Muslim Prayer Victory. EU's Fascist Undertones. Is Liz Truss a True Conservative? UK Smoking Ban.
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2024
- On today's #NCFNewspeak, NCF Director Peter Whittle, Senior Fellow Rafe Heydel-Mankoo and SDP London mayoral candidate Amy Gallagher discuss:
* Free Speech suppressed in the heart of the EU at the National Conservative (NatCon) conference.
* Katherine Birbalsingh's landmark victory as court rules Muslim children do not have the right to pray in her Michaela school.
* Britain introduces the world's strictest smoking ban.
* Liz Truss wants to revive traditional conservative. But how conservative is she really?
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In fairness Aaron Bastani absolutely does come out and defend the right, and he defended Farage over the Natwest scandal.
I am so far right; i am not wrong.
So am i .william6223
If being patriotic makes me far right....THEN I`M PROUD TO BE FAR RIGHT.
I am more far right
No need to shout.
@@SpeedfreakUK Personally i don't think of caps as shouting, more an indication of madness.
Personally I do not recognise typed upper case as shouting or aggressive, but rather as a statement of personal opinion.
We have fallen for a narrative of "Hurty" words in a world that seeks everyone to follow the offended victim.
@@nealgrimes4382 You can put * *around text* * to make it *bold* instead.
this is the most foolish time in British history
True.All the traditional positions like left right and centre have become meaningless or outmoded or open to infinite number of interpretations in our post truth society
All by dark design
True. But this authoritarianism actually happened in Belgium, not just Britain.
Well, you lot let them in ! An alien culture and religion with a history of challenging and overthrow of an existing society and governance ! You letting in yet more muslims, fools ?
America as well. All traditions are being flipped on their heads. Islam is holding the world hostage and our leaders (so called) are all spineless greedy jackals. 🙄
Far right & proud.
👍💯
All that tells me is that you aren't a Maoist...
You mean sensible centrist…
I didn't realise that I am Far Right, I just thought that I applied common sense to my views & opinions and don't support violence in any form. A bit like Diane Abacus branding me a racist because I dared to vote Leave in the 2016 referendum. Do these left leaning individuals realise that if they keep on attempting to silence anyone who doesn't align that eventually everything with simply backfire. We saw it in 1989 when after 45 years the Berlin wall came down leading to the divorce of the Warsaw pact nations from the USSR and then the break up of the USSR itself.
What does that term mean now?
To me things are wonky actually 'far-right' when they are authoritarian, don't believe in free speech, are racial supremacists and similar.
People like Tommy aren't far-right, just right wing
The islamocommies feel emboldened.
Everyone to the right of Pol Pot is considered "far right" in the UK; the U.S. is not far behind.
This tag is just to scare the wokerati sheep into believing fascism is on our doorstep. Perversely, it is they who are engaging in authoritarian practices and they fail to comprehend it.
Pol Pot was a nationalist. So was Ho Chi Minh. The "communism" part of Asian anti-imperial nationalist revolutions concerned taking "property rights" away from the foreign colonizers. Don't get confused. "Western" brains are all tangled up on TV propaganda. Vietnam today has a higher per-capita GDP than India.
Well pol pot was extreme right and if you are to the right of that. Do the maths. Duh
@@karlowens5632 Pol Pot was a communist...
@@karlowens5632 He was a Marxist. Perhaps instead of doing the maths you should read some history.
Truss was NOT responsible for the economic mess. That lies with the Governor of the Bank of England, and the OBR. Read the bloody book!
No connection at all whatsoever.
She was responsible for the big energy bailout, but basically no one across the political spectrum disagreed with her and it made up 99% of the spending. None of the other stuff she budgeted for actually happened, so 100% in the end. It’s a completely two-faced accusation.
I refuse to feel anything for Truss. Wants to increase the amounts of imported problems for "growth". She's a lib dem in tory colours.
@@LeeGee Big lunch Bailey needs to go on a diet, and concentrate on his day job a bit more.
When BlackRock and the EU realised that truss had spent 3 years making trade plans and attempted to kickstart the economy they used their WEF members to get BlackRock and Soros to undermine the economy by pulling investments out of the UK.
The EU also, with their billions poured into our media used high level propaganda.
Make no mistake we are in the late stages of what was first a war through insurgency and attrition. Soon it will be with brute force. More and police and politicians are now foreign.
I love Rafe❤❤
As do I ❤️🇦🇺
Me too. He always make such interesting and balanced points
😊
To clarify: the ones that tried to cancel the event were all from the French speaking part of Brussels. We the Flemish part of Belgium were all outraged at the cancelation. And it was no surprise to us because we have to endure this already decades long from the French speaking part of Belgium who are left or far left and are so arrogant that they don't tolerate any other righwing opinion.
