It's Parabolica. People crash there. At least the kid has the stones to go full send on his first hot lap. Taxi drivers get paid to be steady and responsible. Race car drivers get paid to go fast.
There’s 4 kinds of drivers you can be: 4. A slow driver who crashes (Sargent/Mazepin) 3. A slow driver who doesn’t crash (Zhou) 2. A fast driver who crashes (KMag/Yuki) 1. A fast driver who doesn’t crash (Max/Lewis). If you’re not a #1 then I want you at least to be a #2. Because someday you will become a #1. Kimi is a #2 and has the capacity to become a #1. There’s no way Toto is completely upset.
Max crashed so often in his early years they had an entire webpage dedicated to it. Practice, races, opponents, teammates, you name it. The saving grace is that he was fast and fearless in an age before the budget cap. If Kimi remains fast, he'll have a lot of leeway for crashes as he develops. His real limit is an age of budget caps with cars from outer space.
@@Chirondebree Considering he dragged the 2021 Haas into Q2 in France, he is a mix of 2 and 4. He can be quick if he has the confidence. Either he drives like Silverstone 2022 or Monaco 2022
@@freakysquirrel7218 He was a bit off Kmag who is now quite far off Hulkenburg so I wouldn't say his pace was strong, especially consistently. Also his crashes were really expensive like wrecking the car in Monaco.
Even Max has said when asked if he had any advice for kimi he said to make mistakes, cause that's how you learn. That is ok to make those mistakes now.
Kimi chose the wrong time and place to learn. There are a lot of other things to learn before literally making an impression with the car on the barrier. You can learn how the tires work, how to manage them, how to handle the heat on the car, how to drive in traffic, how to take advantage of the tow, how to brief your engineer while driving, you can learn what information is valuable for the team, what do you want to be informed while driving, you can also learn how to pit and practice starts, and so on...I don't think Kimi learned a lot from his experience today.
@@leod9968Yeah it would have been better for him to have a longer session, but that's on Merc for sending the kid out to push fast laps straight away. Do a different run plan.
Sure it is. But the thing is: Will this shows us that Albon is not actually that great, and that Williams should actually be a bit better? That Logan skewed our view on Albon's performance
I don’t think it’s too early for Kimi. He has the talent and the speed. He can overcome/iron out these mistakes with time/experience. Simply put, give him time to gain experience and he’ll be fine. It’s easier to help a fast driver be more consistent than to get a slow driver to drive faster. Also, having George, one of the best drivers on the grid (and, imo, one of the most impressive/standout drivers this season) as a potential future teammate would help him a lot.
@@artielikesthingsOllie is pretty bad though. Amazes me how he even got a seat. He's got less than half the points Kimi has and simply is one of the worst drivers on the F2 grid. At the same time multiple former F2 winners can't get a seat.
@@daarom3472genuine question: did you watch F2 last year? Because Bearman was one of the best rookies, and certainly not bad. The same goes for the rest of his junior career, up until this year. And on top of that, he’s done countless of tests, so Ferrari has a lot of data of his speed in F1 cars
No talk about the hot seats of both Mercedes, I have to say I was impressed with the Williams new kid, for someone who got stuck in the seat at a moments notice, he did really well to gradually ease himself into the seat, and build up speed, As for Antonelli, he's certainly fast though needs to calm down, and who knows maybe this will be a big lesson for him and will help him next season, as Toto's interview seem to suggest he will be the Mercedes driver next season.
Kimi definitely ran monza in the simulator a bunch and got used to how it felt when it's technically rubbered in and didn't account for the fact that monza's new tarmac hasn't fully been rubbered in yet. Remember the 2020 Turkish Grand Prix practice sessions when it looked like everyone was driving on a wet track when it was completely dry. It's a pretty similar situation and Kimi didn't realize he wouldn't have anywhere near the same grip as on the simulator. It's just crazy that Kimi was confident enough to send it a whole load faster than a majority of other drivers. It's better to be a fast driver that crashes occasionally rather than a slow driver that never crashes.
I've never been on the edge of my seat in FP1 before, until now. From the moment the broadcast started, it was basically non-stop commentary and anticipation for Antonelli, all the way up until his crash. So much hype, so much expectation, and I just had this uneasy feeling right before the crash. Hope he can withstand all the coverage and keep his head on straight.
@@scottmeredith3359 i mean, he couldve crashed into t1. from what i saw in the two laps he ran, he had pace and commitment, the kid looks fast, lets just give him time
@@scottmeredith3359 Vettel got a penalty less than 10 minutes in his debut because of speeding in the pitlane. After that, he bounced back so well. Kimi has shown that he has some pace, he now needs to bounce back in his second outing if given a chance
@@abrahamnyaranga865speed8ng in the pitlane due to a fault with a speed limiter and crashing full speed into parabolica are slightly different scenarios
Thing is Mercedes don’t HAVE to rush his development they’ve more just chosen to. Sainz was available they could have signed Carlos to merc for a few years and let kimi develop more with less pressure in a Williams seat
The amount of cope for Kimi is insane. Even the commentators where trying to make light of the situation, when Kimi did the same thing that Logan did but one is got a seat and one lost it.
its weird to me how franco "does not have the cv to be a f1 driver" being that he did not only do (le mans and other categories)F4, F3 and a good season in F2 but Antonelli "has the cv to replace Hamilton" when he did not do F3 and has had a terrible F2 so far.
