It's weird how this conversation happens over and over and my brain still watches in on several different platforms and videos. I've heard every version of this and still listen..... weird guy, that brain i got
Jerry's the best at just cutting through all the BS and just making things make sense. My favourite example of this is in the CICGC ep with Bill Burr when Bill mentions how loves that Cuba has classic 50s American cars everywhere and Jerry says "do you think they think of them as classics?" 😂
Absolutely.. I loved that show. He was completely different. Years ago I thought he was arrogant, but watching all those episodes, I had mad respect for him. His confidence and honesty were admirable. And what great interviews. I miss that show.
Gotcha moments are worse when they're not even close to being accurate. List of non "white male" guests: Sarah Silverman Gad Elmaleh Chris Rock Tina Fey Sarah Jessica Parker George Wallace Aziz Ansari Kevin Hart Amy Schumer Miranda Sings Ali Wentworth Julia Louis-Dreyfus Steve Harvey Trevor Noah Barack Obama Kathleen Madigan Margaret Cho J.B. Smoove Kristen Wiig Cedric the Entertainer Dave Chappelle Ellen Degeneres Tracy Morgan Has Minhaj Kate McKinnon Eddie Murphy Jamie Foxx Mario Joyner Melissa Villasenor Bridget Everett Give me a fuckin' break. Of course, this will be seen as cynical, and his season lineups only got more diverse because of the backlash. Ya can't win.
It's not just them. There are multiple channels reporting on it like it is a brand new clip, and people in the comments are accepting it as reality. The Internet has made everyone into mindless idiots who believe anything they are told.
He talked about it Stern years ago. Colin Quinn mentioned it to him that he needs have some women and non-white comics on or the media was going start questioning him about.
First we have Mark Cuban arguing DEI with Musk. Then jext thing you know Cuban is a Minority Owner... I think you're going the wrong way with this one, Cuban!
I agree that "keeping score" is just not based on anything good usually. It's too restrictive; yes you want to include, but liek when you start to be scared or concerned too much with numbers etc., then you're being repressive.
How many green eyed people were booked at the Comedy Cellar...and does it accurately represent their proportion in the overall population...what about red haired comedians? Or maybe people just intuitively recognize someone who is funny and that's what really matters.
Diversity isn't good or bad, it's neutral. You take 5 white male comedians, and you remove one of them and put a black woman up there, and the improvement would come solely from the degree to which she's funnier than the guy you removed. Her blackness or womaness does NOTHING for the equation.
these guys mean well but are VERY OFF...i don't consider myself woke per se, but it's just way too easy nowadays to dismiss things as woke and reverse racist bc you can play devils advocate with nearly any subject today with selective facts.....i love sam, but you cant say you're for diversity and it's good and then say you stop at counting? then how the hell does it change for the better if you dont see the stats??? the colorblind idea is a modernist understanding of race- as in it ignores the life experience as another race, it says all people are humans and the same ...the better post modern idea is to say even though someone is a different race and has completely different life exp, they are still worthy of respect- this highlights the difference of race and yet gives all races the respect they deserve.....my point in all this is, and i love mark too, but their understanding of what woke is is so reductive and simple they dont get how things that are meant to remedy inequality work....that's how you get idiots like musk saying quotas are racist, a juvenile gotcha idea.....what i will say is there should be a time and place to discuss these things and the interviewer read the room wrong....but the idea that seinfeld got mostly white comics or anything like this, has merit and should be examined if DEI is actually something you are for, Sam.....BTW the musk gotcha w the chinese lady basketball player is moot (basketball is a sport and demands players be of certain height and build usually to be competitive-- there is nothing intrinsically white about being a good comic- not the same thing---there are MORE comic that are white surely, but to say whites are better at comedy IS what would be racist FI you were to say that.....
Elon's argument sucked there because Cuban's talking about business strategy and Musk brings it to sports. Obviously the taller more athletic person is preferable for sports, but in a business/ academic world where acumen can come from anyone, favoring a specific race is racist. Plus dude grew up in apartheid South Africa and his dad ran an emerald mine. Musk being a 'man of the people' spouting 'common sense' is insane.
It is the best example. Why do you think hiring a subpar firefighter, cop, surgeon, or pilot for the sake of diversity would be okay, yet a basketball game is off-limits? No one's life is at risk if they mandate wnba players to play along with the NBA players. But, there are extreme risks when hiring mediocre employees that dictate how our society functions. The bottom line, just like sports a business is ran like a team and if you want the best results for everyone then they should hire the most qualified regardless of race, age, or who they want to sleep with.
