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  • Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
  • Patreon: / danielhiteshew
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    Here's the first of 2 videos about over filtering our aquarium. In this video we'll discuss mechanical filtration. Part 2 will be about biofiltraion.

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  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 4 года назад +8

    I agree over filtration is better. I know when I volunteered that the New England Aquarium the over filtered by 500% They used a sand filtration where water was forced up through sand to trap organics and the sand gave a place for the beneficial bacteria a place to grow, with the water aerated before it was forced up through the sand to ensure the beneficial bacteria were well oxygenated to do their work and prevent dead spots that might build up methane and sulfurdioxide gas pockets. Now there were cleaning ocean water right from Boston Harbor back when it was at its most polluted in the 70s-90s for their main Giant Ocean Tank. A tank that holds 200,000-US-gallon (760,000 l), and also included a giant penguin tank, 4 tiers of 75 foot long rows of 250 - 1000 gallon tanks and one row of fresh water tanks of the same length and size as the other tiers. Water incoming from the Harbor would take 12 hours to cycle through their system and go into their storage tanks in the basement and then get pumped into all their tanks with over flow, and then get refiltered before being released back into boston Harbor all cleaned of heavy metals and other toxic substance including biological disease. They were one of the first Aquariums in the world to instal UV sterilization on both incoming and out going water to their system. Oh and they had a dozen 2,000 gallon stacks of their original sand filters. The whole system works 24-7, 365 year in and year out.

    • @ethansexotics616
      @ethansexotics616 4 года назад

      I live in New Hampshire and that aquarium is my childhood. Probably what got me into fish to begin with. I've always thought about volunteering there. The cylindrical tank is so amazing. Nice to hear some behind the scenes from someone who volunteered there.

  • @KeyMacGamingKeyz
    @KeyMacGamingKeyz 4 года назад +5

    I got an FX6 on a 55 gallon with nearly 6 kilos of biohome ultimate inside it... Water is perfect 👍

    • @KeyMacGamingKeyz
      @KeyMacGamingKeyz 4 года назад +2

      @@sailyui the filter used to be on my 125 but it leaked and was old so I scrapped the tank and got a 55 for now and all readings have been pretty much zero since March.

  • @medwardbell
    @medwardbell 4 года назад +1

    Very insightful. Hadn’t thought about it staying in the system. This is why I watch your videos

  • @jamiemckie
    @jamiemckie 4 года назад +1

    Great video, well explained.

  • @davidsamsell2031
    @davidsamsell2031 4 года назад +2

    "Dirt under the carpet" is a good analogy, Dan. The dirt is still in the system, now just concentrated in one area; ones filter. 😷
    From the many RUclips videos I watch from many people, their general consensus is to WAY, WAY over filter. Am not in agreement with that philosophy, but rather ascribe to your comments in this video.
    IMHO, I will almost double filter. My Aqueon 55 gallon has an Aqua Clear 110 on it and seems to be a pretty good match for a medium stocked tank yielding good 'mechanical filtration ' and circulation.
    I do use fine polishing pads as well. Good indicators if you slightly overfeed. 😋
    Great video and topic. 👍 😁. Thanks....

  • @seove1
    @seove1 4 года назад +5

    I'm crazy about water flow. It has eliminated multiple problems that I used to experience.

  • @bfgbfg6515
    @bfgbfg6515 4 года назад +1

    In a canister filter setup , imo , using the filter pad or filter wool in a pre filter is ideal in that the mechanical filtration can be maintained monthly by swapping out the used filter pad/filter wool with new one and leave the biological media undisturbed . The crux of the filtration system is to leave the biological filtration alone and preventing fish waste and decaying matter from reaching the biological media by the use of the pre filter .

  • @BaltimoreAndOhioRR
    @BaltimoreAndOhioRR 4 года назад +1

    You've gotten really good at this 😁✔👍👍👍

  • @toguro5117
    @toguro5117 4 года назад +4

    The only mechanical filatration i run is my pre filter sponges lol

  • @easttnoutdoors9336
    @easttnoutdoors9336 4 года назад +1

    i used to run a custom filtration setup on my old 30 gallon tank, the power head was rated to 600gph but i set it about halfway so around 300gph i guess

  • @itsfish8672
    @itsfish8672 4 года назад +2

    dan i understand what your saying but now u got me thinking

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад +1

      That's the point of my videos!

    • @mrgrump2534
      @mrgrump2534 4 года назад

      No disrespect and I’m pretty sure that you know this but sponges are still biological filtration so the more mechanical filtration you’re putting in the more biological you’re also putting in as well right ? because beneficial bacteria grows on sponge ,rock ,gravel and anything else in the Aquarium

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      @@mrgrump2534 Except by the time it grows, it gets thrown out. That's why we change the mechanical filter, while leaving the biological one alone.

  • @ThePondLife
    @ThePondLife 4 года назад +1

    I think your right, But i think if you change your filter mats then its fine. Its when you think its better and you let the tank go for to long, then its really bad as the bioload would be stocking up.