No F1 fans have apparently ever watched a sports or action movie. There's a formula to these things! The opening always has the protagonist failing, getting humbled, usually dressed down by someone. It's the first two parts of the 15 part story bible. We all know how it ends.
I wouldn't put to much into Kimi crashing, any time a track gets repaved it's usually a wild ride for the first season. Having way more grip than previous seasons can definitely make things interesting. And if it rains the tracks turn into ice rinks .
You guys probably missed Max didn’t get to finish his fast lap on softs because of the red flag caused by Kevin Magnussen. His long run wasn’t bad at all.
Kimi was pushing too hard and cooked the rears, as he was 7kmph faster than Max through Parabolica and 14kmph faster through Ascari. But I think the consequences outweighed the error in this case. Cause many other drivers also made mistakes and had offs too (especially there), so whether or not everyone was driving past the limits of the new tarmac, I don't think you can pin the crash totally on just Kimi being inexperienced.
It was his first outing in an F1 car. That corner has claimed many many experienced drivers. If you are going to drive on the limit you have to cross it to find what the limit is. The question now is has he learned from it? And has it dented his confidence? Its those 2 things that will tell you if he is any good or not, and, while I am not suggesting he is as good, all I have to say is Max Verstapen
Kimi was 7 tenths up on Lewis’ last lap through 2 sectors, 1.5 seconds up on his own first lap before the crash. The dude was sending it on the limit the whole way. Love to see it.
@@kraftwerk8077 Completely subjective and situational based off the driver and their talent. If you’ve been watching f1 longer than a random DTS fanboy you’d know that young rookies tend to crash, a lot. But there’s a difference between crashing and being slow (sargeant) vs crashing and being fast (Verstappen/leclerc). Bro is doing pretty good in f2. 2 race winner, 7th in points and ahead of his teammate in a Prema that’s been less than stellar. Probably 6th in points if Kush didn’t punt him in turn 1 a few races back. I’d say as a freshly minted 18 year old who skipped f3 he’s performed more than acceptable for his age and experience. I’d rather watch young talent drive on the limit and learn from it than drive slow and fade into mediocrity.
Bottas was 3rd the moment that Kimi crashed. The times that moment had no meaning. Kimi should have taken it easy and drive the whole hour and not crash like a noob.
Max used to crash all the time but it was on a Toro Rosso, not a Mercedes and YES it is too early for Kimi as it was too early for max but there wasn't too much of a pressure on Max back then !
I like antonelli and I get why toto doesn’t want to lose him. But he needs more time in f2 As Palmer pointed out. There was no need, or sense going that quick so early. The grip was never going to be there
You can find the limit by building up slowly, or by going full beans right away, surpassing it, and then backing off until you hit the sweet spot. It's obvious that Kimi's not just stupid or showing off, he's doing the second approach, just like Max did when he was a rookie. Toto's unbothered response says it all: they are ok with Kimi starting out this way, as long as he learns from his mistakes and eventually becomes consistent.
Loving all these supportive Kimi comments, clearly a lot of wheel knowledge here. Really feel for the guy, only 18 and all that pressure. But he'll bounce back for sure, from the sounds of it he's got a great temperment and a great team around him.
The Autosport article spinning this as “his telemetry showed he was faster than any driver” is hilarious. Being out of control and crashing because “you’re faster than everyone else” is pretty freaking easy
Starting to think HAAS got the bargain of the century in Ollie Bearman. Antonelli obviously has nothing going on between the ears, other than swallowing up the hype.
Even Lewis and George say that car is on a knife edge. People need to chill. He’s a talent. He’ll be fine. You’d crash an F1 car on your first go too! 😂
But I am not going to be paid millions of dollars to drive an F1 car… and I wouldn’t crash it because either I wouldn’t drive it or I would crawl around the track at normal driving speeds.
@@thehpn1097 - Ever heard of something called ‘Learning?’ - that’s what Kimi’s doing. - You should give ‘thinking’ a try too, you might find it useful.
fp1: Kimi has a lot of talent, you can see that in what we saw on his driving, Toto's reaction to the crash, just shows that he isn't that bothered about it, so in my eyes, that means that he KNOWS the talent that he is going to sign with regards to Red-bull, you can see that over the past few races, they have struggled - HARD, either somebody isn't doing their job properly or the team seem to have got, complacent, shall we say, at the fact that they were on top, so haven't developed as much as they should, OR, their focus is now on the 2026 car fp2: first off, Kmag's crash, from what i saw, he was pushing the car a little more than normal, but the rear couldn't hold on with regard to Colapinto, the fact that he got so close to his teammate when Logan hasn't, just shows that EITHER Logan wasn't pushing the car to it's limit's, OR Colapinto has a LOT of talent and is showing it, with regard to merc, to ONLY just beat a McLaren by 0.003 secs shows how close the fight is between them both, i can see a three, possibly four way fight in Abu Dhabi between Merc, McLaren, Red-bull and possibly Ferrari with all the crashes that have happened so far this weekend, it shows that when new tarmac is laid down, it takes a while for any grip to form, it's an amazing track and has had some brilliant races in the past, i hope it remains on the calendar for a long time my question for MATT is: given that Hamilton is going to Ferrari next year, and given their current performance, do you think he will win any WDC's?
