I've got a 2023 PHEV, with just over 2000 km. I charge it every night. Including a weekend drive to Montreal (from Ottawa), where I didn't charge it, I'm at 3.7 l/100km
My 2023 Mitsubishi outlander shows an expected range of 54 miles at the start and when I start the vehicle within 1 or 2 miles of driving it drops to 43. I tried to pre condition the cabinet every morning but still this happens Am I doing anything wrong ? Is there anything I can do to improve this ?
@@santhuw2002 I've been told that the estimator takes a while to get more accurate, as it has to adjust to your driving style (including the temp you set your HVAC at, ambient temperature, etc)
I ordered one as well! I will be using EV mode primarily for my commute, and I can charge it at work for the drive home! Plus the fact you can actually go test drive one at a dealership is a huge win.
At 1:50 the text says it has a CVT. It DOES NOT have a CVT. It has a SINGLE SPEED transmission/gear connection between the petrol engine and the front axle. This gear only engages above a certain speed, which I think is about 70 km/hr, or thereabouts. It DOES NOT HAVE A CVT.
People keep freaking out about this but the Outlander PHEV lead engineer even calls it a CVT because it's doing the same thing as experienced from the drivers seat. It's not technically a CVT, but works to the same effect. Source: I had lunch with him twice.
I have decided to purchase this SUV as a result of your review. I live in the Prairies and my BMW i3 can't take my far enough as the battery range is cut in half during the winter months (like 8 months of the year).
Owner of a MY 2021 with 2.4l. engine and 13.kwh battery pack. I have never got 10l/100km or more. I usually stay around 6,8l/100km. A 300km trip mostly 80km/h roads, I even get around 5,2l/100km. If you drive 130-140km/h, then yes, you will not get back much from parallel hybrid mode. All energy from fuel goes into the engine to drive the car and minimum to recharge the battery. All abundance of energy can be stored by CHARGE and not let it out until driving at lower speed. I think in its way is brilliant.. Sure it's heavier and then need more fuel but it is quite efficient for its size anyhow.
Great review. It is just petty that Mitsubishi still has not explained SAVE mode during long journeys as the MPG will change significantly less when the battery is not drained on long trips.
@@markkennedy5335 No, I test drive both, the Outlander is leagues ahead in terms of feel, handling, comfort, ride, plushness, quietness, quality and it looks a lot better in my opinion plus the interior is so damn impressive, even my uncle who basically owns BMWs ever since said that it's one of the best in it's class.
@@markkennedy5335 A couple of other channels have speculated that a new re-designed RAV4 is on the horizon, possibly in 2024? For me, I am happy to see that there are now 2 other brands competing (or rumoured to compete) in the same space as the R4P - Mazda and Mitsubishi. Its only good news for PHEV enthusiasts. The backlog for a R4P, last checked in January 23 , is about 4 years according to several local Ottawa and area dealers.
Looking to buy one but worried about two things: 1.Some video said it may refuse to start at -20C 2. 10 to 11 l per 100 km on gas? The salesman said he gets 8 l per 100 km. Which is it? Thanks!
I have a 2018 outlander phev i was wondering if mitsubshi solved the problem plaguing those 2018 to 2022 models where the 12v battery dies in sub -20 weather requiring recharcharging the battery sometimes multiple times in the winter. Note mitsubshi denies there is an issue.
Excellent Video & explanation Justin. Considering living in Southern Ontario & relying both on PHEV & HEV modes, which one do you recommend to save more fuel & for long term usage - Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV or Kia Sportage PHEV ?
Useful video, thank you. I quite like the idea of owning one of these but the rather pointless 3rd row seats should be an option rather than a standard fitment. This would mean more load capacity and/or a bigger battery.
Great video! I just want to know how you got the 2 hours for full charge on Level 2 charging. The official time is 6.5 hours on 15 amps. Can the vehicle charge at a higher amperage rate?
Just going by the display on the screen. 6.5 hours seems too long for level two. Where were you reading that? I may have made a mistake although 2 to 3 hours to recharge a plug-in hybrid on level 2 is what I expect.
So, the official estimate is in fact 6.5h on Level 2. Could have swore it was much faster than that on my Level 2, but I didn't take note of the amperage settings. Will have to re-test this on a future drive and pay a little more attention. Can an owner chime in with any additional feedback? How long is a full charge on level 2 taking?