Unfortunately the premise" the best person for the job vs diversity" is false. Hiring solely for diversity is a losing argument I agree. The sad reality is humans often can be very tribal, to the the detriment of those not of the tribe. Inclusion by mandate is not inclusion. Leadership based on lineage and legacy will fail eventually, because new, possibly better ideas, more efficient practices will be missed or overlooked. History has shown this over and over.In world war 2 the invasion of Normandy, it was a farmer who help to defeat the hedgerows so the allies could liberate Europe. Not a military historian, not a war college educated graduate. A farmer, a farmer with a more diverse background than his peers. There's nothing fair about being elite. Jerry is correct to say "are you funny? ( elite ) than I'm interested.
These guys are towing the line and saying "diversity is great of course", then start talking with their actual rational opinions. Whats funny about DEI people is from what side of their mouth say to see color and culture everywhere but then say every role in society needs to mirror the pie chart of society as if cultures don't have preferences and may value certain professions over others.
I'm just sayin, it's a complicated topic. And I probably shouldn't have brought it up because I don't watch We Might Be Drunk clips for ultra nuanced takes on the issues of the day. But I'm taking Elon's opinions with a saltmine. That guys sucks.
You missed the entire point. We should hire and promote people based on merit and accomplishment, and NOT based on race (a.k.a. racism) in any industry. If patterns emerge, oh well. That's how meritocracy works.
Ik this is a comedy podcast and its all mostly jokes but I just wanted to highlight that being outspokenly against DEI is kind of an ignorant position to take. Theres like centuries of systemic racism and sexism stacked against minorities, they don't have equal opportunities to succeed. We have to have things like it because otherwise we could continue to just never have diverse voices and talent.
This is such a stupid conversation. So let me get this straight. Adversity is good, but if you see a lack thereof you cannot say anything about it? Let's just pretend it's not happening and eventually it will go away? I don't know how you people think problems are solved. But I can tell you that ignoring them doesn't usually work. Jerry could have said, gee I never thought about it but let me think about it and see if you have a point.
Very odd question to ask Seinfeld considering minorities did not care nor watched his show because they could not relate. It’s a white guy’s show with white guy humor and experiences. Sorry but most minorities just don’t relate to that white dry humor. Culture and social upbringing’s determine humor. Very strange topic.
It's weird how this conversation happens over and over and my brain still watches in on several different platforms and videos. I've heard every version of this and still listen..... weird guy, that brain i got
Same hahah
Maybe it's by design
It's like they won't stop talking about it.
It definitely is. RUclips loves white guys complaining about people complaining about white guys@@rubbertoe86
It's because we all share the same brain. Literally.
Jerry's the best at just cutting through all the BS and just making things make sense. My favourite example of this is in the CICGC ep with Bill Burr when Bill mentions how loves that Cuba has classic 50s American cars everywhere and Jerry says "do you think they think of them as classics?" 😂
How could Normand let a phrase like "minority owner" breeze past without noticing?!
Is that the Paulie Painting from the Sopranos. I need that.
"Let's bring Katt Williams" hahahaha
Hilarious and completely un-appreciated in the moment
Works on multiple levels too
Comedy needs to be a meritocracy, because if it isn't, then it isn't funny.
*every industry
How did Mark ignore the “minority owner” pun with Cuban?!
seinfeld has never given 2 Fs, people that watched his comedians in cars getting coffee, see what he's more like than the tv persona
Absolutely.. I loved that show. He was completely different. Years ago I thought he was arrogant, but watching all those episodes, I had mad respect for him. His confidence and honesty were admirable. And what great interviews. I miss that show.
Gotcha moments are worse when they're not even close to being accurate. List of non "white male" guests:
Sarah Silverman
Gad Elmaleh
Chris Rock
Tina Fey
Sarah Jessica Parker
George Wallace
Aziz Ansari
Kevin Hart
Amy Schumer
Miranda Sings
Ali Wentworth
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Steve Harvey
Trevor Noah
Barack Obama
Kathleen Madigan
Margaret Cho
J.B. Smoove
Kristen Wiig
Cedric the Entertainer
Dave Chappelle
Ellen Degeneres
Tracy Morgan
Has Minhaj
Kate McKinnon
Eddie Murphy
Jamie Foxx
Mario Joyner
Melissa Villasenor
Bridget Everett
Give me a fuckin' break. Of course, this will be seen as cynical, and his season lineups only got more diverse because of the backlash. Ya can't win.
Plus there are, like at least 8 black guys on CICGC, and a ton of women.
It's cuz these 2 are talking about a clip from nearly a decade ago when CICGC had only aired 22 episodes
"Yeahh, lets get into THAT!"
