Did Plate Tectonics Cause the Global Flood? | The Creation Podcast: Episode 17
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- Can plate tectonics explain how the Flood happened? How does subduction work? And do plate tectonics fit the biblical account of the Flood?
Host Ivana Semidey and ICR Research Scientist and Geologist Dr. Tim Clarey discuss how plate tectonics provides a scientific explanation for the mechanism at work during the Global Flood in Episode 17 of The Creation Podcast.
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The Hebrew Bible is historical fiction, yhwh is a fictional character.
I studied geology in college and it never really made sense and it wasn't very interesting until I learned the connection between what we can observe and the flood in Genesis. Rock on!
Thanks for the comment, Cousin Bryan. And nice pun. ;-)
When we cannot pass college course anyway, we..................
Look into hydroplate theory.
I was an Earth Science major in college, and took every Geology class offered. Of course I followed the secular “gradualism “ teaching, but never dismissed the Biblical story of the Great Flood. Because of my Eschatological studies I now totally embrace, and espouse, the Genesis account of the Great Flood, and how rapid movement of the Crustal Plates were a great part of the Flood. I would add that the huge amount of Steam (condensing into snow) from the volcanic cracking of the Oceans floor created The Ice Age.
Volcanic cracking? The ice age? Crustal plates? All faithbased unbiblical nonsense.
And of course Earth science taught you that we live on a globe spinning through outer space as well, not so according to Genesis 1 verses 1 through 10 go ahead and look those up and think about it! We live on the Dryland separated from the waters, not a globe
Of course some people know science, evidence and can observe.
All I know is God is real... know, not believe.
Where did you go to school?
I've always been a fan of ICR and have been with them almost since the beginning. I always remember reading Acts & Facts when in bible college and being amazed with the evidence presented for the flood. Though I've never doubted the Bible's account it was great to know there was evidence to back it up. I support ICR and I've really enjoyed these recent podcasts. It has been great to hear from the scientists that are part of the organization. They are so intelligent and definitely know their stuff. I know this has been a long comment, but thank you! Keep these coming!
I wish to thank you for sharing this awesome Podcast 17 with me .
Is it possible, also, that the mountains pre-flood were not 10s of thousands of feet high so it wouldn't take as much water to cover the highest mountain?
Yes the preflood mountains were probably not tens of thousands of feet high. Although, there was still a massive amount of water on the earth to cover absolutely everything. The mountains we see today were likely formed after the flood. This is backed up because we see marine fossils on the highest mountains where sea creatures would never be- a global flood creation view would solve this easily.
The Crystal Plates slamming into one another helped create the tall mountain ranges we see today.
If you had learned to do simple maths, and do simple research, you would realize that there is no scenario where there could ever be enough water to cover all of Earth's land
Start by imagining an earth where all the landmass was levelled off to even height. The land would be 2700 ft above sea level. Now imagine all the ice melting, now imagine ever bit of underground water coming up above ground. The water in the oceans will still not be even remotely approaching the height of the land
Where were you going to get all that water????
Stop with the "creation science", it isn't science, and its an embarrassment to those who actually do believe in God, and Christs message to us.
If you were capable of doing the simplest research, and then some maths, you would realize that even if all the continents on earth were levelled off to the same altitude, all the ice melted, and all the underground water came one top, the sealevel would not reach the top of the land. That altitude would be 2700 ft.. Ice melting, and underground water would raise the SL a few hundred feet
Btw, nothing substantial has changed in geology since 2350 bc
That's exciting to learn that subduction occured rapidly during the flood. That makes much more sense than the slowly over millions of years as an explanation for mountain building and folding mud layers and metamorphism.
Glad you brought your program back. I also pick it up on I-Tunes. Thank you
Thanks guys!! Keep the content coming!
What about the vapor canopy as being a source of the rain or something? I would have liked to have heard him say something about this.
BTW, It would have been clouds, not vapor. The state change from vapor to liquid is exothermic and would have released way too much heat.