Thanks for the video.. Mine takes about 6 hours to fully charge. My 2023 Mitsubishi outlander shows an expected range of 54 miles at the start and when I start the vehicle within 1 or 2 miles of driving it drops to 43. I tried to pre condition the cabinet every morning but still this happens Am I doing anything wrong ? Is there anything I can do to improve this ?
Hi Justin, I live in Guelph Ontario, could it be available & advisable to purchase one of this via pre-owned route as the new one seems quite pricey for me at the moment and plus...can you tell if it's maintenance is affordable..? You just earned my sub.. Thanks for what you do..
Thank you! Doubt you'll find any pre owned in this generation, it just went on sale. Not likely to be any used ones out there yet... You could look at an earlier Outlander PHEV previous generation as a second hand alternative. If you're buying brand new little to no maintenance is needed for a very long time, the hybrid can extend the life of brake parts and oil changes too. Longer term maintenance cost maybe slightly higher but would imagine far less than what you're going to save on fuel (and gain on resale value vs a non hybrid). The resale value of non-hybrid vehicles will decline as gas prices remain unpredictable. Hope that helps!
Getting this GTP in the next few weeks. 10l/100km in hybrid mode sounds disappointing. Will be testing in the city (save mode) and on the HWY as well. Hope to get a better MPG in hybrid-only mode.
Can also confirm they are fitting of the price tag and I had no complaints. Normally I get some footage to show viewers but wasn't able to in this video.
It seems a lot of places get it wrong, but according to Mitsubishi's website, yes, its a 1 speed transaxle, many auto websites, say its CVT, but websites like edmunds, mototrend, and even mitsubishi's website say its a single speed auto, not a CVT. Exactly how it works, someone else can explain it further.
27c man that's warm id be dripping in sweat. That will def effect your fuel mileage figure as well. I've had a volt for 5 years functions the same way essentially as this vehicle. Put my order in for a outlander gt phev and super excited for it. Should be at the dealer in the next week or 2 .
I'm just disappointed with the miles of distance with the battery. It's almost like you drive 340 miles on gas then use the 40 miles on battery just to find a gas station. It almost defeats the purpose of having a phev. Also the fact the same engine size for all trims, a 2.5 liter where my 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander GT had a 3.0 and could mange a lot. Mitsubishi could have done better. If this battery could have went 100 miles then it would be worth buying
From the head engineer: leave it plugged into its charger if it's cold whenever possible! Other than that, I had no issues but it wasn't extremely cold during my week.
Anyone driving this at -25 -30c and having issues with it ? I know theyre is a lawsuit in canada and usa regarding car from preventing to start in too cold conditions
@@masouddehghan6962 the gas engine is basically a generator for the electric motors, so it is a unique hybrid system. Though I guess a regular gas engine making 300lb ft of torque would have worse mileage than this
I’m curious where did you find out that the lead designer states that leaving the car plugged in acts as a block heater even if it’s fully charged? According to my ChargeLab app , once my 2023 phev is fully charged it doesn’t draw any more power from my grizzle charger .
Had lunch with him twice during the launch event. He spoke through a translator. My understanding is that the battery will slowly charge and discharge to keep warm. Very slightly.
This is important because recently with past cold weather in Vancouver and Quebec, some people could not start the car even with full tank because they didn’t plug it at night. Thats the reason i am not sure to get one, even with a depleted battery the car should start, its a necessity, what happen if i go to work and can’t plug it for a reason, then after work ill be stuck with a brand new car that can’t start?
@@saiya25very true. I have the outlander phev for a year now and live in Montreal , I haven’t had any issues starting it yet. Mitsubishi just sent out a letter recommending to keep the car plugged in overnight when in extreme cold . They mention -30 for 10 hours . They also have a software update that can keep the car warmer while parked
What is Mitsubishi doing to fix the poor cold weather performance? I won’t buy this car if it completely dies in cold weather. Towing to a garage to warm up the car is a deal breaker!
looking to buy this car but had a couple of questions i can't find answers anywhere. The app that has the climate start, does it defrost the windshield also? from Montreal so I have a similar winter as Ottawa. I live in an apartment with no plug option but can plug it at work so if its not plugged will it have a problem in winter?
