@@AntitheistHuman him calling Israel an occupier when the fact is that Palestinians are a concept by the arabs to not allow Jews find a secure place to call home. He also said Israel was carrying out a genocide against Palestine when in fact, Israel has done more in terms of welfare for Palestinians than PLO, hamas or any other terrorist group has ever done. Israel is in no way perfect and I definitely put a lot of blame on Israel but the host made it seem like its Israel who's just looking to wipe out Palestinians when it's Palestinians looking to do that to Israelis.
Biden's personally against Abortion, he believes it's immoral. He also believes it's not up to him or the government to make that choice for another person.
Biden is also a psychotic drug warrior, very much complicit in keeping innocent users in prison over minute quantities of weed. You'll notice he, like every president since Nixon, has not removed marijuana from the schedule one list, yes? Just a small example of why he, like every single modern politician, is a tool that cares for nothing but money and power.
Whatever your stand on abortion, you can't deny the rights of half the worlds human populations rights to self determination and sexual and reproductive rights.
They need to be careful what they wish for. None of these people realize abortion could be an issue for a loved one or friend through no fault of their own.
Yes, chosen by God to ensure that Roe vs. Wade was overturned. Right wing Christians don't care who he cheated on or what abortions he paid for in the past.
Andrew acknowledges that Trump has had a horrible past, refuses to see that Trump has a horrible present, and wants to enable Trump's horrible future for America.
Sad day for Andrew. "He talked about christians being a persecuted minority"... WTF, in what world are they persecuted in this country?... allowing others to be treated equal is not persecution.
@@ottonormalverbrauch3794all fruit is welcome low and hight.. and it’s the fruit willing falling into the basket.. it’s not being picked .. just the basket is ready to catch all that want to fall in it.. aka YOLO.. fall into the basket at ur own risk… aka FAIR GAME.. that’s how I see it.. I view the callers as ppl who KNOWINGLY throw a punch at a person larger or smaller then them aka some callers throw punches at higher weight classes aka swerve into faster lanes then get dusted/run over by faster/larger vehicals.. that a fair analogy? I think so .. I’d never throw my weight out of my league aka push my opinion on a topic I’m not educated enough to give one worth hearing.. aka I’m the low hanging fruit throwing myself into the basket not being picked .. I’m being picked out the basket to see if I’m good fruit or TRASH FRUT(sims reference) 😂💀
The fact that Andrew hung up goes to what I've been saying about Trump 'loving the poorly educated' only insofar as he can get their vote. However, on the off chance he wins next year, if he implements "Project 2025", under the terms of which he would become dictator, he cut bait with 'the poorly educated' because voting would be eliminated. In that event, he could treat them the way he actually wants with impunity with regard to their personal opinion of him. Then, what will happen to Andrew?
I’m so grateful for trump. If it were for his evengelical support, I might not have started questioning Christianity that eventually led to me realizing I was an atheist.
but at the same time it took events that put the world on fire for you to wake up. Was the logical standpoint of atheism so hard to grasp before Trumps brutal rethoric directly impacted you?
I'm a former Christian who saw the light and left that ridiculous cult as well. It's been 18 years now, since I realized it was all bullshit. Trump didn't lead me to the truth, but I get how that may have happened for a lot of people. In my case, my church elders got tired of not having good answers for the questions I kept raising and eventually they just told me to read my Bible and ask God to guide me to the answers. So I did. I actually read the Bible. Not just the highlights that get cycled through again and again. I read the whole thing. And by the time I was about 30% into it, I was an Atheist.
I want to hear this story so bad!!!! Was it the election? Was it during the presidency? Was it a little after? Of course you an ignore me if you dont want to talk about it, just super curious. 👍🏽
@@modernenglishman7802 I’m 72 and started voting at 21. The only President I’ve ever chosen to vote for has been Obama, twice. Every other vote is for the lesser evils. It’s a sad world, get used to it.
I have worked in the church (Swedish) for over 20 years. I was an atheist when I started, I'm even more of an atheist now. I sit and listen to the Sunday sermon and am amazed, these are grown people, and they believe this???
Fun fact the caller ignores: you can both support Israel's right to exist and defend itself and at the same time oppose it's violence and mistreatment of Palestinians.
They like Trump because he is the physical manifestation of the very god they worship. He's cruel, indifferent, petty and he demands worship without question. As to the Israel / Palestine question, if this does not illustrate why we need to give up all religions then I don't what will.
@@puckerings Why can't the magaots see he hates and loathes them most of all? When I see clips of the rallies, it almost seems like Trump is tired of the charade of the fake facade, despite his narcissistic love of blind praise.
Yes the only thing that makes sense is that they agree with his hateful, narrow, bigoted views. They know he's a groping-of-women business-criminal and dismiss it. It's no accident Trump targeted them as a reliable voter-base.
Is this The dumbest statement you ever heard coming out of a mega church preachers mouth? We have a AA mega church preacher in my local area who lives in a 4 million house in a gated community most of his congregation are middle to low income. He drove from the north side of town down to south side to talk that bs every Sunday. He preached a sermon that he is being persecuted because the IRS is after his him. He is a clown and his sheep believes him. He did that same crap Noel Olsteen did. We had an ice storm people power was out for days. His officers ask if could open the church for members and he said NO. Yet came back Sunday and preached how good god is because he and his family were good they dod not miss a beat when their 4, not 1. 2 or 3 but 4 Generac generators kicked in. What a piece of you know what
@@sirgreedy88generally when people talk about persecution it's on a larger scale where its actually significant. Christians are the majority, their persecution, the tiny amount that's there, is not that significant. The amount of "persecution" that the Christian majority and "every group" faces, is just people being assholes. You can find one of those with hate towards every group like you said, but it's hardly persecution as we would think of it.
