Singers are Ministers as well. A little waiting on the Lord could have revealed that this great song does not suit an open air crusade which had in audience many expecting the miraculous intervention of the Almighty GOD. All praises to our GOD who can do all things.
I was just imagining if I were to be the preacher after a lot of preparation, fasting, prayers and trusting God's promises and the Choir now came up to sing this kind song before coming up to preach not teach oooo preach ahhh it's well
This is the work of a Shepherd, God set the choir up so that He could teach the people about faith. Shepherd is 100% correct. He that had an ear let him hear.
When God corrects, His true children obey. Only hardened hearts defend errors that God has sent His servants to correct. Let's heed the message preached immediately after this correction. Let faith arise in our hearts; Let our hearts be softened to obey God's Word and heed His corrections. Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. This should be our response to God's Word. Amen
3-fold ministry of Jesus: Save the sinner; healing the sick; delivering d oppressed. Any "but" added to professed faith in God is a route for unbelieve. People need the Lord in every sphere. Hence Singers aa Ministers must position and uplift people in faith to receive from God.
This submission is totally different from the message. The song is all about who God is, His personality. He is God whether He does a miracle or not. The message addresses those who pray to God without the mindset that they will receive answer to their prayer. It is not about any correction at all. The song is good, the message is perfect. The two address different scenarios.
He did it because he was moved to do it Compassion is one of the qualities of God If he didn't do them those people would have doubted him as much as God is God Jesus seeing our stubbornness decided to bring himself down to our level of understanding stupidity and do those miracles so that hope can be revived in our hopeless lifes
Absolute faith is key.. Moses believed God as I am that I am at the burning bush encountered...".without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him".
Well,i agree with the pastor. When you have faith in God,there shouldn't be but. This shows that you're doubting God's ability and capability when you add but.
The reason for the miracle was for the doubting minds to always know that he is God To save those people so that the will preach about the Good thing God has done for them that will bring more souls to the kingdom
well, the lyrics of the song is not outrightly wrong, i think the G.S is trying to align the song to suit the topic of his message, whethear miracle happen or not he will still be God. but as for that crusade and in our lives we need miracles to happen in Jesus name.
Very important to align the audience on the Almighty faithfulness of God to do all things....its vital to align our songs with messages by uplifting and positioning the peoole's faith to receive from God.
i think i concur with his stance, however, can someone comment on Daniel 3: 16 (see excerpt below, emphasis in capslock is mine pls & i stand to be corrected) 16. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. 17If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us c from Your Majesty’s hand. 18. BUT EVEN IF HE DOES NOT, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”
The song resonates deeply with me because it speaks profound truth. It never casts doubt on the "WORD" of God. With all due respect, Pastor Kumuyi seems to be introducing a different perspective. Whether Pastor Kumuyi agrees or not, God is indeed capable of all things, but that does not mean He will do everything. Even though our faith in God's omnipotence is unwavering, it’s important to understand that He may choose not to act in every situation, and yet, He remains God. This is a crucial distinction from the idea that God might fail to fulfill His promises. There is a difference between what God says and what we expect from Him. The truth that Pastor Kumuyi should recognize in this song is that it's not about "what He does," but rather "who He is." In fact, the stanza about Mary highlights the songwriter's strong belief in the word of God. The song points out that Mary believed the word delivered by the angel, so even if people hadn’t witnessed signs from Him, Jesus was still God. Additionally, despite the many miracles Jesus performed among the Jews, they still didn’t believe. The Bible says that because of their unbelief, Jesus ceased performing miracles among them, but this did not diminish His divinity. I believe Pastor Kumuyi's concern may have been more about energizing the congregation with the idea of miracles, rather than focusing on the deeper truth of who God is. To be honest, this is the most powerful gospel song I have ever encountered within any denomination.
That song was a wrong choice for a programmed tagged ' possibilities of faith.' the song was suppose to activate the faith of the people to receive their miracles, not to comfort them . A wave of unbelief has been projected through that song, Thank God the man of god was sensitive enough in the spirit to counter that through the word of God.
