I don't think the Kings are regretting the Haliburton trade right now, based on the fact that Hali would probably still be playing off the bench, when they clearly needed an All Star big.
1. Vucevic trade put Bulls on the map. Demar would have never joined them if not for Vucevic. 2. Minessota are close to .500 with KAT missing major chuck. Give them some time bro. 3. If Trey cant fit with Murray, thats his issue. He wont be able to find better backcourt partner other than Bane or Klay. 4. Sabonis and Haliburton trade may be the best all time trade for both teams
@@kitno6415 People just can't seem to accept that. As far as Tyrese being really good for the next ten years.. sure. Why can't Sabonis be as well, lol. Sabonis is a two time all star. Funny to think they got a two time all star for a guy who's never been one but this is some horrible deal. They wanted to get rid of Hield. He was a malcontent
Demar wanted to play with zach. Demar saw the effort to get lonzo, caruso and some other good role players on top of a new front office. Demar would've probably still came to chicago regardless if we got vooch or not, he's just icing on the cake, or so we thought...
@@MrE_ First of all they had a similar record last year. They're also currently on a 4 game winning streak. Another point is that they now have a higher ceiling, and all the pieces they need to make a deep playoff run, especially when KAT comes back. The wolves have struggled to put it all together, but are looking good atm.
Trading Halliburton was in no way a bad move for the kings… Sabonis is playing at an all star level and has unlocked De’Aaron to play winning basketball as well! Buddy Hield was also toxic for the team and needed to go! This is what you call a winning trade for pacers and kings not a loss for anyone at all…
Yes it was a great trade for both teams overall. There was a reason they were traded. They all unlocked there potential such as fox and sabonis and Tyrese and Buddy. If not for the trade for the kings, they would’ve probably still be a stagnant team and perhaps not be playoff contenders.
the kings trade was a good trade for both teams. the kings want to go to the playoffs and the best timeline for them is with sabonis because of age and experience, with tyrese it probably take more time. both great players, hope to se them both in the all star game
@@alphajdvgaming1867 That makes zero sense. “Let’s trade our best player and destroy our future because we haven’t found a taker for our second best player yet.”
@@bonanimathambo8721 they’ve always wanted to build around Fox. His numbers had dipped playing with Hali as they were both ball dominant guards. They at first chose they wanted to rebuild with Hali as the star and shop Fox. However since his numbers dipped they couldn’t find anyone to take Fox. They shopped Hali instead and got Sabonis who is playing amazing for Sac. A mini Jokic. People act like the Kings completely lost three years down the road but Fox is 25 and Sabonis is 26. They have just as much of a window and have set themselves up to win now. They are the best offense in the league up there with the Celtics and are firmly in the place hung and one of the more dangerous teams in the West this year. While Hali also has upside and he’s definitely and all star the pacers will need to put the right players around him. The Packers are having a decent season but they will need to resign Turner and maybe sign another star to pair with Hali unless they want to wait on Mathurin to develop even more into the second option. Buddy Hield as your second option is not going to work, just ask the Kings. The trade was also to get rid of Buddy’s massively overpaid contract that’s truly what the deal was about was dumping that contract and the pacers were looking rebuild so they sent the Kings a two time all star. This narrative that the kings only have 3 good years is a joke. 1) some of the good teams in the west from last year are falling apart (Suns, Warriors, Lakers, Clippers) just look at the standings. The Kings have a solid 5-6 years to get this right. A lot more than people think. Both teams won this trade. I believe when he retires Hali will be one of the top 5 greatest point guards of all time if it goes right. I believe the Kings are super underrated since they’ve been losing for so long but this trade put them back in the fold and they should get their respect and recognition as much as Hali does.
KD for Scottie was never on the table and it's stupid to pretend otherwise. He's not making a lot of money so at best you're including Trent and Fred plus one of your bench players to make the money work and more likely than not the Nets are asking for OG too. That's not a contender, that's just a team which will be on a treadmill for the next 3-4 years.
How is this about the Knicks? They've been managing there picks, developing their players and not making stupid trades for the past 5 years. This video is about the Bulls, Hawks and Wolves.
The Mavs one isn't really true. JB was the one who denied the $55 million extension and he was already planning to head to New York in free agency (his dad was already part of the Knicks front office at that point). So nothing realistically the Mavs could've to bring Brunson back.
i hate that discourse abt trading scottie for KD. Raptors would of had to give up more than scottie and our depth is already awful. The trade could never be scottie for KD straight up.
I think the Hawks are a great team. Not yet a championship caliber team, but when healthy, they are a playoff team. Murray and Trae play well together, they fit. I believe they just need time to build a strong chemistry.
YES!!! Not to mention the regular lineup had hardly played together cause of injuries! Hunter and capela keep missing lots of time and that REALLY hurts the hawks’ rebounding and defense.
I agree my kings played them the other night and even though Sabonis was beating up on the kid I thought the guy played pretty well all things considered
Hawks biggest problem is Nate and the health of its important defenders…they need to make moves that better fit the team and duo and i think it would help a lot
Hawks biggest problem is thinking they got the next Steph Curry in Trae Young, lol spoiler! Young isn’t an off ball threat AT ALL like Curry is, and Young’s stubbornness isn’t making things better. #shiphimoutifyallwantachip
@@Grievous_ only idiots thought he would be the next Steph… the Hawks took him because he lead the nation in scoring and is a elite playmaker unlike Curry actually you could win a title with Trae but its hard to surround a point guard with the right team…golden state is a perfect example because even when they won 73 games they lost to a dominant two way player forward…its about personal not the best player…best player just has to show he can lead a team deep which Trae has done with good shooting and defense around him
Exactly. People don’t even mention that the Hawks have been plagued with injuries all season and the coach is mid at best. It’s just right to blaming Trae and granted, he hasn’t played the best but he will NOT get traded 😂 whoever believes that isn’t thinking much.