@@skepticalfaith5201 even more so in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, the water would be very cold - possibly even ice. This endothermic reaction would have turned a globally tropical planet into the ice age we have not really recovered from.
i wish she had asked what started the plates to moving. It seems like there must have been a tipping point and something caused the crust to break and start subducting at one location and start rising at another point to create new crust.
I've been reading about Grand Solar Minimum s and their effect on the World as a whole. Increase in earthquakes is just one.
hydroplate theory, check it out.
You need to go back and see what the scriptures tell us 10And after seven days the floodwaters came upon the earth. 11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12And the rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights. the fountains of the deep are the key it is fairly well known that there were major upheavals in the earths crust , and the rains would most likely be water that was blasted our from the fountains of the deep . At that stage the plates would have started moving .
It doesn’t answer the question - if anything makes it worse - but the continental divide didn’t start until well over a thousand years AFTER the flood. Thus the bible says Eber named his son Peleg “because in his day the world was divided.” Also, the Himalayas and Rockies would not have been formed until after the flood
God's decree (based on the moral decline of humanity) seems to have been the cause. Genesis 6:5 says, "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
I'm reading Carved in Stone right now. Very good read. But I have a question that I'm confused about. It says on page 244 that the Catskill Delta and Queenston Delta were deposited during the Tippecanoe and Kaskaskia Megasequence as a result of the crust being drawn down. This rather deep deposit is located on the east coast of the U.S. My question is was there subduction on the east coast as well as the west coast? I thought only the west coast had the subduction since the plate was floating away from the Atlantic continental ridge. Is there a book that describes the subduction process of North America in particular. I'm trying to visualize this. Very good book highly recommend it.
Carved in Stone is on my shelf of books to read, along with many others from ICR. I haven’t decided which of the big ones to read first. I’m currently reading Jerry Bergman’s book, Evolution’s Blunders, Frauds, and Forgeries, as well as Jake Hebert’s The Ice Age and the Flood. Soon, I will start one of the thick ones. Maybe Carved in Stone will be first. :)
@@deannesanv8931 Carved in Stone is a great book to read. I'm a geologist and worked as such until I retired. This book reorders all of the nonsense in the uniformitarian schools. I'm trying to understand a little bit better how the tectonics worked during the flood and how they were responsible for the deposits particularly on the east coast. Good luck with your research. There is so much good information out there now.
I bought Carved in Stone and the Ice Age book, and especially liked the maps explaining the deposits of the megasequences. At certain layers, vegetation was converted to oil or coal. Thanks to the oil companies and deep core samples, ICR scientists used the data to explain how rock layers formed during the global flood, followed by a long ice age that enabled the now separated continents to be repopulated
Well explained, Dr. Clarey. You wet my appetite to read your & Dr. Johnson's CRSQ article from issue 57/4 "God Floods Earth, yet Preserves
Ark-Borne Humans and Animals: Exegetical and Geological Notes on Genesis Chapter 7". Love this stuff and how the creationist view has matured in this area over time. Crazy manipulations have to be done to models in the deep time camp, uniformitarianism camps but this is turning into a logical and realistic model more with every year's research and review. Love the new ICR logo and how it relates to the expanding effort to make a creationist biology model, think it's about time, we need more of that in all aspects of God's creation from the scientific perspective as well as the spiritual. But my first love is always going to be with astronomy and geology. Gorgeous, massive, intriguing astronomy - so easy to fall in love with the images of our 'great telescope' age. But I'm a man of the land at heart and I get excited by rocks - really anything with 'geo' involved! - so eat this stuff up. Thanks Doctor, thanks interviewer...keep them coming!
I saw another study with thermal imaging showing 200 miles or so of a subduction plate that is still much colder than than the surrounding molten rock, proving that the plate went under fast and recently.
We need a good and trustworthy video showing the crust and mantle shifts. A visual aid along with audible description is very helpful.