I'm pretty sure Mercedes told him to send it. I was actually really surprised by not just how much curb he was taking but the precision with which he was taking it. If anything, it just makes me think even more that this kid will be an incredible talent in F1. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone crashes now and then. He will learn from this and only get better.
There’s a reason max was called Max Crashtappen to begin with. These guys have to find the limit. I don’t think he needs to feel any pressure, either he’s good or he isn’t and Mercedes say he’s good, I don’t think they mind a crash today.
One thing with the driver's views on the kerbs is that I feel like there's a lot of complaints or maybe just comments on that these cars can never attack the kerbs and having to focus on avoiding them a lot and now they have changed something so they can take the kerbs and not fly off but they are unhappy, I feel like there is a tiny bit of hypocrisy with it, but that's just me. I hope it makes the racing better and that's what matters the most to me.
Why was the Mercedes run plan to immediately send the rookie out on softs to do quali sims? Why on earth did they start with that? The crash was his mistake but they kinda set him up to fail imo. Why not start with a medium run to get him up to speed?
If Antonelli had finished the session 6 seconds off of Hamilton, people would have said "yeah but he still has so much to learn, no problem it takes time", but as soon as he crashes people goes "oh he's not ready, he's too young, he doesn't deserve that seat, etc..."
How many other SEASONED F1 VETS also had problems today? So many spins, lockups, and avoided disasters today.. First the Safety Car becoming a "Not-So Safe(ty) Car", then Kimi on Lap 2, and then chaos. Give him time. And Colopinto was cooking with so little time in the car. BUT, I have the same thoughts of him, as Kimi. One had a FANTASTIC day, the other didn't. Let's see how this unfolds!!
I can’t believe I’m saying this because I love Williams and loathe Mercedes lol but Alex should get the seat against George and with Williams signing Carlos, having Kimi in a Williams for a couple of years makes more sense at this point. They are rushing him.
I'm not sure about this whole idea that 'it's too early for him', surely the best way for him to develop and prepare for f1 is to be in f1. So long as he has a stable and supportive team behind him, which he clearly does with what Toto has been saying, then surely it's the best situation for him. Merc have the financial backing that few teams come even close to, and they clearly are ready for Kimi to be a work in progress for the next couple years, so I don't see the issue.
I agree, start developing Antonelli, but talking about him taking Lewis' seat for 2025 is jumping the gun big time. Give the kid a huge break. I really hope he overcomes all of this pressure and has a solid career. But, calling him a future champion is nuts.
Regarding the question posted by @MEGAVSPRIMUS: "Do you think Colapinto has a lot of pressure on his shoulders?" To complete the context, we can also consider another perspective, observed from his own country and told by Juan, a reporter from the Argentine Star Sports F1 team, who spoke to Australian F1 photographer Kym Illman at 7:33 of a video posted by Illlman on his RUclips page titled "F1 safety car CRASHES at the ITALIAN GP!"
All good drivers still have crashes. It's how they LEARN from that. I still want Kimi to get the Merc seat. Maybe having being the first race at Monza, as the first Italian F1 driver for years, was a bit much, especially the 3-deep press outside his garage. You can be he'll learn from that. Go Kimi, and best wishes to Franco.
You can't say off one crash whether it's too early for Kimi; yes you can say he should have driven more within his limits but i guarantee Mercedes don't want a driver who will race within their limits. They will want a driver who pushes their limits as far as they can. So I hope he gets more time in the car to settle into it and build his confidence up. If he starts crashing every week then yeah, there's an issue there.
Seems like teams are clueless about managing drivers. High profile rookie debuts at his home race! So many options to reduce the pressure were passed up.
Said it on multiple occasions that Antonelli is not ready for F1. Now, i understand that its his first practice and he needs to build up experience, but throwing him in the deep end with that much pressure is inappropriate. (On a side note, Matt made a good point - Antonelli has just turned 18 - didn't Max's career essentially make the FIA change the age rules, so its the earliest possible chance Antonelli has in the car?) However, unless the FIA change the rules regarding 3rd cars (for young drivers/female drivers) it is very good to see that Mercedes are giving a young driver a chance, its just i don't think he is ready
Antonelli did a good job in F2 after his high G crash. Seems like the real deal in terms of speed and aggression, just needs to balance the other aspects
Needed to clip on the vid because the exact same headline was in 2001 with Kimi 😂 But honestly I think it won’t be bad for Kimi another year in f2 or being reserve for a year like Piastri it’s a lot of pressure after all already on him and his hype and being at a top team from debut is not helping either… it’s difficult I think even for Tot and merc the decision is extremely difficult to make
You can't blame the kid or the team, even the safety car fell off the new track that lacks rubber build up, half the field missed or fell off the corners all the time, that new track has zero grip yet.