What if its -20 and you are running in ev and ran out of ev range and now the engine has to start. Will this hurt the engine since it has to run and pull the car while it’s extremely cold? Usually engines needs to warm up a bit before it is good to do some heavy duty. Would like to know about this if you can please let us know. Thanks
Good points-- if it's 20 below, you'll be running the gas engine (probably in generator mode) for heat, so the switch to hybrid operation when the EV range runs out won't involve firing up a cold engine. If it did somehow (say you turned the heat off), the engineers have numerous means of protecting modern engines from thermal shock as you mention. A gas engine, hybrid or not, has to start and run and work at 20 below. And while many drivers like you and I like to run our engines to warm them up a little on a cold morning before using them hard, you really don't need to. Protections are built in. I regularly cold start (30 below in some cases) test cars and drive them immediately, even applying full throttle acceleration within ~45 seconds of engine start. Vehicles have to be able to stand up to this, most respond by aggressively limiting throttle and shifting gears very slowly until fluids are warmed. Outlander would work in much the same way in that situation. But remember at 20 below, it's likely going to run in generator mode to help sustain the battery while generating cabin heat. In generator mode, if memory serves, the engine simply runs at one continuous RPM, regardless of throttle input. Hope that helps!
the way he said the name of the tires, i thought he was making fun of them - Kumho Wintercrap... good thing i googled to find out it's Wintercraft... otherwise, nice review, nice car.
Also, you can't just add the maximum power and torque figures from the two motors and the petrol engine together to get the peak power and torque figures for the entire vehicle. This is because the peaks occur at different speeds ( or rpm's ) for the motors and the petrol engine. Electric motors have peak torque, but zero power, at zero rpm. Whereas a petrol engine has zero power and torque at zero rpm, but maximum torque and power at somewhere around 4,000 to 6,000 rpm, and not necessarily at the same rpm. So, in order to determine the real maximum torque and power for the vehicle, you need to look at the torque and power CURVES for both of the motors AND the petrol engine, and add all three together - taking into account the gear ratio used in the single speed transmission on the front axle.
@Kevin Eng because I'm from NZ, we have different model names. Assuming you are referring to the heads up display, then I can confirm that the entry model does not have it and the middle and high spec does.
If only it would save money I'd get one. Except, it doesn't. Did the math (and not just wishful thinking for confirmation bias to support a shiny new toy), and it would take upwards to like 10 years to break even - and that's driving *ALL* in EV mode. Past the EV mode, once the gas motor kicks in, this car is absolutely ATROCIOUS on gas! Worst than ANY other similar sized gas SUV BY FAR. People have no idea. The *ONLY* people that "disagree" are the ones that want to feel good about the choice they made or want to make.
This model doesn't have a cvt only motors. Great suv, but the major issue is that it doesn't do good mileage for long drives on the highway. Rav4 is much superior for highway driving. Toyota's more efficient hybrid system. But I don't like the rav4 hybrid interior cabin, the engine noise is very annoying.
MotorTrend tested it, it sprinted to 60MPH in 6.5 seconds which is quicker than a Civic SI, on higher speeds it will slow down because the electric motors only has 1 gear, the gasoline engine also has a Single Speed Trans-Axle Transmission and not a CVT, and it has a speed limiter, and lastly 0-60MPH is more important than 0-180KPH.
@@keyner111 but I also found the video of 2021 Outlander Phev which is uses same system and even with less power it made 0-180 in 26 seconds. I think 48 seconds may be wrong, it is too long time
@@ironjohn36 I very like this vehicle and going to buy one and I understand it is made for gas saving, but 0-180 in 48 seconds, I just want to clarify it, I think it is the wrong test. For example, Toyota Venza Hybrid makes it in 24 seconds, and that car is also made for gas saving, too big differences in time.
I had an SEL, gave it back, the engine whine from the CVT is extremely annoying and makes the car sound old, high winds pitch this vehicle all over the place to where I find myself fighting with the steering wheel, interior leather unsticks in the center console, rain sensing sensors are not that great, not to mention hood fluttering issue…. Until all these issues is addressed then maybe I’ll get another
@@dorado0359 I’m gonna assume you struggle with comprehending what you read!? Had I know these issues before, (which would be impossible unless you owned and driven one to notice those issues) then I wouldn’t of purchased it …. You follow!? My 22 MDX Aspec Tech is way better than that…
The infotainement system is the weak point and for people like me which we are a lot infotainement is the first thing we look and is a break or do deal or make
Nice looking exterior and probably a reliable vehicle. Holy Moly that unimpressive interior would be a deal breaker for me. Mitsi interior designers need to sit in a Sportage, whoever signed off on that interior needs to be fired immediately. Nice review Justin as always.
