$500 Civic vs $50,000 Civic Type-R (THE REMATCH)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • After spending a full year and $50,000 on our $500 Civic, can it finally take down the new Type-R?
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  • @daltonsegall3616
    @daltonsegall3616 8 месяцев назад +1051

    It doesn’t have to be 50,000 but restoring an old car like this is why we watch. This is doing what we all wish we could do. Thank you!

    • @miketech2
      @miketech2 8 месяцев назад +17

      I would love to see an ode to old TopGear and have Jerry v Zac v Nolan compete with $15k builds.
      Make a broad ruleset and let em go to town with build videos over the course of months. Culminating to a final time attack or track day battle.
      It would be so fun to see the diff builds take shape.

    • @focused313
      @focused313 8 месяцев назад +2

      Lol @ we. Why do y'all do that? Just say, "I".

    • @user-bf6pz6kj8f
      @user-bf6pz6kj8f 8 месяцев назад +3

      Restoring an old car and upgrading it, is the reason im subscribe to them

    • @RefrigeratedTP
      @RefrigeratedTP 8 месяцев назад +2

      Finally bought a dewalt brushless ratchet. Where are all my car parts to use it on? Aw shit.

    • @jaybomb5022
      @jaybomb5022 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@focused313exactly😂

  • @Berm_Blaster
    @Berm_Blaster 8 месяцев назад +5535

    Recovering brand new $2500 seats to match the valve cover is wild 😂

    • @TenthMan-ip2jp
      @TenthMan-ip2jp 8 месяцев назад +858

      They wasted 50k on the car. They put the money in useless brand name parts. Someone that actually knows what they are doing can build a much nicer and faster EG for half the money.

    • @Jackal9405
      @Jackal9405 8 месяцев назад +156

      Hard to not agree

    • @darceew
      @darceew 8 месяцев назад +148

      ​@@TenthMan-ip2jpvery much agree.

    • @MelleLaCruze
      @MelleLaCruze 8 месяцев назад +221

      @@TenthMan-ip2jp K20 NA with a shorter gear ratio + CUSCO LSD could easily shave another 1-2 seconds and would have only cost 15K tops

    • @ExcessEnergy
      @ExcessEnergy 8 месяцев назад +124

      Because they can; and because they’re probably gonna do more shit to it later

  • @alexkaspi
    @alexkaspi 8 месяцев назад +322

    Would love to see you guys finish up the car with exterior mods, fresh paint, bodywork, etc. Been great watching this build, inspiring!

  • @sethcoogan3966
    @sethcoogan3966 5 месяцев назад +13

    I drove a '94 Civic Hatch, Si version for 10 years. Swapped out the D16Z6 for a B18C. Will never forget all the good memories. This video series on the $500 eg made me smile. Early 2000's era of suped up 90's Civics was a world unto it's own, very special to a whole generation. From all of us, thank you.

  • @miketech2
    @miketech2 8 месяцев назад +846

    I would love to see an ode to old TopGear and have Jerry v Zac v Nolan compete with $15k builds.
    Make a broad ruleset and let em go to town with build videos over the course of months. Culminating to a final time attack or track day battle with road trips in between.
    It would be so fun to see the diff builds take shape.

    • @gilbertroberts7843
      @gilbertroberts7843 8 месяцев назад +12

      Holy shit please!

    • @richtube6084
      @richtube6084 8 месяцев назад +7

      Dope idea

    • @F0XD1E
      @F0XD1E 8 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool idea although it would be a lot more difficult for them. The BBC/Amazon had a lot more money and definitely provided entire teams to build each car.

    • @KirchTX
      @KirchTX 8 месяцев назад +3

      Donut is the new top gear anyway so may as well. Would love to see some of the things learned from hi low applied when you have an overall budget. Where is the bang for buck? Great idea.

    • @macoady
      @macoady 8 месяцев назад +2

      Instead of one single timed lap do a tour, racing or testing through streets, canyons, track, maybe even somewhere else as well

  • @sylvainjoly1965
    @sylvainjoly1965 8 месяцев назад +565

    Considering the almost 100hp difference I’m impressed with the time!

    • @terkojakobson
      @terkojakobson 8 месяцев назад +16

      if they finished the filming on wet track, it is likely EG would have beaten the new stock (depending on the tyres) - i take less weight and better handling over more power any day of the week!

    • @ChrisBlagdonIsABoss
      @ChrisBlagdonIsABoss 8 месяцев назад +31

      it's also like a thousand pounds less but sure

    • @LunarKittyLily
      @LunarKittyLily 8 месяцев назад +4

      Factory pilot sport 2s so unlikely​@@terkojakobson

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@terkojakobsonwhat if they filmed this on wet Spa Francorchamps?

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 8 месяцев назад +3

      Weight.

  • @nvrndingsmmr
    @nvrndingsmmr 8 месяцев назад +40

    Some kind of hood scoop to cover that intake on the EG would be great, like the short, wide ones on STIs. It was cool to see the final results! Great work everyone!

  • @crunchyrin
    @crunchyrin 8 месяцев назад +12

    It's definitely hard to decide ...
    1. The 2023 Civic has warranty for 50k that also includes parts and motor ... already makes 315hp out of the factory.
    2. The enjoyment of building your own Civic is good but the expense include like when the engine fails, electrical works, tuning the car and stuff CAN BE FUN but it's a personal taste.
    3. The old Civic can be made for less if you buy used parts mostly for the interior and would make a decent change to get a turbo for it. Maybe some parts can be bought used or bought from a different brand to change the price a little bit just to squeeze a turbo to even the field from 230hp to at least 280 or even 300 ?
    all and all it's a good little toy to play with

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 5 месяцев назад +2

      Not even used parts ditch the intake they put on and go turbo (pretty much the same price)
      Ditch those seats and go with momo ikon nrg jegs sparco. Then don’t wrap the headliner spray it or get suede and do it yourself. Clean and spray the carpet. Then you can still add a touchscreen and backup camera and get a pillar for the gauges and spend about half what they did on the seats alone.