7:56 oh trust me, as a kings fan I was happy to see hield gone, it’s tough to see Hali go, but sabonis is crazy and it’s hard to take that away, also trading Hali boosted foxes numbers. Overall I view it as a win win. I’ve heard pacers fans say it. I hear kings fans say it.
Kings fan so I'm biased of course. Sabonis is a two time all star. How many has Tyrese made? Sabonis leads the ENTIRE league in rebounding along with being the best passing big man not named Jokic and averaging over 19 ppg. Buddy Hield made it very clear he didn't want to be there, was a malcontent. They'll probably end up trading him away.
AM HOOPS!!! I love the way you format your videos. You tie in other topics that relate but finish the current point which leads to your next. Simple, but engaging!! 👍
Thing is, Markannen and Carter would have not developed in Bulls like they have after leaving. Reason is Zach LaVine. Look Pat Williams now, some trajectory with Carter and Markannen. In rookie season 9,6 ppg and solid defense. now he is even regress from that. But, if Pat get out Bulls, he will become all-star in three seasons! People who are calling him bust, clearly don't watch Bulls games, i can tell that!
It's unbelievable but the Kings' trade was good for both. They have a similar problem as the 76ers a few years ago - too much talent in one position. The kings finally look like a playoff team. Now they are 4th in the West. Probably not sustainable but I predict 6th place which is a good kickoff for the future. They can also upset teams like Pelicans in PO, or win 2-3 games in a series. Looks good Kings!
Why you gotta get on my Wolves like that?! Like, is ten assets for one REALLY that bad? The biggest problem with this trade is the lack of flexibility it brings. Beasley had two years left on a relatively cheap deal, Vanderbilt was cheap, Pat Bev was relatively cheap. Not we got 2 very expensive centers, an expensive PG, and about to have an expensive SG and SF. Poor Wolves...literally
Sac Kings fan here that lives in Sac. Nobody here regrets the Hali trade. Fox and Hali were not a good fit. Sabonis and Fox together make our team a top 6 team which means playoffs. We haven’t been in the playoffs for 16 years. 16 YEARS! Kings didn’t lose that trade.
The only bad take here... is the Kings-Pacers Trade, where he claims the Kings completely lost.... i dissagree, that's one of those Win-Win Trade in my Book
I disagree with the raptors take. They wouldn’t be in contention if they had KD. The trade package would’ve been Scottie, Og, Trent and like 3 unprotected first. That makes the raptors extremely top heavy with no depth or any money or picks to get any depth.
Stories like this are always a little skewed. Part of the reason some players blow up after being trading is specifically bc they are on a new team. New coaching, new role, new system. If they stayed where they were, they might not have ever improved
Are you serious? The kings by no means lost as they are the 5th seed with two possible all stars. Tyrese is good yeah but sabonis has been playing at an all nba level and the kings got rid of hields awful contract. The trade also allowed them to get huerter which is so huge for what the kings were trying to do. You clearly don’t know basketball
The Bulls messed up badly and Minnesota made a win now move and it made them worse and got rid of players who might be better than Gobert in Kessler. Their GM needs to be fired
you tripping if the kings had tyrese still he would be averaging 17 and 7 because he wouldn't be the only one with the ball in his hands. you can't trade Fox because no 1 is taking that contract on for a non all star. Sabonis has played like an all star and he is going to sign an extension with the kings. so what are the kings missing out on bruh yours takes are nonsensical and you dont think things thru enough. Sabonis is giving you scoring as much as Haliburton and he is giving you almost the same amount of assist if you consider usage rates. Sabonis is one of the leaders in the league in rebounds. The kings have shooting because i know that's what you'll say the Kings are missing out of in Haliburton, but Sabonis is actually shooting better from 3 points then Haliburton (not as many attempts but still). We weren't winning with Halburton and now we are mainly because of Monte McNair. I'll take Fox over haliburton all day(Fox is leader in clutch points).....only thing that does suck about losing him is his contract. Everyone says it was a win win trade except you because I know how much you hate the Kings because you are a Lakers lover.
TELL HIM!!! Gotta love how "All Star" is super impressive one minute and "participation trophy" the next... Tell people Sab is 2x All Star? Meh, just a big Then they brag "FVV is an All Star, Jared Allen is an All Star" SABONIS IS AN ALL STAR PF/C Period point blank!!! FFS, D'Lo and Devin Harris were All Stars...
Don’t listen to him Kings Fans😂 real hoop fans know Tyrese would take longer to bloom if he stayed in SAC. The backcourt of Fox And Tyrese wouldn’t be bad but unless De’aaron left he was never gonna be good this early plus he benefits from playing with Turner and those other role players. The Kings are in the postseason standings rn while the pacers are still in potential play in bracket. The Kings need playoff basketball to end their drought and don’t have time to build around Haliburton. They made the right choice
Derozan (33) and Levine (injury, inconsistency, defense) should be traded not built around. This isn’t even close to Tatum and Brown; Curry $ Klay; Giannis & Middleton; AD & LBJ; Duncan Parker Ginobli; Nowitzki et al; Kobe & Shaq.