I agree the Sportage interior is gorgeous but wont be for long with all the piano black it scratches up like crazy. Look at used ones inside online after they are 6 months old the interior plastics a mess.
Visiting the gas station three times a year with a plug-in hybrid OK come on bro at this point you’re flat out just lying no one on this earth visits the gas station only a few times a year I don’t care what kind of miles per gallon or what kind of technology a car is putting out
I have a Mitsubishi PHEV GT-P 2023. I bought it three months ago, and as per my 3 months ownership experience I can certainly tell you that If you fullly charge it overnight and drive 50 km a day, then you won't need to go to a gas station for the next three months.
I've got a 2023 PHEV, with just over 2000 km. I charge it every night. Including a weekend drive to Montreal (from Ottawa), where I didn't charge it, I'm at 3.7 l/100km
My 2023 Mitsubishi outlander shows an expected range of 54 miles at the start and when I start the vehicle within 1 or 2 miles of driving it drops to 43. I tried to pre condition the cabinet every morning but still this happens
Am I doing anything wrong ? Is there anything I can do to improve this ?
@@santhuw2002 I've been told that the estimator takes a while to get more accurate, as it has to adjust to your driving style (including the temp you set your HVAC at, ambient temperature, etc)
@@santhuw2002 are you driving uphill at that point?
@@Repparc1 no. My initial drive I have a lot of downhills
@@santhuw2002 mine is the opposite. It underestimates and usually delivers more.p
I ordered one as well! I will be using EV mode primarily for my commute, and I can charge it at work for the drive home! Plus the fact you can actually go test drive one at a dealership is a huge win.
As compared to what other vehicles
@@Demobot1rav4 specifically...
Rav4 is BTW much worse off-road if that is important. This Mitsu might be the most underrated SUV.
Rav 4 Prime@@Demobot1
I test drove a PHEV one only car that has impressed me by quiet a margin
I am so glad that I have ordered one of these!
At 1:50 the text says it has a CVT. It DOES NOT have a CVT. It has a SINGLE SPEED transmission/gear connection between the petrol engine and the front axle. This gear only engages above a certain speed, which I think is about 70 km/hr, or thereabouts. It DOES NOT HAVE A CVT.
People keep freaking out about this but the Outlander PHEV lead engineer even calls it a CVT because it's doing the same thing as experienced from the drivers seat. It's not technically a CVT, but works to the same effect.
Source: I had lunch with him twice.
@@JustinPritchard E-CVT
Seems like a legit source 😂@JustinPritchard
Glad that I will buy a fully loaded 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
how much they paying you guy? i see this comment posted nearly word for word on every video about this car.
@adamcoe I'm also curious. I think this is his salary to get a brand new one for free and he will be doing this for the next 5 years.
I have decided to purchase this SUV as a result of your review. I live in the Prairies and my BMW i3 can't take my far enough as the battery range is cut in half during the winter months (like 8 months of the year).
Very informative, non bias review ! Excellent looking and performing vehicle, as all of them, come with pros&cons!
Great review from a Canadian perspective
Very thorough review Justin! Well done son!👍🏼👍🏼
How does colder weather affect the battery range?
Owner of a MY 2021 with 2.4l. engine and 13.kwh battery pack. I have never got 10l/100km or more. I usually stay around 6,8l/100km. A 300km trip mostly 80km/h roads, I even get around 5,2l/100km. If you drive 130-140km/h, then yes, you will not get back much from parallel hybrid mode. All energy from fuel goes into the engine to drive the car and minimum to recharge the battery. All abundance of energy can be stored by CHARGE and not let it out until driving at lower speed. I think in its way is brilliant.. Sure it's heavier and then need more fuel but it is quite efficient for its size anyhow.
Excellent review!
All my tech questions were answered in this video!.
Thank you so much for this video. 😊
Traded my outback 2021 for outlander se awc tech package. And i ❤ it.
Interesting! Did you notice any big changes to ride comfort / ride quality after making the switch?
