Under the conservatives we’ve had extreme increases in mass immigration, extreme increases in illegal immigration, increase in crime, defunding of public services, a total failure to flush out dead weight from public services, ‘wokism’ infiltrating all levels of public service and law, and so on. Everything that we’re told to fear under the Labour Party has and is happening under the Conservatives. Has anyone ever thought about why Labour very rarely offers any robust opposition in Parliament? Perhaps it is because they’re quite happy with how the Conservatives are running the show. A vote for the Conservatives at this point is a vote for Labour with a different colour rosette.
A vote for conservatives is a vote to be run by Policy Exchange and 5 more years of neoliberal trickle down cr*p Labour are completely different they've parachuted in Torsten Bell from Resolution Foundation
I have lots of respect for Peter Hitchens. But I disagree with him on this. The failures of the Conservatives should not be rewarded with another term of office. The Reform Party is the only logical way to vote for any self-respecting Conservative.
There is good reason to fear that as bad as the Tories are Labour may very well be a lot worse. If this were anything to a close run thing, I might even consider holding my nose and voting Tory, however little they deserve to govern. It is not, however, remotely a close thing. Labour are forming the next government, much though I dread the prospect. If there is one silver lining here, it is that we let our displeasure be known, and indicate that we want a MUCH more rightwing government that what we have received, without meaningfully increasing the likelihood of what is already a near certainty.
@@notalefty999 Indeed. Seats don't matter here (because it's unlikely Reform will gain many and be left with just 2 MPs- Farage and Anderson), it's the MESSAGING that matters. We need to tell the Tories what they need to do to get our votes back. I.e. Swing right. Back to where they came from. 😂
All the people I know who vote labour are well-off public employees with great pensions, ie doctors, teachers, council officials, etc. Those more right leaning are sole traders, small companies and ordinary self-reliant workers
The Labour Party has never ever been interested in the 'working class'. All the latter were was a power base and nothing more. Socialism is middle class politics at best.
I wish my town was offering the option of George Galloway Workers party! He truly represents my working class values! And before people start spouting about his speaking out on genocide let’s not forget that’s exactly what’s happening! I am a Christian, but in a democracy I advocate that all people have the fundamental right to worship or not worship any belief system that they choose, with the obvious exception of satanism (which increasingly appears to be the governing force of the elite) Fundamentalism within all religions is the extreme exception and should not be confused with peaceful worship of the many!
Many years ago, I often debated with Peter Hitchens. He was always forthright but polite. His Achile's heel is that he expresses opinions as if they were statements of fact. An Incorrigible habit. He remains, however, an acute observer of current affairs. Provocative, but never boring!
I agree about his "Achilles heel". There's something about his manner, his style of delivery, that is slightly unappealing. He comes across as a bit of a know-all, as being a bit peremptory. I imagine he would be a difficult man to work with, even if he were on your side. There'd be no room for negotiation or compromise - at least that's my impression, I could be wrong. Always interesting to listen to though.
@@mrwu2 That's not the same thing. Expressing opinions as facts is different from expressing opinions with the assumption they're correct. One is what they're expressed as and the other is the way in which they're expressed. A lot of people wouldn't think so but it makes a massive difference.
As a side note, maybe don't use the word UniParty to describe four different parties, oh wait you said you'll vote Reform, i'll restructure the comment so it translates: Oink, oink oink oink oink, oink oink, oink!
The truth does hurt .In your case this is just a tiny bit of what the Blair Government's achieved . Minimum wage Devolution Good Friday Agreement Civil Partnership Act Crime cut by 32% 14,000 more police 85,000 more nurses 32,000 more doctors One million pensioners lifted out of poverty Increased spending on the N.H.S.leadung to dramatic falls in waiting lists Winter fuel payment for pensioners Record levels of literacy and numeracy Etc etc etc The list is endless . Now list what 14 years of Tory mismanagement has achieved .
If anyone needed a clear picture of how right Hitchens was/is re Starmer Labour, this interview is it! He's probably the most knowledgable, intellegent, politically astute man in the country! And very well read and personally experienced in his earlier years of political involvements. He has my huge respect.
@@theverystones2643 Peter Hitchens was one of the very few who didn't lose their heads during covid. I'll be forever grateful for his stance during those two years.
I agree with Mr Hitchens, all of the people saying that Kier Starmer is a moderate is very foolish. I seem to hear this position from people both left and right.
Unfortunately I think that is true. A whole era, ushered in by Blair and his Liberal world order has to come crashing in on our heads before the Establishment will accept that we need to change direction. It's not going to be pretty, and smart politicians, if we had any, would head off the disaster before it happens, but while Europe turns Right, we turn Left. That is symptomatic of how this country rolls. Always out of step.
@@betcarbery46between native dissatisfaction and the increasing bullishness of the incomers a showdown is inevitable. 5 more years of horror under Labour will hurry this along. There aren’t curses strong enough for those who brought us to this and as a Christian I will not pray for their souls.
the uk birth rate is 1.56. That means our population is falling. We need 400k immigrants to come here each year just for the population to stand stll. We cant grow our economy with less and less people every year. Had you thought all that through?
The country is overpopulated, a reduction in population size is only a good thing. Endless growth bs. We need to figure out how to take care of old people. Importing the third world makes us all poorer, they ain’t going to pay your pension. It’s economic suicide. Not to mention cultural suicide. If we do need immigration it should be from culturally similar zones that can be easily integrated and unrecognisable within a few years. And quality over quantity like Boris promised. Cough bs. The young don’t want to have kids because they don’t see a future. We need to show them a country that they want to have kids in. I think we would save countless billions if we deported any foreigners here in social housing and benefits. If you’re not a net contributor then you shouldn’t be here. Period. 72% Somalian’s in social housing in London. What have any?
@@chad0x There's quite a few studies that point to over population having a negative impact on birthrate. Besides which a coffee coloured populace isn't worth a hapenny.
Sadly, Peter Hitchens is almost too well educated & well read, incredibly knowledgable of the history of British politics and of those who have a personal political history that if understood by the British population would never be elected no matter what label they wave. Without his significant knowledge and understanding, we the majority of GB will never elect a worthy party for government.... because there aren't any! Since WWI, the Aristocrats, wealthy land owners, historically rich families etc became the global billionaire class that has slowly taken control of British politics without us having a clue! In 2024, we are now seeing that truth with perpetual unchecked immigration, the destruction of British industries, the education system destroyed, the health care system and the nation's infrastructures destroyed, the police integrity destroyed and our system of law become unrecognizable and untrustworthy. Our nation has been sold out under our noses, true democracy has gone and what's left is just one step away from chaos!
I have to say that I enjoy listening to Hitchens, Starkey and Murray during these troubled times. In this way I can get my head right during all the nonsense.
@@TheLastSongbird124 Good post by the way. To see the destruction of the UK written out like this is heartbreaking. And this on the day we have a misogyny law with Andrew Tate, extremism and terrorism all thrown in for good luck in some sort of horrible, clumsy concoction. They are actually trying to fit laws around their own personal bllsh_t belief system. Unbelievable.
Vote Labour, don't just get Islam, but Islamism... I'll be voting Reform and hoping that they will be an efective opposition The Tory front benches are populated by a rabble of self serving, head in the sand anti intellectual politicos. They need to lose every seat
"Vote Labour, don't just get Islam, but Islamism' I have a feeling that it's not really about Labour anymore, on this issue, it's about whatever the British deep state apparatus desires. If they want an Islamic Britain, they'll get it regardless of who's in power. 60 years of third world immigration will change British society... and the Tories are just as responsible as labour for not stopping it.
I think this may have been our last chance. The 'Tories' have sealed our fate by doing it early. Labour will get in, as they have a cohesive voting block. They will import a lot more voters during the next 5 years, ensuring future victory. We are done. I'm going to vote reform but I fear that it will have no effect.
@@showyourworkingout2023 the tories are the ones allowing mass immigration, why are you suggesting you can see into the future and saying labour will let them in?
Vote for Reform if they don't have a realistic chance in your constituency, and you deserve the left wing radical government we get for 30 years. Stop being blinded by rage and think rationally.
At this point, it's also contradictory. He spent years calling for the Tories to be broken so that a real alternative could emerge and then when that chance comes along he changes his mind. He's a boomer who has gone soft in his twighlight.
@@14Anon2 you may be right, I have to believe that politics in the UK can be more than two tired old parties. Maybe Europe is finally signaling an alternative
Well I'm delighted that Reform UK is not Conservative, neither is it 'socialist Blairite' nor Trotskyist Labour. It offers a patriotic, nationalist vision, with the governance of the UK and its people by the people, and not in favour of a technocratic globalist managerial class. This is not nationalism based on collective socialism (Fascism), but on the individual and personal responsibility. Less (smaller) state, lower taxation, pro-entrepreneur, family, national security, border control, law and order. People will be encouraged to get on with their lives rather than 'big government' controlling and dictating every aspect of peoples' lives. The repeal of laws which promote identity politics! (everything since 1997)
Just word salad...socialism is not fascism. You want power to the people but that would mean increased spending on health, education and social support...higher taxes...wealth redistribution is required. Your trickle-down economics works for the rich only.
Whatever their failings Reform are the only viable alternative this time, and we're fast running out of time to stop the complete destruction of our country, both economic and demographic. The Tories offer nothing other than more of the same.
We all have to spread the word. ❤ locally. Reform UK. Workers Party is rising in the Midlands. Challenging labour specifically. So, if we get out there nxt week. Spread the word. Inform people locally. The more votes the harder the blow ❤ 👌💪👍🇬🇧🇺🇲
One can always rely on Peter Hitchens to suck the last drop of optimism out of you. His "we're doomed, we're doomed" attitude is not what is needed if we're to have any chance of making things better.
@hayleylongster4698 a streak? It's a full stratospheric layer. He famously is on twitter without following anyone - we are all here to bask in his wisdom. I agree that I quite admire him, he's extremely well informed and a good thinker, but his refusal to engage with others is one of the main reasons others don't engage with him, which he endlessly complains about profusely. I think he enjoys the 'I told you so' more than he enjoys preventing the problem.
@@davidrichardson5482 He engages in person. I've actually met him. I stomped right up to him, went off on one, and then he humoured me for over an hour and we argued prodigiously about many things. This was in my student days when I was 'left-wing' and totally deluded, and so wrong about most of those things. (And before you say it, I have a broad Yorkshire accent and despite being where I was, was clearly 'not from round there', as it were). He roundly crapped all over me of course, but was very nice about it. He then bought me a drink to reward me for my public evisceration 😂 So..... don't judge him merely on how he behaves on social meeds. He is a luddite far more suited to real conversation. Granted this was 20+ years ago, and he's older now and and far more black pilled.
@@davidrichardson5482I mean, I'm no Tommy Robsinson or anything but I was a pretty damn scrappy young woman, probably at that time somewhat akin to Jess Philips (but with way more brains) and he didn't just immediately tell me to f* off is what I'm saying here.