I like hydroplate theory.
Thank you! 100x more plausible than rapid plate tectonics.
Are you open to suggestions from someone who has watched many creation science videos? Two simple ones. First, I recommend fading the introductory music sooner. As much as I like it, it's a bit distracting and was obtrusive to the speakers. Second, I strongly recommend mixing in some graphics and very short videos (without sound). These would help illustrate the points being made.
We're always open to suggestions. Thanks for watching!
Agreed! Visualization of what he’s talking about would help a lot with understanding the explanation
Personally I believe in a combination of Dr Walter Brown’s Hydroplate Theory and Dr John Baumgardner’s CPT theory. The Hydroplate theory sure explains the first 40 days of relentless rain and the kick starting of CPT.
Thanks for this video and God bless your ministry.
I always "like" your videos before watching, because I know it will be great! ... Question, Scientists now say Mars (a planet without water) once had a global flood, no?
Great Video ! I've read that coal deposits from all over the world have very similar plant fossils, including what we would call tropical plants. This includes all the way from the polar arctic regions to the equator. That seems to indicate that had to have been similar weather patterns over the whole earth at the time of the flood. I've heard it considered that for that to have happened, the earth would have had to have it's rotational axis vertical instead of shifted it's current 15° angle. Is it possible that the rapid plate tectonics shifted the center of gravity on the earth enough to shift the axis of rotation?
A theory I heard is that the plants floated in a massive group, and the bark would flake off as they rubbed against each other sinking down to become the coal layers. At least for the eastern US and Europe. This log matte would travel over this whole area causing a coal layer then move away causing a mud layer, then move in again for more coal, many times. Which explains why there are many layers of coal and mud on top of each other.
So if that's true it's hard to say what the climate was like in any region, but there definitely would have been way more plants than there are today.
The Earth was covered by a cloud (not vapor) canopy that created a giant greenhouse. (“the waters above the expanse.”) That spread the heat equally across the world, so there was the same vegetation in Antarctica and Greenland as the rest of the world. So yes the coal would have the same type fossils everywhere.
My interest in CPT is waining on account of two things 1)Neglecting the Biblical picture of the preflood world world we should considered 2)The unswer to the question, where did the water come from what was the source of its power
where to find models /animation of such explanations ?
What about Walt Brown's Hydroplate theory?
Yes! Much better theory. Plate tectonics has no explanation for mid Atlantic ridge, no reason why we don't see consistent flows across all of the ocean floors, formation of mountains, Maria on the moon, comets, etc. Plate tectonics is impossible from a mechanics of materials standpoint, and rapid plate tectonics is even more impossible.
I disagree on one point. The Antedeluvian world had more land mass and far less ocean. Personally I suspect a great amount of water was added to the oceans from the fountains beneath .....as well as from the waters above.
Combined with what he said about the younger, more bouyant ocean crust....there we see how the continents were inundated.
Fountains beneath 😂
@@rodrogers6895yes, "fountains of the great deep" there's still water leaking into the oceans from the bottom of mid oceanic trenches. Educate yourself, they are called "hydrothermal vents".
What a great show! Today’s answered some long standing questions I had (such as the extent of subduction) and Yvana is such a gentle soul that she makes the program that much more enjoyable to watch. Thank you ICR.
Thanks so much for this excellent pod cast
Helpful and good information... Thank you. May these researchers who believe in God's Scriptures be supported and funded.
There was no 'research' here - just a desperate attempt to make a myth seem like it could have happened - spoiler: it didn't.
That reminds me of the myth of "my heart, liver, kidneys, lung, bone structures, digestive system, the brain i'm right now thinking with is a product of random unguided, undirected mutation of stardust over millions of years" myth and the desperate attempt to make that comical story seem like it could have really happened. Thanks for the reminder. @@StudentDad-mc3pu
@StudentDad-mc3pu you said:
"There was no 'research' here - just a desperate attempt to make a myth seem like it could have happened - spoiler: it didn't."