    • @Ayrton3201
      @Ayrton3201 2 месяца назад

      A turbo build would definetely be cheaper and deliver more power, but it is a great car anyway.

  • @pepsibetterthancoke-dk9dz
    @pepsibetterthancoke-dk9dz 8 месяцев назад +1287

    im surprised that this wasn't a money pit series it seems to be the perfect project

    • @bonerici
      @bonerici 8 месяцев назад +154

      for donut, everything is a money pit

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske 8 месяцев назад +5

      They could turn it into a money pit now

    • @clumsygarage1578
      @clumsygarage1578 8 месяцев назад +56

      They don’t really do named serieses any more it seems. It’s basically money pit.

    • @LvLdGhost
      @LvLdGhost 8 месяцев назад +7

      It’s not a money pit because it’s worth it 💪

    • @geoffwatches
      @geoffwatches 8 месяцев назад

      yep@@clumsygarage1578

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 8 месяцев назад +619

    The older Civic definitely holds its charm, and those modifications really make it unique. The sheer fun and adrenaline experienced in the DIY project seemed unbeatable.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад +3

      1993 Civic and 1995 Civic 3Door Hatchback also are still amazing.

    • @PavelKostromitinov
      @PavelKostromitinov 8 месяцев назад +6

      Especially the adrenaline when some of your upgrades blow up...

    • @Oddman1980
      @Oddman1980 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@PavelKostromitinov That rush of wondering how you'll get home! I've been there...

  • @alanbarrese456
    @alanbarrese456 7 месяцев назад +44

    This video is another great example of why older Hondas have so much charm and soul to them. It's the same reason I have an S2000 or bought an 8th gen Civic Si as a daily instead of a 10th/11th. No modern Honda engine will sound as good as an old K20. Modern Hondas are still very good cars, especially in terms of chassis dynamics, shifter feel, and interior design, but they lack that certain something that made the older ones special.

    • @roba6812
      @roba6812 4 месяца назад +2

      100 percent agree with you!! 8th Gen civic was the last true si!! Had mine for 12 years! Never selling!

    • @adrianbolton9279
      @adrianbolton9279 4 месяца назад

      @@roba6812 8th gens look like a 2005 Prius

    • @wally99szarek
      @wally99szarek 4 месяца назад

      I'm of the opinion that honda lost their spirit when Soichrio Honda died in the late 90's. They're still trying their best but they don't take risks or experiment like they used to. I hope they get it back soon, I'd love a new rwd honda like an s3000 or something

    • @TooCoolToBeUrFriend
      @TooCoolToBeUrFriend 3 месяца назад

      I think it's just a nostalgic feeling you got

    • @Jdmking-kp1mu
      @Jdmking-kp1mu 3 месяца назад

      I hope Honda can step up their FR 4 banger game again. The S2000 is iconic next to the S Chassis, Miata, and AE86.

  • @monteboy87
    @monteboy87 7 месяцев назад +6

    I've never been a Honda guy, and I'm still not, but I 100% respect the work that went into that build. Looks like it was a ton of fun (along with the usual pain of working on cars) and the results made everyone happy. Can't beat that. We need to see the Money Pit Miata against the EG!

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 8 месяцев назад +1109

    Never underestimate a couple guys in a garage building a civic as a joke😂

    • @johnhunter9383
      @johnhunter9383 8 месяцев назад +4

      Real

    • @jdm_n_german_edits
      @jdm_n_german_edits 8 месяцев назад

      FR

    • @ronaldkuizon5713
      @ronaldkuizon5713 8 месяцев назад

      Respect 99 like

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 месяцев назад +8

      Built a CRX like that with some of my friends about 20 years ago when they and B16s were still dirt cheap, one of my favorite car memories ever, that thing was just so raw sounding/feeling with it's lift oversteer, about one step up from being on a bike! These fat new cars with their spaceship handling and fake engine noise will never replicate that! Selling it is one of my biggest regrets, but I needed money for an SR swap at the time 😅

    • @NioRcity
      @NioRcity 8 месяцев назад

      📠

  • @keeganfaulkner1240
    @keeganfaulkner1240 8 месяцев назад +7133

    I’ll take the 95 cause the insurance is cheaper

    • @mr.pritchard67
      @mr.pritchard67 8 месяцев назад +282

      Is it though? It has virtually no anti theft, no safety equipment, and parts will be very expensive to replace. I'm not sure it would be as cheap as you think it would be unless you have shit insurance that wouldn't actually cover it at all.

    • @lusciouslunk
      @lusciouslunk 8 месяцев назад +520

      @@mr.pritchard67insurance is absolutely cheaper

    • @ThEgamingGINJ
      @ThEgamingGINJ 8 месяцев назад +247

      @@mr.pritchard67had a 05 civic insurance was 130 a month now I got a 2020 civic sport and it’s more than double

    • @Umar-gw6fy
      @Umar-gw6fy 8 месяцев назад +257

      It’ll be cheaper if you dont declare mods

    • @88luda88
      @88luda88 8 месяцев назад +60

      American insurance is interesting

  • @SuperNigel61
    @SuperNigel61 8 месяцев назад +9

    I really like these episodes because it's always more than numbers and brochure highlights. Driver experience and connection to the car has always been more important in my book. That Civic Type R is wonderful but I would take the build of an EG with the guys over a dealership hand shake.