Great review. It is just petty that Mitsubishi still has not explained SAVE mode during long journeys as the MPG will change significantly less when the battery is not drained on long trips.
I'd take this over any RAV4 Prime all day everyday.
Is that because you can't get a RAV4 Prime?
@@markkennedy5335 No, I test drive both, the Outlander is leagues ahead in terms of feel, handling, comfort, ride, plushness, quietness, quality and it looks a lot better in my opinion plus the interior is so damn impressive, even my uncle who basically owns BMWs ever since said that it's one of the best in it's class.
@@markkennedy5335 that's also a valid problem, but this interior is a lot nicer than the rav4
@@rapide12345 The Rav is also in it's 5th year of this model.
@@markkennedy5335 A couple of other channels have speculated that a new re-designed RAV4 is on the horizon, possibly in 2024? For me, I am happy to see that there are now 2 other brands competing (or rumoured to compete) in the same space as the R4P - Mazda and Mitsubishi. Its only good news for PHEV enthusiasts. The backlog for a R4P, last checked in January 23 , is about 4 years according to several local Ottawa and area dealers.
I get nearly 100km ev range on my new 2023 model. But I'm in NZ and wondering if maybe mitsi give different battery capacity in different regions?
I've got the Exceed Tourer 2023 in Sydney, Australia last week. So far Ioving it.
I assume you have the PHEV version, or not?
Looking to buy one but worried about two things:
1.Some video said it may refuse to start at -20C
2. 10 to 11 l per 100 km on gas? The salesman said he gets 8 l per 100 km. Which is it?
Thanks!
I have a 2018 outlander phev i was wondering if mitsubshi solved the problem plaguing those 2018 to 2022 models where the 12v battery dies in sub -20 weather requiring recharcharging the battery sometimes multiple times in the winter. Note mitsubshi denies there is an issue.
Excellent Video & explanation Justin. Considering living in Southern Ontario & relying both on PHEV & HEV modes, which one do you recommend to save more fuel & for long term usage - Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV or Kia Sportage PHEV ?
great review, thanks!
Useful video, thank you. I quite like the idea of owning one of these but the rather pointless 3rd row seats should be an option rather than a standard fitment. This would mean more load capacity and/or a bigger battery.
Glad it was helpful!
what is the size of the winter tire used?
Great video! I just want to know how you got the 2 hours for full charge on Level 2 charging. The official time is 6.5 hours on 15 amps. Can the vehicle charge at a higher amperage rate?
Just going by the display on the screen. 6.5 hours seems too long for level two. Where were you reading that? I may have made a mistake although 2 to 3 hours to recharge a plug-in hybrid on level 2 is what I expect.
@@JustinPritchard I believe the on-board charger max draw is 3.7 kWh so 6.5h is the approx. duration for 20 kW.
So, the official estimate is in fact 6.5h on Level 2. Could have swore it was much faster than that on my Level 2, but I didn't take note of the amperage settings. Will have to re-test this on a future drive and pay a little more attention.
Can an owner chime in with any additional feedback? How long is a full charge on level 2 taking?
Thanks for the video..
Mine takes about 6 hours to fully charge.
My 2023 Mitsubishi outlander shows an expected range of 54 miles at the start and when I start the vehicle within 1 or 2 miles of driving it drops to 43. I tried to pre condition the cabinet every morning but still this happens
Am I doing anything wrong ? Is there anything I can do to improve this ?
@@JustinPritchard for me takes around 6 hr to charge with level 2. The car can only charge at 15 amp.
Hi Justin,
I live in Guelph Ontario, could it be available & advisable to purchase one of this via pre-owned route as the new one seems quite pricey for me at the moment and plus...can you tell if it's maintenance is affordable..?
You just earned my sub..
Thanks for what you do..
Thank you!
Doubt you'll find any pre owned in this generation, it just went on sale. Not likely to be any used ones out there yet... You could look at an earlier Outlander PHEV previous generation as a second hand alternative.
If you're buying brand new little to no maintenance is needed for a very long time, the hybrid can extend the life of brake parts and oil changes too.
Longer term maintenance cost maybe slightly higher but would imagine far less than what you're going to save on fuel (and gain on resale value vs a non hybrid).
The resale value of non-hybrid vehicles will decline as gas prices remain unpredictable. Hope that helps!
