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@@Nicholas_Steel That's just how being an early adopter works. Remember when Alienware released a better monitor for $100 cheaper like 2 months after the first round of QD OLED monitors hit the scene? Display tech has been on a race for price-to-performance for decades at this point, and it still hasn't even slowed down yet. Buying any display basically comes with the semi-unspoken rule that you know your purchase will be for an almost immediately obsolete product.
This. 120Hz is pretty low by modern high-end monitor standards today. In a couple generations, things will probably be a different story, but I like the idea of having a "Gaming Monitor" and a "Content Monitor", where each one is optimized for their purpose. Ideal panels would hit both, obviously, but again, that's still a few generations off for now.
This looks awesome. The final thing that has been preventing me from moving to OLED has been that subpixel. Now, it looks like I'll finally move over when these hit the market
Now we are getting the proper OLEDs! And a general purpose 120 hz refreshrate. No ridiculous 240-480 hz monstrosities that requires a super computer to run. All I am wondering: will it come in 32", and will it be available in Europe too? TCL is generally only available in USA afaik
@Avruthlelbh I'm not buying a 4K monitor to run it in 1080p.... 🤷🏼♂️ But sure; I mostly play older titles these days. But with the exception titanfall 2 (which I really cant handle anymore 👴🏼), I do not require more than 120 hz. For me accurate colors is more important for my photo editing. And I will argue that, most people who are not playing fps games will not notice much difference after 144 hz. They claim they will, but wont. Again, in shooters it is immediately noticeable. And racing games.
250/600 nits is on par with cheap non-miniLED LCD panels, depending on how cost efficient this manufacturing process really is we might see entry level oled monitors in the $150-$600 range
You must correct at the beginning that actually LG and Asus sell OLED monitors intended for productivity and editing with RGB sub pixel layouts because they use panels from J OLED not W-OLEDs from LG Display or QD-OLEDs from Samsung Display.
@@hombrepepega3472 Macbooks do have competitive prices if you compare to their actual competitors. If you compare it to machines that use worse components then yes they are higher
@ see, that’s the thing. There seems to be a new OLED version every week. Then people complain “such and such OLED is bad but such and such OLED will improve on that”. But those displays are €700+ so you want to keep it for some time.
@ A fool and his money are easily parted, meanwhile there are those who have been enjoying perfect 1440p image & motion since 1999. Though I'm ready for something new, I want CRT image quality on a 32" 16:10 monitor.
@@Wobble2007 Yeah, that's also a problem. They don't make them in 16:10 unfortunately. All 16:9, which isn't bad but for productivity and retro Gaming, I prefer more squarish aspect ratios (obviously).
@ Yeah I'm not a fan of 16:9 for PC and retro gaming, give me 16:10, or even better, 3:2 (the golden ratio), would say no to a 16:12 (4:3) RGB-OLED either.
"Slightly better than above average" is what people who actually aren't say all of the time. Dunning-Kruger in full effect. I can confidently say this as someone with 30/5 vision, the hearing of a greater wax moth and the sense of smell of an elephant. 😺
RGB-OLED is ridiculously resilient, just look at the PSVita RGB-OLED panel (mine looks as good as it did day one after years of abuse), or Sony RGB-OLED BVM's, they are almost impossible to burn-in by accident. Real triple emitter OLED is a completely different animal to WOLED or QD-OLED single emitter OLED displays.
@@Wobble2007 Hell, QD-OLED is already basically impervious to unintentional burn-in. Even the people doing it on purpose are barely able to cause damage after months upon months of trying.
@@That_Russian404 I thought that in the contemporary they had studied some intelligent solution... here we have to wait for the micro LEDs to arrive at a popular price
@@haukikannel However, on many smartphone models with OLED displays the problem still persists. There are also numerous videos here on RUclips documenting it
In truth, RGB-OLED is unbelievably resilient, PS Vita's that have had over a decade of abuse still looking as good as day one, RGB-OLED monitors without so much a pixel of image persistence after 10 years of heavy use, it's a paper tiger guys, now days it isn't even that.
