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@Raylan Camden I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out now. Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@@michaeldavis4651 On History Channel, USA/UK have won the hundred years war, Joan of Ark was british or american but surely not french as everyone in anglosphere knows they are CESM, cowards which always surrender. :D
"What's 2+2?" WAR "Oh no, we're out of stew, could you make some more?" I'll make some WAR "This party is such a bore..." Don't worry, i'll make it a WAR
Clémenceau is also very well-known for his sharp mind. We got a lot of sayings coming from him. "War is such a serious thing, that it shouldn't be handled by the army" is one of them, although the translation is not very good
Indy, this is brilliant. I studied History in University and could never draw such an accurate portrait of Clemenceau. Congrats on another superb episode of the Great War.
Also regarding Foch and his appointment as Commander-in-Chief of the Allied armies in 1918, it is said that he was preferred over the "more cautious" Pétain (some said even defeatist) because of his perseverance and spirit at the Doullens conference. Especially because of one of his statement in front of all the other generals and deleguates : "You aren't fighting? I would fight without a break. I would fight in front of Amiens. I would fight in Amiens. I would fight behind Amiens. I would fight all the time. I would never surrender" When the time will come, it would be interesting to have a special about him too.
As usual, an outstanding video. Great dialogue, delivery, production values, and finding those historic film and pictures. Wow, you guys are amazing and proud to be a Patreon of THE GREAT WAR. I never had much interest in WW1 (though lots of interest in WW2 till you guys came along).
Hey Indy, by any chance did he yell "your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" when he was taunting the Germans on the front lines?
"Ne craignez jamais de vous faire des ennemis; si vous n'en avez pas, c'est que vous n'avez rien fait." "Don't be afraid of making enemies; if you don't have any, it is because you made nothing." Georges Clémenceau (Sorry for the bad translation^^)
Such an interesting and complex figure, flaws and paradoxes but so many forces. The way he got convinced of Alfred Dreyfus innocence and then defended him - I think, and I could be wrong, he was a journalist at that time - is highly emblematic in my humble opinion. And such a moustache! Thank you very much Indy and Baptiste
In 1919 a low-life anarchist (sorry for being redundant) tried to kill Clemenceau. Afterwards, Georges "The Tiger" commented: "We have just won the most terrible war in history, yet here is a Frenchman who misses his target 6 out of 7 times at point-blank range. Of course this fellow must be punished for the careless use of a dangerous weapon and for poor marksmanship. I suggest that he be locked up for eight years, with intensive training in a shooting gallery." What a guy!
How far into the Post-war era is this channel going to cover? I absolutely love your production, and I just realized that the story of the great war ends 11 months, 1 day from now.
Honestly, it's too bad nobody started a centennial history website or TV channel or something in 2000, it'd be neat to rehash the events of the entire 20th century week by week.
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Indy already does the Cuban Missile Crisis on another channel. See this video and the entire channel: watch?v=AKOgqsuHa28
Indeed. It happened to Churchill directly following WWII as well, he was replaced by Clement Attlee but then won the election after Attlee's term was up.
I've been reading more recent work on Gallipoli that places more responsibility for the Entente disaster there on Kitchener than on Churchill. Worth looking into.
The talent for witty phrases and the exemplar leadership in a World War drive us to an inevitable comparison with Winston Churchill. Churchill himself, in his book 'Great Contemporaries' (1937), wrote a short and complimentary biography of Clemenceau.
man those "le petit journal" illustrations always go so hard. I especially like the one depicting the miracle on the Marne. Would be cool to hang some up if someone makes them.
Sidenote: Mary Plummer Clemenceau was the grandniece of Nathan Hale. I personally met some of his descendants and even met the great-grandson of Czar Nicholas II 's doctor.
Stupid decision to stop Franchet d'Espèrey and the other allies on the oriental front whilst he was ready, willing and able to get to Germany... Also the way they negotiated the Treaty of Versailles in addition to this above-mentioned gross mistake (we should have made it clear to Germany that they had lost the war to the point of reaching and occuying their territory) was an horrible mistake we payed dearly later and even arguably to this day...
Churchill was an admirer of Clemenceau actually. He was present in 1918 when the germans launched their offensive toward Paris and Clemanenceau made this speech: "They can take Paris, it won't end the war. We will fight behind the Seine, we will fight behind the Loire, we will fight behind the Garonne, we will fight in the Pyreneans, and if they take it, we will fight at sea, but we will never surrender" Reminds you of another speech?^^
Well, they both were sassy old politicians that led the Allies to victory during the World Wars. Also, they both took power when the situation was looking quite grim for their country, but still stubbornly carried on. By the way, it's not impossible that Churchill's "We shall fight on the beaches" speech was inspired by one of Clemenceau's in front of the French parliament when the German army got extremely close to Paris in 1918.