❤ Rafe = Sanity .
These aren't police, they're Stasi.
You don't know what the Stasi were do you?
@@alaninsoflo Troll!
@@alaninsoflo I'm guessing you're not old enough to even remember hearing about them before yourself. I do. I'm a Cold War Veteran. The west won the Cold War but some traitor left the "back door" open.
New York may have banned smoking….BUT the drug taking ALL across US is shockingly out of control with NO laws or enforcement in place.
The smell of dope in NYC is knock-out-able!! Couldn’t believe it when I was there. 😮💨
I am not far right. I didn’t vote for Brexit. But how people conduct themselves after a divorce really shows who they are. That has changed my view on the eu. I love Europe . It’s the eu bureaucrats that I’m worried about.
I have exactly the same view, also voted Remain, glad we left.
Brexit wasn't a far-right issue, unless we are now claiming 52% of the country are far-right. If we are claiming 52% of the country is far-right then the real discussion to be had is how the left have changed so extremely that this is now the framing of normal people. Maybe what we call far-right is in fact just the normal view that has always been normal and the real extremists are those who are radically changing and redefining what is normal, at the expense of the majority.
I voted remain but yes seeing the reactions to Brexit made me rethink my position.
If you aren’t a communist, you’re far right. To a communist.
Being a communist isn’t even enough anymore. You have to be a communist who pretends not to know what a woman is.
The most far right communist was adolf hitler.
Literally. These people are the extremists, not the average person who holds views that were considered normal only a decade+ previously.
How ironic. In fact all you are doing is calling people who don't agree with you communists. This is a blatant display of right wing idiocy
@@jupitermoongauge4055 public ownership of everything + massive government censorship & centralisation. What else would you call that?
Liz Truss wanted to build houses on the green belt too. She's not a conservative; just another self-seeking politician.
Best thing to do then is never support Far Left. Very scary times ahead if we don't get a grip on this now.
That's why I'm never voting tory again
Oh please tell me where the far left is, because I will definitely vote for them.
@@jupitermoongauge4055 Labour
@@stevenpaterson5100 labour ? Congrats on your total ignorance
Consider the slope of tyranny of not being able to buy a smoke.
It is a funny one, I suspect some point they will legalise weed because they want the taxes.
Germany just has ...
@@RichardEnglander I'm sure your rulers will legalize marijuana; it's a pacifier.
@@Mark_Penrose haha I said same today!! Soma....
@@RichardEnglander Can't cope, Don't mope, there's Hope, Smoke dope - Hightimes Magazine
My mum died from smoking aged 68.
Truss is not a conservative, our man covered it very well. And Penny....Lord help us
It is disgusting that the girl objecting to the well broadcast rules of the school was allowed to waste public funds.
Ive been calling out the fascist undertones of the EU and most western governments for some years now. Just look at the definition. The world economic forum is the very epitome of it.
Fascisme came from the leftists. Example, Mussolini.
@@agbjorn953 indeed it certainly does. You could never accuse these organisations as being from the right.
@@agbjorn953Marxism and Fascism are both rooted in the same Hegel game. Left and right side of the same coin.
Both Hitler and El Duce were literally Communists before they rebranded with national/racial slants.
The leader of the WEF is the son of Hitler's right hand man and used to tour the factories and camps with hitler and his dad..rest my case
Kahn will only ban smoking in public places if he can make money out of it.
I should think a series of absorptive fines will soon follow.
Foreigners & Their Sons aren't to be Obeyed in the UK They're only Status in the UK is Tolerated Resident...
The Three Slogans of The Uniparty:
SPEECH IS VIOLENCE
FREEDOM IS DANGER
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH
It's good to know there are a few sane broadcasters in this awful Post-Christian society we are trapped in. Thank God for The New culture forum ❤
I, for one, am tired of religion. It's anti-science, and it's to prevent people from thinking for themselves.
Not far right, just right,🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
Christian fascism
@@jupitermoongauge4055 I was always a left wing Christian most of my life. I have moved on my politics in light of a lot of craziness from people I thought were centrist but turn out to be cultural Marxists. 😞
@@clairee4939 "cultural Marxist" is a term that ignorant pseudo intellectual right wing grifters like Jordan Peterson love to throw around and have yet to prove that it actually means anything. The fact that someone was a Christian and presumably still is just goes to show that they can't apply rationality to their beliefs and convictions.
I do know one thing. Go back and watch all Peter Hitchens stuff. He was right.
More of a Christopher Hitchens fan myself.
