King of Fighters is easier than you think! Use these Techniques to make things even easier!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- There is a long held belief that the King of Fighters games are too hard, and its time to dispel that. Clickbaiting youtubers have done their damage and now its time for you to learn that its kinda easy, and in fact there is things you can do to make combos/reversals/anything even easier than they already are!
0:00 - Button Hold Trick (WATCH ALL THIS)
7:11 - Smartly using inputs
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Ok time to dispel the myth of KoF being "too hard". That was basically invented by a bunch of clickbaiters overblowing kof 13 trials which were intended to be challenges, and not actual in-game practical combos you'd wanna use. KoF isn't that bad, and thanks to the magic of the BUTTON HOLD TRICK you can make things even easier than they are! So lets go over some examples on what this is about and help show that KoF isn't that scary of a game! Spare a like if you could! More likes = more people see the video, and I feel like people really need to see a video like this to understand KoF isn't that hard at all
I’m still confused I’ve got a PlayStation controller so I would hold the buttons and move the analog stick in the direction for the combo but like how do you tell which frame to do it on and how do you actually count the frames
@@jackratscratpack9323 The first mistake is using the analog stick. It's extremely difficult to move an analog stick with the sort of precision and speed you'd need, which is why most pad players use d-pad.
Second, you don't hold the button then do your motion. You just do motions like normal, and instead of tapping the button to get a special to come out, you press and hold the button until it comes out instead. When you do this the game will buffer the special input for a short time so you don't have to time links or juggles involving specials/supers with just-frame accuracy.
Third, nobody counts frames in a match. That's impossible. You just develop a feeling for the timing through practice.
@@AirLancer ok thanks much appreciated
Not sure in XV (PC player here) but in previous version this works too with input directions which was specially useful with grabbers. Like this:
Pick Shermie. Do Forward - Forward (running) - Half Circle Forward and hold Forward until you are in range and then press Punch. The grab command would activate.
Man, thank you so much for these tips and tricks, rooflemonger.
I've been fan of KOF since KOF 2000 but I'm still suck at doing combos for some characters. They're hard to be done since the timing is so tight and fast while trying to pull the full inputs which always makes me frustrated.
I even thought that SNK is insane by giving inhumane inputs that almost everyone couldn't do lol. I didn't know about these tricks before and I get it now the reason why FG influencers could pull crazy combos with tight and fast timing easily... 😁
A misconception is that you need to master Hard tech or hard combos to really enjoy the game that’s not true for any genre of game
BTW I can go in on dumb thumbnails like shown in the video because my hands are 100% clean, I never made no kof 13 trial panic clickbait videos, thank you very much 👼 Besides I just mash I don't know how to combo
This might have persuaded me to get the game. My timing is awful when it comes to move inputs, and I had heard that KoF timing was generally quite hard. Thanks for sharing this!
That's the thing. KoF timing especially with this kinda tricks is overwhelmingly generous. Just there's been a aura of public perception made that does not actually match whats in the games.
Same here! I never got into the previous KOFs because I was breaking my fingers trying to cancel normals into qcf, hcb supers (I play on a mixbox), I never knew about this!
From inputs to winputs.
the timing is important if you turtle in KOF. if you rush down, then you need to learn shortcut movements, or learn to read your opponent and predict what they might try to do. the best thing to learn is hit confirmed to make them scared to run in on you. just work on your reaction time, blocking, dodging and combo muscle memory. KOF is not difficult once you learn the defense mechanism. if you dont have decent defense and prediction in kof, then you will get eaten alive against someone like me that rushes down and apply super saiyan pressure to catfish a combo. 🤣 it gets fun. KOF is so lit. i recommend trying Robert, King, and Benjimaru. it is a good balance for new beginners. dont be afraid to spend time in the lab to learn good strategy. KOF is such a blast, winning or losing
Get better at Fortnite NOOB lol L+Ratio
A message for SNK:
Without rooflemonger's early access + early lifting of embargo I likely would not have purchased this game. I haven't played one since KOF'98. It has appeared to be a daunting game but these breakdowns make it seem far more accessible then it's reputation.
I will forward this along :)
Because the reputation of recent KOFs as some kind of wildly difficult game is propagated by people who've never played the damn games.
@@AirLancer facts
@@AirLancer aka street fighter players
I'm not subscribed to every KoF15 early creator, but I have to say Roofle that you've done the absolute most with the time you've been given. Props and much respect to you for putting in the work to get so much of information out about King of Fighters and showing it a lot of respect.