It's so funny how similar this is to that Bo Burnham podcast sketch
I’m gay
Low key, “bring in Katt Williams” 😂
Seinfield is the hero we never knew we needed 😂
Yeah it’s a lame question and rightfully roasted but his interview clip about MeToo specifically is borderline psychotic.
Mark got this diner picture with the Feld
Sam is spot on about the counting thing.
I'd have used the actual term QUOTAS. Commies!
i wish there was more diversity in the rest of the world, not just the west.
Love the Thief shirt, Sam.
Sam and mark are like a couple , so cute
Didn’t know either of you before this podcast/vlog but love the vibe, the guest interactions, and discussions. Great new sub
😂
Do you want diversity when it comes to your airline pilot or surgeon?
The dumber, the better.
Or rocket surgeon for that matter
My mirror is not diverse enough. Maybe we should all just get diverse mirrors
I dont think you're allowed to be a minority owner anymore
Diversity quotas are poison to the entertainment industry.
If you remember a little thing called Soviet Russia it turns out theyre poison for all of society
*every industry
That clip is 7 years old. FFS. These guys are on top of their game.
I was thinking the same thing. I first thought "Buzzfeed is still a thing?" Then found the clip from years ago.
It's not just them. There are multiple channels reporting on it like it is a brand new clip, and people in the comments are accepting it as reality. The Internet has made everyone into mindless idiots who believe anything they are told.
@@Dartanyoogles Yep, just look at people that voted for Joe Biden. Braindead dolts
I bet Mark Cuban kept a minority interest in the Mavs just so he could be "a minority". 😂
that was 9 years ago
?… how can you say you valued diversity and also think that everybody should be hired on merit alone?
He talked about it Stern years ago. Colin Quinn mentioned it to him that he needs have some women and non-white comics on or the media was going start questioning him about.
First we have Mark Cuban arguing DEI with Musk. Then jext thing you know Cuban is a Minority Owner... I think you're going the wrong way with this one, Cuban!
Yet he's had Tracy Morgan, chappelle, Rock, JB Smoove, murphy, Harvey
yeah, he's probably gonna come on
I agree that "keeping score" is just not based on anything good usually.
It's too restrictive; yes you want to include, but liek when you start to be scared or concerned too much with numbers etc., then you're being repressive.
How many green eyed people were booked at the Comedy Cellar...and does it accurately represent their proportion in the overall population...what about red haired comedians?
Or maybe people just intuitively recognize someone who is funny and that's what really matters.
Well I'm not sure if "What can I say I like funny people" is the answer Jerry needed to give
I think they missed a joke when Cuban turned into a minority owner
5:04 Mark Cuban actually got 3 billion!
Merit matters. The DEI stuff is a dumpster fire.
Fark, these guys are so salty about Kat Williams comments still LOL
Diversity is not important.
This is an old interview, why it resurfaced again
The term “minority” owner triggers me! Lol, surprised people haven’t made a big deal out of this yet 🤦♂️
Sean Strickland for President
2 clones chatting about diversity.
Diversity isn't good or bad, it's neutral. You take 5 white male comedians, and you remove one of them and put a black woman up there, and the improvement would come solely from the degree to which she's funnier than the guy you removed. Her blackness or womaness does NOTHING for the equation.
Diversity is neutral but forced diversity is always bad
"Of course diversity's good"
Is it?
Katt Williams 😂
They hate us cuz we’re funnier and smarter than them 😂
How about the president and vice president of the US, don't we want the best?
Minority owner...owns minorities?
Going viral? Isn’t it an old clip
How did you guys not make a joke about being a Minority Owner, comedy!
these guys mean well but are VERY OFF...i don't consider myself woke per se, but it's just way too easy nowadays to dismiss things as woke and reverse racist bc you can play devils advocate with nearly any subject today with selective facts.....i love sam, but you cant say you're for diversity and it's good and then say you stop at counting? then how the hell does it change for the better if you dont see the stats??? the colorblind idea is a modernist understanding of race- as in it ignores the life experience as another race, it says all people are humans and the same ...the better post modern idea is to say even though someone is a different race and has completely different life exp, they are still worthy of respect- this highlights the difference of race and yet gives all races the respect they deserve.....my point in all this is, and i love mark too, but their understanding of what woke is is so reductive and simple they dont get how things that are meant to remedy inequality work....that's how you get idiots like musk saying quotas are racist, a juvenile gotcha idea.....what i will say is there should be a time and place to discuss these things and the interviewer read the room wrong....but the idea that seinfeld got mostly white comics or anything like this, has merit and should be examined if DEI is actually something you are for, Sam.....BTW the musk gotcha w the chinese lady basketball player is moot (basketball is a sport and demands players be of certain height and build usually to be competitive-- there is nothing intrinsically white about being a good comic- not the same thing---there are MORE comic that are white surely, but to say whites are better at comedy IS what would be racist FI you were to say that.....