  • @connor6547
    @connor6547 8 месяцев назад +8

    This series has been a blast. Since I got my first civic I have had a special spot in my heart for them

  • @MyCoolboy17
    @MyCoolboy17 8 месяцев назад +272

    I definitely want to see more with this car, don’t let it die

    • @onechakarov
      @onechakarov 7 месяцев назад +7

      My guy, the car is badly build and those guys are casuals, if you get professionals from Europe to do that job and invest 50 000$ into any car from 1990s it will absolutely destroy that brand new little Civic and many more. Drag or Race, heck in Europe it will cost 10 000 euros to beat that civic.

    • @ImGamingBear323
      @ImGamingBear323 7 месяцев назад

      @@onechakarovreal

    • @Rocrhiler
      @Rocrhiler 7 месяцев назад +20

      ​​​@@onechakarov But that isn't the point. Sink any significant amount of money into any car and you could more than likely take on most production vehicles out there. The point here is that with enough dedication and bravery to modify a car, you can take a car from 30 years ago and make it perform almost as well as a car made today.
      Let's not forget that while they built this in a matter of months, they have funding, a workshop & salaries (I assume). It would take most of us years to get FL5 level performance out of a pos EG. The difference is every modification they've made to that EG can be done by your average Joe with a friend and a dream. No high tech experimental bs, just a wrench and a plan.

  • @cityslick_zc_9537
    @cityslick_zc_9537 8 месяцев назад +492

    you should turbocharge the EG, build the k series, and document it all. not sure what the whole point of it would be for the channel lol but it would be sick and we would all for sure watch it

    • @TheMazdamn
      @TheMazdamn 8 месяцев назад +22

      I agree. turbo it, then race again. Build type R, race again.

    • @guerrinlove69
      @guerrinlove69 8 месяцев назад +29

      Nah they should find some CRV parts and make it AWD before adding boost

    • @ben501st
      @ben501st 8 месяцев назад +15

      This channel does not have a great record with forced induction.

    • @kozohoshinosbnr3490
      @kozohoshinosbnr3490 8 месяцев назад +2

      itb's are way better

    • @CroftVan
      @CroftVan 8 месяцев назад +13

      The craze for boost is palpable, still a well tuned NA has a magic of it's own.

  • @333studiosks
    @333studiosks 8 месяцев назад +26

    This video should be called how to make under 500hp with $100,000

  • @ImARichard
    @ImARichard 8 месяцев назад +107

    Nolan in the passenger seat looking terrified, Civic Type-R beeping angrily in the canyons:
    Jerry: "Oh relax"
    😂😂😂

    • @TheBeelzboss
      @TheBeelzboss 8 месяцев назад

      Why the fuck was it beeping?

    • @Kitteh.B
      @Kitteh.B 8 месяцев назад +6

      Me, driving to the grocery store with my mother in the passenger seat with her death-gripping the handle "Oh relax" lmao

  • @SamiKhan-hn3uk
    @SamiKhan-hn3uk 8 месяцев назад +266

    I’m just saying, they could’ve made a custom made bonnet/hood scoop for that intake on the EG in my opinion. Would definitely help in the looks department👌🏽

    • @neilamsberry9841
      @neilamsberry9841 8 месяцев назад +9

      Been thinking the same thing since the last episode.

    • @mohammedosmankhan1837
      @mohammedosmankhan1837 8 месяцев назад +10

      They'll probably improve the looks in a few weeks when their budget allows them.

    • @tjramsey7274
      @tjramsey7274 8 месяцев назад +5

      i like the cut hood for the ITBs if anything they just need a better looking filter set up,, like individual ones so it can show them off

    • @thepjup4507
      @thepjup4507 8 месяцев назад +1

      nah it looks perfect how it is. acquire some taste my friend.

    • @SamiKhan-hn3uk
      @SamiKhan-hn3uk 8 месяцев назад

      @@thepjup4507 your poes

  • @INDIANBEA5T
    @INDIANBEA5T 8 месяцев назад +2

    You guys are basically LTT of car world. Love the vids!

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 5 месяцев назад

      Don’t insult LTT with these guys

    • @INDIANBEA5T
      @INDIANBEA5T 5 месяцев назад

      @@malaki4519 excuse me? Donut Media is the LTT of the automotive world. They make entertaining videos full of information. Just like LTT.

  • @kiow3601
    @kiow3601 8 месяцев назад +12

    def turbo it

  • @420Schmat
    @420Schmat 8 месяцев назад +262

    Really wanna see a turbo and a wrap on the 95 to finish it off. See if you can get the lap time down with some boost.

    • @johndoe920
      @johndoe920 8 месяцев назад +34

      naaah the shitbox look is part of the charm. Wouldn't be the same with a wrap.

    • @sambeaumont395
      @sambeaumont395 8 месяцев назад +8

      Better to give it a body kit first if you going to wrap it, including a legit custom hood to replace that horrible cut out.

    • @user-qr3wp1md5r
      @user-qr3wp1md5r 8 месяцев назад +4

      and e85. make 600 ponies reliable. also f wrap, get it painted

    • @nonstopqs4188
      @nonstopqs4188 8 месяцев назад +6

      honestly for the $50k they spent I thought they should've slapped a turbo on it first considering the type r is turbo

    • @adismail
      @adismail 8 месяцев назад +6

      The ITB's make a turbo kit significantly harder to engineer here. They would have to ditch the ITB's for an off the shelf setup, which they probably won't do given how committed they are at this point to having them on the car.
      There may be a video on a turbo setup still, but it's not simple and would have to be entirely custom.