@StudentDad-mc3pu very nice comment! I am amazed at how, using just one comment, you were able to scientifically counter everything that was said in this video. All of the research you must have done to accomplish that is just amazing.. wow! Nice job!
....umm wait a minute.... my bad. I seem to be mistaken you didn't do any of that did you. I don't know how I could have thought you did. I must be tired. Oh well.
Anyways, God bless and have a great day!
Great explanation
How do you differentiate between pre flood n post flood sedimentaries??
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Great video!
Wonderful explanation!
But what caused the plates to move? Some say a comet passing by caused the earth’s rotation to slow down and the crust to scrunch in (water bursting out from the deeps and volcanoes), then when it sped up again the plates broke up and spread out.
The cause of plate tectonics is likely to be rotation and impactors. There is ancient history about the sun setting in the opposite direction, and that there was a time before our present moon, and of a smaller original moon which was moved into a lower orbit and shredded and fell to the earth as a string of impactors. That's apparently the historical legends. I have located a series of impacts lined up when adjusted for rotation and orbit over time, which is likely the last flip, which lines up with the geographical north pole movements recorded in alignments of archeological sites over time. If however the earth was tilted at the time, a smaller moon is possible as an original flip, but from my estimates, the mantle anomaly is about the same size and correct distribution for a de-orbiting shredded impactor.
There is growing scientific evidence of a catastrophe cycle, that involves impactors, electro magnetic and stella interactions inducing geological and volcanic interactions.
Unfortunately there has been some deliberate misinformation in the past, so it's not obvious the schedule of what will happen and there are multiple different opinions.
There are a number of overlapping minor event cycles. The main cycle clusters events, similar to those in revelations, and we are due for the next cycle. There is a solar earth scorching event in the cycle. The data seems to be misinterpreted, and the actual event looks to be around 1000 years after the next cluster. The ice core data also appears misinterpreted, and I have been looking at realignment.
It's hard to recommend channels, due to the confusion from the past misinformation, and current efforts.
Magnetic Reversal News, and their companion site the Oppenheimer Ranch Project, have scientists looking at some of this. Though, I do not share their conclusions.
I don't recommend Space Weather News, but they currently are trying to summarise the science of what is happening.
The channel See the Pattern, examines the science to see which matches the evidence, to determine what happened. What happened in the west coast of South America, is rather shocking, and I think I have a historical reference to it from another distant culture, the signature sound was so great.
There is a channel called adapt 2030.
The scientist Doug Voght is a known scientist. Some of his theories are exotic, and his religious views are not compatible with Christianity, I know the source. However, he is a bit of an insider, and has information on government and military efforts concerning this, and has some information on CIA efforts. I don't recommend the channel, I am still assessing his information, but do not share his conclusion. He is a likeable person, but still be careful in assessing things.
There might be an channel that does things right and has the correct conclusion, but I have not found it yet. If anybody has a correct source, please reply. The official narrative is fatally flawed. Any narrative that says that flips are not practical without destroying the Earth, is flawed, and on a level of cognitive dissonance, of flat earth belief.
9:39. If you push up part of a volume anothet part has to go down. Only in leveling between land and sea, is going cause the sea to cover the land and mountains.
Scripture also says that there were fountains of the deep. Geyers? Aquifers opened up? And ringwoodite appears to be trapping water that gets pushed under at the subduction zones.
The tectonic plates will not come to a complete stop because of the movement of molten rocks in the mantle are constantly moving under the crust and are constantly finding a weak spot to push their way out as volcanoes in parts of the planet call the ring of fire around the Pacific.
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Que la Gracia y la Sabiduría siga colmando sus vidas.
Part of the answer for the water of the flood and where it went was the physics of heat. As the Oceans heated, the water expands. Yes, from a point below 0C to to5C it does copress, but if you heat the water to 15 to 20C there would be some expansion. The water cooling after day 150, it would become more dense, taking less volume. Does not anwer the full question, but does a part of the question.