@@JustinPritchardUnderstandably, i appreciate you...cheers.
What's the fuel average for Outlander PHEV in real ?? Kindly answer please. Thank you
which mode did you used on snow driving speeding over 100kph.
Getting this GTP in the next few weeks. 10l/100km in hybrid mode sounds disappointing. Will be testing in the city (save mode) and on the HWY as well. Hope to get a better MPG in hybrid-only mode.
10L/100 was pure gas mode on the highest
How are the headlights and the beam pattern? Does it have a good range?
The headlights are rated good by IIHS.
@@keyner111 thnx.
Can also confirm they are fitting of the price tag and I had no complaints. Normally I get some footage to show viewers but wasn't able to in this video.
I can confirm that the headlights are brighter than most vehicles with this new design.
not a CVT, all-wheel drive and a single-speed transmission come standard on the PHEV, the gas Nissan engine is a CVT.
It seems a lot of places get it wrong, but according to Mitsubishi's website, yes, its a 1 speed transaxle,
many auto websites, say its CVT, but websites like edmunds, mototrend, and even mitsubishi's website say its a single speed auto, not a CVT.
Exactly how it works, someone else can explain it further.
Tech here of Mitsubishi. PHEV does not have CVT. Only the regular DG/Outlander uses CVT
Was that the cabin temperature set at 27 degrees? Why? Higher settings don't make hotter air from the heat pump.
It was set to 27°, I'm always cold.
OKAY, I understand. I appreciate the fact you're giving us winter in Canada testing, not California or somewhere warm and dry.
27c man that's warm id be dripping in sweat. That will def effect your fuel mileage figure as well. I've had a volt for 5 years functions the same way essentially as this vehicle. Put my order in for a outlander gt phev and super excited for it. Should be at the dealer in the next week or 2 .
order if cab heat could actually reach 27'C in -30'C as Heat Pumps only work down to say -18'C
is this the year that wont run in -20
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I'm just disappointed with the miles of distance with the battery. It's almost like you drive 340 miles on gas then use the 40 miles on battery just to find a gas station. It almost defeats the purpose of having a phev. Also the fact the same engine size for all trims, a 2.5 liter where my 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander GT had a 3.0 and could mange a lot. Mitsubishi could have done better. If this battery could have went 100 miles then it would be worth buying
I just got mine, any tips during winter, does it easily starts in outdoor cold during winters?
From the head engineer: leave it plugged into its charger if it's cold whenever possible!
Other than that, I had no issues but it wasn't extremely cold during my week.
Anyone driving this at -25 -30c and having issues with it ? I know theyre is a lawsuit in canada and usa regarding car from preventing to start in too cold conditions
If you don’t use the plugin , just regular gas hybrid, how much is the fuel consumption?
its rated around 26mpg. So ok for a big 3 row car. Though the main point is to use the plug in so you don't have to use gas for most commutes
@@ciello___8307 thanks I tested and unfortunately it is 11 L /100, basically the hybrid gas is useless
@@masouddehghan6962 the gas engine is basically a generator for the electric motors, so it is a unique hybrid system. Though I guess a regular gas engine making 300lb ft of torque would have worse mileage than this
@@ciello___8307 thanks for the information.
It is the wrong vehicle for you if don’t intend to plug-in to charge regularly
Does it have spare tire in Canada?
No it doesn't
I’m curious where did you find out that the lead designer states that leaving the car plugged in acts as a block heater even if it’s fully charged? According to my ChargeLab app , once my 2023 phev is fully charged it doesn’t draw any more power from my grizzle charger .
Had lunch with him twice during the launch event. He spoke through a translator. My understanding is that the battery will slowly charge and discharge to keep warm. Very slightly.
@@JustinPritchard great to know! Thank you! They should really make this information more widely available like in the manual or something.
This is important because recently with past cold weather in Vancouver and Quebec, some people could not start the car even with full tank because they didn’t plug it at night. Thats the reason i am not sure to get one, even with a depleted battery the car should start, its a necessity, what happen if i go to work and can’t plug it for a reason, then after work ill be stuck with a brand new car that can’t start?
@@saiya25very true. I have the outlander phev for a year now and live in Montreal , I haven’t had any issues starting it yet. Mitsubishi just sent out a letter recommending to keep the car plugged in overnight when in extreme cold . They mention -30 for 10 hours . They also have a software update that can keep the car warmer while parked
@@kevineng4372 oh great! Well i live in Montreal too, do you recommend the car? What is for you the best trim?
does the test used winter tires or a standard all season tires?