  • @RunicGG
    @RunicGG 8 месяцев назад +329

    Finding a new civic for msrp should be a series of its own. I'd love to get for for under 80k in my area.

    • @jbac5767
      @jbac5767 8 месяцев назад +28

      80k for a civic???

    • @user-cz5kd4xe2u
      @user-cz5kd4xe2u 8 месяцев назад

      Next the body pls

    • @honda_miata
      @honda_miata 8 месяцев назад +4

      Very possible to get them for low 50's out the door.

    • @saltysax
      @saltysax 8 месяцев назад +2

      Got my 2017 touring for less than 30 because of a minor dent

    • @JonHop1
      @JonHop1 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@honda_miata depends where u are. Most places its 60k+

  • @ferraribugatti
    @ferraribugatti 5 месяцев назад +1

    This really is one of my favorite video series that you have done. I hope we see a lot more of this Civic

  • @Canyondriver
    @Canyondriver 8 месяцев назад +57

    I'd love to see a motor trend or car and driver level spec sheet as if it was an official press car back in the day. Acceleration runs, top speed, braking distance, weight and weight distribution, gas mileage, etc. This seems like it would be a really fun episode.

  • @JayJaxRHS13
    @JayJaxRHS13 8 месяцев назад +206

    Keep doing the EG! Y'all said you did everything besides turbo and AWD swapping so it sounds to me like you guys know what's needed to be done

    • @TraviNomotion
      @TraviNomotion 8 месяцев назад +10

      No please don’t civics are perfect non boosted k swapped and restored

    • @ivanbbrito
      @ivanbbrito 8 месяцев назад +2

      Please, give this bad boy 300hp and do a rematch!

    • @DetroitMicroSound
      @DetroitMicroSound 8 месяцев назад +6

      4x4 and built as a period WRC 'Dream Rally Car', since Civics didn't compete at the time. Maybe even safari spec, covered in PIAA lighting all around, a roof rack, a pair of spare tires in the back of the hatch....

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ivanbbritowhat about a rematch between Civic 3Door Si 1993 vs Toyota Supra RZ 1996?

    • @vonhousin4179
      @vonhousin4179 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@DetroitMicroSound bro i wanted to awd my 91 civic hatch in a rally wrc style so bad but i got hit and didnt have the money to keep it at the time. i never stopped thinking about it and might have to just go get another one day soon. i love the giant windows on that thing and its ass is amazing 😍

  • @Tclans
    @Tclans 7 месяцев назад +1

    More $ 500 Civic please, this is fun!

  • @evelcustom9864
    @evelcustom9864 2 месяца назад

    That bubbly 95 is the best looking Civic hatch they ever made. It has been relatively down hill from an aesthetic standpoint since then. I’d take that baby any day, though it might be nice to have some back seats.

  • @14rs2
    @14rs2 8 месяцев назад +18

    4:50 showing us how he rinsed 3rd gear in the Subaru 😂

  • @farmboosted
    @farmboosted 8 месяцев назад +81

    I personally would love to see y'all do a lot more with this civic 🤙🏽

  • @easye47
    @easye47 8 месяцев назад +3

    That EG is a prime example of too many cooks spoil the broth 😂 I’m glad the new Type R won.

  • @davidashworth1985
    @davidashworth1985 8 месяцев назад +2

    LOVED this series! I was curious though...what kind of tires were you running on the EG? The Volks look SICK. I wonder if stickier rubber would allow the EG to slip past the Type R?

  • @josephmatuszak3855
    @josephmatuszak3855 8 месяцев назад +74

    The rawness of the EG build to me just has so much more personality and fun appeal. The new Type-R is amazing, but it does not mimic that OG feel in the Temple of VTEC.

    • @santiagooehler
      @santiagooehler 8 месяцев назад +1

      I love it, but the thing with mods it's that you are always chasing bugs, and if you are going to have only one car, it becomes tedious

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@santiagooehlerthe Spoon Civic Type R also got VTEC super engine on it...

  • @Cocpain
    @Cocpain 8 месяцев назад +22

    Finding an EG hatch for $500 where I live, even the base model, is the biggest surprise of this whole series...

  • @kevinb.3656
    @kevinb.3656 8 месяцев назад +1

    “Just a second and a half slower in the track.” Lmao, they say that trying to hide the smirk of how massive of a difference that is.

  • @RequiredSugar
    @RequiredSugar 8 месяцев назад +1

    As James May said during Top Gear. "Everything today is better than it was one day ago.." For the same money you are getting a much more reliable car with a manufacturer's warranty that doesn't sound like it's going to explode every time you step on the accelerator. It's an easy choice, Type R.

  • @Portorrro86
    @Portorrro86 6 месяцев назад

    To be honest, with $10k you can have this identical civic while having another $40k to buy the boys their own EG with similar set ups and hit up the track scene as one lol. This was a dope freaking series!!!! 🥰

  • @HendrickT-bi4iw
    @HendrickT-bi4iw 8 месяцев назад +67

    I think when it comes to new cars and especially hot hatchbacks, it's advances in the diffs and electronics that really give them an edge against older cars. But that 95 hatch is still an awesome build that looks insanely fun to drive. It deserves a decent wrap or paint job next.

