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I already played few missions, it plays well, thanks a lot! I had the Dreamcast when it came out, I saw the previews of GTA 3 in the magazines (as well as others such Max Payne, Castlevania, Unreal,... all unreleased) but it never came out. It was a big disappointment. Now you repaired something in the Dreamcast history, you finally brought the game that should have changed all.
@@virusnite2148 It's not fake I am playing it at the moment... I know it is not the version Rockstar was working on (the one we saw in the previews 25yrs earlier) but this team successfully ported it and quite well. So now, we can confirm GTA 3 exists on Dreamcast.
Love the 'double string' from 00:10 til 00:21 feels like a cool remix of the intro cutscene tune. Not sure if its intentional, but the music creates itself lol
Lembro do mano do Dreamcast Nostalgia falando dessa parada da Ram do Dreamcast, que tem um jogo futurista Open World pra Dreamcast, esqueci o nome, que os devs utilizaram tuneis pra contornar o problema da quantidade de ram do Dreamcast. Aí eu digo essa parada da complessão de textura da Vram do Dreamcast, é o trunfo contra os problema de pouca ram, que eu acho em um port, essa parada de fazer a compressão e descomprimir a textura ela tem que ser implementada na Engine, tanto, muita gente pensa que todos os jogos de Dreamcast usa isso, pelo contrario, são poucos que usam, jogo que usou massivamente foi Shemnue 1 e 2. Esse GTA3 de Dreamcast deve ter sido um desafio implementar o recurso de compressão e descompressão, não tivesse esse recurso, não seria possivel ter o Open World no GTA 3 de Dreamcast, ah não ser que usasse tuneis com lowndings disfarçado. A outra parada achei interessante que o Luiz Nai falou no Nai Adventure, GTA3 foi otimizado via baixo nivel, mas incrível que parece, SH4 e o Power VR2 ainda esta entre 20/10% ansioso, resumindo, ainda vai ter melhoria de framerate em builds posteriores dessa versão do Estefano. Mas estou curioso em ver os Fork, principalmente do Frogbull. A performance atual ja esta quase a nível da versão de PS2. Muita gente vai achar estranho pq a versão de PS2 parece mais suave, digo por 3 coisas, imagem entrelaçada. que faz a imagem ficar embaçada, filtro de AA fake da acunha de Bluer, que ajuda as bordas ficarem todas embaçada e a imagem escura, da a impressão de esta mais suave, fora o Motion Blue que disfarça mais o baixo framerate, uns truque muito usado que ficam horrorosos em TVs modernas, mais engana bem em TV de tubo. Seria interessante Dreamcast Nostalgia procurar mexer na dublagem desse jogo, tentar usar a IA pra deixar os timbre de voz mais proxima das vozes originais, que essa dublagem BR que não é muito legal as vozes são meia parecidas umas com as outras, ta aí a dica.
Sou eu mesmo, Ricardo ravi!!eu teorizava de mais!! É muito bom ver que o sonho virou real e exploraram mais possibilidade no console! De verdade, tá incrível o jogo!!!!
De fato. A Sega meio que adotou o Xbox com o fim do Dreamcast, inclusive o controle do Xbox original se inspirou no Dreamcast, corrigindo as falhas óbvias.
Играл в эту версию на DC, отлично прходится она. Единственный минус большая просадка в FPS при скоплении персонажей и автомобилей на улице. Являюсь поклонником Sony, но считаю Dreamcast лучшей консолью в своем поколении.
I imagine if the Dreamcast had had a DVD drive, things would have been significantly different. GTA 3 would have been on 2 discs on the Dreamcast unless they were able to compress the 1.5GB ISO down to less than a gigabyte.
Even without mentioning DVDs, if Rockstar had ported GTA 3 back then, it would have been much more impressive and optimized than this on the Dreamcast.