This will be dramatic, but as much as I believe Kimi’s crash is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things (I still believe he’s very talented and this doesn’t change anything, it’s a tough track and he’s under lots of pressure), let’s not act like these drivers aren’t risking their lives out there every time they go racing. I just hope to God they know what they’re doing with this kid, I hope he’s pushing because of confidence and not because of external pressure.
It's Parabolica. People crash there. At least the kid has the stones to go full send on his first hot lap. Taxi drivers get paid to be steady and responsible. Race car drivers get paid to go fast.
Damn right!
Race car drivers are also paid not to crash, ask Sargeant
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Sergeant is slow. Slow drivers who crash go into finance.
Mercedes PR is working hard
to go fast and NOT crash tho
There’s 4 kinds of drivers you can be:
4. A slow driver who crashes (Sargent/Mazepin)
3. A slow driver who doesn’t crash (Zhou)
2. A fast driver who crashes (KMag/Yuki)
1. A fast driver who doesn’t crash (Max/Lewis).
If you’re not a #1 then I want you at least to be a #2. Because someday you will become a #1. Kimi is a #2 and has the capacity to become a #1. There’s no way Toto is completely upset.
Max crashed so often in his early years they had an entire webpage dedicated to it. Practice, races, opponents, teammates, you name it. The saving grace is that he was fast and fearless in an age before the budget cap. If Kimi remains fast, he'll have a lot of leeway for crashes as he develops. His real limit is an age of budget caps with cars from outer space.
You can add Schumacher to 4
you can also be inbetween like not fast but not slow either like bottas or ricciardo
@@Chirondebree Considering he dragged the 2021 Haas into Q2 in France, he is a mix of 2 and 4. He can be quick if he has the confidence. Either he drives like Silverstone 2022 or Monaco 2022
@@freakysquirrel7218 He was a bit off Kmag who is now quite far off Hulkenburg so I wouldn't say his pace was strong, especially consistently. Also his crashes were really expensive like wrecking the car in Monaco.
Even Max has said when asked if he had any advice for kimi he said to make mistakes, cause that's how you learn. That is ok to make those mistakes now.
Kimi chose the wrong time and place to learn. There are a lot of other things to learn before literally making an impression with the car on the barrier. You can learn how the tires work, how to manage them, how to handle the heat on the car, how to drive in traffic, how to take advantage of the tow, how to brief your engineer while driving, you can learn what information is valuable for the team, what do you want to be informed while driving, you can also learn how to pit and practice starts, and so on...I don't think Kimi learned a lot from his experience today.
It's not ok to crash F1 after 10-15 min drive. Stop making it sound like Kimi crashing was a good thing.
@@Kornn66 It's not ok nor the end of the world.
@@leod9968Yeah it would have been better for him to have a longer session, but that's on Merc for sending the kid out to push fast laps straight away. Do a different run plan.
Niki Lauda said a similar thing. You learn the best lessons from mistakes but only if you are capable of self reflection.
Colopinto 0.2 seconds behind Albon after 2hrs of driving is amazing from the kid
Sure it is. But the thing is:
Will this shows us that Albon is not actually that great, and that Williams should actually be a bit better? That Logan skewed our view on Albon's performance
Ok, ok, it's JUST PRACTICE
@@ricardopetrere Too early to make any of those claims. Sainz will be the real test for Albon as we know how good Sainz is.
There’s 6 corners at Monza. You could do it
Actually wtf
The segment sky was showing and then quickly cut to Kimi spinning off was the greatest thing I've seen in sport.
I HOWLED LAUGHING. Lol they literally said something like “And here he is now and…. Ahhh he’s in the wall.”
Impeccable timing 🤌
Ive missed it.Can you elaborate?
George and Lewis saying how great it is for Kimi to have this opportunity, especially at the italian gp and then...
@@narcez5797 mustve been awkward
I don’t think it’s too early for Kimi. He has the talent and the speed. He can overcome/iron out these mistakes with time/experience.
Simply put, give him time to gain experience and he’ll be fine. It’s easier to help a fast driver be more consistent than to get a slow driver to drive faster.
Also, having George, one of the best drivers on the grid (and, imo, one of the most impressive/standout drivers this season) as a potential future teammate would help him a lot.
He bounced back super quick too, outqualified Ollie in F2 about 90 minutes later (Edit: which after a 45G crash is God damn impressive)
The other Kimi was the same way in 2001-2002. Then he became one of the best drivers in the whole sport
@@artielikesthingsExactly. That confidence to just push the Merc to its limit is what helps win championships.
@@artielikesthingsOllie is pretty bad though. Amazes me how he even got a seat. He's got less than half the points Kimi has and simply is one of the worst drivers on the F2 grid.
At the same time multiple former F2 winners can't get a seat.
@@daarom3472genuine question: did you watch F2 last year? Because Bearman was one of the best rookies, and certainly not bad. The same goes for the rest of his junior career, up until this year. And on top of that, he’s done countless of tests, so Ferrari has a lot of data of his speed in F1 cars
No talk about the hot seats of both Mercedes, I have to say I was impressed with the Williams new kid, for someone who got stuck in the seat at a moments notice, he did really well to gradually ease himself into the seat, and build up speed, As for Antonelli, he's certainly fast though needs to calm down, and who knows maybe this will be a big lesson for him and will help him next season, as Toto's interview seem to suggest he will be the Mercedes driver next season.
