Let the hater’s find something better to do Cheers mate and thank you for your videos
I had concluded the same thing about five years ago when I first started pallet wood working as a hobby. It’s good to hear that the information I previously learned is still valid and confirmed by a professional
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A nice lecture on pallets. And facts. I still love recycling. Keep following the rules. Thanks dude. All the best.
Love the video, so much good information and what a plot twist! I had no idea that's how it's done. Agree on the fine dust matter, still needs to hook up my bigger machines to a system.
As someone trying to start my own business I couldn't be happier with this information. It proves that just because something started out for one purpose doesn't mean it can't be repurposed for something else. If someone is willing to do the work. For the sake of convenience many have become wasteful. Thanks again for the information. 🙂👍
The video we needed! Seen a bunch of these, as most woodworkers using pallets have to keep explaining to the haters that the materials are checked, modified and sealed by the time it gets to the final product! Great explanation as always! ☺️
I think this is the best video I have watched on any subject on RUclips. Punchy presentation with accurate facts, pulled together with humour and great delivery. Who would have known it was about pallets? Fantastic channel, pallet wood is the way forward, keep up the great work, I for one will be watching 👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much for this video. You have answered everything I have been trying to find out about pallet use safety. I have only just started working with pallets to do the exact thing to make some cash. I’ve worked on farms all my working life so far and I’m sick of making everyone one else rich while I just get by. I know this woodworking is not going to make me rich but if I can make a bit extra money it will help. Haven’t made anything to sell yet but hope to do that soon. Thanks again for the help.
Can't tell you what a relief watching this video is. I have only started working with pallet wood recently and I have found myself really nervous about working with unstamped pallets. It is such a weight off my shoulders knowing I'll most likely be fine lol.
I started using pallets after seeing you Channel a while ago. This was an invaluable video as I was concerned about chemical in pallets. Now my mind is at ease 👍🏻 On a positive note, I work for a company that uses pallets for shipping, and I’m allowed as many old or damaged pallets that I like! In fact they will deliver a truckload to my home if a want them. Lucky me 😁 A fan from across the ditch in Wellington, New Zealand 🇳🇿
I have used pallet wood when I was in Canada, managed to get a hold of Jarrah and teak in pallets. beautiful to work with and so i made a clock about 45cm tall. Pallet wood can be a ton of more work to use but you can't beat the price
Pallet lover and 💩 polisher here, this is good to know, good info. The pallets I pick up are from company's/business's/people that I know what goods have been shipped on them and I just look for the marks as well. And yeah fine sawdust is the most damaging/dangerous for the lungs, even more so if it's from stuff like mdf or hardboard.
I've made loads of things with pallets including my daughter's lounge chair and a chair each for my niece and nephew among other things. It's my go to wood because it's better than the environment for recycling and upcycling etc. I'm in the UK but always use PPE.
After 30 years of working with pallets I think that most are safe. I agree with your statement that it is best to give stains a wide berth. Have a great day, back to the sawmill. Regards Liz.
@@dainermade some of the timbers I have been privileged to work with over that time have been amazing. I have grabbed pallets just for a 12 inch piece many times. So many awesome short cut pieces of timber to be had.
Great to have this confirmed so succinctly, I have been researching mb pallets and whether there are safe. I was thinking that as a gas it should dissipate after the job was done. Very reassuring to view this vid, thank-you.
Thank you Mark I am using pallet wood for making toys. So I was a bit concerned about MB stamp on the pallet, I wasn't going to use them. But I will have a re think now. Thanks again Mark Will from NSW
The information you're providing is spot on. I'm a Safety guy here in Tennessee and build things with pallets myself. I keep an eye out for those symbols all the time
Old guy remembers; I was told that MB was called the two step killer. You would smell an onion or garlic odor and the smell would go away. You didn’t smell it anymore because it killed those nerves. Because you inhaled it you would be able to take a couple of steps before dropping to the ground and some other stuff and you died. If you are concerned about residue you could always pressure wash those pallets and let them dry before using.
Ha! I make bee boxes and frames for my hives out of pallet wood. I haven’t lost any bees due to treated pallets. The hives in the purchased (clean) timber are doing as well as the pallet hives.
Very interesting. The only pallets I won’t use are painted ones and ones I’ve had obvious spills on them, because you don’t know what chemical that might of been .
Great tip KNACKERS!!!! Very informative Mr Dainer. I’m impressed! Still won’t stop the haters and your $30,000 dollars worth of tools. But just opens up a whole range of Pallet availability aye. Cheers mate.