Games on PS2 actually isnt that big size wise, the one eat up DVD storage is the FMV/multimedia part of it. Hence why capcom replace real time rendering of RE4 in gameCube with FMV because there is much more storage in it
@@bpcgos I think they did that to save time though. GC models look much better, and in cutscenes, they're the focal point, the star of the show, so they have to look as good as possible. All the storage in the world won't look as sharp as something running in real time, so these scenes still looked much better on GC despite not having all that storage available. It would have been another story if they had replaced it with actual CGI scenes using PS2's larger storage.
Did you know the original Xbox was, at one point, going to be backwards-compatible w/SEGA Dreamcast games? The plan was cancelled after they realized the Xbox would need to be delayed & cost more to add the feature. But just imagine
It will be a good version. That is the most importantly. No need to compare with other consoles. It will be better on some things and a bit inferior on others. Which is natural related to how the hardware is :)
Версия для Dreamcast основана на версии для PC, однако, версия для XBOX вышла позже всего и содержит много визуальных улучшений, поэтому сравнение не совсем корректно. Более корректно сравнивать PS2 и Dreamcast
Sinceramente, Orlando, estás loco. Incluso la versión de Xbox tiene una imagen más limpia y nítida que la de Dreamcast, incluso la de PS2. Lo que realmente ocurre es que en esta comparación, la Dreamcast tiene desactivados los rastros/trails (Aka Motion Blur), que también puedes desactivar en Xbox, PS2 y PC en el menú de pausa.
Dreamcast runs about 15FPS when there's anything going on, has no draw distance for textures or geometry and when there is a texture loaded it's very low resolution
@@bpcgos 3dfx, Ati and Nvidia want a word. In fact Sega worked with 3dfx and then decided to move to NEC because they claimed there would not be enough production of the chips for a console launch. 3dfx sued Sega alleging that Sega just used the time working together to steal 3dfx graphics technology. Sega settled the case and launched the Dreamcast. ruclips.net/video/vrY1JMEVym0/видео.html
Obviously the Xbox version looks a bit better, although not by much... I think the Dreamcast, if well used, could have given battle to the other 128-bit titans. 😍👍💚
I have to disagree on this, i think that the xbox version has that same blur effect that the ps2 version has, its also darker looking than the pc assets, framerate is stable but drops randomly and when the dips come in they stutter so hard Dc is in alpha so i imagine with probably give or take a few months, the dc port may be blowing all the console ports out of the water
@@MrJenkins2612 it looks like this because they lowered the visual specs for it not to run on single digits. There's room for improvement but i doubt it will ever look better than Xbox. The lighter colors are a good thing though, Xbox is way too dark at times.
@@MrJenkins2612 I never said that one console was better than the other, but simply that the Xbox makes use of its resources, so this game shouldn't be a problem. Well, it's a hardware from 2001 vs another from 1998. In this case, what's surprising is seeing that the result is almost the same using less hardware resources, and with possibilities of being at the level of the greats, which speaks well of the Dreamcast. Even the PS2 version could have been better with a bit more polish, just compare the work done with GTA San Andreas, it's very much on par with the Xbox one.
No, not even close. Yes the Xbox is better on paper specs wise, but the game is not taking advantage of that extra horsepower. The Dreamcast version is far better! This is an example of what can be achieved on the Dreamcast when it has a good team of developers behind it utilizing every last bit of it’s power.
The dreamcast was supposed to get a hard drive addon and possobly a dvd,i think it would have squared up to xbox but also been better than ps2 and gamecube All those dimb non gamers that bought ps2 for a dvd player eh
Dreamcast: 1.5 Gflops Xbox: 20 Gflops There's no comparison, the Dreamcast felt like a whole generation behind, spec-wise. But a really well optimized game on the Dreamcast could outshine most lazy and bad ported games on the Xbox. Shenmue was a good example. It looked and played better than 90% of games released on the Xbox.