Thank you for sharing!
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Awesome description of the event
Has anyone heard a good explanation how we got such diverse races out of eight people in such short time?
Dr. Tomkins has done some work in that area. We don't have a video on it at the moment, but there are articles at icr.org.
The Bible claims that people lived much longer (
Agreed!
The most simple and obvious evidence for a young Earth I can think of-
The Earth's magnetic poles shifted multiple times in the past.
The Atlantic ocean floor was made when the continents split.
As lava cools and turns to rock, the particles inside that are affected by magnets will align in line with the Earth's magnetic field, allowing us to know which way magnetic north was.
The Atlantic floor has bands where the alignment was messy throughout, suggesting that portion was made while the poles were in the process of shifting. (1000 years in the old Earth model, two weeks in the young Earth model)
The remaining portion of the Atlantic floor should be uniform in showing which side the poles were on in the old Earth model, but that is not the case. Anywhere a sample is drilled in the Atlantic floor, the majority will point one direction, but there will always be many pockets pointing the opposite direction. The entire floor formed quickly enough, and there was a short enough time period between pole shifts, that the sea floor was not fully cooled by the next pole shift.
“Most simple and obvious”?
Nowhere in our natural world is polarity observed. Therefore it is both ridiculous and incorrect to claim that the earth has poles. Polar magnetism is strictly a manufactured force and manufactured spherical magnets do not have polar opposite ends.
“Volcanoes” are slag heaps/spoil tips. They are manmade. There is no such thing as “magma”. It is all a result of the mining process.
Earth takes shape like clay under a seal. A circle like a compass. A compass 🧭always points north, the outside ends stretched. The center is south. In the north the compass points towards the closest end of earth. In the south s compass goes berserk because the north surrounds equally all around.
The foundation of the Earth is the tectonic plates in Genesis chapter 11 we see God doing 2 things separating the people in their language & speech and then the strangest thing we see later on in the same chapter is the earth was dividing meeting that God took the dry ground and separated it. There are many saying it’s gonna happen again when it does the whole world is gonna know.
The labels beg the question with a presupposition. There is no evidence at all that a biblical "global flood" ever happened, and plenty that it did not. My closest bit of evidence is Ashfall Fossil Beds State Historical Park in northeast Nebraska. Fossil remains from 12 million years ago show no signs of ever having been disturbed by a great flood. If the world is 6000 years old, and a giant flood happened even more recently than that, one would expect to find some mention of this event in the records left by one of the several literate societies in existence on earth within the last few millennia. Not a peep! Answer: there was no global flood caused by plate tectonics or anything else.
The key word there is a staged as impressed down on the mantle
Have you heard, or considered the 'growing earth' theory? I don't know that much about it but stumbled across it recently, because of someone who questions many of the modern 'science' narratives, like climate change, virology, etc. That the earth is expanding like a balloon, and that is why the continents match up, that the water from the flood came from within. I'm not exactly sure on the mechanism, haven't researched that much of it yet.
Would a giant asteroid hitting the ocean start the subduction process? It would definitely create an ocean size plume of steam
The earth and all creation is experiencing the birth pangs. Our Lord will return soon. Praise the Father for His grace, giving time for those lost to come to know salvation through the price paid on the cross by His son, Jesus Christ, whose name is above all names, King of kings, blessed redeemer, beautiful savior, glorious Lord, The Living Word!
Bless you fam 🫀
My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together
in the depths of the earth.
Your eyes saw my unformed body;
just a theory of mine, couldn't the oil have been deposited due to the flood if the waters were pressurized back into the earth from the winds God created over the waters?
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith:
1 Timothy 1:4
He is talking about the old testament covenant commandment not the new testament covenant commandment.
The truth shall set you free but the truth is inconvenient & the lies are comfortable.
Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Sun Star's magnetic equator not you or Co2 is the cause of these the climate change end times Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for.