    • @Thraakull
      @Thraakull 8 месяцев назад +3

      exactly, and who knows, maybe with an updated diff the EG would be able to easily put down the power and thus make it better maneuverable - but that would probably improve the time and the handling too much and uhhhh... that probably does not look good as in old model vs new model, some sale just miiiiight get influenced by such thing

  • @alexcarter1266
    @alexcarter1266 8 месяцев назад +129

    Can we talk about what an amazing driver Jerry has become???

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад +5

      Jerry starts to be as amazing as Yianni.😅

    • @ZibrayMusic
      @ZibrayMusic 8 месяцев назад +4

      They don't even use drift daddy anymore haha

  • @bhavyaparekh8624
    @bhavyaparekh8624 8 месяцев назад

    Donut: Buys $500 Civic as a JOKE.
    Donut Next day: Spends $50k on it😂😂
    That's why we love this channel.

  • @DerpyDude777
    @DerpyDude777 7 месяцев назад

    I'll go the 95 route any day (ideally 96-2000 IMO). The experience with the bros and the knowledge gained, 110%! And honestly, there's more you can do to make it even better, Civics, anything can be done.
    I know a dude named Rob and he had an about 1000 HP drag EK Hatch and that thing was literally insane! The Hoonigan race it was in was kinda unfair but it held it's own.

  • @MrGhost36969
    @MrGhost36969 8 месяцев назад +145

    Definitely going with the BUILD! Don't get me wrong, the new Type R would be cool to have and modify, but to build up and modify a car with your own hands is an experience and pride you can't buy, plus I use to own a 94 EG and it was a fun car.

    • @Jmacfann
      @Jmacfann 8 месяцев назад +3

      You can..and it costs 45k plus labor.

  • @neilieb3740
    @neilieb3740 8 месяцев назад +39

    The EG definitely has come a long way. Can't believe it's that fast, with just 230 HP, and the new Type R has 315. Definitely love the EG build and all it definitely worth more than the new Type R.

    • @Mecks_Music
      @Mecks_Music 8 месяцев назад +4

      the eg put 230 to the wheels the newer civic puts around 270 - 290 to the wheels . I reckon with some areo mods the eg will be around the same pace

    • @brotang2953
      @brotang2953 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Mecks_Musicpower is only one side of the "fast" equation, the old one weighs next to nothing compared to the new one. Even if they had the same power the older ones going to be faster because it's probably close to half the weight.

    • @drzflyest4
      @drzflyest4 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Mecks_Musicits the torque not the aero.

    • @marklion315
      @marklion315 8 месяцев назад

      270 to the wheel? source? @@Mecks_Music

    • @Mecks_Music
      @Mecks_Music 8 месяцев назад

      . the newer civic makes 315bhp but thay aint to the wheels. it probably puts around 270 - 290 to the wheels​ find some dyno grafts on google @marklion315

  • @nelsonngu
    @nelsonngu 8 месяцев назад

    When i was younger i used to like EG6, i changed my mind to like EK4 in the end, and DC5 facelift. Great content! I am smiling all the way hearing that VTEC baby!

  • @johnnixon2504
    @johnnixon2504 8 месяцев назад +17

    Honestly, it is about 4 seconds faster around that track than I expected.

  • @matthewpeterson3329
    @matthewpeterson3329 8 месяцев назад +22

    There's still plenty of weight to be cut out of the '95. Money was spent where it didn't need to be spent, even though it's cool. This could have been a $40k project, and with some more reduction, I think the times would match up. Altogether a fun series of videos for sure!

    • @alexanderpsaras5663
      @alexanderpsaras5663 8 месяцев назад +4

      But they wanted a balanced car not just a full stripped track monater

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 8 месяцев назад +4

      No thanks, everything was necessary.

    • @crissd8283
      @crissd8283 8 месяцев назад +3

      A small turbo would have gone a long way. I'd rather have the back seats and a small turbo.

    • @ShaneKingYo
      @ShaneKingYo 8 месяцев назад +2

      yeah the itbs should have been a turbo instead

  • @xavierzickefoose-qs7ld
    @xavierzickefoose-qs7ld 5 месяцев назад

    I really think there should be more videos on this car, at this point it’s the mascot. More additional videos and upgrades would be awesome. Like adding turbo,new paint , and maybe nitrous 😂. Don’t let this car die!

  • @dakotablackstone4486
    @dakotablackstone4486 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Type R. Hands down. Imagine what the Type R does with aftermarket parts and tuning.

  • @DEFE1994
    @DEFE1994 8 месяцев назад +31

    This video just makes me so happy, congrats on how far y’all have made it. Nolan…dude is shining. You can see how happy he is. Love the whole crew ❤

  • @hi_tech_reptiles
    @hi_tech_reptiles 8 месяцев назад +42

    That EG hatch could very easily be faster for sure. Some diff stuff, engine tuning/lightweight internals, let alone a supercharger or other FI, or you could make it AWD with the budget what it is. Especially if you take out a lot of the interior related stuff haha. Super cool series regardless, and if you want a Civic TR I don't blame you they are def cool either way.

