I purchased one. I took delivery on March 28th. I traded in a Mercedes Benz B Class. I didn't really like the front end, but it has grown on me over the time that I had to wait for it to be delivered. But I think that it's its weakest point. Family and colleagues think it's very sophisticated looking and my brother and sister in law think it's nicer than my B Class. The interior blows me away. The ride blows me away. The build quality blows me away. My gas gauge has not moved since I took delivery. I purchased a GT model not a GT Premium which is what is shown in the video. The only difference is that you don't get the upgraded leather seats, massaging front seats, 4 way lumbar support instead of 2 way. By the way, I purchased this with the intent of using it as a two row vehicle. I doubt the third row will ever be used. However, there is a video on RUclips where they load 7 adults in and head to Starbucks, so it can be done if all three rows compromise on the leg room. It rides great on the highway, which is when I put it into Power mode. When not highway driving, I drive it in EV mode all the time and it easily charges to full overnight on a regular three pronged plug in my garage.
Mitsubishi got it right. I am buying this car as I can use it as a generators to run my home and or shop.. I live in South Africa and we have planned black outs of 6-10hourse per day. I can fast charge it inbetween black outs . Well done sir's.
I really appreciate that you review isn’t just a bunch of parroted observations like so many others, and that you dig in and give your own informed, subjective, opinions about both fit and finish and the driving experience. Excellent, and very informative.
A great review! I have a 2023 Outlander phev GT model and we love it. On EV mode using adaptive cruise control, eco, coasting as much as possible, and regenerative braking and often one pedal driving which will stop the car when there's a vehicle in front we have never achieved less than 72 km on battery alone and have often exceeded 90 km on battery alone. Fuel economy when the battery is depleted on the highway using traction and charging we are getting seven and a half liters to 100 km without using charging and traction on the highway at 100 km an hour we're getting 6.1 L to 100 km. The car will charge from 0 to 80% at idle and approximately 80 minutes using 2 L of fuel. The right is firm and quiet on decent new asphalt using the Nexen Roadian tires which have excellent rolling resistance as per Consumer Reports testing. Recharge at home all the time and have never used fast charger. This is a fine car with every conceivable option that one can have. I do recommend the GT premium model for a few hundred dollars extra as I do think it does have a more luxury appearance to it however we are very happy with our GT model.
The Outlander is more beautiful, modern, has seat massage, very nice and interesting instrument panel and looks more expensive, even though it is cheaper than Rav4. I am planning to buy Outlander.
@highbrassrule I turn on A/C through the app when parked in DC, and the car is cold inside with 95+F outside, when we start driving. It is not economical for long distanse driving but perfect for daily 2.5 hrs drive.
David, Excellent detailed review on the two vehicles. I must agree with you on your analysis. It would be good to see Mitsubishi expand again in North America with their more upscale models. As you know, they sell many small cars and larger trucks in Japan.
Big improvement in your presentation, really excellent, I give David an A- . I don't see anyone else bringing the relevant details to a review that you do.
Very nice review, you mentioned the differences that almost all other reviews fail to mention (critically the Outlander is an EV that tries to stay in EV mode; Prime is just a hybrid). Real world low km efficiency numbers would have been a nice addition.
I had the 2007 outlander gt with 145,000 miles zero problem when my daughter totaled it. Love the AWD and reliability. I bought my daughter a new crv which is also reliable but having driven both in snow and ice I think the outlander is better. Ride quality I feel CRV is better.
This is the best unbiased comparison I have seen so far. Between the outlander and rav 4 prime. I like how you also touched on the manufacturing quality between the nissan rogue or t33 x-trail vs the 2022 phev outlander in North america. The rogue is built in the US and the outlander is built in Japan. The outlander has superior built quality than the nissan rogue , people are always quick to say that the outlander is just another nissan rogue just because they share the same platform , in reality they are totally different. Mitsubishi has a much more sophisticated all wheel drive system compared to nissan. The e power nissan rogue and Mitsubishi phev system in the outlander are totally different. You are also the first to point out that the rav 4 interior is a bit outdated compared to the outlander. Overall I think Mitsubishi is on the right track in phev design. Mitsubishi should definitely design a phev lancer evolution and have limited numbers just to please the fans. A car company should always have a halo product even if they are produced in limited quality
I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 2 weeks ago - local dealer had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. I got it for $1,200 UNDER MSRP. I have driven 550 miles and still have half a tank of gas. I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated, steering wheel, heated seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display AND massaging seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety." Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY. ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3" -- I am frustrated by all the RUclips videos that do not share this critical information. I do not need a 3rd row, so I partially "fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack items on the folded 3rd row! The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k. I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). Lastly, my home solar panels will be installed in 6 weeks. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023. UPDATE -- the local dealer now has 14 Outlander PHEVs on the lot and offering $1,250 off MSRP. www.mitsubishiofcolumbus.com/new/mitsubishi-outlander-phev-columbus.htm
I agree with you. I just got mine a few weeks ago and I' happy with it. My local dealer had a bunch for weeks I kept seeing it for weeks while driving by the dealership and decided to stop and get one. I'm still trying to figure out the most efficient why to drive it. But overall I love it.
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Great video thank you. Please consider doing a real world EV Range test on both vehicles. Mitsubishi claimed range of 61kms is way too low as many other youtubers are getting 90 to 100kms after a full charge a d 65 to 70 Kms in winter weather.
Great review that is different than other standard reviews. Love the attention on fit and finish. Re: comparing mileage and EV range between the two from the official numbers, I believe as a 7-passenger the testing assumes 7 passengers while the RAV4 as a 5-passenger is assumed with 4 passengers, so that explains partly why even though the battery is larger on the Mitsu, the NRC rating has less range than the RAV. The Mitsu is also 500 lbs heavier in gross vehicle weight. But I agree with your conclusion, at the end of the day, close enough in the real world to be considered the same.
Same with Mitsubishi not sure why you mentioned in specific to RAV4, PHEV does works in EV later switched to HEV in real world many getting 6L/100KM once the battery is depleted though official number speaks something else.. also with innovate pedal one to couple of hours drive it is adding back the mileage range what else anyone what ? its also very powerful agreed that RAV4 got 300+ hp while this got 258 HP but more than enough i believe.. remembers these are not for sports :)
David, great review & your eye for detail is excellent. One question I may have - I have booked an outlander PHEV, as my second vehicle, however wanting to switch the OEM all-seasons tires to All-weather tires so that it gives more flexibility & can drive down to whistler when needed. What are your thoughts or recommendations? Thank you in advance.
Great review and comparison. What a lot people would want to know is the fuel economy in hybrid mode(when the batteries drop below ev only mode charge level). The official numbers are 9L/100Kms which leaves a lot to be desired but would be great to have some real world numbers too.
I was excited about the Outlander PHEV for a year until I saw the official EPA numbers. It's actually worse on the HWY than the petrol version. Why not buy a hybrid power train from another company if they can't improve fuel mileage over a pure combustion engine? So disappointing...