@@MocatafamulusdeSet You're welcome. Don't think that things won't get worse for you, too. I'm in a situation where nothing Labour do can hurt me, it's others I worry about.
As someone on the left I have no interest in the conservatives, dislike the reform party and I'm very underwhelmed by labour. It seems neither the left nor right are looking forward to a labour win, reform seems to be the only party people feel enthusiastic about which is sad to me.
Having listened to each party, read all the manifestos, I can safely say REFORM are the ONLY party that will make any difference for the good of our country. VOTE REFORM.
I agree with the title. Farage isn't what I want. Of what is on offer, I would probably prefer the SDP. I would vote Reform though because they may be able to bury the Conservative Party. That needs to happen so that it can either die or reform into something the majority of voters want to vote for, when it is honest about it's intentions. I have had enough of them talking as though they will reduced immigration while actively finding people who hate us and our way of life so that they can import them.
Democracy….. ahhh. Don’t you just LOVE IT ! ? A land where government DOES what the people actually WANT & NEED ! Oh dear…You NEVER had that mate. NEVER will. BECAUSE…You have the WRONG political system. Maybe it was a good idea 300 years ago, but not for today nor tomorrow. It generally attracts the wrong sort of people for a start!. I mean, just look at their schoolyard behaviour where “point scoring” put-downs of other elected members of parliament is considered a “win”! Essentially most of them are “bully salesmen” who try to persuade and bribe you, that ONLY THEIR ideas are great (vote for MEEEE). Sadly, ALL parties do the same - Was designed to be like that !! The notion that ALL the PEOPLE HAVE CLEAR NEEDS is not even considered!!. Another childhood dream is that “Competition” yields the best results! This has some truth, but only in the very short term!. COOPERATION YIELDS THE BEST CONTINUOUS SUSTAINABLE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST PROGRESS LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE Establish a national “Register of Visions” summarising the Will of the People. (Health, Housing, Education, Employment, Crime & Safety, Drugs, Immigration, Taxation, Societal Cohesion, Foreign Affairs, Welfare, Trade & Industry, etc etc ). A register Established at census time for each Voter - with real-time Web access for timely updates like Gaza, Ukraine etc etc ad nauseam. And don’t worry, AI will make short work of creating a succinct coherent unambiguous statement of requirements from the millions of Vision submissions! Certainly a BETTER WAY for the Nation. (Unless of course you are already part of the 1% thriving/thieving elite , then yes, you will experience a relative decline in your unwarranted privilege, decadence and legalised theft!). At the moment, China looks remarkably democratic when compared with you lot !
I agree. What I have seen of the SDP, which is rare, I have agreed with. I too will vote Reform as they are the best of a bad lot who stand a chance of being shaped into something.
Yes but I think a disaster is what we need. People are still too comfortable to recognise the desperate need for conservatism in this country. Once public sector workers start getting fired, they might realise the money to pay them comes from somewhere. -- Private sector taxes.
@@hayleylongster4698 Most of the private sector's profits come from public sector workers buying their products. Half of the GDP of the country is the public sector. You can't really believe that the private sector is the only part of the economy that produces anything of value, can you. That's simpleton thinking.
I think people are underestimating how many votes Reform will take from Labour. The Tories got an 80 majority as a result of Labour voters wanting Brexit to get done. I would take a guess that some, if not many of those voters will hand their vote to Farage and not Starmer
Labour also has a problem withthe Greens, George Galloways party and muslim independents running against them on the palestine issue. My bet is Labour will be the biggest party, but no overall majority. Very strong possibility it will be a hung parliament now Farage has galvanised the Reform vote.
What does it matter of these people do not go back to Labour, Labour are lapping up the middle ground which the Tories have kindly yielded to peruse the hard right voters. Its an unequivocal rule of British politics that whichever of the major two parties takes the middle ground wins the election. Thatcher took the centre while labour went to the left, Blair took the centre while the Tories went to the right and Cameron took the centre while labour went left again. Now the Tories are moving right and Labour will take the centre and thus win at least two solid elections before the cycle continues. Reform may usurp the Tories as the party of the right but unless they move to the centre they will simply remain opposition to labour. Unless of course PR is adopted in which case Reform could prove to be very powerful in future elections to the determent of the larger parties.
This is hilarious but I do find Hitchens quite hopeful, more so than most other pundits. He has hope outwith the political landscape, and perhaps even outwith humanity. He knows how corrupt man is - he lived it and came out the other side. If you don’t have hope that cannot be done.
Oh? yeah? It took 50 years of slogans, New Speak and incremental poverty, gradual lack of freedom…straight into a brick wall and implosion in 87-89. That's the natural path of any breed of socialism.
Good contribution from the man who guaranteed to us that Putin would not invade Ukraine, the day before Putin invaded Ukraine. "He's many things but he's not crazy", said Hitchens about Putin. That part is correct, he's not crazy, he's a sane, calculated, powerful leader, rebelling against creeping NATO-isation as he sees it (and he's right).
I tend to agree. Not very popular I know. But then what is popular seems to be waving flags of countries you couldn't point to on a map and impoverishing your own country with food and fuel inflation in the process so why try to be popular in this nuthouse of a country? Good comment.
WTF are you talking about? The former eastern bloc nations joined NATO willingly….. you are just parroting what Putin says. What does the world’s largest country, with the largest nuclear Arsenal, have to fear?
The Labour and Tory MPs refused to attend the commons debates on the excessive deaths of British citizens, a most important subject with speeches given delivered by Mr Andrew Bridgen to the house. These speeches can be viewed on RUclips and you will see the complete absence and disinterest displayed by both Labour and the Tory parties.
Exactly this! Here they are at election time pretending to care about everyone all the while ignoring and belittling someone who points out the thousands of extra people and in terms of the election, potential voters as cold as that might sound that are dying on a monthly basis compared to previous years. It is sickening. It is because they know they are guilty.
Vote Labour and get nationwide ULEZ/FMC, LGBTQ+ crèches, Sharia law, Lubjanka-style interrogation centres, Gulags, Khymer Rouge re-education camps... err.. oh no, I just shat myself!!
Well, it would certainly be a wake up call for complacent British Liberals who already, no joke, consider Rishi Sunak 'Far Right'. For the rest of us just the slight satisfaction of saying "I told you so".
IF you truly want to change Politics you have to stop using lies and bullshit, when you go down that road you end up being exactly the thing you are trying to change.
HItchens, on a fundamental level, believes this country is irreparably broken - and that it was broken a long time ago. In any interview, he'll be asked where it all went wrong, and he'll harrumph and say - "oh it was far earlier than x, y, z - it's all awful, I despair - and, dontcha know it, I was saying so at the time" (NB Hitchens is, according to himself, right about all things, always). He thinks that our joining WW2 wrecked us, and was essentially a mistake. Yes, it was the end of Empire - but I would argue it was also one of our foundational modern "myths" - we stood alone for years in the face of monstrous tyranny. If we had to go down, what a way to go! But Hitchens doesn't get that. He's not a patriot. I think that's the key thing - I never get the sense he actually even particularly likes this country. Maybe it's something he picked up from his days as a Trot. Hitchens wants us to vote tactically to avoid a Labour government. Why? To conserve what? According to Hitchens, in previous interviews, this country has gone to the dogs - there's precious little to "conserve", so why bother (by his own logic, I mean). I - and millions like me - believe we need a transformational (revolutionary) movement on the right in our politics - hence the need for Reform (or something stronger). Hitchens, it seems, just wants us to continue to ebb away, and "go quietly into that good night" - or that's certainly the way it seems. He has nothing useful to contribute to the truly conservative discourse anymore. He is a voice for quiet decline, and hoplessness. I have no issue with the New Culture Forum interviewing him (or anyone for that matter), but given that the NCF also want to shake up the right-wing of British politics - they're a campaign group after all - I wonder whether interviews with this curmudgeon during an election campaign do their cause more harm than good.
My impression was a defeatist negative man with no ideas reminiscing on the good times, and it is HIS generation that have completely let this Country down because they were all too busy living it up and nobody bothered to fight for what was right for the Country. Now my generation has to take up the mantle and put things right, he can F off back to America for all I care
Yes. This. I really do like Peter (I met him once and contrary to popular belief he is a very nice person who humoured a ranting student and even bought me a drink after he slayed me in a debate). BUT - he is not the person to interview about the future or strategy pertaining to it.
@hayleylongster4698 Oh shoot! The only guy who actually knows that the epicurian spirit of the modern 3rd world serviced oligarch run hedgefund with a bulgaria attached to it we call "Britain" can't be fixed with big slogans and an outnumbered 1 to 6 young native population who is the only speedbump against the ballooning of the managerial class? He knows the solution and he knows it absolutely well. Thing is it only involves iron and blood and you (literallly) have run out of production capacity of both and would crumble if you face reality. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Save your souls. Go to an orthodox church. You are so deep in managed decline that you worship NHS and drink contrarian "social reform" cool aid with a belief in the rightness of the ideas and badness of the execution of them as strong as a wall in GTA san andreas. Dissolve NHS Deregulate industry and construction and manufacturing and commerce of all kind Deport EVERYBODY Amend freedom of speech to the constitution Seperate church from the state Keep a military junta around for 5 years like under Cromwell Dismantle the house of the lords. Expand the parliament to represent all 100k people. Kill criminals who deserve it and jail up the rest Put up only a georgian land tax and a friedman positive tax for disabled folk and destroy the money printing shops. Tie debt to budget and election eligibility. Stop social security. Finito. In 5 years Britain will be better.
Exactly. That is what it. Especially as what Hitchens himself has said that the Tory party accepted the Blair agenda after Michael Howard became leader, and Cameron claimed to be : "the heir to Blair".
True - the most shocking thing is that Obama the Destroyer visited Sunak at No 10 and we STILL do not know what was discussed. For that reason - I would never ever vote Tory. Apart from their cowardice and betrayal of everything I stand for. We are voting REFORM.
Yes since Cameron. If the people of the UK knowingly choose red instead of blue just because they are sick of the sight of the Blairite Tories then they deserve what’s coming, and that is a nightmare that pushes the globalist elites One World Government agenda. The UK, as with the West entire, urgently needs a new politics that refocused on long held Western values and roots out the OWG cultists. While other countries have a credible opposition that could lead this vital resistance to the OWG elites Britain does not. Therefore only a protest vote for 2:08 Reform or “none of the above” will do. The choice is between Labour disaster or Tory continuation of the OWG control or neither. If you don’t choose neither you will only have yourself to blame for what comes next…
I think the problem most labour supporters have with Starmer is that he is not a far left Trotskyist. What a fool this guy is. Well spoken. Educated. Cultured. Talks crap all the time.
Apart from his total aversion to more liberal social policy (hence his ridiculous criticism of Farage's stance marijuana), PH is not so much a conservative as a controversialist / self styled iconoclast who will say anything to occupy his strange, neither A nor B (not C either thanks) approach to politics and life.
