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Neuvilette is an all-rounder, honestly there will be characters who will surpass him in damage, but in the end Neuvilette is not a god because of his damage, but in everything he offers you as a character
Make no mistake , his dmg is the main thing that's carrying him Neuvilette Furina and literally 2 empty team mate slots is enough to do 1 side of abyss unless hydro elemental counters exist
@@Ben-vg6ox I'm not saying the opposite, but in the end Neuvilette is not a god just because of his damage, he also offers you many other things, such as self-sustaining, versatility, he adapts to various situations, even things that don't make sense for some like passing through shields or flying enemies. That's what I say, he's an all-terrain character.
@@Ben-vg6oxgirl in ST scenario he is not even close to hutao and Arle dmg. The reason why he is broken is because he is jack of all trade master of everything, he has it all, decent St, Insane Aoe, tanky and self healing, mh artifact, flexible, f2p friendly weap, can perform well even with trash artifact compare to top dps, very easy to play, not dependent on perfect rotation. And The furina combo is only 1-7 dmg increase anyway plus with furina she makes the rotation longer so ew no
@@Ben-vg6ox That's more because he can hit more targets with the same damage compare to other characters, he tend to fall a little bit behind in single target speedrun. His damage output is good but not the best, his AOE is the OP part of his kit.
It's very clear that they don't want Neuvi to be the new power standard, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't do any Neuvi rerun for a very long time so people would accept him as an ourlier not the norm.
i saw the massive nerfs from miles away, take into account pyroarchon will buff her massively, that pottentiallity may warrant even more nerfs. And as i said before, neuvi should not in any circumstrance be considerd standard for dps units, making him the standard will powercreep all the other units in the game
I don't see how the Pyro Archon can massively buff only Mualani but not also Neuv. Remember when Furina was still in beta pre buff and everyone was complaining that she only works well in Neuvillette / fontaine teams. An archon that only works well with their own region's units will not sell nearly as well
@@BluecoreG i mean if pyro archon is vape focused, neuvillete doesn't rly care about vape. In this case Mualani would benefit a lot more from the archon buffing her vape teams.
She still nukes. If you don't mind the gameplay issues, her with sacrificial jade r1 (4star BP weapon) is the same amount of damage/nuking as a R1 (their signatures) lyney, arlechino or hu tao. She is the only character who can at c0R1 reach 100k dps. Every other character is at best between 80k-90k mualani is 10k more damage higher than her closest competition. But with all that said the nerf was huge. She used to with sac jade have significantly higher dps then any other dps with their signatures. It's was insane. And her aoe got gutted too. So she is looking to be good for lyney mains like me who like high reward high risk units but she isn't as valuable as she was be fore. Edit: apparently lyney can reach 100k C0R1 on genshin optimizer.
@@putent9623I'm really sad for her nerf and I don't think I'll pull for her on release but instead will pull for Yelan like I originally planned, maybe I'll pull for her on her rerun after I get Mavuika which can be a buff to her like furina was to neuvillette
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂Extra 36% CR from Marechussy 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂ Ranged 🎯
you literally will still have the best and second best hydro DPS in the entire game regardless of how her power finalises out. how is this not pure upside?
neuvilette never went from kyogre to wailord. Him being nerfed would be lowering his multipliers or making his passives or constellations worse, cutting down on high dpi mouse rotation was never a 'nerf', it was just a fun thing to do.
I think as long as she's still a good dps (let's say navia level) this is good for the game. People who like her can pull for her knowing she'll be a good carry but people who don't won't feel forced to pull for her like with top meta units (ie nahida). Her numbers were way too high before so a nerf was expected, otherwise she'd just ramp up powercreep and im glad they didn't go that route
No offense I would say Navia is power creep in geo so I wouldn’t say it’s a good example since she’s the only character that can even use the geo reactions to her benefit. If we’re talking about damage outputs then ya her damage isn’t crazy to the likes of neuvilette and arlecchino. Though to be fair most hydro units are pretty op. Remeber that Tartagllia proably held the title for best hydro dps for longest only finally loosing the title around Nilou bloom teams or neuvilette’s realse. “Ayato only worked well enough to be a rival or slightly weaker then tartaglia.”
@@jijidu69 ironically the 3 charcters you just mentioned may get a indirect nerf. 5.0 will introduce a elite pyro elemental life form enemy that’s made of lava.
She was shaping up to be the ideal forward vape carry (which I've been waiting for since launch) but now I don't feel like I'll be able to justify pulling for her, and due to the timing it's hard to think it's not due to Neuvillette's backlash. I imagine that's why the nerf more heavily impacts her AOE damage. They want to avoid any possible interpretation that he is powercrept. If she becomes better by the archon's release I'll grab her on re-run.
All this is pre release info to take with a grain of salt, this character still does a very good amount of damage and better than neuvillette in single target; out of combat she helps with exploration. She's in fact the only forward vape "carry", on release you'll be able to do the trial and decide if you want her or not for yourself, no need for justification to anyone it's just for fun.
@@silence7070 Nah, as soon as it's single target it does not make a difference. Genshin is a game where single target units are good in single target scenarios and AoE units are good in both multi & single target, like Xiangling and Neuvillette.
Think about it. Everyone is placing mualani with xiangling for her best comp. But because xiangling needs so much ER, this is problematic. BUT - I imagine the pyro archon will be a perfectly good slot for that. So maybe her perfect team is not here yet. Capiche? Xiangling is known to just be matched well with bennet, or just another pyro unit for the ER. But I think the pyro archon will be the first ''standalone xiangling''.
I agree with this but also her hydro application is Very slow, so burning or something like thoma or dehya can probably keep up with it without needing a million er
The problem is with 2 hydro units you need insane pyro app. The chances of mavuika applying as much pyro as xiangling is basically 0. Which means mavuika will have to replace furina so it will probably just make the team worse. Since almost no one is going to have Emile and mualani.
@@juggernaut6666 furina's buffs also seemed to good to be true at first. nahida is cracked too, there's no reason to think mavuika won't be on their level
@elina1421 she will definitely be powerful, no doubt. But I really don't think her app will be on xianglings level. Which will be necessary for mualani and furina together.
I think it was a wise decision. If she would be even stronger then Neuvilette, then the abyss would also increase very heavy. And that would mean that many older teams are barely playable. That would be a big uproar from the comm.
I swear, you Neuv mains only care about “game balance” when your fave character is about to be powercrept. Give me a break. You’re delusional if you think he should be at the top of the meta for the rest of the game’s life. Sooner or later, if Hoyo wants to sell future units, he’s going to get powercrept. But, until then, I guess you fools can continue to pretend to care about “game balance.”
This is probably kinda dumb but i dont think Mualani shouldve been hydro. We have way to many good hydro characters, I was thinking maybe she could've been anemo or cryo instead but idk.
How exactly? They set her kit capability to match with her popularity. What’s the point in investing so much into a character if nobody really wants to pull for them?
@@AmbroseVermillion If she is stronger than Neuvillette she automatically gains popularity, For example, I didn't want to pull for her until I saw that she would be stronger than Neuvillette Now Hoyo lost a fortune because of this Nerf
@@Gomes_Manuel_azul they didn't lose any "fortune". They could easily give another popular character a broekn kit 2 patches from now and still make a fortune out of it. Its hilarious the way you people think lol.
@@Gomes_Manuel_azul First of all she was never projected to powercreep him this was just major speculation and opinion based on leaks. Second of all even if she was stronger, Neuvillette overwhelmingly trumps her in popularity as he is one of the biggest figures in the Fontaine arc alongside the likes of Furina and Arlecchino while Mualani is likely going to be as important as Lyney. The nerfs were justified as she lacks popularity which is the cold hard truth. You Mualani supporters have yourself to blame for not hyping her up enough. But to be honest it’s also her design as she looks more like a four star character
I'm surprised how little dps powercreep there is in Genshin compared to the same HSR, a nearly one year old character still stands as a top 1 dps whilst in HSR they get switched every 1-2 patches
Power creep is good. The game shouldn't remain stagnant with the Meta never shifting Old units are meant to not be the best but should still clear through the introduction of new supports
@@AlwaysThirstys And in genshin, team damage is more important than personal damage. Hyper dps teams can have the same clear time with elemental reaction teams, even with the old units.