@@ryanbohl2150 PHEV version in most cases will be less fuel efficient because it is heavier by having to toss the high voltage system including heavy battery while the fossil version does not have to do that. This is valid for Outlander PHEV and also for RAV4 Prime where both have equivalent ICE versions. However, if you compare petrol version to PHEV, then the petrol car will be horrible in the city driving. If most of your trips are in the city, then PHEV will be incomparably better. Note that EPA numbers are just numbers. For example, they claim that a typical Outlander PHEV fuel consumption is ~9 l/100km while people in real life get more like 7 l/100km. The same car in other countries is rated for 80+ km EV only range vs. ~60 km by EPA. So basically the actual range you can get will depend on how you actually drive the car and it may not match the EPA estimates at all.
@@dkostasx I agree that PHEVs are slightly less efficient than a hybrid counterpart but I have never seen another one less efficient on HWY than it's pure ICE equivalent. I looked up the RAV 4 and the prime is more efficient on HWY than ICE version. With the Outlander, the combined rating for the ICE AWD is the exact same as PHEV so even in city driving, it is very similar. I know it's possible to do better than EPA ratings but the RAV 4 prime and Escape PHEVs were significantly better in the same testing. I love everything about the Outlander PHEV except how efficient it is. I don't expect it to match the Rav 4 prime since it's slightly bigger but it has to be better than comparable ICE vehicles when battery power runs out.
Thanks a lot for great info .. finally have seen Outlander PHEV comparison 😍 ! For sure Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV did perfect job this time a great come back. I am hearing 6 months to 1 year is the wait time from many dealerships 100's of people in wait list.
Driving dynamics are a lot better in Tarmac mode as you said, but one thing to mention this seems to reduce the MPG and forces the engine on even with regenerative braking set to 0. I wish you could drive in tarmac mode without the engine turning on as otherwise the steering is way too light.
Overall value Mitsubishi better than Rav4 prime but since Toyota does better marketing and provides wide range of services because of that resale value better in Rav4 prime .
How does an outdated Rav have better re sale value than a newly designed Outlander, the only true PHEV that is not driven by a CVT or auto in the complete car market? You do realise the Mitsi Outlander PHEV has been around since 2013.. Toyota Rav4 have only just puzzled up this PHEV to get market presence. Still, unfortunately for Toyota, their RAV4 sales will not reach the Outlander sales this time round until they do bring out the next generation Rav4 and maybe will have a chance.
Excellent review, Dave. One point not mentioned - The Outlander has a panoramic roof that the RAV4 Prime doesn't. Maybe you thought it wasn't necessary to mention, as the roof above the rear row (hence, panoramic) was visible behind you all along.
I agree with you, but it depends on the models. In Canada, all but the lowest model of Outlander PHEV have the panoramic roof. On the other hand, only R4P XSE with Technology Package has the panoramic roof. So, definitely a plus point for Outlander.
I like that you mention the paint. Definitely never a deal breaker but it's very rarely mentioned, and does give you a general idea of the fit and finish. Been really impressed so far in my research with the feature set on the Outlander. Just wish you could buy it in a higher trim level without a giant sunroof, and also it would be amazing to be able to buy it without the 3rd row of seats for extra space. I know there were overseas models in a 2 row format so it would be cool to get it in Canada. Overall though it looks like a winner. Really like their approach to the drivetrain, the way they've arranged the 2 electric motors and the gas engine is really smart in terms of keeping the battery charged and integrating the gas engine in a way that doesn't make the car lurch and stuff, the way some other hybrids do. I don't think any other PHEVs use a system like this. Cool review!
Great review that makes me consider this Mitsu to replace my wife 19 Subaru crosstrek to gain space, ground clearance and plug-in things no one offers without braking the bank. But dependability is my big concern, resale value for sure won’t be there , would it be on the road 5 years from now at 20k/ year? Interior looks great not crazy about exterior, being the rogue sister scares me the most knowing the Nissan record
We were a bit shortchanged in the N.A. The Japan, and I think NZ/Australia, also, market(s) the lower element of the headlight is lense instead of a reflector. Just the lower element inside the housing.
outlander since the introduction of the previous chassis version has been the only non-premium priced SUV that you can drive sporty with that rear wheel driven balance where understeer does not annoy you at every turn. Of course at these power levels you only get to experience it in slippery conditions like snow and sand, or really wet (flooded) asphalt.
I may also add, in Canada, if you want a Toyota Rav4 Prime, you have to give deposit and wait 3 years. Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 is 6 to 12 months. Even the Kia Sportage PHEV 2023 everyone is jumping on it due to its new big large 'mercedes benz screen' , at least 1.5 years of waiting. I think anyone in the market for a plug-in hybrid should immediately deposit and jump into the outlander phev before everyone jumps on it. Last month i gave a deposit for the cosmic blue with grey leather , GT trim as it was the best value. Can't wait to get it.
WHAT!! I don’t know what part of Canada your from but in Québec there is a $500 deposit when ordering and then I waited 18 months for my R4P which is the same amount of time for pretty much all PHEV’s.
I'm curious over two things. 1. how reliable are these CVT's? I've read they're similar to Nissans CVT's, but still different. Different how so? I imagine in a good way? 2. I notice the mpg shows listing such as "GAS ONLY" 26, and the EV has a range of 38, give or take. Does the vehicle not have a combined hybrid mode to assist both gas and EV? I thought the regular gas Outlander is 24city/30hwy combined 26/27. Is the PHEV in hybrid mode really just 26 also?
@@juanduarte7119 Thank you, I looked it up further and it looks like a single speed with a clutch pack that engages if it really needs it, thank you for answering.
I like the idea Nissan used in the X-Trail/Qashqai (I'm British...) where they use the engine only as a generator to power the batteries, but prefer the Mitsubishi idea of a larger battery and plug-in charging. As both companies are part of an alliance, and the X-Trail and Outlander both share the same underpinnings, you'd think it would be possible. I worked for Nissan UK for nearly 30 years, and had a Citroen C-Crosser (an Outlander built with Citroen badges by Mitsubishi), a 2.2 diesel Outlander, and an early Outlander PHEV. Now I have a Nissan Leaf and a BMW X5, but would rather have one car, and the new Outlander PHEV looks very close to what I may choose for my next vehicle.
I currently drive 2022 Rav4 XSE Hybrid and want to go plug-in Hybrid. I am torn between Rav4 Prine and Outlander PHEV. I am very concerned with Outlander PHEV fuel efficiency VS Rav4 Prime. I drive aprx 100miles per day... but at the same time, don't feel like paying mark up for the Prine when I can get PHEV about 2-3k under MSRP....(BTW 3rd is Cab only be used for emergencies)
The one thing you forgot to mention is the Mitsubishi Outlander if it does run out of batteries it can run on just the gas engine and charge the battery at the same time. Or you have the option to just use the generator
I have Outlander 2016 v6 with Auto 6 speed , super strong for me. I rarely need more than 3000rpm. After 100k km it is still 0 problems. I would trust Mit again. I still have original battery and brake pads after 6 years in cold weather. Some complaints: bad design A corner, it's block the view. Very outdated screen with lack most information, compare to my 2014 crosstrek.