The parallels struck me too. From power to the political wilderness, called back when his nation decided that they needed him after all, acted as his own War Minister (Defence Secretary), loses the post war election, writes his own history. Clemenceau could be Monsieur Churchill, MD. Or, rather, Churchill could be the English Clemenceau, since Clemenceau's experience predates the equivalent portion of Churchill's life.
One of Churchill's opponents referred to him as something like a stone headed rabid dog. But the stone headed rabid dog England needed. France needed a Clemenceau at the time. A nationalist who truly believed that the survival of France was on the line.
I remember the comment he made after the Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919. He said it was only a truce and Germany and France would be fighting again in 20 years.
Frank E McGillivray I believe it was Field Marshal Ferdinand Foch who said that, not Clemenceau. I could be wrong about that, so don't quote me on that.
Mike Brammer exactly, French Maréchal Ferdinand Foch said "ce n'est pas une paix, c'est un armistice de 20 ans"/"this is no peace, it is a 20 year armistice".
The topic is that Clemenceau didn't want peace with Germany. He critized the Versailles Treaty as too moderate. He didn't care that his attitude helped the far right in Germany to rise and to demand revenge.
@@rudolfkraffzick642 If he had his way, Germany would have ended like Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman empire, which I think we can agree have not been bad bois since then.
I have just stumbled onto your channel and am very impressed. I was wonder what is your motivation for doing this great undertaking? I got to ep 44 this evening and will pick it up with 45 tomorrow evening.. What got my attention was the episode you did on the somme (the third one) My grand father started his service in ww1 in that battle.. after I left the marines in 1972 we talk for many days of war.. he told me about that battle and many others he fought in until he was wounded. He passed on three years later in 1975.. he was a great man.. they don't seem to make them like him any more.. thanks for what your doing.. it reminds me of him..
Indy, I know I'm quite early, but could you in the future make an episode on the misconceptions about the Treaty of Versailles ? I read all days so much partial and biased comments on the Internet about that. Many people think it's the main cause of WW2 when the reality is so much more complex...
I was struck by the rise, fall and rise again of Clemmanu and that of Churchill in WWII. Also Indy's description of his character being just right for a war time leader but maybe not peace similar to Churchill.
He also made a similar statement to Churchill's famous "Fight on the Beaches" speech. "The Germans may take Paris, but that will not prevent me from going on with the war. We will fight on the Loire, we will fight on the Garronne, we will fight even in the Pyrenees. And if at last we are driven off the Pyrenees, we will continue the war at sea."
Meanwhile, on wikipedia, the article for the President of France for WWII, Albert Lebrun, only has a small paragraph describing what he did, starting from 1932 and ending in 1944. He comments that he was still president because there was no one left to accept his resignation.
Clemenceau was Prime Minister, not President. The President of the Third Republic had relatively little political influence and was largely a ceremonial office. And Lebrun (in WW2) had essentially been deposed by Petain in 1940; him not resigning was more a technicality.
Being American, I am unfamiliar with the power structure of the French Republic. If the Presidency was worthless why did Clemenceau make a Presidential bid? And why does the WWI President, Raymond Poincaré, have a Wikipedia article 20 times longer then Albert Lebrun?
In most democracies, the Prime Minister is the important executive post, and the President a largely ceremonial head of state (think British queen.) However, the prestige of the person and position, plus their power to dissolve governments, can give rise to influential individuals.
The Presidency did not hold much power, but was a very prestigious office, so it was not rare for very influencial politicans, such as Clemenceau and Poincaré to end their career as president. They would not hold much official power, but their influence and prestige would still allow them to have an impact on French politics. As for why Poincaré is much more remembered than Lebrun, I believe it's because Lebrun became president without having held very high positions before, unlike Poincaré who has had a long career as MP, minister and prime minister. Also, Poincaré was president during the entirety of WWI while Lebrun was deposed as soon as 1940 when the French Republic fell. An other reason might be the intense rivalry between Poincaré and Clemenceau : being the rival of someone as famous as "the Tiger", and being the target of some of his most sassy comments, is certainly a way to gain fame. "There are only two perfectly useless things in this world. One is an appendix and the other is Poincaré", Clemenceau 1919
Those Wikipedia articles might also give a hint: "The strong-willed Poincaré was the first president of the Third Republic since MacMahon in the 1870s to attempt to make that office into a site of power rather than an empty ceremonial role," as opposed to "Re-elected in 1939, largely because of his record of accommodating all political sides, he (Lebrun) exercised little power as president." And what pimsou1 wrote - Poincaré was the more important politician in general, by far.