    • @markkosir2123
      @markkosir2123 7 месяцев назад +1

      They could have slapped a crate billet in there and save on other things

    • @redheadracing6242
      @redheadracing6242 7 месяцев назад +4

      There were so many better ways of spending their budget, no need for 5k in recaros

    • @iamfrickincool
      @iamfrickincool 7 месяцев назад +1

      If it was a high compression build or all motor that vtec would kick bro

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 5 месяцев назад

      For the price of the seats alone switching to ikon momo jegs nrg or sparco. Then adding a touchscreen and backup camera. Spray the carpet and headliner instead of wrapping the headliner and adding new carpet. Get a new pillar for the gauges

    • @markkosir2123
      @markkosir2123 5 месяцев назад

      @@malaki4519 exactly so much money wasted but it’s not mine so to each their own

  • @Axels107
    @Axels107 8 месяцев назад +1

    This old Civic miss:
    -Body kit
    -Modern led front and rear lights
    -Lights under car

  • @jarzota
    @jarzota 8 месяцев назад

    its more fun to drive a slow car than a fast car slow.
    Hearing the car grunt as the RPM goes high, the shakiness and the feeling everything is about the collapse. The adrenaline that anything can blow up anytime soon. that's the feeling we crave for

  • @mystikmush4979
    @mystikmush4979 8 месяцев назад +31

    Hear me out...
    Buy two 1.8L VW beetles', convert them to beach buggies and see who can put the biggest engine in em. 👀
    They're cheap as hell here in South Africa. We've put old BMW seats in one of ours and upgraded the suspension on the other.
    I think you guys would love just how customizable they are.
    Love the videos. Keep up the hard work guys!

    • @Ambrose4k
      @Ambrose4k 8 месяцев назад +1

      my Grandpa had 15 vw bugs on his property just rodding away, they where so cheap back in the day if they broke you would get a new one for 300$

    • @mystikmush4979
      @mystikmush4979 8 месяцев назад

      ​@Ambrose4k right😂 and they're really fun when you swap a 2.5T Forester motor one. Over a hundred horsepower in something that only weighs a couple hundred kg's.
      They rip!

    • @Ambrose4k
      @Ambrose4k 8 месяцев назад

      @@mystikmush4979 2.5 t are like $10k+ the wiring head ache you have to do, and what about the transmission i know its not the stock one right?

    • @mystikmush4979
      @mystikmush4979 8 месяцев назад

      @@Ambrose4k sorry if that came across a little misleading. I haven't swapped the 2.5t in one, I've only seen something similar.
      And you're right, it must have been a headache and a half XD

  • @Lorgs1
    @Lorgs1 8 месяцев назад +36

    You've done pretty much all you can on the inside, so now the outside needs some love. Would be awesome to see in black wrap with yellow detailing, and a body kit

    • @rodolfoo3015
      @rodolfoo3015 8 месяцев назад +2

      Not the ricer yellow details 😭

    • @Dr904
      @Dr904 8 месяцев назад

      With some nice yellow underglow too. Making it look like it belongs in 2 Fast 2 Furious!

    • @rodolfoo3015
      @rodolfoo3015 8 месяцев назад

      @@Dr904 like it belongs to the police impound lot. Underglow even if off is ilegal and not worth the risk. But imma be honest with underglow it would be nice.

  • @VincentWachira
    @VincentWachira 7 месяцев назад

    Justin and Job are the Engineers. Makes sense to have them during such events.

  • @dfk09
    @dfk09 8 месяцев назад

    Me warning the Civic Type R driver before the race: "Don't do it Jesse, I bet he's got more than a $100 grand under the hood of that car!" Well, at least $50 grand. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Ssshrugs
    @Ssshrugs 8 месяцев назад +72

    Damn, Jerry really looked like a race car driver out there. He drove so goddamn fast

    • @the_wiki9408
      @the_wiki9408 8 месяцев назад +9

      never did win no checkered flags, but he never did come in last?

    • @dividad1
      @dividad1 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@the_wiki9408Jerry was a race car driver
      He'd say "El Sob number one"
      With a Bocephus sticker on his 442
      He'd light 'em up just for fun

    • @christianramirez7885
      @christianramirez7885 8 месяцев назад

      Bro was whipping in the canyons in the type R lol

  • @jackpost760
    @jackpost760 8 месяцев назад +4

    I must admit this video series has come around for me. At the start of you guys messing with the cheap Honda I mainly skipped over all these videos but the last 2-3 I have been surprisingly excited for when it comes across my homepage.

  • @cccc285
    @cccc285 6 месяцев назад

    The little edit at 3:40 comparing the civics sounds was great

  • @emilianotca
    @emilianotca 6 месяцев назад

    Fifty thousand bucks, but one also has to factor in the cost of building it if they're not experienced in mechanics and/or don't have the tools to get it done. I really wish the old civic had beaten the new type R, but let's face it: it makes sense that it didn't. Loved the project though, and definitely would like to see more videos of this beast!

    • @malaki4519
      @malaki4519 5 месяцев назад

      It makes no sense. Yes these guys have a FULL team of mechanics. They built the motor themselves. They wasted wayyyy to much money. Pointless things and didn’t even put full effort. Just threw dumb stuff at it. Could’ve at least boosted if they didn’t do that intake. Plus the interior screw the recaros and get momo jegs ikon sparco nrg. Literally any of them and got more for the interior. Do suede yourself and clean then spray the carpet. Add a touchscreen and backup camera. Use a pillar instead of throwing those gauges there

  • @archiesams9555
    @archiesams9555 8 месяцев назад +81

    Gotta respect the effort on the older civic man

    • @losSoCalMTB
      @losSoCalMTB 8 месяцев назад +1

      Now that they did a "good" tuner car, they should do a bad one. Like hypothetically you inherit a car from your grandma and start dumping paychecks into it.

    • @joshuafallet5690
      @joshuafallet5690 8 месяцев назад

      They already did that with the wrx bruv ​@@losSoCalMTB

  • @KuKicks
    @KuKicks 8 месяцев назад +11

    50k and no turbo on the older civic?!