Perhaps this country shouldn’t have been involved in so many disastrous wars such as in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria,, Libya to name a few that have caused so much instability and created so many refugees and asylum seekers.
Five and a half thousand people have viewed this, listened to a man who understands socialism, communism better than practically anyone else having lived in the old Soviet Union. Is it any wonder the public are politically illiterate, and will ultimately learn that's not a good talent to possess.
I would even call Truss a neo-liberal(Thatcher and Reagan were) - she is a Blairite, much like Sunak, Cameron, Rory Stewart, the Miliband brothers, Starmer,, May, Clegg, Heseltine, Ken Clarke, etc. It's that globalist consensus : globalised economy, globalised government, mass movement of labour, common purpose training, etc.
@@JollyGraham And voting Labour, with their Pandora's box of poisonous social policies is preferable to Reform? Are you mad. You want an anti Islam Law? You want women to start losing their rights and having to cover their hair in public? That's preferable to Reform? You must be clinically mad.
@@JollyGraham I'll bite. HItchens, on a fundamental level, believes this country is fundamentally broken - and that it was broken a long time ago. In any interview, he'll be asked where it all went wrong, and he'll harrumph and say - "oh it was far earlier than x, y, z - it's all awful, I despair - and, dontcha know it, I was saying so at the time" (NB Hitchens is, according to himself, right about all things, always). He thinks that our joining WW2 wrecked us, and was essentially a mistake. Yes, it was the end of Empire - but I would argue it was also one of foundational modern "myths" - we stood *alone for years* in the face of monstrous tyranny. If we had to go down, what a way to go! But Hitchens doesn't *get* that. He's not a patriot. I think that's the key thing - I never get the sense he actually even particularly *likes* this country. Maybe it's something he picked up from his days as a Trot. Hitchens wants us to vote tactically to avoid a Labour government. Why? To conserve what? According to Hitchens, in previous interviews, this country has gone to the dogs - there's precious little to "conserve", so why bother? I - and millions like me - believe we need a transformational (revolutionary) movement on the right in our politics - hence the need for Reform (or something stronger). Hitchens, it seems, just wants us to continue to ebb away, and "go quietly into that good night" - or that's certainly the way it seems. He has nothing useful to contribute to the truly conservative discourse anymore. I have no issue with the New Culture Forum interviewing him (or anyone), but given that the NCF also want to shake up the right-wing of British politics, I wonder whether interviews with this curmudgeon during an election campaign do their cause more harm than good.
Voting Reform is the only answer. I’m sick of tactical voting. Time for people to stand up. I was despondent at the beginning but as you talked about the polls means Reform could be 30/40%
I shall vote for the Reform candidate. My heart is leading me: I feel very much more inclined to vote FOR a principle rather than AGAINST a principle. I am English first and foremost. If the very deep and complex implications of that are not understood, or are willfully misinterpreted as racist or xenophobic, that is the end of any further meaningful conversation. That was an interesting discussion about oppression of the family by the state. It makes me reflect upon my own family situation.
Hitchens needs to define British Conservatism. Its all very well, saying "no they arent and they are this" but what exactly do you think British Conservatism is ? Being Conservative isnt exactly the same as being Politically Conservative either.
@@hayleylongster4698 but politically surely two things would be "small gov, low taxes"? Very distinctive because those in themselves would prevent the State from changing society in specific ways. Clearly changing laws would be a 'cheap' way with no requirement for taxes or large gov but that would be restricted another way
@@evolassunglasses4673 Enough with the calls for Revolution!! that has never blessed a nation. We will see what happens on the 4th July, I will not stop hoping and praying that England is saved from the disaster of Labour. ➡
"would be"? _WILL be_ Most people in this country have no idea what they're doing, and will vote for Labour simply because they want an extra £24 in their pockets.
Farage doesn't come up with solutions for anything. All he does is wreck things, never offering anything remotely constructive. Don't be taken in by the false charm and pint of beer. Man of the people? Yeah right.
Do you really think Starmer will set up Killing Fields to mass-murder anyone who shows a hint of intellectualism? The Khmer Rouge killed people in the basis of needing to wear glasses, *just in case* they were intellectuals.
Hitler and Mussolini claimed they were socialist for clout, before pulling their ultra-right-wing authoritarian crap out of the bag. Nothing about what they bought to their respective countries reflected the ideas of socialism. Neither did communism for that matter. I'm more an economic centralist myself, but a socialist overall is soft-left: it's about spending more on welfare, healthcare and education, not about taking over in a coup and murdering political opponents. While I personally don't think socialism is what we need now, it's worth accurately understanding it. Remember that it was a socialist labour government which founded the NHS.
Seeing the back of the Tories delights me. Seeing Labour replace them terrifies me. Reform's getting my X. It won't prevent a Labour win but the smaller their majority the less power they will yield.
It doesn't matter what political direction Reform leans in. The vitally important thing is to break the LabCon stranglehold on politics. Once LabCon is vanquished we can rebuild the political system. This is a long term struggle which will require long term strategy.
Peter Hitchens is always interesting to listen to. However, unless anyone has been on holiday in McMurdo Sound in a wooden hut, all intelligent people know the hopelessness of the ‘conservatives’ and the absolute disaster our wonderful country shall experience if that idiot Stammer gets control. I hope against hope that as many as possible VOTE rather than giving up and sitting at home. Just over 60% of the electorate stayed at home in the recent Rochdale by-election - and look at the result!!!
@@shabbos-goy9407 nonsense. Spain lived under Islamic rule for centuries and still turned it around. The Anglo needs to become revolutionary. Nothing less It's still very much game on.
If you vote Labour we will have a Muslim Kalifate. Labour will also have open borders. REFORM IS THE ONLY WAY TO VOTE FOR BRITISH PATRIOTS. Don't let Reform down. GO OUT ON 4TH JULY AND VOTE REFORM.
@@nicholashill9302 a British patriot doesn't shove the Palestine and Hamas flag in your face in our capital city. Nor do they spit on the Cenotaph or other revered monuments. Wonder what group of people do that. Hmmmm let me think now.
No not an Islamic nightmare, although that may be a stepping stone. Yes since Cameron. If the people of the UK knowingly choose red instead of blue just because they are sick of the sight of the Blairite Tories then they deserve what’s coming, and that is a nightmare that pushes the globalist elites One World Government agenda. The UK, as with the West entire, urgently needs a new politics that refocused on long held Western values and roots out the OWG cultists. While other countries have a credible opposition that could lead this vital resistance to the OWG elites Britain does not. Therefore only a protest vote for Reform or “none of the above” will do. The choice is between Labour disaster or Tory continuation of the OWG control or neither. If you don’t choose neither you will only have yourself to blame for what comes next…
We've had decades of decadence under both Labour and the Conservatives. There is zero evidence that either of these parties are going to buck their ideas up and start listening to what people want. I've read the 2024 Reform Party “Contract” and that's why they get my vote.
I'm most definitely voting Reform! No other choice in my opinion, if we want to keep Britain British and stay out of the EU. Tories are done, Labour will lead us back to Europe and look what's happening there! Why would you want to return to a failing union!!
Anyone that has lived through the past 5-6 Labour governments knows exactly what it is like. The country is left in a far more dire condition, broke, bankrupt and unions demolishing jobs with their Marxist rhetoric. The Labour governments are easy at giving out more money that isn't there. The recent Tories have been a shambles and dire, but until one experiences a couple of Labour governments , the Tories will look like a walk in the park. The younger people haven't tried the dourness that Labour brings, they have been brainwashed with lefty teachers and Universitie Marxist ideals. If there is a God... Then God help Britain with the likes of Starmer and his fish wife side kick, Rayner! Be careful what you wish for, it can only get WORSE!!
Exactly. We need Labour to trash the country even more than it is in order for young people to realise they aren't the Saintly Answer To Everything that they have been billed as (by the people who have brainwashed them for the last decade).
You absolute fraggle. I have lived under A Labour government and life in general was so much better. Better NHS, better Roads, the country nowhere near as divided. The Tories have hollowed out this country to give to the rich.
Peter is correct about many things, but if you're going to defend the two party system, as he does, you can't complain if that dynamic creates a Trump or a Farage. These candidates are the _outcome_ of the system, and perhaps in an ideal world there would be a traditional Conservative to vote for, but we only have Nigel to fight for some kind of change. So rather than sneer at him I think Peter needs to be a bit more positive about someone who, at least, represents a clear step away from Starmer and the potential horrors hidden away in his Pandora's box of political and social policies.
FPTP is no longer fit for purpose, but neither is proportional representation that Reform and Farage have been flirting with. What we actually need is more accountability of all MPs and civil service bureaucrats. For this to happen, we need the electorate to be more engaged in local and national politics. For this to happen we need Direct Democracy, similar to the swiss system. We also need a separation of powers between the government (cabinet) and sitting govenrment mps, so they can no longer force mps to vote via whips and more in line with the interests of their constituency, than the party. Direct Democracy is real democracy. Representative Democracy is not democracy when the representatives have little accountablity to the voters who put them in every 5 years.
Wow, I've just been reading through the comments, and all the support for Reform! I have trouble computing just how anyone can have lived through the past 10 years in the UK, with Brexit and the utter disgrace of what the Tory party has now become. And still, be so gaslit that you'd think any of our problems can be solved by MORE populism, it's just bonkers.
I'm not British but I keep hearing Brexit was a terrible mistake. Certainly fairly grim in the short term, and the EU was spiteful about the UK leaving, which made it worse. But the bad things about the EU which motivated Brexit have not changed and in some ways are getting worse. Member states are at risk of becoming constituencies of Brussels. Italy has reduced its debt from a colossal 155% of GDP in 2020 but is still alarmingly unhealthy at 137%. However the reduction was achieved by "robust inflation", which increased nominal GDP, not by meaningful growth. The point is that if a bailout by the EU is required, it will be at least 10 times as damaging as the Greek bailout. It's fair to say that this remains a definite possibility, for which the UK is no longer on the hook. This could become a big advantage, we just don't know yet.
Hi @@johndalzell904 Well that is the narative spun by the tabloids and commentators who promoted Brexit, I'm skeptical given that the UK government own total incompetence and gross dishonestly. I think that fact that it has gone so badly is down to the fact that the UK government didn't seem understanding what the EU is, what the UK was supposed to achieve by leaving and the practical implications of that would be. I think they we either so gaslit by the UK tabloids and the Tufton Street set or too stupid that they had never actually stopped to think about whether their ideas about what the UK's relationship with the EU actually was or what Brexit many were in anyway based in reality. Johnson kicking out all of the people within his party who were both smart enough to see what was happening and too honest to go along with it left us with a super majority of some of the most stupid and the dishonest people who have ever graced UK politics. I think this combined with the narcissism and infighting of factions within the Tory party and the a gasoline poured on it by the Tabliods and Tufton Street plants in the UK media is responsible for the absolute skip fire Brexit has turned out to be. What way do you think the the EU spiteful?