I watched people who were friends for years call each other ugly things on social media while arguing about Trump. He is easily the most divisive person I have ever seen in my life. People either love him or hate him. I think he is a reality TV star. As phoney as they come. Liar liar pants on fire.
I have lost a few friends on Face Book because of my stance and comments on Trump. It's interesting that most of the friends that have blocked me are people from my elementary and high school days. I graduated HS in 1976, so most of those folks are in their 60s. Only one person from my college days did that. I attended a small, liberal arts college, from which I earned my Bachelor's degree in 1993. Most of my college friends are in their late thirties and early forties, and are much more progressive than my childhood friends.
I thought he was a swindler before he even got into office. I remember reading about Seven Springs and his casino failures long before he ever got elected.
The problem with the trump cultist, is they claim that he regrets what he did and has changed. When in reality, his narcissistic ass has never regretted anything he has ever done, because that would be a wound to his great ego. That’s why he said he loves the uneducated, because the uneducated are primarily the ones susceptible to believing such ignorant rhetoric.
@@dbonk6264 and good for her . I have had an iffy relationship with my father for most of my life and we’re so much better now but I would take my iffy relationship with my father over having Trump as a father 💀
“Don’t the Palestinians use children as human shields or something???” Broooo I can’t with these intellectually superior arguments, how am I supposed to argue against the impenetrable might of an “or something?”
The false prophets and false teacher's are driving Christians to worship and expect the Antichrist to save them. As a Christian it has honestly been traumatizing to see so many defend a man of sin, loves himself, hates women, lover of money and the king of lies...what a savior 😢
It should be a lesson to all that when you have a state backed religion, any criticism of the state is treated as criticism of the religion and by extension that religion's adherents. This is just one of many reasons why religion and politics should always be separate.
If he said and did everything the same but merely put a D next to his name instead of an R the exact same people acting like he is the second coming would be calling him the antichrist.
@@ParanormalEncyclopediaI dunno, stupid people *are* easy to manipulate. Seriously, am I the only one who remembered Trump campaigning on pulling US troops and support from Japan? Because I remember the first foreign leader to visit him was the Prime Minister of Japan, who gifted him a gold-plated golf club, and then suddenly Trump says Japan is our greatest ally and deserving of our unwavering support. Stupid, greedy, and easy to manipulate.
@@kevinfrench9753 Dude ordered drone strikes just like any president (well, dumber ones than other presidents), but people still died by his order. Plus, there were casualties at the border concentration camps IIRC, which you can trace to his orders. Plus, there are the dead officers and insurrectionist from Jan 6, which are his fault too... The man may not have shot anyone on 5th Avenue, but I think that's more out of sheer cowardice than anything else. He has no problem with other people dying by his orders.
I feel the need to point out, since Forrest and Jimmy didn’t, that the attack the caller was referring to @15:22 happened on Easter 2019 during an Easter service, hence the term “Easter worshippers.” It wasn’t a fear of or aversion to the term “Christian.” This took two seconds to find out.
Trump tells it like it is unless he's lying or fooling himself (and me), but if you point that out, I'll just fall back on my trusty friend whataboutism and firmly bury my head back in the sand.
The reference to "Easter worshippers" was because it happened during Easter Mass. Easter, besides Christian, means a time of peace and reflection. They highlighted that these Christians were killed while practicing their faith, not merely as they went about their daily lives. For example, the Trump ordered attack on Christians in a Church, who were not actively worshiping.
Yeah its like if a group of Christmas carolers were gunned down and some said they were a group of "christmas carolers" instead of saying they were Christians. Oh no, how dare they!
How odd, I was a Christian for 60 years and never thought of Easter as a time of peace. I know it was supposed to be reconciliation with God but, the human sacrifice overrode that in my brain. It was always a problem for me, how I stuck with it so long is what puzzles me.
@@26beegee In my Catholic apologist youth, my perspective was that peace requires both sides to realize that the sacrifice was too great to continue. Human lives are sacrificed every day to uphold specific ideas or principles. I had a difficult childhood, so my perspective was that crucification was a token amount of suffering; mundane death as an escape from the limitations of time and space. Death and peace are deeply linked from my trauma. I’m glad you found another path.
The one thing I wished they asked Andrew is “Is there anything you could learn about Trump that would make you not want to vote for him?” Because I’m genuinely curious about whether he would even be able to answer that.
I gotta hand it to Andrew for sticking through this call. He’s a numbskull who’s not gonna change his mind even though he’s getting BURIED, but at least he’s being honest when confronted with the actual facts Forrest and Jimmy are presenting.
@Studio732JRL Yep. In my mind, I imagine this guy waking up the next day and being like "holy shit, they're right!". But in reality, you're right... they don't do that. They just go on with their lives, happy to exist in their elementary school level social circles, hating vast swaths of the human population, and loving a character that supposedly died a couple millennia ago.
I recently heard a good one in the same type of comment. We were discussing politics with a guy similar to Andrew. Finally the guy with a polysci degree stands up and just goes off on a 10 min rant debunking every comment. Then he sits down and goes quiet. Someone else said. HEY MAN!!! IF YOU LEAD THE HORSE TO WATER AND HE DOESNT DRINK. ITS BECAUSE HES DEAD....GET OFF!!! 🤣
@@dj_menyo839 Not sure who said it first, but there's a fun variant; you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink....SO YOU SMACK THE HORSE TILL IT DOES!
At least Andrew will have the conversation. Every Republican I've tried to have that conversation with goes to "fake news" or gets angry (likely both).
I don't know how the word "polite" could possibly be stretched to include Jimmy's behaviors in this video. Jimmy was contemptuous and rude. An incredibly disappointing display for someone who values high-quality discourse.