I love that the expertise of viewer fans is utilized in the various special episodes. Indy and crew may not know it, but they are the model for future pedagogical regimens, totally democratized globally. The Great War should become a lecture bloc for university classes in 20th century European history.
His most knowned allocution was in the parlement when he was talking about general Lyautey : here's an admirable man, courageous who had balls even if not always his !! (In french : "voilà un homme admirable, courageux, qui a toujours eu des couilles aux cul ... même quand ça n'était pas les siennes")
@@princekareem6872 elle n’était pas supposé mais réelle. Lyautey n’est jamais abordé mais il a eu un rôle essentiel dans l’organisation des armées françaises en tant que ministre de la guerre.
@The Great War. Something I find interesting that I hope you cover more in depth in your regular videos is how Clemenceau's government feuded with Loyd George over replacements until the Armistice, and how under his premiership, the ideology of the Sacred Union was only used by pro war papers, and was in reality dead. Thanks for covering one of my favorite people from the war.
Great video, as usual. But I'm confused as to what the role of "Prime Minister" in the French Republic of the time actually entailed. It doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the British Prime Minister as there is also a French elected President. What it boils down to is this - where did the real power lie?
Actually, at the time of the third republic, the French Prime Minister's office is pretty comparable to the English one, while the President would be akin to the King/Queen of England: the official head of state, but little real power. What makes it confusing is that nowaday, it's very much the reverse: under the fifth republic, the President holds the real power, while the Prime Minister is a more subordinate position (most of the time - if the President and the Prime Minister happens to be from different political parties, then there's some balance between them)
This is excellent. I run these at 75% so as to absorb, the information and help me stop it in time to look at the photos. Apparently, Clemenceau was an overall positive for France, at least before the war. I was unaware of Mary Plummer his wife, and am looking her up at this time. The French Revolution and Liberalism is responsible for all of their problems, not Clemenceau as such.
A great man that held the Entente later Allies together. In spite of the myths he was somewhat lenient towards Germany , and if the terms of Versailles had been more rigourously enforced , in terms of reparations payments and from the remilitisation of the Rhineland,who knows? Inspite of both world wars Krupp , Siemens , Bosch, successors of IG Farben and Daimler Benz are still live and well . What reparations?
"One simply needs to add 'military to something to have it mean the opposite. As such, military music is not music, and military justice is not justice." - Georges Clemenceau
Great show Indy I was wondering if technology was advanced enough at this time that paratrooper tactics could be employed. Do you think you would've had any impact on the war.
Yep, on the outside, but warning of problems before the war, eventually thrust into leadership, a solid, unyielding character, then voted out post-war. The similarities are remarkable.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat No, his cousin (I think - a family member in any case), who was the French President who made Clemenceau Prime Minister in 1917.
I guess he buys into the silly narrative that the Versailles treaty was too harsh and caused WW2, and blames Clémenceau for it. Let's conveniently forget that the war reparations that Germany paid after WW1 were lower than the ones France paid after the Franco-Prussian war. The Weimar overinflation was caused by woeful mismanagement, not by an "overly harsh" Versailles treaty.
You're right, sorry. Germany did nothing wrong, and the fact that none of what happened in Germany happened in France after a much harsher peace treaty and much larger land occupation is purely coincidental. Silly me and my idiotic "you too" fallacies. Have a nice day.
Clémenceau was also very wright on many things. He knew before everyone else that Pétain was an incompetent commander and that this spirit of a "loser" would bring France to defeat. He said "we pushed Pétain to victory by buming his ass towards it" (On l'a poussé à la victoire à coups de pieds dans le cul) What he said about Pétain finally made sense in 1940 when Pétain considered the battle of France lost while there still was a chance of breaking the encirclement.
Pétain was not an incompetent commander. He was excellent in defense but too pessimistic for attack. He knew how not to lose a battle, but not how to win one - even more so, a war. You can't always have it all.
Pétain was a defensive commander. It was his doctrine. Use the right men, at the right place and the right men. In 1916 France needed urgently competent defensive officers. Petain was the man.
