The 1988 VIDEO Floppy Disk Camera: Canon Xap Shot RC-250
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Canon XapShot is one radical late 80s still video camera. It takes photos and saves them to a floppy disk, but it's not a digital camera. It does so using analog NTSC recording tech!
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LGR really is becoming the American Techmoan.
But wilø clint throw Techmoans tea in the harbor??,
Eeeey, Techmoan squad! :D
Already there in my opinion. They are two of my favorite channels!
We should all chip in and get him a Clint muppet
I thought the 8 bit guy was the american techmoan
OMG! I REMEMBER THIS! My middle school bought the original model for it's computer and technology class, well more specifically, comp/tech club. I was 12 years old and it was my task to figure out how it worked/hooked up to AV. Apparently there was some sort of program for the entire state (KY) that each middle/high school was going to get one of these. We ended up being one of the pilot schools. So after learning how to do everything you could with it i was invited (along with my comp teacher) to stand in front of an audience of about 200 teachers/principles/staff at the Lexington Marriott conference room and give a demonstration. I had to give a tutorial and a short talk on why this device would be beneficial in tech clubs/classes across the state. I about shit my pants when I walked out on stage and saw all those teachers. Talk about being in the enemies den! lol (nah everyone was super nice!) Jeez how long ago was that... early 90's? 25? 27 years ago? FUCK YOU TIME!
Hey, don't complain, In the early 90's I had already graduated('93). The computers in my programming classes in HS were all AT clones without HDD, just 5 1/4" floppies. I did have an Amiga 500 in my AV class with a digitizer(complete with the B&W camera and 3 color disc wheel), where I would make the animated intros for our news studio.) And our HS was practically brand new at the time.
@@mikeworkman3593 They didnt complain?
This is a great comment.
Amen, Stanley!
So, what did they think?? Did you convince them to place an order for more of the cameras?
Great story btw, thank you for sharing your memories.
the real star of the show here, honestly, is the ultra-aesthetic deluxe Trinitron TV.
the real star is the ham sandwich thankyou.
My grandma had her Trinitron from 1988 in constant use until ~2016, when the image went to Black/White... It was 6 months older than me. 😭 RIP
I never understood the concept of tvs with side speakers that angle outward. They both fire away from you.
@@thescreamingfish Indirect Sound has been utilized for a dang long time. The idea was to put the TV in a corner, and let the acoustics make them sound like a larger volume cabinet. It was always "muddy" as it made the case of the TV vibrate at higher volumes, but it was novel, and was better than anemic front-face only speakers. 🤷♂️ Win some, lose some; at least they work
thescreamingfish look now, we didn’t get where we are without a little trial and error along the way.
Came for the sandwich. Stayed for the review.
And it was a satisfying-sounding sandwich.
DankTendencies I came for the review & stayed for the sandwich which I made just now to go with =)
Where the fuck. Is the sandwich.
@@lavabite 2:41 - 2:44
that sandwich was so perfect I thought it was clipart or edited in until he moved it, I may need more sleep...
"and you get an LCD panel...for displaying LCDs...on a panel" The quality content I subscribed for! 👍
That and "A viewfinder thing for finding views."
Classic.. :D
I heard there would be sandwiches?
Cheeseburgers for everybody!
Here! Have a LGRwich!
What does woodgrain taste like?
That's a nice looking sandwich. I thought for a second he used a stock image.
beware of "Sandvich" hunter from Gabe's kingdom!
I miss electronics that made a click-ka-chung sound.
I miss you
Yep the mechanical sounds giving a real feeling something happens in the machine. Now it just plays a crappy shutter-like sound sample and all the magic is fully hidden.
Only guns and artificial teeth make those sounds these days.
I miss cars that make that sound
Agreed. The iPad smart-cover just isn’t good enough.
Let's compare this to normal 1440 KB floppy:
- 30 JPG photos at 640x360 resolution at somewhat usable compression,
- 12 JPG photos at 1280x720 resolution with just a minor compression artifacts.