Thanks for reporting on this. But unfortunately this looks much more inferior to current options of QD-OLED and WOLED with exception of true RGB arrangement. The refresh rate of 120Hz and 250nits for 100% windows brightness is not adequate, and how long will TCL take to make this into mass production. It also beggs me, why all the manufacturers are pushing back matte display coating since people would like an option for a glossy panel for better clarity :/
@@AhmadAli-kv2ho I have a woled that has a full screen brightness of about ~280 nits and all I have qualms with are dimly lit scenes in games and movies.
The inkjet isnt particularly unique about the panel as I'm pretty sure Samsung has moved to inkjet for their latest 5 layer panels headed to the TV market as well. I wonder if the RGB affects longevity, since clasically blue OLEDs don't last as long. Samsung employs stacking to combat this, since they use blue OLEDs for their luminescent layer. Though this should have far greater color performance than even QD-OLED because the lack of a color filter should give purer waveforms of each primary color. This all depends on the luma performance, since if it isnt bright you can't get the same levels of volume.
@randysalsman6992 the quantum dot layer is a type of filter. It's just a filter that powered by quantum dots produces color gamut almost exactly the same as having no filter at all.
Monitor manufacturers having to invent new manufacturing techniques just because Microsoft and Apple cant be arsed to update their subpixel rendering for years now is just sad.
250 nits ain’t nothing though. the ipad pro has true RGB pixels, but also 1000 nits of fullscreen brightness. sustained!! at this pace it will take 5-7 years for OLED monitors to catch up
The next best thing however, as RGB-OLED have phosphor based RED & GREEN OLED emitter subpixels, it's only BLUE that hasn't managed to crack phosphor based yet, it uses fluorescent, but RGB-OLED is 2 parts phosphor based, unlike WOLED and QD-OLED, which are just fluorescent BLUE or WHITE "OLED".
Subpixel structure doesn't matter for text clarity on a 4K 27" monitor, the pixel density is high enough to make it irrelevant. It was significantly minimized at 4K 32" and eliminated at 4K 27". 120 Hz is also half the speed of competing 4K OLED monitors. Inkjet printed OLEDs have also traditionally had terrible longevity (they burn in very fast), but that may have improved, hard to know. The one thing that this panel might have going for it could be cost.
Disagree, still very relevant. Text still looks poor on WOLED and QDOLED compared to IPS. At least with the way Windows 11 renders fonts. And no, all the TrueType workarounds do not truly solve the problem.
@ that’s a 32”, it has a lower pixel density. And it’s a WOLED, which isn’t as clear as QD-OLED to begin with (though LG’s newer WOLED monitor panels have a revised subpixel ordering to improve text clarity)
Honestly I'd be happy with just a non-mini LED SSIPS Black Gen 3 (3000:1 contrast) gaming monitor @ 32" 4K 160+Hz. Bonus points if high CRI full array backlit (no dimming zones) I'd pay serious $ for that
It would be interesting to see the effect a fine pitch mask has on perceived resolution of a multi-layer RGB-OLED, we're talking micro-fine now days though.
Can the Chinese invent something themselves? LG has sold TCL its IPS matrix factories, so they are putting something on display at the exhibition, deceiving you)
I regret buying a QD-OLED 1440p monitor for $400, the text rendering looks like garbage, my old 12 year old 1440p IPS monitor looks better for text rendering. I love my QD-OLED for gaming and for watching videos, but for text, I still prefer my old B-grade QNIX monitor I bought for under $200 12 years ago. This TCL monitor looks like it’s going to be the holy grail of monitors now, hope they can bring the cost down. I’ll probably not buy it right away because I won’t be able to afford it, but maybe in a few years. For now I’ll keep using both my old monitor and my new QD-OLED.