In fact Clemenceaus hateful attitude towards Germany laid the seed for all what happend from 1930 on. Sad but true. The right man for the war isn't necessarilly the best choise for making peace.
Debatable. Had he had his way with Germany, it would have become an inoffensive regional power (through dismantling). You could also argue that it was the USA's will to have as little sanctions as possible (believing that trade would make war impossible), becoming Germany's main trade partner before creating the 1929 crash that made it's way to Germany... is to blame.
Benoit Bvg entre la crise de 1929 et l’humiliation de 1919 (et qui s’est poursuivie longtemps après lorsque la France occupait la Rhénanie notamment) je crois sincèrement que l’humiliation a eu plus de conséquences que la crise
One of the oldest streets in Belgrade is named after him. A lot of monumets in Belgrade are dedicated to French due to their help in WW1.
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Georges, what are you making fro dinner.
I MAKE WAR
That does not sound tasty.
lol
Foreign policy I MAKE WAR
Dinner policy I MAKE WAR
This channel does history so much better than "The History Channel."
The History Channel is *Historically* wrong hehe.
To be fair though, The History Channel is all aliens, conspiracy theories, and reality shows these days. Another piece of my childhood ripped away...
@@michaeldavis4651 On History Channel, USA/UK have won the hundred years war, Joan of Ark was british or american but surely not french as everyone in anglosphere knows they are CESM, cowards which always surrender. :D
Agreed.
Whatever the question, the answer is..... I MAKE WAR.
"What's 2+2?"
WAR
"Oh no, we're out of stew, could you make some more?"
I'll make some WAR
"This party is such a bore..."
Don't worry, i'll make it a WAR
Clemenceau is the Warhammer 40k of French prime ministers; there is only war.
My friends, it has often been said that i like war...
"Sir! We're at-"
"WAR"
War, what is it goo-
WAR!
Clémenceau is also very well-known for his sharp mind. We got a lot of sayings coming from him.
"War is such a serious thing, that it shouldn't be handled by the army" is one of them, although the translation is not very good
Indy, this is brilliant. I studied History in University and could never draw such an accurate portrait of Clemenceau. Congrats on another superb episode of the Great War.
Also regarding Foch and his appointment as Commander-in-Chief of the Allied armies in 1918, it is said that he was preferred over the "more cautious" Pétain (some said even defeatist) because of his perseverance and spirit at the Doullens conference.
Especially because of one of his statement in front of all the other generals and deleguates : "You aren't fighting? I would fight without a break. I would fight in front of Amiens. I would fight in Amiens. I would fight behind Amiens. I would fight all the time. I would never surrender"
When the time will come, it would be interesting to have a special about him too.
As usual, an outstanding video. Great dialogue, delivery, production values, and finding those historic film and pictures. Wow, you guys are amazing and proud to be a Patreon of THE GREAT WAR. I never had much interest in WW1 (though lots of interest in WW2 till you guys came along).
thanks for your support
really hoping for one of these videos on Miklos Horthy
King Brunswick he will he said so
Hey Indy, by any chance did he yell "your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" when he was taunting the Germans on the front lines?
Vincent Nicosia bottom wipers
Vincent Nicosia nobody expects the French Taunting Guard!
"Ne craignez jamais de vous faire des ennemis; si vous n'en avez pas, c'est que vous n'avez rien fait."
"Don't be afraid of making enemies; if you don't have any, it is because you made nothing."
Georges Clémenceau
(Sorry for the bad translation^^)
Read his Wikiquote page. Fantastic/hilarious stuff.
(when he saw a hot French woman): "Oh-la-la, to be seventy again!"
Dieu nous a donnés 10 commandements, Willson nous a donnés 14.
In France he is considered one of the two most important political figure of the century (the other one is De Gaulle)
Mitterrand?
I love the contemporary satirical art of the subject you are talking about. They are a window to the mind of the people that lived at the time.
Such an interesting and complex figure, flaws and paradoxes but so many forces. The way he got convinced of Alfred Dreyfus innocence and then defended him - I think, and I could be wrong, he was a journalist at that time - is highly emblematic in my humble opinion. And such a moustache! Thank you very much Indy and Baptiste
In honour of Finland's 100th anniversary of independence, could you please do a special about Finland in WWI
Cocorico , le sujet sur notre Clémenceau est bien fait ✓
"A ministry's stairway is a place where people who come in late cross paths with people who leave early." - Georges Clemenceau
thanks for the great videos guys!