5 loaves crossings complete & 2 fish crossings to go until perigee with the galactic bulge. 12 baskets 12,000 years between 1,000 year crossings.
Galactic Milankovitch cycles Precession being Earth's orbits cycling between our Star's two energies of it's Oort cloud magnetosphere. Obliquity being the precession of our Sun between our galaxies fermie cell energies 60,000 years full cycle. Eccentricity 240,000 year rotation of the galactic bulge 24 elders. Antikythera device, Gobekli tepe stones sedimentary layers are crying out.
Not a vaccine as it takes 10 years minimum to develop & test a vaccine If & only IF you can first isolate the virus. How many variants? Not isolated.
Covid like CO2 is an either or false dichotomy & there are no false dichotomies in science. "All I know is I know nothing." Einstein.
Covid being the Baby Boomers who were born en mass 78 years ago are starting to die en mass from the usual suspects of seasonal flu which leads to pneumonia & old age plus a lot of propaganda and no buying or selling coercion.
The covid quackzine is the Nazi final solution, Jewish Passover, Trump's Operation Warp speed to depopulate the planet before the Great Year precession of the sun's shadow equinoxes as measured by the Pharaohs/Pharisees obelisks. Eclipsing the nucleus of our Star's Oort cloud magnetosphere for the next millennium RESETS the planet as in the days of Noah.
Grade 5 science could debunk both CO2 caused climate change & the covid quackzine. "Those who profess to be wise will be made to look like fools." God will not be mocked.
No given heed to fables is good advice, and the flood is absolute a fable.
For starters, if you read the first chapter of the book you claim to know Genesis, you'll see that Earth is not a globe, therefore there have never has been a global flood, everybody pretends that a globe is what we live on and that they know all about the Bible, but they completely deny verses 1 through 10 of Genesis chapter 1 is the Dryland separated from the waters below we live in an envelope of air, not a globe spinning through something called outer space!
Creation science has to be one of the greatest oxymorons ever.
Did you know science was originated by Christians. Evolution is a modern idea after "science" began. But it originated when the world all believed in gods of some kind, and the scientists were trying to learn from what they believed an intelligent creator had made. So, not an oxymoron.
In a few weeks Dr Ron Neller (fluvial geology) will be visiting our area, Central Oz. We'll before he became a believer his research lead to him believing that the flood in Genesis was the best explanation for our geology and topography.
When you leave God out of the equation, every last theory you come up with goes out the window. So, what do they do, they double down. How sad that have been left out from the truth.
Tldr; just say 'evidence' a bunch of times and emphasize that it's clear as and that will suffice.
There will always be a possible scientific explanation even if such bible events are proven true.
There is actually nothing in the Bible that should indicate young earth. All of that is created by fools with poor motives. When these dishonest people pull out the "Creation science" it becomes most hilarious. Think about the hilarious "science" in a mountain covering flood that happens just 4300 years ago, and left just 8 people on earth, many of them related. The comedy here is great. The stark proofs that it didn't happen are all around us
It takes a very inferior IQ, folks. The funny thing is, Genesis itself indicates what the word "day" means in Genesis. But all these clowns who need to take an ancient creation legend literally, will not literally believe that Bible passage.
So the assignment for these yokels will be: Where is the passage in Genesis which indicates what "day" actually meant
My thoughts on this are as follows.. I do believe that the earth is a flat stationary plane.
I don’t believe that the flood was caused by plate tectonics.
I believe the antediluvian world could be described as Pangea, one solid body. The Pangea plate was still intact after the water receded until the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, when GOD confused their tongues and separated the Narions.
This would explain the similarity of monolithic sites around the world as well as explain how people were able to occupy lands with such distance and obstacles that separated them. Not migration across a Bering Land Bridge…
Basically GOD broke up Pangea, with individual sections containing Nations of people who were given their own distinct language. But before that time, the people were connected and shared construction and architectural techniques and technology as well as similar markings.