Winter dedicated tires, I dont test in the snow without them !
What is Mitsubishi doing to fix the poor cold weather performance? I won’t buy this car if it completely dies in cold weather. Towing to a garage to warm up the car is a deal breaker!
Smart man he watches the last of us lol great review
I never played the games and I wish there were more infected..but season 1 was a hell of a ride, ya know???
Do i need a block heater for Outlander PHEV 2023 ..?
Do not waste your money
looking to buy this car but had a couple of questions i can't find answers anywhere. The app that has the climate start, does it defrost the windshield also? from Montreal so I have a similar winter as Ottawa. I live in an apartment with no plug option but can plug it at work so if its not plugged will it have a problem in winter?
I would assume it would just run the gas engine like any other car.
What if its -20 and you are running in ev and ran out of ev range and now the engine has to start. Will this hurt the engine since it has to run and pull the car while it’s extremely cold? Usually engines needs to warm up a bit before it is good to do some heavy duty. Would like to know about this if you can please let us know. Thanks
Good points-- if it's 20 below, you'll be running the gas engine (probably in generator mode) for heat, so the switch to hybrid operation when the EV range runs out won't involve firing up a cold engine.
If it did somehow (say you turned the heat off), the engineers have numerous means of protecting modern engines from thermal shock as you mention. A gas engine, hybrid or not, has to start and run and work at 20 below. And while many drivers like you and I like to run our engines to warm them up a little on a cold morning before using them hard, you really don't need to. Protections are built in.
I regularly cold start (30 below in some cases) test cars and drive them immediately, even applying full throttle acceleration within ~45 seconds of engine start.
Vehicles have to be able to stand up to this, most respond by aggressively limiting throttle and shifting gears very slowly until fluids are warmed.
Outlander would work in much the same way in that situation. But remember at 20 below, it's likely going to run in generator mode to help sustain the battery while generating cabin heat. In generator mode, if memory serves, the engine simply runs at one continuous RPM, regardless of throttle input.
Hope that helps!
the way he said the name of the tires, i thought he was making fun of them - Kumho Wintercrap... good thing i googled to find out it's Wintercraft...
otherwise, nice review, nice car.
Also, you can't just add the maximum power and torque figures from the two motors and the petrol engine together to get the peak power and torque figures for the entire vehicle. This is because the peaks occur at different speeds ( or rpm's ) for the motors and the petrol engine. Electric motors have peak torque, but zero power, at zero rpm. Whereas a petrol engine has zero power and torque at zero rpm, but maximum torque and power at somewhere around 4,000 to 6,000 rpm, and not necessarily at the same rpm. So, in order to determine the real maximum torque and power for the vehicle, you need to look at the torque and power CURVES for both of the motors AND the petrol engine, and add all three together - taking into account the gear ratio used in the single speed transmission on the front axle.
How do you get the speed limit to display on the right of the screen ?
I believe that's automatic, provided the feature is installed -- I didn't have to activate that function, on my test drive it just did it by itself.
The dash settings are controlled from the steering wheel.
@@davidyang577 thanks , I know this but when I check my 2023 LE I don’t find that option. I’m assuming it must only be found in the higher trims ?
@Kevin Eng because I'm from NZ, we have different model names.
Assuming you are referring to the heads up display, then I can confirm that the entry model does not have it and the middle and high spec does.
@@davidyang577 thanks for the reply ! Not the heads up display , at 2:30 you can see the speed limit on the main display right above the speedometer
If only it would save money I'd get one. Except, it doesn't. Did the math (and not just wishful thinking for confirmation bias to support a shiny new toy), and it would take upwards to like 10 years to break even - and that's driving *ALL* in EV mode.
Past the EV mode, once the gas motor kicks in, this car is absolutely ATROCIOUS on gas! Worst than ANY other similar sized gas SUV BY FAR.
People have no idea.
The *ONLY* people that "disagree" are the ones that want to feel good about the choice they made or want to make.
Level 2 takes 6 hours. Where the hell did you get 2 hours from?
Apparently these cars brick themselves at -20c and colder. Makes it pretty useless in a lot of Canada.