I am 69 . I may well die in the next five years . I am somewhat depressed to realize that if Labour wins this election then the country i love will have the worse government in British democratic history. In fact what is left of the Britain we knew will finally go I am centre left on many social issues and am naturally a supporter of the Labour Party . When i say Labour Party i mean the one that used to represent working class people . This new version of the Labour Party hates working class people . I have heard middle class Labour Party members say that working class people shouldnt be allowed to vote !!! I am so pleased that my righteous working class parents , who used to put on their sunday best to vote Labour , are no longer around to see what has happened to this country. Farewell Britannia . You were never perfect but you aspired to be so . ✌️🇬🇧
@@daikucoffee5316Oh well, you won’t live as long as him. The west especially is up to something, and it probably is authoritarianism in part because it’s needed to survive civilisation collapse which is forecast to happen, and soon. And people like you? You’re being played. It happens… loads of Germans did what they did even though, it was not ultimately, in their best interests. They lost their homes, fathers, brothers, some mothers, sisters, many their own lives or arms, legs etc. In short, they were played too. That’s you, but when you’ll realise it we can but wait and see. I sometimes think some will never ever wake up.
Peter Hitchens would you stop shitting on everything for one second PLEASE. This is the first time in my lifetime that conservatism has any momentum, so what if it isn't perfect? Give a young man some hope
@@golfbulldog They can and should be one and the same. We just need to go back to a traditional form of conservatism. Not this Children of Blair 'centrist' bollocks.
Denethor Hitchens can't expect people to follow his political prescriptions given his long history of defeatism and consistent message of 'It's Over. Flee'' Lugubriousness does not engender loyalty or enthusiasm
Hitchens' ilk will tell us to flee, and flee, and flee until we're all on an island in the Pacific surrounded by invaders and nowhere to flee to. And they will still be smug and self-congratulatory about it.
@markpower. 100% right. This Hitchens was the dunce of the family. His estranged brother Christopher was the star. - an intellectual giant. We miss him still.
A successful and visible Reform party will keep important topics under discussion, which is vital… even as a third party. The Tories cannot win. Voting for more ‘broad church’/centrist Tories will just give us a Labour-lite nodding shop of an opposition.
The new Farage, now brave enough to talk about Islam and its deficiencies, getting into parliament with 10- 20 MPs would be a useful start. Why Farage never supported Gerard Batten over his criticisms of Islam still worries me.
Am I the only one who has the feeling we are witnessing something akin to bullying against Sunak? The troubles we have today have a footprint going back a lot longer than 14 years and BTW, Sunak wasn't on the scene for most of it. Neither were the Conservatives for that matter. That said, if there is a Reform candidate on my poll card they get my vote even though where I live Labour are likely to walk it. Peter Hitchens has a great talent for analysing political matters and I respect him greatly.
There are no longer any conservative Parties in the UK. But what other choice do we have? We either don't vote at all or we vote for Reform. At least Farage is standing against mass immigration, particularly of those who don't share, and even want to destroy, our values.
At the moment perhaps the only thing we can look forward to is Mr. Hitchens telling us "I told you so". Perhaps, we should listen to Peter Hitchens this time. If we don't will you please invite him on again, once the disasters of the new government unfold?
I suspect the same is happening now, with regards to huge swathes of people refusing to say who they'll vote for. By reliance on Internet polling, the polsters may well be excluding huge numbers from the very demographic that votes most- seniors.
Under the conservatives we’ve had extreme increases in mass immigration, extreme increases in illegal immigration, increase in crime, defunding of public services, a total failure to flush out dead weight from public services, ‘wokism’ infiltrating all levels of public service and law, and so on. Everything that we’re told to fear under the Labour Party has and is happening under the Conservatives.
Has anyone ever thought about why Labour very rarely offers any robust opposition in Parliament? Perhaps it is because they’re quite happy with how the Conservatives are running the show.
A vote for the Conservatives at this point is a vote for Labour with a different colour rosette.
You’re 100% correct.
The self-serving, elitist Marxists have infiltrated the Conservative Party.
Vote Reform Party!
A vote for conservatives is a vote to be run by Policy Exchange and 5 more years of neoliberal trickle down cr*p
Labour are completely different they've parachuted in Torsten Bell from Resolution Foundation
Precisely!
Yes, Peter Hitchens is a fake who pretends and tries to look like an intellectual but isn't one in any shape or form.
Straw man. "Labour very rarely offers any robust opposition" utter nonsense.
I have lots of respect for Peter Hitchens. But I disagree with him on this. The failures of the Conservatives should not be rewarded with another term of office. The Reform Party is the only logical way to vote for any self-respecting Conservative.
There is good reason to fear that as bad as the Tories are Labour may very well be a lot worse. If this were anything to a close run thing, I might even consider holding my nose and voting Tory, however little they deserve to govern.
It is not, however, remotely a close thing. Labour are forming the next government, much though I dread the prospect. If there is one silver lining here, it is that we let our displeasure be known, and indicate that we want a MUCH more rightwing government that what we have received, without meaningfully increasing the likelihood of what is already a near certainty.
He's attempting to avoid being *blamed* for the s****show which will surely follow when Lab surge into power, and the Cons collapse.
He's attempting to avoid being *blamed* for the s***show which will surely follow when Lab surges into power, and the Cons collapse.
Exactly.
@@notalefty999 Indeed. Seats don't matter here (because it's unlikely Reform will gain many and be left with just 2 MPs- Farage and Anderson), it's the MESSAGING that matters.
We need to tell the Tories what they need to do to get our votes back. I.e. Swing right. Back to where they came from. 😂
The Labour Party now has a 75% middle class membership, and has no interest in the majority views of working class people.
All the people I know who vote labour are well-off public employees with great pensions, ie doctors, teachers, council officials, etc. Those more right leaning are sole traders, small companies and ordinary self-reliant workers
The Labour Party has never ever been interested in the 'working class'. All the latter were was a power base and nothing more. Socialism is middle class politics at best.
@@betcarbery46 I have never ever met a true working class socialist.
I wish my town was offering the option of George Galloway Workers party!
He truly represents my working class values!
And before people start spouting about his speaking out on genocide let’s not forget that’s exactly what’s happening!
I am a Christian, but in a democracy I advocate that all people have the fundamental right to worship or not worship any belief system that they choose, with the obvious exception of satanism (which increasingly appears to be the governing force of the elite)
Fundamentalism within all religions is the extreme exception and should not be confused with peaceful worship of the many!
@@EvaHopper-ul5vuare you a practicing Christian?
How right he was,
Reform are the only party ready to tackle immigration - my biggest concern currently.
But Reform have no policies - just sound bites
After Starmers first few feeds I hope REFORM soon get their act together !!
Many years ago, I often debated with Peter Hitchens. He was always forthright but polite. His Achile's heel is that he expresses opinions as if they were statements of fact. An Incorrigible habit.
He remains, however, an acute observer of current affairs. Provocative, but never boring!
I agree about his "Achilles heel". There's something about his manner, his style of delivery, that is slightly unappealing. He comes across as a bit of a know-all, as being a bit peremptory. I imagine he would be a difficult man to work with, even if he were on your side. There'd be no room for negotiation or compromise - at least that's my impression, I could be wrong. Always interesting to listen to though.
Doesn't everyone do that? Express their opinions as If they are correct?
@@willardsheen981 That's because he is a grandiose, self- righteous narcissist.
Spot on! If people didn't state opinions as facts I think that one change alone would make politics far more pleasant.
@@mrwu2 That's not the same thing. Expressing opinions as facts is different from expressing opinions with the assumption they're correct. One is what they're expressed as and the other is the way in which they're expressed. A lot of people wouldn't think so but it makes a massive difference.
Nigel Farage and the Reform UK party is the only Non-LibLabGreenCon UniParty game in town. I will NEVER EVER vote for the CONservative party again.
Same, no more Tory tricks.
As a side note, maybe don't use the word UniParty to describe four different parties, oh wait you said you'll vote Reform, i'll restructure the comment so it translates:
Oink, oink oink oink oink, oink oink, oink!
Me too.
Only brainwashed fools would vote reform
Name one Reform Policy?
Blair was the catastrophe. Everything since is just circling the drain
An excellent metaphor! (There may be trouble ahead...but it is no time for dancing...)
Every PM since Blair has been worse than the last.
perfect quote
Thatcher was really the catastrophe, everything since then has been a legacy of her ideology!
The truth does hurt .In your case this is just a tiny bit of what the Blair Government's achieved .
Minimum wage
Devolution
Good Friday Agreement
Civil Partnership Act
Crime cut by 32%
14,000 more police
85,000 more nurses
32,000 more doctors
One million pensioners lifted out of poverty
Increased spending on the N.H.S.leadung to dramatic falls in waiting lists
Winter fuel payment for pensioners
Record levels of literacy and numeracy
Etc etc etc
The list is endless .
Now list what 14 years of Tory mismanagement has achieved .
If anyone needed a clear picture of how right Hitchens
was/is re Starmer Labour, this interview is it!
He's probably the most knowledgable, intellegent, politically astute
man in the country! And very well read and personally
experienced in his earlier years of political involvements.
He has my huge respect.
Listening to Peter Hitchens is so depressing! Vote Reform UK that will at least give us some hope.
He’s an old fart without any hope. Vote reform
But Reform has no policies
Reform is a pile of crap and have no policies. Hitchens has lost it, if he thinks the tories, shouldn't be ousted
Reform needs to get enough votes to hold the balance of power.
@@theverystones2643 Peter Hitchens was one of the very few who didn't lose their heads during covid. I'll be forever grateful for his stance during those two years.
I agree with Mr Hitchens, all of the people saying that Kier Starmer is a moderate is very foolish. I seem to hear this position from people both left and right.
We as a country have to hit rock-bottom before anything will change. History repeating itself yet again.
Unfortunately I think that is true. A whole era, ushered in by Blair and his Liberal world order has to come crashing in on our heads before the Establishment will accept that we need to change direction. It's not going to be pretty, and smart politicians, if we had any, would head off the disaster before it happens, but while Europe turns Right, we turn Left. That is symptomatic of how this country rolls. Always out of step.
Totally agree
Vote reform, Sharia will ensure you never get back up.
I agree and we've a bit to go before we hit the bottom but there is the danger that we may never rise up again nor even want to
@@betcarbery46between native dissatisfaction and the increasing bullishness of the incomers a showdown is inevitable. 5 more years of horror under Labour will hurry this along. There aren’t curses strong enough for those who brought us to this and as a Christian I will not pray for their souls.
Vote Farage, vote Reform. Ending the constant flood of mass immigration is the number one issue in this GE.
the uk birth rate is 1.56. That means our population is falling. We need 400k immigrants to come here each year just for the population to stand stll. We cant grow our economy with less and less people every year. Had you thought all that through?
The country is overpopulated, a reduction in population size is only a good thing. Endless growth bs. We need to figure out how to take care of old people. Importing the third world makes us all poorer, they ain’t going to pay your pension. It’s economic suicide. Not to mention cultural suicide. If we do need immigration it should be from culturally similar zones that can be easily integrated and unrecognisable within a few years. And quality over quantity like Boris promised. Cough bs.