People like Andrew depress me. He just like picks stuff to believe. No investigation, not thought, just Oh that guy said a thing that sounds good. Well that must be tru! But it's even worse. He's SO sure that even when confronted with blunt obvious evidence of the contrary his whole argument boils down to "well that's not what I believe so that's not tru!" Find your way out man. Those of us on the outside got here by investigating what we DIDN"T believe and find out it was tru. I was raised Christian in a very conservative area. After the first election I voted in I realized I hadn't really looked to hard into politics. When I did I snapped left real fast. Cuz the GOP are just liars. they just are. They make shit up and lie cuz their actual policies are unpopular and don't work.
I got lucky my brother was hardlined democratic socialist (menshevik) when i met bernie back in 2015 in minnesota I knew these were the policies we needed i was 14 im now 22 and im even further left than my brother im trans they recently came out as queer and we both are the farthest left in both our family and extended trumps fuck up from 2016-2020 made my dad wake the fuck up and he voted biden in 2020 meanwhile im the anarcho-syndicalist
My family are republicans who raised me to think that left-wingers are irresponsible idiots with insane policies that would ruin the country. As a kid I thought I was also a Republican until I discovered which side stands for which values. Turns out I was on the left the whole time. Even took a “which political party do you belong to” test at 13 and thought it was wrong because the results said I was a democrat 😂
It amazes me that every Trump supporter gets dressed down like this in just about every interview by independent media, yet he still enjoys so much support. It shows MAGA is a cult.
The next time the discussion around "should the woman be punished" comes up, I'd like you all to ask if whether it would be fair if the sperm donor should also be punished since they're involved in this too.
Don't forget about what DJT said when he found out that there were some Black people in his accounting department for his casino (Taj Mahal). "l don't want Black folks counting my money - I want people with Yarmikas" (Jews)
If anyone is still confused whether to vote Conservative or Liberal: just compare "the most conservative countries" to "the most liberal countries" and check which countries on those lists enjoy the most "Happiness." It's Interesting those SAME "Happiest" countries are also rated with the MOST "Personal Freedom" and are "Safest" of all countries. The other list is rated LEAST on those qualities of any other country. The 5 Most Conservative Countries: Yemen Mali Iran Pakistan Chad The 5 Most Liberal Countries: Norway Sweden Denmark Finland Iceland No spoilers, but do we even have to look up which country's people are "Happiest", have the most "Personal Freedom", and are "Safest" of all, and which are least of all? (It's an easy lookup, if necessary). After looking at the obvious reality for yourself, why would any sane person risk a vote to move our country towards more 'conservative'? Is their precious "Hate" worth sacrificing more happiness, personal freedoms, and safely?
Trump changed his mind of his own volition exactly when he announced he was running for president and it benefited him politically to do so. Biden was playing to the crowd when he supported gay marriage years before his own political party and well before being gay was widely accepted in the US. These two thoughts coexist in his brain. He can actually hold two contradictory thoughts to be true simultaneously and thats actually kinda fascinating.
I don’t know if the hosts chose to ignore that detail in favor of another approach or line of conversation, but I would’ve personally held his feet to the fire on this transgression until he either admitted he is a dishonest hypocrite or changes his views (at least states on air that he does). I’m not as easily irritated and crass as Matt and Jimmy (which I don’t necessarily think is always a bad thing, by the way), but in this case I would curse and mock to my heart’s content until Andrew faced his own hypocrisy. My civility has a very low limit when it comes to intellectual dishonesty.
Andrew, how about Trump praising Hezbola, and Humis (AKA: Hamas) as wise and led by smart people? Hey, how about when interviewers asked him about the Bible being his favorite book if he could share his favorite Bible verse? Nothing! That guy has NEVER read the Bible.
He's never read any book. He has what is known as Developmental Dyslexia which is a form of dyslexia which allows the sufferer to actually read out loud, like off a teleprompter, but without understanding the words. It's like reading a foreign language. Imagine how good someone would be in school if they couldn't read a text book, couldn't read an exam paper. Trump would have been the worst student in every class he ever took. Any fake qualifications he might have been given were bought and paid for by daddy. That's why he's fought so hard to keep his grades a secret. Back in his day developmental dyslexia would not have been known about so his teachers would just have thought he's retarded.
Convinced any committed republican voters at this point have abandoned the reasoning skills altogether that would allow them to make a rational decision regarding any constructive values.
@@phi4721No, because they are clearly demonstrating by their adherence to movement that not only fails to promote a reasonable ideology but is also problematic for their wellbeing. This very well illustrates a position that is reached due to the abandonment of reason.
No one can convince me that Jimmy doesn't practice his Trump impersonation for an hour every evening. The voice and the gestures are just too damn good. Never change Jimmy, never change
To be fair to Trump, it's not that he doesn't know how to hold a bible. It's that he doesn't know how to hold a book.
It's those small hands he has. 😂
@@WhizzRichardThompson also hard to read anything after staring into a solar eclipse
@@iamnotgroot3693😵
I think he's illiterate.
😂😂😂
Caller just proves how easy it is to fool devoutly religious people.
Which is why Trump shrewdly targeted them as a reliable voter-base
And it's worse than that
True but unfortunately the hosts really proved they too can be manipulated by mainstream media
@@clarkporter1340 mind to explain?
Because I don't believe it, plus I think you are wrong.
@@AntitheistHuman him calling Israel an occupier when the fact is that Palestinians are a concept by the arabs to not allow Jews find a secure place to call home.
He also said Israel was carrying out a genocide against Palestine when in fact, Israel has done more in terms of welfare for Palestinians than PLO, hamas or any other terrorist group has ever done.
Israel is in no way perfect and I definitely put a lot of blame on Israel but the host made it seem like its Israel who's just looking to wipe out Palestinians when it's Palestinians looking to do that to Israelis.
Biden's personally against Abortion, he believes it's immoral.
He also believes it's not up to him or the government to make that choice for another person.
This is not that uncommon in politicians. When Guterres- now in the UN- was the prime minister of Portugal, this was his take on abortion as well.