Its an absolute titan of a franchise and I feel like it doesn't get the respect from the greater FGC it fully deserves, so I am going above and beyond to help people know whats up.
@@rooflemonger Let's hope having free reign with both SF and MK being in post mortem stage for the next couple years lets KoF show off it's quality.
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This helps a lot. I’ve been somewhat terrified to even try KoF because of those combo trials. Of course there’s a lot to learn but this makes the whole game a lot less daunting.
Keep these tutorials coming! Love the content and I absolutely love the tutorials! The King of Fighters is such an underrated series and needs more players!
People tend to forget that combos mean nothing if u die in neutral
So my point is dont let match unpractical trail combos disuade u from trying kof
@@rdxgamer1772 yeah, instead let losing in neutral be the reason you stop.
Every game has a vastly different neutral game, and frankly everyone ain't got the patience for it.
@@TranceCore3 then practice? Lmao idk what you want me to tell u there buddy
Bold of u to assume everyone dosent have the pacients to learn something as simple as what good pokes ur charecter has
@@rdxgamer1772 Yeah, honestly it's just practicing the game until you figure out what works for you. And as someone who's played this game for about an hour so far, KoF definitely has that kind of freedom.
I should of re-watched before I spent hours hitting the lab. Now things seem possible. Very Helpful!!
Roof’s unique teaching methods in full effect @0:28
Great job. All that clickbait material as you mentioned is incredibly harmful to potential players looking to get into a new fighting game. Many content creators only add to the fire with gatekeeping myths and false information.. perhaps to scare people away and/or stoke their own ego.
Thank you for dispelling those myths with honesty and knowledge and encouraging/teaching people about these games.
Honestly the button hold trick along with MAX mode freezing the screen are gamechangers for me, two of the hardest things for me as a humble Yamazaki stan in KOF 14 was not dropping after MAX Mode activate, and getting the Climax timing after his awkward super animations.
I think a lot of games could be made better with hold buffer like this (done properly of course, looking at you Smash Ultimate)
KoF has had the button hold buffer in there since the 90s. And I keep being annoyed and angry that other fighting games haven't stolen the tech.
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It also makes Climax Cancelling K's supers consistent, specifically the one where he dashes across the screen faster than you can blink. To climax cancel that you have to hit the level 3 input as soon as K' makes contact with the opponent. If not for the hold trick I'd miss it 90% of the time.
omg thank you so much for pointing out the hold button trick! I just picked up XIII on a sale to see what KOF was like and I couldn't even complete the first Kyo trial! GG Strive was my first fighting game.
Man, this story fits me perfect. When KoF14 was about to be released, I bought KoF13 (first KoF but not first fighting game) and when I was in practice mode, I already noticed the strict timings and I was worried about me ever getting "good".
When I played trails for about 2-3 hours, I was so frustrated, turned the game off and never touched it again nor bought KoF14.
So this Video will most likely give KoF15 for me a new chance.
(In Tekken you always have a nice buffer window, to make combos very smooth to learn but this trick here is kinda similar to the buffer I am familiar with.)
thanks, this video is gold for beginners to KoF15
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To this day I can't understand what people find so "strict" about KOF13's timings. Practically every actual combo is done out of chains, and specials/supers had gigantic input buffers that made timing cancels/links/juggles really easy.
@@AirLancer 👍👍
@@AirLancer Ikr, it wasn't that hard. I don't think I managed everyone's trials, but I did get through most of them in XIII. The windows are a lot more lenient than people think.
This is exactly why I was so scared to even try KoF and this is definitely a game changer for me. Thank you!
This Has to be one of the best fighting channels on RUclips. Always gives very good information without Clickbait. Way better than some of these bigger fighting game channels, you should have way more subscribers
I make videos in the way I like to watch other videos. Which means I mostly focus on education, and clickbait basically isn't a thing here. I would get more views and make more money if I did the clickbait for sure, but thankfully that's not my main motivation.
Well, this thumbnail of Mai was kind of clickbait 😁😁😁
@@marriedwithgaming9070 every thumbnail with Mai is a clickbait 😅
The FGC as a whole should really drop the whole "fighting games are too hard for you scrubs" mentality. Now is a better time than ever for anyone even a little curious about KOF to get in and check out the franchise.
Be welcoming to new players and we'll get more games and bigger tournaments, it's really just that simple
Yea kof has always had these simplified commands or shortcuts moves to play the game easier. Good video
This is honestly huge for acessibility, I much rather have this than autocombos (and I SUCK)
I was surprised playing the beta how smooth the combos were. There's a ton of special cancellable command normals that are generously linkable from a lot of other buttons. I found basic combo routes tend to be pretty easy to discover myself, which usually doesn't happen in fighting games since I usually just go look up the combos online.