Wow! I have been saying that years that you can't polish a turd. Been watching several of your vidoes the last few days and sir you are correct. You have taken nonthing and me it into something outstanding. Nice work
Mark, that was a very special and important video. You explained it all very clearly. We all need to be aware of these things if we decide to do the pallet dive and really woodworking in general. Good one!
Hey Mark, I've been watching your channel for a good while now, and as you can tell by my name, I'm a hippie made of pallets! Ha ha! I'm not really, but I have been making things from pallets and various other "skip finds" and "side of the road" treasures for years now and apart from the fact that I seem to be growing an extra finger, I've never had any trouble! I've also just uploaded my very first video to RUclips. It's rubbish, and the sound quality is abysmal, but I did learn a lot from the process, so hopefully, my editing skills will have improved for my next offering! Keep doing what you're doing, brother. Peace✌️
Thankyou. Amazing video and you answered all my questions about pallet safety so many times I have been told about the poisons used on them to kill bugs. I can now show them your video to shut them up. Cheers mate and thanks again regards John 🇦🇺
I'm now planning out what tools to get and the size of shed to get started in woodworking. You do good work on inspiring people to make cool stuff out of what some would consider junk or waste. Keep up the good work sir!
Hey brother man I’m from America. I absolutely love working with pallet wood. Your videos are very informative and helpful to get ideas fo future projects. Keep up the good work
There are tons of videos on other channels talking about how you should not use MB pallets, but my intuition as a scientist (albeit in botany and microbiology) is much more inline with MB pallets being fine.
If you can, store wood outside before you go to use it. I personally think all wood can be burned but you have to do it safely. I think letting the rain get a chance to wash the wood is not a bad thing as you never can tell what was stored with the wood previously. For simplicity it’s easier to leave pallets in tact and only break up any that are damaged as the parts can be used for other purposes. I have a rotation system so that I can use wood today that has been left outside and then cut and drilled for burning. I don’t just burn pallets, so that’s why I partly drill them. I do sometimes burn fence posts or similar. I recently used some wood from a keep I have and I wanted to know if it was dry in the core and made a small hole, it was very dry and no trace of moisture. Another reason for a hole is to make the fire work its way through the wood and not just around it. The wood from the keep had been in storage for a year and burned really well, when you get the blue flame off a fire it’s a sign that it’s going well. I managed to burn some wood for 12 hours which is about average but sometimes upto 72 hours if there’s enough wood and it’s going to be cold enough. Another thing to consider is placing wood close to what is burning to help it effectively dry out better, this is handy for end pieces which might have moisture in them. You can turn them if needed but be sure to allow room to get to the fire and to rotate any stuff you are drying out. Logs can be good but you need to be careful and patient with them. A bow saw can give you a good cut and help to be a bit more precise. A chainsaw is scary and if you have never used one be very careful indeed, always wear proper protection and take your time to do the task in hand. If you have other people around you they must know they cannot disturb you as it can result in an accident occurring. When I have wood ready to take to the workshop I grade it and then decide how I will cut it. Some wood will be easy to store if you cut it in half and let the air dry it out. Other wood might need some cutting to size so it can be a regular size, logs for example are seldom the same size. A pen or something similar to stack them in is a way of segregating them, you might find some logs dry well and can be used in 3 months after being cut and stored, other larger logs might require 6-9 months. I work a year a head so that allows me time to make the wood work for me. I rarely refuse any wood as I only use what is locally available and free. I have a system that works and that’s often the hard bit, deciding what to work to. Pallets are ok but other stuff is available and know who to trust. A tree will always be a challenge not just to cut with a manual saw but the wood that it provides too. Good practice gives good results. As a general rule the bigger the wood the bigger the saw.
Hi Mark, as I have told you many times before , you are an absolute gentleman. Thankyou for this informative video. Now let me address the haters. Mark is one of the nicest people I've ever dealt with. As such, I'm devestated to hear that anyone, could do or say anything to him, with out the utmost respect. everyone is entitled to their opinion but having said that. No one is entitled to deliver said opinion, in an unpleasant or hurtful / disrespectful manner. Before you press that comment button , always ensure you read it back, as if someone was saying this to you and let that guide you. in my opinion , there should be no such thing as haters. If you disagree with someone, explore your feelings and try to express them in a manner of education or explanation. You don't have to agree with someone but just because you don't agree doesn't necessarily mean you are right ( or wrong ). Let just state one more time , Mark is one of the niceset people I've ever had anything to do with an absolute gentlman in every sense of the word.