Keep in mind that the EPA test for the battery only range is done with 7 passengers for 7 passenger vehicles, but 4 passengers for 5 passenger vehicles. So that 61km is estimated with an extra 450lbs or so in the vehicle. That 61/68 in the real world is much closer than you would think and likely the Outlander actually goes a longer battery distance.
That doesnt seem right ie 7 persons vs 5 person argument. The curb weight of the outlander is 400 pounds heavier than the Prime. That explains difference in ev range.
A few misinformation in the video. The outlander only has 2 engines. The prime has three. The gas engine turns on a lot more on the outlander vs the prime as the outlander gas engine acts like a generator which charges the battery the prime doesnt engage the engine until needed or when it gets cold outside.the gas mileage if the outlander is significantly higher than the prime as well. 9 litres /100 km combined vs 6 litres / 100 km for the Prime.
@@kmasonschecter That narrative was perpeturaed by a youtube mitubishi sales man who’s channel seem to have disappeared. As far as I can tell it's false. Some research will lead you to find that EPA tests for EV/PHEV are done per SAE J1634 Standard, which specify some load but far from fully loaded.
I think you are spreading misinfomration not this Gentleman. In Rav4 prime the engines are engaged more frequently than Outlanders. Why? The max speed in EV mode in Rav 4 is only about 110 K/H however, while it is 130K/h in Outlander. So Rav4 needs ICE to power up but not the outlander. You can stop the outlander from Charging the batteries using the gas engine. The arguemnt of 7 person is very true, because most of the people driving Outlander in the hybrid mode gets around 5/6 L/ 100 Km, including myself while driving with three people in the car. Also, Outlander is a way larger car , that is why it is a tad heavier, than Rav4 and gives you more comfort than the crammed cabin in Rav4. For this very important comfort, 1 or 2 litres extra does not even count. Rav4 prime is just electrified Rav4 with the dull driving that is suitable for taxi drivers , not a family. As mentioned on this review , the rear engine is more powerful than the front in Outlander and this is what you see in Luxury cars making the driving experience way more enjoyable than Rav 4. Having more electric engines does not make it a better car although the Toyota itself says Rav4 prime has only two electric motors not three. I guess your found it in many non-reliable sourses that it has three engines. In total, it has three engines not three elecric. Even if it has , the driving is dull and like other Rav4s. Dont forget also the unexpected corrosion of a high-voltage cable in Rav 4 that happens all the time in cold weather. I heard people got standed for hours in the middle of no where in the cold becuase of this failure. At this time, Toyota not has yet solved the problem. @@jayshahu
Mitsubishi car always number one very best car in driving performance comparison handling interior modern futuristic design advance technology world champion rally car
I will say 三菱重工(Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd) is always reliable. I read lots of algorithmic papers they publish in academia long time ago, no doubt they can easily handle this piece of cake. But my only concern is whether it’s worthy to spending 50k+ cash on Mitsubishi, instead of some luxurious brands like Tesla or Benz by borrowing some loads.
I have my 2016 GT Outlander and I would say, a very good to have especially in snow, very dependable and reliable, pioneer in AWD System that introduced the S-AWC!!
I’ve never really been into Mitsubishi’s like this and I would always give them crap about their quality but they did an excellent job with this Outlander I’m even considering it.
I've owned 3 Mitsubishis in my lifetime. All very reliable. Now just bought my 4th, the Outlander PHEV.. And everytime I tune into a RUclips video about it, I find out something else that blows me away. One of the best engineered vehicles on the road, in my opinion.
Thank you for you insight, I definetely agree with you all the way the Rav4 is uncomparable to all th3 other SUV's in its class it looks to me that they relyed especially on its reputation and durability than anything else. The interior and the screen display is a joke plus they aren't even available anyway. I also heard that they had a big problem with the Rav 4 hybrid version regarding an anomalies with the main cables gpt over heated had to be replaced in many cars which resulted in a 7000$ r3pare that is not covered by the warenty , I 2onder if you can Shedd some light on this issue. Thank you
61km EV range? Our brochure says 84km EVand some days our car see over 90km EV range. Does that mean the Outlander is the real Optimus Prime and the Toyota should be called the Rav4 budget hybrid ?
Look at actual used figures both in the Southern Hemispher and North America. People every where are getting 70+ in EV and 30+ US mpg. Believe these. Frankly the 680 kg in North America stinks but in the S H it is 1600 kg. It should be rated at 1100kg.
There are videos on youtube that show the non-hybrid version of outlander in certain off road conditions e.g. diagnol test, unfortunately the outlander fails the test while subaru passes it. It seems that AWD system of non-hybrid outlander, coupled with CVT is not good for offroad.
They've been making PHEV's since 2013, the Outlander is actually the first SUV to offer a PHEV and it's the best seeling one world wide, also Mitsubishi is known to be reliable in Asian countries IDK why they aren't in America and in other countries.
I own a 2018 Outlander PHEV, which I bought new. The new 2023 model is not of much interest to me. The bigger battery is a plus. The third row seating is a minus - we would never need it - we hardly use the second row. The larger 2.4 l engine is a plus. The fuel economy is a minus - we do long highway trips in the summer and fuel economy is important. The fast charger is no advantage - don't ever use it now - the charging is too expensive and it's not even worth the time to pull off the highway to get a few extra electric km. The 1500 lb towing limit is a big minus and the main reason I'm waiting for the R4P I ordered almost 2 years ago. We'll use the bigger 2500 lb towing limit on the Rav4 Prime to pull a small RV trailer.
David, I am going to go out on a limb and say one thing. In the interests of full disclosure, I will reveal the limb is very short and very sturdy and very, very close to the ground and I will be fully compliant with all safety requirements.😉 I am going to assume that most people buying a hybrid are CONCERNED with fuel efficiency. Not only does the Outlander fall short in initial electric range compared to the RAV4 but it burns 35% more fuel when the electric range is exhausted. In fact, the Mitsubishi burns far more fuel than any other hybrid CUV and most non-hybrid CUVs in this size range. 🤨
Actually Mike, what you are describing doesn't apply to PHEV owners. None of us use any fuel, except to replace the tank of gas every 6 to 8 months to get rid of stale fuel. Our fuel expense last year for the RAV4 Prime was $100 (for the entire year). We buy PHEV in order not to use any fuel at all. So the fuel economy in the hybrid/gas mode is irrelevant for most of us who use PHEV as pure EV cars. It only matters for a short time when we forgot to charge our cars or have to go very long distance... Thanks for your input however.
@@AutomotivePress David, If all your trips are so short you should take the bus or a bicycle😉 26 miles per US gallon when the charge expires is not going to cut it!
@@AutomotivePress I would still use fuel stabilizer that is approved for automotive use if you have the unfortunate ethanol requirement in your region. I use it in my motorcycle when my riding is reduced in the off season. Also use a quality water scavenger now and then. I can tell you I have had expensive damage done to my power equipment because of ethanol. Also it reduced my fuel economy by a couple miles per gallon.
@@rightlanehog3151 But you can do short trips of day in total 38-45 miles everyday In the Mitsi. 99% of people won’t be travelling over 100 miles a day. And not everyone is on a bus route.