    • @drewh22
      @drewh22 8 месяцев назад

      Seriously. Did not do a great job in terms of performance per dollar... But I guess the FL5 isn't great performance per dollar compared to the Fk8, so it makes it more fair

  • @evanfrechette6437
    @evanfrechette6437 8 месяцев назад

    I bought a eg civic coupe just before you released your first video with the 500$ civic, and this series has been very inspiring and given me pots of ideas for my build great job donut

  • @bootska
    @bootska 8 месяцев назад

    I’ve had the pleasure of having Jeremiah thrash me around a track. I know he was slinging Nolan all over those canyons. 😂😂😂😂

  • @jacobscott1309
    @jacobscott1309 8 месяцев назад +27

    Now....add boost to the EG!
    Not a turbo, but a supercharger. I bet that Type R will be put on point!

  • @SurferSandman
    @SurferSandman 8 месяцев назад +18

    This episode makes me happy. It may not make financial sense, but the drama and excitement of the EG is just what driving fun.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 8 месяцев назад +1

      True. This episode alone is 10/10.

    • @Jimster481
      @Jimster481 8 месяцев назад

      This Episode like 1/10 honestly. Just showing what Honda marketing dollars do with a big channel like Donut media.

  • @mizinoinovermyhead.7523
    @mizinoinovermyhead.7523 8 месяцев назад

    Guys, weld the seams. You still have some work that can be done. Stiffening the chassis will complement the suspension upgrades you've already done. I'm not sure there is enough to make up the missing time, but would be worth checking out.

  • @matthewsanchez8624
    @matthewsanchez8624 8 месяцев назад

    I remember when people were turbocharging the d15 making 200 hp. Even with a d16z6 swap that hatch is fast. Can’t beat the joy of driving a 2000lb car with any swap really.

  • @apollo7557
    @apollo7557 8 месяцев назад +18

    Jerimah telling the new civic to relax is incredibly relatable. I hate having my car scream at me for stuff I’m doing 😭

  • @michaelblaes9847
    @michaelblaes9847 8 месяцев назад +21

    My favorite build by Donut! They need to pick their track days better. Why even try in the rain. Donut has the money to reschedule. The old civic has a hundred less horsepower and was only two seconds off the pace. Very impressive. More please!

    • @jordan7290
      @jordan7290 8 месяцев назад +1

      Well if donut actually could prep the car properly suspension brakes etc. they should be better on pace with each other.

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 8 месяцев назад +1

      Tell us about this time machine you have in order to know the weather in advance please

    • @ThorOdinson-zc2kq
      @ThorOdinson-zc2kq 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@cenciende9401it’s simple, when it rains you reschedule, every track has that policy

    • @Jotomoz
      @Jotomoz 8 месяцев назад

      Tuned NA K swap runs 0-60 in under 4s. With ac and power steering no weight reduction. I think Donut got played in this build for that price. Cost just over 10 large to get under 4s.

  • @Ironyote
    @Ironyote 8 месяцев назад

    6:11 was such pure fun and adrenaline. This is what cars are all about!

  • @ImportAl
    @ImportAl 8 месяцев назад +1

    As the owner of a '93 EG hatch and a '17 FK8 Civic Type R, this is my Super Bowl! 🏆

    • @ImportAl
      @ImportAl 8 месяцев назад

      @DonutGiveaway.. Cool! LMK how to get in touch, LOVE Donut, you guys rock.

  • @YourScaryMother
    @YourScaryMother 8 месяцев назад +12

    I think it's pretty impressive that for a similar amount, you can build an older car out and come that close to lap times, even though the new car is turbocharged and has all the tech (traction control, etc.) that *should* give it more of an edge than it does

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 месяцев назад +6

      Agreed, as someone who had driven his fair share of cars, between a fast insulated spaceship vs a visceral H shift fun car that is only a second or so slower (I know that's an eternity in a real road race) I'll take the slower analog fun car every time for my trackday toy. You are a part of the car and just know everything it's doing, that analog symbiotic experience of actually shifting gears and hearing the ICE scream with a cable throttle is something that can never be replicated properly with electrons and actuators.

    • @misterpister
      @misterpister 8 месяцев назад +1

      Very true! Plus, I don't think you'd need to spend a similar amount and come close to lap times... I think it could have been done for a little bit cheaper.

    • @nonstopqs4188
      @nonstopqs4188 8 месяцев назад +3

      except, they could've also gone with a completely different, cheaper build that would've smoked the type r. this is for the views though, and it's entertaining so I'm not mad. ik if the choices of parts were up to the guys still it'd probably be a different outcome, but ik the higher ups wanted this🥲

    • @downsouthlouisiana
      @downsouthlouisiana 8 месяцев назад

      It's a short track. The new civic would have a much bigger lead if the track was longer.

    • @raimondnu3
      @raimondnu3 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@nonstopqs4188 I totally agree! I immediately thought they did a stock k24a2 turbo build, when they mentioned k20A and ITB i was hoping they at least matched the HP of the CTR. But I guess they figured weight vs power ratio in the factor. Surprisingly, if they threw some drag cartel cams in there and not spent $18K on misc. it would of been faster than the CTR which is wild!

  • @Maksimov1337
    @Maksimov1337 8 месяцев назад +4

    Lets just take a moment to aknowledge how the brand new Type R is an absolutely astounding hot hatch, true to form straight out of the box when so many other manufacturers are focusing more on gadgets than actual driving experience.
    Well done Honda, bless you!

  • @ericsmith8129
    @ericsmith8129 8 месяцев назад

    I’d like to see a video where you build a car to beat the newer one on the track but for the least amount of money possible. No fancy seats or interiors, just fast parts.