Since your 'ideas' are proved wrong in the first line, we are going to move on.
Any subterranean water would be superheated and that would be a serious problem ! But there was no so called fountains !
Super critical water indeed. Look up Hydroplate Theory videos by Bryan Nickel and it will provide a much better Theory that includes the water and all of the effects it had.
Just a 1\3rd of a cup of pepper from heaven, corrupted the salt of the earth.
Creationists want to accommodate Science to fit into your beliefs.
You don't think naturalist went out into the world with PRESSUPOSITIONS and then discovered exactly what they wanted?
Macro evolution is presuppositional and interprets everything according to that paradigm even though the origin of the universe and of life cannot happen by materialistic means. The fossils do not support macroevolution. Natural selection can only act on an already existing genome and epigenetic signals. Mutations are destructive. The 2nd law of the thermodynamics crushes evolution. Never has there been a greater hoax in science so called. It is oversimplification and wild extrapolation based on the actual data and its basis is metaphysics not science. Ironically, materialism denies the existence of metaphysics while being in its debt.
I don't think the plates will come to a complete stop before Jesus' return because He spoke of earthquakes in the last days. It also appears that we're very near to the Great Tribulation just before His return. But perhaps they'll stop during His millennial (1,000 year) reign.
Wait till he finds out there is no subduction. Mechanical engineering mathematical formulas show the resistance of the mantle and core to the “plate subduction” is far greater than what the “plate” can produce.
We can see areas of subduction and measure them.
Agreed. As an engineer I think Hydroplate Theory is a far better explanation. The "subduction" we see, isn't an ongoing process. When the plates slid and sank, they came to a stop when they crashed into the submerged pacific plate. This pushed up the ring of fire mountains and also pushed down the Pacific ocean plate, which appears as what we see today. But billions of years of ongoing subduction is completely impossible for the crust, the mantle, and based on the sea floor evidence. Watch Brian Nickel's videos if you want a good engineering explanation of hydraulic forces, super critical fluids, and what happens when you release the pressure. No wonder the moon was bombarded on the near side, when it's highly unlikely for meteors to pass earth's gravity well and strike the near side.
@@DorianLust , It would also explain many other things about the moon. Like why so many of the moons rocks that we brought back in the 60’s had the same identifiers as earth rocks.
Micro Novas
The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is:
Sunrise to sunset
Sunset to next sunset
Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
Was the earth hit by something that caused it to break into plates?
No, it just happens. Although the earth WAS hit by at least one large object in its history.
Hydroplate Theory has many good answers. But I think it's possible an impact could have started it. Fatigue in the material due to tidal forces of the water under the crust is usually what is assumed, but who knows.
***do not try to justify your interpretation of the bible using distorted scientific facts that only people ignorant of science would believe. The flood was not global, many floods happened and still happens but the biblical one may happened but in the Earth known at that time and as a flat not a globe.***
"Many people do not believe in the flood, even many Christians"
But Christ did believe in it.
So, how can they call themselves Christians when they're really in opposition to Christ?
The Bible says that the earth and plates moved very rapidly? Where is this scripture? 🤥
10And after seven days the floodwaters came upon the earth. 11In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12And the rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights. Genesis 7
Nope it did not.
The great flood was created excactly as the word of God tells us.
The vaults from heaven opened, and the underwaterfountains, that takes care of the high and low tide, burst open.
That's how the flood was possible.
Only by the hand of God.
With a prommis from God, that it will never happen again.
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I believe the Tectonic plates were created by GOD during the Great Flood to make his new earth. His original earth was perfect so no tectonic plates needed to exist.
Hydroplate Theory is what you're looking for. It describes what God created, and how He separated the waters above and below a solid egg shell like crust. The flood broke that shell and removed the land from the edges of cracked continents until they were individual pieces instead of a single surface. It also explains the physical events that happened during each period of the flood that the bible describes. Videos are on Bryan Nickel's channel.