Do one on Mannerheim please! Love the show btw, great stuff! :)
In 1919 a low-life anarchist (sorry for being redundant) tried to kill Clemenceau. Afterwards, Georges "The Tiger" commented:
"We have just won the most terrible war in history, yet here is a Frenchman who misses his target 6 out of 7 times at point-blank range. Of course this fellow must be punished for the careless use of a dangerous weapon and for poor marksmanship. I suggest that he be locked up for eight years, with intensive training in a shooting gallery."
What a guy!
He also said shortly after being shot at something like " I was missing something; I didn't know what it felt like to be assassinated."
How far into the Post-war era is this channel going to cover?
I absolutely love your production, and I just realized that the story of the great war ends 11 months, 1 day from now.
love to see this program continue into the interwar period, record the aftermath for posterity. oh well, we have at least another year to enjoy
Vern Etzel that's difficult, because not a lot of people want 16 years of a channel that doesn't cover any major war
Honestly, it's too bad nobody started a centennial history website or TV channel or something in 2000, it'd be neat to rehash the events of the entire 20th century week by week.
Indy already does the Cuban Missile Crisis on another channel. See this video and the entire channel: watch?v=AKOgqsuHa28
Awesome video guys. You all rock!
I've been hoping for this! Thank you! You guys are amazing.
He won the war, he lost peace...
Societies have a habit of rewarding their war-leaders with the boot when the peace is won.
Indeed. It happened to Churchill directly following WWII as well, he was replaced by Clement Attlee but then won the election after Attlee's term was up.
I've been reading more recent work on Gallipoli that places more responsibility for the Entente disaster there on Kitchener than on Churchill. Worth looking into.
No the Republicans in the US congress doomed the peace when they doomed the league of nations.
I think it was more US postwar isolationism, the Great Depression, the rise of fascism, and French political disunity
I've been waiting for that episode for YEARS! I'm so happy ;_;
The talent for witty phrases and the exemplar leadership in a World War drive us to an inevitable comparison with Winston Churchill. Churchill himself, in his book 'Great Contemporaries' (1937), wrote a short and complimentary biography of Clemenceau.
man those "le petit journal" illustrations always go so hard. I especially like the one depicting the miracle on the Marne. Would be cool to hang some up if someone makes them.
looks like mr Monopoly, lol.
Probably not entirely a mistake, Monopoly came out of the first half of the 20th century.
Sidenote: Mary Plummer Clemenceau was the grandniece of Nathan Hale.
I personally met some of his descendants and even met the great-grandson of Czar Nicholas II 's doctor.
Respect 🇫🇷
Very well done ! Thanks
After WWI ends, you should make weekly episodes about WWII, this time exactly 80 years after the events happen.
Ron Lewenberg
World war 2 officially started September 3rd, 1939. The war in Asia before that had nothing global.
"We're out for war, let it be war to the DEATH!!!" Georges Clemenceau
Great episode, now I'm off on a George Clemenceau tangent.
Hey Indy, are u planning on making a special about the famine in lebanon during world war 1?
He isnt a French Churchill, Churchill is a british Clemenceau!
Clemenceau-Foch= the Dream Team
Stupid decision to stop Franchet d'Espèrey and the other allies on the oriental front whilst he was ready, willing and able to get to Germany... Also the way they negotiated the Treaty of Versailles in addition to this above-mentioned gross mistake (we should have made it clear to Germany that they had lost the war to the point of reaching and occuying their territory) was an horrible mistake we payed dearly later and even arguably to this day...
French version of Winston Churchill in World War I.
Churchill was an admirer of Clemenceau actually. He was present in 1918 when the germans launched their offensive toward Paris and Clemanenceau made this speech:
"They can take Paris, it won't end the war. We will fight behind the Seine, we will fight behind the Loire, we will fight behind the Garonne, we will fight in the Pyreneans, and if they take it, we will fight at sea, but we will never surrender"
Reminds you of another speech?^^
Do one on Sir Bernard Montgomery
probably I'm wrong but he kinda reminds me of Churchill similar style except for the mustache
Well, they both were sassy old politicians that led the Allies to victory during the World Wars. Also, they both took power when the situation was looking quite grim for their country, but still stubbornly carried on.
By the way, it's not impossible that Churchill's "We shall fight on the beaches" speech was inspired by one of Clemenceau's in front of the French parliament when the German army got extremely close to Paris in 1918.
The parallels struck me too. From power to the political wilderness, called back when his nation decided that they needed him after all, acted as his own War Minister (Defence Secretary), loses the post war election, writes his own history. Clemenceau could be Monsieur Churchill, MD. Or, rather, Churchill could be the English Clemenceau, since Clemenceau's experience predates the equivalent portion of Churchill's life.