@@shonenhikada9254 this makes building and farming characters for weeks or even months worthless , not to mention people spend money on characters just to see it get powercreept
Like they care about losing a couple people’s money for Mualani, their lesser new character in 5.0 We all know that Kinich will be carrying alongside Kazuha and Raiden, so they are set
Xiangling solo pyro in her team is kinda problematic with the astronomically high er tho. How much er do you need without bennet ? 250+ with multiple fav? Or 300+ in worst case scenario
@@None38389 lemme say if guoba hits all 4 times and on average her team will generate around 25-30ish particles. Consider all not caught so muliply by 0.6 4 guoba hits mean 3 energy which is 3.6. Overall in single target she should need about 300 if 25 and 250 if 30. With fav it's lower however.
SHe needs a good pyro off fielder and another natlan chara for the three characters bonus. She is far from having her best team and she already matches the best single target dps in the game. Nerfing is for the good of the game.
@@marblepants But the thing is that there really aren't that many characters that need a pyro off fielder. Assuming she deals more damage than Xiangling which may not happen. She'd buff Wrio, Tartaglia, Raiden, Kinchi, Emilie, Neuvillette (maybe), Arleccino overload (maybe). Like that's good but Mualani is already better than all of them outside neuvillette and she benefits very poorly of Xiangling+Bennet.
I saw this day coming when i first saw her kit. Even though it's kinda sad to hear her nerfed.(sorry for mualani wanters) That's what she gets to compete with hydro dragon
makes sense lore wise Neuvillette should be strongest in playable characters since dragon sovereigns with elemental authority are even stronger than archons
For real, Mualani represents Hoyoverse’s greed. I mean we literally just got an amazing Hydro Catalyst DPS, what does Hoyo do? Try and make the exact same thing to make more money while trying to nerf the other one for zero good reason
@@AmbroseVermillionor guess what? They shouldnt nerf either and give us a character that can compete with the brainrot powercreep of neuvilette. That would not be greedy and healthy for the game unlike the current state of neuvilette
@@klapsendoc06xd60 You don’t have to to pull for him if you don’t want to. Plus they could have at least tried to give her a different weapon type, she was obviously made to try and surpass Neuvillette
@@AmbroseVermillion no she doesnt. Arlecchino barely reaches him dmg wise on herb est team while being extreme hard to play. Neuvi is best dos in game on a mediocre team and the worst part: u literally just hold ca and spin.
Well, that's a relief, I was getting concerned that power creep was becoming a thing where each nation is "better" than the previous when it's been balanced for 4 nations so before Fontaine.
I'm glad they didn't go the "way bigger numbers" route, mualani was straight up broken before and it was worrying. Though i think realistically they will be stronger than older units bc of the new sets. They'll have higher crit damage because their crit rate is already taken care of, which equals more damage. The supports will simply buff easier and more universally + you'll be encouraged to pull for many natlan units because of the night spirit thing or whatever it's called
Fontaine kind of made things goofy with Neuvillette, lol. We definitely are getting Pyro powercreeps with Natlan tho, but everyone should have expected that.
@@fatuusdottore why would we get pyro powercreep, there will barely be any new pyro characters. Mavuika and probably another one. And right now pyro has no 5 stars limited off fielder, so the smart thing would be to make pyro supports/off fielders. And Mualani is already confirmation of that, she wants a pyro off fielder for her vape teams.
@@MacA60230i think both mavuika and xbalanque or however you write that will be better then all other pyro units, but thats good in my oppinion, bennet and xianling need some competition
@@EdenVix you actually have zero idea what youre talking about. she was never powercreeping nuev. if she was going to, you should be crying because hutao already did because she does more dmg than neuv.
i don’t have neuvillette so i don’t have anything to compare her to also i tend to pull for the character’s personality/lore rather than their kit, i mean imagine pulling a character you don’t even like because of their kit!? its just a waste of primos/money and time bc u have to build them
I am sure she will get buffed before release. Maybe not as buffed as some would like, but still…Either way, buff or nerf, I am not interested in her. Too many other Natlan Characters I really do want.
I don’t think so because she’s been heavily overshadowed by the other characters. Kinich is more popular than her in 5.0 and most of the later ones are definitely more popular than her I think she’s only more popular than Kachina and Iansan tbh
Even if she is powercreeps Neuvi, I will not pull for her. I have a well invested Neuvi with his signature, spent 200 wishes to get it and I still haven't recovered from it. My quota for on field Hydro DPS is complete and I am happy with his performance. I would rather pull for some other archetypes, make my existing characters stronger by getting their C1/C2 etc.
Same here, I invested a lot on him getting his C1 R1 and got Furina C1 last rerun, I am now focusing on Xianyun and Mavuika then to geo spectrum, like I didn't pull any geo 5 star for ages lol, rn I am trying my luck on Navia, if no then Chiori or that new geo from Natlan....
@@nexuhs. That's some inaccurate info man. You're not considering AoE or the feasibility of optimal use. Yes, her raw big #'s are higher, but her absolute peak DPS-wise was going to be about the same as Neuvillette, with significantly more skill required and losing out on the quality of life that Neuvi teams enjoy. This is why it's frustrating that they went back on the Neuvi bugfix, but nerfed Mualani into the dirt.
@@nexuhs. Neuvi is going to look a lot worse than he actually is if you just look at sheet numbers, he can attack the whole room at the same time, Mualani can't.
@nexuhs. dont forgot about how actually difficult it is to have enough offield pyro application uptime during her rotation to actually do the numbers her dmg sheet theoretically allows. With her needing to build enough stacks as well, its easy to imagine how her actual IRL numbers (outside of restarting abyss domains a few times for peak proformance or a very skilled player) even in ST would only be a bit better or possibly even be worse than nevuillete's. Someone whos basically babyproof in contrast. This nerf basically turned her from a new viable vape meta character into a harder to play childe international for no significant benefit
I have so many hydro at this point that pulling her would just be a waste of primos,I don’t need any more hydro characters ( I have c2 furina and c1 neuvi) any new hydro characters is Just an extra
Great news! Neuvi should be an exception not the standart. I already feel powercreep when trying to use older units. Also, Mualani is designed to play with pyro chars and may be significantly buffed by the archon
Not sure why u think it'd a good idea to keep things stagnant. If mihoyo makes proper support for old units to still clear content then power creep is welcome. Trying to have all character be relatively the same works against the very principle of gacha games.
@@shonenhikada9254 I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to make units who are important in the game useless. Power crept will just make the game harder. Soon the proper support will be useless and another character will just be thrown in the bin. Some amount of power crept is fine however it can become an issue. Making everybody on the level of neuv would just make half the dps chars currently in the game useless or just replacable.
@@AlwaysThirstys 1. Making units in the game move from being top tier to less powerful Is not making them useless. 2. That is nature of how gacha games work. People who are sensible will not pull for characters that are worse or same level as a character they have already built up. 3. Power creep does not mean every character needs to be neuvilette level. This is a strawman argument. All it means is that mihoyo should not be afraid to make characters that super seed neuvilette. 4. Many genshin fans often say that the game is too easy that u can beat it with 4 star characters. Raising the difficulty Wil not make 1/2 dps unusable. This is just a fear u have. 5. That's not how supports work. Supports tend to have a long shelf life. When we say Power creep, we don't mean that in 1 month the latest character becomes useless. It means that a unit that was top tier 1 year ago should logically be moved to middle of the pack. Having a unit retain their spot as the best indefinitely will drive down sales and make things rather boring.
@@user-ex9bn5nc3u they need to get supports to boost them if they are a dps or wait for release of a character which can use them. Example qiqi has always been meme as bad but found new use in clorinde team.