My deduction is the need for believers to serve God for he is God and not for the miracles and blessings alone. Our God assuredly answers prayer according to His perfect will for us.
@@PastorChildren the song did not cast doubt about God's word, the song implies that our coming to God must not be about what we want from Him, but about Who God is. Don't cast the writer because of what Kumuyi said. Look at the song in the light of the scripture. I believe Believers should come to God for who He is, not for miracle. God will do miracles when you least expect it, not when you most expect it!
In music lyrics could be modified to suit what message they wanted to pass across, which they would have done to the Music or change the song entirely... Deeper life Choir by now I believe they should be doing better. They have good rudiment of musical foundation but are still failing with choices of songs...It is well God is still God miracle or not. My 2 Kobo.
What a great revelation from the man of God. I think we have better revelation and understanding about God than the old and new testament men and women
Yes. Some pastors only flow with the music and not lyrics. Next time the Choir will be careful with lyrics. Pastor Kumuyi is a shepherd indeed, concerned about what his sheep is fed with.
Dear blogger. The pastor 's comment is totally parallel to the message of the lyrics. The song is saying that the supremacy of God is not dependent on whether or not He performed miracle. God is God in all situation or circumstances. Your insinuation is not relevant at all. Thanks
This was a crusade, there were many people with diverse infirmities, do u know the discouragement it'll bring to them? Pastor had to counter them so they don't feel discouraged
The lyrics of the song would have killed some faith. Look at it this way, here is a challenge that only praying through would solve. You now heard this song then you prayed and nothing happened then you conclude that God will do it if he wants and he is God even if he doesn't do it. This conclusion doesn't change who God is. PUSH- Pray Until Something Happens.@@donkellyyong2886
What makes God God is because of his work.. you waking up everyday is God's work... The sky not falling on you is also God's work... Everything you see is God's work .. God works every time....
I don't think it's a correction per say They didn't compose the song (if otherwise, I stand corrected) From the message, the comment was to address a certain mindset of faithlessness where a prayer is made with failure in mind to cushion their beliefs if an answer isn't received Otherwise it will be strange that they chose a music that would bring criticism from the pastor in his message Then again it could be that he noticed it and saw he could apply it in the message. Goes to show how well experienced and led he is with the things of God In all things, God gets the glory It was a wonderful ministration followed by a wonderful message
Then when there is a clash in the spirit,eg if someone among the choir members or leaders is not living right or is fleshly and carnal,or when there's division among choir, most of what they do will be misunderstood and rebuked..av seen it happen before
@@deeperlifefamily you see, I believe you said this because Kumuyi said the song was wrong, If kumuyi had said the song was right, you would have said, "Yes" the choir are holy and spiritual. What does the bible say about this song. check your scripture, not your pastor
My Daughter's school usually demands them to listen to GCK monthly, I will have to inoculate her against this kumuyi thought, i personally believe, in the light of the scriptures, that kumuyi thought on this is not biblical. please don't tear me apart cause I said his thought on the song is not biblical, Kumuyi is not God, He is not Jesus and thus, He does not have full revelation of God. We are all learning to grow
@@deeperlifefamily truth is not a potentiometer, not a line, it's a spot, you are either there or not, it is absolute. I know how much people's life have been damaged while chasing miracle rather than leaning on God's word
If HE did it in Bible days & we proclaim it, what if doesn't do it in our days, how will the world interpret it? They will say HE is a lier. Some will say the days of miracles, signs & wonders is passed. How then shall we prove that HE is the same yesterday, today & forever? Quite unfortunately, no one through their several weeks of rehearsal thought straight to align with the theme of the program, "The Possibility of Faith". The Lord will help us
you are right in away, but also about Apostle Paul's life. 2Co 12:7And because of the transcendence of the revelations, in order that I might not be exceedingly lifted up, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, that he might buffet me, in order that I might not be exceedingly lifted up. 2Co 12:8Concerning this I entreated the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 2Co 12:9And He has said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is perfected in weakness. Most gladly therefore I will rather boast in my weaknesses that the power of Christ might tabernacle over me. 2Co 12:10Therefore I am well pleased in weaknesses, in insults, in necessities, in persecutions and distresses, on behalf of Christ; for when I am weak, then I am powerful. Paul expected God's healing, God instead supplied grace to Him to bear it, rather than taking it away This is what is called faith Jn 20:29Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.