Ad ons were what killed SEGA consoles. Way too many ad ons treated like new consoles. The Saturn failed. The dream cast should have used the Naomi 2 arcade hardware instead of the Naomi 1. That would have saved the Dreamcast. Naomi 2 was on level with Game Cube. Which would have looked much better if they used DVD
Its 480p, the same res with Xbox from 2001, imagione how forward thinking DC hardware at the time, even standard PS2 output are only 480i (means they only rendered half res of DC most of the time in the same game)
@@Dreamcast_Nostalgia Should I show you doctored PS2 videos from the emulator running from the SSD ? Real very slow GD ROM is far from streaming data from SD. When you have such a video, get in touch + stress test engine, so everyone can see that it drops below 10 fps. We need to be transparent, don't we.
XBOX vs DREAMCAST: É lógico que o XBOX vai ganhar, hardware é bem superior e a "base" é a mesma (windows ce), mas eu creio que o PS2 vs DREAMCAST o PS2 não vai ganhar não (meu ponto de vista...) ...
Sem dúvida, se comparar o hardware, é absurdamente inferior o DC. Mas a questão é o jogo em si, tá aparentemente mais bonito no DC, o que acha? Tive essa impressão
Acabou de lançar "GTA 3" a versao alpha!!!
Confira mais detalhes "📀" e tire suas dúvidas Em nosso Discord !!
discord.gg/4c6F5gBG3v
Inscrevam se para fortalecer a comunidade 🔥
FAKE DEMO! UNOFFICIAL FROM Rockstar and Sega! GTA 3 was never released for Sega Dreamcast! 👈
FAKE DEMO! UNOFFICIAL FROM Rockstar and Sega! GTA 3 was never released for Sega Dreamcast! 👈
I already played few missions, it plays well, thanks a lot!
I had the Dreamcast when it came out, I saw the previews of GTA 3 in the magazines (as well as others such Max Payne, Castlevania, Unreal,... all unreleased) but it never came out. It was a big disappointment. Now you repaired something in the Dreamcast history, you finally brought the game that should have changed all.
I remember seeing a Dreamcast GTA 3 back then too
@@virusnite2148
It's not fake I am playing it at the moment...
I know it is not the version Rockstar was working on (the one we saw in the previews 25yrs earlier) but this team successfully ported it and quite well. So now, we can confirm GTA 3 exists on Dreamcast.
Unreal was released
@@thalesonic
Oh great, I know unreal tournament was released but not unreal. I will have a look, it was a good pc game.
@ NO OFFICIAL Rockstar!👍
Acredito que com toda a experiência adquirida, também vão conseguir portar o Vice City
Love the 'double string' from 00:10 til 00:21 feels like a cool remix of the intro cutscene tune. Not sure if its intentional, but the music creates itself lol
Lembro do mano do Dreamcast Nostalgia falando dessa parada da Ram do Dreamcast, que tem um jogo futurista Open World pra Dreamcast, esqueci o nome, que os devs utilizaram tuneis pra contornar o problema da quantidade de ram do Dreamcast. Aí eu digo essa parada da complessão de textura da Vram do Dreamcast, é o trunfo contra os problema de pouca ram, que eu acho em um port, essa parada de fazer a compressão e descomprimir a textura ela tem que ser implementada na Engine, tanto, muita gente pensa que todos os jogos de Dreamcast usa isso, pelo contrario, são poucos que usam, jogo que usou massivamente foi Shemnue 1 e 2. Esse GTA3 de Dreamcast deve ter sido um desafio implementar o recurso de compressão e descompressão, não tivesse esse recurso, não seria possivel ter o Open World no GTA 3 de Dreamcast, ah não ser que usasse tuneis com lowndings disfarçado.
A outra parada achei interessante que o Luiz Nai falou no Nai Adventure, GTA3 foi otimizado via baixo nivel, mas incrível que parece, SH4 e o Power VR2 ainda esta entre 20/10% ansioso, resumindo, ainda vai ter melhoria de framerate em builds posteriores dessa versão do Estefano. Mas estou curioso em ver os Fork, principalmente do Frogbull.