I guess I'm set to skipping her, and this makes 5.0 banners (raiden mulan/kazuha kinich) a big skip for me (although I have c1 raiden and c1 kazuha), more primogems for goatHIMtano I guess?
Save for GOATmitano, you definitely don’t want to waste for an appetizer character like her I recommend people save for one of the Natlan Big 3: Mavuika, Xbalanque, or Capitano
You Know what its means. C6 Furina is still the Strongest DPS in the game. i.e. 2.3Million DMG per vape Plunge and max Upto 15 Million DMG per rotation with certain specific teams.
@@DefinitelyNotAFerret Kazuha C2 is not Necessary but if specific for more than 2million DMG then yes. otherwise a C0 team with just C6 Furina with key can do 1.6Million DMG.
@@mickysaifwhat i extactly felt when I tried a private server for once. Getting everyone c6r5 made the game boring so quickly I uninstalled it in like only a week
@@ABC-yj6cy He wasn't power crept tbh, if Venti's suction works he'll likely perform better than Kazuha, most abyss 12 lineups just don't have more than 1-2 rooms Venti is effective in though with the amount of heavy enemies and bosses used there. Think Venti is still sometimes the best option for a chamber anyway, but yeah he's more a utility unit who counters specific content than a main stay on any archetype.
Sad nerf. I guess Hoyo don't really want a direct rival DPS to the Hydro Sovereign yet. At least not this fast. Tbh the idea kinda exciting : A hydro DPS that need tight reaction set up to succeed (like Hu Tao, Ganyu or Childe) vs comfy DPS like Neuvi or Arlle who can dish out long string high dmg attack even with flexible set up.
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this is sadly the most skippable region for me. was very excited to see my latin culture represented but the characters and region seem so...unimpressive. i like adult units and only see myself pulling for Xilonen, Mauvika, Xbalanque(if hes an adult), and Capitano
@fatuusdottore it's mainly because most of the characters are paper white, but thats on me for getting my hopes up expecting some diversity in character design...and I know the region takes inspo from Latin America, Indigenous, African, and Polynesian cultures. It's just that the designs are...boring. like mualani barely has any clothing, and her markings just look like tan lines with how much they blend with her skin. Don't even get me started on the archon and her zipper that goes all the way, like I get fanservice, but that just seems over the top to the point of it being funny rather than attractive. Not what I imagined from the God of War. Olorun is just an edgy white guy with the name of THE Orisha that rules the heavens. That clorinde knock off is...yikes...and the dendro guys whole pixel thing is just throwing me off, like I can see that with a person from sumeru but even then it would still be off putting. Idk. Maybe if there were more dudes and/or adults for a land ravaged in war, I would like them, but natlan is just a disappointment to me.
Yeah, I agree on the looks thing. Skin color aside, Maulani to me looks like a character that would happen if Japan adapted the look an islander would have if used in, say, Disney's Peter Pan.
lore ≠ gameplay, she could have had a chance to be stronger. yk how hu tao is one of the most weakest characters in lore but one of the most strongest characters in gameplay?
@@j4depookieThat’s not the point, they already made Neuvillette’s kit stupidly broken, even Hoyo admitted themselves. Making Mualani more broken than that would just destroy the game balance
@@AmbroseVermillion International is good in AOE, calcs at 46k. Neuv has full chamber AOE, calcs at 77k. Both are still great teams, yet making a character comparable to him is just unbalanced.
I sincerely hope she's still strong, I don't want the main Mualani to receive the same treatment as Dehya(💀) but at the same time he was happy, he couldn't take it anymore to see amazing male main dps which are very strong and important in lore launch and shortly after being totally powercreep by a random girl who is probably very weak or irrelevant in the lore
Clearly, Hoyoverse get scared because of the scandal they created by nerfing Neuvillette to sell Mualani. Now they nerfed Mualani to make sure the chinese community doesn't get mad again.
Honestly I’m glad they nerfed her because Mualani just represents Hoyoverse’s greed. I mean why make her a Hydro catalyst like Neuvillette? They try to make her so unnecessarily busted just to make up for making Neuvillette so broken
I'm glad they nerfed her, Neuvillette was one of Hoyo's biggest mistakes and I'm glad they are not following the same formula of powercreeping existing characters into oblivion like they do in hsr
GOD is it getting bad in HSR, so bad that a character may sometimes not even be worth pulling for on their first rerun. We thought things started to shake up with Acheron then FF took it a step further lmao.
I mean, Neuvillette is the flipping dragon sovereign of water and our first playable sovereign, the strongest being we've met so far, so i consider his broken damage an exception. 😅
What mistake? Their mistake was Zhongli who should have been the strongest archon. Neuvillette is the Hydro sovereign so he's even stronger than the archons since their power is actually stolen from the dragons
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643 Why should lore dictate power level? Zhongli should be able to one shot everyone that isn't an archon/neuvillette if lore was a factor. It's such a dumb excuse to say Neuvillette being broken is fine because he is a sovereign, no other unit gets that privilege. Zhongli can be a shieldbot despite being one of the most feared archons, Wanderer can be mid af despite being an harbinger... but Neuvillette has to be broken because he is a sovereign?
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643 Lore has never been proportional to power in this game though. Some of the strongest units in Genshin are complete randoms story-wise. Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Fischl, Kazuha, Hu Tao, Nilou etc, none of them have any lore reason to be remotely powerful yet here we are
Maybe the nerfs were a touch too much as you say, hopefully they get tuned up a smidge again. She was completely broken in her previous state so I'm not surprised by this. As a Mualani wanter and non-Neuvilette haver I still think it would be healthier for the game if they were closer in numbers. While yes I like the idea of her having a higher ceiling due to a more complicated playstyle and rotation I don't think that she should outcompete him in his own niche.
How was she outcompeting him in his own niche when his AoE is practically the entire abyss floor while hers is average? Now post-nerf, he's also around her level more or less in ST while still being miles more optimal to play. I fail to see any upside to her kit in comparison currently
neuv and mualani are not competition, they dont even use the same teams, she was never neuv powercreep, so i dont understand the neuv mains being happy with this. Comparing both units is like comparing alhaitham with kinich
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 but she did powercreep Neuvillette in beta V1, yes her AOE coverage was/is not as high as Neuvillette, but her personal dmg is so high that she 1 hit smaller/elite enemies so there’s no need for her to have high AOE coverage to do well in AOE I’m surprised Hoyo nerfed her, cause idk how else they are gotta sell her if her meta value isn’t higher than Neuvillette or equal to Neuvillette, plus with all the drama going on in CN over the past couple months, lots and lots of players are quitting the game
@@episode4882 no she never powercrept neuv. Go look at hutao and think to yourself about why neuv is played and pulled more than her, despite hutao dealing more single target dmg. Or better yet, why nobody lost their shit that nuev was terrible because he does less single target dmg than hutao? The reasons youve thought up are the same reasons why nuev is still better mualani. Huge aoe, self sustain, easy to use, no range issues, etc. Or lyney. The character whose max theoretical dmg surpasses both arle and nuev at c0. Nuev is easy to play and requires no thought whatsoever to drown an entire room by just spinning.
Im kinda glad that she got a nerf because she at least still has the Skill Ceiling dmg for Neuvillette and already creeping him was gonna be a wild time
You said that Neuvillette can do damage to all the enemies in the room consistently. I think we can’t expect Hoyoverse to balance future characters based on that. They won’t balance characters based on an exploit they failed to fix in time.
I think it is fair to nerf her, maybe they might even nerf her a bit more. Since she seems to be the sort of character that will need a strong, off field pyro sub dps, that has Natlan mechanics - Probably the Natlan archon.
Clorinde flashbacks. Copers are gonna cope and say this fine. Simps are gonna simp and say they'd pull even if she healed enemies. And once again Genshin gets away with shipping a mid female unit that can cost up to 400 euros.