The young don’t want to have kids because they don’t see a future. We need to show them a country that they want to have kids in.
I think we would save countless billions if we deported any foreigners here in social housing and benefits.
If you’re not a net contributor then you shouldn’t be here. Period.
72% Somalian’s in social housing in London. What have any?
@chad0x we don't need to keep the population at the same levels. We could do with fewer people, and a much lower population density.
@@chad0x There's quite a few studies that point to over population having a negative impact on birthrate.
Besides which a coffee coloured populace isn't worth a hapenny.
Vote farage, and vote reform aren't the same thing.
Sadly, Peter Hitchens is almost too well educated & well read,
incredibly knowledgable of the history of British politics
and of those who have a personal political history that if
understood by the British population would never be elected
no matter what label they wave.
Without his significant knowledge and understanding, we the
majority of GB will never elect a worthy party for government....
because there aren't any! Since WWI, the Aristocrats, wealthy land
owners, historically rich families etc became the global billionaire
class that has slowly taken control of British politics without us
having a clue! In 2024, we are now seeing that truth with perpetual
unchecked immigration, the destruction of British industries,
the education system destroyed, the health care system and the nation's
infrastructures destroyed, the police integrity destroyed and our system
of law become unrecognizable and untrustworthy.
Our nation has been sold out under our noses, true democracy has
gone and what's left is just one step away from chaos!
I have to say that I enjoy listening to Hitchens, Starkey and Murray during these troubled times. In this way I can get my head right during all the nonsense.
@@williamweb9782 yes, 3 intelligent and sane, rational people....a rare type these days :)
@@TheLastSongbird124
Good post by the way. To see the destruction of the UK written out like this is heartbreaking. And this on the day we have a misogyny law with Andrew Tate, extremism and terrorism all thrown in for good luck in some sort of horrible, clumsy concoction. They are actually trying to fit laws around their own personal bllsh_t belief system. Unbelievable.
@@TheLastSongbird124
My comment was taken down. Best wishes.
@@williamweb9782 your little story is becoming a daily thing eh! Tells its own story ?
Vote Labour, don't just get Islam, but Islamism... I'll be voting Reform and hoping that they will be an efective opposition The Tory front benches are populated by a rabble of self serving, head in the sand anti intellectual politicos. They need to lose every seat
"Vote Labour, don't just get Islam, but Islamism'
I have a feeling that it's not really about Labour anymore, on this issue, it's about whatever the British deep state apparatus desires. If they want an Islamic Britain, they'll get it regardless of who's in power. 60 years of third world immigration will change British society... and the Tories are just as responsible as labour for not stopping it.
To form an opposition you have to have mps and the system is stacked in favour of the established parties
I think this may have been our last chance. The 'Tories' have sealed our fate by doing it early. Labour will get in, as they have a cohesive voting block. They will import a lot more voters during the next 5 years, ensuring future victory. We are done. I'm going to vote reform but I fear that it will have no effect.
@@showyourworkingout2023 the tories are the ones allowing mass immigration, why are you suggesting you can see into the future and saying labour will let them in?
@@fatbelly27 it's time we broke it
Vote for any of the established parties and you will get exactly what you deserve over the next 5-10 years.
Not if vote Labour
@@jamesmccaul2945 Defeatist = traitor
And as usual you people that spout this never ever put forward any realistic alternatives.
@@jamesmccaul2945 If people wake up quickly that may not happen
Vote for Reform if they don't have a realistic chance in your constituency, and you deserve the left wing radical government we get for 30 years. Stop being blinded by rage and think rationally.
I always find Peter Hitchens analysis fascinating, but also so, so depressing...
At this point, it's also contradictory. He spent years calling for the Tories to be broken so that a real alternative could emerge and then when that chance comes along he changes his mind. He's a boomer who has gone soft in his twighlight.
@@14Anon2 you may be right, I have to believe that politics in the UK can be more than two tired old parties. Maybe Europe is finally signaling an alternative
Get out and vote Reform..
Reform are very popular with nutters.
Stop the WEF !
Well I'm delighted that Reform UK is not Conservative, neither is it 'socialist Blairite' nor Trotskyist Labour. It offers a patriotic, nationalist vision, with the governance of the UK and its people by the people, and not in favour of a technocratic globalist managerial class. This is not nationalism based on collective socialism (Fascism), but on the individual and personal responsibility. Less (smaller) state, lower taxation, pro-entrepreneur, family, national security, border control, law and order. People will be encouraged to get on with their lives rather than 'big government' controlling and dictating every aspect of peoples' lives. The repeal of laws which promote identity politics! (everything since 1997)
I agree, less Neo liberalism and more libertarian.
Even if it is redolent of Thatcherism, that was a time when the economy was buoyant. That in itself would be a step forward from where we are now.
It remains to be seen about Reform and Farage. Farage is anti working class
Just word salad...socialism is not fascism. You want power to the people but that would mean increased spending on health, education and social support...higher taxes...wealth redistribution is required. Your trickle-down economics works for the rich only.
The UK is one of the most unequal economies in Europe...no evidence reform will address this inequality.
Whatever their failings Reform are the only viable alternative this time, and we're fast running out of time to stop the complete destruction of our country, both economic and demographic.
The Tories offer nothing other than more of the same.
People like you are why democracy is stupid
Agree. We really must take a (giant ) leap of faith and vote in Reform .
100%
We all have to spread the word. ❤ locally. Reform UK. Workers Party is rising in the Midlands. Challenging labour specifically. So, if we get out there nxt week. Spread the word. Inform people locally. The more votes the harder the blow ❤ 👌💪👍🇬🇧🇺🇲
@@mjones4083spread the word ❤
Vote Reform!
Vote against Labour, vote against Tory!
& vote Reform .It really is that simple to solve - as many problems are.
@@mjones4083 You dont mind a possible con man who was going to work for donald trump until the guilty verdicts came down?
@@mjones4083Farage is a chancer who thinks Trump is great. That's a reason NOT to vote Reform right there.
@@michaeladkins6 Ever heard the phrase "best of a bad lot"?
@@michaeladkins6 We just need to vote for anyone BUT the mainstream parties, who all DESPISE the ordinary working man.
Reform might have faults. But let's not forget what the other parties offered and have given us for decades. So let's give reform a try.
Let’s give the party with no policies a try? That is true nihilism or a turn away from politics to simplistic slogans
One can always rely on Peter Hitchens to suck the last drop of optimism out of you. His "we're doomed, we're doomed" attitude is not what is needed if we're to have any chance of making things better.
but there is no chance to make things better. Peter did his best to sound the alarm 30 years ago when we did have a chance to repair but we didn't
@@sputnik1315 Bollocks.
@@sputnik1315I'd change that to there is no chance without a drastic change in how the UK sees itself.
His criticism of the way people treated him and his message is exactly the way he treats Tommy Robinson.
Indeed.
I admire Peter greatly but there is a streak of snobbery in him that I don't admire at all.
@hayleylongster4698 a streak? It's a full stratospheric layer. He famously is on twitter without following anyone - we are all here to bask in his wisdom.
I agree that I quite admire him, he's extremely well informed and a good thinker, but his refusal to engage with others is one of the main reasons others don't engage with him, which he endlessly complains about profusely.
I think he enjoys the 'I told you so' more than he enjoys preventing the problem.
Hitchens is a containment operation now
@@davidrichardson5482 He engages in person.
I've actually met him. I stomped right up to him, went off on one, and then he humoured me for over an hour and we argued prodigiously about many things. This was in my student days when I was 'left-wing' and totally deluded, and so wrong about most of those things. (And before you say it, I have a broad Yorkshire accent and despite being where I was, was clearly 'not from round there', as it were). He roundly crapped all over me of course, but was very nice about it.
He then bought me a drink to reward me for my public evisceration 😂
So..... don't judge him merely on how he behaves on social meeds. He is a luddite far more suited to real conversation. Granted this was 20+ years ago, and he's older now and and far more black pilled.
@@davidrichardson5482I mean, I'm no Tommy Robsinson or anything but I was a pretty damn scrappy young woman, probably at that time somewhat akin to Jess Philips (but with way more brains) and he didn't just immediately tell me to f* off is what I'm saying here.
I'm voting for Reform UK 🇬🇧
Have you really thought that decision through?
Thank you for voting Labour! 🤣
@@Robert-nr7ko
You will suffer too, but you're too asleep to see it - yet.
@@MocatafamulusdeSet
You're welcome. Don't think that things won't get worse for you, too. I'm in a situation where nothing Labour do can hurt me, it's others I worry about.
@@christinalayzelle832 You voted Reform and also claim that you care about other people? 🤣🤣🤣
As someone on the left I have no interest in the conservatives, dislike the reform party and I'm very underwhelmed by labour. It seems neither the left nor right are looking forward to a labour win, reform seems to be the only party people feel enthusiastic about which is sad to me.
James O'Brien's going to be insufferable if Labour get in, even more than he is now. VOTE REFORM, it truly is the only way forward.
Having listened to each party, read all the manifestos, I can safely say REFORM are the ONLY party that will make any difference for the good of our country. VOTE REFORM.
I agree with the title. Farage isn't what I want. Of what is on offer, I would probably prefer the SDP. I would vote Reform though because they may be able to bury the Conservative Party. That needs to happen so that it can either die or reform into something the majority of voters want to vote for, when it is honest about it's intentions. I have had enough of them talking as though they will reduced immigration while actively finding people who hate us and our way of life so that they can import them.
Democracy….. ahhh. Don’t you just LOVE IT ! ? A land where government DOES what the people actually WANT & NEED ! Oh dear…You NEVER had that mate. NEVER will. BECAUSE…You have the WRONG political system. Maybe it was a good idea 300 years ago, but not for today nor tomorrow. It generally attracts the wrong sort of people for a start!. I mean, just look at their schoolyard behaviour where “point scoring” put-downs of other elected members of parliament is considered a “win”! Essentially most of them are “bully salesmen” who try to persuade and bribe you, that ONLY THEIR ideas are great (vote for MEEEE). Sadly, ALL parties do the same - Was designed to be like that !! The notion that ALL the PEOPLE HAVE CLEAR NEEDS is not even considered!!. Another childhood dream is that “Competition” yields the best results! This has some truth, but only in the very short term!. COOPERATION YIELDS THE BEST CONTINUOUS SUSTAINABLE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST PROGRESS LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
Establish a national “Register of Visions” summarising the Will of the People. (Health, Housing, Education, Employment, Crime & Safety, Drugs, Immigration, Taxation, Societal Cohesion, Foreign Affairs, Welfare, Trade & Industry, etc etc ). A register Established at census time for each Voter - with real-time Web access for timely updates like Gaza, Ukraine etc etc ad nauseam. And don’t worry, AI will make short work of creating a succinct coherent unambiguous statement of requirements from the millions of Vision submissions! Certainly a BETTER WAY for the Nation. (Unless of course you are already part of the 1% thriving/thieving elite , then yes, you will experience a relative decline in your unwarranted privilege, decadence and legalised theft!).