Rav4 hybrids and prime have a hybrid cable issues in northern climates. Toyota hasn't even acknowledged the problem and it's an $8000 replacement cost. I have a deposit for a Prime but I am strongly considering the Mitsu now.
@@joe97nsx Very good decision, I have my 2016 GT Outlander White with 75K and didn’t experience any issues and AWD is really effective like based from Lancer EVO.
@@joe97nsx This is old info. Toyota already have a Customer Support Program in the USA which targets this HV cable corrosion issue and includes it into the coverage of the 8 years or 100 000 miles hybrid warranty. Join the toyotacablegate group to see a pinned post with more details.
@@deyan_yosifov I am part of the cablegate group already. That coverage is extended to Rav4 Hybrid vehicles only. There was no announcement for PRIME vehicles. Additionally the 2022/2203 models were not included as they were supposedly not affected even though pictures from owners of those vehicles demonstrate no tangible modifications. When I got an early call from my dealership for taking a 2023 Prime, I rejected it because they told me it was not included as part of the announcement. In fact, they were fairly clueless about the changes in the warranty coverage at all.
Dude I only watched this video because I knew it would end saying the Mitsubishi is better. What a world we’re living in when a Mitsubishi is better than a Toyota. Crappy Jatco CVT, crap fuel economy and a pointless 3rd row seat is better than durability, reliability, dependability and value (specifically resale value) it seems. I’m yet to see a comparison from David between a Toyota and another brand where the Toyota wins. At this rate, a head of cabbage would win a comparison test with a Toyota. Sad but interesting. But, he owns a Toyota. Doesn’t make sense to me but who am I? 😂😂😂😂😂
You do realize that I own 6 Toyota/Lexus models? And I've purchased at least 12 Toyota/Lexus' in the past 5 years. And I've worked for Toyota in the past, and I teach Toyota Production System at colleges and MBA classes. My entire channel has mostly positive Toyota reviews. However, in recent years, Toyota/Lexus models are trailing behind the competitors in many areas. You and viewers want my honest opinion I believe, so I tell the truth just like your name. When Toyota's are better, they are better. But when competitors make better cars, I won't make up a story - I will only tell the real story and my real opinion.
@@AutomotivePress very aware because I’ve been a subscriber of yours for a very long time. It just doesn’t make sense to me why that’s all you own when everything else you compare them to is superior overall.
@@thetruthspeaks8702 There is a difference when it comes to long term ownership. I don't think you actually watched the entire video, because I say very clearly that for long term ownership and reliability, choose the RAV4. For features and luxury experience, choose the Mitsubishi. I buy Toyota's because of loyalty and long term reliability, but it doesn't mean that I am convinced all Toyota's are always better. That is no longer true these days.
@@AutomotivePress Infact on other day I drove RAV4 gasoline 2022 XLE it sounded like a tracker engine when compared to Misubishi Outlander Gasoline 2022 so clam ofcourse power wise RAV4 may win here ... Agreed RAV4 got reliability of long term because of proven engine but mitsubishi too did there home work on engine department bindly cant hate because of Nissan's engine with Mitsubishi tuned CVT engine atleast in PHEV they haven't used nissan's engine instead there own 1 speed gasoline engine. Still ongoing chip shortage not sure by when a Toyota car a customer can get apart for used cars over MSRP prices.
I agree with David. As a long term owner of a Tundra Crewmax I love it. I wouldnt touch a new one. The bean counters are destroying what was great. It was with reluctance I left the brand. It's long storied reliability I fear is no more. They are changing and not for the better in my opinion.
I just booked 2024 Outlander GT-P PHEV, and I'm going to get it in 4 days. Very exciting 🎉❤
I purchased one. I took delivery on March 28th. I traded in a Mercedes Benz B Class. I didn't really like the front end, but it has grown on me over the time that I had to wait for it to be delivered. But I think that it's its weakest point. Family and colleagues think it's very sophisticated looking and my brother and sister in law think it's nicer than my B Class. The interior blows me away. The ride blows me away. The build quality blows me away. My gas gauge has not moved since I took delivery. I purchased a GT model not a GT Premium which is what is shown in the video. The only difference is that you don't get the upgraded leather seats, massaging front seats, 4 way lumbar support instead of 2 way. By the way, I purchased this with the intent of using it as a two row vehicle. I doubt the third row will ever be used. However, there is a video on RUclips where they load 7 adults in and head to Starbucks, so it can be done if all three rows compromise on the leg room. It rides great on the highway, which is when I put it into Power mode. When not highway driving, I drive it in EV mode all the time and it easily charges to full overnight on a regular three pronged plug in my garage.
wrap the chrome in black makes the front end way better
One of the best unbiased reviews i have seen! As they say, Mitsubishi under-promises yet overperforms
Mitsubishi got it right. I am buying this car as I can use it as a generators to run my home and or shop.. I live in South Africa and we have planned black outs of 6-10hourse per day. I can fast charge it inbetween black outs . Well done sir's.
I really appreciate that you review isn’t just a bunch of parroted observations like so many others, and that you dig in and give your own informed, subjective, opinions about both fit and finish and the driving experience. Excellent, and very informative.
A great review! I have a 2023 Outlander phev GT model and we love it. On EV mode using adaptive cruise control, eco, coasting as much as possible, and regenerative braking and often one pedal driving which will stop the car when there's a vehicle in front we have never achieved less than 72 km on battery alone and have often exceeded 90 km on battery alone. Fuel economy when the battery is depleted on the highway using traction and charging we are getting seven and a half liters to 100 km without using charging and traction on the highway at 100 km an hour we're getting 6.1 L to 100 km. The car will charge from 0 to 80% at idle and approximately 80 minutes using 2 L of fuel. The right is firm and quiet on decent new asphalt using the Nexen Roadian tires which have excellent rolling resistance as per Consumer Reports testing. Recharge at home all the time and have never used fast charger. This is a fine car with every conceivable option that one can have. I do recommend the GT premium model for a few hundred dollars extra as I do think it does have a more luxury appearance to it however we are very happy with our GT model.
The Outlander is more beautiful, modern, has seat massage, very nice and interesting instrument panel and looks more expensive, even though it is cheaper than Rav4. I am planning to buy Outlander.
no cooled seats though, i live in virginia and thats a big one for me, usprised they missed that
@highbrassrule I turn on A/C through the app when parked in DC, and the car is cold inside with 95+F outside, when we start driving. It is not economical for long distanse driving but perfect for daily 2.5 hrs drive.
I am planning to buy the RAV4 prime.
David, Excellent detailed review on the two vehicles. I must agree with you on your analysis. It would be good to see Mitsubishi expand again in North America with their more upscale models. As you know, they sell many small cars and larger trucks in Japan.
And Mitsubishi recently won the 2022 AXCR Rally in Thailand.
Big improvement in your presentation, really excellent, I give David an A- .
I don't see anyone else bringing the relevant details to a review that you do.
Very nice review, you mentioned the differences that almost all other reviews fail to mention (critically the Outlander is an EV that tries to stay in EV mode; Prime is just a hybrid). Real world low km efficiency numbers would have been a nice addition.