Just grind the pulls nerd. Brother forgot nobody is forcing him to pay for the game. Its free. I've been playing free on and off for almost 4 years. Also clorinde is top 10 dps. And she is top 5 for speedruning right now, at C0 and C6. At C6 she is pushing top 4 just below arle, neuv, lyney and wriothesley.
Imagine playing neuvilette instead of Mualani in speedrun 😂 Edit: Just like alhaitham get rekt by every character (even tighnari) in speedruns lol Tho neuvilette is still good in speedruns. But he won't be close to Mualani in speedruns.
In the first place, even she didn’t get nerfed, player don’t really need dps who launch nuke in short window. That’s only for satisfaction but unnecessary. Especially when hoyo made annoying boss such like wenut and players rampaged and flooded with negative feedback. I love that they keep Neuvilette an exceptional mistake. Better than making him a new norm and forcing us to ditch most of character we have.
I'm pretty sure Hoyoverse took out their frustration from not being able to nerf Neuvillette, and being forced to apologize and give out compensation, on Mualani. They said fuck this, you want Neuvillette to be overpowered, fine, we're not gonna introduce powercreep or make this hot girl in a bikini deal more damage than one of the Elemental Dragon Sovereigns, so enjoy your mid-at-best new 5* hydro DPS.
or they would be almost sued again and doxxed for making a new character better than neuvi 😭 but they HAVE to accept that one day he will be powercrept. I mean just imagine how hu tao mains felt when arlecchino released, but they didnt complain
range, aoe, self sustain, evasion, rotation flexibility, skill ceiling, and finally damage can mualani even hold a candle against neuv in any of those categories except damage? please stop with the mualani vs neuv trope and focus on debating on a more meaningful and interesting topic, you're contributing to the build up of bullshit in this community, do better.
Imo, makes every new character in Neuvi level really makes me woried lol 😂. Cuz in know powercreep in gacha, but i dont wanna my old character get dump cuz their damage not relevant. She still need nerf and see if still good. Cuz nuke damage in short rotation kinda disgusting to see
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How well wuwa run on it?
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Is kinch also nerfed im praying he isnt..
And what about the artifact sets?
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Neuvillete not only cancelled his own nerf
He made sure Maulani got nerfed
Don't mess with Bro
Im tellin, my king cannot be beaten
@@Kshitij_Ballayacapitano soloes
@@jagmbaksvshsh true that
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Neuvilette is an all-rounder, honestly there will be characters who will surpass him in damage, but in the end Neuvilette is not a god because of his damage, but in everything he offers you as a character
Make no mistake , his dmg is the main thing that's carrying him
Neuvilette Furina and literally 2 empty team mate slots is enough to do 1 side of abyss unless hydro elemental counters exist
@@Ben-vg6ox I'm not saying the opposite, but in the end Neuvilette is not a god just because of his damage, he also offers you many other things, such as self-sustaining, versatility, he adapts to various situations, even things that don't make sense for some like passing through shields or flying enemies. That's what I say, he's an all-terrain character.
@@Ben-vg6oxHis comfort is what makes him so good, his damage is roughly equal to Arlecchino, if not slightly less
@@Ben-vg6oxgirl in ST scenario he is not even close to hutao and Arle dmg. The reason why he is broken is because he is jack of all trade master of everything, he has it all, decent St, Insane Aoe, tanky and self healing, mh artifact, flexible, f2p friendly weap, can perform well even with trash artifact compare to top dps, very easy to play, not dependent on perfect rotation. And The furina combo is only 1-7 dmg increase anyway plus with furina she makes the rotation longer so ew no
@@Ben-vg6ox That's more because he can hit more targets with the same damage compare to other characters, he tend to fall a little bit behind in single target speedrun. His damage output is good but not the best, his AOE is the OP part of his kit.
I think Hoyoverse get scared from the Chinese community attacking them again for indirectly nerf neuvillette 😂.
I think the same
Ngl the CN community has a grip on them, understandably so, after all thyre the one funding hoyo
Their fault. They could have easily fixed that on debut banner, instead milked it first until rerun.
It's very clear that they don't want Neuvi to be the new power standard, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't do any Neuvi rerun for a very long time so people would accept him as an ourlier not the norm.
@@None38389im gonna cry if they do that cause im literally saving for c6 neuvi😭
i saw the massive nerfs from miles away, take into account pyroarchon will buff her massively, that pottentiallity may warrant even more nerfs.
And as i said before, neuvi should not in any circumstrance be considerd standard for dps units, making him the standard will powercreep all the other units in the game
he's on his own league, not even arle and alhaitham can compare :(
I don't see how the Pyro Archon can massively buff only Mualani but not also Neuv. Remember when Furina was still in beta pre buff and everyone was complaining that she only works well in Neuvillette / fontaine teams. An archon that only works well with their own region's units will not sell nearly as well
I found it weird how people are upset she's better than every other 5-star.
@@BluecoreG because neuvi can't vape every hit while she can, even if she buffs neuvi it won't be as big as mulani
@@BluecoreG i mean if pyro archon is vape focused, neuvillete doesn't rly care about vape. In this case Mualani would benefit a lot more from the archon buffing her vape teams.
Congrats on the sponsorship! I think my first vid ever watching of yours was an old alhaitham. Time flies!
Nuevillette found both Hoyo and Mualani to be guilty
Oratrice Mechanic D’Analyse Cardinal do be working overtime in the past weeks
@@kaikaikai4477it so much overworked that it's stopped working
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Hoyo got that PTSD from the Otterbros lawsuit.
dang, I kinda wanted to pull for her to nuke things with a cute shark
She still nukes. If you don't mind the gameplay issues, her with sacrificial jade r1 (4star BP weapon) is the same amount of damage/nuking as a R1 (their signatures) lyney, arlechino or hu tao.
She is the only character who can at c0R1 reach 100k dps. Every other character is at best between 80k-90k mualani is 10k more damage higher than her closest competition.
But with all that said the nerf was huge. She used to with sac jade have significantly higher dps then any other dps with their signatures. It's was insane.
And her aoe got gutted too. So she is looking to be good for lyney mains like me who like high reward high risk units but she isn't as valuable as she was be fore.
Edit: apparently lyney can reach 100k C0R1 on genshin optimizer.
@@putent9623 Recommending jade for her its just evil lmao.
U will be overcapped on crit with that weapon and new artifact set without single substat.
@@putent9623I'm really sad for her nerf and I don't think I'll pull for her on release but instead will pull for Yelan like I originally planned, maybe I'll pull for her on her rerun after I get Mavuika which can be a buff to her like furina was to neuvillette
@@putent9623 how good will neuvillette's sig be on her as a stat stick?
@@lugchug8304Neuvillette’s sig on Mualani is purely just for the crit stat. Honestly, I’d just go for the craftable catalyst coming up soon
Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷♂Extra 36% CR from Marechussy 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙♂ Ranged 🎯
the k'sante of genshin
Dude is built like a dragon
Lore accurate
Had it been reddit your comment would've been downvoted to oblivion 💀
@@abhi7ekk I swear every Mualani main hates Neuvillette and blames the nerfs on him lol
As a Neuvillette main and Mualani wanter, I feel like two walls are closing in on me
LMAO FR
you literally will still have the best and second best hydro DPS in the entire game regardless of how her power finalises out. how is this not pure upside?
If you like her pull for her favorite characters always go first,but if you are not sure I would skip Mulani.
I hate Mualani, but pull for her if you really really want her it’s your choice
TL;DR for Pokemon fans, she went from Dracovish to Feraligatr. Neuvilette temporarily went from Kyogre to Wailord but reverted to Kyogre
neuvilette never went from kyogre to wailord. Him being nerfed would be lowering his multipliers or making his passives or constellations worse, cutting down on high dpi mouse rotation was never a 'nerf', it was just a fun thing to do.