At the moment, China looks remarkably democratic when compared with you lot !
I agree. What I have seen of the SDP, which is rare, I have agreed with. I too will vote Reform as they are the best of a bad lot who stand a chance of being shaped into something.
Reform is a tool to destroy the Torys
Voting REFORM as there is no other choice
@@MagicE13 it is designed help those with brains. Maybe when you’ve learnt more ?
Peter Hitchens is so right on the Labour Party. It will be a disaster.
Yes but I think a disaster is what we need.
People are still too comfortable to recognise the desperate need for conservatism in this country.
Once public sector workers start getting fired, they might realise the money to pay them comes from somewhere. -- Private sector taxes.
The lumpen English masses need it. They aren't going to move without a shock.
AGREE
Who would you back?
@@hayleylongster4698 Most of the private sector's profits come from public sector workers buying their products. Half of the GDP of the country is the public sector. You can't really believe that the private sector is the only part of the economy that produces anything of value, can you. That's simpleton thinking.
I think people are underestimating how many votes Reform will take from Labour. The Tories got an 80 majority as a result of Labour voters wanting Brexit to get done. I would take a guess that some, if not many of those voters will hand their vote to Farage and not Starmer
I definitely will.
Labour also has a problem withthe Greens, George Galloways party and muslim independents running against them on the palestine issue. My bet is Labour will be the biggest party, but no overall majority. Very strong possibility it will be a hung parliament now Farage has galvanised the Reform vote.
What does it matter of these people do not go back to Labour, Labour are lapping up the middle ground which the Tories have kindly yielded to peruse the hard right voters. Its an unequivocal rule of British politics that whichever of the major two parties takes the middle ground wins the election. Thatcher took the centre while labour went to the left, Blair took the centre while the Tories went to the right and Cameron took the centre while labour went left again. Now the Tories are moving right and Labour will take the centre and thus win at least two solid elections before the cycle continues. Reform may usurp the Tories as the party of the right but unless they move to the centre they will simply remain opposition to labour. Unless of course PR is adopted in which case Reform could prove to be very powerful in future elections to the determent of the larger parties.
VOTE REFORM
So wrong. Vote Reform. It's the only way to change things.
For the worse
Give them a chance?
A chance to introduce US healthcare corporations to the NHS, side with Putin and ban abortions 🎉
Change things? They haven’t got any policy ideas beyond curtailing immigration. What are they going to do about nationalising public services?
A long wait though !!
No one ever mistook Mr Hitchens for a ray of sunshine.
But at least he uttered the words😅@@ellehann
True!
@@ellehannAt least he expressed pleasure at the memento mori.
Nor could they ever accuse him of being humble!
This is hilarious but I do find Hitchens quite hopeful, more so than most other pundits.
He has hope outwith the political landscape, and perhaps even outwith humanity. He knows how corrupt man is - he lived it and came out the other side. If you don’t have hope that cannot be done.
Socialists and Fabians have long understood the critical importance of incremental change and gradualism. Vote Reform.
Gramsci.
Salami slicing effect
How the heck does that follow? Vote reform, get Labour (and Lib Dems)
Oh? yeah? It took 50 years of slogans, New Speak and incremental poverty, gradual lack of freedom…straight into a brick wall and implosion in 87-89. That's the natural path of any breed of socialism.
…ask the Eastern Europeans…
The Conservative Party are not conservatives, they are Tories.
The modern Tories are neoliberal, but not fundamentalists. ReformUK are neoliberal fundamentalists
Labour and the so called 'Conservatives' are in fact a uniparty.
@@pastyman001Re why Churchill left the Conservative Party
He was a Radical Free Trade Liberal who left because of Conservative protection policies
Of the type the Iron Lady needed to fight tooth and nail against- even on matters of common sense .
@@pastyman001 but Reform will be used as a vehicle to destroy the Torys. This will create space to build something new
Good contribution from the man who guaranteed to us that Putin would not invade Ukraine, the day before Putin invaded Ukraine.
"He's many things but he's not crazy", said Hitchens about Putin.
That part is correct, he's not crazy, he's a sane, calculated, powerful leader, rebelling against creeping NATO-isation as he sees it (and he's right).
I tend to agree. Not very popular I know. But then what is popular seems to be waving flags of countries you couldn't point to on a map and impoverishing your own country with food and fuel inflation in the process so why try to be popular in this nuthouse of a country?
Good comment.
WTF are you talking about? The former eastern bloc nations joined NATO willingly….. you are just parroting what Putin says. What does the world’s largest country, with the largest nuclear Arsenal, have to fear?
@@xanadu8468The US on its doorstep. The US wouldn't tolerate such a position in reverse.
Vote Reform 🇬🇧
The Labour and Tory MPs refused to attend the commons debates on the excessive deaths of British citizens, a most important subject with speeches given delivered by Mr Andrew Bridgen to the house. These speeches can be viewed on RUclips and you will see the complete absence and disinterest displayed by both Labour and the Tory parties.
As they repeatedly told us “they were all in it together”!!
do you need a new tinfoil hat
@@TheOwlsarewatching606Jeeps
Exactly this! Here they are at election time pretending to care about everyone all the while ignoring and belittling someone who points out the thousands of extra people and in terms of the election, potential voters as cold as that might sound that are dying on a monthly basis compared to previous years. It is sickening. It is because they know they are guilty.
Vote Labour and get nationwide ULEZ/FMC, LGBTQ+ crèches, Sharia law, Lubjanka-style interrogation centres, Gulags, Khymer Rouge re-education camps... err.. oh no, I just shat myself!!
Well, it would certainly be a wake up call for complacent British Liberals who already, no joke, consider Rishi Sunak 'Far Right'.
For the rest of us just the slight satisfaction of saying "I told you so".
Not to mention WEF, WHO, follow the money, get rid of shareholders make companies put profits back in.
IF you truly want to change Politics you have to stop using lies and bullshit, when you go down that road you end up being exactly the thing you are trying to change.
I'm not surprised you definitely sound full of it.
HItchens, on a fundamental level, believes this country is irreparably broken - and that it was broken a long time ago. In any interview, he'll be asked where it all went wrong, and he'll harrumph and say - "oh it was far earlier than x, y, z - it's all awful, I despair - and, dontcha know it, I was saying so at the time" (NB Hitchens is, according to himself, right about all things, always).
He thinks that our joining WW2 wrecked us, and was essentially a mistake.
Yes, it was the end of Empire - but I would argue it was also one of our foundational modern "myths" - we stood alone for years in the face of monstrous tyranny. If we had to go down, what a way to go!
But Hitchens doesn't get that. He's not a patriot. I think that's the key thing - I never get the sense he actually even particularly likes this country. Maybe it's something he picked up from his days as a Trot.
Hitchens wants us to vote tactically to avoid a Labour government. Why? To conserve what? According to Hitchens, in previous interviews, this country has gone to the dogs - there's precious little to "conserve", so why bother (by his own logic, I mean).
I - and millions like me - believe we need a transformational (revolutionary) movement on the right in our politics - hence the need for Reform (or something stronger).
Hitchens, it seems, just wants us to continue to ebb away, and "go quietly into that good night" - or that's certainly the way it seems.
He has nothing useful to contribute to the truly conservative discourse anymore. He is a voice for quiet decline, and hoplessness.
I have no issue with the New Culture Forum interviewing him (or anyone for that matter), but given that the NCF also want to shake up the right-wing of British politics - they're a campaign group after all - I wonder whether interviews with this curmudgeon during an election campaign do their cause more harm than good.
My impression was a defeatist negative man with no ideas reminiscing on the good times, and it is HIS generation that have completely let this Country down because they were all too busy living it up and nobody bothered to fight for what was right for the Country. Now my generation has to take up the mantle and put things right, he can F off back to America for all I care
Yes. This.
I really do like Peter (I met him once and contrary to popular belief he is a very nice person who humoured a ranting student and even bought me a drink after he slayed me in a debate). BUT - he is not the person to interview about the future or strategy pertaining to it.
Ultimately, I think he is nostalgic for his Privileged and Charmed past - which of course has gone...
@hayleylongster4698 Oh shoot! The only guy who actually knows that the epicurian spirit of the modern 3rd world serviced oligarch run hedgefund with a bulgaria attached to it we call "Britain" can't be fixed with big slogans and an outnumbered 1 to 6 young native population who is the only speedbump against the ballooning of the managerial class?
He knows the solution and he knows it absolutely well. Thing is it only involves iron and blood and you (literallly) have run out of production capacity of both and would crumble if you face reality.
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. Save your souls. Go to an orthodox church.
You are so deep in managed decline that you worship NHS and drink contrarian "social reform" cool aid with a belief in the rightness of the ideas and badness of the execution of them as strong as a wall in GTA san andreas.
Dissolve NHS
Deregulate industry and construction and manufacturing and commerce of all kind
Deport EVERYBODY
Amend freedom of speech to the constitution
Seperate church from the state
Keep a military junta around for 5 years like under Cromwell
Dismantle the house of the lords.
Expand the parliament to represent all 100k people.
Kill criminals who deserve it and jail up the rest
Put up only a georgian land tax and a friedman positive tax for disabled folk and destroy the money printing shops.
Tie debt to budget and election eligibility. Stop social security.
Finito.
In 5 years Britain will be better.
Labour and conservatives are the same people with the same agenda. It's astonishing to me how few people can see that.
Two cheeks of the same Blairite arse.
Labour will destroy our pensions .
I wish!!!
What f-in pension?.. The one the tories have put back by 7 years and made the most miserable and smallest amount in the developed world?
Remember Labour wants to adopt the Islamists definition of Islamophobia which would mean any critique of Islam is a hate crime
What does that tell you about who is really backing the Islabour Party?
Vote Reform.
Starmer will sell his soul for the Muslim vote.
He's shameless.
Liebore
Who are the Islamists you’re referring to?
@Ruhel74 ' who are the Islamists.?'....
Just look around you or watch the news.
i'm voting reform
I've gone a step further and started hand out leaflets. some people still don't know who the local reform candidate is.
We all are
@@matthat8125 I wouldn't worry. Most people who vote Labour or Tory only find out their candidates name when they turn up to the polling station.
REFORM ALL THE WAY.!!!!
@@alexb7799not quite true as we know our people who are standing for each party!
I've always thought that this Conservative party's is simply a reincarnation of Tony Blairs new labour party.
Exactly. That is what it. Especially as what Hitchens himself has said that the Tory party accepted the Blair agenda after Michael Howard became leader, and Cameron claimed to be : "the heir to Blair".
True - the most shocking thing is that Obama the Destroyer visited Sunak at No 10 and we STILL do not know what was discussed. For that reason - I would never ever vote Tory. Apart from their cowardice and betrayal of everything I stand for. We are voting REFORM.