I can't wait for that Vanessa, Luong, and Angel guide its gonna be my first KoF game I took seriously, keep up the good content!
Rooflemonger putting in the work as always. Many thanks.
I tried the open beta for this game and my biggest gripe, straight up deal breaker, was how weird funky the timing for cancels and shit was, I kid you not when I say that this might have single handledly sold me on this game
This is a timeless video, since I'm sure I won't be the last person looking for this kind of information about KOF. I've always wanted to get into this series because of the insane amount of character choices, but never could get comfortable with it, but I think these tips may change that some. Thanks man.
Damn I had no idea about the button hold tricks that's gonna be super usefull thanks!
I first discovered you when Dragonball Fighterz came out and it was so hype seeing every new video that really unlocked the game to a fighting game newbie like me. I’m getting that feeling again, bro! Hope that tons more people make the transition from casual play to the fighting game life through these guides!
🙏
Completely agree with you, Fighterz was where I started and Rooflemonger helped me break through the entry barrier there too!
@@_th3rdrick_645 same. Gotta say though going from fighterz to KoF has been jarring in terms of combo structure and inputs but I’m not gonna quit the game is mad fun
These guides have motivated to actually give the game a shot. It’s gonna be my first KOF but you’ve given a great foothold to start on
You will have a lot of fun, its great!
All these years and I never knew about the button hold... many thanks! What was the first kof to implement this?
pfft I got no idea, its been a thing for a good long whiles though
Canceling shoryu into half circle still seems insane to me to do. Struggled on Ryo trial 5 because of it. Gonna try it again now after watching this guide. Thanks Roof!
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@@omegasmr3056 I got that shit on lock now. Sometimes I drop it online but when I get it, it leads to big damage 👌
Thanks boss!! How can this channel be so cool. I'm learning a lot from your last 3 videos, just like I did from your MK11 videos in the previous years 🙌
I just wanna help people learn fighting games is all. They are the coolest games.
As I practiced some basic combos in KoF '98 UM and '02 UM, I noticed that they had a hold buffer as well, but I never did them on purpose, so I accidentally performed the wrong moves when I wanted to do command normals, lol! But I'll definitely have to practice using them to my advantage to save me the trouble of their otherwise strict timing!
Now, I actually learned about the input buffer techniques shown later in this vid as well, and they helped me A TON when I was doing Maxima's KoF13 combo trials! They also helped me execute Heidern's Moon Slasher into his supers which would've been tricky otherwise with how his motions worked; as such, I would, for example, hold down, then Tiger Knee back to do the Moon Slasher while buffering the qcb part of his qcb+hcf motion of his super. Even then I have to be fast with that technique, so I gotta practice it some more when I play Heidern in KoF15!
One last thing, I really liked the "KoF Trials killed my family" thumbnail you made! That really cracked me up! XD
no hyperbole, this is the best fg tutorial I've ever used
KOF13 Trials haunt us all
I'm so glad youtube recommended your channel to me last year, I would never know those tricks without you man :) thx a lot.
Waiting till the 17th, getting the physical version. With these vids, they really convinced me on getting the game. During the beta I was a little hesitant due to the mechanics seeming to be complicated but my nerves are at ease. Can't wait, will be tuning in for combo vids.
Such a genius buffer system. That seems to really amend the intricate pretzel motions, so kudos to SNK for that. And thanks for the thorough breakdowns man! your past couple of videos have really helped build my confidence in getting good at this game!
These KoF guide videos have been a tremendous help getting me to improve and also enjoy KoFXV a lot more! In particular, your videos on the absolute basics, team composition, and this one's topic of input buffering have been solid. As a side note, I also really like the lore vids on the KoF series as well. They're helping me get a lot more invested in my team picks.
Oh wow this is some cracked out cheese. Please post more of these tips/tricks if you can. I'm sure it'd potentially bring more players into the game. I love the KOF characters but the games always scared me due to the execution barrier. But this really helps make things easier.
Just wanna say huge thanks for these guides. I've been wanting to play KOF for the longest time and your guides have kinda eased my mind into getting it when it drops!
Thank you.. GGS was my first fighting Game, but because os most the KOF video RUclips is about how hard the input is, so i was kind not into to buy, but now i more excited to buy it
Novriltataki talked about these tips too, how you should hold buttons and not complete entire motion inputs as the game does it for you.
