Installing A Shower Valve with Great Flow Rate
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2022
- In this video I'm turning my 2 piece bathroom into a 3 piece. This is involves plumbing, electrical and mechanical rough-in. It also means I have to pass my code inspection. Buckle up. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. Copper and PEX pipe cutters: geni.us/aWB9ka (Amazon)
Do you have a powder room or small bathroom that you want to add a shower to? Today I will show you how to turn your half bath into a full bathroom. Cheers!
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As if I were an apprentice journeyman, it feels like learning the ropes all over again. I enjoy watching your videos. Bob Vila eat your heart out...
Cheers My Friend!
I love that you show when you make a mistake and how to fix it. If you're making mistakes, I definitely would, so that info is very valuable to have!
Glad it was helpful!
I've watched so many of these videos now "know the end from the beginning" is my motto. I've watched the video starting from the end and finishing at the beginning.
Just ripped out all the old galv water lines in our house this weekend and replaced with PEX... really appreciate the DIY videos that got me started on that journey
3/4 of my home building planning is your channel. Can't thank you enough. Got my zoning, building codes, and RenoVision DIY and could not be more excited. Now if my knees were equally happy... 😁
I think this is your best series yet, very helpful. I'm planning on expanding my bathroom (luckily it's all done, it was just built with vanity outside the walled-in area, so I just need to frame it out) but all of the considerations you're making are just a great reference. Cheers and looking forward to the next one.
Cheers!
Never more impressed with your improv skills than when you trimmed that pvc with a homemade cutter! I had to rewind 3 times - I think you ground two sharp edges on a drywall screw, chucked it in your drill, and used it like an end mill. Very impressive.
Absolutely love your videos. Straight to the point. Many thanks.
love all ur vids and this series is great! I would love to see a vid of the inspector checking it out if they’re okay with it being recorded. I’m curious to see what type of things they’re looking for. Thanks for all the help!
There really is nobody better than you to follow for remodeling tips. Fantastic work!
Cheers!
Thank you man you always make things simple..👍👍
Another great video. Thanks Jeff. Cheers.
I love watching your videos on anything I’m working on. Good calm voice and easy to follow steps. I’m thinking about starting a channel on auto repair/auto body and was curious if you carry media insurance? I heard somewhere that you should have it in case someone sued.
A Jack of all trades is a master of none, but often times better than a master of one.
You come to this channel you see it all!
You may not have the newest tools, wear any safety equipment and will def get pissed and frustrated. You’re one of us, thats what separates you from other channels. When you’re getting pissed at your son, we get that !! Lol
I appreciate the knowledge, but love the authenticity.
Cheers . just keeping it real as I can!
Nice trick at 16:54 for drilling in a screw at an angle along a 2 x 4! Grazie!
I have yet to use a pocket hole jig in my entire career! Cheers!
Thanks Jeff - Another fantastic video !
Glad you enjoyed it
I'd have gone the "pound it in" method. I had my pipe a little taller than yours and it still leaked through the gasket. I had to recut, put a coupling, and attach a new taller pipe. Then I finished with silicone where the pipe meets the gasket, and tightened up as best I could. No leaks after that.
Great video!!! Lots of useful information!
Another great detail video. Loving it🧡
Thank you! Cheers!
You can push the rubber compression ring down with a flat head screwdriver. I used to make and install shower pans.
it is amazing that the Constuction industry has developed from custom work, hand sawing planks of cedar to make window frames and ornate oak doors, plasterers skilled in cement-based finishing, pipe fitters who solder metals to "Lego" in less than 50 years. The building code has a lot to do with this change and by following "the code", stuff just magically goes together. 16" OC framing, OSB with grid lines for nailing, drywall with ready mix material that lets you work as your own pace, plastic pipes installed with a single tool....any old yahoo with a toolbelt and a tape measure can do it!
As he shakes his head at the fan duct installation....Doesn't mean you can do it right! Those original turn of the century homes are very well constructed by skilled carpenters, well until the "plumber" hacked all the floor joists to bits, "uncle Jimmy" did some creative wiring in the kitchen addition and someone "installed" the fart fan ductwork without a vent....This is the reason for building inspectors (regardless if you love or hate them).
Incredible
Lots of great take aways for me as I head back into my guest bathroom remodel. I didn't see him de-burr the inside of the black PVC in the shower pan after he used his fancy tool to cut off the bit to make the rubber gasket fit.
good point. gonna be a hair trap but easily accessible. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY And of course the cut rim is so near the surface that could be de-burred easily enough. As I do the rough plumbing this de-burring idea you raised was a good reminder.
Nice move!
Thanks🙏💖
You make that look easy!! But that is experience
And a little bit of not that hard as well. Cheers!
From a tall man. Thank you for the height consideration of the shower head.
seems obvious to mee water falls down and finds the short folks as well. Cheers!
As someone that's 6ft5 thank you thank you thank you for thinking about taller people when installing the shower! Having to bend over to wash your hair every day gets old very fast.