Biden is also a psychotic drug warrior, very much complicit in keeping innocent users in prison over minute quantities of weed. You'll notice he, like every president since Nixon, has not removed marijuana from the schedule one list, yes? Just a small example of why he, like every single modern politician, is a tool that cares for nothing but money and power.
and he is absolutely Right..
Whatever your stand on abortion, you can't deny the rights of half the worlds human populations rights to self determination and sexual and reproductive rights.
But Republicans want “big government” to make decisions of its female citizens.
I almost threw up when caller said how great it was Dump flooded the supreme court with religious zealots.
They need to be careful what they wish for. None of these people realize abortion could be an issue for a loved one or friend through no fault of their own.
@@gabehayes1833 They don’t care, and won’t care, until and maybe not even then, the consequences hit them
@@gabehayes1833
Rich people get D&C’s.
There are always different rules for rich people.
@gabehayes1833 I doubt they'd care even then. Zealotry creates the mindset that thinks 'women ask for it' by what they wear.
Theocracy or Democracy.
That's the choice.
I'm voting for democracy
Autocracy or democracy.
I will not submit to theocracy's. That means war. I rather die then live in a third world exploited right wing conservative shithole !
@@abc456f Anocracy.
Thank you for voting!
I'm an atheist and I know far more about Christianity than Trump ever will.
Me too
You just need to know how to hold a bible the right way up and quote Samuel L Jackson in pulp fiction and you are ahead on trump in knowing the bible.
Same goes for me, Tony.
Trump's also an atheist.
Knowing isnt the argument though
A guy who cheated on his 3rd wife while she was pregnant was "CHOSEN BY GOD"
Yes, chosen by God to ensure that Roe vs. Wade was overturned. Right wing Christians don't care who he cheated on or what abortions he paid for in the past.
That’s ok in some parts of the bible what a screwed up book
Mysterious ways
Let's not forget stealing from a Vetarans cancer charity. He actually is banned from operating a charity in the state of New York.
Sin of lust much?
Can we a acknowledge that Jimmy has a really good Trump impression.
Yes. I just wanted to say that, it's hilarious.
and Andrew is a really good cult member
its tremendous, frankly.
Jimmy nails both trump and Stewie, although I think his trump is better than his Stewie
I think all his impersonations sound the same. Are they supposed to be actually good…?
Man someone needs to call Wheaties IMMEDIATELY!! Andrew is a gold medalist in mental gymnastics.
"Religion poisons everything" - Hitchens
....truer words were never spoken.
I disagree with Hitchens because he left no room for nuance. Also, religious people exist outside of the west...
I really miss that guy.
Andrew acknowledges that Trump has had a horrible past, refuses to see that Trump has a horrible present, and wants to enable Trump's horrible future for America.
That's blind faith for ya. Never leads anywhere good.
Andy has zero capacity for critical thought.
Intellectual subjugation to figments of imagination.
Yeah, I wished one of them would have asked him when exactly did Trump change from his horrible past and how did he recognize the change.
@@invisimous6728 homestuck fan detected
If Trump embodies christian values, all I can say is « thank god I am an atheist ».
You're funny 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
An atheist was racist to me, Thank God, I'm not an atheist.
"Ain't no hate like Christian love"
@@UnashamedCaliforniagirl
He is actually right !
Sad day for Andrew. "He talked about christians being a persecuted minority"... WTF, in what world are they persecuted in this country?... allowing others to be treated equal is not persecution.
And in what universe are they a minority? Because I'd like to go there.
@@Krikenemp18 Pretty much any Eastern or Middle Eastern country
They view the reduction of privilege as persecution. It is a form of social narcissism.
@@baseupp12read their comment again. They said "in this country"
@@claudiasolomon1123 ooh that's my bad
Remind me never to argue with these guys.
They mopped the floor with their caller.
You guys are awesome! Thank you for challenging the purposely ignorant Trump supporter!
How embarrassing for Andrew! The hosts kinda mopped the floor with him. Brutal 😂
That's a pretty low bar with a Trump supporter.
Yeah, Andrew was basically fruit hanging at the height of strawberries.
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@@ottonormalverbrauch3794 The important difference is that they didn't go after low-hanging fruit. He called them to present his case.
@@ottonormalverbrauch3794all fruit is welcome low and hight.. and it’s the fruit willing falling into the basket.. it’s not being picked .. just the basket is ready to catch all that want to fall in it.. aka YOLO.. fall into the basket at ur own risk… aka FAIR GAME.. that’s how I see it.. I view the callers as ppl who KNOWINGLY throw a punch at a person larger or smaller then them aka some callers throw punches at higher weight classes aka swerve into faster lanes then get dusted/run over by faster/larger vehicals.. that a fair analogy? I think so .. I’d never throw my weight out of my league aka push my opinion on a topic I’m not educated enough to give one worth hearing.. aka I’m the low hanging fruit throwing myself into the basket not being picked .. I’m being picked out the basket to see if I’m good fruit or TRASH FRUT(sims reference) 😂💀
Andrew HAD to hang-up, Forrest obliquely asked him if he thinks Trump gives a shit about him, and he, at some level, knew the answer was "no".
Yup 🎯
The fact that Andrew hung up goes to what I've been saying about Trump 'loving the poorly educated' only insofar as he can get their vote. However, on the off chance he wins next year, if he implements "Project 2025", under the terms of which he would become dictator, he cut bait with 'the poorly educated' because voting would be eliminated. In that event, he could treat them the way he actually wants with impunity with regard to their personal opinion of him. Then, what will happen to Andrew?
@@thomash.schwed3662 he gets sent to the mines
I’m so grateful for trump.
If it were for his evengelical support, I might not have started questioning Christianity that eventually led to me realizing I was an atheist.
but at the same time it took events that put the world on fire for you to wake up. Was the logical standpoint of atheism so hard to grasp before Trumps brutal rethoric directly impacted you?