Kimi definitely ran monza in the simulator a bunch and got used to how it felt when it's technically rubbered in and didn't account for the fact that monza's new tarmac hasn't fully been rubbered in yet. Remember the 2020 Turkish Grand Prix practice sessions when it looked like everyone was driving on a wet track when it was completely dry. It's a pretty similar situation and Kimi didn't realize he wouldn't have anywhere near the same grip as on the simulator. It's just crazy that Kimi was confident enough to send it a whole load faster than a majority of other drivers. It's better to be a fast driver that crashes occasionally rather than a slow driver that never crashes.
He got used to the assetto corsa fast instead of green 😭
Kimi's crash was at the same spot as the safety car crash btw
It was a bit further on in the corner but maybe the new surface at parabolica is causing some issues, yes
@@JG_3024The Safety car problem started prior to the corner
@@JG_3024 Safety car had a brake failure, hence bernd maylander trying to intitiate a drift to slow the car down
The safety car was testing if it was save to crash.
@@daphnelovesL no it was not
Antonelli's now officially been announced for 2025, so there you go.
I've never been on the edge of my seat in FP1 before, until now. From the moment the broadcast started, it was basically non-stop commentary and anticipation for Antonelli, all the way up until his crash. So much hype, so much expectation, and I just had this uneasy feeling right before the crash. Hope he can withstand all the coverage and keep his head on straight.
Gatt Malaga & Bomb Tellingham are my favorite DJ / MC duo.
A gun and an explosive?
Kimi is allowed mistakes, he sent it pretty hard off the rip and if he can bounce back from it I think it's just going to make him better
Yeah but you can’t deny that was about the absolute worst case scenario for his debut
@@scottmeredith3359 i mean, he couldve crashed into t1. from what i saw in the two laps he ran, he had pace and commitment, the kid looks fast, lets just give him time
@@scottmeredith3359 Vettel got a penalty less than 10 minutes in his debut because of speeding in the pitlane. After that, he bounced back so well. Kimi has shown that he has some pace, he now needs to bounce back in his second outing if given a chance
@@abrahamnyaranga865speed8ng in the pitlane due to a fault with a speed limiter and crashing full speed into parabolica are slightly different scenarios
@@Alucard-gt1zf My main focus there is the speed of both and bouncing back after their incidents.
Max was replacing Kvyat not a 7 time WDC theres much more pressure on kimi
I think it's more accurate to say George is replacing Lewis as he'll be the senior driver in that team now.
Thing is Mercedes don’t HAVE to rush his development they’ve more just chosen to. Sainz was available they could have signed Carlos to merc for a few years and let kimi develop more with less pressure in a Williams seat
The amount of cope for Kimi is insane. Even the commentators where trying to make light of the situation, when Kimi did the same thing that Logan did but one is got a seat and one lost it.
its weird to me how franco "does not have the cv to be a f1 driver" being that he did not only do (le mans and other categories)F4, F3 and a good season in F2 but Antonelli "has the cv to replace Hamilton" when he did not do F3 and has had a terrible F2 so far.
No F1 fans have apparently ever watched a sports or action movie. There's a formula to these things! The opening always has the protagonist failing, getting humbled, usually dressed down by someone. It's the first two parts of the 15 part story bible. We all know how it ends.
Maybe just maybe because this Is real life and not a bloody movie??
@@BigPapiChi Dang that hadn't occurred to me. 🙄
@@BigPapiChi i would like to introduce you to something called "sarcasm"
Hamilton and Russell are going to end up like a Turkey on Thanksgiving if Mercedes don't fix he overheating problem 😂
Specially at Singapore 💀
@@leandrociarrapico9256 and qatar (if its anything like last year)
European fans are like “what’s a thanksgiving?”
Russell*
@@LoganSergeantF1 auto correcter throwing
George "NOOOOOO, MY CAR"
I wouldn't put to much into Kimi crashing, any time a track gets repaved it's usually a wild ride for the first season. Having way more grip than previous seasons can definitely make things interesting. And if it rains the tracks turn into ice rinks .
But Kimi was the only one to crash.
@@Kornn66k mag also crashed
And don't forget about the safety car on Thursday
Defending such a massive fuck up is hilarious. You're inability to call it as it is, screams LH44 fan.
@@milo4ever I think it was a break failure and not driver failure unlike Kimi's crash.
Franco Colapinto P12 in the race! James knows something! VAMOS FRANCO!
You guys probably missed Max didn’t get to finish his fast lap on softs because of the red flag caused by Kevin Magnussen. His long run wasn’t bad at all.
> His long run wasn’t bad at all.
Had a fair amount of deg though.
It's amazing how all youtubers know to go into their reading advertisement voices so we know how long to space out for
Kimi was pushing too hard and cooked the rears, as he was 7kmph faster than Max through Parabolica and 14kmph faster through Ascari. But I think the consequences outweighed the error in this case. Cause many other drivers also made mistakes and had offs too (especially there), so whether or not everyone was driving past the limits of the new tarmac, I don't think you can pin the crash totally on just Kimi being inexperienced.