Thanks for the info!!! Watch all your vids, they are great and I learn a lot. On your thumbnail for this vid, you look like Mr. White from Breaking Bad! 😊
This is just what I need to see today I picked up some really nice timber pallets but when I finish the first one I noticed the MB on it and was concerned but not now I’m definitely going to use it thanks and keep up the fantastic work love watching your videos I have learned so much from you 💋
Thank you so much for helping to end the drama about MB pallets! Interesting side fact: rapeseed fields are a massive natural emitter of MB. Not saying that makes it less harmful, just find it worth mentioning. Concerning the contamination by spills: The Fraunhofer Institute for Wood Research is working on methods to recycle waste wood that is considered too nasty (due to of wood protection agents etc) and thus is usually burned. They found, surprisingly, that the protection agents usually just penetrate the wood a few millimeters deep and that it therefore could be perfectly recycled if those penetrated mm were removed. Transferred to our matter one might conclude, that sending the stuff through a thicknesser might go a long way if in doubt.
@@dainermade Hey! The research was conducted as part of the European project "CaReWood: Cascading Recovered Wood" finished in 2017. One of the topics was wheter one can recover/decontaminate construction timber - even when painted with paints containing heavy metals or treated with nasty agents like DDT or PCBs - and reuse it in higher quality wood-products like glulams and not directly shred it to particle boards or even burn it (hence cascading). Tests were also conducted on shipping pallets and discarded window frames. Economical an ecological benefits of the cascading use concept were the main research topic. Contamination depth was detected by means of LIBS (Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy), GC-Faims-Technology (Gas Chromatography-Field Asymmetric Ion Mobility Spectrometry) and Near-infrared spectroscopy (NIRS), which of course is not available for our uses. It will thus in no way be a good idea to conclude "just plane any contaminated board down and everything will be fine". There will always be nasty stuff one better leaves alone I guess. However it makes total sense to me that planing down a few mil will reduce or even remove many contaminations. Parts of the work seem to be continued in the current research project "InFutUReWood". Let me know if you'd like to do a deep dive into the matter (though the contamination depth seems to be just a side note) and I'll shout you a couple of links. Cheers mate
This was a very informative video, thank you. I commented on another one about how I stopped using pallets due to bad burns from working with one. Guess YT wanted me to learn more about them.
@@dainermade Yea, it started as a rash then fever blisters the next day. I was not sure what the pallet was protected with but I was handling it fine for a few months moving it around before I decided to cut into it.
thanks for the info mate! good to get a better understanding of what goes on with timber treatment in general especially in stuff we want to work with!
Wow, the timing! I was thinking about making a present using the pallet wood, and just the thought about the safety crossed my mind your video appears in my recs :O Very reassuring to hear this from you and the top comment!
I am considering starting making furniture from pallets. Your videos have helped convince me to give it a try. Thank you for this video it is full of great information.
Great video, mate. This is all about choice, knowledge, and research for makers. People must be responsible for what they do in life. This to me was really informative. I'm definitely no scientist but i'm interested in the arguments. This now encourages me to do my own further due diligence as the only person responsible for my own health and the product that I create is me.
My missus was a manager of a furniture shop. Where to keep a lookout for wood shavings and stuff. Furniture with had that we have to be wrapped up taking away a fumigated and brought back. Share lot of health concerns while working there for 10 years rashes, coughs and stuff. This was only 4 years ago.
One of the best videos I've seen mate, I've always looked at Methyl Bromide on the same level as Atomic waste, so it's good to hear the info, I think this has put a lot of people's minds at rest, but we will still get the haters, still mustnt Grumble
Hi Mark, i've been working my way through your channel content. I really like the results you're getting with pallet bricks. I've been working with wood for about 2 years and starting to eye pallets. Thanks for sharing your work and method. Just one note - CN is the country code for China. Canada's is CA. It's not material to your video but i thought you'd like to know. Maybe you were joking and it went over my head - i dunno!
@@dainermade immeasurable value - I knew to go for HT but given the dissipation characteristics of Methyl Bromide I think I'll grab anything now - one less thing to think about!
thanks for this video! i got plenty of pallet wood that i bought few years back and realized later it was MB stamped, i was reluctant to use them since i hear bad thing about it. the wood looks beautiful and smells unique, i believe its australian cypress since it came from AU.
Great bit of information Mark! Haters are going to hate, even when you share factual information with them. Keep up the great work, looking forward to the next video!!
Hi mark, ive just come across you channel, loving your sense of humour and the projects you come up with. Great to get some info about MB, thanks for letting us know. Hopefully the haters will be quiet for now!! 😂
Brilliant Mark !! After watching your informative video , made me think of the treated timber chippies handle every day. H3.2 , H6 ..... Mind you , the smells that come out of some chippies, can be deadly too .
I just busted up a pallet in the hope of creating a guitar body blank from it, and started to worry about the MB stamp. Glad to see it was for nothing, seeing as I'll likely never make another one, lol.