I had the 2007 outlander gt with 145,000 miles zero problem when my daughter totaled it. Love the AWD and reliability. I bought my daughter a new crv which is also reliable but having driven both in snow and ice I think the outlander is better. Ride quality I feel CRV is better.
This is the best unbiased comparison I have seen so far. Between the outlander and rav 4 prime.
I like how you also touched on the manufacturing quality between the nissan rogue or t33 x-trail vs the 2022 phev outlander in North america. The rogue is built in the US and the outlander is built in Japan.
The outlander has superior built quality than the nissan rogue , people are always quick to say that the outlander is just another nissan rogue just because they share the same platform , in reality they are totally different.
Mitsubishi has a much more sophisticated all wheel drive system compared to nissan. The e power nissan rogue and Mitsubishi phev system in the outlander are totally different.
You are also the first to point out that the rav 4 interior is a bit outdated compared to the outlander.
Overall I think Mitsubishi is on the right track in phev design. Mitsubishi should definitely design a phev lancer evolution and have limited numbers just to please the fans. A car company should always have a halo product even if they are produced in limited quality
I bought my 2023 Outlander PHEV (SEL Premium) 2 weeks ago - local dealer had 7 Outlander PHEVs on the lot. I got it for $1,200 UNDER MSRP. I have driven 550 miles and still have half a tank of gas. I am plugging it in every night for my daily commute and weekend errands. It feels "luxurious" inside -- premium leather, panoramic roof, 360 camera, power folding side mirrors, heated, steering wheel, heated seats, hands-free tailgate, head up display AND massaging seats! If I take a longer drive, I will have no "range anxiety." Plus, the Outlander has a 10-YEAR WARRANTY.
ONE BIG NOTE: the owner's manual clearly states that the 3rd row is ONLY for people under 5' 3" -- I am frustrated by all the RUclips videos that do not share this critical information. I do not need a 3rd row, so I partially "fold" it. This opens up a HUGE, DEEP storage well. And, I can stack items on the folded 3rd row!
The RAV4 Prime may have better overall mpg, but the 18-month wait and $12,000 "dealer adjustment" are outrageous. One local dealer wanted $65k for loaded Prime with MSRP of $52k.
I did not consider Kia or Hyundai brands -- "Kia boys" have stolen 3,000 of them in my area (and assaulted drivers in the process). Lastly, my home solar panels will be installed in 6 weeks. The Outlander PHEV is the PERFECT choice for me in 2023. UPDATE -- the local dealer now has 14 Outlander PHEVs on the lot and offering $1,250 off MSRP. www.mitsubishiofcolumbus.com/new/mitsubishi-outlander-phev-columbus.htm
I agree with you. I just got mine a few weeks ago and I' happy with it. My local dealer had a bunch for weeks I kept seeing it for weeks while driving by the dealership and decided to stop and get one. I'm still trying to figure out the most efficient why to drive it. But overall I love it.
I'd take the Outlander.
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Great video thank you.
Please consider doing a real world EV Range test on both vehicles.
Mitsubishi claimed range of 61kms is way too low as many other youtubers are getting 90 to 100kms after a full charge a d 65 to 70 Kms in winter weather.
Great review that is different than other standard reviews. Love the attention on fit and finish. Re: comparing mileage and EV range between the two from the official numbers, I believe as a 7-passenger the testing assumes 7 passengers while the RAV4 as a 5-passenger is assumed with 4 passengers, so that explains partly why even though the battery is larger on the Mitsu, the NRC rating has less range than the RAV. The Mitsu is also 500 lbs heavier in gross vehicle weight. But I agree with your conclusion, at the end of the day, close enough in the real world to be considered the same.
Thanks alot for your detailed honest revew.
I like Rav4Prime's EV/HEV auto-switching mode which looks very natural. It's always so powerful and efficient regardless of the battery charge level.
Same with Mitsubishi not sure why you mentioned in specific to RAV4, PHEV does works in EV later switched to HEV in real world many getting 6L/100KM once the battery is depleted though official number speaks something else.. also with innovate pedal one to couple of hours drive it is adding back the mileage range what else anyone what ? its also very powerful agreed that RAV4 got 300+ hp while this got 258 HP but more than enough i believe.. remembers these are not for sports :)
Would you say that vehicles built in Japan are better quality vs North American built vehicles?
💯 Deutschland too.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Most definitely.
David, great review & your eye for detail is excellent. One question I may have - I have booked an outlander PHEV, as my second vehicle, however wanting to switch the OEM all-seasons tires to All-weather tires so that it gives more flexibility & can drive down to whistler when needed. What are your thoughts or recommendations? Thank you in advance.
Your reviews are amazing. The problem I have with Mitsubishi is, will it have the reliability that Toyota has? Thank you.
Thanks for another great video David! 🙏
David, great review. I oiled you suggest outlander Phev against regular rav4 hybrid ? I don’t have access to a charger regularly
Great review and comparison. What a lot people would want to know is the fuel economy in hybrid mode(when the batteries drop below ev only mode charge level). The official numbers are 9L/100Kms which leaves a lot to be desired but would be great to have some real world numbers too.
Very true.
RAV4 Prime is significantly more fuel efficient
I was excited about the Outlander PHEV for a year until I saw the official EPA numbers. It's actually worse on the HWY than the petrol version. Why not buy a hybrid power train from another company if they can't improve fuel mileage over a pure combustion engine? So disappointing...
@@ryanbohl2150 PHEV version in most cases will be less fuel efficient because it is heavier by having to toss the high voltage system including heavy battery while the fossil version does not have to do that. This is valid for Outlander PHEV and also for RAV4 Prime where both have equivalent ICE versions. However, if you compare petrol version to PHEV, then the petrol car will be horrible in the city driving. If most of your trips are in the city, then PHEV will be incomparably better.
Note that EPA numbers are just numbers. For example, they claim that a typical Outlander PHEV fuel consumption is ~9 l/100km while people in real life get more like 7 l/100km. The same car in other countries is rated for 80+ km EV only range vs. ~60 km by EPA. So basically the actual range you can get will depend on how you actually drive the car and it may not match the EPA estimates at all.
@@dkostasx I agree that PHEVs are slightly less efficient than a hybrid counterpart but I have never seen another one less efficient on HWY than it's pure ICE equivalent. I looked up the RAV 4 and the prime is more efficient on HWY than ICE version. With the Outlander, the combined rating for the ICE AWD is the exact same as PHEV so even in city driving, it is very similar. I know it's possible to do better than EPA ratings but the RAV 4 prime and Escape PHEVs were significantly better in the same testing. I love everything about the Outlander PHEV except how efficient it is. I don't expect it to match the Rav 4 prime since it's slightly bigger but it has to be better than comparable ICE vehicles when battery power runs out.
Thanks a lot for great info .. finally have seen Outlander PHEV comparison 😍 ! For sure Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV did perfect job this time a great come back. I am hearing 6 months to 1 year is the wait time from many dealerships 100's of people in wait list.
Well our local dealer had 8 on the lot when we.purchased ours in May.