The burning question should be... did those 3 mayors act on thier own volition or by order's from higher up in the eu council?
Exactly and very likely the latter.
WEF I’m certain , the bigger picture from all from what is happening in the world derives from the elites WEF TO BASICALLY RULE OVER EVERY WORKING CLASS TO HAVE NOTHING WHILST THEY LIVE IN LUXURY ..end off ,,😡
A 'girl' bringing a court case against a school? That should be investigated as to who, actually, brought, instigated the legal action or who or what was behind it. Where is the critical analysis done by Home Office ?, MI5 ?, who else?
No little school girl would know how or why or need to instigate such an action ! And 1o00k legal fee? Disgusting.
It shows EU is not a democracy.
This was great, thoroughly enjoyed, thanks.
I'm on the left but anti woke, so i'm far Right now.
I'm not sure the prayer ban is that much of a victory; the headteacher has very strict rules in order to keep a lid on the tensions between the various 'communities' of pupils, courtesy of our mad immigration situation. This wasn't an issue when I was at school because there was just one body of pupils (with competent, rational adults in charge), and it shouldn't be necessary now; sadly it is.
Yes! Diversity is Strength, so much so that authoritarian measures are needed to make it work!
The latest anti-smoking laws are just ridiculous. Can you imagine one day having a forty year old stood outside the shop asking you if you'd get him 20 Lambert and Butler? It's so stupid it isn't even funny!
Who can forget the good old days of 'Craven A......for men'. 2 and 6 pence for 20.
They'll have stopped selling them by then, which is the plan. I don't like smoking but i see how ridiculous this is, it's just more social engineering from the overlords.
@@14Anon2 They outlawed cannabis before, the Victorians could buy it at their local tobacconist,. you'll notice that people never stopped smoking it, they just started buying it without the tax on top!
Outrageous and egregious methinks
don't worry we are in good hands { sarc }
What I like about this forum is that it is calm , measured and above all civilised.
Yes! Same 😊
Some Tories are making £millions out of the trade in human cargo. Illegal migration is deliberate filling hotels and rental property all paid for by state funding.
As are far left NGOs and so called Human rights lawyers. Many have their grubby and greedy fingers in the Immigration racket.
To be fair the EU. is a modern Empire nothing else !
They never gave up their coloniser mentality. Just adapted it so we wouldn't notice
Love Tousi tv too.
theres a large gathering of muslims in july outside of farnham, a yearly thing...can you IMAGINE the outrage of the mayor of farnham said we can't allow this because of the things they might talk about in that hall ! I'm just so astounded by all this palava
Farnham? Why?!
@@LeeGee theres a big muslim educational centre there
@@NOT_SURE.. bit of an oxymoron there, no....?
Kids parents should be paying for this legal action not the tax payer.
Making an example of one case such as dear Roy castle does not qualify as a proof.
Conservatism isn’t enough. We need full fledged ethno nationalism if we are to restore the honour and future of our people
Who you going to start with. Foolish comment. Look at your own ethnicity before making rash statements
Who are you going to start with. Look at your own ethnicity before making rash statements
@@karlowens5632 Prior to the 1960s places like Britain were de facto ethno-nationalist states already. Australia and America explicitly so. My proposal is not historically unrealistic. It is actually globalist liberalism which is the "extremist" position in historical terms. It is perfectly rational and reasonable to be on the side of your own people.
Everyone who calls you "far right" is in fact "far right" themselves.
These Islamists getting legal aid for their ridiculous case is a total disgrace I would think they were worried about being called Islamophobic if they hadn't given it I suppose the tax payer can just be pleased it didn't come to millions.
Brilliant! Rafe on Truss! 👏👏👏🤣💐❤️
Re the smoking ban, making drugs illegal worked a treat didn't it ?.
In 1943, the following directive was issued from Party headquarters to all Communists in the United States. It read:
"When certain obstructionists become too irritating, label them after suitable buildups, as fascist or nazi or anti-semitic, and use the prestige of anti-fascist and tolerance organizations to discredit them. In the public mind constantly associate those who oppose us with those names which already have a bad smell. The association will, after enough repetition, become fact in the public mind.
Without question that tactic has worked.
That wonderful school is truly brilliant!👍
On the question of how Liz Truss got so far in her career, there was an interesting article in Quillette a while ago arguing that she was basically an affirmative action hire. She got made an MP, got promoted and protected and made it into the cabinet and into ever more senior positions whenever the Tories felt they needed more women on display. And whenever she was criticised (as she was), she was able to get the media on side to present her as a modern, go-ahead woman being held back by stuffy Tory misogynists, rather than someone who was just out of her depth.