That could be down to a number of variables. Especially given it was only FP1
Hamilton cooked his rear as well 🤣
3:42 Tom spitting some bars
P1 riddim goes hard
Kimi is so fast and so good that he crashed. Incredible.
Let’s put it this way, even Mazapin didn’t crash in his first practice session….
Clearly isn’t mature enough and sent it before he knew the car
People need to finally admit that Redbull started struggling when the Horner controversy was at the forefront.
It was his first outing in an F1 car. That corner has claimed many many experienced drivers. If you are going to drive on the limit you have to cross it to find what the limit is. The question now is has he learned from it? And has it dented his confidence? Its those 2 things that will tell you if he is any good or not, and, while I am not suggesting he is as good, all I have to say is Max Verstapen
Usually you cross the line after you find out roughly where it is
Not 10 minutes after you've got into the car for the 1st time....
@@Alucard-gt1zf Have you ever driven a race car (and I dont mean on track days)
> It was his first outing in an F1 car.
His first outing in a CURRENT F1 car.
Kimi was 7 tenths up on Lewis’ last lap through 2 sectors, 1.5 seconds up on his own first lap before the crash. The dude was sending it on the limit the whole way. Love to see it.
If it was other driver u will be saying he needs to step down hahahhahaha btw bro is not doing good in f2
@@kraftwerk8077 he is doing extremely well in f2, prema are the ones doing a bad job. I'm saying this as someone who isn't even a fan of kimi.
@@kraftwerk8077 Completely subjective and situational based off the driver and their talent. If you’ve been watching f1 longer than a random DTS fanboy you’d know that young rookies tend to crash, a lot. But there’s a difference between crashing and being slow (sargeant) vs crashing and being fast (Verstappen/leclerc). Bro is doing pretty good in f2. 2 race winner, 7th in points and ahead of his teammate in a Prema that’s been less than stellar. Probably 6th in points if Kush didn’t punt him in turn 1 a few races back. I’d say as a freshly minted 18 year old who skipped f3 he’s performed more than acceptable for his age and experience. I’d rather watch young talent drive on the limit and learn from it than drive slow and fade into mediocrity.
@@kart3347How can you be a fan of Kimi as hes just a kid who try to get in F1? And he has been big disapointment in F2.
Bottas was 3rd the moment that Kimi crashed. The times that moment had no meaning. Kimi should have taken it easy and drive the whole hour and not crash like a noob.
And now Kimi has a seat at Mercedes 😂
Max used to crash all the time but it was on a Toro Rosso, not a Mercedes and YES it is too early for Kimi as it was too early for max but there wasn't too much of a pressure on Max back then !
'These gravel traps on these old school tracks' I hadn't realised Tommy was starting a career in rap 😆🤣
I like antonelli and I get why toto doesn’t want to lose him. But he needs more time in f2
As Palmer pointed out. There was no need, or sense going that quick so early. The grip was never going to be there
You can find the limit by building up slowly, or by going full beans right away, surpassing it, and then backing off until you hit the sweet spot. It's obvious that Kimi's not just stupid or showing off, he's doing the second approach, just like Max did when he was a rookie. Toto's unbothered response says it all: they are ok with Kimi starting out this way, as long as he learns from his mistakes and eventually becomes consistent.
Loving all these supportive Kimi comments, clearly a lot of wheel knowledge here. Really feel for the guy, only 18 and all that pressure. But he'll bounce back for sure, from the sounds of it he's got a great temperment and a great team around him.
The Autosport article spinning this as “his telemetry showed he was faster than any driver” is hilarious. Being out of control and crashing because “you’re faster than everyone else” is pretty freaking easy
Well he didn't crash in Lesmos 2 and Ascari did he... Carlos and Franco both had moments at parabolica too
Autosport were using Logan Sargeant as a ghost writer for that article!
I've got the data to prove that!! Look at my sim racing stats!!! Super fast!!! Always crash!!
Yeah and it was only on a second lap on softsas while everyone else was on mediums
Obviously he was quicker than everyone else doing setup laps lol
My opponent in iRacing when he yells at me for “not leaving space” when the only reason he’s along side is because he missed his breaking point.
Starting to think HAAS got the bargain of the century in Ollie Bearman. Antonelli obviously has nothing going on between the ears, other than swallowing up the hype.
Kimi will be fine. You HAVE to make mistakes to learn. Period. He has immense potential.
Watching this after Kimi was announced
Even Lewis and George say that car is on a knife edge. People need to chill. He’s a talent. He’ll be fine. You’d crash an F1 car on your first go too! 😂
But I am not going to be paid millions of dollars to drive an F1 car… and I wouldn’t crash it because either I wouldn’t drive it or I would crawl around the track at normal driving speeds.