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Singers are Ministers as well. A little waiting on the Lord could have revealed that this great song does not suit an open air crusade which had in audience many expecting the miraculous intervention of the Almighty GOD.
All praises to our GOD who can do all things.
Exactly our thoughts too.
I said this too!!!
How on earth would you sing this in an atmosphere where people have expectations to receive miracles.
@@Favourkatie May God help His church. It is well.
I was just imagining if I were to be the preacher after a lot of preparation, fasting, prayers and trusting God's promises and the Choir now came up to sing this kind song before coming up to preach not teach oooo preach ahhh it's well
God bless you
Pastor is telling us what real faith means,even when we are dieing we need to believe that we shall not die
That's right.
Pastor is right. When one is exercising faith, there's only one choice, that is the accomplishment of our expectation.
Exactly
Pastor is only taking us to higher realm of faith, that God cannot lie, He cannot fail. He backs up His word
True
This is the work of a Shepherd, God set the choir up so that He could teach the people about faith. Shepherd is 100% correct. He that had an ear let him hear.
That's right.
A whole revelation... If the choir master is gifted, he can make great song from Pastor's correction
Absolutely
When God corrects, His true children obey. Only hardened hearts defend errors that God has sent His servants to correct.
Let's heed the message preached immediately after this correction.
Let faith arise in our hearts;
Let our hearts be softened to obey God's Word and heed His corrections.
Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
This should be our response to God's Word.
Amen
Exactly
Exactly sir, thank you sir, I will remain obedient and submissive to the teachings and corrections of the man of God pastor Dr W F Kumuyi
3-fold ministry of Jesus: Save the sinner; healing the sick; delivering d oppressed. Any "but" added to professed faith in God is a route for unbelieve. People need the Lord in every sphere. Hence Singers aa Ministers must position and uplift people in faith to receive from God.
Hmm
Correct
I'm bless by this great word, may the Lord give his servant the grace of long live and divine strength amen
Amen
Amen
God bless you sir.
Amen.
This submission is totally different from the message. The song is all about who God is, His personality.
He is God whether He does a miracle or not.
The message addresses those who pray to God without the mindset that they will receive answer to their prayer.
It is not about any correction at all. The song is good, the message is perfect. The two address different scenarios.
Ok
Perfect
God bless you my brother... Exactly what I'm about to type... You've said it all
Exactly
You totally miss the message of the song. It's completely off faith platform.
Listen and take to divine correction
I have made this mistake in mine prayer. Thank God for this message
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He did it because he was moved to do it
Compassion is one of the qualities of God
If he didn't do them those people would have doubted him as much as God is God
Jesus seeing our stubbornness decided to bring himself down to our level of understanding stupidity and do those miracles so that hope can be revived in our hopeless lifes
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God bless His servant
Amen.
Faith is a substance of thing hoped for.
Yeah
Correct
Wrong song for a miracle service. It comes to a point in your walk with God when you know God will do it. No other option.
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Absolute faith is key.. Moses believed God as I am that I am at the burning bush encountered...".without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him".
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Correct
Choristers are meant to help both the preacher's and the congregation's faith.
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Great explanation and correction, GOD bless you pastor.
Amen
God is not raising a timid church.
We must know the Lord our God, we are made for exploits.
Oh yes!
Well,i agree with the pastor. When you have faith in God,there shouldn't be but. This shows that you're doubting God's ability and capability when you add but.
Well said
Correct
God bless you
The reason for the miracle was for the doubting minds to always know that he is God
To save those people so that the will preach about the Good thing God has done for them that will bring more souls to the kingdom
well, the lyrics of the song is not outrightly wrong, i think the G.S is trying to align the song to suit the topic of his message, whethear miracle happen or not he will still be God. but as for that crusade and in our lives we need miracles to happen in Jesus name.