For my feel and look is the new Mazda CX-60 Plug in Hybrid the best in his class, if i compare it with his rivals from Japan.
Driving dynamics are a lot better in Tarmac mode as you said, but one thing to mention this seems to reduce the MPG and forces the engine on even with regenerative braking set to 0. I wish you could drive in tarmac mode without the engine turning on as otherwise the steering is way too light.
Overall value Mitsubishi better than Rav4 prime but since Toyota does better marketing and provides wide range of services because of that resale value better in Rav4 prime .
And I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV anyway.
How does an outdated Rav have better re sale value than a newly designed Outlander, the only true PHEV that is not driven by a CVT or auto in the complete car market?
You do realise the Mitsi Outlander PHEV has been around since 2013.. Toyota Rav4 have only just puzzled up this PHEV to get market presence. Still, unfortunately for Toyota, their RAV4 sales will not reach the Outlander sales this time round until they do bring out the next generation Rav4 and maybe will have a chance.
Excellent review, Dave. One point not mentioned - The Outlander has a panoramic roof that the RAV4 Prime doesn't. Maybe you thought it wasn't necessary to mention, as the roof above the rear row (hence, panoramic) was visible behind you all along.
I agree with you, but it depends on the models. In Canada, all but the lowest model of Outlander PHEV have the panoramic roof. On the other hand, only R4P XSE with Technology Package has the panoramic roof. So, definitely a plus point for Outlander.
David. Fantastic video! Question for you - thoughts on the quality of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV vs the Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV?
An excellent reviev, maybe I‘ll expect the next generation RAV4, with greetings from Austria.
I like that you mention the paint. Definitely never a deal breaker but it's very rarely mentioned, and does give you a general idea of the fit and finish. Been really impressed so far in my research with the feature set on the Outlander. Just wish you could buy it in a higher trim level without a giant sunroof, and also it would be amazing to be able to buy it without the 3rd row of seats for extra space. I know there were overseas models in a 2 row format so it would be cool to get it in Canada.
Overall though it looks like a winner. Really like their approach to the drivetrain, the way they've arranged the 2 electric motors and the gas engine is really smart in terms of keeping the battery charged and integrating the gas engine in a way that doesn't make the car lurch and stuff, the way some other hybrids do. I don't think any other PHEVs use a system like this. Cool review!
Great Review and comparison!
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST ESPECIALLY FOR VALUE. I HAVE OWNED 150 plus cars including top end cars and this is a legit contender.
I love your car motor vehicles comparisons. Keep on turning out great videos!!! #AutomotivePress #CarComparison
Great review 👍 I just bought this vehicle.. feels refined for sure, and I’m getting like 80+ km on ev with the type of driving I’m doing )
Outstanding review David! How would you compare this vehicle to the Kia Sorento PHEV or the Subaru Forester ?
Great review and insights
Thanks a lot, David, for the professional review and honest advice. Tomorrow after work, I will see a Mitsubishi dealer buy one.
Good choice!
I love the car from many aspects, but the dealer support and resale value scares the @$#@#% out of me 🤨
Great review that makes me consider this Mitsu to replace my wife 19 Subaru crosstrek to gain space, ground clearance and plug-in things no one offers without braking the bank. But dependability is my big concern, resale value for sure won’t be there , would it be on the road 5 years from now at 20k/ year? Interior looks great not crazy about exterior, being the rogue sister scares me the most knowing the Nissan record
10 year 160 000km warranty is pretty dam good. That also includes the battery.
It's been the best-selling PHEV in Europe for years. That wouldn't happen if they were unreliable.
Don't do it
We were a bit shortchanged in the N.A. The Japan, and I think NZ/Australia, also, market(s) the lower element of the headlight is lense instead of a reflector. Just the lower element inside the housing.
In terms of efficiency and performance, R4P still the leader of his segment.
Very good explanation 👏
I have a prime, when i press hard on the gas its stay in ev mode and elecric motor dosent come on. Is it the same for outlander phev in ev mode?
Great and honest review, David, thank you! BTW I own a Kia Sorento PHEV, also an excellent Plugin vehicle IMO.
outlander since the introduction of the previous chassis version has been the only non-premium priced SUV that you can drive sporty with that rear wheel driven balance where understeer does not annoy you at every turn. Of course at these power levels you only get to experience it in slippery conditions like snow and sand, or really wet (flooded) asphalt.
I may also add, in Canada, if you want a Toyota Rav4 Prime, you have to give deposit and wait 3 years. Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 is 6 to 12 months. Even the Kia Sportage PHEV 2023 everyone is jumping on it due to its new big large 'mercedes benz screen' , at least 1.5 years of waiting. I think anyone in the market for a plug-in hybrid should immediately deposit and jump into the outlander phev before everyone jumps on it. Last month i gave a deposit for the cosmic blue with grey leather , GT trim as it was the best value. Can't wait to get it.
There are 23 Outlander PHEVs you can buy right now where I am (Calgary).
WHAT!! I don’t know what part of Canada your from but in Québec there is a $500 deposit when ordering and then I waited 18 months for my R4P which is the same amount of time for pretty much all PHEV’s.
I'm curious over two things.
1. how reliable are these CVT's? I've read they're similar to Nissans CVT's, but still different. Different how so? I imagine in a good way?
2. I notice the mpg shows listing such as "GAS ONLY" 26, and the EV has a range of 38, give or take.
Does the vehicle not have a combined hybrid mode to assist both gas and EV?
I thought the regular gas Outlander is 24city/30hwy combined 26/27. Is the PHEV in hybrid mode really just 26 also?
@@juanduarte7119 Thank you, I looked it up further and it looks like a single speed with a clutch pack that engages if it really needs it, thank you for answering.
What’s the difference between the rav 4 built in Canada vs Tennessee? And out of the two.. who builds the rav 4 better aside of Japan?
I like the idea Nissan used in the X-Trail/Qashqai (I'm British...) where they use the engine only as a generator to power the batteries, but prefer the Mitsubishi idea of a larger battery and plug-in charging. As both companies are part of an alliance, and the X-Trail and Outlander both share the same underpinnings, you'd think it would be possible. I worked for Nissan UK for nearly 30 years, and had a Citroen C-Crosser (an Outlander built with Citroen badges by Mitsubishi), a 2.2 diesel Outlander, and an early Outlander PHEV. Now I have a Nissan Leaf and a BMW X5, but would rather have one car, and the new Outlander PHEV looks very close to what I may choose for my next vehicle.
I have driven Mitsubishi Endeavor for over 9 years, outlander PHEV will be my next car.
The Outlander PHEV has been around a lot longer. Those things were hitting the roads in the UK in 2015.
Toyota has been doing hybrids since forever…
@@joseadorno292 not plug in hybrids though there's a huge difference
@@TheKingOfInappropriateComments i can understand but Toyota has been in the game longer. Not in the PHEV game but electrifying vehicles yes.
@@joseadorno292 nobody is talking about hybrids in this video that is outdated legacy technology. This video is about phevs.
@@joseadorno292 Mitsubishi has been experimenting EV's since the 70's, they're one of the first manufacturer to mass produce a BEV.