Cheers!
Jeff, why don't you get into Pex type A so you can simply use a cordless expansion tool? Just curious.
Good job
Good explanation
Can i used for outside pex and under slub pex ?
That shower drain gasket looked a little funky after you were "done" -- surprised if that passes inspection. Otherwise, great vid as always sir.
This is the newest of yours I could find(god I need bifocals). Moving nextdoor into a trailer(rent free) followed your videos tiled the shower and bathroom floor and with grout. Turned out great! Thank You. Now she wants A vapor barrier down in the bedroom and hall then wood flooring overtop. How?I want to make it a floating floor. Do I use nails , screws or what?
the diy inside pipe cutter blew my mind lol
Actually saw this done IRL to repair a broken PVC pipe at the shower basin.
Hi Jeff I love your stuff. Can you give me some advice? I've got a "cultured marble" shower surround. It's structurally sound but yellowed from the sun. The shower pan is cracked. I'd like to replace the shower pan and cover the marble with a shower enclosure kit. Would it be prudent to rip out the current shower to the studs and start all new or replace the shower pan and cover the marble?
a little dish washing liquid on the rubber gasket makes it slide over the pipe without crumbling.
Or fluorinated lube like Krytox. Also protects the rubber for years.
Oatey's instructions recommend "chamfering" the outer edge of the drain pipe so you aren't fighting the sharp corner.
Hey Jeff, I'm building a house in Florida. Ready to install the shower pans and watching your video I see that you put sand mix directly over the sub-floor. I was thinking of putting a roof coating then the sand mix. what are your thoughts on doing this. Thank you love your channel, Skip🏡
I wonder if a Dremel could be used instead to shorten that pipe. A silver sharpie can be handy for black piping. :)
I noticed on another video that you used pex b instead of pex a when you installed a shower system? I was told that pex a allows for better water flow while pex b can restrict it? Does it really make that much of a difference? I’m going to install a new shower system real soon and I watched one of your videos on using pex b and you made it look easy. I enjoy watching your videos and find them very helpful. You saved me a fortune so far. Then just yesterday I watched another video on using pex a. I want good pressure I’m hoping it doesn’t matter, I value your opinion
Do you have a video on a full 12”x12” tile bathroom floor and walls?
Ive seen you mainly use PEX B with copper crimp rings and shark bite in certain situations. What's your thoughts on PEX A? Cost wise probably biggest expense is the tool. I guess most people say they get better flow, connection and less chance to burst? since PEX B fittings semi restrict flow?
Another great video
What model drywall bits are
You using in your rotozip?
rotozip bits. 1/8th diameter
Me the day before I finish my pex with elbows bought based on Jeff's previous videos. ~~This video~~ "I don't use those POS 90s anymore because TURBULENCE." 🙈
renovation is just like being a doctor. we are always learning and getting better at what we do.
Could You do a video on removing wallpaper that has been painted over? Maybe multiple layers of paint and wallpaper .
Yes please! I have a room that I want to refurbish but I’m afraid to take the wallpaper off and destroy the wall.
@homerenovisiondiy
Plumbers are complaini NJ about homeowners using pex b with crimp on fittings since it reduces the Inner diameter. Have you seen issues with using it? Should we switch to expanding connectors instead? Pex A or 3/4 PEX B instead?
Sir, can you explain the difference between 8:00 and 11:30. What’s the difference with the different setup/approach when dealing with 90 degree. Thank you in advance
3:39 " Because you can't splice a wire here in the ceiling " - Yes - Electrical Code says a junction box can not be covered over with dry wall . A floating ceiling is OK - but not drywall .
This is gold. Thank u.
I am surprised they did not put the exhaust fan vent into the vent stack
what kind of saw did you use? where can I get?
Solid brass rings vs pinch clamps for PEX connections? What do you say? I've seen the pinch clamps for automotive use, never seen them for outdoor/ irrigation.
I like the pinch clamps because they are easy to get to in tight spots. I like that they are stainless. I don't think there was a price difference when I was buying a bunch last year.. the pinch tool may be cheaper to buy and one tool does both 1/2 and 3/4 (without the wider space taken up by the 3/4 on the combo tool for the rings)
One commenter said that his pinch clamps survived a freeze while his rings leaked. I can see the clamps having some spring to them, where the rings just strech/ deform.
Is that the special glue that doesn’t need primer?
How much pressure do you need for a regular
Where da copper go eh? Can't find any anywhere !!! So gotta go pex.... thanks for this vid!
supply chain issues. since we extract less and less in north america we are reliant on foreign countries to supply our materials and China is still in lockdown in many regions.
I know you said not to use drywall screws due to the lack of shear strength - What type of screws are you using??
Pex crimp fittings provide more restriction than pex-a and copper.
Jeff is a wizard teaching you all the stuff one might need. I probably grew more braincells on this channel than I ever did in school, haha.
Everytime the scene switch his head got more drywall on it. Lol
Have you thought of using Pex -A ?