  • @brettpacker2779
    @brettpacker2779 4 года назад +1

    keep your substrate clean

  • @zafishguy5166
    @zafishguy5166 4 года назад +2

    In freshwater yes in saltwater it depends when my nitrates hit 0 its tough for corals to do well...

  • @JDSAquaticExperience
    @JDSAquaticExperience 4 года назад +1

    I love the water fall man

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      I found another small leak tonight, but it was in the plumbing, not the waterfall itself this time.

    • @JDSAquaticExperience
      @JDSAquaticExperience 4 года назад +1

      Good did you make that yourself or did you buy it

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      @@JDSAquaticExperience I made it. It's not very well built, but I';ve had a lot of fun with it.

    • @JDSAquaticExperience
      @JDSAquaticExperience 4 года назад

      @@DanHiteshew-oneandonly well it looks great from my point of view

    • @JDSAquaticExperience
      @JDSAquaticExperience 4 года назад +1

      On another note ... dude you have so many subs now a few months ago when I started watchin I think you were in the lower thousands I could be wrong but good work man

  • @WilliamSmith-dg5re
    @WilliamSmith-dg5re 4 года назад

    It's all about gallons per hour. In a goldfish tank, you need the water to go into your media to get rid of all the ammonia. Just keep the water clean and cycled through your media as many times in a hour as you can. It's all about GPH.

  • @caleazacatechichi
    @caleazacatechichi 4 года назад +2

    Dan, can you recommend a algae wafer for my plecos? The omega one brand i have DISSOLVES to quick!!! I need 1 that will hold up for the longest time possible without clouding the water and going into the substrate quickly....

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      I use Hikari Algae Wafers. I buy them by the kilo. They do everything you just asked for and fish love them.
      amzn.to/36su65j

  • @caleazacatechichi
    @caleazacatechichi 4 года назад +1

    Dan we nees the new video 2night! I want to know what you have to say about biological filtration!

  • @VIDEOHEREBOB
    @VIDEOHEREBOB 4 года назад +2

    Can we really over filter the water? Can we define over mechanical filtration as just more pads or floss? I'm not sure.

  • @markhaunert5029
    @markhaunert5029 4 года назад +1

    Hey Dan,at first i didn't think I was going to agree with you on this one. I am a admitted over stocker and raise water picky fish 'discus' so I've gotten into over filtration so to speak. But as i watched the vid. I realized i have gradually switched to a more biological system. Not to get into your vids to come.🤗. Quickly what i mean is i have 3 canisters on 1 medium sized tank. BUT instead of all 3 having the classic media, 2 large one's in back are devoted to only lava rock and bio balls. Only the small one up front has mechanical filtration. Which i can change easily. So it turns out i am actually doing what you are talking about. Thanks

  • @alans4281
    @alans4281 4 года назад +1

    I have a question. How long do you think mulm continues to make ammonia and then nitrates . I feel I can test this for myself by keeping a bucket of the worst mulm and old tank water running for a few weeks with an air stone and cycled sponge filter. I am not disagreeing with you just for the hell of it . I am keen to understand why Matter filters are not cleaned often but are so popular. My tanks are bare bottom and I remove all mulm that I can as often as I can . Currently anyway.

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      I'm not sure but I've wondered that myself. The problem is that new mulm is always being produced, so even if "old" stuff isn't decomposing anymore, there will always be "fresh" mulm breaking down. I'm sure it builds up faster than it breaks down.

  • @aquariumiconoclast1613
    @aquariumiconoclast1613 4 года назад +1

    Finally, someone gets it. Mechanical filtration just makes the tank look pretty by hiding the solid waste in the filter. It's still in the same body of water decomposing and diminishing water quality. It might even happen faster in a filter than if it was just sitting on the bottom of the tank. That's why I don't think collecting 3-6 months of waste in a canister filter is a good idea.

    • @LitBoy420
      @LitBoy420 4 года назад

      I'd be so nervous letting my canister go for 3-6 months. I let it go for 2 when I first set it up to try and not disturb bacteria (as I already had a HoB + seeded material in the canister) and it was fine, but I always feel like I have to get in there and clear the floss because it can get so brown.

  • @fisharefriends598
    @fisharefriends598 4 года назад +2

    Biological is key. 1 litre volume min biological per 100 litre

  • @chad5862
    @chad5862 4 года назад +1

    How often do you do water changes?

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      It depends on the tank. Some get water changes every few weeks. Some go a few months.