Goes to show how far legacy skill can get you through all of it. I'm looking forward to playing this though, but it'll be a while to get used to the combo system.
I have another situation I haven't been able to figure out that wasn't covered in this video. Something that has always given me trouble is situations in which I need to avoid the second tip in this video. The direction buffer is useful when I need to reuse previous inputs, but what do I do when I need to avoid reusing those inputs? For example, when I need to do a QCF move followed by a HCB one, but not do the QCF+HCB special. I've never been able to find info on how to handle these cases, so I think a guide on how to do those would also be very appreciated. Good job on the guide!
The button hold trick will be super valuable but I think for me the real Shiner is the section for smartly using inputs. I'm glad you're trying to show the game isn't AS hard as it is made out to be. With the first three videos for this you have put out these past few days you have single-handedly changed my mind about the game completely. Well you and the commenter that replied in the how to build a team video ;)
I don't know if this specifically applies to XV, but if you ever have a situation where you want to cancel into a 63214x2 super from a DP, you can do 632146.P for your DP, then another 63214 for the super.
Again, no clue if this is specifically necissary for KOF XV but if it is, it's super useful.
I have been trying to get into fighting games recently and got hyped hearing about KoFXV. After seeing series veterans play, I started to think that this game would be difficult for me. Your latest content, especially this video, has gotten me so excited to play this game. I think I will be able to stick with this game and enjoy it! Thanks, roofle! Keep going with the great videos!
If you have a PS5 try Guilty Gear Strive. Its really good and fun
Nice to know that input buffering works in KOF. I love the series, but I’ve always struggled with what I thought was more demanding execution. Thanks for this, rooflemonger!
Thanks for the thorough description. When i first heard about this I thought it was some kinda weird negative edge situation and figured it would be difficult to time 🤣
Hearing that KoF13 is one of the harder KoFs when it comes to inputs quells any doubts or worries i had jumping into KoF15, cause personally once you kind of figured the timing and little tricks to it, it seemed fairly consistent in 13.
Excited to see what other KoF 15 content you have planned for the channel, and hope you get some time to enjoy the game purely for yourself outside of the content 😀 !
Keep up the awesome work!
Awesome tutorial to make those combos crispy and to confirm those hits, this is ONE TOP content for new comers to get into KoF, as always thanks
Great piece of content sir
This is vital information for anyone interested in or planning or play this game.
This community appreciates you and all the work you do
An A press is an A press. You can't say it's only half.
Classic
Alright I pre ordered let's do this
Thanks so much for this video. Input buffering is a thing I was aware of but never seen described/demonstrated as "the button trick." This made XV /immediately/ more accessible to me!
Wow this helped a bunch thanks, i was struggling to have my supers come out consistently or timing them
thank you so much for explaining this to me. i was so confused on how i was gonna go from one special to a super so fast
i already kind of figured out the button hold thing on my own which has helped me a lot cause i'm used to mostly playing anime games where everything just kinda comes out without much timing required. this video definitely helped explain it to me in a way where i can use it more effectively though, thanks :3
Extremely helpful as usual. Didn't know there was a 10 frame input buffer system. Kinda like smash ultimate.
Thanks for this video. This is my first KOF and I play on PS5 with a basic ps5 controller. Some of the analog motion inputs can be tricky, so this is a great tip for someone like me who is just now grasping the basics.
With my finger literally hovering over the purchase now button, this video come out and convinces me to get it
I'm not sure if i totally get it. So do you like hold the punch button during the whole combo or is it a series of timed holds?
Very useful trick I gotta say, and even the 5 bars raw max mode tod combos you see many people doing online at the end of the day are still basic combo structure into 3 supers, now that i think about it it's actually pretty easy to read the game as well
I have to ask since I have seen many videos talking about the button hold, but there is a detail that is overlooked that I would like to know. When you are holding down the button, are you letting go of the button to trigger the attack you want, or are you always holding down the button, and the attack triggers while the button is still held down?
Me and my friend are first time players and we noticed it was hard asf to accurately input things so this helps a lot
As someone who started with 02 um I realized how execution heavy some of the combos are on there. I'm looking forward to playing xv
I'm new to the series and I know for sure this will make everyhing easier when I can get my hands on the ganethis thursday. Thaanks 🙌
Thanks a lot for these Kof xv videos, I'll be sharing them with my friends when the pc version drops
That stadium is so sick looking
I never knew about this trick when playing KoF games before and damn. I’m very thankful for knowing it now. Trying to cancel supers into supers always frustrated me because the cancel window isn’t always intuitive, but apparently I can just do the motion and it’ll get there when it gets there. Nice.