A talent who is getting destroyed in f2
@@andrewhazlewood4569a F1 car just doesn't work at low speeds. You would have no grip whatsoever
@@thehpn1097 - You must know something the entire scouting team of Merc don’t… or, you know absolutely fuck all. Clown.🤡
@@thehpn1097 - Ever heard of something called ‘Learning?’ - that’s what Kimi’s doing. - You should give ‘thinking’ a try too, you might find it useful.
here after he got signed
fp1:
Kimi has a lot of talent, you can see that in what we saw on his driving, Toto's reaction to the crash, just shows that he isn't that bothered about it, so in my eyes, that means that he KNOWS the talent that he is going to sign
with regards to Red-bull, you can see that over the past few races, they have struggled - HARD, either somebody isn't doing their job properly or the team seem to have got, complacent, shall we say, at the fact that they were on top, so haven't developed as much as they should, OR, their focus is now on the 2026 car
fp2:
first off, Kmag's crash, from what i saw, he was pushing the car a little more than normal, but the rear couldn't hold on
with regard to Colapinto, the fact that he got so close to his teammate when Logan hasn't, just shows that EITHER Logan wasn't pushing the car to it's limit's, OR Colapinto has a LOT of talent and is showing it,
with regard to merc, to ONLY just beat a McLaren by 0.003 secs shows how close the fight is between them both, i can see a three, possibly four way fight in Abu Dhabi between Merc, McLaren, Red-bull and possibly Ferrari
with all the crashes that have happened so far this weekend, it shows that when new tarmac is laid down, it takes a while for any grip to form, it's an amazing track and has had some brilliant races in the past, i hope it remains on the calendar for a long time
my question for MATT is: given that Hamilton is going to Ferrari next year, and given their current performance, do you think he will win any WDC's?
One element is the track have been resurfaced and slippery. The track will be totally different tomorrow with much more rubber in.
Kimi has been lighting up fastest laps at sim tracks with impressive aggression. Watch this Kid go.
I'm pretty sure Mercedes told him to send it. I was actually really surprised by not just how much curb he was taking but the precision with which he was taking it. If anything, it just makes me think even more that this kid will be an incredible talent in F1. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone crashes now and then. He will learn from this and only get better.
Once Antonelli blames Alonso for the crash, his George Russell style training will be complete 😊
LOL
There’s a reason max was called Max Crashtappen to begin with. These guys have to find the limit. I don’t think he needs to feel any pressure, either he’s good or he isn’t and Mercedes say he’s good, I don’t think they mind a crash today.
One thing with the driver's views on the kerbs is that I feel like there's a lot of complaints or maybe just comments on that these cars can never attack the kerbs and having to focus on avoiding them a lot and now they have changed something so they can take the kerbs and not fly off but they are unhappy, I feel like there is a tiny bit of hypocrisy with it, but that's just me. I hope it makes the racing better and that's what matters the most to me.
Put Alex next to George, he deserves the top seat for a couple of years. Then develop Kimmy at Williams.
One of these intros will have them alternate syllables and it will be absolute chaos
Well he started with a bang ......
Bottas or Vettel to Merc if Kimi ISNT ready
I mean kid was on the pace the first lap I think he'll be fine
Everyone was sliding on the fresh pave.
Why was the Mercedes run plan to immediately send the rookie out on softs to do quali sims? Why on earth did they start with that? The crash was his mistake but they kinda set him up to fail imo. Why not start with a medium run to get him up to speed?
Everyone is defending kimi here, but you don’t crash on your first session, let alone first few laps. This was supposed to show his capabilities
this could be his first session in f1 but he did several private tests for Mercedes in older cars that's how they knew he was good
Get in that car and then yap, Borings. 😂
What about Georgie’s car. That’s gotta hurt. Breaking George’s car. 🚗
0:32 Gyatt Mallagher
RedBull's wing reminds me of the Nighthawk's wing outline. It probably creates downforce from yaw without the drag in the straights. 🤷♂️
This is the warning signal to Colapinto, don't rush, steady is the king.
Lots of drivers were losing grip and leaving the track. One lost it during a killer lap at full send. I for one am ready for more Kimi.
Even the safety car lost it there!
Kimi the new Max 😂
New crashmilton
@@PolytopiagodCrashstappen has had 2 more retirements in 8 less seasons
@@rhensnWhen you reduce it to retirements due to crash rather than engine, Max has almost double.
Crashnelli😂
@@rhensn max has 50 race wins since 21 💀💀💀 how much has lulu carmilton since 21???????
Antonelli binned it after 2 laps lol
Actually not even 2,since he didn't finished the 2nd lap lol
If Antonelli had finished the session 6 seconds off of Hamilton, people would have said "yeah but he still has so much to learn, no problem it takes time", but as soon as he crashes people goes "oh he's not ready, he's too young, he doesn't deserve that seat, etc..."
People would have said he didn't deserve it in literally every situation because he's basically going up again Sainz
How many other SEASONED F1 VETS also had problems today?
So many spins, lockups, and avoided disasters today..
First the Safety Car becoming a "Not-So Safe(ty) Car", then Kimi on Lap 2, and then chaos.
Give him time.
And Colopinto was cooking with so little time in the car.
BUT, I have the same thoughts of him, as Kimi.
One had a FANTASTIC day, the other didn't.