  • @BarrySuridge
    @BarrySuridge 4 года назад +1

    I dislike HoBs intensely and have a love of canister (and internal) filters. For my 200-litre I have a canister filter, a sponge filter (medium size as its sole role is to provide a grazing surface for my shrimp and fry) plus a Ziss. I wouldn't call it over filtered unless you include biological filtration, which could be construed as over done I guess (?). 🙂

  • @mariusvalentin7109
    @mariusvalentin7109 2 года назад +1

    Bottom crawlers 8 buc
    35 fish whit average 4 cm lenght
    20 gallon tank
    Filtration 1 sponge filter medium size
    External filter 400 gallon/h full of bio media ceramic rings bio balld and in front of it on the intake a pre-fillter whit 4 grade sponge filter.
    Is this good for my tank? Thanks

  • @views4rmthasix596
    @views4rmthasix596 4 года назад

    How do you "Over Filtrate?" Unless the filter output is moving the water too fast, putting 10gals of water through a 20 gallon, 40 gallon or 200 gallon filter is all the same.

  • @wtfmrb293
    @wtfmrb293 4 года назад +1

    And by the way. Changing water and rinsing out the filter, at the same time is perhaps to much. Heads up

  • @steelviper1
    @steelviper1 4 года назад +1

    Keep the muck or detritus off your biological material. The reason you would use different size or different course filter pads.

  • @VyvienneEaux
    @VyvienneEaux 4 года назад +5

    Your water looks like crap, because it is liquidized crap. I'd much rather have dirt under my carpet than perpetually blown around by a fan. Mechanical filtration doesn't just provide a cosmetic benefit. Trapping debris keeps the water column cleaner, and helps prevent extremely common mycobacterium infections. As the debris sits in the filter, it is a great food source for a variety of microbes, including bacteria involved in the nitrogen cycle and a diverse array of other bacteria that get to work decomposing other substances found in the aquarium. Additionally, 50-micron polishing filters can trap a variety of pathogenic organisms hitching rides on the debris.
    While flow is generally a good thing, too much flow and not enough mechanical filtration can kick up debris, preventing it from settling into the substrate. On this debris is various mycobacterium species, which is actually a ubiquitous class of soil bacterium. According to Diana Walstad, mycobacterium infections cause most otherwise mysterious fish deaths.
    Usually, an aquarium is supposed to be a thing of beauty. Not only does your lackadaisical filtration look bad, but it has a chance at doing worse than no good.

    • @shonsyaquariumfishtanks
      @shonsyaquariumfishtanks 3 года назад

      I agree, this wather looking too bad, you are missing mechanical filtration

  • @MikeV607
    @MikeV607 4 года назад +2

    A while back I was on a FB fish forum where a fella proudly displayed his 55g tank with three (3) large Sunsun canister filters underneath!!! Now that's over filtration!!! I started a firestorm when I suggested he didn't need that much - lol
    (Better if he just had one and serviced it frequently). I hear (er see written) a lot: "there's no such thing as too much filtration" - just plain wrong.

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      Lol I only use one (plus a powerhead) on my 125s.

    • @MrDanAng1
      @MrDanAng1 4 года назад +2

      If we talk about the Sunsun HW-3000, they have a minimal flow of 1200L/h, or nearly 320 gph, so the MINIMAL flow in that 55 gallon tank was 960 gph!
      Overfiltration might not really be a thing, as long as it is a lot of biological media, but there can surely be a too strong flow!
      They cirkulate the tank more than 17 times per hour!
      Minimum!
      Their max capacity is 3000 L/h (over 790 gph) PER FILTER. 2370 gph! 43 times the water in the tank per hour!
      Unless the fishes in the tank is from a fast flowing river, this is WAY fast circulation, the fish will never be able to rest.

  • @wtfmrb293
    @wtfmrb293 4 года назад +1

    Ohoi fish hippies

  • @agualust
    @agualust 4 года назад +1

    hi ammonia, nitrite and nitrates in a no fish tank after a year mystery solved... expired test kit!!!

  • @wtfmrb293
    @wtfmrb293 4 года назад +1

    I’m of the opinion that, over filtration does nothing for you. If you set up your tank correctly. Other than set u back a few bucks.

  • @larryjackson3145
    @larryjackson3145 4 года назад

    Wouldn't extra mechanical (sponges) host bacteria and act as a biological filter? Don't both biological media and mechanical sponges do the same thing in a canister and both can get clogged and dirty? When you say overfilter, I thought you were going to be talking about more surface area than needed for aquarium filtration... not which media is better. I think that no matter what media you use, whether it be sponge or rocks or even pot scrubbies, if you overfilter and use twice as much as needed to filter your tank, it shouldn't be a problem...

  • @5wisher5weet
    @5wisher5weet 4 года назад +1

    Mechanical filtration is....filtration, filtering the tanks water. Calling the biological a “filtration” is a bit misleading. Maybe we need to rethink the terminology

  • @5wisher5weet
    @5wisher5weet 4 года назад +1

    Mechanical filtration is....filtration, filtering the tanks water. Calling the biological a “filtration” is a bit misleading. Maybe we need to rethink the terminology

    • @DanHiteshew-oneandonly
      @DanHiteshew-oneandonly  4 года назад

      fil·ter
      verb
      pass (a liquid, gas, light, or sound) through a device to remove unwanted material.