It doesn't look like an OLED monitor and it's not shiny gloss. It's more like a Matte gloss finish. TCL is a China product, be very very careful with those brands as they might be cheating you or just aren't trendy.
@@andreamaral9725 lol completely wrong, if you used a 240 hz monitor and you compare how that feels to a 120 hz monitor its a huge difference, even 165 hz to 240 hz is huge
haven't tried high refresh qd but my high refresh LG dual mode is Woled and it looks awful. The greys have a red tint and the screen flicker while using VRR makes the porygon episode look like a joke. Makes me want to go back to IPS till OLED is perfect
@MyTiredAccount Yes I tried the LG 32GS95UV as well and returned it within days for the reasons you mention plus text looks like crap. Returned it and got another IPS and my eyeballs and headaches are better off for it. So glad I didn't stubbornly try to convince myself it was worth it.
@@MyTiredAccount QD also suffers from VRR flicker. With both technologies, you have to keep the framerate stable to get reasonably flicker-free experience.
If ink jet is making it then get ready for a new monitor every month lose 1/3 rgb and cyan will act as black and blue and you’ll need to replace by the end of the week
Every single one of my RGB-OLED is as good as day one, I have 12-year-old RGB-OLED monitors that look stunning and much better than my brand new Sony 480Hz QD-OLED, RGB-OLED is such a resilient tech, not to mention don't have any dimming and perfect uniform full-screen brightness.
Either 5K144hz or a 16:10 3840x2400 240hz would be amazing. I'm still bitter that the LG 5K2K is only 165hz, and it's going to cost the same as a top of the line TV so that's just a bad value.
Lol, it's going to take at least 5 years to reduce the cost for MicroLED from 100k to 10k for TVs. Probably you'll get also in 5 years the first MicroLED desktop monitor, and it's going to be 1080p at 32 inches for 5k. Plenty of time for OLEDs to thrive.
Micro led is still at least 10 years in the futulemlikemit has been last 20 years… Micro led seems to be impossible to manufacture at price that would be compatative. And only in big sizes because they can not make leds smaller… so we get 720p 40” or 4K 130” or 1080p at 65”…. And even that is really hard…
Lol, 120 hz is all you can get at 4k with a DisplayPort 1.4 connection. Even with the DP standard moving on, it would be still decent, considering you'll need the most high end GPU and 4X frame generation, to hit the target. Repeat your comment in 5 years or so.
1. This is a prototype, a 2. even 120Hz is enough for rolling-scan, which is what you want to be using anyway, but the commercial model will be using at least 480Hz, perhaps 600Hz.
I returned my 32-inch 4K QD-OLED monitor because of the color fringing. This monitor will be perfect for me once it can reach 300 nits fullscreen and 1000 nits peak
It most certainly does not you have now idea Rgb is what every company is aiming for wider colour than qd this company was original called Japan display opened by sony and Panasonic sold yo tcl Samsung HD is no match to RGB you may not be aware samsungvwill be using HINSENCE RGB micro led and tri colour led tv
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Bruh, why are you calling semi-glossy screens "glossy"? They are not glossy.
RGB Oled from TCL CSOT have been "coming soon" for 3 years now. I'll believe it when I can buy it.
Is "average brightness" really full screen brightness though? Are you sure you haven't misinterpreted them?
"AL-LEG-ED-LY" was a deep cut brother
😂😂😂
Why he keeps doing that I can not comprehend
@juanblanco7898 think it's kinda funny though 😂
The coating last year looked better it was proper glossy this looks more like semi matte.
They had to ruin it 🙄
Agreed…these companies can’t help but destroying picture quality with dumb matte coatings.
who cares u sure ash won't notice the difference ur ass prolly wears glasses anyway
Semie matte is better then complete matte
@bren.r Samsung started this crap old tech from lcd as consumers love this can you imagine that 🤣
Aren’t these essentially the panels from the defunct JOLED company? Glad to see the product finally made it to market.