Elon's argument sucked there because Cuban's talking about business strategy and Musk brings it to sports. Obviously the taller more athletic person is preferable for sports, but in a business/ academic world where acumen can come from anyone, favoring a specific race is racist.
Plus dude grew up in apartheid South Africa and his dad ran an emerald mine. Musk being a 'man of the people' spouting 'common sense' is insane.
It is the best example.
Why do you think hiring a subpar firefighter, cop, surgeon, or pilot for the sake of diversity would be okay, yet a basketball game is off-limits? No one's life is at risk if they mandate wnba players to play along with the NBA players. But, there are extreme risks when hiring mediocre employees that dictate how our society functions.
The bottom line, just like sports a business is ran like a team and if you want the best results for everyone then they should hire the most qualified regardless of race, age, or who they want to sleep with.
Unfortunately the premise" the best person for the job vs diversity" is false. Hiring solely for diversity is a losing argument I agree. The sad reality is humans often can be very tribal, to the the detriment of those not of the tribe. Inclusion by mandate is not inclusion. Leadership based on lineage and legacy will fail eventually, because new, possibly better ideas, more efficient practices will be missed or overlooked. History has shown this over and over.In world war 2 the invasion of Normandy, it was a farmer who help to defeat the hedgerows so the allies could liberate Europe. Not a military historian, not a war college educated graduate. A farmer, a farmer with a more diverse background than his peers. There's nothing fair about being elite. Jerry is correct to say "are you funny? ( elite ) than I'm interested.
These guys are towing the line and saying "diversity is great of course", then start talking with their actual rational opinions.
Whats funny about DEI people is from what side of their mouth say to see color and culture everywhere but then say every role in society needs to mirror the pie chart of society as if cultures don't have preferences and may value certain professions over others.
I'm just sayin, it's a complicated topic. And I probably shouldn't have brought it up because I don't watch We Might Be Drunk clips for ultra nuanced takes on the issues of the day.
But I'm taking Elon's opinions with a saltmine. That guys sucks.
You missed the entire point. We should hire and promote people based on merit and accomplishment, and NOT based on race (a.k.a. racism) in any industry. If patterns emerge, oh well. That's how meritocracy works.
The clip is 9 fucking years old. What are we doing?
Is the truth how many black comedians are in he’s show??
"liberals want you to not see color" is a pretty dumb way to state the problem.
diversity is important but not at the expense of quality
Who cares what the most unfunny comedian of the past 30+ years has to say about anything… 🙄
Seinfeld was annoying back then, and he’s annoying now. Wish he would just go away….
"Wokeness is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives mean people a shield to be mean and cruel, armored in false virtue." - Elon
Woke sounds like a Gen Z term because I haven’t really heard many millennials use that term and I’m a millennial
DEI CAME FROM DEMOCRATS DON'T FORGET IT
Ik this is a comedy podcast and its all mostly jokes but I just wanted to highlight that being outspokenly against DEI is kind of an ignorant position to take. Theres like centuries of systemic racism and sexism stacked against minorities, they don't have equal opportunities to succeed. We have to have things like it because otherwise we could continue to just never have diverse voices and talent.
This is such a stupid conversation. So let me get this straight. Adversity is good, but if you see a lack thereof you cannot say anything about it? Let's just pretend it's not happening and eventually it will go away?
I don't know how you people think problems are solved. But I can tell you that ignoring them doesn't usually work.
Jerry could have said, gee I never thought about it but let me think about it and see if you have a point.
How boring
Have you guys had Jim Breuer on?
Because he's not really funny anymore after he went full on MAGA nut. He's too preoccupied with making politics his identity anymore.
Screw that Qanon MAGA conspiracy theorist.
Jim Breuer is a big bag of douche
@@opiebluwsit9751 are we talking about politics, or comedy?
What a tiny portion of the interview regarded that topic and the guys are on about it for such a long time... Depressing
merit
Agree w Jerry but HE"S NOT FUNNY.
Why can't you just say "yeah their perspective would be interesting.". Why do you have to get all mad. It's an indictment on your inner feelings.
Very odd question to ask Seinfeld considering minorities did not care nor watched his show because they could not relate. It’s a white guy’s show with white guy humor and experiences. Sorry but most minorities just don’t relate to that white dry humor. Culture and social upbringing’s determine humor. Very strange topic.
when you are a jew in hollywood 🤷♂
A lot of people actually are republicans but they don’t want to admit it, it’s just common sense
Diversity of what skin color or thought?
Funny doesn’t have a race or pronoun.