A performance atual ja esta quase a nível da versão de PS2. Muita gente vai achar estranho pq a versão de PS2 parece mais suave, digo por 3 coisas, imagem entrelaçada. que faz a imagem ficar embaçada, filtro de AA fake da acunha de Bluer, que ajuda as bordas ficarem todas embaçada e a imagem escura, da a impressão de esta mais suave, fora o Motion Blue que disfarça mais o baixo framerate, uns truque muito usado que ficam horrorosos em TVs modernas, mais engana bem em TV de tubo.
Seria interessante Dreamcast Nostalgia procurar mexer na dublagem desse jogo, tentar usar a IA pra deixar os timbre de voz mais proxima das vozes originais, que essa dublagem BR que não é muito legal as vozes são meia parecidas umas com as outras, ta aí a dica.
Sou eu mesmo, Ricardo ravi!!eu teorizava de mais!! É muito bom ver que o sonho virou real e exploraram mais possibilidade no console!
De verdade, tá incrível o jogo!!!!
@@Dreamcast_Nostalgia Pois é, tanto vc falava, não era teoria, realmente é.
Bro just wrote a novel.
It’s not built for Dreamcast it is emulating PC which is harder than running a build designed for it like ps2 and xbox
@@southsidetherealest2860 google tradutor ou outra coisa que traduziu meu texto, traduziu mal que eu não falei isso.
Lindo demais ver isso acontecer!!! Parabéns a todos os envolvidos! Vou religar meu dreamcast apenas para apreciar esse trabalho!!
Technically this is Xbox 1 vs Xbox 2. The Dreamcast was powered my Microsoft Windows CE
Yes technically grand theft auto 3 on dreamcast is overpraising so much too im getting of videos about it.
@@eduardolobos7380la envidia es algo natural en los resentidos.
Rapaz 😮 que trabalho fantástico ❤ isso sim é uma obra de arte parabéns para rapaz do projeto 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Comparação entre dreamcast 1 e dreamcast 2 (xbox)
De fato. A Sega meio que adotou o Xbox com o fim do Dreamcast, inclusive o controle do Xbox original se inspirou no Dreamcast, corrigindo as falhas óbvias.
200mhz in Dreamcast vs 733mhz in XBox.
power vr vs celeron iii
Risc CPU vs. Cisc CPU
The xbox is the dreamcast succesor
Играл в эту версию на DC, отлично прходится она. Единственный минус большая просадка в FPS при скоплении персонажей и автомобилей на улице. Являюсь поклонником Sony, но считаю Dreamcast лучшей консолью в своем поколении.
Anyone has idea of what the framerate on the dc is ? (feels like 20- 25 maybe ?)
Quite good looking though !
Чаще всего 20-25, очень редко 30. Бывают просадки до 15. Но в целом играть можно
Around that yeah, but it's still in early Alpha - should match PS2 performance and look slightly better when it's ready for full release.
The Sega Dreamcast version does surprisingly good!
I imagine if the Dreamcast had had a DVD drive, things would have been significantly different. GTA 3 would have been on 2 discs on the Dreamcast unless they were able to compress the 1.5GB ISO down to less than a gigabyte.
Even without mentioning DVDs, if Rockstar had ported GTA 3 back then, it would have been much more impressive and optimized than this on the Dreamcast.
The Xbox version itself is actually way smaller than 1.5GB
Games on PS2 actually isnt that big size wise, the one eat up DVD storage is the FMV/multimedia part of it. Hence why capcom replace real time rendering of RE4 in gameCube with FMV because there is much more storage in it
@@bpcgos I think they did that to save time though. GC models look much better, and in cutscenes, they're the focal point, the star of the show, so they have to look as good as possible.
All the storage in the world won't look as sharp as something running in real time, so these scenes still looked much better on GC despite not having all that storage available. It would have been another story if they had replaced it with actual CGI scenes using PS2's larger storage.