I was wondering whatever happened to them, glad to get more competition in the oled space.
Yes, CSOT aquired JOLED printing machines, so its logical to assume so.
Better brightness and lower price sounds awesome. Thumbs up!
Unfortunately since it's brand new tech in the consumer space that needs to recoup design costs... expect absurd prices for the first couple years.
Lower prices for a manufacturer don't equal to lower prices for consumers.
@@Nicholas_Steel Tlc is known for their lower prices though.
@@Nicholas_Steel That's just how being an early adopter works. Remember when Alienware released a better monitor for $100 cheaper like 2 months after the first round of QD OLED monitors hit the scene? Display tech has been on a race for price-to-performance for decades at this point, and it still hasn't even slowed down yet. Buying any display basically comes with the semi-unspoken rule that you know your purchase will be for an almost immediately obsolete product.
RGB OLED. That sounds good.
Where is the 8k IJP RGB OLED Glassless 3D displays TCL announced like a year ago?
Probably scrapped like all 3D ones others seem to. I only saw one from Samsung that looked alright.
I dont even think about it for gaming. This would be a dream for content browsing and content creating.
This. 120Hz is pretty low by modern high-end monitor standards today. In a couple generations, things will probably be a different story, but I like the idea of having a "Gaming Monitor" and a "Content Monitor", where each one is optimized for their purpose. Ideal panels would hit both, obviously, but again, that's still a few generations off for now.
Finally TCL CSOT now making OLED panels. Instead of LED and Mini LED panels
True RGB subpixel layout
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0:43 nice oily-grainy effect on a matte oled. who asked for this?buaaaa.
it looks more like what i imagined OLED looking like before, an IPS looking panel with true blacks
This looks awesome. The final thing that has been preventing me from moving to OLED has been that subpixel. Now, it looks like I'll finally move over when these hit the market
0:08 accurate description
Is that the same one they had at CES 2023?
全然だめだったJOLEDの技術が日の目を見てほしい気持ちがある
Now we are getting the proper OLEDs! And a general purpose 120 hz refreshrate. No ridiculous 240-480 hz monstrosities that requires a super computer to run.
All I am wondering: will it come in 32", and will it be available in Europe too? TCL is generally only available in USA afaik
You really don't need a super computer to hit 240hz. Depending on the game and settings, you could hit that with a 3060.
@Avruthlelbh I'm not buying a 4K monitor to run it in 1080p.... 🤷🏼♂️ But sure; I mostly play older titles these days. But with the exception titanfall 2 (which I really cant handle anymore 👴🏼), I do not require more than 120 hz. For me accurate colors is more important for my photo editing.
And I will argue that, most people who are not playing fps games will not notice much difference after 144 hz. They claim they will, but wont. Again, in shooters it is immediately noticeable. And racing games.
250/600 nits is on par with cheap non-miniLED LCD panels, depending on how cost efficient this manufacturing process really is we might see entry level oled monitors in the $150-$600 range
120Hz - what year is this?
When are they expected to hit market? Wonder if the 27" gaming MNT monitor will feature things like Dolby Vision?
You must correct at the beginning that actually LG and Asus sell OLED monitors intended for productivity and editing with RGB sub pixel layouts because they use panels from J OLED not W-OLEDs from LG Display or QD-OLEDs from Samsung Display.
Which monitors made by LG and Asus currently use panels from J OLED?
@@azaeldrm 27GR95QE-B this one
@@yeah-yeah2249 That monitor has a RWBG subpixel layout.
My question is, in the event that QDEL ever actually gets off the ground, how would an RGB backlight compare?
Infinite contrast at the micro level.
@@18yearsoldnot would that not be the case for QDEL
Wooo this is promissing. Maybe they can make some glossy ones …!