  • @zacharymartin6069
    @zacharymartin6069 2 месяца назад

    “We’re Honda boys I really fell in love with Hondas in this car” while in a 2024 civic type R. Sir you are not a Honda boy 🤣🤣

  • @kossttb
    @kossttb 8 месяцев назад +4

    that's like a warm family moment right there. even James' father would be proud.

  • @Famous352
    @Famous352 8 месяцев назад +14

    Cool build, but something just seems off about the Eg build power wise. Personally have built/have seen stock k20s make 230-240hp with LESS mods & gone faster on pump 93. Cool car nevertheless, glad to see you guys enjoying it 👍.

    • @Bacongrease00
      @Bacongrease00 8 месяцев назад

      Tune ? Cam timing?

    • @daddy9495
      @daddy9495 8 месяцев назад

      I’m wondering if they tuned it or just used plug and play parts

  • @roger_that0459
    @roger_that0459 8 месяцев назад

    “It’s not about the destination, it’s about the Journey to get there”

  • @jaankuus3063
    @jaankuus3063 2 месяца назад

    Donut has become a new Top Gear. Take some inspiration and you too can conquer the world. I always liked the news segment of the show.

  • @coelhovinicius140
    @coelhovinicius140 8 месяцев назад +5

    With the older one, you can also have reasonable fun while not going that far into the build. And even if you do, theres more room to get it where you want, not only in esthetics but also performance, maybe with some more wheel time and suspension/tire setuping the gap might get closer and youll end up with a car that fits you like a glove. But if you ask me, this whole process IS the fun, and doing it with such an expansive car that have (and activally does) a lot of choices
    (Like the active suspension thing) to me its very counter productive in my eyes.

  • @THPcars
    @THPcars 8 месяцев назад +5

    Nahh bruv pass me keys I'll beat that fk8 in the EG 😂

    • @t.j1357
      @t.j1357 8 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂

  • @jeffarcher400
    @jeffarcher400 8 месяцев назад

    All that bling and no turbo?
    You're killing me.
    Take the stock car and $5000 and give it to the homeboys.
    Turbo and nitrous. Cya!

  • @RallycrossGT
    @RallycrossGT 2 месяца назад

    modifying an older car into something fun and powerful is a low more rewarding than just buying a powerful car

  • @JDMsolstice
    @JDMsolstice 8 месяцев назад +3

    The eg6 hatch got me into cars. I remember Speed Factory Racing running a 10sec quarter mile with a turbo single cam hatch back in the day. Blew my mind. I loved this series. Mad nostalgia.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 месяцев назад

      Especially when they had the OG Honda swap nerd Brian Gillespie help with their K swap, that man is a god to us old JDM heads just like Dori Dori and Dave Coleman.

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 8 месяцев назад

      Speedfactory sure got a lot more out of their hatch than 10 seconds until they wrecked it Haven’t heard much about them since.

  • @6401gabriel
    @6401gabriel 8 месяцев назад +9

    I feel like you guys need to make a hi/low season with muscle cars, maybe drag racers, or a muscle car money pit. Hopefully with superchargers since I believe the only video about a supercharger was the one from wish.

    • @jerrylancaster256
      @jerrylancaster256 8 месяцев назад

      I Feel like a pair of blazers or s10s would be perfect

  • @Biodebatable
    @Biodebatable 7 месяцев назад

    Reckon that the paint needs some love, keep the colour as it feels perfect for the car but some paint repair, decals, headlight love,and perhaps a body kit (rocket bunny style). I can't stress enough how much I want to see the colour maintened though. The turquoise and yellow work so well together

  • @joshuaguzman5152
    @joshuaguzman5152 5 месяцев назад

    I love these videos!!!❤ I enjoy watching you guys take an old car and turn it into this fun car thar can keep up with newer cars,keep these videos Coming, I'd like to see more subaru legacy gt wagons,rsx,infinitis ,even and old mercedes 2005 and older,what about a old yaris.

  • @Acv2_Yadri
    @Acv2_Yadri 8 месяцев назад +10

    Awesome series! Hope this isn’t the end of that old civic

  • @OutrideMaro
    @OutrideMaro 8 месяцев назад +4

    10:15 I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SAME PERSON ALL ALONG LMFAO

  • @deadpixe1tv
    @deadpixe1tv 8 месяцев назад

    You guys just built my dream EG, imagine it all black with yellow straps and/or external details... (and a proper hood cover lol)

  • @izso_racenotrice
    @izso_racenotrice 8 месяцев назад

    I say do more "old" vs "new" vids man. This stuff is awesome!

  • @caseyfelella7450
    @caseyfelella7450 8 месяцев назад +17

    Absolutely do more! It's calling for a beautiful body kit and and sweet paint job/wrap.

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 8 месяцев назад +10

    If you guys didn’t have to cut the hood this civic would be a great sleeper

  • @alexsanders6149
    @alexsanders6149 8 месяцев назад

    Guys brought a knife to a gun fight and came sooo close! Turbo that hatch and let's see an apples to apples comparison!

  • @kibawhitefang7176
    @kibawhitefang7176 8 месяцев назад

    Workwear by _Donut_ ??? Now that’s something I do want to check out for sure.

  • @keanvanderwesthuizen3476
    @keanvanderwesthuizen3476 8 месяцев назад +12

    Dude the amount of effort you put in that little civic I'm fricken impressed the time difference is awesome great job guys I think you spent some good money on that civic but it can do better 😊

  • @icydawn
    @icydawn 8 месяцев назад +7

    Loved this series and I hope to see more like it!