Your wrong about the Hawks, just like BEFORE. I'm the same guy who told you that the Hawks were good two yrs ago. Right now, the bad fit is John Collins, NOT DM.
The Kings and Pacers trade would have only been bad if they didn't make other moves to strengthen the roster. Right now they're a top-5 seed in the west and Indiana is at least a play-in team, when they're supposed to be rebuilding. Don't see how this is regrettable, unless you wished they kept Tyrese and traded Fox instead.
Love you videos man. But you are dead wrong about the kings. Sabonis is a have a all star season. Controlling the whole offense , and averaging basically 20-14-7. That’s ridiculous bro.
As a Kings Fan I initially hated the Sabonis trade since I didn’t think the fit would work and would bring results + Haliburton is just such a good player. The only issue with Haliburton was the roster. Fox, Haliburton and Barnes were basically doing it all until Fox got injured that season. Even with Haliburton averaging over 20 point double doubles, they weren’t winning. Bagley never had and still hasn’t panned out and the rest of the roster needed change. You could say it was all the coaching and if they held out and waited to get Mike Brown it would’ve worked out but I think it was a great trade for both teams. Haliburton has only gotten better and it’s great to see but the Kings with Fox and Sabonis have done well and both franchises have a good future with their rosters.
It's crazy how shortsighted teams are, and how much they've flip flopped on their stance regarding picks. Remember when Paul George got traded to OKC for just Victor Oladipo and a sophomore Domantas Sabonis and zero picks, only to be traded to the clippers a couple years later for sophomore SGA and like 7 picks. It's like these teams just forget what the market should be, and just go based off trends of what the rest of the league is doing. Smart teams are squeezing picks out of these dumber organizations just because they've artificially inflated the value of players and deflated the value of picks.
Strongly disagree about the Kings regretting trading Haliburton. The team is in a much better place than they have been in the past 16 years. We're currently 4th in the western conference standings and have a big man that's a walking triple double. Fox is playing out of his mind because Haliburton and him didn't fit together. Buddy Heild and Haliburton were major defensive liabilities. I'm happy that they are doing well in Indy though but trust me the kings don't regret the trade.... win win trade
Agree with you on every point except one. Barnes for KD. If you watched Raptors games often you would see why he appears to be struggling (besides two bad ankles), and he is still turning it around. That was an easy decision for the Raptors.
Dejounta Murray is going back to SAS when he hit free agency lmao. Trae + Murray was always a terrible idea because both thrive with the ball. If you take it away from the other then you're misusing them and wasting their potential. Let's be real and say the truth. The Hawks are at lot better with Murray as their lead guard. Trade Trae for pieces to retool this Hawk roster and that's it. The Pacers - King trade was a win-win trade
The Rudy Gobert trade might be the worst trade in NBA history, making Danny Ainge the greatest trader of all times... This is really insane that he was behind both of the Nets and the Twolves trades
I think it's too early to say the Kings "regret" trading away Haliburton. Kings ultimately made a win now move, and it has greatly benefitted their team in the current moment. Just because the Pacers got the better player and better value, doesn't mean the Kings "lost", considering both teams have improved since making the move.
Look at this video. A Trade isn't just for one year. It's permanent. In five years, the Kings will wish they had Haliburton. But for now, their expectations have been so low that just making the playoffs is seen as a win. Never mind that making the playoffs with no hope of winning the Championship is the worst place to be. Oh well, if Kings fans are happy, that's what's important. But it doesn't change that it was an objectively bad trade as measured by value. Bulls fans were happy to get Vucevic, especially since they feel it let them sign Derozan. But now how do they feel? :D
@@shorewallKings chose Fox over Haliburton, both have been playing great this season and Fox has proven people wrong. I don’t think Haliburton and Fox together would’ve worked, and anyways the Kings were able to get rid of Buddy Heild which is an overlooked part of the trade.
@@darrengordon-hill Most teams aren't the Sacramento Kings. In five years, when you are getting bounced in the playoffs every year, or trying to make the Play-In, and Haliburton is making All Star Teams for another team, the new reality will set in. Winning Championships is great. Losing in the Playoffs isn't. It's not my fault that the Kings have been a terribly run organization. It's just something that Kings fans gotta live with, and take the fleeting happiness where they can.
The the raptors are a team that can draft well but will absolutely never attract any free agent because they’re far north and outside of the states too. The only way they can viably have a chance at rings is through trades and anything else is just denial
Kings trade was fine. They had to decide if they wanted to try to contend with DeAron or build around Tyrese. DeAron is loyal to the Kings which not many players would be with his talent. They got a good enough bench, Buddy Hield can shoot, and Sabonis is a good fit. Both teams won that trade
As a Raptors fan, I definitely would rather keep Scottie for KD... we'd have to give up our ENTIRE future for KD, and we probably wouldn't even win a championship.
you know for a fact that Vucevic's trade was done to convince Lavine to stay. and Vucevic is also the reason why Derozan signed with the bulls. so your point is quite invalid i guess
Time is what will already tell who won. Imagine 5 years into the future. Kings ain't gonna win a chip with Sabonis. Kings fans might be happy to make the playoffs after 15 years, but they mortgaged their future to do it. Then again, they drafted Bagley instead of Luka, so they ain't winning nothing. The organization is bad, and has been bad. Making the Playoffs don't change that. At least it will give the Kings fans something to cheer for.