How is LG G5 and Panasonic text RGB olde layered
Cost
Please tell me this has USB C with power delivery that I can connect to my MacBook for a reasonable price. I’ll buy it right now
Yawn it's TCL
Bro's talking about reasonable price but uses macbook 💀💀
@@RayyanShariff-yz4gm inkjet OLED is not out yet
@@hombrepepega3472 Macbooks do have competitive prices if you compare to their actual competitors. If you compare it to machines that use worse components then yes they are higher
@@hombrepepega3472 bro spent all his money on the MacBook 🤣
Still not pholed though right?
Get rid of that god-awful matte finish or I won't even consider it
Well said. I don know why there is a trend of Matte lately. I cant even look at
F it. I’ll just buy a CRT.
Still the beset option if image quality and motion quality is important to you, for now at least, Tandem-PHOLED with rolling-scan is on the horizon.
@ see, that’s the thing. There seems to be a new OLED version every week. Then people complain “such and such OLED is bad but such and such OLED will improve on that”. But those displays are €700+ so you want to keep it for some time.
@ A fool and his money are easily parted, meanwhile there are those who have been enjoying perfect 1440p image & motion since 1999. Though I'm ready for something new, I want CRT image quality on a 32" 16:10 monitor.
@@Wobble2007 Yeah, that's also a problem. They don't make them in 16:10 unfortunately. All 16:9, which isn't bad but for productivity and retro Gaming, I prefer more squarish aspect ratios (obviously).
@ Yeah I'm not a fan of 16:9 for PC and retro gaming, give me 16:10, or even better, 3:2 (the golden ratio), would say no to a 16:12 (4:3) RGB-OLED either.
Is there TCO monitor releasing or is this just a concept for now?
I don't know of any game in HDR that fully utilizes the Rec.2020 color space. Does anyone know of such a game?
I have a LG OLED and text looks fine
"Slightly better than above average" is what people who actually aren't say all of the time. Dunning-Kruger in full effect.
I can confidently say this as someone with 30/5 vision, the hearing of a greater wax moth and the sense of smell of an elephant. 😺
So no burn in during 4 days… I am not very impressed about that…
RGB-OLED is ridiculously resilient, just look at the PSVita RGB-OLED panel (mine looks as good as it did day one after years of abuse), or Sony RGB-OLED BVM's, they are almost impossible to burn-in by accident. Real triple emitter OLED is a completely different animal to WOLED or QD-OLED single emitter OLED displays.
@@Wobble2007 Hell, QD-OLED is already basically impervious to unintentional burn-in. Even the people doing it on purpose are barely able to cause damage after months upon months of trying.
oh I hope they'll make a QD-OLED TV with DV & HDR10+
150 nits for full screeen was normal... in 2016 TV's.
250 is typical brightness
with RGB line OLED monitors, the problem BURN IN has been resolved?
I think not. It hasn't nothing to do with how you put color pixels. It has to do with the technology itself.
@@That_Russian404 I thought that in the contemporary they had studied some intelligent solution... here we have to wait for the micro LEDs to arrive at a popular price
With oled… burn in is newer solved. Organic Light Emission Display allways will get old because it is organic…
@@haukikannel However, on many smartphone models with OLED displays the problem still persists. There are also numerous videos here on RUclips documenting it
In truth, RGB-OLED is unbelievably resilient, PS Vita's that have had over a decade of abuse still looking as good as day one, RGB-OLED monitors without so much a pixel of image persistence after 10 years of heavy use, it's a paper tiger guys, now days it isn't even that.
Thanks for reporting on this. But unfortunately this looks much more inferior to current options of QD-OLED and WOLED with exception of true RGB arrangement.
The refresh rate of 120Hz and 250nits for 100% windows brightness is not adequate, and how long will TCL take to make this into mass production.
It also beggs me, why all the manufacturers are pushing back matte display coating since people would like an option for a glossy panel for better clarity :/
QD-oled full screen brightness is like 280 nits. As per the video, this should have about 300nits if and when it comes to market.