Did you know the original Xbox was, at one point, going to be backwards-compatible w/SEGA Dreamcast games? The plan was cancelled after they realized the Xbox would need to be delayed & cost more to add the feature. But just imagine
Muito bom.
Parabéns aos desenvolvedores!
This is technically father vs son
Não duvido que se no final do projeto a versão de dreamcast seja a melhor do jogo
It will be a good version. That is the most importantly. No need to compare with other consoles. It will be better on some things and a bit inferior on others. Which is natural related to how the hardware is :)
Temos que esperar o port ficar pronto para termos essas conclusões
Exagera não, é uma boa versão, mas melhor não.
@Gabriiiigj mas pode melhorar futuramente
A versão do dreamcast é a de pc que já é a melhor do jogo da até pra costumizar os graficos
Where can I download?
Olha em pouco tempo de desenvolvimento conseguiram terminar o projeto é coisa de maluco parabéns a pessoa que conseguir é muito sinistra
Caramba, tá em pt-br dublado por ia! Aí sim em
Isn’t DC still in alpha
Cade o link para baixra ?
ruclips.net/video/mt8EHTF1y1E/видео.htmlsi=1nf9vra-tNM7zpdI
No contest. Xbox. It looked better than the PC version
Show mano cabelinho 😊
Xbox > dreamcast > ps2
*Corrección/Fixed:*
Xbox > PC > PS2 > Dreamcast
Tem o link para baixar ?
ruclips.net/video/mt8EHTF1y1E/видео.htmlsi=1nf9vra-tNM7zpdI
Logo vou tentar rodar no trimui smart pro pra ver
Excelente trabalho
Ta completo ou e so uma demo ?
Like pr fortalecer
Não tá rodando no redream ainda ?
@@pyttertp Ainda não
I'll go with the brighter Dreamcast version.
ainda quer ver os nerd for speed underground 1 e 2 hahah😎
Xbox easily, but very impressive work by the devs on this Dreamcast port.
bro, give link, pls
Está fixado no primeiro comentário
CDI please kkk
Dream Cast sempre ganha o game ganhou vida
Версия для Dreamcast основана на версии для PC, однако, версия для XBOX вышла позже всего и содержит много визуальных улучшений, поэтому сравнение не совсем корректно.
Более корректно сравнивать PS2 и Dreamcast
Llámenme loco pero la imagen se ve más limpia y nítida en Dreamcast.
Si estas loco, puedes incluso obtener una calidad de imagen igual o superior con una ps2 mediante el cable por componentes.
Sinceramente, Orlando, estás loco. Incluso la versión de Xbox tiene una imagen más limpia y nítida que la de Dreamcast, incluso la de PS2.
Lo que realmente ocurre es que en esta comparación, la Dreamcast tiene desactivados los rastros/trails (Aka Motion Blur), que también puedes desactivar en Xbox, PS2 y PC en el menú de pausa.
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Caramba!
Daqui a pouco roda o GTA SA Também topzeira 😮
SA eu não digo... mas o Vice City é quase certo hahaha
Tem uns neguin ai mau agradecido podia lançar um port english dc tmb talvez seriam mas gratos assim😅
Dreamcast runs about 15FPS when there's anything going on, has no draw distance for textures or geometry and when there is a texture loaded it's very low resolution
For 1998 hardware, that probably developed since 1996 minimum, its magic, even PC hardware in 98 wont get that far
@@bpcgos 3dfx, Ati and Nvidia want a word. In fact Sega worked with 3dfx and then decided to move to NEC because they claimed there would not be enough production of the chips for a console launch. 3dfx sued Sega alleging that Sega just used the time working together to steal 3dfx graphics technology. Sega settled the case and launched the Dreamcast. ruclips.net/video/vrY1JMEVym0/видео.html
Wow why dreamcast look cleaner than Xbox?
Because you are stupid, you get superior image quality connected the xbox though component cables.