@@shorewall Pacers aren’t winning with haliburton either. At least not yet. You are everywhere hating on the kings trade, saying Hali is better than fox, and that they will regret it in the future. As people are saying, only time will tell. Additionally, fox would for surely be an all star as well if he was in the east, the west is loaded with guards currently so it’s tough for fox. Finally, sabonis has been excellent for the kings as well so it is really a win win.
I'm a big fan of KD but trading him in Toronto for Barnes is hard' specially in Barnes performance last season... also the contract and drama behind KD? if KD is like a guy with no issue about social media and everything .. maybe there's a lot offer for the Nets🤷🏻♂️
The Rudy Gobert trade definitely messed up the trade market. We'd definitely would've seen more trades by now but nobody wants to look stupid like Minnesota..
Brooklyn trade with Celtics would be a lame plan even if they got the chip! Which they didn't :) They could be the new face of the league (dynasty-wise) if they stuck to their picks and up-and-coming players and didn't try to get all the old faces in the league. Now too. They had a thing going with LaVert and D-Lo and co. They threw that away to get a big 3 again. They are not learning dude.
Bad take on the Kings. Both teams got what they needed and Haliburton and Fox are flourishing as the key guard. Buddy wanted out of SAC and Sabonis has been a double double machine in Mike Brown's system
Based on rumors about Trey's locker room stuff, if he gets traded, the best thing for him is to be traded to a team with an established number one who won't take shit from Trey.
I love Hali, But sabonas is a superstar he is 90% the joker. Please don't compare Hali to sabonas. And like I said hali will all star. great trade for both friendships. Regarding hill, We give him for free With good reason.
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I don't think the Kings are regretting the Haliburton trade right now, based on the fact that Hali would probably still be playing off the bench, when they clearly needed an All Star big.
Hali could be MVP and yall mfs would still be coping
IT WAS A WIN WIN TRADE
@@KXK_11 lmao hell no
@@alexanderkolodey8747why is it not thought I’m a casual
They should have traded Fox for Sabonis, I'm sure the Pacers would have agreed to it
1. Vucevic trade put Bulls on the map. Demar would have never joined them if not for Vucevic.
2. Minessota are close to .500 with KAT missing major chuck. Give them some time bro.
3. If Trey cant fit with Murray, thats his issue. He wont be able to find better backcourt partner other than Bane or Klay.
4. Sabonis and Haliburton trade may be the best all time trade for both teams
Yea idk what this guy talkin bout lmao things werent going good for tyrese in sacramento. That trade was a win for both sides for sure
@@kitno6415 People just can't seem to accept that. As far as Tyrese being really good for the next ten years.. sure. Why can't Sabonis be as well, lol. Sabonis is a two time all star. Funny to think they got a two time all star for a guy who's never been one but this is some horrible deal. They wanted to get rid of Hield. He was a malcontent
Demar wanted to play with zach. Demar saw the effort to get lonzo, caruso and some other good role players on top of a new front office. Demar would've probably still came to chicago regardless if we got vooch or not, he's just icing on the cake, or so we thought...
Twolves are worse this year than last year. That trade sucked. Now they'll need to trade kat and dlo
@@MrE_ First of all they had a similar record last year. They're also currently on a 4 game winning streak. Another point is that they now have a higher ceiling, and all the pieces they need to make a deep playoff run, especially when KAT comes back. The wolves have struggled to put it all together, but are looking good atm.
Trading Halliburton was in no way a bad move for the kings… Sabonis is playing at an all star level and has unlocked De’Aaron to play winning basketball as well! Buddy Hield was also toxic for the team and needed to go! This is what you call a winning trade for pacers and kings not a loss for anyone at all…
Yes it was a great trade for both teams overall. There was a reason they were traded. They all unlocked there potential such as fox and sabonis and Tyrese and Buddy. If not for the trade for the kings, they would’ve probably still be a stagnant team and perhaps not be playoff contenders.
Tyrese has such amazing potential and I love sabonis but that type of move I would see good if they were wanting to win now which they aren't.
Yea sometimes there is no loser in a trade. They both got what they needed
Anyone defending that trade is just as stupid as Divac (picking Bagley over Luka).
You can’t win anything with a big who can’t defend. He puts up good stats but the team is going nowhere.
the kings trade was a good trade for both teams. the kings want to go to the playoffs and the best timeline for them is with sabonis because of age and experience, with tyrese it probably take more time. both great players, hope to se them both in the all star game
At the very least, they should’ve moved Fox instead. Halliburton is younger, better, cheaper and plays winning basketball.
@@bonanimathambo8721 they tried. Fox’s stock was low at the time. Haliburton was the best option to trade
@@alphajdvgaming1867 That makes zero sense. “Let’s trade our best player and destroy our future because we haven’t found a taker for our second best player yet.”