I currently drive 2022 Rav4 XSE Hybrid and want to go plug-in Hybrid. I am torn between Rav4 Prine and Outlander PHEV. I am very concerned with Outlander PHEV fuel efficiency VS Rav4 Prime. I drive aprx 100miles per day... but at the same time, don't feel like paying mark up for the Prine when I can get PHEV about 2-3k under MSRP....(BTW 3rd is Cab only be used for emergencies)
The one thing you forgot to mention is the Mitsubishi Outlander if it does run out of batteries it can run on just the gas engine and charge the battery at the same time. Or you have the option to just use the generator
I have Outlander 2016 v6 with Auto 6 speed , super strong for me. I rarely need more than 3000rpm. After 100k km it is still 0 problems. I would trust Mit again.
I still have original battery and brake pads after 6 years in cold weather.
Some complaints: bad design A corner, it's block the view. Very outdated screen with lack most information, compare to my 2014 crosstrek.
Get the new gen PHEV with full digital dash, super fast graphics, and heads up display. Problem solved.
@@davidyang577 for $30k more? Sarcasm
@@fmartin59 electric scooter is cheaper
Keep in mind that the EPA test for the battery only range is done with 7 passengers for 7 passenger vehicles, but 4 passengers for 5 passenger vehicles. So that 61km is estimated with an extra 450lbs or so in the vehicle. That 61/68 in the real world is much closer than you would think and likely the Outlander actually goes a longer battery distance.
I’ve read similar comments elsewhere, but I’ve yet to find a primary source for this information. Where did you learn this?
That doesnt seem right ie 7 persons vs 5 person argument. The curb weight of the outlander is 400 pounds heavier than the Prime. That explains difference in ev range.
A few misinformation in the video. The outlander only has 2 engines. The prime has three. The gas engine turns on a lot more on the outlander vs the prime as the outlander gas engine acts like a generator which charges the battery the prime doesnt engage the engine until needed or when it gets cold outside.the gas mileage if the outlander is significantly higher than the prime as well. 9 litres /100 km combined vs 6 litres / 100 km for the Prime.
@@kmasonschecter That narrative was perpeturaed by a youtube mitubishi sales man who’s channel seem to have disappeared. As far as I can tell it's false. Some research will lead you to find that EPA tests for EV/PHEV are done per SAE J1634 Standard, which specify some load but far from fully loaded.
I think you are spreading misinfomration not this Gentleman. In Rav4 prime the engines are engaged more frequently than Outlanders. Why? The max speed in EV mode in Rav 4 is only about 110 K/H however, while it is 130K/h in Outlander. So Rav4 needs ICE to power up but not the outlander. You can stop the outlander from Charging the batteries using the gas engine. The arguemnt of 7 person is very true, because most of the people driving Outlander in the hybrid mode gets around 5/6 L/ 100 Km, including myself while driving with three people in the car. Also, Outlander is a way larger car , that is why it is a tad heavier, than Rav4 and gives you more comfort than the crammed cabin in Rav4. For this very important comfort, 1 or 2 litres extra does not even count. Rav4 prime is just electrified Rav4 with the dull driving that is suitable for taxi drivers , not a family. As mentioned on this review , the rear engine is more powerful than the front in Outlander and this is what you see in Luxury cars making the driving experience way more enjoyable than Rav 4. Having more electric engines does not make it a better car although the Toyota itself says Rav4 prime has only two electric motors not three. I guess your found it in many non-reliable sourses that it has three engines. In total, it has three engines not three elecric. Even if it has , the driving is dull and like other Rav4s. Dont forget also the unexpected corrosion of a high-voltage cable in Rav 4 that happens all the time in cold weather. I heard people got standed for hours in the middle of no where in the cold becuase of this failure. At this time, Toyota not has yet solved the problem. @@jayshahu
We don't need bigger rav4. We need a more affordable highlander.
That's why I will buy a 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
I miss old mitsubishi SUVs. They have completely changed.
Mitsubishi car always number one very best car in driving performance comparison handling interior modern futuristic design advance technology world champion rally car
One question: who wins in reliability
I will say 三菱重工(Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd) is always reliable. I read lots of algorithmic papers they publish in academia long time ago, no doubt they can easily handle this piece of cake. But my only concern is whether it’s worthy to spending 50k+ cash on Mitsubishi, instead of some luxurious brands like Tesla or Benz by borrowing some loads.
Looks good but who buys an Mitsubishi Outlander?
I’ve owned 4 over the past ten years and have zero problems in 200k+ miles.
1 million people bought Mitsubishis last year and over 200K who bought Outlanders last year.
I have my 2016 GT Outlander and I would say, a very good to have especially in snow, very dependable and reliable, pioneer in AWD System that introduced the S-AWC!!
I’ve never really been into Mitsubishi’s like this and I would always give them crap about their quality but they did an excellent job with this Outlander I’m even considering it.
I've owned 3 Mitsubishis in my lifetime. All very reliable. Now just bought my 4th, the Outlander PHEV.. And everytime I tune into a RUclips video about it, I find out something else that blows me away. One of the best engineered vehicles on the road, in my opinion.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Can you still drive the car on gas only if the battery is empty.
Yes, the battery will never be dead, when the battery gets low it works like a series hybrid.
Any "stitching" in a US built interior is also straight. That's how it's molded into the vinyl...
Toyota has a huge line up , I will doubt if they make the rav 4 as big as the outlander or New Rogue.
Thank you for you insight, I definetely agree with you all the way the Rav4 is uncomparable to all th3 other SUV's in its class it looks to me that they relyed especially on its reputation and durability than anything else. The interior and the screen display is a joke plus they aren't even available anyway. I also heard that they had a big problem with the Rav 4 hybrid version regarding an anomalies with the main cables gpt over heated had to be replaced in many cars which resulted in a 7000$ r3pare that is not covered by the warenty , I 2onder if you can Shedd some light on this issue. Thank you
No 2023 Outlander for Europe and the RAV4 prime cost´s over $ 63k
61km EV range? Our brochure says 84km EVand some days our car see over 90km EV range. Does that mean the Outlander is the real Optimus Prime and the Toyota should be called the Rav4 budget hybrid ?
The U.S and Canada both use EPA ratings rather than the WTLP, EPA rates everything lower than WLTP.
Look at actual used figures both in the Southern Hemispher and North America. People every where are getting 70+ in EV and 30+ US mpg. Believe these. Frankly the 680 kg in North
America stinks but in the S H it is 1600 kg. It should be rated at 1100kg.
I have one in the US and am getting close to 60 miles range (nearly 100KM).
No point in comparing to the RAV4 because nobody can currently get one.
There are videos on youtube that show the non-hybrid version of outlander in certain off road conditions e.g. diagnol test, unfortunately the outlander fails the test while subaru passes it. It seems that AWD system of non-hybrid outlander, coupled with CVT is not good for offroad.
Except this video wasn’t about the gas only model, just the PHEV which acts differently than the gas version
The PHEV doesn't have a CVT.
the problem is how all that technology will age
Are Mitsubishi reliable?
I’ve owned 4 over the past ten years and have zero problems in 200k+ miles.