I'm a former Christian who saw the light and left that ridiculous cult as well. It's been 18 years now, since I realized it was all bullshit. Trump didn't lead me to the truth, but I get how that may have happened for a lot of people. In my case, my church elders got tired of not having good answers for the questions I kept raising and eventually they just told me to read my Bible and ask God to guide me to the answers. So I did. I actually read the Bible. Not just the highlights that get cycled through again and again. I read the whole thing. And by the time I was about 30% into it, I was an Atheist.
I want to hear this story so bad!!!! Was it the election? Was it during the presidency? Was it a little after? Of course you an ignore me if you dont want to talk about it, just super curious. 👍🏽
At what cost, though? I would rather you be a Christian than have Trump exist.
Eyyyyy!!!! 🎉this is a great viewpoint I hadn't considered that applies to my situation too. Cheers to waking up! 🥂 😊
This year, Vote! When we stand together we always win. Stand and be counted.
Love the common sense arguments. Short and with plenty of punch.
As soon as there is someone that earns my vote, they'll get it. I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.
@@modernenglishman7802 I’m 72 and started voting at 21. The only President I’ve ever chosen to vote for has been Obama, twice. Every other vote is for the lesser evils. It’s a sad world, get used to it.
There is nothing to vote for other then war criminals. Wall street criminals and back by billionair presidents !
I have worked in the church (Swedish) for over 20 years. I was an atheist when I started, I'm even more of an atheist now. I sit and listen to the Sunday sermon and am amazed, these are grown people, and they believe this???
Yet, grown people spread, without belief, the myth of Santa to their children. And I'd argue Santa is more believable. WTF! 😂😂
@@dwolfcoach Yeah its f up.
Fun fact the caller ignores: you can both support Israel's right to exist and defend itself and at the same time oppose it's violence and mistreatment of Palestinians.
That’s nuance…we don’t do that here. 😂 🤦♂️ 😢
Evidently, Israel cannot possibly exist and defend itself without violently mistreating Palestinians.
All my friends are Jewish. I am very pro Israel but am also for the Palestinian people
I sort of agree but Israel existing is violence against Palestinians.
The Palestinian people voted for Hamas. End of story.
They like Trump because he is the physical manifestation of the very god they worship. He's cruel, indifferent, petty and he demands worship without question. As to the Israel / Palestine question, if this does not illustrate why we need to give up all religions then I don't what will.
The bigotry is what this caller agrees with when it comes to trump. He had no defense for all his other false reasons he likes trump.
Well said, but that also applies to most of the MAGA cult members.
"I like him because he hates the same people I hate!"
Christian "True Faith is to believe without evidence"
MAGA: "Trump Faith is to believe without evidence"
Man - just came to my mind do formulate it this way, and it works out parallel to the letter! Is that a sign it's the truth?
@@puckerings Why can't the magaots see he hates and loathes them most of all? When I see clips of the rallies, it almost seems like Trump is tired of the charade of the fake facade, despite his narcissistic love of blind praise.
Yes the only thing that makes sense is that they agree with his hateful, narrow, bigoted views. They know he's a groping-of-women business-criminal and dismiss it. It's no accident Trump targeted them as a reliable voter-base.
I'm a Christian and we are not persecuted in the USA.
Is this
The dumbest statement you ever heard coming out of a mega church preachers mouth? We have a AA mega church preacher in my local area who lives in a 4 million house in a gated community most of his congregation are middle to low income. He drove from the north side of town down to south side to talk that bs every Sunday. He preached a sermon that he is being persecuted because the IRS is after his him. He is a clown and his sheep believes him. He did that same crap Noel Olsteen did. We had an ice storm people power was out for days.
His officers ask if could open the church for members and he said
NO. Yet came back Sunday and preached how good god is because he and his family were good they dod not miss a beat when their 4, not 1. 2 or 3 but 4 Generac generators kicked in. What a piece of you know what
You are, just not as much as the right wing makes it out to be. Every demographic is. That's just reality.
@@sirgreedy88generally when people talk about persecution it's on a larger scale where its actually significant.
Christians are the majority, their persecution, the tiny amount that's there, is not that significant.
The amount of "persecution" that the Christian majority and "every group" faces, is just people being assholes. You can find one of those with hate towards every group like you said, but it's hardly persecution as we would think of it.
@@sirgreedy88well if everyone is persecuted, then its all equal, and the OP would be correct in saying christians aren't persecuted.
@@butkusfan23 That's not how that works. If I beat up you, and you beat up your neighbor, and your neighbor..etc. was nobody beat up?
I watched people who were friends for years call each other ugly things on social media while arguing about Trump. He is easily the most divisive person I have ever seen in my life. People either love him or hate him. I think he is a reality TV star. As phoney as they come. Liar liar pants on fire.
I have lost a few friends on Face Book because of my stance and comments on Trump. It's interesting that most of the friends that have blocked me are people from my elementary and high school days. I graduated HS in 1976, so most of those folks are in their 60s. Only one person from my college days did that. I attended a small, liberal arts college, from which I earned my Bachelor's degree in 1993. Most of my college friends are in their late thirties and early forties, and are much more progressive than my childhood friends.
I characterized him as a fission fungus even when he was only rallying.
@@russrollins9978 1976? Dang my mom was born in 1976.
I thought he was a swindler before he even got into office. I remember reading about Seven Springs and his casino failures long before he ever got elected.
Exactly... Trump is an actor and Biden has an actor playing him so either way.... who's really in the driver's seat?
Trump asked Marla Maples to abort Tiffany so he’s definitely not pro-life. He said it himself on Howard Stern’s show
The problem with the trump cultist, is they claim that he regrets what he did and has changed. When in reality, his narcissistic ass has never regretted anything he has ever done, because that would be a wound to his great ego.