@@bonanimathambo8721 they’ve always wanted to build around Fox. His numbers had dipped playing with Hali as they were both ball dominant guards. They at first chose they wanted to rebuild with Hali as the star and shop Fox. However since his numbers dipped they couldn’t find anyone to take Fox. They shopped Hali instead and got Sabonis who is playing amazing for Sac. A mini Jokic. People act like the Kings completely lost three years down the road but Fox is 25 and Sabonis is 26. They have just as much of a window and have set themselves up to win now. They are the best offense in the league up there with the Celtics and are firmly in the place hung and one of the more dangerous teams in the West this year. While Hali also has upside and he’s definitely and all star the pacers will need to put the right players around him. The Packers are having a decent season but they will need to resign Turner and maybe sign another star to pair with Hali unless they want to wait on Mathurin to develop even more into the second option. Buddy Hield as your second option is not going to work, just ask the Kings. The trade was also to get rid of Buddy’s massively overpaid contract that’s truly what the deal was about was dumping that contract and the pacers were looking rebuild so they sent the Kings a two time all star. This narrative that the kings only have 3 good years is a joke. 1) some of the good teams in the west from last year are falling apart (Suns, Warriors, Lakers, Clippers) just look at the standings. The Kings have a solid 5-6 years to get this right. A lot more than people think. Both teams won this trade. I believe when he retires Hali will be one of the top 5 greatest point guards of all time if it goes right. I believe the Kings are super underrated since they’ve been losing for so long but this trade put them back in the fold and they should get their respect and recognition as much as Hali does.
@@alphajdvgaming1867 has. I, 0=
KD for Scottie was never on the table and it's stupid to pretend otherwise. He's not making a lot of money so at best you're including Trent and Fred plus one of your bench players to make the money work and more likely than not the Nets are asking for OG too.
That's not a contender, that's just a team which will be on a treadmill for the next 3-4 years.
Exactly that’s I what I keep saying
If we were gonna get kd it’s a win now if not he’d be worst for us
At this point the Knicks just making random moves. L franchise
been poverty since they lost the finals last century
They been a L.
How is this about the Knicks? They've been managing there picks, developing their players and not making stupid trades for the past 5 years. This video is about the Bulls, Hawks and Wolves.
Knicks are actually decent this year
@@Kamariojarvisfax bro
The Mavs one isn't really true. JB was the one who denied the $55 million extension and he was already planning to head to New York in free agency (his dad was already part of the Knicks front office at that point). So nothing realistically the Mavs could've to bring Brunson back.
$55 million??? And New York gave him $130 million ?? I would have left to they drafted him with Luka and didn't want to pay him?
i hate that discourse abt trading scottie for KD. Raptors would of had to give up more than scottie and our depth is already awful. The trade could never be scottie for KD straight up.
greg popavich with wemby and players like brown and tatum would be unstopable
On to something
Kings franchise are weak for not committing to Halliburton
i also had a feeling that the Minnesota Timberwolves were gonna be on this list too, typical of them and this franchise has been just ridiculous
I was so excited to see the great future of the twolves as a bulls fan then gobert happened... yall traded for the wrong jazz...
I think the Hawks are a great team. Not yet a championship caliber team, but when healthy, they are a playoff team. Murray and Trae play well together, they fit. I believe they just need time to build a strong chemistry.
I’m glad someone knows 🫡
YES!!! Not to mention the regular lineup had hardly played together cause of injuries! Hunter and capela keep missing lots of time and that REALLY hurts the hawks’ rebounding and defense.
Lol cmon. They aren’t doing shit. They are a 5-6 seed at best
Walker Kessler is looking really good in the minutes he is getting.
I agree my kings played them the other night and even though Sabonis was beating up on the kid I thought the guy played pretty well all things considered
Hawks biggest problem is Nate and the health of its important defenders…they need to make moves that better fit the team and duo and i think it would help a lot
Hawks biggest problem is thinking they got the next Steph Curry in Trae Young, lol spoiler! Young isn’t an off ball threat AT ALL like Curry is, and Young’s stubbornness isn’t making things better. #shiphimoutifyallwantachip
@@Grievous_ only idiots thought he would be the next Steph…
the Hawks took him because he lead the nation in scoring and is a elite playmaker unlike Curry actually
you could win a title with Trae but its hard to surround a point guard with the right team…golden state is a perfect example because even when they won 73 games they lost to a dominant two way player forward…its about personal not the best player…best player just has to show he can lead a team deep which Trae has done with good shooting and defense around him
No, the Problem is your team is and will always be garbage.
@@youarebait9609 don’t see how a troll would watch AM hoops but then again children don’t have youtube limitations
Exactly. People don’t even mention that the Hawks have been plagued with injuries all season and the coach is mid at best. It’s just right to blaming Trae and granted, he hasn’t played the best but he will NOT get traded 😂 whoever believes that isn’t thinking much.
Being a T wolves fan is such a hard job man. Its like we can never get a win, its tragic.
try being a Kings fan for 35 years
Same with the NY teams. All the failing sports team have a problem at the top. Terrible leaders.
@@ScottySkilz1 atleast the Kings is looking like they will snap their long playoff drought
Spurs straight finessed the Hawks
7:56 oh trust me, as a kings fan I was happy to see hield gone, it’s tough to see Hali go, but sabonis is crazy and it’s hard to take that away, also trading Hali boosted foxes numbers. Overall I view it as a win win. I’ve heard pacers fans say it. I hear kings fans say it.
Looking forward to Atlanta’s future picks. Thanks Atlanta 🤝
Could be wemby
I'm so glad A.M makes videos, you always keep me updated with the NBA, so thank you.