I've made stuff from pallets for years and as a point I sent samples from 25 different pallets for testing including shavings from end grain, inside a board, whole boards, drilled out and sent in the saw dust from that drilling and absolutely none of it showed any trace of mb or any harmful substances. So thank you for this! Edit, they were all stamped with mb
I was just about to say "you wouldn't really know unless you tested it". I mean, some guy from the MB industry tells us all "it's fine, don't worry", yeah come on. Great that you tested for MB directly, that gives me some confidence. How much did it cost to get the tests done?
@@AshleyMillsTube I don't really remember, it wasn't as much as shipping cost though. But I shipped a lot of material lol this was probably 8-10 years ago. I want to say it was around 400 total. That was to ship material and for the testing too. Been thinking about doing it again but much smaller pieces just to make sure it wasn't a fluke
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 that's cool, thanks for the response. 400 total! jesus, you really went for it lol Would be great to do it again and make a video about the results. I've never worked with pallets but will at some point. I'll investigate here in the UK where testing can be done.
@@dainermade I can tell you, having worked in the petro-chemical and the chemical industry in general, if anything even remotely harmful gets spilt on a palette, that palette is then sent off to what they call "deep burial" at considerable expense, in toxic waste management dumps.
The really nasty stuff is put deep underground, entombed in concrete.
At least that's what the big boys do. Generally, that's what everyone does.
When I was much younger, one of my first jobs before I left school (some 3 decades ago) was to convert an old 40ft container into a kiln. I got to play with some electronics on an actual project for the first time, however the painting the roof and sides with black jack wasn't much fun, nor was the smell of whatever it was that I had to gerni out of the floor. I assumed at the time it was just the remnant smell of the MB. Though having watched this, not so sure about that anymore.
When I left school, my first real job was working for the same people in a timber shed. There was a big ass cyclone for dust extraction but this was back in the 90's when PPE wasn't even an acronym.
At any rate, I've worked in all sorts of industries, exposed to all manner of VOC's, particulates and chemicals. I'm still here. I've even got two good eyes and ten fingers left! God knows how given all the pedestal and hand grinders I've used in my time without safety glasses, a face shield and the medics on standby. 😉
I’m going to go out on a tangent here but from all I heard it should be fine for burning too right? Maybe not for bbqing but for heating.
As a long time pallet wood worker, I will certainly be saving this video to share with people. Thanks for making it!
Well Done Mate!, I have over 30 years in the trade, and this is the best common sense explanation I have ever come upon, there is so much B*****ks talked by so many people trying to sound clever, it's nice to hear commonsense, if you are a woodworker you are used to managing risks, it's how you stay fit and healthy, I have no breathing problems, and I worked with MDF for years, always with good extraction, dust control and a Mask when necessary, I wouldn't have it any other way, also always wore eye and ear protection, for a risk there is a solution, and anyone who doesn't get that does not belong in a workshop or on site!, also if fumigants did not dissipate, you would need PPE just to handle palletised goods, and foodstuffs could not even be shipped on them, it's not a Coating, it a Gas folks, and you and Andy made the point perfectly , Beaut Job Mate ! Julie from UK
Thank you and well done. I 'll let you know when I start. I have a deadline for my first project so I better get into gear. Thanks
I can´t read 307 comments so please excuse me if this has already been said. CN is code for China. CA is Canada. Great video. First time viewer. I´m making a video about making compost with a pallet. Your video was very helpful. Thanks. And oh yes... I´m Canadian.
Mark, you're a bloody champion mate! I only came across your clips by accident but have now subscribed to watch the progression and evolution of' Dainer Made'. Your sense of humour and the way you present a project is truly inspiring. Thumbs up from 'The Birches Woodworking', Sandfly Tassie.
Fully agree, was gonna write exactly the same. Since it's already done, I don't need to. Just confirming the same.
I use pallet wood often in projects. I always pressure wash them before I break them down. I do this mostly for a basic clean up and to get any fine particles from whatever was sitting on them during shipping. It also cleans up the wood from any spillage etc. that may stain the wood.
That is a really good practice. I should do the same 😂
Perhaps your best ever video mate. Seriously great scripting, topic, execution and usefulness. I'll be linking it every time I do a pallet build! :D
Mate. I’m about to see someone to be so informative and helpful.
You covered everything so far. From where to get it , what to get, how to get it .
How to take it a part, how to handle it and reassemble it in something spectacular.
Don’t forget about last videos saying also what to do that sell’s easily and get yourself on the game.
Please never stop doing what you do best that is inspiring people like me. I need it. Lol.