Let's see how this unfolds!!
I love the beginnings 😂😂
Only saw FP1, but you could tell how hard Max had to wrestle that car.
tommy with the upsidown glasses saying 'in' made me laugh way more than it should've
I can’t believe I’m saying this because I love Williams and loathe Mercedes lol but Alex should get the seat against George and with Williams signing Carlos, having Kimi in a Williams for a couple of years makes more sense at this point. They are rushing him.
I'm not sure about this whole idea that 'it's too early for him', surely the best way for him to develop and prepare for f1 is to be in f1. So long as he has a stable and supportive team behind him, which he clearly does with what Toto has been saying, then surely it's the best situation for him. Merc have the financial backing that few teams come even close to, and they clearly are ready for Kimi to be a work in progress for the next couple years, so I don't see the issue.
I agree, start developing Antonelli, but talking about him taking Lewis' seat for 2025 is jumping the gun big time. Give the kid a huge break. I really hope he overcomes all of this pressure and has a solid career. But, calling him a future champion is nuts.
The safety car crashed in memory of Logan Sergeant and needed something to do.
Regarding the question posted by @MEGAVSPRIMUS: "Do you think Colapinto has a lot of pressure on his shoulders?"
To complete the context, we can also consider another perspective, observed from his own country and told by Juan, a reporter from the Argentine Star Sports F1 team, who spoke to Australian F1 photographer Kym Illman at 7:33 of a video posted by Illlman on his RUclips page titled "F1 safety car CRASHES at the ITALIAN GP!"
Kimis clearly talented and I wouldn’t make too much out of the crash as they’re very common at parabolica just hope it doesn’t knock him too much
All good drivers still have crashes. It's how they LEARN from that. I still want Kimi to get the Merc seat. Maybe having being the first race at Monza, as the first Italian F1 driver for years, was a bit much, especially the 3-deep press outside his garage. You can be he'll learn from that. Go Kimi, and best wishes to Franco.
"He went straight out here. " Matt
- yep he did, in a corner.
"He wanted to make an impression. " Tommy
- he did, on the wall.
@@LednacekZ
Lmao
Lesson number one: bring the car home! Hmmm…
2nd order effect of cost cap era. Rookies are incentivized to drive slowly.
You can't say off one crash whether it's too early for Kimi; yes you can say he should have driven more within his limits but i guarantee Mercedes don't want a driver who will race within their limits. They will want a driver who pushes their limits as far as they can. So I hope he gets more time in the car to settle into it and build his confidence up.
If he starts crashing every week then yeah, there's an issue there.
There'll always be pressure, you have to throw the driver in and see if he can withstand the pressure. There's no toher way to find out.
there is only one kimi lets top calling this guy kimi
Toto: Sign Bottas right now for 2025. Let that young kid continue to marinate in F2 for another year. He's not mature enough.
please add tyre compounds in the timing sheets 🙏
Verstappen was Crashstappen for years before he became a champion, so there is time
Seems like teams are clueless about managing drivers. High profile rookie debuts at his home race! So many options to reduce the pressure were passed up.
Said it on multiple occasions that Antonelli is not ready for F1. Now, i understand that its his first practice and he needs to build up experience, but throwing him in the deep end with that much pressure is inappropriate. (On a side note, Matt made a good point - Antonelli has just turned 18 - didn't Max's career essentially make the FIA change the age rules, so its the earliest possible chance Antonelli has in the car?)
However, unless the FIA change the rules regarding 3rd cars (for young drivers/female drivers) it is very good to see that Mercedes are giving a young driver a chance, its just i don't think he is ready
Antonelli did a good job in F2 after his high G crash. Seems like the real deal in terms of speed and aggression, just needs to balance the other aspects
Kimi foolishly made his 2nd push lap a Quali lap and paid the price.
honestly going all out on his first hot lap is big dick energy if I’ve ever seen it
easy there fella. the guy has barely reached the age of consent. keep it in your pants.
Tommy said "in" exceedingly well.
Needed to clip on the vid because the exact same headline was in 2001 with Kimi 😂 But honestly I think it won’t be bad for Kimi another year in f2 or being reserve for a year like Piastri it’s a lot of pressure after all already on him and his hype and being at a top team from debut is not helping either… it’s difficult I think even for Tot and merc the decision is extremely difficult to make
I mean Kimi got used to driving the W11, the old regulation cars didn't have such delicate rear grip
Could you imagine if that 1 lap was the fastest of the day? That would be epic!😊
You can't blame the kid or the team, even the safety car fell off the new track that lacks rubber build up, half the field missed or fell off the corners all the time, that new track has zero grip yet.
MAX did attempt a fast lap. The only reason he didn't complete his fast lap was because of a mistake.
This will be dramatic, but as much as I believe Kimi’s crash is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things (I still believe he’s very talented and this doesn’t change anything, it’s a tough track and he’s under lots of pressure), let’s not act like these drivers aren’t risking their lives out there every time they go racing. I just hope to God they know what they’re doing with this kid, I hope he’s pushing because of confidence and not because of external pressure.
Kimi Crashtonelli
Therecis the name.
I'm with Matt this time 😎☝️