Kings fan so I'm biased of course. Sabonis is a two time all star. How many has Tyrese made? Sabonis leads the ENTIRE league in rebounding along with being the best passing big man not named Jokic and averaging over 19 ppg. Buddy Hield made it very clear he didn't want to be there, was a malcontent. They'll probably end up trading him away.
F foreign bigs, up US guards
maybe you think I'm just inhaling too much copium
but as a wolves fan, I think even if the wolves keep the pick, they won't draft someone good
That's how I feel about the Kings. Bad organizations can't win for losing.
LonZo ball got injured. They were on top when he was playing
AM HOOPS!!! I love the way you format your videos. You tie in other topics that relate but finish the current point which leads to your next. Simple, but engaging!! 👍
I'm an Orlando fan. Trading Vooch was dumb being an Orlando fan. Nothing surprises me anymore
Thing is, Markannen and Carter would have not developed in Bulls like they have after leaving. Reason is Zach LaVine. Look Pat Williams now, some trajectory with Carter and Markannen. In rookie season 9,6 ppg and solid defense. now he is even regress from that. But, if Pat get out Bulls, he will become all-star in three seasons! People who are calling him bust, clearly don't watch Bulls games, i can tell that!
You are sooooo good in making those links to other of your videos... I really admire that! Congrats bro!
First round picks have become more valuable than before. Teams are stocking picks for a trancendant player for the future.
It's unbelievable but the Kings' trade was good for both. They have a similar problem as the 76ers a few years ago - too much talent in one position. The kings finally look like a playoff team. Now they are 4th in the West. Probably not sustainable but I predict 6th place which is a good kickoff for the future. They can also upset teams like Pelicans in PO, or win 2-3 games in a series. Looks good Kings!
Probably still a play-in team
those two prizepicks you chose were the ones I was eyeing today too
The Bulls front office is incompetent? You don't say......
Why you gotta get on my Wolves like that?! Like, is ten assets for one REALLY that bad? The biggest problem with this trade is the lack of flexibility it brings. Beasley had two years left on a relatively cheap deal, Vanderbilt was cheap, Pat Bev was relatively cheap. Not we got 2 very expensive centers, an expensive PG, and about to have an expensive SG and SF. Poor Wolves...literally
I'm a raptors fan and I still wouldn't trade Scottie for KD even today. I don't think the raptors regret that decision at all
Except that kd on that team is a champion 🏆
Sac Kings fan here that lives in Sac. Nobody here regrets the Hali trade. Fox and Hali were not a good fit. Sabonis and Fox together make our team a top 6 team which means playoffs. We haven’t been in the playoffs for 16 years. 16 YEARS! Kings didn’t lose that trade.
BUT THE PACERS GOT BUDDY HIELD!!!!
As a spurs fan , hopefully we get wembanyama next year and collect all those hawks lottery picks in a few years
If the Wolves end up losing KAT and keeping Gobert, obtaining Gobertwill officially be known as the worst trade of all time
The only bad take here... is the Kings-Pacers Trade, where he claims the Kings completely lost.... i dissagree, that's one of those Win-Win Trade in my Book
The kings already have a point guard and what was send kd to the raptors really going to do
I disagree with the raptors take. They wouldn’t be in contention if they had KD. The trade package would’ve been Scottie, Og, Trent and like 3 unprotected first. That makes the raptors extremely top heavy with no depth or any money or picks to get any depth.
Stories like this are always a little skewed. Part of the reason some players blow up after being trading is specifically bc they are on a new team. New coaching, new role, new system. If they stayed where they were, they might not have ever improved
KD trade was tempting but I'm glad the Raptors didn't trade away their rookie of the year.
Are you serious? The kings by no means lost as they are the 5th seed with two possible all stars. Tyrese is good yeah but sabonis has been playing at an all nba level and the kings got rid of hields awful contract. The trade also allowed them to get huerter which is so huge for what the kings were trying to do. You clearly don’t know basketball
what are youre thoughts on how the nets will go w/o kd for the month or so
The wolves had the assets to potentially get both jerami grant and dejounte Murray a signifant defensive upgrade. The gobert trade is disgusting
The Bulls messed up badly and Minnesota made a win now move and it made them worse and got rid of players who might be better than Gobert in Kessler. Their GM needs to be fired
I feel like the Wolves should have seen the Embiid+Horford experiment and been like, “nah”.
you tripping if the kings had tyrese still he would be averaging 17 and 7 because he wouldn't be the only one with the ball in his hands. you can't trade Fox because no 1 is taking that contract on for a non all star. Sabonis has played like an all star and he is going to sign an extension with the kings. so what are the kings missing out on bruh yours takes are nonsensical and you dont think things thru enough. Sabonis is giving you scoring as much as Haliburton and he is giving you almost the same amount of assist if you consider usage rates. Sabonis is one of the leaders in the league in rebounds. The kings have shooting because i know that's what you'll say the Kings are missing out of in Haliburton, but Sabonis is actually shooting better from 3 points then Haliburton (not as many attempts but still). We weren't winning with Halburton and now we are mainly because of Monte McNair. I'll take Fox over haliburton all day(Fox is leader in clutch points).....only thing that does suck about losing him is his contract. Everyone says it was a win win trade except you because I know how much you hate the Kings because you are a Lakers lover.
TELL HIM!!!
Gotta love how "All Star" is super impressive one minute and "participation trophy" the next...
Tell people Sab is 2x All Star?