Let the hater’s find something better to do
Cheers mate and thank you for your videos
Thanks for the video Dainer! Will share this video whenever needed.
I had concluded the same thing about five years ago when I first started pallet wood working as a hobby. It’s good to hear that the information I previously learned is still valid and confirmed by a professional
A nice lecture on pallets. And facts. I still love recycling. Keep following the rules. Thanks dude. All the best.
@@dainermade see you. Cheers Mark
Love the video, so much good information and what a plot twist! I had no idea that's how it's done. Agree on the fine dust matter, still needs to hook up my bigger machines to a system.
You guys are awesome 🤘
As someone trying to start my own business I couldn't be happier with this information. It proves that just because something started out for one purpose doesn't mean it can't be repurposed for something else. If someone is willing to do the work. For the sake of convenience many have become wasteful. Thanks again for the information. 🙂👍
The video we needed! Seen a bunch of these, as most woodworkers using pallets have to keep explaining to the haters that the materials are checked, modified and sealed by the time it gets to the final product! Great explanation as always! ☺️
I think this is the best video I have watched on any subject on RUclips.
Punchy presentation with accurate facts, pulled together with humour and great delivery. Who would have known it was about pallets?
Fantastic channel, pallet wood is the way forward, keep up the great work, I for one will be watching 👍👍👍👍
Another Stella Video. I worked in container shipping for many years and MB is definitely the international standard.
Love the vids man. Thanks for the info. This is exactly what I've been wondering about. Cheers
Thank you so much for this video. You have answered everything I have been trying to find out about pallet use safety. I have only just started working with pallets to do the exact thing to make some cash. I’ve worked on farms all my working life so far and I’m sick of making everyone one else rich while I just get by. I know this woodworking is not going to make me rich but if I can make a bit extra money it will help.
Haven’t made anything to sell yet but hope to do that soon.
Thanks again for the help.
Not a problem at all. Woodwork and making cool stuff is going to give you so much more than money 😉
Can't tell you what a relief watching this video is. I have only started working with pallet wood recently and I have found myself really nervous about working with unstamped pallets. It is such a weight off my shoulders knowing I'll most likely be fine lol.
Carry on 🫡 enjoy
I started using pallets after seeing you Channel a while ago. This was an invaluable video as I was concerned about chemical in pallets. Now my mind is at ease 👍🏻
On a positive note, I work for a company that uses pallets for shipping, and I’m allowed as many old or damaged pallets that I like! In fact they will deliver a truckload to my home if a want them.
Lucky me 😁
A fan from across the ditch in Wellington, New Zealand 🇳🇿
I have used pallet wood when I was in Canada, managed to get a hold of Jarrah and teak in pallets. beautiful to work with and so i made a clock about 45cm tall. Pallet wood can be a ton of more work to use but you can't beat the price
Pallet lover and 💩 polisher here, this is good to know, good info. The pallets I pick up are from company's/business's/people that I know what goods have been shipped on them and I just look for the marks as well. And yeah fine sawdust is the most damaging/dangerous for the lungs, even more so if it's from stuff like mdf or hardboard.
I've made loads of things with pallets including my daughter's lounge chair and a chair each for my niece and nephew among other things. It's my go to wood because it's better than the environment for recycling and upcycling etc. I'm in the UK but always use PPE.
After 30 years of working with pallets I think that most are safe.
I agree with your statement that it is best to give stains a wide berth.
Have a great day, back to the sawmill.
Regards
Liz.
@@dainermade some of the timbers I have been privileged to work with over that time have been amazing.
I have grabbed pallets just for a 12 inch piece many times.
So many awesome short cut pieces of timber to be had.
@@dainermade I run a sawmilling operation, I hate to see absolutely anything usable wasted.
One of the best information I have ever got from a wood working personal. Thank you so much.
Great to have this confirmed so succinctly, I have been researching mb pallets and whether there are safe. I was thinking that as a gas it should dissipate after the job was done. Very reassuring to view this vid, thank-you.
Outstanding video mate, nice to see someone using facts not opinions regarding chemicals.
Thank you Mark I am using pallet wood for making toys. So I was a bit concerned about MB stamp on the pallet, I wasn't going to use them. But I will have a re think now. Thanks again Mark
Will from NSW
Glad it could help! Enjoy mate
aweseome video mate! thanks for sharing! really needed to know this stuff. Thanks for taking the timing to do it.
Thank you Professor Dainer 🙏, very informative!!
Yes you can polish a turd. Best comment right at the end. Keep up the good work and glad to see a hard worker making some $$$ and reusing old wood!