Obviously the Xbox version looks a bit better, although not by much... I think the Dreamcast, if well used, could have given battle to the other 128-bit titans. 😍👍💚
I have to disagree on this, i think that the xbox version has that same blur effect that the ps2 version has, its also darker looking than the pc assets, framerate is stable but drops randomly and when the dips come in they stutter so hard
Dc is in alpha so i imagine with probably give or take a few months, the dc port may be blowing all the console ports out of the water
@@MrJenkins2612 it looks like this because they lowered the visual specs for it not to run on single digits. There's room for improvement but i doubt it will ever look better than Xbox. The lighter colors are a good thing though, Xbox is way too dark at times.
@@MrJenkins2612 I never said that one console was better than the other, but simply that the Xbox makes use of its resources, so this game shouldn't be a problem. Well, it's a hardware from 2001 vs another from 1998. In this case, what's surprising is seeing that the result is almost the same using less hardware resources, and with possibilities of being at the level of the greats, which speaks well of the Dreamcast. Even the PS2 version could have been better with a bit more polish, just compare the work done with GTA San Andreas, it's very much on par with the Xbox one.
@@MrJenkins2612That was intended.
No, not even close. Yes the Xbox is better on paper specs wise, but the game is not taking advantage of that extra horsepower. The Dreamcast version is far better! This is an example of what can be achieved on the Dreamcast when it has a good team of developers behind it utilizing every last bit of it’s power.
A dreamcast esta com melhor efeitos de luz do que na xbox. As luzes reflectem mais no carro do que na xbox.
Isso foi mais rápido do que eu passei
The dreamcast was supposed to get a hard drive addon and possobly a dvd,i think it would have squared up to xbox but also been better than ps2 and gamecube
All those dimb non gamers that bought ps2 for a dvd player eh
Dreamcast: 1.5 Gflops
Xbox: 20 Gflops
There's no comparison, the Dreamcast felt like a whole generation behind, spec-wise.
But a really well optimized game on the Dreamcast could outshine most lazy and bad ported games on the Xbox.
Shenmue was a good example. It looked and played better than 90% of games released on the Xbox.
Ad ons were what killed SEGA consoles. Way too many ad ons treated like new consoles. The Saturn failed. The dream cast should have used the Naomi 2 arcade hardware instead of the Naomi 1. That would have saved the Dreamcast. Naomi 2 was on level with Game Cube. Which would have looked much better if they used DVD
10 fps drops with DC, fake running from SD not CD, much reduced draw distance !!
GD-EMU.
Its 480p, the same res with Xbox from 2001, imagione how forward thinking DC hardware at the time, even standard PS2 output are only 480i (means they only rendered half res of DC most of the time in the same game)
@@Dreamcast_Nostalgia Should I show you doctored PS2 videos from the emulator running from the SSD ? Real very slow GD ROM is far from streaming data from SD. When you have such a video, get in touch + stress test engine, so everyone can see that it drops below 10 fps. We need to be transparent, don't we.
Só falta dizer que tá melhor que no xbox kkkk
ruclips.net/video/cp718VgNJg0/видео.html - drop to 0fps, super slow GD ROM is totally not good enough.
XBOX vs DREAMCAST: É lógico que o XBOX vai ganhar, hardware é bem superior e a "base" é a mesma (windows ce), mas eu creio que o PS2 vs DREAMCAST o PS2 não vai ganhar não (meu ponto de vista...) ...
Sem dúvida, se comparar o hardware, é absurdamente inferior o DC.
Mas a questão é o jogo em si, tá aparentemente mais bonito no DC, o que acha? Tive essa impressão
@@Dreamcast_Nostalgia Usaram o mesmo estilo de clima da versão mobile.
Mais azul e um tom mais alaranjado.
@Gabriiiigj é da versão pc o clima também usaram no mobile só que colocará mais saturação nos celulares
@@jonathasdiractx4965 S, vc nota pelo polígonos nos personagens.