So one would think the disappearance of the great ice sheets played some roll in the flood as well? Because we are told the end of the last ice age started 14,000 years ago
It certainly would have seemed like a cataclysmic event to cultures near any large masses of water or land near sea level - as these would have disappeared and never resurfaced. But this flooding was not all at once and did not cover higher ground, such as my house, even.
LOL!
Lol, I like you talk like the Church has always been a big believer of plate tectonics.
it's not a globe it's a flat plain with turned up edges
How do you research creation?
It can't be done.
The Hebrew Bible is historical fiction, yhwh is a fictional character.
No, God caused it. His method of doing it might uave been plate tectonics, but God was the cause.
The interviewer is not so great
He has lots to say. Shè lets him talk.
Perhaps you should look into the Biblical Cosmology and rely on what Scripture has to say about this subject as we can clearly see now our higher learning institutions have been corrupted.
No. Our Lord and savior did.
Read the Bible. It’s the truth
Really God caused the global flood
You could build a lot of boats in 150 days. Or rafts. Lord imagine the rotting corpses. I also wonder about how cold the upper atmosphere is. Think Himalayan mountains... How would Noah and family survive the freezing temps and the elevation lack of oxygen? Would the flood have pushed oxygen levels higher at those extreme elevations?
The earth was not like it is now , the himalayas and other mountain ranges did not exist as we know them now that is factored out as they often find marine fossils on Everest for instance .
Cataclysms happen due to increased electromagnetic gravitational every from eclipsing hthe nucleus of our Star Sun's Oort cloud magnetosphere for a 1,000 years. God will provide more EM energy means more growth. Dinosaurs.
The truth shall set you free but the truth is inconvenient & the lies are comfortable.
Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Sun Star's magnetic equator not you or Co2 is the cause of these the climate change end times Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for.
5 loaves crossings complete & 2 fish crossings to go until perigee with the galactic bulge. 12 baskets 12,000 years between 1,000 year crossings.
Galactic Milankovitch cycles Precession being Earth's orbits cycling between our Star's two energies of it's Oort cloud magnetosphere. Obliquity being the precession of our Sun between our galaxies fermie cell energies 60,000 years full cycle. Eccentricity 240,000 year rotation of the galactic bulge 24 elders. Antikythera device, Gobekli tepe stones sedimentary layers are crying out.
Not a vaccine as it takes 10 years minimum to develop & test a vaccine If & only IF you can first isolate the virus. How many variants? Not isolated.
Covid like CO2 is an either or false dichotomy & there are no false dichotomies in science. "All I know is I know nothing." Einstein.
Covid being the Baby Boomers who were born en mass 78 years ago are starting to die en mass from the usual suspects of seasonal flu which leads to pneumonia & old age plus a lot of propaganda and no buying or selling coercion.
The covid quackzine is the Nazi final solution, Jewish Passover, Trump's Operation Warp speed to depopulate the planet before the Great Year precession of the sun's shadow equinoxes as measured by the Pharaohs/Pharisees obelisks. Eclipsing the nucleus of our Star's Oort cloud magnetosphere for the next millennium RESETS the planet as in the days of Noah.
Grade 5 science could debunk both CO2 caused climate change & the covid quackzine. "Those who profess to be wise will be made to look like fools." God will not be mocked.
The animals couldn't all fit on the ark. Noah myth is fictional story.
If you are a Christian and believe what Jesus had to say about Noah and the flood, there is a problem. If you are not a Christian, your stand is understandable and makes sense. There is an interesting book on Noah's Ark found on Amazon with high ratings. It's called: Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study Author: John Woodmorappe. There is also much on ICR that addresses the number of animals on the Ark.
Not all the animals were taken only a pair of each kind so maybe 14000 or up to 16000 is all that were on the ark
Next episode: did 5G cause the Global Covid?
Not one word of God so
The Great WORLD-WIDE FLOOD was CREATED BY CREATOR ALMIGHTY GOD.