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Very important to align the audience on the Almighty faithfulness of God to do all things....its vital to align our songs with messages by uplifting and positioning the peoole's faith to receive from God.
Yes you are right, I agree with you totally
i think i concur with his stance, however, can someone comment on Daniel 3: 16 (see excerpt below, emphasis in capslock is mine pls & i stand to be corrected)
16. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego replied to him, “King Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter. 17If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to deliver us from it, and he will deliver us c from Your Majesty’s hand. 18. BUT EVEN IF HE DOES NOT, we want you to know, Your Majesty, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”
Hmmm
The song is contextual... God is God, it's not conditional... like Jesus didn't turn stone to bread bc Satan said if you're the Son of God...
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The song resonates deeply with me because it speaks profound truth. It never casts doubt on the "WORD" of God. With all due respect, Pastor Kumuyi seems to be introducing a different perspective. Whether Pastor Kumuyi agrees or not, God is indeed capable of all things, but that does not mean He will do everything. Even though our faith in God's omnipotence is unwavering, it’s important to understand that He may choose not to act in every situation, and yet, He remains God. This is a crucial distinction from the idea that God might fail to fulfill His promises. There is a difference between what God says and what we expect from Him. The truth that Pastor Kumuyi should recognize in this song is that it's not about "what He does," but rather "who He is."
In fact, the stanza about Mary highlights the songwriter's strong belief in the word of God. The song points out that Mary believed the word delivered by the angel, so even if people hadn’t witnessed signs from Him, Jesus was still God. Additionally, despite the many miracles Jesus performed among the Jews, they still didn’t believe. The Bible says that because of their unbelief, Jesus ceased performing miracles among them, but this did not diminish His divinity.
I believe Pastor Kumuyi's concern may have been more about energizing the congregation with the idea of miracles, rather than focusing on the deeper truth of who God is. To be honest, this is the most powerful gospel song I have ever encountered within any denomination.
Hmm
That song was a wrong choice for a programmed tagged ' possibilities of faith.' the song was suppose to activate the faith of the people to receive their miracles, not to comfort them . A wave of unbelief has been projected through that song, Thank God the man of god was sensitive enough in the spirit to counter that through the word of God.
My deduction is the need for believers to serve God for he is God and not for the miracles and blessings alone. Our God assuredly answers prayer according to His perfect will for us.
🥰
God backs up His Word.
Listen to this correction as directed by God
@@PastorChildren the song did not cast doubt about God's word, the song implies that our coming to God must not be about what we want from Him, but about Who God is. Don't cast the writer because of what Kumuyi said. Look at the song in the light of the scripture. I believe Believers should come to God for who He is, not for miracle. God will do miracles when you least expect it, not when you most expect it!
Pastor I need prayer for my life
Your miracle is on your way, keep trusting God and the desire changes, go through this phase of your life with God on your side, you will testify
In music lyrics could be modified to suit what message they wanted to pass across, which they would have done to the Music or change the song entirely... Deeper life Choir by now I believe they should be doing better. They have good rudiment of musical foundation but are still failing with choices of songs...It is well God is still God miracle or not. My 2 Kobo.
It is well
But for the crusade,the stanzas are okay,they would have used another chorus for medley... the one that will help the preacher and the people
True
amen one Lord God Samson children people only one Lord God Samson
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Nice one, pastor always correct with wisdom.
Exactly. You can say that again.
Correct
The song aligns with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego's "Our God is able... but...'
But?
What a great revelation from the man of God. I think we have better revelation and understanding about God than the old and new testament men and women
Don't harden your heart in upholding unbelief.
Repent and believe the gospel
If God chooses not to save them from the furnace, they will still not bow down to the image . @@deeperlifefamily
The pastor is very sensitive to every lyrics. Thank God for the correct ion
You are right.
Correct
Yes. Some pastors only flow with the music and not lyrics. Next time the Choir will be careful with lyrics. Pastor Kumuyi is a shepherd indeed, concerned about what his sheep is fed with.