Storing 50 images on floppy, even as analog NTSC frames was really awesome for it's time. Also there's a true beauty in how simple this thing worked. It was also really fast. You just couldn't write a floppy drive as fast as making all 50 continuous shots on this camera. Not to mention about JPG compression that took a lot of time even for dedicated hardware codecs.
In early 2000's phones that had cameras were sluggish when it came to saving and loading JPG files.
This just show how good that camera was.
As for me I remember that Nokia have the option in their phones to watch preview of the photo and only then save it.
Do you remember how abysmally slow early (even up until 2003 or so) digital cameras were? There were a solid second between the press of the button and the actual picture :)
I remember the comparison between my uncle's SD using Yashika thingy at about 5 megapixels vs our Canon Powershot A75 with it's Compact Flash cards. That Canon one was ridiculously faster (also Canon had their Digic image processor too to help), like you could actually take fast sequential shots and video on that.
Found the old 256MB card one day again and popped into the PC's reader. It was an amazing surprise to see that card made 6.5MB/s reads and writes back in 2003 or so, and even today you can find 32GB Class 4 cards that can't do it.
Why not use wavelet Jpeg2000?
You must also think that the HD (High Density) disks that hold 1.4 MByte are not even a thing yet in '88.
The C64 a few years earlier (1984 I think?) uses floppies that hold 160 KByte. So we are talking about even much more space on the VD compared to the 1988's floppy.
When I was at college in the UK, I remember going in to a school to give a talk (media student - hmm) and they were using these. My Dad had one through work, and the teacher was amazed that I knew how they worked. At the end of the day, he gave me a couple of blank VF disks to use with my Dad’s camera and said “don’t tell anyone I gave you these!
When it was looking like this was gonna end with "sorry guys, we can't view the pics" he busts out an MVR-5300. LGR never lets us down. Awesome.
It looks kinda like the binoculars in Empire Strikes Back
Omggggg yes
probably was a mold version of it.
And now I want it.
I can guarantee u it probably was. They used alot of random objects to do that movie
@@GhostRat__ this one was released 7 yrs after ESB
These vids are so crazy relaxing. Love learning about weird tech while chilling out.
I love the industrial design of this unit.
Total unit.
Haha! The LGR ham sandwich makes its debut!
I am so hyped, I must solve the plain sandwich mystery!!!
It was worth the wait.
2:38 Missed opportunity to plug your other channel
I came here from that channel... but I came to that channel from LGR
I'm watching all these great old digital camera episodes and it reminds me why I never even really noticed digital cameras until the Black's Photography store in my local mall abruptly closed doors and DSLRs were suddenly everywhere. Film cameras seemed so superior for so long, until they weren't in around 2003ish, which is when I'd say digital finally was able to close the gap well enough in terms of price and quality. It's crazy how much even the cheapest of these digital cameras cost for the quality. Without the internet driving a desire to upload digital photos to websites, I'm not sure the tech would have progressed as fast as it did.
I would honestly love a modern digital camera in that form factor. Looks nice to hold, like binoculars.
Man you are the Mad Titan of old tech. I would have given up after the second broken unit. YOU BOUGHT A VIDEO DISK VCR FFKK, I bow to you
Those found retro photos were awesome. What a find. Thanks for the show. The comparison with the phone was remarkable.
Agreed! The whole video was fascinating but damn those old photos were pleasing to see! A rare environment to boot.
just imagine all those millions of photos taken in the past, that due to "privacy concerns" etc eventually just end up at the dump never to be looked at by another human being. and now I've made myself sad
That’s a nice looking sandwich
Pretty well packed if you ask me
Sturdy
Kind of impressed with the image quality, I was expecting much worse.
The worst seems to be the analog format and transfer losing a lot of color and chroma. "Standard analog television signals go through several processing steps on their way to being broadcast, each of which discards information and lowers the quality of the resulting images." I remember using a Sony Mavica floppy disc camera, over a decade later, and it was slow as hell just to save a single 50 KB image... But back then there probably was no compression techniques to even fit an image digitally, JPEG had not been invented yet, and digital memory storage might have fit a few hundred kilobytes at most and being very expensive.