I think as long as she's still a good dps (let's say navia level) this is good for the game. People who like her can pull for her knowing she'll be a good carry but people who don't won't feel forced to pull for her like with top meta units (ie nahida). Her numbers were way too high before so a nerf was expected, otherwise she'd just ramp up powercreep and im glad they didn't go that route
No offense I would say Navia is power creep in geo so I wouldn’t say it’s a good example since she’s the only character that can even use the geo reactions to her benefit. If we’re talking about damage outputs then ya her damage isn’t crazy to the likes of neuvilette and arlecchino. Though to be fair most hydro units are pretty op. Remeber that Tartagllia proably held the title for best hydro dps for longest only finally loosing the title around Nilou bloom teams or neuvilette’s realse. “Ayato only worked well enough to be a rival or slightly weaker then tartaglia.”
She is better than navia still so that's not issue. But now she is more in line with the hu tao, arleccino and lyney.
I mean, she was Navia level before the nerf. Now she will be below navia. It suits her 4-star design now
@@jijidu69 ironically the 3 charcters you just mentioned may get a indirect nerf. 5.0 will introduce a elite pyro elemental life form enemy that’s made of lava.
@@oskispacepoint5300 She definitely was not navia level... She was better than neuvilette in vape
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She was shaping up to be the ideal forward vape carry (which I've been waiting for since launch) but now I don't feel like I'll be able to justify pulling for her, and due to the timing it's hard to think it's not due to Neuvillette's backlash. I imagine that's why the nerf more heavily impacts her AOE damage. They want to avoid any possible interpretation that he is powercrept. If she becomes better by the archon's release I'll grab her on re-run.
All this is pre release info to take with a grain of salt, this character still does a very good amount of damage and better than neuvillette in single target; out of combat she helps with exploration. She's in fact the only forward vape "carry", on release you'll be able to do the trial and decide if you want her or not for yourself, no need for justification to anyone it's just for fun.
It was a short dream for Mualani mains. My dream about Kinich being a meta AoE unit is also over, since he seems to be a dendro Yoimiya.
he's more similar to navia than yoimiya
Dendro yoiniya still sounds good. Like collei is dendro amber but the element makes all the difference in the world.
True dendro yoi miya would go crazy @@silence7070
@@silence7070 Nah, as soon as it's single target it does not make a difference. Genshin is a game where single target units are good in single target scenarios and AoE units are good in both multi & single target, like Xiangling and Neuvillette.
@@sanda888 well, arlecchino is a single target. Having enough damage kinda saves the day.
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Think about it. Everyone is placing mualani with xiangling for her best comp. But because xiangling needs so much ER, this is problematic. BUT - I imagine the pyro archon will be a perfectly good slot for that. So maybe her perfect team is not here yet. Capiche?
Xiangling is known to just be matched well with bennet, or just another pyro unit for the ER. But I think the pyro archon will be the first ''standalone xiangling''.
I agree with this but also her hydro application is Very slow, so burning or something like thoma or dehya can probably keep up with it without needing a million er
The problem is with 2 hydro units you need insane pyro app. The chances of mavuika applying as much pyro as xiangling is basically 0. Which means mavuika will have to replace furina so it will probably just make the team worse. Since almost no one is going to have Emile and mualani.
@@juggernaut6666 furina's buffs also seemed to good to be true at first. nahida is cracked too, there's no reason to think mavuika won't be on their level
@elina1421 she will definitely be powerful, no doubt. But I really don't think her app will be on xianglings level. Which will be necessary for mualani and furina together.
Yeah Furina with such a buff for Neuvillette
Hoyoverse be bouncing nerfs and buffs on the hydro dps like a ball
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This voicelines aged nicely 😭😭
Truly divine justice
I think it was a wise decision. If she would be even stronger then Neuvilette, then the abyss would also increase very heavy. And that would mean that many older teams are barely playable. That would be a big uproar from the comm.
Doesn't stop her from doing 80k dps and him doing 60k (theorycrafter did the calc)
I swear, you Neuv mains only care about “game balance” when your fave character is about to be powercrept. Give me a break.
You’re delusional if you think he should be at the top of the meta for the rest of the game’s life.
Sooner or later, if Hoyo wants to sell future units, he’s going to get powercrept.
But, until then, I guess you fools can continue to pretend to care about “game balance.”
This is probably kinda dumb but i dont think Mualani shouldve been hydro. We have way to many good hydro characters, I was thinking maybe she could've been anemo or cryo instead but idk.
Or a 4*, we only have 3 after all and two of those are barbara and candace
I Natlan there are already 2 Cryo in trailer.
Ororon seemed Anemo so she will be the only hydro in Natlan from trailer
Nah not dumb, you're right, they should give us some 4 star hydros instead of 5 stares
yeah she scream 4* for me
Mualani should have been an Anemo DPS, Besides wanderer we have nobody really
remember everyone, power creep will kill your game instantly. this is a good thing
more reason to save your pulll for mavuika, i see this as a W
Why is the thumbnail so funny 🤣
I see that my good sir plays overwatch too
They did Mualani dirty ngl
How exactly? They set her kit capability to match with her popularity. What’s the point in investing so much into a character if nobody really wants to pull for them?
@@AmbroseVermillion If she is stronger than Neuvillette she automatically gains popularity, For example, I didn't want to pull for her until I saw that she would be stronger than Neuvillette
Now Hoyo lost a fortune because of this Nerf
@@Gomes_Manuel_azul they didn't lose any "fortune". They could easily give another popular character a broekn kit 2 patches from now and still make a fortune out of it. Its hilarious the way you people think lol.
@@venkat5446 But it was literally unnecessary to nerf her
@@Gomes_Manuel_azul First of all she was never projected to powercreep him this was just major speculation and opinion based on leaks.
Second of all even if she was stronger, Neuvillette overwhelmingly trumps her in popularity as he is one of the biggest figures in the Fontaine arc alongside the likes of Furina and Arlecchino while Mualani is likely going to be as important as Lyney.
The nerfs were justified as she lacks popularity which is the cold hard truth. You Mualani supporters have yourself to blame for not hyping her up enough. But to be honest it’s also her design as she looks more like a four star character
Neuvillette: "That's not gonna work for me brother."
"Never mess with the lizard nation again"
Mualani went from surfing on the shark to jumping it
I'm surprised how little dps powercreep there is in Genshin compared to the same HSR, a nearly one year old character still stands as a top 1 dps whilst in HSR they get switched every 1-2 patches
And some 4 star characters from 1.0 are still BiS in lots of teams.
Power creep is good. The game shouldn't remain stagnant with the Meta never shifting Old units are meant to not be the best but should still clear through the introduction of new supports
@@shonenhikada9254 Genshin dps increase by around 10 - 15% every region. There is powercrept however it isn't the worst and is used in moderation.
@@AlwaysThirstys And in genshin, team damage is more important than personal damage. Hyper dps teams can have the same clear time with elemental reaction teams, even with the old units.
@@shonenhikada9254 this makes building and farming characters for weeks or even months worthless , not to mention people spend money on characters just to see it get powercreept
Don't worry the only character who will power creep everybody is non orher than the MC in the future.
Get the bag bro you deserve those ads!
I'm so disappointed. Hoyoverse lost my money on this banner.
Like they care about losing a couple people’s money for Mualani, their lesser new character in 5.0
We all know that Kinich will be carrying alongside Kazuha and Raiden, so they are set
Xiangling solo pyro in her team is kinda problematic with the astronomically high er tho. How much er do you need without bennet ? 250+ with multiple fav? Or 300+ in worst case scenario
Time to pull R5 engulfing lightning for xiangling when Raiden's rerun comes out.
@@None38389 lemme say if guoba hits all 4 times and on average her team will generate around 25-30ish particles. Consider all not caught so muliply by 0.6 4 guoba hits mean 3 energy which is 3.6. Overall in single target she should need about 300 if 25 and 250 if 30. With fav it's lower however.