Dear blogger. The pastor 's comment is totally parallel to the message of the lyrics. The song is saying that the supremacy of God is not dependent on whether or not He performed miracle. God is God in all situation or circumstances. Your insinuation is not relevant at all. Thanks
Ok
This was a crusade, there were many people with diverse infirmities, do u know the discouragement it'll bring to them? Pastor had to counter them so they don't feel discouraged
The lyrics of the song would have killed some faith. Look at it this way, here is a challenge that only praying through would solve. You now heard this song then you prayed and nothing happened then you conclude that God will do it if he wants and he is God even if he doesn't do it. This conclusion doesn't change who God is. PUSH- Pray Until Something Happens.@@donkellyyong2886
What makes God God is because of his work.. you waking up everyday is God's work... The sky not falling on you is also God's work... Everything you see is God's work .. God works every time....
Bloggers are part of the problem in Nigeria with all their lies
I don't think it's a correction per say
They didn't compose the song (if otherwise, I stand corrected)
From the message, the comment was to address a certain mindset of faithlessness where a prayer is made with failure in mind to cushion their beliefs if an answer isn't received
Otherwise it will be strange that they chose a music that would bring criticism from the pastor in his message
Then again it could be that he noticed it and saw he could apply it in the message. Goes to show how well experienced and led he is with the things of God
In all things, God gets the glory
It was a wonderful ministration followed by a wonderful message
Alright.
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You are wrong.
If you give an echo to unbelief, even if the sound is not originally from you, that makes you an unbeliever in God
Then when there is a clash in the spirit,eg if someone among the choir members or leaders is not living right or is fleshly and carnal,or when there's division among choir, most of what they do will be misunderstood and rebuked..av seen it happen before
Hmm
@@deeperlifefamily you see, I believe you said this because Kumuyi said the song was wrong, If kumuyi had said the song was right, you would have said, "Yes" the choir are holy and spiritual. What does the bible say about this song. check your scripture, not your pastor
My Daughter's school usually demands them to listen to GCK monthly, I will have to inoculate her against this kumuyi thought, i personally believe, in the light of the scriptures, that kumuyi thought on this is not biblical. please don't tear me apart cause I said his thought on the song is not biblical, Kumuyi is not God, He is not Jesus and thus, He does not have full revelation of God. We are all learning to grow
Really?
Isn't that extreme?
@@deeperlifefamily truth is not a potentiometer, not a line, it's a spot, you are either there or not, it is absolute. I know how much people's life have been damaged while chasing miracle rather than leaning on God's word
Rodriguez George Jackson Brian Thompson Deborah
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If HE did it in Bible days & we proclaim it, what if doesn't do it in our days, how will the world interpret it? They will say HE is a lier. Some will say the days of miracles, signs & wonders is passed. How then shall we prove that HE is the same yesterday, today & forever?
Quite unfortunately, no one through their several weeks of rehearsal thought straight to align with the theme of the program, "The Possibility of Faith". The Lord will help us
Amen
I believe this song is inspired by the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.
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Listen and take to correction as God directed His servant.
you are right in away, but also about Apostle Paul's life.
2Co 12:7And because of the transcendence of the revelations, in order that I might not be exceedingly lifted up, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, that he might buffet me, in order that I might not be exceedingly lifted up.
2Co 12:8Concerning this I entreated the Lord three times that it might depart from me.
2Co 12:9And He has said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is perfected in weakness. Most gladly therefore I will rather boast in my weaknesses that the power of Christ might tabernacle over me.
2Co 12:10Therefore I am well pleased in weaknesses, in insults, in necessities, in persecutions and distresses, on behalf of Christ; for when I am weak, then I am powerful.
Paul expected God's healing, God instead supplied grace to Him to bear it, rather than taking it away
This is what is called faith
Jn 20:29Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.
Good Evening Sir, how are you doing?
Please I want to speak to Pastor Kumuyi on phone call.
Please make I have his number?
Why?
I need our pastor to pray for me.
I seriously need prayers for my personal life.
@@deeperlifefamily I need our Pastor to pray for me.
I seriously need prayers for my personal life.
Let me tell you sth...just listen to those prayers he prayed on other videos and believe... believe in God, flee from sin, it will work for you.
God bless you sir.
Amen