Is the pex pba free?
33:00 i think code in lots of place for shower is 2 inch drain... tub is 1.5
maybe but not where I live! Cheers!
Great video!
For a walk in shower how high should the control valve be placed? I was recently watching videos on converting 1/2" copper to Pex and some were saying to increase the pex to 3/4" bc of flow but I like what you said in one of your videos about the orifice in the valve is smaller than the 1/2" pex I.D. so 1/2" pex would be fine.
The flow impediment is mainly in the elbows so if you can run pex and sweep like he shows instead of having a bunch of 90s then half inch is no issue at all. Usually fine anyway but the fact that pex allows you to avoid a lot of extra fittings makes things even better
I only see one roll of white PEX. Is that 1/2"? Assuming this PEX run connects back to a 3/4" female copper sweat adapter?
in this case since it is only temporary I used 1/2" pex and ran it right off a 1/2" copper line.
Make your live easier by watering your rubber parts. This will lubricate your parts so much easier to assemble.
If the drain / p-trap is visible in the basement, could I install the shower pan before inspection then?
If it was installed before you start then yes. it would already have been inspected as a rough in. if you ran new plumbing then no. Cheers!
what is show valve model?
What's the long Phillips bit you put in your impact drill?
likely Robertson since Canada and he is not easily camming out of the screws.
Jeff, do you use ABS (opposed to PVC) because of local code or personal preference?
ABS is the standard for residential construction in Canada; he's in Ottawa. I like it because there is no requirement for primer and the glue doesn't melt your brain every time you open the can. There is DWV solid wall and Cellular core for venting it's light and easy to cut. Many still use primer on new construction to ensure they pass the drain air pressure test.
Great flow rate, use pex A
I see you use Pex-B why that over Pex -A as it has a bigger inside diameter at the fitting?
I teach what I expect folks to be able to afford. The $400.00 tool for pex b is not affordable for most home renovators.
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The man has a serious aversion to safety glasses
hardly ever need them.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY cutting drywall above your head, using angle grinder on a screw…just 2 instances in this video alone. Also mask for drywall
Don't the fittings that go inside the pipe restrict the flow?
They do, which is a problem on 1/2" if youre feeding alot of fixtures, wont be a problem for a single bathroom. With 3/4" even with internal fitting barbs it still has a ton of volume capacity. Long story short, use 3/4", its the same price basically
Yup. The diameter reduction at the barb on half-inch Pex B fittings is almost comical. That's why people like to use expansion Pex. No
Also, expansion Pex would have made that turn at the junction earlier in the video. He wouldn't have had to use a 90.
for showers 1/2 " pex is fine. remember the valve has the smallest holes and will restrict the water no matter how much supply you bring.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Good point. For showers you can sacrifice flow rate for pressure.
🤙 celebrate wins 9:05
Him: you can't splice a wire in the attic
Me: 🙄 not according to the 💩 i run in to all the time 😒
Actually, you can in an attic. That is considered accessible. Inside a ceiling is a big no-no though. Unless it is a drop ceiling. Then it's accessible again.
Gotta love code.
or if the junction can be seen from a slim pot light that can be removed.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I agree with both of the above replies. But i was commenting on the crappy work that i run in to while doing carpentry and home renos. But I will also be more mindful of using shorter screws while installing cabinets...
I never heard that Pex pinch rings shouldn't be used inside a wall before. A quick google search didn't confirm or deny that statement by Jeff. Anyone else have further insight into that??
just experience talking. pinch rings have a much higher failure rate post completion than solid rings. I have seen too many failures to even consider using it again.
Well that ended abruptly. You didn't even get to the part of plugging the drop ear to pressure test.
I like a little drama. Cheers!
Sopranos ending
You would have better flow with pro pex fittings and Pex A instead of pex B
Dang i was waiting for you to get wet. LOL too funny
Why are you using ABS and not PVC?
Like most things in construction it's probably either code related or personal preference
It's what's used here in our marketplace of Ottawa, Canada. You almost never see PVC drain lines North of the border. Also, you don't need to use a primer with ABS ;)
No safety glasses?
11:05 Had you sent that pipe through the stud a few inches higher you'd been been able to bend it and avoid the 90 fitting.
Yeah, I know; me and my perfect hindsight 😂
I don't like running water lines that high. too many folks putting holes in the wall to hang things later.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Fair enough.
Jeff - I am preparing to rip out a 32 inch molded shower and install a 42 or 48 inch shower. I've been watching your invaluable videos but I have an enormous question I need to ask. A question that you will either roll your eyes at or you'll say, "that's excellent out of the box thinking." Do you have an email that I can lay out my idea to you?
I cringe when you cut drywall without any type of PPE…
I cringe when people cringe!
If I am not mistaken, you were saying that you pay $9000 for 3 month insurance on the property. What is about , if you just sign a contract with one or two of your millions sons to be a security guard for the property? They do not need occupancy permit to work there and they save money on rent else where