One of Churchill's opponents referred to him as something like a stone headed rabid dog. But the stone headed rabid dog England needed. France needed a Clemenceau at the time. A nationalist who truly believed that the survival of France was on the line.
Churchill said about Clemenceau that if a single man can be the living representation of a country, then Clemenceau was France
"You must have an odd number to govern, and three is already too much" - Georges Clemenceau
Glorious video
I remember the comment he made after the Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919. He said it was only a truce and Germany and France would be fighting again in 20 years.
Frank E McGillivray I believe it was Field Marshal Ferdinand Foch who said that, not Clemenceau. I could be wrong about that, so don't quote me on that.
Mike Brammer exactly, French Maréchal Ferdinand Foch said "ce n'est pas une paix, c'est un armistice de 20 ans"/"this is no peace, it is a 20 year armistice".
The topic is that Clemenceau didn't want peace with Germany. He critized the Versailles Treaty as too moderate.
He didn't care that his attitude helped the far right in Germany to rise and to demand revenge.
@@rudolfkraffzick642 If he had his way, Germany would have ended like Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman empire, which I think we can agree have not been bad bois since then.
I make War. Badass boast.
I have just stumbled onto your channel and am very impressed. I was wonder what is your motivation for doing this great undertaking? I got to ep 44 this evening and will pick it up with 45 tomorrow evening.. What got my attention was the episode you did on the somme (the third one) My grand father started his service in ww1 in that battle.. after I left the marines in 1972 we talk for many days of war.. he told me about that battle and many others he fought in until he was wounded. He passed on three years later in 1975.. he was a great man.. they don't seem to make them like him any more.. thanks for what your doing.. it reminds me of him..
Indy, I know I'm quite early, but could you in the future make an episode on the misconceptions about the Treaty of Versailles ? I read all days so much partial and biased comments on the Internet about that. Many people think it's the main cause of WW2 when the reality is so much more complex...
I was struck by the rise, fall and rise again of Clemmanu and that of Churchill in WWII. Also Indy's description of his character being just right for a war time leader but maybe not peace similar to Churchill.
He also made a similar statement to Churchill's famous "Fight on the Beaches" speech. "The Germans may take Paris, but that will not prevent me from going on with the war. We will fight on the Loire, we will fight on the Garronne, we will fight even in the Pyrenees. And if at last we are driven off the Pyrenees, we will continue the war at sea."
@@CJ87317 22+ years before even :) ;)
Meanwhile, on wikipedia, the article for the President of France for WWII, Albert Lebrun, only has a small paragraph describing what he did, starting from 1932 and ending in 1944. He comments that he was still president because there was no one left to accept his resignation.
Clemenceau was Prime Minister, not President. The President of the Third Republic had relatively little political influence and was largely a ceremonial office. And Lebrun (in WW2) had essentially been deposed by Petain in 1940; him not resigning was more a technicality.
Being American, I am unfamiliar with the power structure of the French Republic. If the Presidency was worthless why did Clemenceau make a Presidential bid? And why does the WWI President, Raymond Poincaré, have a Wikipedia article 20 times longer then Albert Lebrun?
In most democracies, the Prime Minister is the important executive post, and the President a largely ceremonial head of state (think British queen.) However, the prestige of the person and position, plus their power to dissolve governments, can give rise to influential individuals.
The Presidency did not hold much power, but was a very prestigious office, so it was not rare for very influencial politicans, such as Clemenceau and Poincaré to end their career as president. They would not hold much official power, but their influence and prestige would still allow them to have an impact on French politics.
As for why Poincaré is much more remembered than Lebrun, I believe it's because Lebrun became president without having held very high positions before, unlike Poincaré who has had a long career as MP, minister and prime minister. Also, Poincaré was president during the entirety of WWI while Lebrun was deposed as soon as 1940 when the French Republic fell.
An other reason might be the intense rivalry between Poincaré and Clemenceau : being the rival of someone as famous as "the Tiger", and being the target of some of his most sassy comments, is certainly a way to gain fame.
"There are only two perfectly useless things in this world. One is an appendix and the other is Poincaré", Clemenceau 1919
Those Wikipedia articles might also give a hint: "The strong-willed Poincaré was the first president of the Third Republic since MacMahon in the 1870s to attempt to make that office into a site of power rather than an empty ceremonial role," as opposed to "Re-elected in 1939, largely because of his record of accommodating all political sides, he (Lebrun) exercised little power as president." And what pimsou1 wrote - Poincaré was the more important politician in general, by far.