This is 100% for the better. Consider Mavuika still has to come and she will 100% make her a lot better
SHe needs a good pyro off fielder and another natlan chara for the three characters bonus. She is far from having her best team and she already matches the best single target dps in the game. Nerfing is for the good of the game.
Mavuika is not exclusive to Mualani, she will make half of the other cast better. This argument does not make sense
Watch this comment age like milk as she buffs attack and It become a "surely nahida buffs cyno" situation all over again
@@marblepants But the thing is that there really aren't that many characters that need a pyro off fielder. Assuming she deals more damage than Xiangling which may not happen.
She'd buff Wrio, Tartaglia, Raiden, Kinchi, Emilie, Neuvillette (maybe), Arleccino overload (maybe). Like that's good but Mualani is already better than all of them outside neuvillette and she benefits very poorly of Xiangling+Bennet.
If she buff mualani I'm sure she'll buff neuvillette too so don't get your hopes high
I saw this day coming when i first saw her kit. Even though it's kinda sad to hear her nerfed.(sorry for mualani wanters) That's what she gets to compete with hydro dragon
finally someone playing sensible team in an ad
Naw the Thumbnail is so funny as hell it reminds me.of that crying side profile anime girl 😭
makes sense
lore wise Neuvillette should be strongest in playable characters since dragon sovereigns with elemental authority are even stronger than archons
I dont think thats taken into consideration that much
Ayaka is barely considered steong lore wise, yet she was top tier dps for a super long time.
@@Shortstep_ well ya 😔 but i just wish its like that in neuvillette's case
also hello monsieur neuvillette
@@Shortstep_Since dendro, the standard skyrocketed, hence Neuv having to be stronger twicefold to compensate.
@@simplyheen1150 has nothing to with dendro, game would progress with stronger characters either way
@@UltraInstinct509 ACCORDING TO THE JUDGEMENT OF ORATRICE MECHANIQUE -
Thank you for using pyro against hydro on sponsorship videos
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(Unlike Hoyo- Raiden burst onto electro bird 💀)
This is good news! A win for everyone as we can just skip her and save for other future characters.
For real, Mualani represents Hoyoverse’s greed. I mean we literally just got an amazing Hydro Catalyst DPS, what does Hoyo do? Try and make the exact same thing to make more money while trying to nerf the other one for zero good reason
@@AmbroseVermillionor guess what? They shouldnt nerf either and give us a character that can compete with the brainrot powercreep of neuvilette. That would not be greedy and healthy for the game unlike the current state of neuvilette
@@klapsendoc06xd60 You don’t have to to pull for him if you don’t want to. Plus they could have at least tried to give her a different weapon type, she was obviously made to try and surpass Neuvillette
@@klapsendoc06xd60 And Arlecchino may not be on the same level as him, but she shares so similarities that helps her compete with Neuvillette a bit
@@AmbroseVermillion no she doesnt. Arlecchino barely reaches him dmg wise on herb est team while being extreme hard to play. Neuvi is best dos in game on a mediocre team and the worst part: u literally just hold ca and spin.
Man I love Neuvillette, I wish there was a character who is harder to play and does less damage.
Well, that's a relief, I was getting concerned that power creep was becoming a thing where each nation is "better" than the previous when it's been balanced for 4 nations so before Fontaine.
I'm glad they didn't go the "way bigger numbers" route, mualani was straight up broken before and it was worrying.
Though i think realistically they will be stronger than older units bc of the new sets. They'll have higher crit damage because their crit rate is already taken care of, which equals more damage. The supports will simply buff easier and more universally + you'll be encouraged to pull for many natlan units because of the night spirit thing or whatever it's called
Fontaine kind of made things goofy with Neuvillette, lol.
We definitely are getting Pyro powercreeps with Natlan tho, but everyone should have expected that.
@@fatuusdottore why would we get pyro powercreep, there will barely be any new pyro characters. Mavuika and probably another one. And right now pyro has no 5 stars limited off fielder, so the smart thing would be to make pyro supports/off fielders. And Mualani is already confirmation of that, she wants a pyro off fielder for her vape teams.
@@MacA60230i think both mavuika and xbalanque or however you write that will be better then all other pyro units, but thats good in my oppinion, bennet and xianling need some competition
@@EdenVix you actually have zero idea what youre talking about. she was never powercreeping nuev. if she was going to, you should be crying because hutao already did because she does more dmg than neuv.
Nothing can save Neuvillette. I hate his style and will never pull him. Same goes to most of Fontaine characters.
Worse or not will pull cuz cute
i don’t have neuvillette so i don’t have anything to compare her to also i tend to pull for the character’s personality/lore rather than their kit, i mean imagine pulling a character you don’t even like because of their kit!? its just a waste of primos/money and time bc u have to build them
I am sure she will get buffed before release. Maybe not as buffed as some would like, but still…Either way, buff or nerf, I am not interested in her. Too many other Natlan Characters I really do want.
Mualani fell off
I don’t think so because she’s been heavily overshadowed by the other characters. Kinich is more popular than her in 5.0 and most of the later ones are definitely more popular than her
I think she’s only more popular than Kachina and Iansan tbh
4:58 no way bro animation cancelled the engagement pleas 😂😂😂
Even if she is powercreeps Neuvi, I will not pull for her. I have a well invested Neuvi with his signature, spent 200 wishes to get it and I still haven't recovered from it. My quota for on field Hydro DPS is complete and I am happy with his performance. I would rather pull for some other archetypes, make my existing characters stronger by getting their C1/C2 etc.
Same…. Also other Characters in Natlan that look far more interesting.
Same here, I invested a lot on him getting his C1 R1 and got Furina C1 last rerun, I am now focusing on Xianyun and Mavuika then to geo spectrum, like I didn't pull any geo 5 star for ages lol, rn I am trying my luck on Navia, if no then Chiori or that new geo from Natlan....
It’s already been long established that she failed to powercreep him, in fact she’s significantly worse with the nerfs
Note, she feels 10000x better to play now as she can stack while sticking on to enemies.
Can you elaborate? What was she like before?
Even unnerfed, she's only best in a vape team, she was never going to be better than Neuvi.
What does the team being vape have to do with being better?
She was better in ST, had considerably higher dps on boths best teams.
@@nexuhs. That's some inaccurate info man. You're not considering AoE or the feasibility of optimal use. Yes, her raw big #'s are higher, but her absolute peak DPS-wise was going to be about the same as Neuvillette, with significantly more skill required and losing out on the quality of life that Neuvi teams enjoy. This is why it's frustrating that they went back on the Neuvi bugfix, but nerfed Mualani into the dirt.
@@nexuhs. Neuvi is going to look a lot worse than he actually is if you just look at sheet numbers, he can attack the whole room at the same time, Mualani can't.
@nexuhs. dont forgot about how actually difficult it is to have enough offield pyro application uptime during her rotation to actually do the numbers her dmg sheet theoretically allows. With her needing to build enough stacks as well, its easy to imagine how her actual IRL numbers (outside of restarting abyss domains a few times for peak proformance or a very skilled player) even in ST would only be a bit better or possibly even be worse than nevuillete's. Someone whos basically babyproof in contrast. This nerf basically turned her from a new viable vape meta character into a harder to play childe international for no significant benefit
@@MasuraoShirokouu ofc, I said she was better in single target, neuvillette can have his AoE
I have so many hydro at this point that pulling her would just be a waste of primos,I don’t need any more hydro characters ( I have c2 furina and c1 neuvi) any new hydro characters is Just an extra
That’s facts, you already have the peak of Hydro move in to some other element 😂
She's like Navia in terms of dps. She's not a consistent dmg dealer but does big nuke dmg
not really. mualani requires difficult setup to do her damage. navia is as unga bunga as a reaction based team can get.
That is not true. Navia has the upside of being a frontloaded dps
@@_mako just saying she's not a consistent dmg dealer like Neuvillette. She does have big no. dmg
@@ceizhore4498 Mualani is very much frontloaded tho.