The information you're providing is spot on. I'm a Safety guy here in Tennessee and build things with pallets myself. I keep an eye out for those symbols all the time
Old guy remembers; I was told that MB was called the two step killer. You would smell an onion or garlic odor and the smell would go away. You didn’t smell it anymore because it killed those nerves. Because you inhaled it you would be able to take a couple of steps before dropping to the ground and some other stuff and you died. If you are concerned about residue you could always pressure wash those pallets and let them dry before using.
Thank you for this video, you are loved!
Great video, relieved my concerns about using pallets. Thank you
Awesome info thanks. Super helpful.
Excellent vidio thanks again Mark..
Interesting!!! Most useful thing I've heard this week I think!
Cheers mate👍🏴🇬🇧
Ha! I make bee boxes and frames for my hives out of pallet wood. I haven’t lost any bees due to treated pallets. The hives in the purchased (clean) timber are doing as well as the pallet hives.
Thanks for putting this video/response together Mark!!
❤thank you! I just grabbed my first load of pallets and was concerned with all the stamps until now.
Happy days 😆🫡
I appreciate your transparency and your sharing of information. Thank you.
Very interesting. The only pallets I won’t use are painted ones and ones I’ve had obvious spills on them, because you don’t know what chemical that might of been .
Great tip KNACKERS!!!! Very informative Mr Dainer. I’m impressed! Still won’t stop the haters and your $30,000 dollars worth of tools. But just opens up a whole range of Pallet availability aye. Cheers mate.
I only know three species of wood, pallet, scaffold boards, and Other Wood. I’ll carry on using them!👍🏻
I am pointing everyone to this video when I start my next pallet build!!!!
Great info mate, love your work.
Wow! I have been saying that years that you can't polish a turd. Been watching several of your vidoes the last few days and sir you are correct. You have taken nonthing and me it into something outstanding. Nice work
Thanks so much. I used pallets to make a mini garden but have been nervous about using it without a liner.
Thanks for that. As a newbie to pallet reclaim it's good to hear.
Mark, that was a very special and important video. You explained it all very clearly. We all need to be aware of these things if we decide to do the pallet dive and really woodworking in general. Good one!
@@dainermade its safe enough to work with but is it safe to burn the scraps?
Interesting! Finally an explanation why the campfire smells so bad sometimes x’D
Hey Mark, I've been watching your channel for a good while now, and as you can tell by my name, I'm a hippie made of pallets! Ha ha! I'm not really, but I have been making things from pallets and various other "skip finds" and "side of the road" treasures for years now and apart from the fact that I seem to be growing an extra finger, I've never had any trouble! I've also just uploaded my very first video to RUclips. It's rubbish, and the sound quality is abysmal, but I did learn a lot from the process, so hopefully, my editing skills will have improved for my next offering! Keep doing what you're doing, brother. Peace✌️
Cheers mate, that’s the best way to go. Make a heap of video and just improve on every one
Thankyou. Amazing video and you answered all my questions about pallet safety so many times I have been told about the poisons used on them to kill bugs. I can now show them your video to shut them up. Cheers mate and thanks again regards John 🇦🇺
Mark, fantastic video!!! One of your best. Thanks for giving us makers this video for our arsenal. And thanks Andy for getting involved.
Well done Mark One of the best videos I have seen on WOOD....your a star mate and Thank you for spending Precious time on this
I'm now planning out what tools to get and the size of shed to get started in woodworking. You do good work on inspiring people to make cool stuff out of what some would consider junk or waste.
Keep up the good work sir!
Hey brother man I’m from America. I absolutely love working with pallet wood. Your videos are very informative and helpful to get ideas fo future projects. Keep up the good work
cheers mate
😂😂...One sniff and you'll be stiff!...touche you man 😂Great video and great information regarding those pesky pallets mate. Well done 👍😁🇦🇺
Thanks mate for the video, subbed so won't miss anything. G'day from the UK.
There are tons of videos on other channels talking about how you should not use MB pallets, but my intuition as a scientist (albeit in botany and microbiology) is much more inline with MB pallets being fine.
I think the science on this one, more than proves it. Most people just read the first google search on pallets, and the info is not correct
Thanks Mark, I was a bit worried about this but now you’ve put my mind at ease. 👍
Awesome video mate, really informative mate, thanks mate.
Good info, thanks for sharing.
Great video. Thanks for putting it together.