JPEG came out in 1992.
Right? Compared to the first digital cameras it wipes the floor. Suppose Canon had some secret sauce in its patent portfolio.
The picture of that old 5-series is just pure gold. I'm slowly restoring a 1986 BMW 635CSI and once I'm done with it, I'd love to take some "classic" pictures of it to nail in that oldschool feel.
Sadly I'm not good at making really old computer stuff work, so I may just get an old analog film camera and take pictures with that...
I am a little blown away with how competent a product this is. It’s fast, takes completely good photos, has a good interface. Shows how Canon was able to absolutely obliterate the digital camera market. They knew what they were doing 15 years before it really heated up. Amazing.
Your videos officially contain way, way too much gorgeous equipment.
I'm voting that Sony still video recorder to be NSFW!
More like NSFL. That thing (despite it working) is technically paper weight nowadays compared to a normal cassette or vhs deck.
Gotta love how everyone’s from LGR Foods trying to solve the sandwich mystery
Wasn't expecting to get a blast of nostalgia and homesickness in this video, but that Ingles sign really takes me back.
I was watching this video thinking, "Man! Clint drank way too much coffee today!" Then I realized I had RUclips on 1.25 speed from a few videos ago.
"Has Clint been drinking?" Nope (maybe), 3/4 speed.
god do i love the aesthetic of this thing and its photos. not only were those pictures you took deliciously awesome and retro, but the fact that one of the floppies it came with had truly vintage photos on it is so freaking cool to me. makes me want to go to my parents' house and look through old photo albums. makes me feel super nostalgic and kinda choked up, honestly. great work as always, LGR.
That’s utterly bizarre. Tiny floppys they store analogue video!? Madness! I love it.
This takes me back. I used one in my job at an antiques auction company to make catalogues and advertisements. There is also a macro switch for shooting small objects.
Love these retro cameras thankyou Clint, happy Friday :)
Very interesting to see the origins of that face we all make @1:42 when we're on some holiday with family and we've been asked to pose for the 18th time for a picture taken in the exact same spot as the previous 17 ones. Thanks Digital (and Still Video) cameras!!!
Is this a format that Techmoan has yet to cover?
Yep, seems the LGR was faster. Anyway, thanks LGR for this Techmoan-ish video. :-)
or even VWestLife for that matter.
never heard of techmoan before, just watched one of his videos jeez so bad and boring. LGR is so much better way more entertaining and interesting
+jonnysedge To all their own. You'd probably not like VWestLife's videos either as they are in more or less a similar vein.
@@rommix0 , or those "unfunny" puppets.
Videos are always relaxing, good for my lazy days off work.
Wow a lot of works were put into making this video, thanks!
Sandwich squad where are you guys???
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Here! It makes somewhat more sense now.
(But the Miracle Whip! Why!?!)
Here!
Eating a sandwich as well.
Miracle Whip is amazing; don't you dox it!
Amy Carter I don't deny it's amazing, just not the kind of amazing I like. Me expressing disgust is not intended to dismiss the opinions of those who prefer things I want to avoid. For some reason things like this tend to degenerate into fights as if we've somehow forgotten that it's okay to like different things and that we aren't all the same.
(I'm not implying that you are guilty of this, just trying to forestall unnecessary escalation.) We've established we have different taste in bread lubricant. Let's go back to how amazing LGR is at narrating videos and get along as best we can despite never being able to agree on one of the most amazing parts of a sandwich.
We good? Good.
I have never thought of condiments as bread lubricant until I read this comment. I have no idea if I am laughing this hard because it is that hilarious, or if I am just that tired and stuck at work.
Clint, your town never changes...
i just love how late 80s-early 90s tech looks
Video Floppy Disk was very popular for still content in television back then.