That’s why he said he loves the uneducated, because the uneducated are primarily the ones susceptible to believing such ignorant rhetoric.
That's got to be really hard for Tiffany to hear.
@@davidstorrs who knows? Apparently he wasn’t in her life much when she was growing up.
Trump only changed his stance to con the Evangelical vote he does not really believe as they think he does he is a deceiver of many
@@dbonk6264 and good for her . I have had an iffy relationship with my father for most of my life and we’re so much better now but I would take my iffy relationship with my father over having Trump as a father 💀
“Don’t the Palestinians use children as human shields or something???” Broooo I can’t with these intellectually superior arguments, how am I supposed to argue against the impenetrable might of an “or something?”
The false prophets and false teacher's are driving Christians to worship and expect the Antichrist to save them. As a Christian it has honestly been traumatizing to see so many defend a man of sin, loves himself, hates women, lover of money and the king of lies...what a savior 😢
It's cool you're still Christian 👍🏽
You should give up that shit religion
Forrest: "Where on that spectrum of wrong to wrong do you find the right?"
Me: "Somewhere on there, yeah."
It should be a lesson to all that when you have a state backed religion, any criticism of the state is treated as criticism of the religion and by extension that religion's adherents. This is just one of many reasons why religion and politics should always be separate.
Every middle easter country is a theocratic government - EVERY! SINGLE! ONE!
Bingo
"God's chosen country/people" is a statement that should not be uttered by a thinking agent.
Unreal 😂😂😂
Didn't god create the whole planet?
@@jmaniak1
Nope
@@jmaniak1evidence or it didn't happen.
I am an ex-christian, but to me, Trump comes across as the anti-christ.
If he said and did everything the same but merely put a D next to his name instead of an R the exact same people acting like he is the second coming would be calling him the antichrist.
He really isn't. Don't get me wrong he's immoral and vile enough to qualify but Satan wouldn't choose someone that monumentally stupid.
@@ParanormalEncyclopediaI dunno, stupid people *are* easy to manipulate.
Seriously, am I the only one who remembered Trump campaigning on pulling US troops and support from Japan? Because I remember the first foreign leader to visit him was the Prime Minister of Japan, who gifted him a gold-plated golf club, and then suddenly Trump says Japan is our greatest ally and deserving of our unwavering support.
Stupid, greedy, and easy to manipulate.
Okay, so... that we know of, the only one of the 10 Commandments Drumpf hasn't broken is "Thou shall not kill", right?
@@kevinfrench9753 Dude ordered drone strikes just like any president (well, dumber ones than other presidents), but people still died by his order. Plus, there were casualties at the border concentration camps IIRC, which you can trace to his orders. Plus, there are the dead officers and insurrectionist from Jan 6, which are his fault too...
The man may not have shot anyone on 5th Avenue, but I think that's more out of sheer cowardice than anything else. He has no problem with other people dying by his orders.
It’s exactly people like that caller that has put America in the situation it’s in right now.
I feel the need to point out, since Forrest and Jimmy didn’t, that the attack the caller was referring to @15:22 happened on Easter 2019 during an Easter service, hence the term “Easter worshippers.” It wasn’t a fear of or aversion to the term “Christian.” This took two seconds to find out.
“Intellectually lazy” would be the kindest thing to say after hearing this guy talk for so long …
Lack of intellect.
A spectacularly effective dissection of an irrational position. Thank you for all you do.
When i hear 2 Corinthians, as Trump said it, i keep expecting the next line to be ".....walk into a bar" :)
😂😂😂
Andrew is a perfect example why I don't bother anymore. He will deny reality rather than face the facts in front of him.
You cant debate extreme stupidity.
It shouldn’t be called “pro life” it should be called “pro dividing cells” or “pro tadpole” 🙄
Andrew's mind is like a little wheel and he hasn't figured out he's not getting anywhere by scampering faster.
Trump supporters are a special kind of special. I just don't understand what anybody sees in that man.
They are a special kind of dumb.
He hurts the people they don't like.
He gives them license to be terrible people.
The scary thing is they see a reflection of themselves and are easily fools.
Trump tells it like it is unless he's lying or fooling himself (and me), but if you point that out, I'll just fall back on my trusty friend whataboutism and firmly bury my head back in the sand.
“Conservative freedom policies?” Seriously?
Translation: Religious liberty for me but not thee
This is brilliant. I am from the UK. The US should be proud of Jimmy and Forrest. I love them.❤
EPIC. Love that you both broke down Andrew’s answers with FACTS that prove what he was saying was rubbish. Good job!!!
Is anyone else amazed that Andrew stayed on the line for this thorough evisceration?
It almost made me wonder if the guy was for real or some kind of plant
They don't care. It's their hate of women, homosexuals, POC, and immigrants.
The reference to "Easter worshippers" was because it happened during Easter Mass. Easter, besides Christian, means a time of peace and reflection. They highlighted that these Christians were killed while practicing their faith, not merely as they went about their daily lives. For example, the Trump ordered attack on Christians in a Church, who were not actively worshiping.
Yeah its like if a group of Christmas carolers were gunned down and some said they were a group of "christmas carolers" instead of saying they were Christians. Oh no, how dare they!
I was thinking the same thing 😂.
How odd, I was a Christian for 60 years and never thought of Easter as a time of peace. I know it was supposed to be reconciliation with God but, the human sacrifice overrode that in my brain. It was always a problem for me, how I stuck with it so long is what puzzles me.
@@26beegee In my Catholic apologist youth, my perspective was that peace requires both sides to realize that the sacrifice was too great to continue. Human lives are sacrificed every day to uphold specific ideas or principles. I had a difficult childhood, so my perspective was that crucification was a token amount of suffering; mundane death as an escape from the limitations of time and space. Death and peace are deeply linked from my trauma. I’m glad you found another path.