Thanks that's awesome. Great info
If you can, store wood outside before you go to use it. I personally think all wood can be burned but you have to do it safely. I think letting the rain get a chance to wash the wood is not a bad thing as you never can tell what was stored with the wood previously. For simplicity it’s easier to leave pallets in tact and only break up any that are damaged as the parts can be used for other purposes. I have a rotation system so that I can use wood today that has been left outside and then cut and drilled for burning. I don’t just burn pallets, so that’s why I partly drill them. I do sometimes burn fence posts or similar. I recently used some wood from a keep I have and I wanted to know if it was dry in the core and made a small hole, it was very dry and no trace of moisture. Another reason for a hole is to make the fire work its way through the wood and not just around it. The wood from the keep had been in storage for a year and burned really well, when you get the blue flame off a fire it’s a sign that it’s going well. I managed to burn some wood for 12 hours which is about average but sometimes upto 72 hours if there’s enough wood and it’s going to be cold enough. Another thing to consider is placing wood close to what is burning to help it effectively dry out better, this is handy for end pieces which might have moisture in them. You can turn them if needed but be sure to allow room to get to the fire and to rotate any stuff you are drying out. Logs can be good but you need to be careful and patient with them. A bow saw can give you a good cut and help to be a bit more precise. A chainsaw is scary and if you have never used one be very careful indeed, always wear proper protection and take your time to do the task in hand. If you have other people around you they must know they cannot disturb you as it can result in an accident occurring. When I have wood ready to take to the workshop I grade it and then decide how I will cut it. Some wood will be easy to store if you cut it in half and let the air dry it out. Other wood might need some cutting to size so it can be a regular size, logs for example are seldom the same size. A pen or something similar to stack them in is a way of segregating them, you might find some logs dry well and can be used in 3 months after being cut and stored, other larger logs might require 6-9 months. I work a year a head so that allows me time to make the wood work for me. I rarely refuse any wood as I only use what is locally available and free. I have a system that works and that’s often the hard bit, deciding what to work to. Pallets are ok but other stuff is available and know who to trust. A tree will always be a challenge not just to cut with a manual saw but the wood that it provides too. Good practice gives good results. As a general rule the bigger the wood the bigger the saw.
You may not have wanted to make this video; but it's likely to be the best / most important one you've done! Fair play!
I am glad you have made video cause I have only just learnt about MB and was unsure as put my coffee table on hold 25 % into the project.
Thank you 😁
Great video, well done.
Recently found your channel and have been enjoying watching back through the catalogue.
Cheers from Scotland!
Hey mate, thanks for this. I'm just starting out woodworking with pallets because of your channel. Love your work , keep ya pecker up.
Very Informative, along with your research sources. Job Well Done.!!
Another great video! Thanks for sharing!
Hi Mark, as I have told you many times before , you are an absolute gentleman. Thankyou for this informative video. Now let me address the haters. Mark is one of the nicest people I've ever dealt with. As such, I'm devestated to hear that anyone, could do or say anything to him, with out the utmost respect. everyone is entitled to their opinion but having said that. No one is entitled to deliver said opinion, in an unpleasant or hurtful / disrespectful manner. Before you press that comment button , always ensure you read it back, as if someone was saying this to you and let that guide you. in my opinion , there should be no such thing as haters. If you disagree with someone, explore your feelings and try to express them in a manner of education or explanation. You don't have to agree with someone but just because you don't agree doesn't necessarily mean you are right ( or wrong ). Let just state one more time , Mark is one of the niceset people I've ever had anything to do with an absolute gentlman in every sense of the word.
Haha. Love your work mate…!!
Thanks for the info!!! Watch all your vids, they are great and I learn a lot. On your thumbnail for this vid, you look like Mr. White from Breaking Bad! 😊
This is just what I need to see today I picked up some really nice timber pallets but when I finish the first one I noticed the MB on it and was concerned but not now I’m definitely going to use it thanks and keep up the fantastic work love watching your videos I have learned so much from you 💋
Awesome mate. I’ve left so many good pallets behind because of the MB myth. So sad hahaha
Thank you so much for helping to end the drama about MB pallets!
Interesting side fact: rapeseed fields are a massive natural emitter of MB. Not saying that makes it less harmful, just find it worth mentioning.
Concerning the contamination by spills: The Fraunhofer Institute for Wood Research is working on methods to recycle waste wood that is considered too nasty (due to of wood protection agents etc) and thus is usually burned. They found, surprisingly, that the protection agents usually just penetrate the wood a few millimeters deep and that it therefore could be perfectly recycled if those penetrated mm were removed. Transferred to our matter one might conclude, that sending the stuff through a thicknesser might go a long way if in doubt.
@@dainermade Hey! The research was conducted as part of the European project "CaReWood: Cascading Recovered Wood" finished in 2017. One of the topics was wheter one can recover/decontaminate construction timber - even when painted with paints containing heavy metals or treated with nasty agents like DDT or PCBs - and reuse it in higher quality wood-products like glulams and not directly shred it to particle boards or even burn it (hence cascading). Tests were also conducted on shipping pallets and discarded window frames. Economical an ecological benefits of the cascading use concept were the main research topic.