I mainly come here for Indy´s abyssmal pronounciation of everything French... :-P
It s not too bad I’d say. I mean, did you ever listen to a French person trying to pronounce english ...
French wasn't created for foreigners :-D
Great job!
I love that the expertise of viewer fans is utilized in the various special episodes. Indy and crew may not know it, but they are the model for future pedagogical regimens, totally democratized globally. The Great War should become a lecture bloc for university classes in 20th century European history.
A lot of public history scholars pay close attention.
His most knowned allocution was in the parlement when he was talking about general Lyautey : here's an admirable man, courageous who had balls even if not always his !! (In french : "voilà un homme admirable, courageux, qui a toujours eu des couilles aux cul ... même quand ça n'était pas les siennes")
La tu es grossier!.........
SIRIUS-PETRUSSE peut-être mais Georges Clemenceau était connus pour ne pas prendre de pincettes. ... inimaginable de nos jours à l'assemblée 😉
Tinuraviel Surtout en cette infecte ère de rectitude politique !
Il faisait référence a la supposé homosexualité du Maréchal Liautey.
@@princekareem6872 elle n’était pas supposé mais réelle.
Lyautey n’est jamais abordé mais il a eu un rôle essentiel dans l’organisation des armées françaises en tant que ministre de la guerre.
Please do a episode about siam
Do one on King Zog!
@The Great War. Something I find interesting that I hope you cover more in depth in your regular videos is how Clemenceau's government feuded with Loyd George over replacements until the Armistice, and how under his premiership, the ideology of the Sacred Union was only used by pro war papers, and was in reality dead. Thanks for covering one of my favorite people from the war.
Great video, as usual. But I'm confused as to what the role of "Prime Minister" in the French Republic of the time actually entailed. It doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the British Prime Minister as there is also a French elected President. What it boils down to is this - where did the real power lie?
Actually, at the time of the third republic, the French Prime Minister's office is pretty comparable to the English one, while the President would be akin to the King/Queen of England: the official head of state, but little real power.
What makes it confusing is that nowaday, it's very much the reverse: under the fifth republic, the President holds the real power, while the Prime Minister is a more subordinate position (most of the time - if the President and the Prime Minister happens to be from different political parties, then there's some balance between them)
Clemenceau finally says: Foch You!!
Top !
Déclassé is such a fine mispronunciation for Delcassé. ( Around 13:00 )
we wanted to spice it up for you
Could you do Jan Smuts or John Monash next?
This is excellent.
I run these at 75% so as to absorb, the information and help me stop it in time to look at the photos.
Apparently, Clemenceau was an overall positive for France, at least before the war.
I was unaware of Mary Plummer his wife, and am looking her up at this time.
The French Revolution and Liberalism is responsible for all of their problems, not Clemenceau as such.
Finland episode please
Seems like you were heard!
rThere's an incredible book about the Dreyfus Affair: "An Officer and a Spy" by Robert Harris. It's a really great read and drew me into it very well.
A great man that held the Entente later Allies together. In spite of the myths he was somewhat lenient towards Germany , and if the terms of Versailles had been more rigourously enforced , in terms of reparations payments and from the remilitisation of the Rhineland,who knows? Inspite of both world wars Krupp , Siemens , Bosch, successors of IG Farben and Daimler Benz are still live and well . What reparations?
You forgot that is name lives on. As the French Navy named an Aircraft Carrier was named after him.
Not a very important mention, especially for a ww1 video
@derrickstorm6976 Ohhhh !!!.... thanks. Now you made me feel like a bag of moldy Tangerines.
The Free Man Becomes The Chained Man that is brilliant
Please make video on the India in World War 1
Rather similar in style to Churchill, unsmooth fanatic that in soem extreme situation can boost morale and keep going no matter what?
"One simply needs to add 'military to something to have it mean the opposite. As such, military music is not music, and military justice is not justice." - Georges Clemenceau
finnish special when
"Monday"
Great show
Indy I was wondering if technology was advanced enough at this time that paratrooper tactics could be employed. Do you think you would've had any impact on the war.
Doubt it.
*They would've
Anyone else getting a French Bismarck vibe?
I'd like to see a episode about Hermann Göring
In almost all aspects, Clemenceau can be considered the French Churchill.
Skyscanner HD of Doom Then the French and Moustache Churchill.
An interesting point that.