@@Masaim6500 nits is the minmum and 120hz is acceptable for most people
@@AhmadAli-kv2ho I have a woled that has a full screen brightness of about ~280 nits and all I have qualms with are dimly lit scenes in games and movies.
@@AhmadAli-kv2ho Yeah, but giga said Qd-Oled is better than this technology because of brightness, when it's only slightly brighter.
@Masaim6 wdym? It cheaper and brighter?the refresh isnt a problem for most people and sastisfactory for the majority of gamers
I would by it as son as it comes out
And you know what is better? TCL is almost an LCD (specially VA [HVA]) focused compa y. They developing 4K 1000Hz VA panels.
Can they bring this to TVs next year🗣️🤞
Oled is so close to being perfect, they just need to up full screen brightness a little so dimly lit content looks better.
I want a flat 27" RGB-Micro LED Gaming Monitor !!!!
To expensive and less yield for consumer market
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I would just wait till Oled comes down in price and burn in, full screen brightness improve.
@Masaim6 we have now 400 nits full screen and 4000 nits plus 3% window on Samsung QD-OLED display named S95F
@wblebon I will never use a TV as a monitor.
The inkjet isnt particularly unique about the panel as I'm pretty sure Samsung has moved to inkjet for their latest 5 layer panels headed to the TV market as well. I wonder if the RGB affects longevity, since clasically blue OLEDs don't last as long. Samsung employs stacking to combat this, since they use blue OLEDs for their luminescent layer. Though this should have far greater color performance than even QD-OLED because the lack of a color filter should give purer waveforms of each primary color. This all depends on the luma performance, since if it isnt bright you can't get the same levels of volume.
QD-OLED doesn't use a color filter, I mean it's right there in the name. lol
@randysalsman6992 the quantum dot layer is a type of filter. It's just a filter that powered by quantum dots produces color gamut almost exactly the same as having no filter at all.
She thought there was nothing wrong looking at text through a matte, text fringed display. I had to leave her
No MATTE COATINGS
Not a single image that would show its actual performance with text. So all that is only allegedly.
Monitor manufacturers having to invent new manufacturing techniques just because Microsoft and Apple cant be arsed to update their subpixel rendering for years now is just sad.
250 nits ain’t nothing though. the ipad pro has true RGB pixels, but also 1000 nits of fullscreen brightness. sustained!! at this pace it will take 5-7 years for OLED monitors to catch up
Bump it up to 42inches and 240hz and I’ll pay out the nose for it.
looks nothing like glossy coating
We need a Gamechanger, like QD-OLED with MLA Elite Pro with upwards of 70,000 nits and a contrast of 1 trillion to 1.
OLEDs already have a better contrast ratio than 1 trillion to 1, since they have an infinite contrast ratio.
70k nits? Wanna be blind forever? Even the sun is less bright...
I want this so bad. Wonder when this bad boy will be available in the EU. Probably 2026. Or never, lol
The next best thing however, as RGB-OLED have phosphor based RED & GREEN OLED emitter subpixels, it's only BLUE that hasn't managed to crack phosphor based yet, it uses fluorescent, but RGB-OLED is 2 parts phosphor based, unlike WOLED and QD-OLED, which are just fluorescent BLUE or WHITE "OLED".
Finally no more shitty qd-oled fringing
aren't mobile and Laptop OLEDs True RGB?? Staring at my few year old Asus Oled laptop screen, and text is clear AF
Probably they are using Super AMOLED Plus, which is beautiful full RGB-Stripe subpixel based.
@@Wobble2007 Yup! Wonder why besides mobile, laptop, and Ipad, we don't have those on bigger monitors
We need 3D back
Ah, yes. 120hz "gaming" monitor
Subpixel structure doesn't matter for text clarity on a 4K 27" monitor, the pixel density is high enough to make it irrelevant. It was significantly minimized at 4K 32" and eliminated at 4K 27". 120 Hz is also half the speed of competing 4K OLED monitors. Inkjet printed OLEDs have also traditionally had terrible longevity (they burn in very fast), but that may have improved, hard to know. The one thing that this panel might have going for it could be cost.