It just amazes me there was such a market for these weird semi-digital cameras in the 80’s and 90’s. I was still shooting film exclusively into the late 2000’s!
Great job Clint! Loved this episode, thanks man!
"And an LCD panel, for displaying LCD's. on a panel" Typical LGR, Love it so much!!
That beauty shot with the background graffiti was awesome !
Because Clint is awesome ;)
5:50 I could listen to that over and over, and over... You never get to hear these things today.
The same pictures as the mavica photos's thanks for the consistency clint!
Super cool! When I was in 7th grade I used one of these to make a stop-motion animation in my multimedia class! I captured the video by mashing the FF button while connected to the video input of an all-in-one mac of some sort running Premiere. I dumped that out to VHS, and then I made a credit crawl with an Apple IIGS!
Cliff! Never stop making obscure retro tech videos! This stuff needs to be documented for posterity.
Mmh, I love the smell of woodgrain in the morning. Also, that still video pic of the IBM isn't SFW.
I remember we had one of these back in middle school. It was pretty neat.
This is like the future tech you see in 80s sci-fi and cyberpunk films. Also reminds me of future tech in period anime.
Well done, this is the most times I've said 'Why!?' in a single 12 minute block of time.
wow man awesome episode, thankyou!
this is the sort of thing my grandma would tell me to buy from a goodwill as a kid but what I really wanted was a GameBoy!
You are getting close to that magical "million subscribers!"
This is just as cool as the Fisher Price Pixelvision camera that recorded lowres B&W video on Audio Cassettes.
2:40 Hey! I know that sandwich from somewhere.
Take me back... We use to have One in school
I think this is your calling, Clint. Retro camera/video equipment.
I started reviewing old cameras too but like 1940s film ones. I really like these though maybe I should check out the weird digital camera world. Love it lol
Wow it looks really cool! Thank you. Always like your videos.
"Vaporwave wet dream"
I'm gonna start using that term.
Buddy you got a great channel man. Love the videos!
Man, I just love how stuff from the 80s and 90s look.
this tiger seems to be one of your fav things to photograph with such old cameras.i like that!
I'm pretty sure he uses it as a consistent example of all still cameras he does a video on.
It's a good object to shoot for quality and color profiling.
Whoaah if you had these stuff back in 1988, you were 16 years ahead of the time,because it was not untill the early 2000’s that we started to watch foto’s onscreen.
It’s interesting to see a device being a hybrid between analogue and digital in one, oh well 1988 can be considered as the hybrid age.
There was Kodak's Photo CD from the early 1990's that let you watch pictures on your TV.
I love these videos on obscure floppy disks. Companies like Sony and Canon were doing filmless cameras in the 1980s.
It’s amazing when you pull out the honkin’ big recorder: take that.
i feel like people underestimate old digital (or hybrid) cameras
there is alot of fun to be had and some models produce amazing results IMO
Those photos are great!
I used one of these shooting homes for a weekly real estate TV show.
We had a bunch of these in high school back in the day - used a video spigot on the Mac to capture the pictures. They worked well enough, but often they had playback issues rendering the photo's unviewable :(.
cool video! I had the RC-260 model and a video capture card to store the images on PC.
Dang! These were before my time and I honestly had no clue up until now something like this existed.
It's ridiculous how both technology and our perception of it has changed. When I was a kid a walkman seemed so sophisticated. Electronic typing machines seemed like sci-fi because of the moving part (printers were slow, so typing machines were usually preferred in hospitals, police stations and what not). Big screens and mobile phones were so fascinating and if you understood computers even a little bit, you were considered a whiz. Now we've got plain Joes wondering whether a quantum computing chip could improve Witcher 3 graphics :)
While I greatly appreciate all the technology we have today, I do kinda miss the sounds analog devices used to make.
Man I really wish I had been born a few decades earlier so I could've used awesome technology like this.
Lol, that delete procedure....so very intuitive.
Good luck finding that without the manual!