On a much lighter note, I like Rafe more and more every time I listen to him but especially now that I know he is a cigar man. God save the King. God bless America.
Surely the alledged Creator of the Universe doesn't mind school children waiting till after school to pray.
Ooh wonderful, St George’s Day…but I’m away in Hastings…but will look for others who are celebrating. 😊
ok now we are now all labelled we can move on and dismantle the islamofascists' we can vote them into obscurity and finally get our land back
"This happy breed of men,
This little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,
This blessed plot,
This Earth,
This realm,
This England - ⚘️
Richard II (W. Shakespeare)
I think the later lines of this speech are just as valid as the former, in a world of globalisation...
"England, bound in with the triumphant sea
Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
That England, that was wont to conquer others,
Hath made a shameful conquest of itself."
Much of the damage done to England has been done by English politicians and bureaucrats conquering us from within and selling national assets to our enemies.
@golfbulldog exactly, western civilization is being assaulted from within. The Liberal Left is its worst enemy
What i like about far right is that it far more correct
The banning of cigarettes to people under 15 in perpetuity was designed as a distraction (firstly); a rare and easy victory for Sunak and the Tories for credibility purposes (secondly); and a nod of approval to Jacinda Arden's Primeministerhship and future career prospects (thirdly).
It will be used as the gateway for central bank digital currencies and digital IDs. After that, banning anything is game.
I loved Rafe's dismantling of Liz Truss, hilarious. She isn't a true conservative and was out of her depth as PM.
Very enjoyable as always. How nice to have differing opinions and no one walks off set, no crying or shouting occurs and the conversation can transition smoothly onto other subjects. I miss sanity. 😁
I am 70 year old OLD LABOUR man! Guess what? I am now FAR RIGHT!
Great conversation - nuanced.
All of this is a perfect demonstration , of the absence of any mental maturity in left wing circles!😀🤔😏🇬🇧
How incredibly strange that the PM of Brussels took so long to make clear that the mayors actions were both unconstitutional and unlawful. Similarly strange that no one in Belgium has suspended the mayor nor called for him to resign. But yet the people of Brussels would be the first to expect the British armed services to protect them under the current NATO charter which appears unfit for purpose where the EU are the ones with a history of hostile behaviour towards the U.K. whether it’s stealing covid vaccines, enabling boats to cross the channel, challenging British fishing rights or problems of the ECHR meddling in British domestic policy.
How many Americans do we have living in England 🤔🤔🇬🇧why they so interested in our policies
Dear Peter love all you do ! We must as a nation push back against all this tyranny . I’m with you on the smoking ban I have smoked all my life well since the age of 13 I am now 68 and still enjoy a smoke I roll my own 👍next time you interview Richard Tice could you ask him if he gets elected will he reduce the tax on tobacco and bring back tobacconist ! 😊 thanks for all you do for true conservatives .
Too much revenue would be lost without cigarette sales. I cant see it happening.
How much would have to be spent on dealing with smuggling tobacco into the country ?
Cigars are still dangerous … passive smoking!!
I have been going to the Birmingham event and the numbers are growing!! Next one will be this Sunday meeting at the Waterloo Public house, Bennetts Hill at 5:30. Fred will be hosting.
Believe me, the Muslim men, ie , father and brothers were behind this. I've seen this a few times over the years. Good on that head teacher.
Liz Truss's experience was NOT gained just over 49 days, but through her experience as an Mp, Cabinet member and PM! Why are you belittling one of the few Conservatives left in the Party?
Because she isn't playing the WEF game
this is an old people channel, they still havent quite got to the point of not beliving what they read in their newspaper, They've only just discovered the TV is lying, but they still think GB news isnt controlled opposition.
Truss is exactly what these folk say she is.
"14:05" the smoking ban in pubs in pubs and restaurants, didn't help with anything really my friends busy pub and a few hundred others closed within 6-9 months, after the ban was introduced, some tried to use back gardens on the property to make beer gardens even that didn't help much.
the girl
"27:33" she received £150,000 in legal aid, she had also been suspended for threats to another pupil. not much information about that though.
I don't want to live into my eighties or nineties.
The police should have gone to defend the conference!😮
As a hopefully former smoker - i would never want to give up my right to get addicted and come off the addiction to the government. Smoking gave me years of wonderful interactions with people.
I am a non-smoker who believes that smoking anything is a disgusting habit. However, I will never support an outright smoking ban. We've already made most public spaces smoke free to protect me and other non-smokers from the dangers of second hand smoke. The government should not be able to prevent adults from purchasing tobacco products. What's next? Preventing people from buying fast food or sugary drinks? This creeping totalitarianism needs to be stopped in its tracks.