Disagree, still very relevant. Text still looks poor on WOLED and QDOLED compared to IPS. At least with the way Windows 11 renders fonts. And no, all the TrueType workarounds do not truly solve the problem.
@ that was true at 27” 1440p, but at 4K 27”, the pixel density is high enough the subpixel structure isn’t visible.
@@guspaz I just returned an LG 32GS95UV over this. Text looked very poor compared to all of my 32 inch 4k IPS displays. Wasn't even close.
@ that’s a 32”, it has a lower pixel density. And it’s a WOLED, which isn’t as clear as QD-OLED to begin with (though LG’s newer WOLED monitor panels have a revised subpixel ordering to improve text clarity)
@@guspaz LG's newest woled should provide the best text clarity vs qd-oled. It's still terrible. Going from 140PPI to 163PPI isn't the cure.
Honestly I'd be happy with just a non-mini LED SSIPS Black Gen 3 (3000:1 contrast) gaming monitor @ 32" 4K 160+Hz. Bonus points if high CRI full array backlit (no dimming zones)
I'd pay serious $ for that
those qdoleds awful for text and here's the contender from another company by the way this video is sponsored by a qdoled monitors company thanks guys
I just want an 8k 32 inch 120 hz monitor so i fan finally play red dead 2 it's meant to be played😭
Maybe possible using inkjet but using a regulars shadow mask it becomes too difficult to manufacture
ain't no way im playing red dead 2 on 120hz, 500hz minimum
Nah I will take my MSI QD-Oled 175 hz 34' 21:9 every single day (I hate 27' monitors, they are just to small) 😅
The return of the Trinitron grill?!
It would be interesting to see the effect a fine pitch mask has on perceived resolution of a multi-layer RGB-OLED, we're talking micro-fine now days though.
Can the Chinese invent something themselves? LG has sold TCL its IPS matrix factories, so they are putting something on display at the exhibition, deceiving you)
I regret buying a QD-OLED 1440p monitor for $400, the text rendering looks like garbage, my old 12 year old 1440p IPS monitor looks better for text rendering. I love my QD-OLED for gaming and for watching videos, but for text, I still prefer my old B-grade QNIX monitor I bought for under $200 12 years ago. This TCL monitor looks like it’s going to be the holy grail of monitors now, hope they can bring the cost down. I’ll probably not buy it right away because I won’t be able to afford it, but maybe in a few years. For now I’ll keep using both my old monitor and my new QD-OLED.
It doesn't look like an OLED monitor and it's not shiny gloss. It's more like a Matte gloss finish. TCL is a China product, be very very careful with those brands as they might be cheating you or just aren't trendy.
😊 those r google OS. Google filters evrything
Is this matted???? NOOOOO i dont like matted. I need--ADS-PRO screen by BOE :)
Meh
It’s still OLED slop for monitors
we want 240 hz not 120 hz
@@andreamaral9725 lol completely wrong, if you used a 240 hz monitor and you compare how that feels to a 120 hz monitor its a huge difference, even 165 hz to 240 hz is huge
make 240Hz
rtx 5000 ain't offering you performance. they offer you fake as fuk frames.
Hey, at least they’re trying… QD still dominating the market currently, esp at higher refresh
haven't tried high refresh qd but my high refresh LG dual mode is Woled and it looks awful. The greys have a red tint and the screen flicker while using VRR makes the porygon episode look like a joke. Makes me want to go back to IPS till OLED is perfect
@ Love my current QD panels & think the 500hz has a ton of promise
@MyTiredAccount Yes I tried the LG 32GS95UV as well and returned it within days for the reasons you mention plus text looks like crap.