@@jijidu69 her dmg is more backloaded than frontloaded
Great news! Neuvi should be an exception not the standart. I already feel powercreep when trying to use older units. Also, Mualani is designed to play with pyro chars and may be significantly buffed by the archon
Not sure why u think it'd a good idea to keep things stagnant. If mihoyo makes proper support for old units to still clear content then power creep is welcome. Trying to have all character be relatively the same works against the very principle of gacha games.
@@shonenhikada9254 I'm not sure why you think it's a good idea to make units who are important in the game useless. Power crept will just make the game harder. Soon the proper support will be useless and another character will just be thrown in the bin. Some amount of power crept is fine however it can become an issue. Making everybody on the level of neuv would just make half the dps chars currently in the game useless or just replacable.
@@AlwaysThirstys 1. Making units in the game move from being top tier to less powerful Is not making them useless.
2. That is nature of how gacha games work. People who are sensible will not pull for characters that are worse or same level as a character they have already built up.
3. Power creep does not mean every character needs to be neuvilette level. This is a strawman argument. All it means is that mihoyo should not be afraid to make characters that super seed neuvilette.
4. Many genshin fans often say that the game is too easy that u can beat it with 4 star characters. Raising the difficulty Wil not make 1/2 dps unusable. This is just a fear u have.
5. That's not how supports work. Supports tend to have a long shelf life. When we say Power creep, we don't mean that in 1 month the latest character becomes useless. It means that a unit that was top tier 1 year ago should logically be moved to middle of the pack. Having a unit retain their spot as the best indefinitely will drive down sales and make things rather boring.
@@shonenhikada9254 and what about units who was mid from the release?
@@user-ex9bn5nc3u they need to get supports to boost them if they are a dps or wait for release of a character which can use them.
Example qiqi has always been meme as bad but found new use in clorinde team.
I guess I'm set to skipping her, and this makes 5.0 banners (raiden mulan/kazuha kinich) a big skip for me (although I have c1 raiden and c1 kazuha), more primogems for goatHIMtano I guess?
Since I really don't care about chaska and xilonen as characters, that leaves the wishlists for mavuika and goatHIMtano
Save for GOATmitano, you definitely don’t want to waste for an appetizer character like her
I recommend people save for one of the Natlan Big 3:
Mavuika, Xbalanque, or Capitano
Neuv, furina, jean and fisch in a team feels like a cheat tbh haha
You Know what its means. C6 Furina is still the Strongest DPS in the game. i.e. 2.3Million DMG per vape Plunge and max Upto 15 Million DMG per rotation with certain specific teams.
Is that with Furina on key, kazu c2 + freedom, and VV xianyun?
@@DefinitelyNotAFerret Kazuha C2 is not Necessary but if specific for more than 2million DMG then yes. otherwise a C0 team with just C6 Furina with key can do 1.6Million DMG.
@Tokyo-z6oit's not only boring but there's no content to use it on full potential lmao
@@mickysaifwhat i extactly felt when I tried a private server for once. Getting everyone c6r5 made the game boring so quickly I uninstalled it in like only a week
Shes still crazy strong..
Mah dragon boi still undisputed lol
Thank god the Hydro Dragon wasn't powercrept by random shark girl
Well, an archon was powercrept heavily by a random Canadian boy
@@ABC-yj6cyventi is an exception
Oh, so it's okay for Neuvillette to outshine every other character in the game, but it's not okay for new character to outshine Neuvillette.
Cool.
@@ABC-yj6cy lore accurate, why fight in the abyss when you can be drunk in the tavern?
@@ABC-yj6cy He wasn't power crept tbh, if Venti's suction works he'll likely perform better than Kazuha, most abyss 12 lineups just don't have more than 1-2 rooms Venti is effective in though with the amount of heavy enemies and bosses used there.
Think Venti is still sometimes the best option for a chamber anyway, but yeah he's more a utility unit who counters specific content than a main stay on any archetype.
No one can replace Hyrdro Otter Dragon
0:30 Beautiful Key of Khaj-Nisut Kazuha
Sad nerf. I guess Hoyo don't really want a direct rival DPS to the Hydro Sovereign yet. At least not this fast.
Tbh the idea kinda exciting : A hydro DPS that need tight reaction set up to succeed (like Hu Tao, Ganyu or Childe) vs comfy DPS like Neuvi or Arlle who can dish out long string high dmg attack even with flexible set up.
It's clear that they don't want any character to be as broken as Neuvi, they would've nerfed Neuvi too if they could.
Thats what y all get for overhyping before release, if everyone was silent this would have not happend.
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Nah, we all know you clicked coz you're itching for some leak content
GUYS SKIP TO @1:39 where it begins
😢 Poor mualani getting comparison to Hydro sovereign and getting nerfs
Honestly that candace team was the main reason I was excited
this is sadly the most skippable region for me. was very excited to see my latin culture represented but the characters and region seem so...unimpressive. i like adult units and only see myself pulling for Xilonen, Mauvika, Xbalanque(if hes an adult), and Capitano
Idk what you're talking about, they represented LatAm incredibly well.
Maulani is Hawaiian anyway tho lmfao.
@fatuusdottore it's mainly because most of the characters are paper white, but thats on me for getting my hopes up expecting some diversity in character design...and I know the region takes inspo from Latin America, Indigenous, African, and Polynesian cultures. It's just that the designs are...boring. like mualani barely has any clothing, and her markings just look like tan lines with how much they blend with her skin. Don't even get me started on the archon and her zipper that goes all the way, like I get fanservice, but that just seems over the top to the point of it being funny rather than attractive. Not what I imagined from the God of War. Olorun is just an edgy white guy with the name of THE Orisha that rules the heavens. That clorinde knock off is...yikes...and the dendro guys whole pixel thing is just throwing me off, like I can see that with a person from sumeru but even then it would still be off putting. Idk. Maybe if there were more dudes and/or adults for a land ravaged in war, I would like them, but natlan is just a disappointment to me.
They only represented nation till NPCs,added tons of darker skin tone NPCs to make it look as close as possible.@@tiredcoyotl
Yeah, I agree on the looks thing. Skin color aside, Maulani to me looks like a character that would happen if Japan adapted the look an islander would have if used in, say, Disney's Peter Pan.
@@fatuusdottoreno they do not, not lookwise. Hoyo just loves taking culture but leaving out colored ppl, bc they hate them
i skip her. got enough strong hydro (neuvi, yelan, furina, ayato)
anyway, they test the chars always first with c6... and we hear the nerf until CO
Happy they did, the power creep would be too big. Let’s applaud them not power creeping an already stupid OP character…
Also, she a dumb looking surf girl, not some crazy dragon archon. Wouldn’t make sense in any way to make her broken.
What? Bro what u talking about?
lore ≠ gameplay, she could have had a chance to be stronger. yk how hu tao is one of the most weakest characters in lore but one of the most strongest characters in gameplay?
@@j4depookieThat’s not the point, they already made Neuvillette’s kit stupidly broken, even Hoyo admitted themselves. Making Mualani more broken than that would just destroy the game balance
@@AmbroseVermillion International is good in AOE, calcs at 46k. Neuv has full chamber AOE, calcs at 77k. Both are still great teams, yet making a character comparable to him is just unbalanced.
I sincerely hope she's still strong, I don't want the main Mualani to receive the same treatment as Dehya(💀) but at the same time he was happy, he couldn't take it anymore to see amazing male main dps which are very strong and important in lore launch and shortly after being totally powercreep by a random girl who is probably very weak or irrelevant in the lore
mualani and neuv mains are fighting. meanwhile there is already a new 5* polearm hydro main dps rumored to drop in lantern rite patch (5.4).
Who?
@@el7284 ping probably
@@el7284 Madame Ping
Ah, Madam Ping. Oof.
Might be why Mualani got gutted
Clearly, Hoyoverse get scared because of the scandal they created by nerfing Neuvillette to sell Mualani. Now they nerfed Mualani to make sure the chinese community doesn't get mad again.