Wow? This is my first time learning that you can hold the button for an input to be released at its earliest opportunity. This is great,! You just gained another subscriber. Keep it up!!
Hey roof, just wanted to let you know I really appreciate what you're doing for the KoF community.
Also do you ever stream? I'd love to watch you play
Streams been a bit slow lately but they will start getting regular again with KoF XV's launch. Will probably start up again on Thursday and then usually the schedule is Tues/Thurs/Fri
@@rooflemonger I look forward to it, do you do them through RUclips or twitch?
@@trulydumb506 Twitch. If I did streams on YT I feel like it would clutter up the channel
@@rooflemonger fair enough :) see you there at some point. Look out for a "Doom_Bloom"! :)
I was having trouble with getting special moves to come out sense my timing is pretty bad. So this helps a lot. Specifically Iori's punch combo was messing me up a lot in the beta. Despite it being insanely easy. Lol
Your a godsend! I want to get into KOF but the timings were frustrating to do manually
Rooflemonger you have made getting back into fighting games great bro. Your last video convinced me to try out KOF. Only played it at the laundromat with broken buttons and it was still fun but now I am glad to try it out for real 15 years later.
With this and the character and team building guides i really feel prepared to take on KoF XV head on at release day!
Godspeed, Rooflemonger. You just succesfully sold that game to me.
sick video, the held button trick saved my life LOL
Bro, thank you so much for this tutorial. I was getting so angry to the point I didn’t even want to play this game anymore but this helped me out a lot. Thank you so much.
This helped me instantly with combos and understanding the game as a whole. Thanks
Does the button trick work in previous KoF games like 13?
Thanks for the info. Considering getting this game & hope to apply that, if possible.
With every video i get more thankful that i discovered rooflemongers channel
Dude I was already gonna try the game because of the amount of content it has but you definitely dispelled my fears of learning the game. Thanks
Rooflemonger your guides have been the foundation to my fighter game experience starting with DBFZ, then Strive. and now KOF. The amount of time you dedicate to educate means a lot man. You deserve to be in the hall of fame!
Thanks friend I appreciate it! 💪🐵
Most helpful fighting game video possibly ever? Just helped me SO much.
This video did wonders my man, Yeahh I just got this and was trying Andy and couldn’t combo the specials. But now it’s way easier just gunna take some practice and fights to see what I can do
Thank you! this is genuinely really good info. I was always under the impression that KOF was near impenetrable, this video might make me get the game eventually.
clickbaiters created an atmosphere that basically totally f'ed up peoples conceptions of what KoF is. KoF has some quirks but its difficulty is way overblown.
You can play the old ones for free on MAME or fightcade and see if you like it. The core of the game doesn't change as much from game to game as Street Fighter or MK.
XV has quality of life improvements like these and better input buffers designed to work with modern controllers as well so if you like KoF 2002 you'll likely love XV.
I would highly recommend this series, has great systems in neutral!!
Great video, this has helped me a ton :)
Wow... I did not know this. Thanks for the info!!!!
It's funny how you mentioned KOF trials and how the general public (myself included) usually thinks the combos are hard af, thanks for the great combo 101 you absolute legend
This def makes me a fair bit less intimidated towards this game. Might have to try and grab it if it can go on sale sometime
I forget exactly when it started, but the button hold buffer has been in KoF for a LONG time. Blazblue has a similar system with a shorter repeating window, but it works on all command normals as well as specials.
Thanks for making this video and teaching newcomers that KOF isn’t that hard of a series. Hope to see more KOF XV content in the future!
Plenty more kof is coming!
You're a saint for this!!
Thanks bro other people make this game seem like a mission to pick up but you gave me hope lol
The frame info is very useful
I found the technique Hella helpful thanks you, I was struggling with characters like k' when trying inputting a super after his first uppercut frame and it requires to be ultra fast, its basically close to impossible, but with this technique it works better and I have no chance of dropping it so yeah thanks this works great
With this, this game is about to get Hella exciting for me. Subbing!
Just wanna say this video is amazing, I play with my feet and with every other game I can't input supers into my combos cuz it too much, with this, I was inputting dp into super into climax with Kula and then adding it into full bnb combos in about half an hour.
Wish more games had this tech like SFV
These new guides have helped me get a lot. Thank you! I have a question, I’m having trouble doing King’s Trap Shot from slide is there an easy way to do this?
Thanks, I didn’t know about the hold trick.