Returned it and got another IPS and my eyeballs and headaches are better off for it. So glad I didn't stubbornly try to convince myself it was worth it.
@@MyTiredAccount QD also suffers from VRR flicker. With both technologies, you have to keep the framerate stable to get reasonably flicker-free experience.
@ do you have the monitor i'm talking about or are you just yapping? Cause it's insane with completely stable fps
people still talking about text fringing?
Yes, because text is still terrible in Windows 11 on current gen OLED monitors compared to IPS.
If ink jet is making it then get ready for a new monitor every month lose 1/3 rgb and cyan will act as black and blue and you’ll need to replace by the end of the week
Every single one of my RGB-OLED is as good as day one, I have 12-year-old RGB-OLED monitors that look stunning and much better than my brand new Sony 480Hz QD-OLED, RGB-OLED is such a resilient tech, not to mention don't have any dimming and perfect uniform full-screen brightness.
120hz, no thanks!
What I wouldn't give for a 36" 5K144hz OLED right now.
Either 5K144hz or a 16:10 3840x2400 240hz would be amazing.
I'm still bitter that the LG 5K2K is only 165hz, and it's going to cost the same as a top of the line TV so that's just a bad value.
@@andreamaral9725 Get a 240hz monitor and you will disagree.
impressive china creat really OLED ? omfg indepandace impressive usa bad really usa not existe in the domaine ? ofmg
Too small and resolution too low. Looking for 45” at 5120 by 2160
Did you see LG folding QD-OLED 5k2k?
@@MadLadsAnonymous That wasn't QD Oled, Samsung are the ones producing QD Oleds. LG makes WOleds with matte coating.
Nah shitty monitor its not Glossy.
I think true oled monitors are too late. MicroLED will probably come before this tech becomes mainstream like normal oled
I don't think so, at this point microled seems to be in an eternal CES limbo.
Lol, it's going to take at least 5 years to reduce the cost for MicroLED from 100k to 10k for TVs. Probably you'll get also in 5 years the first MicroLED desktop monitor, and it's going to be 1080p at 32 inches for 5k. Plenty of time for OLEDs to thrive.
Micro led is still at least 10 years in the futulemlikemit has been last 20 years…
Micro led seems to be impossible to manufacture at price that would be compatative. And only in big sizes because they can not make leds smaller… so we get 720p 40” or 4K 130” or 1080p at 65”…. And even that is really hard…
250 nits and 120hz I’m good
It ain't for sale yet, just showing where it's currently at.
At 4k 27", the sub pixel layout probably doesn't even matter.
Exactly what I was thinking..
Who cares for subpixel layout whent it has 166ppi😂
100%. PPI is what's important, not the overall resolution.
@@michael-4k4000He wasn't even talking about resolution. lol
TCL is cheap for a reason, One you won't like!
120hz is a joke
Not for me and I play competitively.
Lol, 120 hz is all you can get at 4k with a DisplayPort 1.4 connection. Even with the DP standard moving on, it would be still decent, considering you'll need the most high end GPU and 4X frame generation, to hit the target. Repeat your comment in 5 years or so.
1. This is a prototype, a 2. even 120Hz is enough for rolling-scan, which is what you want to be using anyway, but the commercial model will be using at least 480Hz, perhaps 600Hz.
I say this because I've been playing at this for 4 years now, the only upgrade being a different sub pixel layout is lackluster to me
I returned my 32-inch 4K QD-OLED monitor because of the color fringing.
This monitor will be perfect for me once it can reach 300 nits fullscreen and 1000 nits peak
Samsung 27” 5k 220ppi blows this sh*t out of the water.
It most certainly does not you have now idea Rgb is what every company is aiming for wider colour than qd this company was original called Japan display opened by sony and Panasonic sold yo tcl Samsung HD is no match to RGB you may not be aware samsungvwill be using HINSENCE RGB micro led and tri colour led tv
@@riptonedwards9175 "Now idea". lol Think you mean "know idea." lol