Honestly I’m glad they nerfed her because Mualani just represents Hoyoverse’s greed.
I mean why make her a Hydro catalyst like Neuvillette? They try to make her so unnecessarily busted just to make up for making Neuvillette so broken
@@leonvuitton what greed? like powercreep is pretty normal in other gacha games like hsr,pgr wuwa i hope she powercreep neuvi.
I'm glad they nerfed her, Neuvillette was one of Hoyo's biggest mistakes and I'm glad they are not following the same formula of powercreeping existing characters into oblivion like they do in hsr
GOD is it getting bad in HSR, so bad that a character may sometimes not even be worth pulling for on their first rerun. We thought things started to shake up with Acheron then FF took it a step further lmao.
I mean, Neuvillette is the flipping dragon sovereign of water and our first playable sovereign, the strongest being we've met so far, so i consider his broken damage an exception. 😅
What mistake?
Their mistake was Zhongli who should have been the strongest archon.
Neuvillette is the Hydro sovereign so he's even stronger than the archons since their power is actually stolen from the dragons
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643 Why should lore dictate power level? Zhongli should be able to one shot everyone that isn't an archon/neuvillette if lore was a factor. It's such a dumb excuse to say Neuvillette being broken is fine because he is a sovereign, no other unit gets that privilege. Zhongli can be a shieldbot despite being one of the most feared archons, Wanderer can be mid af despite being an harbinger... but Neuvillette has to be broken because he is a sovereign?
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643 Lore has never been proportional to power in this game though. Some of the strongest units in Genshin are complete randoms story-wise. Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Fischl, Kazuha, Hu Tao, Nilou etc, none of them have any lore reason to be remotely powerful yet here we are
I don't think this is anything to be mad over. She's still looking pretty meta and she still has an entire pyro archon to buff her
Neuvillette was never in danger, he will just say
" According to oratrice mechaniq dyAnylse cardinal, Mihoyo is guilty"
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0:00 GUYS 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Maybe the nerfs were a touch too much as you say, hopefully they get tuned up a smidge again. She was completely broken in her previous state so I'm not surprised by this. As a Mualani wanter and non-Neuvilette haver I still think it would be healthier for the game if they were closer in numbers. While yes I like the idea of her having a higher ceiling due to a more complicated playstyle and rotation I don't think that she should outcompete him in his own niche.
How was she outcompeting him in his own niche when his AoE is practically the entire abyss floor while hers is average? Now post-nerf, he's also around her level more or less in ST while still being miles more optimal to play. I fail to see any upside to her kit in comparison currently
neuv and mualani are not competition, they dont even use the same teams, she was never neuv powercreep, so i dont understand the neuv mains being happy with this. Comparing both units is like comparing alhaitham with kinich
They both do hydro dmg, competition is made to see whichever team does a better job at doing more hydro dmg, it’s not that deep
I'm a neuvillette main and any new hydro DPS doesn't concern me unless they're comfy to use and do insane AOE like neuvillette
@@episode4882 literally anyone saying she was powercreeping neuv has braindead sheepmentality and followed the words of some randos on reddit lol.
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 but she did powercreep Neuvillette in beta V1, yes her AOE coverage was/is not as high as Neuvillette, but her personal dmg is so high that she 1 hit smaller/elite enemies so there’s no need for her to have high AOE coverage to do well in AOE
I’m surprised Hoyo nerfed her, cause idk how else they are gotta sell her if her meta value isn’t higher than Neuvillette or equal to Neuvillette, plus with all the drama going on in CN over the past couple months, lots and lots of players are quitting the game
@@episode4882 no she never powercrept neuv. Go look at hutao and think to yourself about why neuv is played and pulled more than her, despite hutao dealing more single target dmg. Or better yet, why nobody lost their shit that nuev was terrible because he does less single target dmg than hutao?
The reasons youve thought up are the same reasons why nuev is still better mualani.
Huge aoe, self sustain, easy to use, no range issues, etc. Or lyney. The character whose max theoretical dmg surpasses both arle and nuev at c0. Nuev is easy to play and requires no thought whatsoever to drown an entire room by just spinning.
They relaised they where making a tanned character too broke and they back pedal it 😂
Im kinda glad that she got a nerf because she at least still has the Skill Ceiling dmg for Neuvillette and already creeping him was gonna be a wild time
You said that Neuvillette can do damage to all the enemies in the room consistently.
I think we can’t expect Hoyoverse to balance future characters based on that. They won’t balance characters based on an exploit they failed to fix in time.
She's better than the dendro boy ?
Probably not anymore thanks to the nerfs. Popularity wise Dendro Boy has her thrashed
Mualani will have Mavuika, calm down guys
And so will Neuvillette. Pyro Archon plus Hydro Dragon plus Hydro Archon team would slap
I think it is fair to nerf her, maybe they might even nerf her a bit more.
Since she seems to be the sort of character that will need a strong, off field pyro sub dps, that has Natlan mechanics - Probably the Natlan archon.
Bad take.
0:38 star light jumpscare
Clorinde flashbacks. Copers are gonna cope and say this fine. Simps are gonna simp and say they'd pull even if she healed enemies. And once again Genshin gets away with shipping a mid female unit that can cost up to 400 euros.
"Le eviiiil Doomposters" have been correct for a year straight. Hope people don't memory hole it all.
Just grind the pulls nerd. Brother forgot nobody is forcing him to pay for the game. Its free. I've been playing free on and off for almost 4 years.
Also clorinde is top 10 dps. And she is top 5 for speedruning right now, at C0 and C6. At C6 she is pushing top 4 just below arle, neuv, lyney and wriothesley.
@@putent9623 an example of copers coping ☝️
ok bro i do not think its that deep... mid? really?
Imagine playing neuvilette instead of Mualani in speedrun 😂
Edit: Just like alhaitham get rekt by every character (even tighnari) in speedruns lol
Tho neuvilette is still good in speedruns. But he won't be close to Mualani in speedruns.
In the first place, even she didn’t get nerfed, player don’t really need dps who launch nuke in short window. That’s only for satisfaction but unnecessary. Especially when hoyo made annoying boss such like wenut and players rampaged and flooded with negative feedback.
I love that they keep Neuvilette an exceptional mistake. Better than making him a new norm and forcing us to ditch most of character we have.
Still praying for kinich 🙏
the dude got buffed and i'm hoping it can stay that way but who knows what hoyo will be thinking.
Hoyo beating the powercreep allegations, you love to see it.
I'm pretty sure Hoyoverse took out their frustration from not being able to nerf Neuvillette, and being forced to apologize and give out compensation, on Mualani. They said fuck this, you want Neuvillette to be overpowered, fine, we're not gonna introduce powercreep or make this hot girl in a bikini deal more damage than one of the Elemental Dragon Sovereigns, so enjoy your mid-at-best new 5* hydro DPS.
XDDDDD
or they would be almost sued again and doxxed for making a new character better than neuvi 😭 but they HAVE to accept that one day he will be powercrept. I mean just imagine how hu tao mains felt when arlecchino released, but they didnt complain
I am doomed
I have Yelan, Kokomi, Nilou, Ayato, Furina and i want Neuvillette and Mualani but i cannot justify getting more hydros as f2p 😭
GUYS. Its Mualanover
range, aoe, self sustain, evasion, rotation flexibility, skill ceiling, and finally damage
can mualani even hold a candle against neuv in any of those categories except damage? please stop with the mualani vs neuv trope and focus on debating on a more meaningful and interesting topic, you're contributing to the build up of bullshit in this community, do better.
Imo, makes every new character in Neuvi level really makes me woried lol 😂. Cuz in know powercreep in gacha, but i dont wanna my old character get dump cuz their damage not relevant.
She still need nerf and see if still good. Cuz nuke damage in short rotation kinda disgusting to see
If they design her like neuvillette then her c1 eill just put her back to pre-nerf + infinite skill uptime
5:03 bruh😭
bro was in a hurry😭