Are Owner Assisted Annual Inspections Worth It? | Benefits & Insights
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Are owner-assisted annual inspections worth it? In this insightful video, we delve into the benefits of owner-assisted annual inspections on aircraft. Despite some FBOs declining to offer them due to insurance and liability concerns, these inspections provide significant advantages for both pilots and mechanics.
Discover how owner-assisted inspections keep everyone honest, fostering transparency and trust between the mechanic and the pilot. Learn how these hands-on inspections help you get to know your aircraft inside and out, enhancing your understanding and confidence. Additionally, we discuss the opportunity to practice emergency gear extensions in the safety of the hangar, a critical skill for any pilot.
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I’ve assisted with annuals on my airplane. This mostly involved removing inspection panels, fairings, seats, floor panels, cowlings, while the A&P used that time to review the logs and ADs. Then, when completed, reinstalled all the same while the A&P used the time to update and complete the logbook entries. I also completed all the owner allowed PM, such as oil change, repacking wheel bearings, greasing zerks etc. if you have a good working relationship with your A&P, divide and conquer is the way to go.
It also helps that due to the manufacturer of my airplane no longer existing, and doing a complete rebuild, I’ve had to resort to some owner built parts, and know exactly what is in the plane.
Spot on! I can attest of the four reasons in favour of a owner-assisted annual 100%.
The best thing anyone can do is get experience working the airplane your flying it gives you better awareness for safety
25 years of GA inspection and the lot, you are spot on sir. Only issue I run into is operators /owners who figure it will be cheaper. Nope, teaching takes time. (dependent on detail and previous exp) It is a joy to have an interested and involved partner in an inspection, and makes sense after 2-3 Annuals. Depending on the individual and skills it can work from the get-go. Great work on the videos, doing is from the teacher in you and not for the views. GOOD ON YOU.
Sucks if you can't participate , it 100% positive to know as much about your plane as possible, and getting into it with a professional would be an amazing way to gain more knowledge that can't be had without hands on time. I used to be a auto mechanic and hopefully will own my own piston single one day and would absolutely love to have time with during the annual.
Been an airplane owner for many years, like 35. I've been lucky to be able to assist in most of my MX. The working relationship between the IA and owner needs to be very well maintained too. Think "first date" manners every day. lol. If the shop charges a 10% reverse discount, that keeps the owner honest!
Hey, I'm currently taking a aviation maintenance technician course that will take 2 years to get my associates degree. But the thing is I don't know anything about aviation or anything in the mechanical field. Is there anything I could take to prepare me for the class? I've been warned it's difficult, and the class itself is 8 AM - 2PM Monday through Fridays. Should I take anything for preparation for the class or just go head first?
The classes aren't difficult. They're just very informative and as long as you listen to your instructor and take notes you'll be alright.
I disagree. Having the owner there only slows down the mechanic. The insurance issue is 100 true and not just for "insurance" but liability if/when that owner gets hurt while using shop equipment "working" in the business. Imagine going behind the McDonalds counter and frying up your own fries, then scalding yourself with the oil? You think McD's is gonna allow that? Why should the shop?
My last time allowing an owner to assist, the owner insisted on many unnecessary things, one of which was adjusting a perfectly fine A36 gear motor stop. He decided to tinker with it himself without me, or telling me, then when the gear swung, it snapped the gear motor. That cost the shop $3500 in a gear motor.
I am not saying that it is always a good idea, just that there is some benefit for an owner to be there. I am going to make another video of why a lot of guys won't do owner assisted.
Believe me, I have several horror stories from my days at the FBO. I only let certain clients work with me on their annual, and typically, I give them tasks like cleaning the aircraft or pulling the interior, and I tell them extra work means extra money.
I could go on for days with stunts owners pulled at said FBO but I'll save it for that video.
I’m interested in aviation and wanna go to school for it , I’m just discouraged because I have a dismissed misdemeanor will that stop a college from excepting me ?
Nah, man, I've had whole felons in my class. And I do mean violent offenders. Especially if it's Ben dismissed employerrs won't care to much. You won't be able to get a secret clearance but you only need that for certain jobs
Stupid insurance requirements. Just get a waiver from the client and you are legally good.
A waiver might be useless in the law of your state. In addition, the insurer gets to decide what conditions it wants to insure in. If the shop negates that condition by getting a waiver, the shop is eliminating its own insurance protection.
@@neilsingh5311 How is this legal? Are there no customer protection laws on federal level in place?
All your reasons make sense. Maybe have an owner wear a helmet during a compression test?
Lol I might start wearing a helmet myself.
Insurance is the biggest scam 🤬
It feels that way a lot of the time, you'll pay them over 100k in a lifetime, and they'll turn around and try to deny a 5k dollar claim on some b.s. reasons.
You need to read the FARs. When performing an annual per 65.95 ONLY the IA can do ANY work as part of the inspection. "Perform an annual," never allows for the supervision of others. Second, during an annual, there should not be any maintenance or training involved. The IAs sole responsibility is to verify the airworthiness of the aircraft, not hold class or tutorials. You need to refresh yourself and read the Dec 8 2010 Terry Sweet legal interpretation that basically smacks you down w/r/t any assisted annual inspections. Lastly, no good MX is gonna want to trust work of a random jabrony. Your airworthiness determination confers a ton of responsibility and letting a third party possibnly interfere or cover up an issue is a liability you need to avoid. Telling the FAA 'the owner did that part' is not going to end well for you. Lastly, you are not a certificated flight instructor so giving lessons on airplane operations is well out of your pervue as MX. If the owner wheels up his plane because you gave bad instructions is a good reason how? You must love to give away insurance payouts.
Thank you for your input. At no point did I say that I would delegate any part of the inspection, nor did I say specifically what I would have an owner assist with. But your right man God forbid the owner be involved in the maintenance of their aircraft in any way. We want them as ignorant as possible.
Holy crap! I like Bryce's reply to you. An inspection is just that, an inspection. MX subsequent to that must be inspected by an IA. Any IA worth their salt won't sign off on an MX item performed not to standards. No owner can say they inspected this or that and have an IA sign off. There is nothing wrong with the owner opening up the airplane, doing the grunt work, finding possible discrepancies, and reporting them to the IA. FWIW, I've never saved any money doing an owner assist anything. Always cost me more due to the "might as well while we're in here" factor.