Yes they are
They've been making PHEV's since 2013, the Outlander is actually the first SUV to offer a PHEV and it's the best seeling one world wide, also Mitsubishi is known to be reliable in Asian countries IDK why they aren't in America and in other countries.
I have my 2016 Outlander GT for 75K and counting, so far I haven’t got any issues!
I now own my fourth one a 2023.Outlander PHEV. Do you think I'd keep buying the brand if they were unreliable?
Glad that I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV anyway.
Good choice. I’ve owned 4 over the past 10 years/200k+ miles with zero problems.
Great vid Jackie Chan 😂😂😂
The rav4 does much better gas mileage though. Even the non plug in version does better than the outlander phev.
Your def not getting 100,000-150,000$ value in any mitsu vehicle. Lets be clear there. I do like this truck though
I own a 2018 Outlander PHEV, which I bought new. The new 2023 model is not of much interest to me. The bigger battery is a plus. The third row seating is a minus - we would never need it - we hardly use the second row. The larger 2.4 l engine is a plus. The fuel economy is a minus - we do long highway trips in the summer and fuel economy is important. The fast charger is no advantage - don't ever use it now - the charging is too expensive and it's not even worth the time to pull off the highway to get a few extra electric km. The 1500 lb towing limit is a big minus and the main reason I'm waiting for the R4P I ordered almost 2 years ago. We'll use the bigger 2500 lb towing limit on the Rav4 Prime to pull a small RV trailer.
You can also charge the battery while driving as well
If only it had a spare tire...
Manufacturers are doing away with spare tires, especially in EVs and PHEVs
Correction to my last review traction should read tarmac which is parallel mode
Il n'y a pas de cablegate chez Mitsubishi ($$)...
David, I am going to go out on a limb and say one thing. In the interests of full disclosure, I will reveal the limb is very short and very sturdy and very, very close to the ground and I will be fully compliant with all safety requirements.😉 I am going to assume that most people buying a hybrid are CONCERNED with fuel efficiency. Not only does the Outlander fall short in initial electric range compared to the RAV4 but it burns 35% more fuel when the electric range is exhausted. In fact, the Mitsubishi burns far more fuel than any other hybrid CUV and most non-hybrid CUVs in this size range. 🤨
AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!
Actually Mike, what you are describing doesn't apply to PHEV owners. None of us use any fuel, except to replace the tank of gas every 6 to 8 months to get rid of stale fuel. Our fuel expense last year for the RAV4 Prime was $100 (for the entire year). We buy PHEV in order not to use any fuel at all. So the fuel economy in the hybrid/gas mode is irrelevant for most of us who use PHEV as pure EV cars. It only matters for a short time when we forgot to charge our cars or have to go very long distance... Thanks for your input however.
@@AutomotivePress David, If all your trips are so short you should take the bus or a bicycle😉 26 miles per US gallon when the charge expires is not going to cut it!
@@AutomotivePress I would still use fuel stabilizer that is approved for automotive use if you have the unfortunate ethanol requirement in your region. I use it in my motorcycle when my riding is reduced in the off season. Also use a quality water scavenger now and then. I can tell you I have had expensive damage done to my power equipment because of ethanol. Also it reduced my fuel economy by a couple miles per gallon.
@@rightlanehog3151 But you can do short trips of day in total 38-45 miles everyday In the Mitsi. 99% of people won’t be travelling over 100 miles a day. And not everyone is on a bus route.
Jajaja como pues comparar al Mitsubishi con esa poca cosa simple
I would never consider a Mitsubishi. Dealer network and experience very poor and a very low resale value compared to Toyota.
AND I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2023 OUTLANDER PHEV ANYWAY!
Rav4 hybrids and prime have a hybrid cable issues in northern climates. Toyota hasn't even acknowledged the problem and it's an $8000 replacement cost. I have a deposit for a Prime but I am strongly considering the Mitsu now.
@@joe97nsx Very good decision, I have my 2016 GT Outlander White with 75K and didn’t experience any issues and AWD is really effective like based from Lancer EVO.
@@joe97nsx This is old info. Toyota already have a Customer Support Program in the USA which targets this HV cable corrosion issue and includes it into the coverage of the 8 years or 100 000 miles hybrid warranty. Join the toyotacablegate group to see a pinned post with more details.
@@deyan_yosifov I am part of the cablegate group already. That coverage is extended to Rav4 Hybrid vehicles only. There was no announcement for PRIME vehicles. Additionally the 2022/2203 models were not included as they were supposedly not affected even though pictures from owners of those vehicles demonstrate no tangible modifications. When I got an early call from my dealership for taking a 2023 Prime, I rejected it because they told me it was not included as part of the announcement. In fact, they were fairly clueless about the changes in the warranty coverage at all.
Dude I only watched this video because I knew it would end saying the Mitsubishi is better. What a world we’re living in when a Mitsubishi is better than a Toyota. Crappy Jatco CVT, crap fuel economy and a pointless 3rd row seat is better than durability, reliability, dependability and value (specifically resale value) it seems. I’m yet to see a comparison from David between a Toyota and another brand where the Toyota wins. At this rate, a head of cabbage would win a comparison test with a Toyota. Sad but interesting. But, he owns a Toyota. Doesn’t make sense to me but who am I? 😂😂😂😂😂
You do realize that I own 6 Toyota/Lexus models? And I've purchased at least 12 Toyota/Lexus' in the past 5 years. And I've worked for Toyota in the past, and I teach Toyota Production System at colleges and MBA classes. My entire channel has mostly positive Toyota reviews. However, in recent years, Toyota/Lexus models are trailing behind the competitors in many areas. You and viewers want my honest opinion I believe, so I tell the truth just like your name. When Toyota's are better, they are better. But when competitors make better cars, I won't make up a story - I will only tell the real story and my real opinion.
@@AutomotivePress very aware because I’ve been a subscriber of yours for a very long time. It just doesn’t make sense to me why that’s all you own when everything else you compare them to is superior overall.
@@thetruthspeaks8702 There is a difference when it comes to long term ownership. I don't think you actually watched the entire video, because I say very clearly that for long term ownership and reliability, choose the RAV4. For features and luxury experience, choose the Mitsubishi. I buy Toyota's because of loyalty and long term reliability, but it doesn't mean that I am convinced all Toyota's are always better. That is no longer true these days.
@@AutomotivePress Infact on other day I drove RAV4 gasoline 2022 XLE it sounded like a tracker engine when compared to Misubishi Outlander Gasoline 2022 so clam ofcourse power wise RAV4 may win here ... Agreed RAV4 got reliability of long term because of proven engine but mitsubishi too did there home work on engine department bindly cant hate because of Nissan's engine with Mitsubishi tuned CVT engine atleast in PHEV they haven't used nissan's engine instead there own 1 speed gasoline engine. Still ongoing chip shortage not sure by when a Toyota car a customer can get apart for used cars over MSRP prices.
I agree with David. As a long term owner of a Tundra Crewmax I love it. I wouldnt touch a new one. The bean counters are destroying what was great. It was with reluctance I left the brand. It's long storied reliability I fear is no more. They are changing and not for the better in my opinion.