Meh, just a big
Then they brag "FVV is an All Star, Jared Allen is an All Star"
SABONIS IS AN ALL STAR PF/C
Period point blank!!!
FFS, D'Lo and Devin Harris were All Stars...
Don’t listen to him Kings Fans😂 real hoop fans know Tyrese would take longer to bloom if he stayed in SAC. The backcourt of Fox And Tyrese wouldn’t be bad but unless De’aaron left he was never gonna be good this early plus he benefits from playing with Turner and those other role players. The Kings are in the postseason standings rn while the pacers are still in potential play in bracket. The Kings need playoff basketball to end their drought and don’t have time to build around Haliburton. They made the right choice
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Derozan (33) and Levine (injury, inconsistency, defense) should be traded not built around.
This isn’t even close to
Tatum and Brown; Curry $ Klay; Giannis & Middleton; AD & LBJ; Duncan Parker Ginobli; Nowitzki et al; Kobe & Shaq.
Your wrong about the Hawks, just like BEFORE. I'm the same guy who told you that the Hawks were good two yrs ago. Right now, the bad fit is John Collins, NOT DM.
The Kings and Pacers trade would have only been bad if they didn't make other moves to strengthen the roster. Right now they're a top-5 seed in the west and Indiana is at least a play-in team, when they're supposed to be rebuilding. Don't see how this is regrettable, unless you wished they kept Tyrese and traded Fox instead.
I haven't heard one Raptor fan with regrets about not trading Scottie for KD. Not one. No clue where you're getting that from.
Ahh watching the hawks be bad feels good.
Lmao dude you mad jinxed KPJ and Haliburton! Both injured before half time! Oh man!
Love you videos man. But you are dead wrong about the kings. Sabonis is a have a all star season. Controlling the whole offense , and averaging basically 20-14-7. That’s ridiculous bro.
As a Kings Fan I initially hated the Sabonis trade since I didn’t think the fit would work and would bring results + Haliburton is just such a good player. The only issue with Haliburton was the roster. Fox, Haliburton and Barnes were basically doing it all until Fox got injured that season. Even with Haliburton averaging over 20 point double doubles, they weren’t winning. Bagley never had and still hasn’t panned out and the rest of the roster needed change. You could say it was all the coaching and if they held out and waited to get Mike Brown it would’ve worked out but I think it was a great trade for both teams. Haliburton has only gotten better and it’s great to see but the Kings with Fox and Sabonis have done well and both franchises have a good future with their rosters.
I wonder how it would look if Timberwolves and Bulls exchange their centers or Wolves vs Suns exchange as Ayton already doesnt wanna be there.
I hope teams actually make trades n not BS
It's crazy how shortsighted teams are, and how much they've flip flopped on their stance regarding picks. Remember when Paul George got traded to OKC for just Victor Oladipo and a sophomore Domantas Sabonis and zero picks, only to be traded to the clippers a couple years later for sophomore SGA and like 7 picks. It's like these teams just forget what the market should be, and just go based off trends of what the rest of the league is doing. Smart teams are squeezing picks out of these dumber organizations just because they've artificially inflated the value of players and deflated the value of picks.
What's the trade package for KD on Barnes trade? KD without Siakam or OG is a waste. He would demand trade and the got nothing.
ALL STAR STARTER TYREESE??? what is this man on
I kept waiting on who the Bulls were gonna get to save their franchise and it never happened lol..?
Strongly disagree about the Kings regretting trading Haliburton. The team is in a much better place than they have been in the past 16 years. We're currently 4th in the western conference standings and have a big man that's a walking triple double. Fox is playing out of his mind because Haliburton and him didn't fit together. Buddy Heild and Haliburton were major defensive liabilities. I'm happy that they are doing well in Indy though but trust me the kings don't regret the trade.... win win trade
Agree with you on every point except one. Barnes for KD. If you watched Raptors games often you would see why he appears to be struggling (besides two bad ankles), and he is still turning it around. That was an easy decision for the Raptors.
Markennen and Kessler can be a scary duo in the future. reminds me of Kat and Gobert experiment but I hope it works if the Jazz stick with them.
They're already working better than KAT and Gobert. :D
Theyre a scary duo right now. Lauri is an All-star and Kessler is very well playing just as good if not better than gobert and hes a rookie lol
Jazz with like 14 first round picks. wtf
always a good day/afternoon when A.M. Hoops posts for sure
Fox is going to be all star …. It was a win win. Fox can play his way.
I think you can't see what the GM's can see in Rudy
Dejounta Murray is going back to SAS when he hit free agency lmao.
Trae + Murray was always a terrible idea because both thrive with the ball. If you take it away from the other then you're misusing them and wasting their potential. Let's be real and say the truth. The Hawks are at lot better with Murray as their lead guard. Trade Trae for pieces to retool this Hawk roster and that's it.
The Pacers - King trade was a win-win trade
The Rudy Gobert trade might be the worst trade in NBA history, making Danny Ainge the greatest trader of all times... This is really insane that he was behind both of the Nets and the Twolves trades
Timberwolves need pure PG pass first like Dejounte Murray 🔥🔥🔥
The Raptors don't want KD simply because of the drama he brings, he could very well ask for a trade mid-season
I think it's too early to say the Kings "regret" trading away Haliburton. Kings ultimately made a win now move, and it has greatly benefitted their team in the current moment. Just because the Pacers got the better player and better value, doesn't mean the Kings "lost", considering both teams have improved since making the move.