I am Protestant and I understood that
The one thing I wished they asked Andrew is “Is there anything you could learn about Trump that would make you not want to vote for him?” Because I’m genuinely curious about whether he would even be able to answer that.
Many asked that question have said "No." outright. Clowns.
This caller is a perfect example of the willful blindness of trump worshipers. If he were anyone else, they'd hate him.
besides cheating , lying, hypocrisy, untrustworthiness, what are the Christian values
Trump For Prison 2024 🇺🇸
Gonna be his best term yet
This was like watching a tennis match between Djokovic and a platypus..
I gotta hand it to Andrew for sticking through this call. He’s a numbskull who’s not gonna change his mind even though he’s getting BURIED, but at least he’s being honest when confronted with the actual facts Forrest and Jimmy are presenting.
I have to credit both Forrest and Jimmy for keeping cool and talking to Andrew like an actual human being cause I know I would've lost it.
This is the best podcast I’ve seen in years… great stuff!!!
You can’t reason with people who are guided by their feelings.
You know that can go for liberals as well, not only conservatives.
@@phi4721 I didn’t mention political affiliation for a reason.
I love when Jimmy gets political. One of the most important subjects.
And yet, Jimmy proudly supports the blue half of the corporate party. 🤦♂
36:53 Not really.
@@wraithfivekay7082 Most dems don't want Blue Trump to run again either, but they're still dems.
@@wraithfivekay7082 politics dictates your freedoms and rights.... Ya, not important.
How dare he pick the better of his only two options, the audacity!
Wow I have never heard a trumper suffer through that many logical arguments. Lowest common denominator indeed.
@Studio732JRL Yep. In my mind, I imagine this guy waking up the next day and being like "holy shit, they're right!". But in reality, you're right... they don't do that. They just go on with their lives, happy to exist in their elementary school level social circles, hating vast swaths of the human population, and loving a character that supposedly died a couple millennia ago.
He is being respectful and calm. I appreciate that about him. So rare to hear 45 supporters being honest
However it is interesting how he hardly can answer any questions because saying it out loud shows how wrong it is.
This was fkn brilliant! Great job to both you! 🎉
"Where in that spectrum of wrong to wrong do you find the right?" THAT was brilliant!
Thanks! You two kicked ass. My face is in pain from grinning
My head hurts from how brainwashed the caller was.
WOW, this is the best re-enactment of the "Stop! He's already dead!" bit from the Simpsons.
I recently heard a good one in the same type of comment. We were discussing politics with a guy similar to Andrew. Finally the guy with a polysci degree stands up and just goes off on a 10 min rant debunking every comment. Then he sits down and goes quiet. Someone else said. HEY MAN!!! IF YOU LEAD THE HORSE TO WATER AND HE DOESNT DRINK. ITS BECAUSE HES DEAD....GET OFF!!! 🤣
@@dj_menyo839 Not sure who said it first, but there's a fun variant; you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink....SO YOU SMACK THE HORSE TILL IT DOES!
You can m a ke the horse drink, it's called torture.
It makes .ca animals do this ng s they don't want to.
@@MarquisLeary34You can shower trump in water but he's still gonna stink.
It is absurd that anyone believes trump is in anyway a theistic person 🙄😑
Or a good choice for president, or anything outside of prison, really.
At least Andrew will have the conversation. Every Republican I've tried to have that conversation with goes to "fake news" or gets angry (likely both).
Imagine having all your points proven wrong, you agree with said proof, and still choosing to vote for the person you most disagree with.
OMG ... Andrew sums up all MAGA!!!
Yes obtuse.
Just loved it when they asked him to quote his favorite bible verse..........stunned silence.
Forest and Jimmy you guys are great and so polite. And you know the Bible and world events at present and past. Excellent show
I don't know how the word "polite" could possibly be stretched to include Jimmy's behaviors in this video. Jimmy was contemptuous and rude. An incredibly disappointing display for someone who values high-quality discourse.
you guys handled this one incredibly, and we have to say he was an honest interlocutor.
Why does it always boil down to "How DARE you look up facts and point out I'm wrong and stupid?!" xD
First time viewer....I love it, brutal, but enjoy the honesty and passion
of the debates
People like Andrew depress me.
He just like picks stuff to believe. No investigation, not thought, just Oh that guy said a thing that sounds good. Well that must be tru!
But it's even worse. He's SO sure that even when confronted with blunt obvious evidence of the contrary his whole argument boils down to "well that's not what I believe so that's not tru!"
Find your way out man. Those of us on the outside got here by investigating what we DIDN"T believe and find out it was tru.
I was raised Christian in a very conservative area. After the first election I voted in I realized I hadn't really looked to hard into politics. When I did I snapped left real fast. Cuz the GOP are just liars. they just are. They make shit up and lie cuz their actual policies are unpopular and don't work.
I got lucky my brother was hardlined democratic socialist (menshevik)
when i met bernie back in 2015 in minnesota I knew these were the policies we needed i was 14 im now 22 and im even further left than my brother
im trans they recently came out as queer and we both are the farthest left in both our family and extended trumps fuck up from 2016-2020 made my dad wake the fuck up and he voted biden in 2020
meanwhile im the anarcho-syndicalist
My family are republicans who raised me to think that left-wingers are irresponsible idiots with insane policies that would ruin the country. As a kid I thought I was also a Republican until I discovered which side stands for which values. Turns out I was on the left the whole time. Even took a “which political party do you belong to” test at 13 and thought it was wrong because the results said I was a democrat 😂
@@amberharmsen2497hell yeah
I think Andrew will eventually find his way out.
It amazes me that every Trump supporter gets dressed down like this in just about every interview by independent media, yet he still enjoys so much support. It shows MAGA is a cult.
The next time the discussion around "should the woman be punished" comes up, I'd like you all to ask if whether it would be fair if the sperm donor should also be punished since they're involved in this too.