Yes since Cameron. If the people of the UK knowingly choose red instead of blue just because they are sick of the sight of the Blairite Tories then they deserve what’s coming, and that is a nightmare that pushes the globalist elites One World Government agenda. The UK, as with the West entire, urgently needs a new politics that refocused on long held Western values and roots out the OWG cultists. While other countries have a credible opposition that could lead this vital resistance to the OWG elites Britain does not. Therefore only a protest vote for 2:08 Reform or “none of the above” will do. The choice is between Labour disaster or Tory continuation of the OWG control or neither. If you don’t choose neither you will only have yourself to blame for what comes next…
Reform are the only ones talking about the real issues that people care about.
I think the problem most labour supporters have with Starmer is that he is not a far left Trotskyist. What a fool this guy is. Well spoken. Educated. Cultured. Talks crap all the time.
Apart from his total aversion to more liberal social policy (hence his ridiculous criticism of Farage's stance marijuana), PH is not so much a conservative as a controversialist / self styled iconoclast who will say anything to occupy his strange, neither A nor B (not C either thanks) approach to politics and life.
From what he’s claiming of Starmer, I think that if Hitchens ever heard of Jeremy Corbyn his brain would explode.
VOTE LABOUR GET the third world as a neighbour.
. . .vote Tory same story.
@@blobblob2810
Vote Reform
Vote labour for the reset into loving global gov
Most of us have them thanks to the Tories
Perhaps this country shouldn’t have been involved in so many disastrous wars such as in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria,, Libya to name a few that have caused so much instability and created so many refugees and asylum seekers.
Why does it matter if we vote Hitchens, you've told us to ditch our homeland?
Zero seats. Clear them out.
Most brits belong only in Britain honey with the mate crap , tattoos ,obsession with soccer hooliganism and binge drinking .
Rubbish
@@lmg7503 You're wrong, Hitchens did say that.
A lot of effort going in to convincing people not to vote for the opposition.
Zero seats and a permanent Starmer government with untold political and constitutional damage. Bring it on aye !
Calling Starmer's Labour far left is likened to calling a domestic kitten a lion.
Adding the prefix 'far' does nothing but poison the well...that being said I worry about them being revolutionaries in plain sight
Five and a half thousand people have viewed this, listened to a man who understands socialism, communism better than practically anyone else having lived in the old Soviet Union. Is it any wonder the public are politically illiterate, and will ultimately learn that's not a good talent to possess.
I don't think that Labour is any good - and I do not want them in Office.
Does he understand the danger of American wokeism-Maoism to the entire Western world ???
If Truss is a neo-liberal, then what is Sunak?
Sunak hates Britain
He’s Indian end off
He's middle management-back office with the spreadsheets, enacting policy decided by the board. He has no principles other than self-preservation.
A globalist. W E F young global leader.
Rich kid playing shop
I would even call Truss a neo-liberal(Thatcher and Reagan were) - she is a Blairite, much like Sunak, Cameron, Rory Stewart, the Miliband brothers, Starmer,, May, Clegg, Heseltine, Ken Clarke, etc. It's that globalist consensus : globalised economy, globalised government, mass movement of labour, common purpose training, etc.
Hitchens offers nothing but gloom and pessimism. He's the most miserable man in England.
Vote Reform.
Exactly!
He is but voting Reform would make us all miserable! He does have some intelligence unlike you.
@@JollyGraham
And voting Labour, with their Pandora's box of poisonous social policies is preferable to Reform? Are you mad.
You want an anti Islam Law?
You want women to start losing their rights and having to cover their hair in public?
That's preferable to Reform?
You must be clinically mad.
@@JollyGraham
I'll bite.
HItchens, on a fundamental level, believes this country is fundamentally broken - and that it was broken a long time ago. In any interview, he'll be asked where it all went wrong, and he'll harrumph and say - "oh it was far earlier than x, y, z - it's all awful, I despair - and, dontcha know it, I was saying so at the time" (NB Hitchens is, according to himself, right about all things, always).
He thinks that our joining WW2 wrecked us, and was essentially a mistake.
Yes, it was the end of Empire - but I would argue it was also one of foundational modern "myths" - we stood *alone for years* in the face of monstrous tyranny. If we had to go down, what a way to go!
But Hitchens doesn't *get* that. He's not a patriot. I think that's the key thing - I never get the sense he actually even particularly *likes* this country. Maybe it's something he picked up from his days as a Trot.
Hitchens wants us to vote tactically to avoid a Labour government. Why? To conserve what? According to Hitchens, in previous interviews, this country has gone to the dogs - there's precious little to "conserve", so why bother?
I - and millions like me - believe we need a transformational (revolutionary) movement on the right in our politics - hence the need for Reform (or something stronger).
Hitchens, it seems, just wants us to continue to ebb away, and "go quietly into that good night" - or that's certainly the way it seems.
He has nothing useful to contribute to the truly conservative discourse anymore.
I have no issue with the New Culture Forum interviewing him (or anyone), but given that the NCF also want to shake up the right-wing of British politics, I wonder whether interviews with this curmudgeon during an election campaign do their cause more harm than good.
@@JollyGraham Reform is just a tool to destroy the Torys which haven't conserved anything from 1945
Voting Reform is the only answer. I’m sick of tactical voting. Time for people to stand up. I was despondent at the beginning but as you talked about the polls means Reform could be 30/40%
I shall vote for the Reform candidate. My heart is leading me: I feel very much more inclined to vote FOR a principle rather than AGAINST a principle.
I am English first and foremost. If the very deep and complex implications of that are not understood, or are willfully misinterpreted as racist or xenophobic, that is the end of any further meaningful conversation.
That was an interesting discussion about oppression of the family by the state. It makes me reflect upon my own family situation.
Sorry to say, Peter Hitchens is 100% correct here.
Hitchens needs to define British Conservatism. Its all very well, saying "no they arent and they are this" but what exactly do you think British Conservatism is ? Being Conservative isnt exactly the same as being Politically Conservative either.
The Anglo needs to become revolutionary.
Nothing less
@@evolassunglasses4673 what is the anglo?
The problem being you can't really define such things these days.
I call trad conservatives 'traditionalists' now, as that's kinda how I view myself.
@@hayleylongster4698 but politically surely two things would be "small gov, low taxes"? Very distinctive because those in themselves would prevent the State from changing society in specific ways. Clearly changing laws would be a 'cheap' way with no requirement for taxes or large gov but that would be restricted another way
@@evolassunglasses4673 Enough with the calls for Revolution!! that has never blessed a nation. We will see what happens on the 4th July, I will not stop hoping and praying that England is saved from the disaster of Labour. ➡
"would be"?
_WILL be_
Most people in this country have no idea what they're doing, and will vote for Labour simply because they want an extra £24 in their pockets.
Never mind a "CONSERVATIVE" Britain. How about a "NATIONALIST BRITAIN"....
Patriotic Britain - Great Britain. Loved Britain. Hard Working Britain. Any of those.
Worked for Hitler in 1939!
I'd settle for a nationalist England first. Fuck the other two.
How about common sense ...?
@@alcoholicjoe6199 Nationalism is common sense.
If conservative is an apple then the rot isn't just at the peel, it goes deep to the core. Reform will get my vote.
Only the SNP or Labour can win in my constituency. I'm keen to vote "against" both, so will go for Reform.
We all know what is going wrong , and are constantly reminded . No one is coming up with a solution other than farage, that’s why I’m voting for him
But that allows labour to get in. There really is no political option for british ppl. It's been designed that way.
@@thelastofus2872Labour will win anyway, all is lost
Farage doesn't come up with solutions for anything. All he does is wreck things, never offering anything remotely constructive. Don't be taken in by the false charm and pint of beer. Man of the people? Yeah right.
Pol Pot is coming to England 🏴
I expect the results of a Labour to be the same in England as Cambodia.
Shouldn’t go to specsavers then.
@@Gilberto90 Good one :) 👓
Long live the empire!
Do you really think Starmer will set up
Killing Fields to mass-murder anyone who shows a hint of intellectualism? The Khmer Rouge killed people in the basis of needing to wear glasses, *just in case* they were intellectuals.
Starmer says he's a Socialist - didn't Hitler and Mussolini start their political careers in the same way?
Castro too. Came in under socialism and got them to give up their guns, then He announced he was communist.
Yes and we do not want them - how have we allowed them to get so close to Power?
Hitler and Mussolini claimed they were socialist for clout, before pulling their ultra-right-wing authoritarian crap out of the bag. Nothing about what they bought to their respective countries reflected the ideas of socialism.
Neither did communism for that matter.
I'm more an economic centralist myself, but a socialist overall is soft-left: it's about spending more on welfare, healthcare and education, not about taking over in a coup and murdering political opponents.
While I personally don't think socialism is what we need now, it's worth accurately understanding it. Remember that it was a socialist labour government which founded the NHS.
And North Korea calls themselves democracies, go figure. So did the Soviet Union
You are right but not many people know that.
Seeing the back of the Tories delights me. Seeing Labour replace them terrifies me. Reform's getting my X. It won't prevent a Labour win but the smaller their majority the less power they will yield.
It doesn't matter what political direction Reform leans in. The vitally important thing is to break the LabCon stranglehold on politics. Once LabCon is vanquished we can rebuild the political system. This is a long term struggle which will require long term strategy.
Vote reform
Peter Hitchens is always interesting to listen to. However, unless anyone has been on holiday in McMurdo Sound in a wooden hut, all intelligent people know the hopelessness of the ‘conservatives’ and the absolute disaster our wonderful country shall experience if that idiot Stammer gets control.
I hope against hope that as many as possible VOTE rather than giving up and sitting at home.
Just over 60% of the electorate stayed at home in the recent Rochdale by-election - and look at the result!!!
He's a classic example of why the centre Right has completely failed.
Stuck inside the post 1945 Liberal paradigm and no will to power.
@@shabbos-goy9407 nonsense. Spain lived under Islamic rule for centuries and still turned it around.
The Anglo needs to become revolutionary. Nothing less
It's still very much game on.
Peter is only good for Blackpilling and demoralising our people when they actually need to become revolutionary. Nothing less.
@@evolassunglasses4673 good point
@@evolassunglasses4673 Well said.
If you vote Labour we will have a Muslim Kalifate. Labour will also have open borders. REFORM IS THE ONLY WAY TO VOTE FOR BRITISH PATRIOTS. Don't let Reform down. GO OUT ON 4TH JULY AND VOTE REFORM.
Remind me what a British patriot is again? Is it inclusive? Or anti?
@@JohnPretty1 I'm a member, don't like Starmer, WEF! More time for Nandy, Phillips...he's too controlling.
@@nicholashill9302 a British patriot doesn't shove the Palestine and Hamas flag in your face in our capital city.
Nor do they spit on the Cenotaph or other revered monuments.
Wonder what group of people do that.
Hmmmm let me think now.
@@spearmint47 antizionist and antisemitic aren't the same thing. It's what the leaders of Israel are promulgating that is the problem.