Look at this video. A Trade isn't just for one year. It's permanent. In five years, the Kings will wish they had Haliburton. But for now, their expectations have been so low that just making the playoffs is seen as a win. Never mind that making the playoffs with no hope of winning the Championship is the worst place to be.
Oh well, if Kings fans are happy, that's what's important. But it doesn't change that it was an objectively bad trade as measured by value. Bulls fans were happy to get Vucevic, especially since they feel it let them sign Derozan. But now how do they feel? :D
@@shorewallKings chose Fox over Haliburton, both have been playing great this season and Fox has proven people wrong. I don’t think Haliburton and Fox together would’ve worked, and anyways the Kings were able to get rid of Buddy Heild which is an overlooked part of the trade.
@@shorewall
Re read it...
Lemme get this straight... making the Playoffs is WORSE than 16 straight seasons without a postseason appearance???
@@frniuu2061 I don't think they chose Fox over Haliburton. Haliburton had more value, netting them Sabonis. What would Fox have brought back?
@@darrengordon-hill Most teams aren't the Sacramento Kings. In five years, when you are getting bounced in the playoffs every year, or trying to make the Play-In, and Haliburton is making All Star Teams for another team, the new reality will set in. Winning Championships is great. Losing in the Playoffs isn't.
It's not my fault that the Kings have been a terribly run organization. It's just something that Kings fans gotta live with, and take the fleeting happiness where they can.
Jaylen Brown doesn't seem like a HoF member to me yet.
Again and against so much hate snd disrespect to Sabonis
The the raptors are a team that can draft well but will absolutely never attract any free agent because they’re far north and outside of the states too. The only way they can viably have a chance at rings is through trades and anything else is just denial
Kings trade was fine. They had to decide if they wanted to try to contend with DeAron or build around Tyrese. DeAron is loyal to the Kings which not many players would be with his talent. They got a good enough bench, Buddy Hield can shoot, and Sabonis is a good fit. Both teams won that trade
As a Raptors fan, I definitely would rather keep Scottie for KD... we'd have to give up our ENTIRE future for KD, and we probably wouldn't even win a championship.
you know for a fact that Vucevic's trade was done to convince Lavine to stay. and Vucevic is also the reason why Derozan signed with the bulls. so your point is quite invalid i guess
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You are wrong about KD. there is no regrets for Toronto. I would still rather have Scottie Barnes with so much upside than a softie injured prone KD
The Tyrese Haliburton trade is one where only time can tell who won
Time is what will already tell who won. Imagine 5 years into the future. Kings ain't gonna win a chip with Sabonis. Kings fans might be happy to make the playoffs after 15 years, but they mortgaged their future to do it.
Then again, they drafted Bagley instead of Luka, so they ain't winning nothing. The organization is bad, and has been bad. Making the Playoffs don't change that. At least it will give the Kings fans something to cheer for.
@@shorewall Pacers aren’t winning with haliburton either. At least not yet. You are everywhere hating on the kings trade, saying Hali is better than fox, and that they will regret it in the future. As people are saying, only time will tell. Additionally, fox would for surely be an all star as well if he was in the east, the west is loaded with guards currently so it’s tough for fox. Finally, sabonis has been excellent for the kings as well so it is really a win win.
I'm a big fan of KD but trading him in Toronto for Barnes is hard' specially in Barnes performance last season... also the contract and drama behind KD? if KD is like a guy with no issue about social media and everything .. maybe there's a lot offer for the Nets🤷🏻♂️
Lets see… KD is 34 can leave in 2 years and barnes will sign the rookie max for 5…. Hmmm what the hell?
Jayson Tatum and jaylen brown wouldn't have swept KD lol. Kinda crazy to think of them both nets.
The Rudy Gobert trade definitely messed up the trade market. We'd definitely would've seen more trades by now but nobody wants to look stupid like Minnesota..
Timnerwolves messed up big time!
How is the Raptors Regret not trading for KD? I find it more of signing Otto Potter. He's out for the rest of the season and has played 8 games total
What a waste of a MLE
@@repulse_ that's exactly my point
Brooklyn trade with Celtics would be a lame plan even if they got the chip! Which they didn't :) They could be the new face of the league (dynasty-wise) if they stuck to their picks and up-and-coming players and didn't try to get all the old faces in the league. Now too. They had a thing going with LaVert and D-Lo and co. They threw that away to get a big 3 again. They are not learning dude.
Wolves just got blown out by the worst team in the league
Bad take on the Kings. Both teams got what they needed and Haliburton and Fox are flourishing as the key guard. Buddy wanted out of SAC and Sabonis has been a double double machine in Mike Brown's system
Based on rumors about Trey's locker room stuff, if he gets traded, the best thing for him is to be traded to a team with an established number one who won't take shit from Trey.
Trae needs to work out with Steph in the off season & learn to play off the ball. Add more movement to the Hawks offense.
The Wolves don't want to say it out loud, but it's obvious they're getting ready to trade KAT.
So far the kings and pacers Got Both Ws in their recent trade
Yeah gonna be a crazy trade deadline
It's a bit early to say Tatam and Brown will be hall of famers dude
I agree the wolves have up too much for gobert
I love Hali, But sabonas is a superstar he is 90% the joker. Please don't compare Hali to sabonas.
And like I said hali will all star.
great trade for both friendships.
Regarding hill, We give him for free With good reason.