Exactly 💯
This caller demonstrates how screwed we are as a country. These cult members get to vote, and their vote counts the same as rational non-cult members.
Considering the saying "there's no hate like Christian love", you probably could say that they ARE well aligned.
And I thought that Forrest's science mojo is great... But holy funk, he's so good here too, whatever the topic!
We need more Forrest hosting here!
I feel a little sorry for the caller, he's just so brainwashed.
It honestly makes me want to cry but I am a sap 😂
Willfully ignorant
Love Jimmy’s smile. That caller should be embarrassed.
I've never met a Republican, MAGA hatter or ultra-right-winger who could be shamed or embarrassed. They don't possess those abilities.
It comes down to one thing guys, evangelistics would vote for Charles Manson is he would promise to outlaw abortion.
Don't forget about what DJT said when he found out that there were some Black people in his accounting department for his casino (Taj Mahal). "l don't want Black folks counting my money - I want people with Yarmikas" (Jews)
Forrest and Jimmy - I know you don't need my approval - but very well done gentlemen - VERY well done.
How in the F**K can someone who wants to win, vote for a guy who has lost the popular vote TWICE!?
*Trump Impression* "Cause I'm the best. No one is as good as I am. There is no one as best as me."
That was an excellent question: "How is democracy working out for Palestinians?" Whatever bits and pieces are left of them, once Israel's done.
If anyone is still confused whether to vote Conservative or Liberal: just compare "the most conservative countries" to "the most liberal countries" and check which countries on those lists enjoy the most "Happiness."
It's Interesting those SAME "Happiest" countries are also rated with the MOST "Personal Freedom" and are "Safest" of all countries. The other list is rated LEAST on those qualities of any other country.
The 5 Most Conservative Countries:
Yemen
Mali
Iran
Pakistan
Chad
The 5 Most Liberal Countries:
Norway
Sweden
Denmark
Finland
Iceland
No spoilers, but do we even have to look up which country's people are "Happiest", have the most "Personal Freedom", and are "Safest" of all, and which are least of all? (It's an easy lookup, if necessary).
After looking at the obvious reality for yourself, why would any sane person risk a vote to move our country towards more 'conservative'?
Is their precious "Hate" worth sacrificing more happiness, personal freedoms, and safely?
This!
🙌
Awesome post!!
Imagine a world where "killing children is bad" is a controversial statement that can get you demonetized...
The worst part of that is that we don't have to imagine it.
“YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED, GOOD SIR!” Hahahahahah 😂❤😂❤😂❤🎉
Great job Forrest, always a pleasure 💯
"You have been duped, Good Sir!"
Pop quiz for Trumpers: What denomination is he?
I rest my case.
Presbylutheran.
Wait, no, that's The Simpsons.
Corinthians Two😂
All of them.
@@redmed10 All of them, one at a time as they suit him. All-denominational.
"I like to think of myself more as a numerator than a dominator." - Donald Trump
The caller said Trump is pro-god lol Trump isn't pro-god. He's pro-himself.
And I have to say, Jimmy, that's a great Trump impression 😂😂
trump is pro God, it’s just that he’s convinced he IS god. 😂😂😂
Is that the freedom to be conservative or the freedom to impose your conservativeness on others?
"Eviscerate" should replace "shred" as the title.
Trump changed his mind of his own volition exactly when he announced he was running for president and it benefited him politically to do so. Biden was playing to the crowd when he supported gay marriage years before his own political party and well before being gay was widely accepted in the US. These two thoughts coexist in his brain. He can actually hold two contradictory thoughts to be true simultaneously and thats actually kinda fascinating.
literally the definition of double think lol
I don’t know if the hosts chose to ignore that detail in favor of another approach or line of conversation, but I would’ve personally held his feet to the fire on this transgression until he either admitted he is a dishonest hypocrite or changes his views (at least states on air that he does). I’m not as easily irritated and crass as Matt and Jimmy (which I don’t necessarily think is always a bad thing, by the way), but in this case I would curse and mock to my heart’s content until Andrew faced his own hypocrisy. My civility has a very low limit when it comes to intellectual dishonesty.
A loud, obnoxious, violent, controlling, one track mind does make trump aligned with christians, I will give him that haha.
Since Kissinger times and his boss Richard Nixon, USA was very friendly towards Israel. I am Jewish.
Forrest got so excited, I'm so here for this 🤣🤣
Andrew, how about Trump praising Hezbola, and Humis (AKA: Hamas) as wise and led by smart people?
Hey, how about when interviewers asked him about the Bible being his favorite book if he could share his favorite Bible verse? Nothing! That guy has NEVER read the Bible.
He's never read any book. He has what is known as Developmental Dyslexia which is a form of dyslexia which allows the sufferer to actually read out loud, like off a teleprompter, but without understanding the words. It's like reading a foreign language. Imagine how good someone would be in school if they couldn't read a text book, couldn't read an exam paper. Trump would have been the worst student in every class he ever took. Any fake qualifications he might have been given were bought and paid for by daddy. That's why he's fought so hard to keep his grades a secret. Back in his day developmental dyslexia would not have been known about so his teachers would just have thought he's retarded.
When Trump says he loves the uneducated, he's talking about Andrew (he/him) - Florida.
Convinced any committed republican voters at this point have abandoned the reasoning skills altogether that would allow them to make a rational decision regarding any constructive values.
Because they don't have the same political leaning as you?
@@phi4721No, because they are clearly demonstrating by their adherence to movement that not only fails to promote a reasonable ideology but is also problematic for their wellbeing. This very well illustrates a position that is reached due to the abandonment of reason.
No one can convince me that Jimmy doesn't practice his Trump impersonation for an hour every evening.
The voice and the gestures are just too damn good.
Never change Jimmy, never change
Jimmy knocked this one out of the park.. and his timing is perfect