Yep, on the outside, but warning of problems before the war, eventually thrust into leadership, a solid, unyielding character, then voted out post-war. The similarities are remarkable.
Cezar-Iulian Blebea
I’m pretty sure Clemenceau didn’t willingly starved his colonies to death.
Joseph Stalin Note, Marshall Stalin, that I said "almost all aspects".
damn that speech was pretty cool.
Oui on doit beaucoup au TIGRE ! Un Grang Homme ! Un Patriote Irréductible, Sauveur de la PATRIE !
How dare they make such graphic pictures of him killing the Reichsadler.
His politics may be based one time and cringe another, but no one can deny the man was a Chad.
Can you guys do an episode about Ernst junger
No Surrender Period By G.Clemenceau
Clemenceau is my favorite wartime leader.
Moredread25 HOW DARE YOU
There are two perfectly useless things in this world. One is the appendix, and the other is Poincare.
The Latest Meme 😖 You mean one of the greatest mathematicians of recent times . . . ?
It's a quote from Clemenceau
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat No, his cousin (I think - a family member in any case), who was the French President who made Clemenceau Prime Minister in 1917.
I tough he would make a Finland episode during the hundred years of freedom day
Are you going to do Kosta Vojinović in the future?
Not enough information.
There is a lot of literature about him, but probably not so much in english.
Hello
King George V next?
I wonder there would be any Who Did What about Edmund Allenby , Erich Ludendorff , Lloyd George , John Monarch , Rosa Luxenburg etc
Woah what is that posted at 4:44
Clémenceau is my hero.
Blah b umm what are you talking about he died in 1929?
I guess he buys into the silly narrative that the Versailles treaty was too harsh and caused WW2, and blames Clémenceau for it. Let's conveniently forget that the war reparations that Germany paid after WW1 were lower than the ones France paid after the Franco-Prussian war. The Weimar overinflation was caused by woeful mismanagement, not by an "overly harsh" Versailles treaty.
Blah b I guess you can call it an eye for an eye the German treaty during the Franco Prussian war was much harsher.
You're right, sorry. Germany did nothing wrong, and the fact that none of what happened in Germany happened in France after a much harsher peace treaty and much larger land occupation is purely coincidental. Silly me and my idiotic "you too" fallacies. Have a nice day.
have you done a video on the Finnish in the great war yet?
Clémenceau was also very wright on many things.
He knew before everyone else that Pétain was an incompetent commander and that this spirit of a "loser" would bring France to defeat.
He said "we pushed Pétain to victory by buming his ass towards it" (On l'a poussé à la victoire à coups de pieds dans le cul)
What he said about Pétain finally made sense in 1940 when Pétain considered the battle of France lost while there still was a chance of breaking the encirclement.
Pétain was not an incompetent commander. He was excellent in defense but too pessimistic for attack. He knew how not to lose a battle, but not how to win one - even more so, a war. You can't always have it all.
Pétain was a defensive commander. It was his doctrine. Use the right men, at the right place and the right men. In 1916 France needed urgently competent defensive officers. Petain was the man.
Right, not Wright.
Could you take a look at Ernst Junger??
A very peculiar general once asked, "do you recall what Clemenceau said about war? He said that war is too important to be left to the generals."
Is that a real ww1 newspaper? On your desk?
nice one. how about Lloyd David George?
Henry Max 😳 You mean David Lloyd George! Welsh politician, Minister of Munitions, later Prime Minister.
Make somehing about Ferdinand of Romania
Frenchie von Bismarck
a special on miklos horthy plssssss!!!!:-):-):-):-):-)
In fact Clemenceaus hateful attitude towards Germany laid the seed for all what happend from 1930 on. Sad but true.
The right man for the war isn't necessarilly the best choise for making peace.
Debatable. Had he had his way with Germany, it would have become an inoffensive regional power (through dismantling). You could also argue that it was the USA's will to have as little sanctions as possible (believing that trade would make war impossible), becoming Germany's main trade partner before creating the 1929 crash that made it's way to Germany... is to blame.
Clemenceau was blinded by his desire of revenge over Germany...
Benoit Bvg entre la crise de 1929 et l’humiliation de 1919 (et qui s’est poursuivie longtemps après lorsque la France occupait la Rhénanie notamment) je crois sincèrement que l’humiliation a eu plus de conséquences que la crise
Là-dessus, aucun de nous ne pourra apporter de preuves...
Berg Steirer 😳 Indeed! Much the same could be said of Winston Churchill in peacetime.