No not an Islamic nightmare, although that may be a stepping stone. Yes since Cameron. If the people of the UK knowingly choose red instead of blue just because they are sick of the sight of the Blairite Tories then they deserve what’s coming, and that is a nightmare that pushes the globalist elites One World Government agenda. The UK, as with the West entire, urgently needs a new politics that refocused on long held Western values and roots out the OWG cultists. While other countries have a credible opposition that could lead this vital resistance to the OWG elites Britain does not. Therefore only a protest vote for Reform or “none of the above” will do. The choice is between Labour disaster or Tory continuation of the OWG control or neither. If you don’t choose neither you will only have yourself to blame for what comes next…
When was the last time the Conservatives conserved anything? They’re always just 10 years behind Labour in terms of progressiveness.
We've had decades of decadence under both Labour and the Conservatives. There is zero evidence that either of these parties are going to buck their ideas up and start listening to what people want.
I've read the 2024 Reform Party “Contract” and that's why they get my vote.
I'm most definitely voting Reform! No other choice in my opinion, if we want to keep Britain British and stay out of the EU. Tories are done, Labour will lead us back to Europe and look what's happening there! Why would you want to return to a failing union!!
Anyone that has lived through the past 5-6 Labour governments knows exactly what it is like. The country is left in a far more dire condition, broke, bankrupt and unions demolishing jobs with their Marxist rhetoric. The Labour governments are easy at giving out more money that isn't there. The recent Tories have been a shambles and dire, but until one experiences a couple of Labour governments , the Tories will look like a walk in the park. The younger people haven't tried the dourness that Labour brings, they have been brainwashed with lefty teachers and Universitie Marxist ideals. If there is a God... Then God help Britain with the likes of Starmer and his fish wife side kick, Rayner! Be careful what you wish for, it can only get WORSE!!
Absolutely correct.
Exactly. We need Labour to trash the country even more than it is in order for young people to realise they aren't the Saintly Answer To Everything that they have been billed as (by the people who have brainwashed them for the last decade).
Spot on there.
You absolute fraggle. I have lived under A Labour government and life in general was so much better. Better NHS, better Roads, the country nowhere near as divided. The Tories have hollowed out this country to give to the rich.
@@DazUK1 - You are quite right, but so unfair to offer facts to someone in love with nonsense!
Reform voters should vote reform in the election and see what happens.
I live in an area where reform may be second or they may even win.
I'm from generations of working class northern Labour voters but I can't in all good conscience do the same. I'll go with the SDP this time.
I like this comment a lot!
This man is right on some things and wrong on so many other things.
Peter was my first realisation of was possible to think both parties were wrong and our system was letting us down and using us to justify itself.
Yeah we need proportional representation. Belarus is the only other European country doing first past the post, it’s mental.
As long as NF gets Clacton.. that's the turn-around we need. Britain can start to build a new right wing movement around him.
This man has consistently been the most honest commentator in the UK.
What an interview. How true, must be getting old and bitter.
Sorry, Older,err and Bitter,err!
The new set is just Horrible. Please change it back, Peter!
ive been saying this too. the other one in the echo chamber with the huge desk is even worse
Peter is correct about many things, but if you're going to defend the two party system, as he does, you can't complain if that dynamic creates a Trump or a Farage.
These candidates are the _outcome_ of the system, and perhaps in an ideal world there would be a traditional Conservative to vote for, but we only have Nigel to fight for some kind of change.
So rather than sneer at him I think Peter needs to be a bit more positive about someone who, at least, represents a clear step away from Starmer and the potential horrors hidden away in his Pandora's box of political and social policies.
FPTP is no longer fit for purpose, but neither is proportional representation that Reform and Farage have been flirting with. What we actually need is more accountability of all MPs and civil service bureaucrats. For this to happen, we need the electorate to be more engaged in local and national politics. For this to happen we need Direct Democracy, similar to the swiss system. We also need a separation of powers between the government (cabinet) and sitting govenrment mps, so they can no longer force mps to vote via whips and more in line with the interests of their constituency, than the party. Direct Democracy is real democracy. Representative Democracy is not democracy when the representatives have little accountablity to the voters who put them in every 5 years.
Wow, I've just been reading through the comments, and all the support for Reform! I have trouble computing just how anyone can have lived through the past 10 years in the UK, with Brexit and the utter disgrace of what the Tory party has now become. And still, be so gaslit that you'd think any of our problems can be solved by MORE populism, it's just bonkers.
I'm not British but I keep hearing Brexit was a terrible mistake. Certainly fairly grim in the short term, and the EU was spiteful about the UK leaving, which made it worse. But the bad things about the EU which motivated Brexit have not changed and in some ways are getting worse. Member states are at risk of becoming constituencies of Brussels. Italy has reduced its debt from a colossal 155% of GDP in 2020 but is still alarmingly unhealthy at 137%. However the reduction was achieved by "robust inflation", which increased nominal GDP, not by meaningful growth. The point is that if a bailout by the EU is required, it will be at least 10 times as damaging as the Greek bailout. It's fair to say that this remains a definite possibility, for which the UK is no longer on the hook. This could become a big advantage, we just don't know yet.
Hi @@johndalzell904 Well that is the narative spun by the tabloids and commentators who promoted Brexit, I'm skeptical given that the UK government own total incompetence and gross dishonestly. I think that fact that it has gone so badly is down to the fact that the UK government didn't seem understanding what the EU is, what the UK was supposed to achieve by leaving and the practical implications of that would be.
I think they we either so gaslit by the UK tabloids and the Tufton Street set or too stupid that they had never actually stopped to think about whether their ideas about what the UK's relationship with the EU actually was or what Brexit many were in anyway based in reality.
Johnson kicking out all of the people within his party who were both smart enough to see what was happening and too honest to go along with it left us with a super majority of some of the most stupid and the dishonest people who have ever graced UK politics. I think this combined with the narcissism and infighting of factions within the Tory party and the a gasoline poured on it by the Tabliods and Tufton Street plants in the UK media is responsible for the absolute skip fire Brexit has turned out to be.
What way do you think the the EU spiteful?
Well said
I am 69 . I may well die in the next five years . I am somewhat depressed to realize that if Labour wins this election then the country i love will have the worse government in British democratic history. In fact what is left of the Britain we knew will finally go
I am centre left on many social issues and am naturally a supporter of the Labour Party . When i say Labour Party i mean the one that used to represent working class people . This new version of the Labour Party hates working class people . I have heard middle class Labour Party members say that working class people shouldnt be allowed to vote !!!
I am so pleased that my righteous working class parents , who used to put on their sunday best to vote Labour , are no longer around to see what has happened to this country.
Farewell Britannia . You were never perfect but you aspired to be so . ✌️🇬🇧
You won’t be missed
@@daikucoffee5316Oh well, you won’t live as long as him. The west especially is up to something, and it probably is authoritarianism in part because it’s needed to survive civilisation collapse which is forecast to happen, and soon. And people like you? You’re being played. It happens… loads of Germans did what they did even though, it was not ultimately, in their best interests. They lost their homes, fathers, brothers, some mothers, sisters, many their own lives or arms, legs etc. In short, they were played too. That’s you, but when you’ll realise it we can but wait and see. I sometimes think some will never ever wake up.
Labour gave us the Rotherham gang scandal. Conservative didn’t correct it. They’re both as bad each other. I’m voting extreme right wherever I can.
lanour councillors participated in the grooming too
Peter Hitchens would you stop shitting on everything for one second PLEASE. This is the first time in my lifetime that conservatism has any momentum, so what if it isn't perfect? Give a young man some hope
We need Restorative leaders, not conservative
It's his bread and butter.
@@golfbulldog They can and should be one and the same.
We just need to go back to a traditional form of conservatism. Not this Children of Blair 'centrist' bollocks.
Listen and you might hear the answer to your question
Fishy certainly showed plenty of momentum in the swift way he bogged off from the D Day parade .
Denethor Hitchens can't expect people to follow his political prescriptions given his long history of defeatism and consistent message of 'It's Over. Flee''
Lugubriousness does not engender loyalty or enthusiasm
Sounds like someone’s been watching Sargon 😅
@@odiedodieuk Well yes, but look at my avatar....
Denethor 😂😂😂 i choked on my breakfast laughing and reading that
Hitchens' ilk will tell us to flee, and flee, and flee until we're all on an island in the Pacific surrounded by invaders and nowhere to flee to. And they will still be smug and self-congratulatory about it.
He is increasingly Lugubrious...
"A far-left Trotskyist" - that statement has absolutely zero credibility. This is not someone who should be taken seriously.
@markpower. 100% right. This Hitchens was the dunce of the family. His estranged brother Christopher was the star. - an intellectual giant. We miss him still.
@@realitykicksin8755 I don't take you seriously either.
I think it has credibility now
@@ThePurplePianist1 Why? Because things that were crimes before he was Prime Minister are still crimes?
Yeah, because the Tories haven't been a disaster at all...
A successful and visible Reform party will keep important topics under discussion, which is vital… even as a third party.
The Tories cannot win. Voting for more ‘broad church’/centrist Tories will just give us a Labour-lite nodding shop of an opposition.
The new Farage, now brave enough to talk about Islam and its deficiencies, getting into parliament with 10- 20 MPs would be a useful start. Why Farage never supported Gerard Batten over his criticisms of Islam still worries me.
Churchill warned about Labour in 1945.
.....and then lost the election
@@timwilliams113 And we've been losing elections to snakey Commies in disguise ever since.
Churchill was right.
@@timwilliams113 Yes. Not their finest hour. And he was right.
@glennhubbard5008 if Atlee had not won in 1945 we wouldn't have the NHS. You may not care, but I do
@@timwilliams113 Oh, you would have had it eventually, for what it is worth, but he was right about the Left turning into the Gestapo.
Am I the only one who has the feeling we are witnessing something akin to bullying against Sunak? The troubles we have today have a footprint going back a lot longer than 14 years and BTW, Sunak wasn't on the scene for most of it. Neither were the Conservatives for that matter. That said, if there is a Reform candidate on my poll card they get my vote even though where I live Labour are likely to walk it. Peter Hitchens has a great talent for analysing political matters and I respect him greatly.
I agree with a lot Peter says here, but how on earth could one parent stay at home in this day and age. The cost of living is simply far too high
There are no longer any conservative Parties in the UK. But what other choice do we have? We either don't vote at all or we vote for Reform. At least Farage is standing against mass immigration, particularly of those who don't share, and even want to destroy, our values.
At the moment perhaps the only thing we can look forward to is Mr. Hitchens telling us "I told you so". Perhaps, we should listen to Peter Hitchens this time. If we don't will you please invite him on again, once the disasters of the new government unfold?
I suspect the same is happening now, with regards to huge swathes of people refusing to say who they'll vote for. By reliance on Internet polling, the polsters may well be excluding huge numbers from the very demographic that votes most- seniors.
Strongly disagree. Tories are not Conservative. Reform are Conservative/ Libertarian.