This ban will make no difference to the young people smoking. If they have decided to smoke, they will do so. The government say they do not have enough time to discuss many things in parliament, one which is the early deaths happening since Covid, yet they push through this irrelevant ban!
I'm surprised none of you quoted John Mortimer:
'There's no pleasure on earth that's worth sacrificing for the sake of an extra five years in the geriatric ward of the Sunset Old People's Home, Weston-Super-Mare.'
Rumpole's Last Case (1987)
Is better to be far right than far wrong.
On the passive smoking issue ,Roy Castle who died from lung cancer, it was thought was inhaling smoke in crowded nightclubs and I think taking deep breaths whilst playing his trumpet concentrated cigarette smoke in his lungs. Also not so well known is non smoker jazz singer Marion Montgomery died from lung cancer. Marion also spent much of her life singing in clubs.
Seems to me that there is no centre - we seem to go from 'left' straight to 'far right'. Just absurd!
The far more worrying thing about the smoking ban to come is that it will require ALL adults to carry ID
The facial recognition cameras that will know our id's will sort that 😢
The thought of a Labour Government is terrifying. I have yet to hear a member from the Labour Party talking sensibly, most act like a playground full of bullying children! BTW would be better if the government had talked about drugs and alcohol. Children manage to get their hands on such and if they want cigarettes, they will just get an older child to buy them. Also opens up the black market. Sunak has absolutely no idea how most people live!
Thank you great listening!
Nice to see Amy Gallagher on the show. Don't know why she sometimes looks nervous and out of sorts. She clearly has a spine of steel to have taken on the Tavistock, always seems to have sensible things to say and is there on merit...
On smoking: the taxation collected on tobacco products more than covers any healthcare costs (unlike obesity which is tax 'free'). I also consider that the smoking ban in pubs was the original test to see how Draconian the govt could be without any serious pushback. Why, oh, why, didn't they just dictate that there would be smoking and non-smoking pubs and restaurants? It was the thin edge of the totalitarianism wedge we are now witnessing, imo.
The Constitutional Court of Belgium put this belgic fanatics in their place. The High Courts are still reliable, mostly. We should use their wisdom more often. Everytime. There should be a foundation to help to finance this, for smaller organizations.
Dear Rafe
If lung cancer rates have barely changed since the 1990s despite smoking bans in public spaces and the dramatic fall in the numbers who smoke then where is the evidence for second-hand smoke causing cancer? One anecdote about Roy Castle is not evidence.
I saw a photograph of rafe when he was slim a few years ago ,he looks like a completely different man
Its one thing to give people a new start in a better Country but we are underestimating the dangers of also giving so easily the Right to Vote and worse still the Right to run for Public office while there is such an obvious lack of assimilation.
The smoking rule baffles me. Under 18s are currently banned but they still smoke! Has anyone under 18 been arrested for underage smoking? If kids can still get hold of smokes then adults will for sure.
vapes should be more thoroughly tested as there are a lot of chemicals in them, it's destroyed the pubs i used to go to they are all closed now, even the ones with beer gardens are gone.
Thank you NCF. Can I draw your attention to MP Andrew Rosindell who is speaking up for English/Christian heritage. "At a Westminster Hall debate on Easter and Christian Culture, Andrew spoke up on behalf of Christians and all those who value our Christian heritage, at a time where being a Christian is almost societally unacceptable. Andrew was grateful to Nick Fletcher M.P. for putting this debate forward, and was pleased to stand alongside so many colleagues in support of a tradition which has built our United Kingdom." He could be a good person to interview on one of your programmes.
Rafe 23:40 Roy Castle used to smoke cigars and cigarettes.
He would smoke if he turned up to assist with the Amersham Music Centre.
Many who have worked professionally with Roy witnessed him smoke...
he also used to smoke in some of the films he did.
Don't forget there was an EU member prime minister present.
The new NZ govt has changed the smoking law. We are so glad that Jacinda Ardern and Labour are out!
Ahh! Yes, Fribourg & Trever, we purchased them in the Haymarket on our way to the Tate whenever we caught the bus to town for a culture feast. I would occasionally indulge in a pipe for added pose factor 😂👏👌👍
The proposed smoking law will simply encourage those with an independent streak to confront the state and give it two fingers.
A new black market will develop.
The only argument with any weight is that many other consumer habits have been shown to be unhealthy and logically the same approach should be applied to them.
Suddenly we would find ourselves in a very strange place.
can you have a event in Newcastle please
Far Right is better than Far Wrong right ???
There is no difference between cigars and cigarettes in relation to health and second hand smoke
There is no secondary eating or drinking. Smokers seldom care about other people.