Cruise Control should NEVER be used in snow, or rain, on wet, slick, or loose surfaces ever. Just a safety fyi.
This model doesn't have a cvt only motors.
Great suv, but the major issue is that it doesn't do good mileage for long drives on the highway. Rav4 is much superior for highway driving. Toyota's more efficient hybrid system. But I don't like the rav4 hybrid interior cabin, the engine noise is very annoying.
I saw the video where this vehicle spent 48 seconds making 0-180 km/h. I don't believe that was true. Can you check it?
MotorTrend tested it, it sprinted to 60MPH in 6.5 seconds which is quicker than a Civic SI, on higher speeds it will slow down because the electric motors only has 1 gear, the gasoline engine also has a Single Speed Trans-Axle Transmission and not a CVT, and it has a speed limiter, and lastly 0-60MPH is more important than 0-180KPH.
@@keyner111 but I also found the video of 2021 Outlander Phev which is uses same system and even with less power it made 0-180 in 26 seconds. I think 48 seconds may be wrong, it is too long time
@@keyner111 ruclips.net/video/O5o0EAujvdc/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/syRv4cgIJS8/видео.html
@@cooking_secrets what s the point of data to 180 for a vehicle that is made to save gas and drive electric? who drive those speeds???
@@ironjohn36 I very like this vehicle and going to buy one and I understand it is made for gas saving, but 0-180 in 48 seconds, I just want to clarify it, I think it is the wrong test. For example, Toyota Venza Hybrid makes it in 24 seconds, and that car is also made for gas saving, too big differences in time.
On board charger kw
Not GDI or D-4a so bad
CVT tranmisson ? You sure ?
@justinpritchard you should edit the CVT transmission in the stat box.
Technically not a CVT but a single speed reduction gearbox that operates the same way.
This car dont have CVT , it has 1 speed
minus 29 degrees dont start hmm
But you didn't answer the most important question.. in an open lot, with traction control disabled, will it rip evo like donuts? 😂
I had an SEL, gave it back, the engine whine from the CVT is extremely annoying and makes the car sound old, high winds pitch this vehicle all over the place to where I find myself fighting with the steering wheel, interior leather unsticks in the center console, rain sensing sensors are not that great, not to mention hood fluttering issue…. Until all these issues is addressed then maybe I’ll get another
2022 or 2023?
@@skymetallic 22
@@Mr_Ankle_Bracelet seems to be a lot of issues with the 22. First make of the new generation I guess
All those issues and you still bought the car! Sounds hard to believe.
@@dorado0359 I’m gonna assume you struggle with comprehending what you read!? Had I know these issues before, (which would be impossible unless you owned and driven one to notice those issues) then I wouldn’t of purchased it …. You follow!? My 22 MDX Aspec Tech is way better than that…
The infotainement system is the weak point and for people like me which we are a lot infotainement is the first thing we look and is a break or do deal or make
Nice looking exterior and probably a reliable vehicle. Holy Moly that unimpressive interior would be a deal breaker for me. Mitsi interior designers need to sit in a Sportage, whoever signed off on that interior needs to be fired immediately. Nice review Justin as always.
It won top 10 interiors of 2021.
I absolutely love the interior.
I agree the Sportage interior is gorgeous but wont be for long with all the piano black it scratches up like crazy. Look at used ones inside online after they are 6 months old the interior plastics a mess.
To each their own, just because you don't like the interior it means nothing to the other thousands who loves it!
@@gusmorfin5257 Knock yourself out Gus . Just not for me.
Задняя часть Митсубиси скопирована с Тойоты Сиквоя ! 😁😁😁
Visiting the gas station three times a year with a plug-in hybrid OK come on bro at this point you’re flat out just lying no one on this earth visits the gas station only a few times a year I don’t care what kind of miles per gallon or what kind of technology a car is putting out
I literally have friends and family who drive these and go to the gas station a few times a year tho.
You're in denial. Stop making assumptions about shit you don't know and do research lmfao
It's a hybrid
I have a Mitsubishi PHEV GT-P 2023. I bought it three months ago, and as per my 3 months ownership experience I can certainly tell you that If you fullly charge it overnight and drive 50 km a day, then you won't need to go to a gas station for the next three months.
@@dweeppatel1344 well I drive for Uber soooooo yea that wouldn’t work for me