*edit:* To be fair, I hadn't noticed that the _mode_ button is also labeled "erase". But still...
I'm going to guess that accidental erasures were a bit of a problem during the test phase. "Let's see, how can we make sure people don't accidentally erase their photos like we did? Hey, I know..."
That shit was fucking SATISFYING in the era of this garbage! Everything was just a tiny bit shittier than you wish they were, build quality, usability, durability(usually either incredible or horrid), etc., but it was all immensely satisfying to use, as you click along, taking these crappy pictures of dumb stuff, deep down knowing that you're probably gonna regret this purchase just slightly when you see the mediocre quality of your pictures. But, I'll be damned if you don't still pull it out occasionally, because it's just so damn satisfying - the camera.
Anyway, I gotta...
I had no idea that video floppies existed. This feels very parallel-universe.
That big Still Video Recorder has to be one of most unusually outdated devices I've ever seen. This is cool stuff and exactly what I subscribed for. You and Techmoan are the best.
My internal monologue: "Oh, a video on old cameras! Cool, I have no interest in collecting them myself, so I won't immediately run to eBay and buy yet another audio/video component." *A wild MVR-5300 appears* "SHIT!"
back in the late 90's i use to have a nice analog capture card (brooktree) and made money by making digital images for people via an old school VHS camcorder. They were dumbfounded how I took still with a VHS and returned to them a floppy full of jpgs. (each still was a 10 second video clip where i picked out the best part of the image)
I liked this video because he mentioned vaporwave.
I am just wowed. I didn't even realize there was such digital camera tech until the mid 90's. I was around 88' HS learning how to manually develop and process my own film from legacy scroll film from snap, negatives to manual printing in our HS lab. I thought digital camera's didn't appear until a later date, let alone micro floppy digital cameras. I still even have my Pentax K1000 from back in the day with all the lenses, filters and carrying case. But alas you can't buy film for it anymore :(
This is not digital, just electronic. I can understand the confusion, though. It's basically an analog NTSC camera which saves one frame on demand.
This is basically a magnetic tape video camera except it has a really really low frame rate (takes individual frames only, on demand) and the "tape" is actually in the shape of a disc
I must admit I literally LOL:ed at "a window for the viewfinder to find views" :D
Amazing what human ingenuity can accomplish in ~30 years.
I have one of those Canon XapShot cameras and a Sony MVR-5400 which has RGB I/O. In the late 80's Canon made pro version of the cameras and a "Stilll video transfer" system which included a video floppy drive, 5" Trinitron monitor, a SCSI port and a modem, some reporters in China had the system in their hotel room and they where able to get pictures from Tiananmen square into newspapers with just an international phone call.
A Subaru Brat at 9:55! What a rare car!
LGR: say hello to the Sony MVR-5300
Me: hello!
I love the look of the images when you're reviewing them on the TV lol. Is that sort of degraded/wobbly look common to other types of floppy disk cameras, like the Mavica? Or is it just a video floppy disk thing? thanks
ah LGR "Things" always an instant like from me
This episode is like an American version of Tech Moan haha! This camera is super interesting so thankyou for sharing!
Oh man, this thing basically makes GIF's on a single disc, with the holding down the button.
I was thinking "Oh great another old camera video." Then you whipped out that Sony VFD player and all was right in the world.
The sandwich makes sense now. Thank you.
Man, if picking this up were cheaper, I'd love to have one... Those photos just look awesome to me.
Oh well, it's not like I'd even understand how to use it. Old tech confuses the hell outta me.
That E28 made the perfect subject 👌
feels like you should've hit up some retrowave artist for some background music for those image montages, haha... but what a neat piece of tech!
3:46 - I love crisp disk eject mechanisms! Sooo good!
Techmoan for retro audio
LGR for retro cameras
learning about stuff I've never heard of, that now I'm sad I missed when it was out.
Damn I really like the design of this thing! Well ahead of its time I think.
You're like the Iron Man of the internet, but your suit of armor is made out of cool, retro tech.