Contamination depth was detected by means of LIBS (Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy), GC-Faims-Technology (Gas Chromatography-Field Asymmetric Ion Mobility Spectrometry) and Near-infrared spectroscopy (NIRS), which of course is not available for our uses. It will thus in no way be a good idea to conclude "just plane any contaminated board down and everything will be fine". There will always be nasty stuff one better leaves alone I guess. However it makes total sense to me that planing down a few mil will reduce or even remove many contaminations.
Parts of the work seem to be continued in the current research project "InFutUReWood".
Let me know if you'd like to do a deep dive into the matter (though the contamination depth seems to be just a side note) and I'll shout you a couple of links.
Cheers mate
This was a very informative video, thank you. I commented on another one about how I stopped using pallets due to bad burns from working with one. Guess YT wanted me to learn more about them.
@@dainermade Yea, it started as a rash then fever blisters the next day. I was not sure what the pallet was protected with but I was handling it fine for a few months moving it around before I decided to cut into it.
thanks for the info mate! good to get a better understanding of what goes on with timber treatment in general especially in stuff we want to work with!
Great video mate. Don’t worry about the haters. They will always find something or body to hate.
The pallet furniture looks great. 👍
Wow, the timing! I was thinking about making a present using the pallet wood, and just the thought about the safety crossed my mind your video appears in my recs :O
Very reassuring to hear this from you and the top comment!
@@dainermade will do! Thank you!
I am considering starting making furniture from pallets. Your videos have helped convince me to give it a try. Thank you for this video it is full of great information.
Great video, mate. This is all about choice, knowledge, and research for makers. People must be responsible for what they do in life. This to me was really informative. I'm definitely no scientist but i'm interested in the arguments. This now encourages me to do my own further due diligence as the only person responsible for my own health and the product that I create is me.
I've only just discovered your channel. Many apologies. 😃 Very entertaining. I enjoy them very much. Here's 2 quid. Yes. I'm a "pom"
My missus was a manager of a furniture shop. Where to keep a lookout for wood shavings and stuff. Furniture with had that we have to be wrapped up taking away a fumigated and brought back. Share lot of health concerns while working there for 10 years rashes, coughs and stuff. This was only 4 years ago.
Excellent informative video Mark. I just subscribed and love your channel!
One of the best videos I've seen mate, I've always looked at Methyl Bromide on the same level as Atomic waste, so it's good to hear the info, I think this has put a lot of people's minds at rest, but we will still get the haters, still mustnt Grumble
Well thanks. That makes the idea of using pallets more err… palatable!
Interesting. Good bit of info to know!
Thank you. Just starting to pit together a work shop. 1st time ever I have a garden. So I thought a man cave. Wife thought work shop lol.
Hi Mark, i've been working my way through your channel content. I really like the results you're getting with pallet bricks. I've been working with wood for about 2 years and starting to eye pallets. Thanks for sharing your work and method. Just one note - CN is the country code for China. Canada's is CA. It's not material to your video but i thought you'd like to know. Maybe you were joking and it went over my head - i dunno!
4:40 So many jokes, so little time. Great video, much appreciated.
@@dainermade immeasurable value - I knew to go for HT but given the dissipation characteristics of Methyl Bromide I think I'll grab anything now - one less thing to think about!
@@dainermade I might release a video saying MB pallets are deadly and you should contact me to dispose of it properly if you ever see one in Victoria.
thanks for this video! i got plenty of pallet wood that i bought few years back and realized later it was MB stamped, i was reluctant to use them since i hear bad thing about it. the wood looks beautiful and smells unique, i believe its australian cypress since it came from AU.
Great video Mark. Always good to have more facts in front of us when making decisions. Cheers
Great bit of information Mark! Haters are going to hate, even when you share factual information with them. Keep up the great work, looking forward to the next video!!
@@dainermade Oh, I can only imagine what is coming your way! Stand strong Mark!!
Great little video!
Hi mark, ive just come across you channel, loving your sense of humour and the projects you come up with. Great to get some info about MB, thanks for letting us know. Hopefully the haters will be quiet for now!! 😂
Brilliant Mark !! After watching your informative video , made me think of the treated timber chippies handle every day. H3.2 , H6 ..... Mind you , the smells that come out of some chippies, can be deadly too .
I just busted up a pallet in the hope of creating a guitar body blank from it, and started to worry about the MB stamp. Glad to see it was for nothing, seeing as I'll likely never make another one, lol.
Haha! Great comment mate